a proven the basic right you know everyone in the neighborhood and provides you want to eat on a regular was not just a designation but an everyday restaurant so i'm reminded of one other the st. marys church it is a speech circumstance and special project sponsor that should get this kind of weird sud that is not the way that the planning code should work. >> commissioner richards. >> interesting i was reminded after hearing that about what mr. sanchez to apply until after july 2nd we can tackle those things the last project in north

beach that was food service routine restaurant we were at 74 percent serving i have a question for mr. sanchez can you please length of your lease can you share that. >> 10 year 10 year option and one other question i understand the model is a you - it is nice to have by rights in the city the planning staff mentioned 232 other sites did you consider any of the other vacant sites. >> when the commission decided to look for new sites we carved out a footprint for the new momma's the original momma's is a tiny kitchen with 13 tables we wanted is that 7 seat location

around 28 hundred succeeded of importance to momma's concept is the open kitchen when you walk down it is my dad said he i think vented the way to sell food wait outside so when my brother mistake asked me to look at vallejo i packed up to the kitchen and said oh, my gosh the savings were half a million dollars right there starring in front of ever you didn't have to be a harvard university mba a few other places that i knew of none of them they cost a

substantial amount of money and interesting i'm going to have to say this is making me hungry to echo commissioner johnson and commissioner moore's and commissioner wu's points this is spot zoning that will be gnarling drairld i'd like to see it broader and i'll ask prosecute guy a way to do this without having to rezone any way at all. >> not as currently proposed the only way to work without a rezone a redesign of - well, no there really based on this is no way to pursue it. >> i guess to commissioner wu's point for a special iconic neighborhood the only kinds of reigns why you'll consider it i'll defer to my fellow

commissioners for in their opinion and commissioner antonini. >> i remember the old st. mary's it predated chinatown when it become time to take advantage of the historical transfer development rights moving it into the c-3 makes sense but only to construct that for this site in a chinatown special use district as i remember or chinatown commercial i can't remember the zoning by that's why this legislation is gnarling craftsed we don't want mom to take advantage of that unless they're an anywhere image of momma's you've got a 50 percent usage for the grocery stores component and total size of 5 thousand square feet and

ground level 15 most years vacant and couple of thing we have on this it make perfect sense a lot of work went into constructing it, it is going to do this this is an outline win and no loss mraundz mr. sanchez said it is imperfect hard i'm going who is the - would wanted to take over this is a concept that has to stand alone you have a loss leader of the grocery store from the grocery store didn't generate enough to support it's will will feed off the profit from the restaurant there are conditions included and call roll anyone what make sure it is, in fact, a grocery store so

we don't run into a situation i don't have any problem i'm very much in favor and ready to move for approvals i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say. >> i'll over a couple of comments not in favor of the special use this is a unique situation that location i've followed when the grocery stores closed up and the king of titles got chased out and gotten to know a lot of the people in this room a true grocery store i think there are legitimate efforts to bring in a safe way or trader joe's or ralph's this is too small for that and the parking is an issue no parking lots so i think the reality we've seen it dictate for awhile and

pizza market flounder there and hastening has lost a lot of money and keeping that open and for god sakes he's been patient enough to withstand and prominent location from the locals prospective we're giving an opportunity there are not that many buy rights there are not that many and let's give one of our local merchant a chance to let them make business cut or muffins or whatever. >> it is going to shine through with a little bit more space arrest commissioner moore i fully agree with you special use districts can be abused and the precedent we'll be but this is a unique case not small business

that is come from out of town and bought it their way through this is a group that's proven themselves and struggling in this location. >> commissioner hillis. >> i think this is good gnarling focused we should call it out an amendment he did katherine to continue their iconic we want them to thrive they're already there and continue to expand so it is similar not because it is momma's but there's going into a space they've got a good concept not only a restaurant by grocery and restaurant we want that bar to be high it is great you're taking this on i'm sure it's a heavy process to amend the planning code i recognize the

difficulty and changes we want the neighbors serve the retail establishment there so i appreciate the way it is done and also supportive. >> commissioner moore you raised our hand. >> i wanted to first acknowledge the commissioners concerns the sud we share those concerns i don't like to use to lightly i think this is fair to acknowledge that part of the reason we do this because of the nature of the north beach sud is itself specific and unique to the city this use in most of the rest of the city will not require this action so you do think this is important to think that you know if we were to generalize this it goes against the neighborhood sud that limits the size and alignments restaurant uses in

