this thing went away i know the sheriff's department staff is less than it was at a time too. >> for clarity i don't know if this is a question for you who's responsibility to transport prisons once the department has arrested and taking them to the station to is the responsible is it the police department or the sheriff's department. >> it is our responsibility until someone else arrivals us of the responsibility in the past we would have the prison like at the hospital until a doctor decided the person was not limited to we'll let the sheriff's department know they'll relieve us he and we'll take the person's property down to the county jail basically in you have the person you're responsible for the safety until

your rivals. >> explain why the police officers are sitting with prisons at san francisco general they're in our custody as if we can get them cleared and booked into county jail. >> you've not released them at this point. >> not until wore relieved by the sheriff's department or the doctor says they're okay to debook then we book them. >> how are you able to transition how is that possible to be able to transition that individual if they've not necessarily been booked how can you transfer the booking one the comments it will be better if we had the ability to allow the

sheriff deputies to serve and wait for the prison at san francisco general hospital all these basically the person stays at the hospital and the sheriff's stay with the prison at the jail ward it not open there are dba issues we take the prison not prison they stay at the time at the hospital and book them in administratively at the jail it says they're at the hospital. >> okay. >> okay thank you. >> supervisor yee. >> thanks for the presentation chief suhr i'm really have appreciated our departments and the work around vision zero and so the question i have would

be pertaining to the pedestrian safety as you ramp up our staffingship in terms of staffing the traffic company and within the districts stations assigned to enforce the traffic violations. >> so the himself obviously the traffic improvement will go way up we're down 3 hundred offices those 3 hundred officers work 3 thousand shifts the company will be full staffed approximately 60 percent of the traffic ask that is decentralized they'll have traffic officers in addition inform all the staffing being bumd up most of them by more than 10 to 15 percent. >> i have a question around how

are you insuring that your equipment and vehicles budget is adequate? and you may be more specifically motorbikes. >> we have a certain amount of motorbikes it will go a long way to get us where we need to go. >> what would it take to i guess i'm asking this question because there are in particular 10 hours a day and this is difficult for a police vehicle car to get from point a to b to a scene and it seems like a motorbike is more practical. >> yeah. you can get places

more quickly on a motorbike but the priority the motorcycles do traffic and the foot beat officers are the ones that respond to a call if it is a organization call we're pretty good to make that person safe our response time is less than 5 minutes. >> i have a question in regards to the body cameras i know you have three staff members that are 3 lawyers i guess that will be included in your staffing. >> they're assigned to police legal but not lawyers people that process requests for freedom of information and the sunshine requests. >> i was thinking. >> no all freedom of

information like the sunset goes through the police unit those are not necessarily lawyers. >> that sound logical having 3 more lawyers this is logical in regards to over time can you give me an overview of the over time in fiscal years years. >> your offer time is half what it was in 2007 8 and in 2007 it was $23 million in the last 4 years it's been under $11 million it is going to bump up a little bit in 2014-2015 because of the sheer amount of events in the next fiscal year combined with the fact that we're going to have so many officers assisting in the

training of academy class but we only need the over time for that. >> so sort of moving forward because of the accelerated hiring. >> it is hard to get it much less down if you think about it in 2008, and 2009, 10 there was the last time we were near full staff we were responsible for the over time especially the basketball team wins the world series every year and we've been down 3 hundred officers over the same period green empty i think the officers have done a lot so we'll continue to be responsible thato have. >> thank you. i think the city

residents appreciate that. >> okay supervisor mar i wanted to appreciate that slides on the offer time you've shown over the past years the - it is 10.4 or $10.7 million up to $13 million no over time the rational the number of academy classes and officers but can you explain the $3 million or the $2.3 million increase from 2013-2014 for this year. >> again, we're planning we have that 3 hundred officers down; right? we're hiring the maximum amount of academy and the officers have to train them and the events in the fiscal

year require those to be staffed up without taking away officers from the neighborhood it is a balancing act we don't want to go over and have do come back we're trying to ask for what we believe we need and stay within that budget. >> i know that supervisor avalos couldn't be here he had questions about the body camera allowance in the budget and i guess i wanted to you know you've gone over on slide 14 about the two year budget $6 million over two years could you just walk us through the one time costs and the ongoing storage and maintenance costs that year by year after the one time costs. >> the cameras are one thousand dollars a piece so 18 hundred camera is $1.8 million and then

