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s of driving, the disruption technology corporations the taxis are out numbered by more than 8 to 1. also, uber and the other tnc's cannot be discerned from any other private car as we've already found out, you can buy the markings of an uber or a lift vehicle and put it in your car and thereby try to get around the rules. tnc drivers are not trained, i know this for a fact, they're not trained, the only training they do have is how to operate the app, that's training they're not trained to drive and negotiate through the cities of san francisco or anywhere else they operate, the tnc's are impacting our san francisco traffic, they're making taxi fares higher for the people who do still use taxis because we have to drive in the congestion where we're out numbered by 8 to 1 and this is counter to the city of san francisco's goal for traffic reduction. all the work that you all do
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to try to reduce traffic congestion, you undermine it by giving any sort of preference to uber and lift. please do not let the tnc's have any preferabler treatment to market street or any of our major corridors and i also ask that you enforce the muni and taxi zones because i'm having to negotiate around private car that is are in those clearly marked zones that are reserved for buses and taxis. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> my name is dit gadra i'm the owner of medallion 646, the uber and lift says we are equal, we applied for city permit and we paid the million dollar insurance, we paid $825 a month and 975 and they're
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operating the same opportunity with us how can i compete with that? unlimited and we are in the limit. and we [inaudible] and safety and on market street and please pay attention to the uber, they are unlimited, no license, no commercial license, no insurance, nothing, please help us. thank you. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> good afternoon, my name is colvant, i'm a cab driver in san francisco for the past 16 years and i do support your vision zero, i think not only market street is very dangerous street at this time, it has to be very safe and it's a very popular street. of course there are many other streets which are not safe and that this market street safe should be extended as well
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from -- not from 3rd to 8th, it should be extended in the future the paul street is very dangerous at certain points market and van ness is also making a right for everyone it's very dangerous too i support the vision and please do not bend against any pressure and once again i would like to bring the uber issue again being a cab driver i would like to tell they are not the same as -- they are basically 21st century pie rats, they are illegal, they can't operate -- they have opportunity to operate legally but they tend not to operate legally, so they are contagious basically right now, they are like e ebola right now you can go to certain gas stations and they'll pay you 50 dollars, and anybody can start driving, no training no nothing. i was coming from the
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airport, i was driving on 3rd street, the guy, i don't know which company he was with, he made from the middle left on third street on to market, very dangerous might now like maybe a couple of hours ago, i was sit, i don'tbacker won't mention all my intentions in front of you, please contain uber/lift tnc, they have a right to operate legally, they are not operating legally. please do something about it. it's not going to be safer until they are everywhere. thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> good afternoon, my name alys maji, i'm a member of walk sf and i sit on the bicycle advisory committee, my focus here today is transit. market street as you know is home to -- it's one of the
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busiest corridors for muni bus lines so these transit only lane and is these automobile restrictions will not only improve transit times on market street but ripple throughout the rest of the city and of course these changes will be completely watered down if tnc's are allowed to be exempt. ride sharing is of course an important part of transportation in san francisco right now but these vehicles are also a maouj source of transit congestion and pedestrian conflict. we're ams -- we are eager to see the safe market street project go through and we want to thank you for that but we're eager to see the better market street project go through. market vaoet is only so wide so different sustainable transit stakeholders will have to collaborate on that vision while the perfect layout for market street is still unclear, one thing is certain and that means that we need to reduce private vehicle traffic on market street. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please.
