we know how the dis displacement is impacting the city i think the new homeless versus the chronic homelessness do we have numbers open the homeless people requesting shelters or various services. >> not sure we have this data specifically but what we have is the report open the homeless count we start in january of 2015 that not only has a e nutrition of folks that asked those questions how long were you homeless homeless in san francisco are you a veteran all that rich demographic information we need, however, that we need in order to taylor the internals but as you said

what is the daytime and the eviction and the high rental costs that result of that and this bye product of that we don't know with that but in a few months. >> it only tracks within the boundaries of san francisco but my guess the families that some have been living in in their cars or bigger vehicles at time and if they can't stay in the city pushed to other surrounding areas all the way to ann intoxicate where is that information the impacts and the push back to further areas of the bay area. >> that's aloof data i don't know if we can practicing track if folks are not there the night of the count or the survey within thirty days if their

vehicle lae last yearly housed it was noted how many people were in vehicles but in terms of the mitigation out it is hard to track the day on someone that goes from county to county we know for example 40 percent of 39 single adults recorded in 2013 person homeless somewhere else than san francisco we are placing 7 or 8 out of families outside of san francisco by in terms of homeless in services and leaving to another county is difficult to engage. >> i want to say the announcement from this morning thanks to supervisor farrell for holding the hearings over the past year the supportive housing and different models those commence is really i think good

bank for the buck in addressing the issues of hoping people get on their feet i have another point do we track the ages that age range of homeless people i know that when we talk about poverty in the city 1/3rd of the children in the city are in poverty 2 hundred percent of the poverty level the overall population is seminars we'll see with baby boomers like myself angling rapidly the numbers of people and probably homeless seniors i'm wondering how jefferson h s a is addressing that how are we addressing the elderly boom and the elderly poverty boom it is going on for the next 20 over and over thirty

years i believe the elderly will be 1/3rd of the total city populations and good chunk will be in poverty or homeless as well. >> sherene is here better equipped to answer that question i'll asking answer that on a robust community level from in home community services that is the corner stone the providing care with seniors in homes but all the other you'll hear about it whether nutrition or transportation or senior centers and maintaining the ability for seniors to remain in their community and homes and the more care that is dignified that's the framework for guiding everything we're doing around seniors if you are talking talk

about seniors in the shelters it is the same intervention not thinking about where what institution we're placing that senior in but what are the options for affordable housing option for the seniors in shelters and a i had a sidebar with olsen lee sort of the needs and the families and seniors one the biggest needs is growth is seminars we'll continue to focus on senior housing is critical and on the services side to cue up did seniors out of shelters into affordable housing is incredible and the partnering with mow is critical. >> the reason i'm raising this yesterday as many seniors and people that disabilities and tenant rally id to talk about the need for eviction protection

a 73-year-old being evicted with disabilities she'd 12k5b8gd but i'm sense this is we're seeing more people with disabilities and seniors pushed into homelessness that's why i'm asking about seniors no poverty during the daytime process. >> uh-huh. >> thank you. >> schooe. >> thank you chair hi my question around family housing - homeless families and it is great you were able to get funding from the state and service to the homeless families and some additional hours i'm occurs i guess i'm not getting a since of what is the magnitude of the issue here of families in

terms of homeless families. >> what would be some - what do we need to fix it h s a approach we look at data that is different from the school district for example we've seen reports over 3 thousand kids in the school district are homeless the definition that they use is much different from what we and hud uses the federal housing development many kids are under housed and sro's and conditions that are unstable we're that looking at lacking a night time addresses that's what hud uses right now our waiting list is hundred and 50 families a waiting list for shelter down

from 270 or 280 about a year ago one factor is opening up a priority for public housing for homeless families one is a significant investment by the board and the mayor in rental subsidies not just the $2 million in state subsidies but several million dollars in need based and short-term rentals rapid housing for cherts and services eviction preservation not only prevents homelessness but prevents homelessness from eviction and preventing that union from going to market rate that is about affordable housing preservation we have money in housing - we have you don't see

families on the street within the homeless count i think maybe 70 or 80 families are on the street or in their car the reasons behind the research has shown it is really about income than other things you see mijz and addiction generally i'm generally listing it is about income that suggests the poverty deals with income so the increasing abatement and getting trained what we are looking at what the subsidize programs not yet but we want to get to a place where families shouldn't be in line for shelters families should be in line for subsidies we want to get with a waiting

