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that to improve and enhance your dust control, i asked lenar ir ving to give us a chunk of data every ten minutes, a in the yellow column are wind speeds these all happen to be below 15. they're much smaller numbers and clearer health alliance ask that we have cut off at 15 and at 20 at different times, they have asked for those things for my own education, i look at this data, and took a two week period and what did i learn during the two week period, from march 13th-thirty-first. this is a scale that gets used for compare sons it's the both work wind scale 13 to 18, it's a
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moderate leaves, kus can be lifted up, branches can be moved, and 25 miles an hour is brush where small trees, begin to sway. in that two week period, there is only one sample, 110 minute interval out of -- let's just say 18 days, 24 hours of data is about 26,000 minutes. so looking at everything above 15, that was 760 minutes, that was 3% of the total time period, 110 minute interval alone, at 9:30 at night, had a wind speed of 29.7. then 9, 10 minute intr intervals, between 20 and 24. there was 12-10 minute intervals, next to each other,
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and 66 times, there were wind speeds, between 15 and 19, sometimes they were consecutive three dates, that pasted three minutes in duration those are times we would be expecting the contractor to making extra effort, to control their dust if they found they couldn't control it that's where they needed to stop work that's how the dust control is managed. >> just on that point, is it an hour, consistent wind blowing for an hour or just ten minutes? >> in that 15 minute time period they're aware of this change in wind speed, they need to make changes, if they can't control it, then it stops there is no specification, how long it needs to last for. they need to see am i controlling dust or not? these are sort of like -- it's an every day obligation am i controlling dust or not these are extra awareness, now you
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know wind is at a higher speed, the obligation to control dust did not change, it just became harder to do so. the o thing i wanted to talk about the is the signage and some of the air monitoring questions that have come up. for the signage, the phone line the signage gives the picture of what the phone line looks like. the purpose of that line is the method for a public caller to get the most with the public transaction, each sent to multiple party, they have to provide provide immediate investigation within -- hours. if you are not getting a response that is appropriate. it's trying to do both, the other purpose of that phone line is to document you
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have a concern, so when residents, of ignosia, avenue stated they have dusted greater than pm ten, those are not visible, they're microscopic, they were called in there was no need to investigate, there is no response to what their occurrences are, so it's important to have a phone line you don't feel they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing. to force investigation, i wanted to acknowledge, when baby hill reported a problem with silt in their drinking water, and lenar, they were reported as not credible to the demolition site. they didn't get a timely communication response as needed, they were dependant on
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bottles water, that lenar delivered, that was over in a day. so there was a mishap how residences were responded to that is where pec, is part of the investigation, trucks went to the wrong hydrants, that the water line is a deadline water line, and cannot longer draw from it. things like that. we saw there was a problem, with something that could have been more of an emergency situation, we invited the department of management come and talk about the hazard alert system and offer that information to lenar, incidences, i think it was a big learning experience for everybody. when the community makes an effort to communicate these thing, we have to investigate them. proerply again, if a caller is not
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satisfied with the response they're encouraged to call 311. for dbi, with technical assistance, with concerns they feel they don't have expertise, there is misconduct with air monitoring, we began this dialogue, on the one owe indication, where lbn the daily inspectors, they were requested, they had not signed off on them they became a very big item of testimony we're very easily able to obtain their signatures on that that has never occurred since that time there is no indication, they did not do the job they're supposed to do it. the community gave us feedback on the form, talking about the frequencies, of things if they're only out there once how can we observe those frequencies, we asked lenar, to
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revise that form when you are doing observational recording, versus report reports from the contractors shg and how many times that occurred. with clean air health alliance will ena, have made discussions so that form and been adopted. i feel this is an example of working relationship together, to improve the systems -- there was a single day, when doctor tom p kins, removed a cassette after particular -- lab analysis is no missing data. there is also a
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hoes extended from the hoes that was close to the container below it the observance was sloppy. it was the job of the third party to see that and correct it we have added that to their inspection checklist, it did not block the air from entering the cassette, they had been sloppy it's not like the purpose of the cassette is let the air come into the filter. so i feel these two events do not warrant the attention that has been proclaimed around them they're very small detailed on a very big map of things that are going on every day. the other annual gaegs, is if an inspector, can
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draw four monitors, in a five minute periods, ensure write a single handout, and back in the car, it seems feasible they can do that two might be closer together, and the other two might be some where else it's not a large task to do, those are things i felt you spent time on in your previous meetings, i spent many hours on this assignment before i first appeared before you i toured the demolition sites, and talked to the neighbor shirley moore, i have been wearing my demolition and communication hats, to this site. i would like to recommend large scale projects, be required to have a community meeting, require to
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the dbi's communication for the permit -- that is a time for the developer to explain their control plan -- i think if you required this proactive effort to be transparticipant with the community, if we proactively explained the role of the third party and regulatory agencies, these are meant to built trust and communication on the front end and limit the stress that is caused by community members not understanding what is happening, i know this project also started with a controversy around implosion, that is another aspect starting off on a bad foot about trust. and er was certified on the basis for the
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department, that regulatory agencies settled, i'm fine with those, those things were not checked on that er had to certify, these are recipes for not building trust i feel we could do it better, we could have a better tools for communication that is required so i'm not here doing all of this communication work, i should not have to be here these should have operating in other ways. any way, i would like to end with a comment by shirley moore, she said, the community is being heard, and working together to protect public health, and we're working in a collaborative effort moving forward. it doesn't mean she's happy with every single thing that happens, but she's part of a process and her concerns as a neighbor to the construction project are given some voice.