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>> ( calling speaker names ). >> hi, mad lin savit i would like to underscore the majority, what seeps to be the majority comment here today in favor of the market street plan and also better market street plan, it's a major corridor in this city and it's continued revitalization is essential and i am certain would help spread the vitalization of the economy broader and more in the city. all other points have already been addressed. i would like to talk about behavior as there have been several comments that point to particular users road users i would like to say that we all share blame for some core behavior but we are talking about relative danger and the danger of course is with the biggest, heaviest vehicles. i was sitting at a division 0
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task force meeting where representative to the taxi industry volunteered to me that he knows many of his drivers are angry this is a reality there's no one person who has a corner on the market of mischievous behavior with regard to -- sorry i lost my train of thought. yes there should be no exemption also for the plan and that's it. i think it's all been said. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> good evening and 7-11, 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. should be banned but east side, west side should be banned because
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of -- there's more efficient for your muni s*frs because the muni driver have to fight on the street with all the car o market street all the time, we're taxi, we can take the right hand lane, leave [inaudible] to the mini drive use it if i can use online to organize 20 thousand gang member and remote control them to keep out the police from [inaudible] and then tell them we have the police now, call the main office, give all e me all the budge for the police, i charge 20% myself and give 80% to the gang member, the city would be a lot more safer, absolutely with vision 0 because we have technology, police would take care of the whole city. we don't need any law. why we need a wlau? why we need a gun? power come from the gun, not in america, i hope that not in america so far. i go to sleep very soon to
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2024, when i woke up everything will be 0, everything 0, not only death. i hope everything's still left in this country. this is about our value this is about america, because i'm asian, chinese, that's why my value and thinking way is different than you because you are white people that grew up with one culture. i have three culture in my background, i hope i can sleep until 2024, why they said 2024? because nobody can count it, 2024, people are died, they don't know what happened today in the city, what we are talking about, that's why the politician making the propaganda, but we have to play with the politicians otherwise -- because they are powerful, they have a lot of you know, i don't want to say about that. thank you. >> thank you, okay. next speaker, please. >> ( calling speaker names ). if there's anyone left in
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room 408 if you would make your way to room 400 and if you would like to speak and you have not turned in a speaker card, we would appreciate it if you would do so now. >> i told you to stop uber lift and cite cars from market street please make some extension this is like a short road, you start from the [inaudible] to van ness street and 10th street between market and mission street, they are all lined up outside of the uber office and [inaudible] we can't make a left turn, it's so dangerous. and the [inaudible] on market street wait for calls that's not safer. i think you totally ban or prohibit these uber lift cars from market street and not only that, there's so many streets, california streets, cable car is over there and they park, cable car will
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never go around, [inaudible] they sit there and [inaudible] where we go? we have to sit behind these people they open the left door and people get out from the left door, we don't hit them. that's the way how the transit uber driver, they never give them special training but these uber guys, what are they doing, they have a big piggy bank that never gets filled, people can't afford to take a taxicab, they are so cheap, i think i am live ining the poorest country in the world where people cannot afford to take a cab. so, other thing is [inaudible] street [inaudible] we cannot go around, we cannot give service to the people, throw these mosquitoes out from the city, they are for their election, they're funding the
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governor brown he's actor he's saying i'm taking taxicab, he's loving the uber. please stop this uber. >> next speaker. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> my name is tommy abib. you're talking about safety in the city, the city invites more cars to work in the city more commercial buses which has never happened before, food truck amazon truck google trucks, and now we're talking about safety. i think we need to start looking to bank account from the mayor to each one of you and then we can have more
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safety. and then the homeless is part of the problem on market street because a lot of tourists, some other people, my wife, my girlfriend, no can be walking on market street this is the homeless don't want to go around the homeless so they cross in the middle of the street, i think you need to start looking into that too. >> next speaker, please. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> hi, my name's matt brazina, i want to thank you and i think market vaoet is an opportunity to make a statement about the future of sustainability and a healthy san francisco, we're letting 12 thousand per year in this city so i want to see how we're going to scale sustainability transportation, i cannot walk by bike or walk on the 801 or the 880 so there is precedent against setting
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aside certain roads that are used by certain transportation. i probably spend more time on market street than almost anybody, i travel it by bicycle, sometimes i run, sometimes i take the f if i feel like going slowly or take the underground. i think all private vehicles when i say private vehicles that includes one with a driver in it that looks yellow should be restricted from market street, i'm fine with us starting now restricting uber and other vehicles we're going to restrict taxis as well and leave it to bicycles, pedestrians, a bus, trolley, tla's the way they do it in the best cities of the world that's how we should do it here. >> thank you. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> good afternoon, i'm a little concerned about these