list of zero to urge families from shelters and put them into a housing model and the coupled with the housing training and the other things to get that family up and anti of poverty the approach that really the nation is taking many jurisdictions have gone to the zero family approach and redirecting to money towards housing and looking at housing is a short term housing not hundred or 80 days in shelters not good for kids or families. >> so approximately did you say hundred. >> it is about i said about hundred and 50 it is about hundred and 48. >> looking at our numbers that will- if we were to let's see another $5 million for families

housing that seems to be the number you'll need to take care of. >> so of the absolute numbers that sound like it is right the subsidies it is tied to market rate housing and what unfortunately, we've had to do is make that decision is it better to have a family homeless in san francisco or houses in other county waiting for a unit we can acquire without the rents medium rents $34,000 if a family can move to another county with better rent we're still providing those services and support that's what our nonprofits are forced to do. >> you probably said it the $2 million for the 6 of homeless families. >> it is actually we've housed 66 families with less than

$2 million we have several million dollars we have allocated to how's house 2 more families. >> those families are housed elsewhere. >> yes. the last numbers were 70 to percent. >> and that's recorded from the - >> it really is a new it calls for a new strategy around the support programs give us an example the way that the cal works works if families move to another county other than san francisco that services is to be transferred we have a robust cal works program with earlier education that provides subsidies for the children and two to another county their kids

could be in school we have to reorient cal works to get up e keep that intact it is a challenge one we're committed to a family might move to alameda county or oakland if they're in a subsidized job we'll pay for the transportation they'll be consulting in but really is it is a change in the way we're approaching our services and with our nonprofit partners the hampton families are up in oakland to better provide supports for families. >> maybe this is probably more a question for office of housing do you see structural changes we can make with the revisions other than the middle-income.

>> well, i'll defer to mr. olsen. >> there are changes that need to be made at the state level transferring a case out we need a more reasonable approach to the assistance programs all of a sudden the family goes to another county didn't make sense we need to examine can we reorient our system towards a regional approach with a regional transportation promissory note program not a regional heirs system of safety nets so that's my - >> just one more pious and i'll move on but the jobs that the subsidized jobs our talking about and many of them may get

permanent eliminates plummets are those in san francisco. >> yes. almost exclusively. >> we fix the housing. >> we talked about the regional approach we're restricted to use the dollars in san francisco why wouldn't he explore the regional county like alameda county. >> supervisor if i could since you were doling out the tuesdays i want to thank joyce and scott for stepping up on the navigation center and have come online they deserve a lot of recognize. >> thanks. >> good afternoon supervisor farrell and committee members i'm with the department of aging and adult services i want to

highlight a few areas we have 4 areas in the amp and adult services within the division i want to highlight where we're lo the risk of seniors and folks at risk of homeless or living in poverty the first i guess our corner stone program the in home service program we serve over hundred and 22 thousand people in 9 program i'm sure you're aware of the program is really the home care non-medical program that helps people stay at home we've kind of seen the small and instead growth a few years ago we saw a lot of growth but it is slowed down and we're seeing e seeing about 4 thousand applications per year currently 73 percent of the clients that

were 65 or older and 40 percent live alone and in addition to that we have 19 thousand who have independent provider and 62 percent of those are relative caregivers their children serving their parents 42 percent of the index h s are chinese 9th and 37 of all our h s a clients speak cantonese one of the things we're able to do partly because of the growth and changes within the program we're looking to go beyond the general ascertainment that our social workers do to make the ascertainment of hours we're starting to look at things that are important to help at risk people dementia and looking at

dementia screening and the others we're starting to do an initial depression screening the i h s social workers are the first line of defense with people that have dementia and we have a small unit that goes out to see if people need extra services we're looking to implement in the next year we've started to look at hunger among the h s clients to see if they need food. >> supervisor mar. >> this will help me understand more ms. mcfadyen what's the financial requirement for families to qualify. >> medi-cal level. >> what would that income level be generally. >> hundred and 25 percent of

the federal powerful level. >> you mentioned a lot of the of the seniors are isolated and living alone for a single person what would it be $10,000 a year i'm trying to remember what the - really tiny slight. >> $11,000. >> a person in san francisco living at $11,000 a year. >> right. >> the caseload has not been going up but a small slifrth and many are isolated living lift ev'ry voice and sing by themselves there's a great group caring across the adjudications that is looking at how home care can be subsidized or home programs can be created so a larger group of seniors above that level in poverty could hopefully stay in san

