as a mote cyclist, the power that we press hard is a good deterrent for them to be listening actually because it's hard for school sites on their own to regulate this sort of traffic flow because sometimes people get very irate and then i'm asking, is there a collaboration between other city departments in evaluating how safe some of our intersections are to and from school, with this increased traffic and increased residency in san francisco, while they're doing this assessment, is there a way to look at certain intersections which maybe have not been noticed or earmarked for being much more higher traffic or having much more -- i mean, during these drop off and pick-up times that it requires maybe a stoplight instead of just a stop sign or, you know, a regular arterial, so i'm wondering,

is there a coordination with that, is there some way to track sort of with sfpd too so in intersections when we mentioned in soma, we have a lot of increased traffic there and more kids and walking to school on intersections there, are we coordinating at all with the folks that actually do the evaluations about what type of arterial should be at our intersections? >> i will try to answer as best i can, it's usually departments, in this case, sfmta that might be answering this question we didn't necessarily ask them to come to this particular hearing, but as a supervisor and supervisor kim, both of us are very involved with vision vao*er row and both of us are involved with our own districts in terms of working with the community and

identifying these type of -- these arterials or these streets, intersection and so forth to see what we can work on and prioritize it. the -- sometimes the city will have their plan, a bigger plan, especially under vision zero that will hit certain streets that basically have the highest incidents of accidents 6% of our streets harbor 60% of the accidents occur, but it doesn't mean we should ignore the smaller street and is that's where the community can really give a lot of input. by the way, i know that maybe no one has been killed here yet but look what's happening every day at some point that's going to happen, so we do ask for these things. it's a little slow, but i think it's improved quite a

bit. i, for instance in district 7, we have 12 projects that probably wouldn't have happened and they're not completed yet but they're starting because of the participatory budget process i'm using to allow for the community to identify these issues so i don't know if supervisor kim would have any other comments about that, but that's where we're at. >> thank you, supervisor yee, i am particularly thinking in the area of supervisor kim's district, even though she have a lot of schools but the areas where we typically didn't have a lot of traffic before but now we have so much development going on that there is an increased traffic, i know when i had spoken to mta they said if so many people get killed or hit at the intersection but we're trying to be preventive versus reactive, right, so i just thought if we're doing an analysis, i mean, we're doing

this looking at traffic safety around schools, that maybe we can be more proactive in giving some recommendation saying wait a minute, a stop sign is not doing it here any longer i think we're going to need a stop light so i think supervisor kim, in your area, you've seen an increase in development, is anything going on around those school sites to increase the safety at those really busy intersections now? >> yes. if i can answer the question we're doing a study with sfmta that is already largely funded although we're looking for augmented funding for a traffic study around bessie car mike l and [inaudible] elementary school, so we're looking at what types of interventions and protections we can do in that area because the speeds are very high there, given that it is an onramp and off ramp for the 101 and 80 freeway and they come racing down 7th street and of course down harrison

street as well, we're looking at some pedestrian safety improvements on sherman alley, for example, but we're also looking to see what we can do on folsom and 7th, a couple of suggestions we're exploring, we've seen that in other cities they've painted the crosswalks with colorful drawings and so even thinking about painting families and kids to remind drivers that they're in a residential neighborhood, also shortly in a couple of months, we'll be launching a pedestrian safety banner just throughout the south of market that will have signs showing pictures of our youth and our seniors saying that we live here, to please slow down and we're hoping that will also create greater awareness amongst driver that is are coming through the city that may not realize that these are mixed use residential neighborhoods, we're trying to figure out how to create visual queues around bessie i don't think drivers

realize that is a public elementary school, we know tenderloin alumni school is trying to slow down the traffic on van ness, we have not moved as far along in that area. it is challenge improving pedestrian safety and neighborhoods that aren't more residential and that's something we've been working with sfmta on but the bessie community is very involved, the community based organizations as well as the principal. >> thank you. >> commissioner mendoza? >> thank you. i just wanted to thank everyone also for all of this great work, supervisor yee, when you first brought this to our attention and we launched it at lakeshore, it was just really cool to see richie's neighborhood and the work that goes into developing this whole program. i just had -- i also just wanted to recognize the youth leaders. i think the idea that you

