anking behind oakland applies to our nighttime residents and daytime population which is larger because you have workers and tourists coming in >> correct. behind that p you look at the peers we're second highest in property crime when it comes to violent crime we're in the middle of the pier group. >> could you say what number wur at for violent crime sn >> where are we sn >> got it. thank you. >> the charts look the time but rear looking at staffing level for 100,000 residents and daytime population you can see we're in the middle of the group in the introduction there say wide range of staffing levels here since we didn't get into the reasons for the staffing levels we can't make a definition that we're either

under or over staffed we're just showing how we compare to other jurisdictions some of the charts the darker colors are civilians and the lighter color are sworn officers so one other way to look at the staffing mix of a police department is to look at the number of civilians to do administrative and law enforcement task we have 1.4 officers fefr every one in this group. i don't know if there is anything else you have questions on this slide. >> washington d.c. has 130 teen civilian and sworn police staff 613 for washington 440 for chicago 418 for phil dell fee yeah and we're at 239 sn

>> correct. oakland is 176 and san jose is 107 just for regional comparison. >> i wanted to make sure i understood this slide correctly according to this we're number eight in large cities in violent crime? >> i believe that is the correct. >> so d.c. which has the most police officers had the highest number of violent crimes of all large cities >> oakland. >> according to slide seven d.c. is -- oakland is actually below san francisco >> so slide seven is talking about staffing and not crime. so they look similar but slide six is crime. >> i guess then this is my question i think supervisor avalos answered it we have the

second highest in property and violent crime in large cities where cowe rate on violent crime. >> on vie atlantic crime there is six cities above us oakland is the highest i didn't incrude it in the graphic you can get that at the sf controller.org we're below chicago. philadelphia d.c. and oakland is significantly higher than other piers. do you have a question supervisor kim? >> no i thought it was a question i asked previously sorry i'm listening on multiple levels i think that is good to understand. i know one issue that comes up a lot around property crime is the wise level of income and equity compared to other cities and develops crimes for opportunity

that exists besides the number of police officers per capita >> please continue with your presentation >> i will move to slide eight we're trying to understand population density and how that might relate to sworn staffing levels that can make a big impact we're the most densely populate in the peer group but we're densely populated by sworn officers so in the day lime population per square miles you go from the left to right less to more dense and on the vertical are you looking at sworn officers ber square mile so the lower on the chart you have fewer sworn officers per square mile and higher on the chart you will have more officers per square mile you can see san francisco is to the

right which means we're densely populated we're also densely staffed per square mile we fall below the nooer trend line if you draw a line where the peer cities land on this chart we could be lower staffed than we are population. questions? >> we could be lower staffed -- say it again? >> so we're looking at population density so if we were to say that this pier average is the way we would compare ourselves we are less dense staffed per square miles for the population density we have. >> just a question maybe you talked about it before what makes the pier cities this report of pier cities? >> sure >> some of these are very, very different in terms of population

size and economic conditions as well. >> sure we have a methodology we use to select pier cities for our studies you can imagine we use different pier studies for the ones that are offered in this case we looked at daytime and resident population we looked at staffing levels we didn't want anybody too low or low and we looked at crime levels we tried to get piers in a number range from us we also add more california cities san jose and oakland not in that immediate range compared to local piers and in chicago that doesn't normally in the range but we were curious to compare against chicago. >> it's curious one of the pier cities is boston if i can think

of one of the cities that would be about the same size and density and even diversity economically of san francisco boston would be one of them. and they're like lower down on the list you will see on the chart you shared with us they're kind of slightly to the right of san francisco >> correct >> also on page six slide they're down toward the bottom in total crime in -- >> their resident crime rates are low >> yeah >> when you take into the daytime population >> they're also low there too. to me that seems like a pretty good comparison of city that are similar economically in size in population they might be slightly less population than us in boston. >> i would have to go look. i think all of the pier city

fall within the range so we don't necessarily pull out one in particular to compare ourselves against >> in the population i wouldn't say chicago and new york are in the range >> and boston i think boston's staffing is almost 50% higher per 100000 people than san francisco 328 versus our 239. >> okay. >> please continue >> great on slide nine we we're looking at here we're only using the data we received from nine jurisdictions in the survey we looked at the salary and benefits per sworn officers this includes entry level up to the chef the salary and benefits is