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>> commissioner melgar. >> thank you for being here. i appreciate it, i known you for a long time i know you are topnotch at what you do. i would like to suggest, people's perceptions are based on their reality, and i actually understand it. from your comments, i think you are looking at it in terms of compliance with what is required, i can see how the city sees it as a systemic problem out of balance, the attorney for lenar was here last month talked about how they want to be good to the community because their reputation and you know -- i'm sitting there thinking if i was a community residence and my first line was to call the developer, even though that's the requirement and you are
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telling -- >> some requirement. >> you said the third party contractor, is on the developer, it's their requirement to do so, not your requirement to monitor every day. that to me is a systemic problem from a community perspective. so i get it that's the way it was written, the bad is on us for requiring it that way, but i can understand how, you know, when finally, there's a chance to do something, your tap water is screwed up you call -- that is not just on this pronlt it's built on 100 years of history of mistrust. the fact that we we didn't do what you are now recommending, in termses of having public meetings that are transparent and the redevelopment agency when they set it up set it up this way, it totally is our bad as a city
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i get that, but now going forward, i appreciate that you are here i appreciate that shirley moore which is an upstanding community leader feels like the community is being heard, i just want to acknowledge that there is a problem, despite the compliance issues being met, to the let r of the law. there is an imbalance of power. the points that you brought up about not wanting to put out overly technical data because folks might not understand it i would push you back on that i think there is something very valuable about transparency, the community has access to technical is tasens from nonprofits, and folks at golden gate university law school. there are folks watching if it is in fact, what you say that
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things are going well once in a while, there is a hick up we have a system to address, then it would behoove us to put it out there. >> it is out there. we didn't oppose putting it out there. i'm saying, as a matter of practice that is something not usually for public because it's not their training to do it but certainly, it is 100% out there. and town send has established that website the community's request is you have to give us something to understand what is posted. that's why i wrote the preamble for the community members, let me walk you through these explanatory text to it's adequate you understand what are you looking at and that was positive. >> i appreciate you are here and spent so much time and
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energy to folks understand. >> i think related to your last project, when one project comes along, there is not all of a sudden, a way to hire an extra person to deal with that budgetary need that might be in relation to the fees you are collecting, maybe you would like temporary positions to these projects, it took away 50% of the work i have been able to do in the last two months, that is my normal job, because i'm doing a lot of documentation, and meeting time and site visits so maybe it's a systemic thing you maybe you could address. >> sorry. commissioner mar? >> i want to say thank you very much again for your report i think this is the thing we confront, i wanted to thank our department and is sis tans chief lowrey we know we have
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taken away that inspector from other job sites, that he or she should be at we piled on our own department, we understand that. but i think the reason this commission wasn't willing to pass the buck or anything like that is because we know this community has been misserved and failed so many ways, so we felt that yes now we have to -- i think we still have to -- even though you know, with your work and the department's work, we think things are going okay now, in a way, we have to up the workload for ourselves, i think the community does not feel 100% comfortable they can just call the 1-800 number of lenar or their contractor this department and your department is supposed to serve them. so
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they kind of want that. >> yeah. i would suggest calling both. >> so i feel like i want to thank your department and our department for doing that, that was what was expected this was a tough project. >> commissioners? >> mrs. cohen, obviously, thank you very much. none of the other people are here, i don't the wi need to call them up for questions, i think [inaudible] might want to say a few words, to your point on policing, i get it. there are mechanisms in place, they're supposed to automatically, put it in action, so you don't have to do all the work you do the commission appreciates you get to the bottom of this to make sure this doesn't happen again, i commend you for recognizing where we did fail, because we
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just don't get that from people who are involved in this in the field, that means a lot to us there say genuine effort we recognize the issues, and do something about them. we appreciate that. if somebody wants to go up there and walk, but thank you mrs. cohen once again. >> president mccarthy, commissioners, i wanted to take a couple of minutes to up vied updates for the registerses, by the city staff for the candlestick project. one of the items we were requested to look into relocating monitors further up the hill at about the elevation up the hill involved in the process, including mrs. moore. i wanted to update that is now completed. in addition we have added formore monitors that is part of the es
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bes toes. for her eforlt and helping us identify further improvements to bolter our program. one of the items was the idea of putting outdoor hangers in the community. that provided some information to project resources. this is the front and back of the flyer going out, it's in three languages, english, spanish, and can't neeztonese --
