my seat, and in her role as a leader of friends of animal care and control, she developed contacts with rescues and animal organization and animals throughout the bay area. and she has the issues facing dogs and cats and all of the animals that they handle, and the rats and bunny and all kinds of wild life. and she loves animals and knows, what is happening with all of the animals in san francisco. she also knows that helping animals often means that helping people deal with issues such as homelessness and domestic abuse and drug addiction and things like that. this friends of interests, and knowledge and experience is very unusual, and makes her uniquely qualified applicant and she would be a terrific addition for the commission. and i also want to thank you for your support last year to increase the budget and staffing of animal care and control and i hope that you can continue to do that. in this year's budget issues and going forward.

and obviously if the others have mentioned a issue of a new building for acc is crucially important. >> thank you also for giving me the chance to serve you the board and the people in san francisco on the commission for the past eight years and finally, to point out that mine and the public that ac, and the commission does not have direct oversight of acc. we actually advise you guys the board and the acc is under the administrative branch and you are legislative however the issues arise, thank you for the opportunity to serve and support jane, thank you. >> thank you. and i appreciate the reminder at the end of your testimony. any other member? >> seeing none, we will close public comment. >> and supervisor cohen. >> thank you. >> through the chair would i like to ask all of the applicants for this item to

just come up forward i have a quick question and i if it occurred to me during the last public testimony that i should have asked and i just want to ask everyone and one sentence question. i know, please forgive me. and you can go first. just don't be nervous, it is simple. i want to hear your thoughts and the question is when it ever appropriate to put down an animal? >> well, that is a complicated issue by the time that decision is made i hope that you understand that all options have been explored, and exhausted. i would not want to be in the shoes of the person that has to make that decision, because from the outside looking in --. >> time out. this is not going to work, --. >> okay. >> i just want to know with your personal policy is. >> a lot of people applying to the position and everyone is qualified on paper, i am

looking for diversity and depth, when is it appropriate to put an animal. >> if the public is at risk, their safety is a big concern. >> okay. >> my name is jane. >> okay. >> i would like to go to a point where there is a sanctuary out there for every animal to live the life how she should to the end on their own terms. >> thank you. >> hi, my name is maria, and i would say that you know it is supposed to be in an animal is in extreme suffering, so relief for that animal. so that would be my reason for end and or if the animal is so dangerous and all options were exhausted and no other resource to take that animal, having volunteered for give me cat

risk no kill, would i say that we would do an option and behavior cats have other options. >> it is only for suffering and only --. >> the next speaker. >> bunny. >> hi, i'm bunny rossen beger. >> i think that it is appropriate when a dog is a danger to society, has behavior issues or a quality of life concern for that animal. >> thank you. >> i also believe in euthanize, and believe in the suffering and interfears with the quality of life from that animal and so suffering, and also the dangerous to the point that animal cannot be placed safely in a sanctuary setting. >> thank you. >> just want to make clear that is this is my view and not the view of the san francisco spa.

i believe that she should be euthanized when they were not treatable and they are a risk to public safety or they are suffering themselves. that is the law. and personally, this is going to be controversial in this room. i also recognize that there are limited resources and we are addressing and the welfare concerns in this state. and i think that the concerns for animal should be benefited balanced with the limited resources that we have. so sometimes you know, if we are balancing 5,000 to treat one animal and that $5,000 can be used to treat one animal verses whatever. >> brandy. >> okay. >> hello. >> if you are talking vicious, dangerous animals i don't think that they shut be euthanized and i think that there are alternative and shelters and i know of many of them if you are talking about personal, animals it is about a quality of life

issue. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> i don't know, if it was helpful. >> i may have confused myself even more. >> but thank you colleagues for allowing me that. >> yeah. >> any other comments? >> no. >> well, thank you. and thank you for answering that and i never seen that done before in a committee. but i would say that this is really difficult because i see so much passion and knowledge from all of you, again i wish that if we had the opportunity i would actually appoint all of you to this commission. for me i first want to thanks stevens and i was surprised to see that she was not reapplying and sthes incredible work and worked alongside her. and some of the other current city commissioners on many issues, including the animals entertainment performance band. and i know that for example, miss lang is for the here and