175,000 per year which is the highest in the group we compared a cost of living taking into account the economic benefits in the area we're third highest below austin and seattle. aye few other staff spending metrics san francisco falls in the middle of the range for overtime spending and workers come senuation is -- compensation which is third highest. >> the cost of living aspect is not of course sadly not prizing every single person all walks of life in san francisco experiences this the fact that you have a dramatic drop of a cost of living speaking values about where we are with san

francisco today i know with salary and benefits you have to rely on the surveys chshgs is a smaller group it's unfortunate the other higher cost cities have not responded the cities are dramatically lower cost than san francisco hopefully we can get them to respond and have a broader perspective >> we just got washington d.c. so we can add it to amend them >> you looked at the same year? >> fiscal year 2013-14 >> what you looked at is general funded over time or all overtime paid for including projects that are paying for awesers to be around >> i believe it was all overtime i will have to go back and check >> and i'm curious to see while

we have actually had much higher uses of over time especially by the general fund earlier 4-5 years [backup singers]:back that has been reduced i'm curious to see if the reduction is below the same our authorized strength maybe the police chief can talk about that when he's here. >> thank you. please continue >> on slide ten here these are actual costs 2014 how do we compare for salaries and benefits for sworn officers you can see arret and daytime individual we're at the top of the range so residents pay $457 per resident of san francisco for sworn benefits and salary.

another indication of workload is priority calls for service so here we just selected a and b call tell us which are the general emergency response calls for arret or someone during the day calls 911 so here we fall in the middle of the range of a and b calls per sworn officers what that would mean is each officer is responsible for fewer emergency priority a and b calls than in other cities what this doesn't take into account is not all sworn officers are responsible for responding to these calls if you would like more detail the police chief can speak to that. finally in our survey we can asked for the racial make up of police department staff what looks like a complicated slide is easy to understand.

anything above the middle line means that rational category starting in white on the left hand side there are more officers than are white than the population you can see for a police departments this is characteristics the second is latino san francisco is the only department in our survey that had slightly more hispanic officers than our population the third is asian or pacific islander that make up the second largest in the police department we're behind in the difference between our resident population. and that concludes my presentation. >> so it looks like in terms of caucasian african american latino there is a higher

percentage in the police department than in the total population with a pretty significant for asian/pacific islander a low percentage of the api >> correct a larger percentage even though it is the second large the community. >> in terms of african american and latino it's higher than the percentage of the population >> correct. >> thank you. >> do you have data on civilian levels in the population san francisco >> we have .14 officers per

civilians that is another strategy to deploy officers to the street to free staff for any given civilian staff. >> thank you. back on slide 11 i'm kind of curious about slide 11 you mentioned we have fewer officers than even say boston per i think by chart that supervisor weiner talked about we also have fewer slightly lower number of a calls per officer so if we had -- what does that data tell you? we have slightly number of priority eight calls per officers >> i would like to defer to the

police officer on this here it's telling us the number of sworn officers we have smaller number of a and b calls as a city we have fewer a and b calls >> that's how i would interpret it. >> i have a quick question for you what stood out to me is the significant amount of moneys in police hours in special events do you have any idea what proportion are reimbursed for events and what amount we're allowed to cover? >> one second. so san francisco does have a program in place where we contract with other agencies to provide police services that are directly reimbursed the police department has to cover a lot of

events that do not fall under that program i think the police department can can speak to this program i don't have the numbers with me what the law enforcement services budget is. for this analysis the police department did come up with an estimate we're trying to understand what might be those costs for the events that are no reimbursed for fiscal year 2013-14 it was estimated again this would require additional deeper analysis there were about 36,600 additional hours at a cost of $2.9 million. which is above and beyond those law officer services that are contracted out to the giants. >> supervisorer weiner? >> it's interesting we have through the 10-b program when

possible and appropriate we're going to requiring them to do ten b for aren't the giants games and larger especially for profit events it is interesting actually a sad statement about the lack of police staffing that one large event in a day can pull in so many police resources that you have other parts of the city like my district or supervisor cohen or supervisor tang's district that have truly the minimum police staffing at the time that is sort of scary it's the public safety version of what happens when all of the muni light rails are pulled down to the part of the city on game day and we don't have lrv's or few on the western half of san

francisco. so it's a very real issue whatever the solution is in terms of requiring more ten b or that kind of cost recruitment the fact is if there are physically not enough officers there >> available to staff a large event and -- oh, by the way provide public resources for the rest of the city, that is a dramatic problem in my view that is a statement not a question. >> thank you mrs. mehal the next spooeker and presentation will be chief sir. i also want to recognize we got representatives from the chef's department chair as well who will have the opportunity to address this body and the public on any of the topics discussed today.