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passenger zones, no wonder lift supports these measures you're giving them free cab stands are they going to pay for these stands? we pay for ours, don't we? and the tnc's that are commercial, are they going to be paying for these lanes like we do? that's what heeley brought up, there's the issue of fake tcp numbers, they can put fake numbers on their plates, one of the people brought up safety these uber and lift passenger that is are running all over the place all over the street, you have to dodge these people all the time. also something i've addressed too is bikes in the muni lane, tla's on 3rd street lane now but you have to pay attention that that doesn't happen on market. the tnc's also the fact that they have no trade dress how are you going to be able to
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distinguish them from other private vehicles and do you have a plan for enforcement? and montgomery, between bush and market, i think you need to consider eliminating park ining the evening. it is a mess, you cannot get down that street and there's parking on both sides of the street and i mean, it's not daytime anymore, maybe there's some office cleaners so it may be one random car that's holding up both of those lanes and the traffic is really bad in the other two lanes so i wish you would consider the to eliminate parking between bush and market in the evenings it would be very helpful, it's very congested there. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> hi name's irene and i'm a
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cab driver and i've been drive ining san francisco for 11 years and this is my third year as a licensed taxi driver i'm second generation, i had a woman cab driver in my family in russia. i wanted to speak out in support of this measure. one thing that i haven't heard said in here is that the red lanes i find have been extremely useful. i've been able to drive in san francisco as a cab driver when i see that read lane, it's pretty exciting ask it's fun, so anything that you can do to make taxi driving on market street as a lot safer also i wanted to mention that out of those 16 thousand possibly 22 thousand tnc vehicles that are in the bay area, you have no idea how many of those are tcp licensed so we don't know how many of those will be able to be on market street as commercial vehicles so even if all of them get licensed that will be a huge, huge
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burden on market street, and the other concern i have is you knower, of course this is in the future, but safe market street but there's also safe folk street, safe 11th street safe castro street, there's a lot of areas faked -- affected by this. >> ( calling speaker names ). those are the last people who have turned in speaker cards. >> good afternoon, barry kargo, i want to point out to the lift people who are saying we should all be treated the same, fine, let's let the tnc's start paying business taxes and fees that taxis have to pay and follow the same rules that we have to pay. we've always been limited to a certain number of drivers, we right now have around 2 thousand drivers, this is compared to tens of thousands of driver drivers as stated by the lift representative and 16 thousand uber drivers.
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there's a big difference. these people are coming all over the state as brown mentioned in his column, his uber comes from san diego to here. these drivers are not trained, they're making crazy turns. if you allow them on market street then what's the point of having this rule. they don't want to have commercial plates, they're supporting a bill in sacramento that would say they don't have to register the vehicles commercially yet they want all the benefit of being a commercial vehicle. they're more dangerous than cabs also because when you flag a cab, the cab pulls over right in front of you, you flag a cab that's going our direction these tnc's the people are running across the street and they don't know which vehicle is theirs because they all look the same and how would you enforce this because as people mentioned before, you can get these logos off the internet and at&t park just had a lift day
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where they're giving out pink mustaches that they were giving out, frankly i don't think you should ban these vehicles from market street, i think you need to ban them from san francisco. [applause]. >> ( calling speaker names ). those are the last three speakers. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon [inaudible] and i think that we should have a rule to where we don't play games with taxicab drivers because all of us are supposed to be a taxicab driver and [inaudible] where the location was at and they was trying to deny the fact that i was going to be a taxicab driver and
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[inaudible] education and you're allowed at 6 o and i have a license from pennsylvania saying you could be a driver, so i'm going to show that to them and makes sure this gets processed they have different bus routes that need to be changed to where the [inaudible] wouldn't be so busy in part of the areas and i think that's where the problems are and having so much construction going on with that with muni and to make some other levels and bart trains to where it
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would be easier on a lot of our traffic situations, and i had built some houses back in 2006 and i was wondering whao*i what happened to those houses that i turned in. i never did get to explain [inaudible] my houses because i turned it in and they didn't give it back to them and they said i could build it and i thought i would wait for a while and i hope [inaudible]. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> ( calling speaker names ). >> good afternoon. >> hi, my name is pat love lock and i'm boned and raise ined the bay gayer and i've live ined san francisco for the last 140 plus years. i hate to say it but my new vision plan for me is don't go out of the house unless