guys are thinking about this and finding ways to help us implement really matters and i hope you stick to this even once you graduate. i wanted to know how other schools can participate. i know as you're kind of growing the program and finding additional resources, i had mentioned it to a parent today and they said, oh my god we would love this at pobody how do i find out, i wonder how other schools can find out and how they can participate and i'm curious how you're working with vision zero and folks with mta and that's another opportunity to raise some dollars for this, thank you. >> i'll give a quick answer to the first question and then maybe sal can expand on it. but i went to the elementary

school principal's meetings a few months ago and it was one way where i outreached because all the elementary school principals were there in three sections so i went to all three sections to just mention the program and fortunately in each section, we had already three schools ta were participating each section had one of the principals so they spoke up about it and from that discussion, 24 schools were interested and sal's been following up with the schools and that's where we're sort of rolling it out but i think there's probably other mechanisms, i talked to -- whi meet pt folk, sometimes the motivation can come from them than the principal, you have to have all the ingredients to have some participation. sal do you have any -- >> thank you, supervisor.

the easiest way to get enrolled in the program is to call me directly or e-mail me directly, that would be the easiest way. i welcome any opportunity obviously there's a fiscal issue to be concerned, i can't overenroll schools if i can't officially fund the staff and order the equipment and whatever needs to be done. as the supervisor mentioned, we had an opportunity to meet with the principals meeting and we introduced the program there a lot of principals showed interest given the budget that we are working with, we estimated about 12 schools should be sufficiently safe to endorse and enroll, so if a school does drop out we would have another slot open and it's on a first come first serve basis at the time being, but if this pilot program expands, we'll be able to fund most of the schools and at least that's the goal for the

supervisorial school representatives because safety is key. >> excellent, thank you. >> so, the other questions that you had. >> can i make this other comment before you answer that one real quick because i thought about something else. so, the other thing you might consider is with the mayor's office is working with supervisor farrell on the shared school yards project and we now have 25 schools across the school district and we're going to be expanding on that soon, but there's opportunities. there were the schools can tap into $2,500 to host an event on the weekend on their schoolyard, so as you're starting to develop the curriculum for this or any other kind of workshop or safety mechanism that can get displayed on a schoolyard that you can take advantage of those resources and so the school that is are participating, they should be remined they have access to

those dollars, that can help to promote this initiative. and then on the vision zero? >> yes, i was just going to say that, first of all, safe routes to school is another mechanism where safety is talked about and is part of the vision zero efforts, and since it's under the same department, there should be communication. they were a little surprised when we first rolled out this program and that's the people that were connecting them said what is this, and i said it's under the school district and maybe there should be some discussion internally, but vision sower row, we have our education component in which several times i have urged and made sure that they knew -- the whole committee would

know about the effort that we're making that's connected to education and back and forth so there's discussions around this. it's not necessarily include as one of their highlighted strategies but it's certainly in the discussion. >> yeah. and the district just adopted a support mechanism for vision sao*er rho, so i hope sal, you and ben have connected and are having discussions around that because this feeds into your intentions. >> commissioner wynns? >> thank you. i want to thank everybody, but and particularly my colliding because i wanted to follow up on two of the things that particularly commissioner fewer talked about so my kids actually went to lakeshore and i was [inaudible] two of the things you brought up the habit of having people park on the other side of the street, it's just really obvious

there and then having their kids run across the street, we've had kids hit by cars there years ago even when my kids were there and on middle field and lake merced boulevard which is the entrance and exit into that neighborhood from the big traffic boulevard, there used to be a stop sign. when my kids first went there where now there's a light there wasn't anything there not even a stop sign. at that time when we tried to get a light there they said, well, we can't put a light anywhere unpleasing somebody gets killed, so i said we're going to wait for an elementary kid get killed and then we'll get a light, there were some accidents at that intersection and i wants to remind all of us i think it was at our last meeting or recently, we discussed the