we worked with coming up with a resolution with the state wide (inaudible) ban and i do want to thank all of the applicants and i am sorry that we can't appoint all of you, but i am confident that if you are not able to take a seat on this commission, i know that you are going to continue to do the work that you continue to support our animal and there is no doubt about that. on a personal level, i have a lot of experience going to the acc facility, when our family was looking for a dog we went there for four months, during every single weekend and also to that bca and take our dogs to there as well for the vet care, and so our office has been a huge advocates for the new facility and we have every year have hosted the kittens and try to adopt out more animal and so we are a pet friendly office and i am so glad to hear that many of the applicants here today brought up the issue of the pet friendly housing and we are

trying to research how we can do that in san francisco, and we hit a lot of road blocks and whoever is appointed love to continue our work together on that very important topic as well as others. >> so, that brings us to the decision we have four seats, and again, like i said i would support any one of you can on here today, i would say that i would be interested in having all of the applicants who are up for reappointment, and be able to remain in their positions that is lang three, tenofsky for four and, johnson for six. and so that leaves, one other seat. >> okay, thank you. >> seat five. and very torn, i worked closely with jane and the friends at acc and seeing the amazing work that they have been able to do because of the lack of resources the friends has been a critical arm in component

partner. but again, every single person i do like what miss kuentzel brought too, through her work which i know is a new position because she is passionate about her work there. and so again, i would be okay with any one of them filling up that last seat. >> i really appreciate your stepping out on the limb first, to talk about who would be on the commission. and i was interested in sense they are very short two year terms that to me, is not enough time to really you know make your mark and to have a real good experience. over all on the commission. so i want to support the reappointment for the three as you mentioned. and i am in the same boat around everyone who is an applicant. your passion, your experience, your work has been well noted

here. and it is very difficult to decide, who, would be the best or the right person to serve. and i did, and i was impressed with everyone and i think that i could actually go along with miss tobin and that is really our recommendation for miss stevens would has served on the commission for a long time and that she is actually voluntarily stepping off which i know is a difficult for anyone to do and so, to me that gives a lot of weight to the decision. and i say that in apologizing too because i think that everyone else's reply has been and has shown the really incredible commitment to the animals in the city, and so that is kind of where i land. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. chair. >> and so good afternoon, everyone, and i am very pleased to see so many people willing to step up and give voice and

advocate on behalf of our friends, our furry little friends, i am going to have to defer to the recommendation of supervisor tang she is the one on the board that has interacted with the most of the furry con stit you entcy in san francisco and seriously she has puppy and kittens in her office and as you can imagine this can be a stressful job. my aid has a dog that comes in on occasion, and she is really cute. but supervisor tang has developed a partnership and so there are rare moments where i am unable to make-up my mind. and i always have an pen to something. and thank you for entertaining my last question, because i was looking for a way or a method to help me identify some distinguishing characteristics

between the applicants and it sounded like there was some slight nuanced opinions on when it is actually acceptable. i personally don't have a policy. i never even thought about it until sitting in this rules committee. and to tell you the truth, animal control and welfare does not necessarily boil up in the issues that i deal with representing the south east of san francisco. which is also interesting because in my first year i did work with some neighbors on fer elcats in the industrial parts of the bay view, so, to miss montoya thank you for your work and we have the problems. and down there in the visitation valley. >> but i am going to support in seat 3 and 4 and also brings the diversity being the only man who knew that that would

actually count, but it does in this particular case. but so congratulations for being the diversity. and so i am going to support, dr. i don't know son in seat number 6, which leaves five and i am going to have to support supervisor tang's position and yield to her and my apologies to the rest of the and i wish that i had more time and i am going to move that we support jane tobin for seat number five. >> okay, and that i am not sure if you experienced that as a motion or if you want to second. >> i second that motion. >> and i want to thank everyone and i hope that there is another opportunity that comes up for each of you and again, regardless of if you serve on the commission or not, we would love to xont working with all of you and just thank you for what you do, and speak up for like i have said, the we need the people to speak up for the animals who can't speak for themselves thank you.

>> motion from supervisor cohen and seconded by supervisor tang and we can take that without objection and, so i want to thank everyone for coming here and sitting through this and you are out for the commission. >> and we will take that without objection. >> madam clerk, do we have any other items before us. >> that concludes the business for the day. >> thank you for your service and we are adjourned. >> thank you.

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