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absolutely necessary and it's sad for me because i chose to live here, i put my time into this city, i've been on committees, paratransit xhao*en committees, i vote and do what i'm supposed to do but i cannot go anywhere it seems without being fearful of being hit by a car, hit by a bicycle rider and i have been hit by a bicycle rider and it is dangerous to me. when you're 20 it may not be so bad but when you're a senior and have disabilities, it is really dangerous. also i don't like feeling every time that i come out of my house i've got to be a bobble head, i have to constantly look to avoid all these things, bicycles everywhere, the cars turning which way, we have the uber drivers jamming in front of
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other cars so you're in trouble and i have to say if you're going to put these white zones which sounds like it's reasonable, you need enforcement. that is a big word disz -- dismiss ining the city when it comes to traffic, you have to have enforcement as it is now i can no longer take the bus down market street because google buses and tour buses and everybody blocks the bus stops, i think 311, muni knows me so well, i report every bus everything, i write down the number, i ask for feedback, we don't get it, and this is one of those things where in this city, you got to start enforcing things or it's too dangerous to everyone. >> thank you. >> the last speaker, richard mcgoo. >> hi my name is richard mcgoo, yellow cab driver. i agree with everything
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that's been said about the plan to close off market for turns and restricting uber, restricting non-commercial vehicles. i want to make a few points on enforcement. taxis have when e we have to stand at cal train we sa to go to the white zone there. other vehicles are in there, there are no police enforcing against tnc's if we make a u turn, we get a ticket, that's rev -- revenue for the city, good, but there's no other enforcement, it's selecting. another issue is police along market street, it would take ten policemen at each intersection to control those intersections to make sure -- to really reduce the number of accidents. when they closed 10th street at first there were police there for several months making people turn, then the police have gone, people are
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just going on market across 10th street, when this first flush of excitement passes, uber, lift, all these cars will be going down market street again. another question is the mayor, your boss, pointing several of you on friday and saturday he's going to be having a mayor's conference and he's going to be showing these mayor's the great success of san francisco which is uber. i had a passenger in my cab who told me his mother who was a prominent social lithe in san francisco who was told by willie brown that uber gave his campaign mayor ed lee five million dollars. another question is -- sorry. >> thank you. okay. anyone else care to address
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the board? seeing none, the pub lek -- public hearing of the board will be closed. members of the board wla's -- what's your pleasure. >> if there's anyone else, please turn them in. >> hi, my name is tara, i'm a cab driver in san francisco and i've lived in san francisco for 13 years and i've been driving in san francisco for several years and i think that allowing uber and the rest of the same model of businesses on market street is a terrible idea. the drivers are untrained, they are not commercially insured and they are -- if you could see the footage from my dash cam, just on any given day or night you hadbacker you would see there's hundreds of illegal u-turns, sop ins
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the middle of taxi lanes and people driving staring with their phone in their face going straight through stop signs, making illegal turns market street is dangerous but like someone else said before so is polk street, 11th street castro, all of the major places especially at night when you're a night driver all of the nightlife places we call it uber jam because there are so many tens of thousands of them in the city on any given night and it makes my job really stressful. i'm avoiding accidents constantly, many per hour, and i think that giving them passenger loading zones is -- i mean, where is the money coming from to do that, they're not paying any money to be register ined the city. we're paying for taxi zones they're not paying for anything, and so i think that there should be enforcement of
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our taxi zones, keep them out of our taxi zones and cab stands if you're going to try to regulate. thank you. >> thank you. >> this public hearing is closed ot this point there are no more speakers. >> thank you, ms. hunter or mr. mcguire, do you want to come back up? thank you. so, i just want to touch a little bit on as we talked about before, this is part of vision 0, this is our safety thing. i think what we heard from the public is just great support of increasing safety on market street everybody recognizes that these proposals definitely will do this. i think as i've spoken to people about this over the past couple of weeks the big thing that comes up is enforcement and i know you've laid out temporary enforcement measures, extra pco's and police officers everybody's experience with the forced right turn on 10th has been that it works well right
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after about of enforcement but perhaps it doesn't work so well two or three weeks after enforcement, do you want to talk about what we plan to do enforcement-wise going forward? >> sure, so immediately after implementation, with we go out in a partnership between the pco's and the sfpd to provide some on the spot enforcement that would extend for about two weeks after the implementation is complete. these intersection ares unique because particularly third fourth fifth these intersection are controlled by pco's from anywhere from 4-10 hours a day, there are pco's performing normal traffic control duties who will have the secondary effects of breaking the rule that is we posted so they're unique compared to 10 street in that sense. the other thing i want to emphasize the way we designed the streets and stripe
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