municipal railway services and how we had finally after decades been able to get the muni to change their afternoon schedules so that there were more frequent buses for kids going home and not -- and in fact that had always been a point of contention with older people particularly riding buses in the afternoon that the buses just became flooded with students coming home from school so i think my point is that a lot -- clearly from everything we heard today, this is a really important thing to do pedestrian safety becomes more important to us as the city is more congested and also frankly, remember that we have drawn down our school bus system so much this tha* we have a lot more kids walking and taking the public transportation system and we need to worry about their safety on the streets much more so it seems to me that what we need, what we need,

kind of the policy makers is to have an overview or coordinated look at all the things in this case that are looking at pedestrian safety near schools. i noticed that -- and then the second thing is that the discussion about the schools in district 6 and the schools that are in highly congested urbanized areas are not on this list and those are the hardest places to do these things so for me the question that comes up is well, what are the actual mta crossing guards, what other things are going on there and how could a program like this or other things that we could do to enhance pedestrian safety around our elementary schools in particular, but all of our schools come to mind. we all should remember that recently we had -- when we heard about the student who was an aptha student that was killed by a bus recently and i

went there too, i said, my god it was on ocean avenue because everybody thought, that's a death trap, somebody's going to get killed there and always there were school district administrators and teachers and lots of staff people going down there all the time because it's really a hard place for kids to get on and off of the streetcar line there, and that isn't true it was in that neighborhood, i appreciate that, and i know that the staff spends a lot of time trying to manage that particular place but i'm using this just as an example because around galileo and mission, these places are on major, not only transportation corridors but where there are high levels of traffic, so i realized through this discussion which i truly appreciate this program and i

appreciate sao*upt john's referral to the big high traffic streets that surround his campus but have these little streets at the back that are used for access because i just realize that we -- i would like to see more of a kind of coordinated somebody's report looking at -- and i mean multiagency with the mta and the municipal railway and us everybody looking at all the things we do to try to ensure pedestrian traffic and by the way, also safe routes to the school was mentioned and we'd like to get more kids to bike to school, so the need for paying attention to or investing in human resources and other resource tos address safety around our schools becomes much more important than it used to be and in fact i'll just end by saying again, i'm certainly aware that in part this problem is a bigger problem because we're not sending kids on yellow buses

so much anymore. i would like to -- somebody the staff or others to come back to us with some idea about how we can have a coordinated look at all the thing that is are going on around safety around schools and around the street safety, pedestrian and egress and access to those places because it's a big issue and i appreciate that we're doing these things about it but i know there's a lot more we can do. thank you. >> supervisor kim? >> i realize there's still a member of the public that wanted to speak so i'll go after. >> so there's somebody here, gero. >> hi, good eve anyones members of the board and commissioners, i'm genaro [inaudible] coordinator, through walk san francisco and the safe house to san francisco partnership i work to make our street ins san francisco safer and more walkable. i think it's great that this program is engaging students

that it's a fostering mentor ship and team work, i also think it's great that there's research where and when the program can be feasible it was mentioned, soma, i know there's also very limited funbacker funding when it comes to schools. i think it's really important we are maybe work witching the safe house to school partners to discuss these issue it would be greats if we align our programs with the crossing guard program, we want to make sure the perimeter of the school is safe. i think if we're putting kids out there i think we need to make sure that that immediate environment is actually safe. another thing that as a san francisco safe house to school partnership, we're a coalition of agencies city departments including sfusd the mta who work on reducing single family vehicle trip tos school and promoting walk, bicycling and

because of the transportation assignment policy, car pooling and transportation, oncebacker one thing we noticed from the safety drop off zones tla was the areas where it was really dangerous when a safety drop off zone is established it seems to promote driving so i think that's kind of the discussion that would be great to have if you who are members of the partnership. thank you. >> thank you, any other public comments on this item? seeing none, public comment has closed. supervisor kim? >> thank you *. first of all, supervisor yee, i want to thank you for calling this item. it was really interesting to hear and not just from the school district but also sfpd, our students and our principal in terms of how -- what the ill pact of this program has been. i think it's so important to educate our students on pedestrian safety, that it is a big part of us achieving vision zero, 0 traffic faye