one quick question before as the chief prepared mrs. mehaul quick question does your report -- do you solicit staffing for other agencies or is the just the police department >> for benchmark studies? >> correct >> we have previously looked at a number of departments we looked at health compared to other jurisdictions i will have to see the last time we looked at staffing you can find the reports sf controller controller.org/performance for our series. >> thank you chief. welcome back to the committee. >> good afternoon thank you for having me. i think it's important -- we prepared a power point if i can get it up that is going to speak to where we are so a lot of the

questions the committee has asked where we are right now i would tell you i would echoes the comments you made earlier i heard everywhere i go when do we get more police officers i appreciate this board supporting the mayor and staffing plan back in 2012 had you not done what you did would be far worse debt now and we can beat that ambitious goal by a year. with that this lays out if it moves -- it moved. >> there we go. >> this lays out where we are with regard to sworn staffing in 2009 airport.

supervisor weiner addressed things not including ffrment mla long term disabilities on and on. >> i'm sorry madame chair we have conversations >> i'm a translation >> so the gold bars are where we are. as we are right now in 2015 we are some where just above the 1668 number that we were at the end of june in 2014 striking a balance if you would between retirement and hiring. >> i'm sorry there has been confusion about the numbers. so this says in terms of full duties sworn that is officers available to do police work in the seven by seven not at the airport it says 1668. i heard the number 1730.

can you clarify that? >> the 1730 would be where we're at at the time you asked that question in early june. june is our highest retirement month because it's the end of the fiscal year so right now that 1730 number is around 1700 even. and rounds down. >> so we have 1700 officers available for duty? >> yes. >> in terms of the higher number can can you explain what is not counted towards that approximately 1700 police officers? >> there are usually between a fluid number of 200-250 officers, at any point in time overtime not on full duty they're limited duty not at work

at all or not out on the streets at this time. >> so for example if someone's on some sort of leave or disability or suspended or for whatever reason there is not able -- >> exactly. >> that also is the airport >> that is all collusive the darker gray number is the full duty officers many that bar chart >> thank you. >> the next chart shows where we are with regard to calls for service and full duty staffing if you look at the sal id line at the top that is 1971 you can can see we have not been at that number or close since 2009 and decidedly lower than that number since my time as chief. i think it's important and i know supervisor kim is asking questions about cry lent crime the last time we were at a dip

like this is the mid 2000 where sadly we were upwards around 100 homicides a year and 100 shootings i with have commend the men and women in the lead ip ship behind me our focus is on violent crime and we have been able to have both of those numbers our average is closer to 150 than 200 which is far more thanes we should be experiencing and shootings closer to 200 however many it's too many for us to be having but it has been our focus you can see as the calls for service has gone up that is consistent with the amount of people in san francisco that goes up over 800,000 people meanwhile the number of officers to answer those calls for service has

steadily declined to around 1700. the next slide is going to speak to our priority a calls for service. again you will notice the full duty sworn number goes down 14% at the same time the population has gone up 13% the priority eight calls has gone up 4,000. and ri response time having less officers to respond to the calls is up almost a minute. that being the case just under a minute. >> so priority eight are the most serious -- >> right those are in progress violent crimes we need a police officer now. >> in 2009 the response time was on average three minutes and 49 seconds today it's four minutes 48 seconds?

>> yes. again i know -- i have said it many times you don't arrest your way out of crime but a detorrent to crime is whether or not you will be caught so that extra minute is whether or not we can make an arrest or not. >> there are statements today even perhaps suggesting that there is really no linkage between the number of police officers available and crime levels or crime detorrents prevents crimes many things prevent crime including housing and education all the things we need to make successful people in our community in terms of giving them the tools they need. can you comment on this motion that police staffing levels really just don't have any relation to crime levels or

crime detorrents? >> i would agree with the comments that education is a tremendous priority for us in the police department that the number of people falling into victim crime are not graduating from high school that is focus of this department anybody that is called for a police officer said they got there sooner than they wanted is untrue most people think it's taking too long but this chart lessers -- officers is a huge deterrent to crime where people can walk up the pers study was referenced that spoke to more officers than 2200 they factored in the community engagement time the

amount of time the officers have to engage the public to talk to them to explain sit weighings provide direction give crime prevention tips around security as the light it contributes all and all to a better feelings of security. the next slide speaks to b priorities. again the staffing going down. there is an anominee you will see it on the b and the c priority when it pops up there say significant up tick to 2013-14 that is when the new some pewter dispatch kicked in 911 captured the data significantly. we're trying to figure that significant up tick you can can see property crime is up and the b response times are up a minute

half those are lesser accounts that just occurred need a police officer we're still under nine minutes that's a long time waiting for a police officer. as you can see on c priority calls we sea another up tick significant up tick from 13-14 >> i'm sorry to interrupt you -- can you define an a priority call from a b and c.? >> a priority called just a aoccurred with a suspect maybe there is an injury that call will get you a call less than five minute a b priority call hey i just returned to my car something is gone i can't find somebody. somebody's missing whatever then if the question is