the cost of the storage is about another one thousand dollars per camera we wouldn't need it for the first year it would be here the whole fiscal year but it is pretty easy to fourth one thousand dollars a year roughly for that storage and the camera and need the staff to support that the one uncanyon e known that many agencies have a number of cameras the amount of freedom of information in the sunset request the privacy concerns on the cameras in order to redact a pager you write other words in order to protect the ancestry child a sexual assault victim you have to redictate every frame so as we get into this we

want to make all our due dates with regards to the compliance with the requests it is a bit unknown the volumes of requests my guess in san francisco it could be significant. >> and then you already mentioned the body camera working group that involves a number of stakeholders departments and representatives is the contract with the will body camera going to be expenditurely bid. >> yes. >> those will be looked at by your staff area working groups is there any thinking of the time perhaps keeping the data less for a short period of time or using in house data servers versus a vendor so for that

storage. >> the answer all that will be secondary right now the cost of having it contracted out appears to be significantly lower than if we kept it in house. >> i know that supervisor avalos office and the aclu have been in contact with you over the ordinance i don't have the details can you talk about the discussions with the aclu more of oeblts over the surveillance concerns. >> the police commission tests e sets the policy and the aclu was visited invited hoping they'll make their concerns and the police commission will kelly whitcraft set the body camera policy and give that the considerations it deserves to

everyone is comfortable. >> has there been k from last year they started the conversation we were looking at a small pilot project with train the strong training system but now we've jumped up to 18 hundred cameras any options of sharing of cameras so we're not purchasing them for every single officer as a way of utilizing them and also making sure we are cutting costs as much as possible. >> the best practices the officers are responsible for their camera for the maintenance also after the cameras are used they have to download and it takes hours to download as i understand when an officer comes off watch so while the camera is

downloading the other officer go out with their camera and and each gaining is how much autopsy one thousand dollars that's what the budget is. >> i wanted to shift to say i think that is this is just shift footing to the cadet class it a great program i'm appreciative we were looking to expand to 57 cadets and the private donors for the next 3 years in 2013 we have 3 academy classes and last year 4 and this year 5 i'm supportive of getting up to the mandate numbers within the department i know how for the academy classes are you wanted to connect up the academy classes with the train that is involved i know we had the long

hearing the phobic texts within the department and erecting had ms. hicks to the aclu and trainings and systems the department is looking at racial bias and not only in the academy classes but also in field training and other ways to insure we're moving towards a bias free department i know that is systemic in many ways can you talk about the concrete trains and the systems we have to address potential systemic bias within the department. >> sure for starts all captains and above in the police department including myself i s had boys training we all have

bias whether or not we're police officers or not and basically try to recovery from that, we have racial profiling classes and academy on the ongoing advances officers were in service training we'll try to find an explicit bias trainer not cost extensive in addition to a variety of other training and bring in a bias for the dna lab and the objective application we have the longest academy in the state of california we continue to doing everything we can to make sure that we guard against bias and as we can practically to get us to that

place. >> from my memory years ago communities united in existence bias the human rights and the aclu i guess the police accountability to work with the department to buildal systemic program but i'm not sure if so is last year or is year before are you saying we've replaced the training. >> post certified grant we've brought that back. >> could you provide the information about those types of training that is helpful on thursday we're going having a followup hearing on the bias and text messaging on the systemic issues within the police department could you employed as much of the training that would

be helpful to understand what replaced those grants and we have similar strong programs with the community-based institutions to guide some of the training. >> certainly we pay for that out of the general fund budget. >> is the implicit bias for the captains is that similar to the human right commission that started with different departmental heads. >> the implicit yes. >> is that the using the same consultants that the human rights commission staff developed. >> yes. >> that's an unanimous train for the captains and our department heads. >> we did that this year she was terrific kimberly they e she was really, really good but she's just her so we have to

find some sort of a either a train trainer type of program or more ongoing because she wouldn't be able to do it at the degree we want it done. >> is that implicit bias train built into our budget or a one-time thing. >> we're talking about next years budget we don't have additional budget but a train budget we will do that train with i have to find the trainer or the training. >> you how much does that budget item how much do you know. >> she was 5 thousand dollars for 4 hours. >> i need to find somebody less expensive. >> kate howard our mayors

budget director. >> kate howard through the chair in addition the police work the chief described the proposed budget is additional bias train that funding is in the department of human resources you heard that on monday and director callahan will be working with the human rights commission and the police department and other front line departments to develop that training and figure out the best way deploy it to do a widespread. >> this is my last question involving is seems like the school district and police officers or sro program you'll be increasing inform full capacity of that program my guess a new mou with the police