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>> those are for phase two, for the removal of the dirt, that is not going to start -- when is that phase going to start? >> it's likely to start some time next week. that is right. initially, during the demolition, it's not mass ka reading it's moving slabs -- they will remain operational, daily, through the completion of the project. >> those reports will be go over. daily monitored and the
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health department will have a look at them and all of the other agencies will have them going forward. >> that is correct. we will post monitoring with the eci, web side, and the companies involved with candlestick. thank you. >> thank you very much. if there is no more on that from the team from lenar obviously, i want to recognize bay area quality controller here if there are any questions, that might come up later on. hang on. okay. >> john har vin with bay area quality control, i wanted you to know we have a complain line. that number is 1-800-334-odor. we have response during business hour, they can be as quickly as
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15 minutes to half an hour. we have a couple of inspectors, at the site each and every day, including spot checks after hours, and on the weekends. >> and you are getting copies of the daily reports on the wind and the es besasbestos that everybody else is looking at. >> correct. >> public comment? >> public comment on item number seven. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> i'm dr. tom p kins shg we have been participating in the clean air alliance in these meetings, it has been very difficult for us to sit there and maintain our composure when
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we're being insulted by lenar's, representative to mrs. moore, who is a former -- he's a retired registered nurse in the health department. when we're talking about dust invading the home it's implying her gnome is dirty and she is dirty, that's why there is dust in the home. that does not bring about resolutions to the issues we are talking about. i present april 21st to the commission i apologize not getting this to you earlier, the standards being employed at candlestick park, it's this item here that are lower than the state standards for the state of texas. they say they're compliant, mrs. cohen,
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stated it can run 25 miles an hour, that is different than what is presented here today, we're asking 15-18 miles an hour, mrs. moore's sitting above, on the hill. in a simple weather reports, wind travels, faster up than at the bottom the wind gage is at the bottom of the parking lot. we need real conditions real live conditions of what residences are living in not theoretical and made up. one second. in the initial earth study that
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was done, i'm somewhat disappointed that people did not look at this closer and look it with a more critical eye that the air monitoring and air modelling that was done by the company, by lenar was actually -- i'm trying to get that graph to you. (buzzer) this is the same study done and utilized and the data was used by the incloegs, that the model was used at the san francisco airport. there is no micro studies done in bay view hunters point, we know historically, the wind swirls on top of the hill, if [inaudible] he would have broke babe ruth's record, we're tired of you people. we are starting our own company. those of you like to participate --
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this >> thank you doctor. >> we would ask that you pull the permit under way. >> thank you. >> they haven't moved. >> i appreciate your comments, thank you sir. >> further public comment? >> good afternoon commissioners, i'm mar lean tran -- specifically district ten, as you know, the population is largely asia pacific islanders, many or nonenglish speaking, i was apolled by this project on facebook $6 million, i get notice about projects, this is unacceptable, recently, there is a multiple dollar project, i only saw because the residents,
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brought me something they couldn't read, everything is in english only or online. i completely concur with karen about the recommendations, any pronlts from now on should provide proper line access, and deliver it to the doors so people know. otherwise, everything is what i call. advertising on the moon they advertise, but nobody knows. how can you be reacting to any such projects, if you don't know it exists in the first place? it just didn't make sense. again i was very happy i was able to at least meet with the people of the clean air alliance and allegation the departments, have been extremely cooperative to monitor and get the feedback from the people you know so far, everything is english only, you question whether it's really
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come mriening with the language access ordinance of san francisco, with the population we have in district ten, i would like to see more transparency more accountability, it isn't being done and continues to do that, i know recently with my input, it's in three languages, we want more access to that so people can know they're living in an environment that inclusive of them. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. is there any more public comment? i see none ma'am secretary. >> okay, public comment is closed. we had a request about the items. >> yes if it's okay with commissioners due to time restraints, we go to item 12, and revisit back to item eight.
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or the commissioner has a request. >> to the chair, before we leave are going to continue to receive reports? what's going to happen. >> it's not an action item, it's an update, so -- we are kept in inpormed, i will check in with the staff and mrs. cohen, and anybody will contact us the department will contact us if there is any change in any outcome that was reported to us today, that would be negatively impacted, what is achieved here. >> we should make a report to you, and the table to keep track of the discussion, can be provided to you, through the secretary. >> is that done once a week? >> every time we meet i update it approximately two weeks we are
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