to demand justice. in regard to data collection, we are here to demand justice in regard to texting scandal and all the other scandal that have rocked the criminal justice system in san francisco. if we don't get to the root cause of these issues, these cultures that have been allowed to permeate will continue. that's why when they wrote the report on racial profiling and wrote the report about the incarceration of black men in san francisco, this has not been addressed. we are asking that you do that. the reason that it's so important is that 100 years from now, in 2115, when your great grandchildren are driving across that bay bridge. what will the sign say? will it say black

genocide or will it say black lives matter. we took that issue back. >> the -- thank you for being here deputy chief alley. thank you for having me here. my name is ally, chief deputy assigned to this bureau. i know my time is brief so i will touch upon the areas i have been asked to address. i would like to apologize for chief suhr who was supposed to be here but in light of the issues that resulted in south carolina, he was dealing with issues that may

develop. he would have loved to have been here but he's needed elsewhere. >> to talk about the investigation. the investigation is over. nine officers were ordered to appear on the matter and asked to court to stay all proceedings of the court. the superior court granted that stay. there is a hearing this monday to determine whether or not the superior court has jurisdiction over the 9 cases. we are more than happy to return to provide further updates on the status of the court proceedings in closed session under the pending litigation exception to the extend that any issues are considered personal matters, we are required to comply with confidentiality requirements. i want to also give an update on the issue of implicit bias

awareness. we all as human beings have a level of implicit bias. the department has attacked this issue. most recent ly, the captain and above received training from an internationally renown expert on the issue and subject of implicit bias awareness. that training we found to be a presentation of emerging research in newer science and it revealed how unconscious processes may affect thinking. members of the command staff who attended that training which was science base and data driven found to be enlightening and thought provoking. the chief wants

where the head goes the body follows relative to biases and making sure they do not play a role on day-to-day situations they engage in. that training also was very expensive as presented. it would be definitely a hindrance to provide that. we are looking at issuing a request to proposals to tap into local resources in san francisco and the bay area of experts who are in the field of bringing awareness to implicit bias and incorporating that further into our training. lastly on the issue of data collection, the department has for years collected

data relative to traffic stops, traffic enforcement stops. the budget that is before the entire board provides for technology that would allow for the capturing of realtime demographic data and actions taken by the officers byway of the smartphones that have been a part of our tool kit. this in fact would allow for realtime reporting realtime capturing of that data so that would apply to all stops, pedestrian stops. it would also apply to field and interview card information that is done by hand at this point, by officers who fill out a form and later enter into a data base. so the idea is to bring all those things together on one platform allowing for the immediate capturing of that data as well as the

reporting. as we move into potential questions, i just want to add on one thing. when the president issued the report on 21st century policing, one of the main things that i captured from it was developing a guardian ship mind-set within law enforcement across the country. that guardian ship has been around for many years around the chief's administration particularly making sure that every officer is engaged in the community and that we recognize the future and that is our young people. that we have a stake in the centers that are a safe haven and areas that are disproportionate impacts of violence particularly in communities of color where we have officers at boys and girls club, where we have

officers at different centers that provide exclusive services to young folks. that we continue to engage the community in every aspect at district levels, at the larger level here, but to continue this mind-set that we are guardians of the city and we have a responsibility to protect it and address issues as they come forward. on that note, if you have any questions, i would love to answer them. >> i did want to start off, i did ask chief suhr at the last hearing from testimony from young activist from black lives matter and alliance groups that have formed after the tremendous upsurge in killings of not just african american about the latino and other people of color. there is a push back on the assumption that there is just a few bad apples that commit the racist texting and many of us feel that it's a

deeply embedded cultural problem within the police department that need to be addressed in a systemic way. mr. wilson mentioned whether it's youth of color and other groups within our communities. i will just ask you, do you think it's a cultural problem and systemic problem within our department in san francisco? >> i do not. and even -- >> please continue. >> i do not. and thoroughly with what direction the chief has taken, there is not a single recommendation to the policemen of removing those officers engage nd this conduct. that in and of itself sends a message to the community and the officers involved that that type of conduct has no place in

this department. secondarily, the efforts that are taking place in a very expeditious manner to ensure that we are in tune with the needs of the community by way of making certain that the biases that are in innately human are addressed and not carried forth in any type of decision making process. our level of engagement, there is a recognition that communities of color in the city, we've seen the disproportionate impact of homicides in particular. in the last five 5 years we have seen a 50% reduction in homicides. i think that is in large part because of the level of community engagement that's taking place. because of the manner in which we support the communities efforts to create

safe havens for young people. because of the relationship that we put as a priority the employment of youth through our internship programs. 90% of the youth that we employ through our internship programs are youth of color. 60% of those individuals are african american. so it's about build a relationship, it's about supporting the community and addressing the perception which i believe is not a reality. >> deputy chief, i don't want to downplay the programs for that you are doing that are good, but i know the youth commission to one of the ten 10 points of the racial committee and public defenders office has been about youth engagement and i know the police commission, when angela chen was on there had a number of sessions with experts on youth and police relations. why hasn't there been any

trainings done on youth engagement and dees escalation of police encounters especially with the recommendations that have come from the department? >> i think our general order is relative to arresting parents of youth, address those very issues. it talks about when we are arresting the parents of the youth, the procedures and the things that officers should beware. those are the part of trainings taking place. the extent of general arresting and dealing with juveniles was a collaboration of people in the community that has been in place and is the driving force on how we engage. the training that is referencing is actually not only in place, but supporting policy that hopes to minimize any negative impact that you know the arrest of a loved one will have on a young person.