ways that other district don't so that was we struggled and had a lot of intense discussion but came on the do of supporting it because of the nature of the business and the location. >> can you follow-up director ram isn't that will a liquor license on a restaurant not a limited restaurant that wants a liquor license for the type of breakfast and lunch served there; is that correct? >> yes. the 3 restaurants categories that are eating drinking categories left on the organization are limited restaurant and then the restaurant and bar and the distinction is there is no ability to serve alcohol and i would let mr. sanchez but their

intent to give beer and brunch and lunch and breakfast appropriate. >> that's the core of the legislative amendment you need tool look at the language for the sud to allow that to happen. >> i thought it was because it was a restaurant correct me if i am wrong. >> and thank you director ram you it is a used size issue he currently sometimes in the written report but, yes the current use maximums use within the north beach mcd it is establishing the uses that are larger than that but combined with the sponsor to moving forward with a restaurant as defined in the code with the

ability to offer liquor. >> i want to ask an additional question. >> i looked at the web and pulled up an incredible historic photo you're not loudly to copy it is outstanding but concern san francisco when racing i didn't was at its fill operation what are you planning to do with signage and awnings and restoring part of that element and where to fully marry the strength of momma's with the what say, i that now historic resources in that location. >> thank you, commissioner my name is dana architect i live in the neighborhood so i get the opportunity to have to go elsewhere to eat as well when i

try to have breakfast at momma's but the association has allowed me to get to know his family and the enthusiasm behind their operation one of the things we've talked about early on and engaged to help them was this particular location helped to try to bring it closer to its original the president because i think this is a very stunning building it is handsome got a beautiful proportion it has an articulation it sets it apart if anything else in the neighborhood and the sanchez were districts to try to bring that back around so on the overhead here i don't know if? the photograph commission but one we included in the report

that backs to 12950s mid 1950s and it set in motion our overall intent with the new configuration which is to try to you preserve as much as possible this preexisting look so we look at for instance what is being proposed. >> can you zoom out a little bit because it is really you look over the building it is stunning. >> so the intention to enhance the existing fabric it as a beautifully articulated storefront system we want to try to as much as possible bring it back to its original configuration there's a wayne's below this it

is tile we've been talking about with the family and owner about trying to bring that to its closer configuration one of the major components we want to make sure that we address is the installation of this proposed new awnings and when you look at this awnings i see it is essential the same configuration of one in the 1950s that is an important element because the sanchez family really is interested in energy best wishes and congratulations in street corner we've talked about creating on street scraping and mr. guys has talked about that and areas for outdoor dining for breakfast service and so forth and this storefront itself will allow

very clear articulation especially the grocery the the momma's effort and trying to bring people off the street and going into the interior space that will work consistent with what we're proposing additionally the interior the space commissioners we're hopefully, there is interconnection between as sanchez mentioned there are different operating hours, however the idea to really let those two spaces interact with each other while they can function dpilg so the doors will be wide open the momma's restaurant will allow an emergency communication with an

inner movement with the events like poetry reading that is of interest in the community i hope that answers your question commissioner moore. >> i think i support that i hope you'll change the color that is occurred black back to a lighter color. >> i appreciate if you pull that back with something that is light heart and colorful. >> excellent idea to brighten that ominous looking overhead hang the signage on the building about essential stay within the same configuration there, however, as you see in momma's instead of the market. >> except it's not typical for the time. >> one of the wonderful things

about the older configuration so we'll certainly look at that but maybe ways to look at the logo and some of the signage xhshgsz. >> thank you. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you just a couple of quick things first of all, as a general public comment i hoping to see some of the suggestions coming out of this restoration commission on the historic locations i know this will definitely apply and many suggestions how to get around more place like momma's general public comment looking forward to hearing that and second thing we don't pass legislation so the second part of the motion to recommend to the board of supervisors top the planning code amendment i'll be supportive i really hope that scomplooiks and other supervisors look at those items

one and 5 with the planning code amendment the first one is the post second location talking about the square feet and it seems unnecessary - the fifth one i think that adds an element of that's just unnecessary the conditional use authorization requires e discretion from the commission adding the number of roman numerous only adds an additional place for contention it is not necessary i'll highly suggest we add if we make a motion and add that condition or finding that the supervisors be take into account that as they take this. >> commissioners if i may sud is very broad i mean offer

overly restrictive and our officer is doing our due diligence to try to get the vacancies filled and figure out what is best for the neighborhood mr. sanchez is working over two years we don't want want to impede that we'll definitely look at to the criteria you're referring to. >> commissioner antonini and yeah. probably the reason for item number 2 with the size restrictions to 5 thousand square feet in the vacancies to prevent the possibility of another establishment that fit this model going into a small vacant space and putting a second restaurant the neighborhood might not be