tat ts and not only for our young people to understand how to make our streets safer both as a pedestrian and as a driver but these students are our future adult resident they are our future drivers so instilling that culture early on i think is incredibly important and i just want to note also, you know, in many ways, kids help push their parents to do the right thing, whether it's around recycling and the environment there's some great articles about how young children are pushing their parents to be better environmental stewards based on what they learn in school or to be better about health and soda and eating, all components of what i think sfuc has been successful in educate, so i think having this component will be a big part of that and i'm excited that commissioner fewer has introduced the vision zero we hit vao*er row traffic fatalities in ten years the

finagling thing i will say, a big component of us hitting vision vao*er row, is everybody slowing down, whether it's drivers, cyclists and pedestrians and i hope this can be a big component of the education push we're never going to get to vao*er row if everybody doesn't slow down on our streets and recognize that there are too many shared modes and too many people for us to sacrifice time -- sorry, sacrifice humans or injuries in face of time. we can all be five or ten minutes later because it's going to make our streets safer, but i think this is a good component. i know the list of schools that we talk about is for the student crossing guards but bessie does have adult crossing guards as folsom, it would be better to have our young people engaged but we do have adult crossing guards in a number of schools.

>> first of all, i really want to thank the -- sal and superintendent kevin truet for coming out and also bringing the sac members who are actively participating and it was really, really enjoyable to hear how passionate they were, they are about this program, and i would say, you know because of sal and kevin, it wasn't my thought, but certainly what's happened is that the program itself has evolved into different layers of leadership coming about, it's not just the students that are doing the crossing guards it's not just the parents that are also involved but now i'm seeing that the high school kids are also learning and giving at the same time.

again, i want to thank principal john for being here, you know, especially before school stops and i appreciate the sergeants that are here, pera and murray, and your other officer. the -- and i really want to say that i appreciate chief sir who just jumped on this and he's fully supportive when he didn't have to say anything about this and his commitment has been ongoing, so i want to say that one of the purposes of this hearing was to look at what we're doing what we hope to do and i would say that now that there's a feeling that this program might be taking off there's -- the question i have and it doesn't have to

be answered today, but some things we need to think about is our capacity whether it's the -- in the administration with sal, how many can you really handle, in terms of time and also the sfpd, in terms of their commitment as we roll out more and more. it's not just them going to train the students theses but i've seen them go there and stay there for a few days and make sure that the students are going to be safe because the habits of some of the drivers, whether they're the parents that are drooping off or other drivers just driving through have been at come door sloat, their habits were really awful and it took two tickets from police officers the first morning and it

almost turned over night people started telling other people to calm down over here. maybe you hope their habits will not only calm down at that intersection but throughout. so, we need to figure out also to having ongoing funding for this. i'm committed to having the city contribute as much as possible. i'm hoping the school district can also contribute at some future point so we could see this as an ongoing program, not just like a pilot and then it disappears like many good things we do in the city. the richie's neighborhood, i'm still very committed to find the funding to get it built for san francisco. i think the things that children can learn from it is just tremendous. i mean, when i saw them doing -- it's one thing to look at a news clip or for someone to talk about it but when

you're in there, when the kids are there and see the excitement and how they're sort of absorbing everything, it's amazing and once you build it, there's going to be ongoing cost for staffing but it's built and it could be used year after year after year, and it would take several years just to get to every elementary school, and then by the tyke you recycle again you're back to new kids, so i'm hoping that -- what i would like to do is continue this item because i would like to bring it back in the future to look at -- make sure we have some solutions to the budget issues. i also realize that maybe as we continue this item, that we maybe want to expand the item itself because i'm hearing a lot of questions around it in

which we didn't invite sfmta to be here and other department and is they could have given maybe stronger answers than ourselves so the call of the chair would like to continue the item. >> so we have a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair. i think that we can do that without opposition. okay. mr. clerk are there any other announcements? >> there are no more ie tenl, madam chair. >> thank you, so that being said, thank you to everyone for being here. meeting adjourned. (meeting is adjourned).