department if that hadn't been done. >> it is signed. >> i know the police commission has a train with community-based groups to create better restrictions and trust between young people and police officers are those types of ongoing there was a community from boston a couple years ago with the mrorgsz and some of our top level staff is that the community relations training built into our budget. >> i will bring you on thursday the kinds of things we do with young people it should be a meeting by itself. >> if you can i'd like to talk about that more on thursday. >> thank you. >> supervisor wiener. >> thank you mr. chairman at the chief for the presentation today

i have a couple of comments on the staffing level i know wore in agreement anything we can do to make the use of current staffing levels whether it is having help if it ain't broken, don't fix it from the sheriff to watch in custody of the prisons at san francisco general hospital more officers other than that this is terrific i think someone if an officer moves back from a deck job that goes up towards 1971 all those things are terrific i think it is important to really keep a broad prospective how deep in the hole we are in terms of police staffing and that even i know there is some civiliantion to do more getting the she was involved

with watching people at the hospital that's a piece of the hole we're in this one thousand 9 hundred number plus was set in the chapter in 1994 by the heard about this in monday but it was frrmentd in the early 80s. >> it was in the early 80s. >> not a 20-year-old but a thirty-year-old number we were actually 2 hundred thousand people in terms of the population so san francisco population has gone up by 13 percent since 94 or 25 percent upwards that 1971 we begin as staffing it is outdated in terms of the city we have a hundred

thousand people growth in the last decade 2 hundred thousand since the 80s we have bigger neighborhood more intensity and jobs more of everything more traffic enforcement so many more cars in the city so it is just great we are have this current staffing plan to get back up to 1971 we should have been all along, of course, this resolution pend dating the population and how parolee we compare to other cities and all those things we actually need to set a higher goal and at least 22 hundred that is detriment a number of years ago they suggested 23 hundred really important as the city keeps growing that we not just say, i

know you're not saying this but okay get to 1971 and we'll take a deep breath and reduce the number of academy classes and retain them to 1971 that's not going to cut it it really is interesting i mean to me to listen to the debates at the board of supervisors i'm going to bet my lunch 11 out of lovingly supervisors say please we need more police officer in police officers in the neighborhood we hear it all the time i'm willing to bet every supervisor at one point say please we don't see enough police officers we need more beat officers we need more officers yet at the same time, we have some supervisors that

continue to argue that we don't need more officers that is one of quote/unquote the police officers don't prevent crime as the baffling is important to look at the big picture where we are as a city and the needs and make sure that we take a a long time strategy view keeping in mind we should always be looking for the tints whether working with the sheriff's department or civilian in his that will never get up to heed of officers we need to fill this hole. >> i appreciate our comments and you'll get to keep our lunch pretty sure everyone agrees with you. >> you you know you can't have their cake and eat it, too and can't say i want more police

officers in pie district and calling the captain saying please get beat officers and get more beat officers and come into this building and say police officers don't prevent crime we don't need more police officers. >> i will agree the shipyard we do alice griffith as mission bay continues to go vertical or the treasure island becomes built out those areas don't have a police presence it will have to be additional officers that will be responsible because no matter wholly we'll do the best we can the mayor decides is right and the electorate. >> supervisor mar. >> i wanted to respond to

commissioner lee's comments yes our working police officers is doing everything we can but we are balancing the budget law enforcement and public safety and human safety we're at a country i don't know if anyone sees the growth wealth gap and suffering and i think security and displacement going on we need definitely need to be fulfilling the may or may not that the voters and communities have set but i want to insure we're spending our money wisely if we're increasing the officers they're going deployed as chief suhr explained to places their need from the zone stream strategy to other strategies i see a huge acceleration of the

previous goals to reach the 1971 the acceleration of the alleged year faster than before i see a fifth academy class from 2 years ago i see a definitely a very solid budget from the police department but as the budget analyst looked at we're spending our money willows i know that crime has gone down that's the data shared with our office over the past years and police officers rise with the use of body cameras and other technology policing is done in a more effective way so you don't need as many officers you needed 20 or thirty years ago so i want a discussion that is balancing human safety net needs with law

enforcement how technology changes the over time spending a concern i'll be doing any best to look at that but i appreciate supervisor wiener's comments i disagree it is not only law enforcement but another needs especially human safety net needs with the hockey's we're facing in our city. >> supervisor wiener. >> thank you, mr. chair i appreciate and respect supervisor mar's comments about when you look at the investments we've made every year both the mayor and broadway and in human services we can do more we would like to invest more resources 40 in health and nutrition and senior services all including myself has supported that and