interested in it it makes it specific enough it is almost impossible for a second one if you require the big space bylaw so that maybe of some benefit the other point commissioner johnson made kind of is the net substantial beneficiary the conditional use i can agree but not hurt to say it twice other thing i'll mention on the idea for the font will be perhaps the little momma's that described the market could have the font of the historic or historic font on the sign and the most mass section the more duplicate of the momma's sign off the other i want to tie the two together certainly something you can work on architecturally i'm going to go ahead and move and ask the board of supervisors

to consider an amendment to the north beach special use district which would contain i don't have to read the 5 requirements but i could if you wanted me to contain those 5 requirements. >> and do you want to take up the matter separately. >> i'll do that separately and the cu separately. >> thank you commissioner hillis. >> commissioner wu. >> it sounds like the motion has been made i want to continue the conversation with commissioner johnson the 5 criteria is strange i won't take on number 2 it opens the door for someone else to use this expectation not intend. >> commissioner moore from the supervisor is intended to rice the legislation i'll be

supportive of this particular part will be part of a larger effort that indeed last to rally around the number of vacancies and their potential reindemnification of use if that's the intent in the absence of that i still have the same question i might not been able to take a positive position supports on the legislative amendment while i'm no support of cu for the application. >> commissioner richards. >> one thing to the right after this meeting our neighborhood is having a review of the economic survey of what the neighbors want and maybe sxhiejz as the a really good thing for us it will help out thank you. >> there is a motion and a second to adapt a recommendation

for approval on that motion commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson no commissioner moore no commissioner richards no commissioner wu commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 4 to 3 with commissioners commissioner johnson marry commissioner moore and commissioner richards voting against we still have the matter of conditional use. >> go ahead and move conditional use authorization that will allow a restaurant.org as a mom mass what a component to allow a non-residential exceeded 2 thousand square feet within the north beach commercial district in the north beach special use district the 40 bulk. >> second. >> on that motion. >> commissioner johnson. >> so is this contingent on the

planning code amendment going through just checking. >> yes. commissioners a draft motion that specifies the confuse only became available if and when the board of supervisors passed a legislation when it occurs. >> i'm supportive thought you conditional uses and i voted no on the amendment because of the structure but i'm hoping something will pass. >> commissioners this one on the motion to approve the qualifying with conditions. >> commissioner antonini arrest commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and place you under our discretionary review calendar for item number ten

at mangles after a discretionary review planning commission dennis herrera dell vin before i do a presentation i did want to bring to the commission attendance that they have been expressed concerns about the quality of the presented drawings on this particular item and from the commission feels that there needs to be enhancement improvements on those presentations drawings we'll be willing to consider from the commission determines if this is necessary to continue or prefer me to do did presentation. >> councilmember glover. >> i'd like to bring to the commission attendance i brought the deficiency their impossible to understand the package came back but is incomplete no

dimensions locking on the seekers if you place the building both a non-dimension space anyone that requests this includes the relationship to the rear yard which no dimensions and to the relation to the property line to the neighborhoods to the respect to the garage on the northeast corner no dimensions out of the required four elevations it is front and rear. (the following proceedings were held in open court, outside the presence of the jury:) we only have two, that makes it impossible to understand the building whoever might be having comments i'm not taking siding it is the relationship of the elevation particularly how it

effects the neighbors to the west and north regarding the plan overhang on the wear or rare to the north the drawings explicit express how the offer hang t is supported i'll suggest that what is in front of of us is not expressive enough to make an educated decision for and against it i'm not taking a position on the drawings are incomplete. >> commissioner richards. >> i second what commissioner moore said this is a day by day jaw view the caller said i have questions on the drawings in order to get a fair hearing i'll recommend postponement until

july 9th. >> if we've got trouble with drawings somehow bring it up it seems to be an issue just to let people noting know not to be here. >> there's been communication between the plant and planner so the planner brought to the participants attendance the drawings are incomplete on the website that is clear of what is expected it spells it out to the eye. >> to be clear. >> so the drawings came this morning i looked at them on the fly because they came in at 9:30 or 10 o'clock is this complete or accurate at this moment was having basically secretary

normally have to have the drawings a week before we're responding to it with the few hours notice i'll not make the comment the drawings are incomplete and this commission shouldn't liken to dr we don't understand don't have the understanding. >> before we hear this item are we allowed to continue it before when we meet. >> you could yes. >> okay without discussing it maybe we should have done >> next time if i have questions my apologies for making people wait. >> is there any public comment on this item? >> only on the matter of the continuance