minimize the arrest of a young person brought into the criminal justice system. >> thank you, i think there is probably a different interpretation from the youth commission on what the police department is doing and what the communities are urging and demanding. i wanted to ask supervisor campos wanted to follow up because his name was on the roster. >> thank you. i have a lot of respect for chief suhr. i'm grateful to him that he is talking to community right now about what happened in charleston which is just sickening to see that something like that could happen in this country. and i have a lot of respect for so many police officers who try to do what is a very difficult job to try to do the best job they can and i'm very grateful for that. but

i do have some specific questions. first of all on the issue of training around youth, we were actually, we played a role, my office played a roll in the meeting of the youth commission and police commission a number of years ago and there was a specific request to do training specifically on the interaction between youth and police. and to my knowledge, that training has not been put together at the police department. if i'm mistaken by saying that, then i would apologize, but i would give you the opportunity to give us the specifics of that training, but to my knowledge, that has not been put in place in the police department. i also want to note that at

that point when the hearing happened there was a national expert that the police commission asked to do the training that individual was doing the training for boston. we in my office did not want money to be a reason not to do the training and we actually found a foundation that was willing to pay for the training and we presented that proposal to the san francisco police department, and the police department said no, we are not interested. so i ask once again if there is evidence to the contrary that this training has happened? i'm happy to stand corrected, but to my knowledge that is not the case. the other thing that i would say and so do you have first of all before i move from that point, is there evidence to say that in fact the training has taken place? >> i'm actually vaguely familiar with

the experts involved in. as you know i have been in this business for 3 weeks now. i will have to look into it further specific to that issue. now, relative to other issues, we've had other trainings to support, collaboratively develop policies dealing with youth in our city. but specifically to the boston efforts i would have to get back on that. >> please do. i don't think it's happened otherwise we would have that information today. the second point is i do want to thank you for moving forward on the issue of implicit biased training and i'm glad the command staff is getting that. how much would it be if we wanted to do that for every police officer. do you have a sense of how much that would be? >> i don't. but i can tell you the training we received cost us in the realm of $5,000 for half a day period.

so that would be incredibly cost prohibitive relative to the entire police department. we are talking about accommodations, travel, anything to support this person coming to our city and providing the training. we believe we have the expertise in san francisco or the immediate area that we can tap into that will be as effective and less costly. >> well, i would encourage the police department to look into that and have an estimate and i will tell you where i think the chief and i have had a different perspective is that there is i think a general sense which i think is the reason why the police department did not accept the training proposal that we put forward even though we found the money to pay for it. i think there is a sense that we don't need an outsider to come and teach san francisco how to do something

like this. i understand that sentiment, but i actually think that having experts in this area from other parts of the country is useful and can be useful. if you have those experts come in and you sort of approach it from the perspective that you train the trainer, you can have those national experts and still adjust the training to reflect the realities of san francisco. so the two are not mutually exclusive. so i would encourage that you put together a proposal for how to do the implicit bias training for all officers, every single officer should get that and at least give us a sense of how much money that would cost for that to happen. because right now we are in the middle of a budget discussion at the board of supervisors, so the time to talk about cost is is now. >> i'm sorry, we are moving in

the direction of providing that. a level of training or training of implicit bias awareness to the entire department, not just the command staff and starting there. we had an expert available at the time whose schedule permitted it and we took advantage of that. it's just a matter of now identifying other experts that will be more readily available to engage in the day-to-day operations of the police department. >> do you have a time line? is there a deadline by x date we will have every single police officer have been trained on implicit bias. >> i think that requires on the engagement on who is doing the training and scheduled. i will offer to you by year-end that we have identified someone to do that training and perhaps even embarked on that training

by that time. >> well, i appreciate that, chief. i think my hope is that we have, that we try to move as quickly as possible. maybe the goal should be by the end of the year every officer should have that training and i don't know if that's possible, but i think that trying to be aggressive in terms of our timeline is really important. >> i think 1700 officers to being trained by the end of the year would be, if we want to provide them with some substantive level of training that is beyond 30 minutes, it's going to require more time than that. >> you are the expert on that, but i think whatever, however long we want to do it as soon as possible. the last thing that i would say is and i'm really grateful to the public defender for the leadership

that he has demonstrated on this issue. you know he had a presentation on 21st century police negative san francisco and there are a number of recommendations. can you speak on where the police department is relative to those recommendations and are you working with the public defender moving forward with the various recommendations that they made? >> once again i have only become recently aware of those recommendations. as you can see obviously i have to look at them. part of my responsibility is training where a regional academy throughout the bay area. there will definitely be an analysis to look at this and see where we are just as we did with the

president's 21st century report and saw the number of recommendations from the panel of experts across the country are things we have been doing for years. we'll look at this and continue this conversation. >> thank you. >> deputy chief, i wanted to say that your comment that the goal of the police department to train everyone within the department on implicit bias unconscious raises a breath of fresh air and that will be a great goal. as a budget member i will work to accomplishing that goal. when he addressed on the issue by me and other budget committee members, he mentioned nothing about training the whole staff. so it's a pleasant surprise to hear that. i think he mentioned the captain and command staff. that would be great if we can