francisco i know that is a national effort from the national alliance is working on i'm realizing what a small slither of extremely poor. >> and some people that qualify for above medi-cal but that requires them to pay a share of the costs very expenditure our next area is the protective area services division i want to highlight the adult protect services program we list all the various neglect cases and i'm pointing out this because they have been some really high profile cases on cluster and harold throughout the city recently and health and safety includes that is sincerely in terms of the highest number and

our staff is trained to investigate to see if there is a finding of self-neglect and they work diligently to try to get services the challenging piece of the adult protective services the orderly adult has to agree to services if they have capacity it is challenging our staff is working with them but it is difficult we have a hoarding pilot we have one dedicated working that is doing inner testify work with the behavior and we'll have the results we've wrapping that study but hoping to see some promise from that approach in our adult protective services

with neglect have increasing one to 3 percent every year right now next division i want to highlight our long term care operations division specifically the community living fund we're looking people living in poverty it was a program put in place in 2007 by the mayor and the board of supervisors and really the focus was to look at people that are above the small sliver so what this program does it 3 hundred percent of less of the poverty level about $30,000 give or take for a single individual that program is really intensify case management they have money

to buy equipment or help someone with rent or help with counseling home care it helps them stay saving at home and it is a helpful model this chart really highlights the fact it didn't cost much purchase of service dollars to help someone stay at home the majority receive the community living fund actually live on $2,000 or less and the purchasers are small one time thing seconds this chart the most often used purchase certify is non-medical home equipment but more expensive items like home care and boarding care is expenditure and the staff working hard our staff works hard to strategy i didn't see or allergies how and spend money so

they don't go over open the long term costs we're starting to see the needs for that increase we're spending more on those. >> next, i wanted to talk about our community services and intact division that includes the county and the county in take division i wanted to point out in county veterans services office we're finally seeing a decrease in 2014-2015 we're seeing the decrease in the termination and there's a couple of things that led to the increase one we have a small staff doing this program and we were actually missing a couple of staff doesn't have the capacity but the other thing the veterans administration i think

probably you all read about this in the paper but the conveniences administration is doing a horrible job of processing claims they have in 2013-2014 the veterans administration changed the way to process the claims added staff and now those claims are going through much quicker and simultaneously we fulfilled position weigh seeing those come back down we have we can't control the veterans administration the veterans administration the process is very comprehensive and our staff makes sure the applications are implemented before they get to the veterans administration their claims are really ready to be approved and often they have to resend and resend we're

seeing a decrease and finally wanted to highlight this is the $2.8 million in nutrition add backs you all approval for ammunition in the department of the aging and adult services we are jew just now getting this money out the door of the majority has gone into meals and younger adults are disabilities we've enhanced our grocery program which include home delivered groceries for people that can stand in line or homebound that is one of the areas that we're in port of the services that is starting to assess what hunger we're working with the food bank specifically and we can have i h s providers pickup food for their clients

it's a another food source in home clients last thing i want to talk about we're able a new public facing site with families with disabilities for that years we've not have a centralized location we're at 5060 missions it is hard to navigate we're exciting we're going to have a new sites on the corner of golf and otis and do everything that goss does with the app h operant and the transitional care but process applications for medi-cal and, california fresh and be part of the cal system

with h f a is a better integration and it is also a really hopefully good comfortable place for seniors and people with disabilities to come and get service. >> that's it nonetheless you have questions. >> supervisor mar. >> yes. that's existing a one-stop center that combines all the services with people with disabilities and seniors when it that i i know that's an identifiable when will that center be up and running. >> hopefully in august or september we'll do a soft launch get the staff in and do something bigger last night. >> what the food security task force and the san francisco general has look at the need it is tremendous for the need was

way bigger than the city was able to provide i know we as a a board of supervisors passed a resolution committing to end hunger by 2020 you said money was added back it is only we're only starting to those projects with home delivered meals and groceries and community-based aggregate lunch meal programs can you dlaubt on that it was my expectation we'll be addressing one quarter of the san franciscan that our budget analyst identified many of them children and growing number of seniors and folks with sdabltsz.

>> we have all those programs going we'll have all the money out the door and flowing i took a little bit of time to look at how to allocate all those funds and you know with us we take a lot of time to work with the community providers to strategy allergies the best way to get the money out the don't worry about we've deny that we haven't had time to analyze the effectiveness to see if we get more funding. >> last week, i was with the coalition of agencies on the rally are as on city hall not only planning for the senior and disability action on third street and many of the centers they're saying that in san francisco we're only