immoral and offensive and illegal. ceilings 94 inches high that is less than 8 feet. turning back into offices is a major step backwards for the mission district and city at large. as i winced the too constant straingling of the [inaudible] we must consider what spaces like the 4th floor offer to not only individual artist but the rapidly gentifying city. we must take a stand to [inaudible] in conclusion [inaudible] i spent years creating- >> thank you, sir your time is up. sir, your time is up. >> we need our city officials to start realizing this. [inaudible] >> if you want to submit that

you can do that if you want. submit that in writing if you want. next speaker, please. >> john [inaudible] i lived in the mission on cab street and 22 for over 13 years and in san francisco for over 15. also one of the 70 plus artist displaced in the redlic building after 9 years. of course i'm concerned and distressed about the loss of artist space, but more concerned about the domino effect that having a large collection of tech offices will have on the immediate area and the mission as a whole. i don't know if you guys are super familiar with that area but in the cab street area between 16 and 18, there is 3 non profits, 8 automotive

repair, a furchture company, a large wood working business and those are just the businesses i can identify visually from the sidewalk and that is a lot of working class jobs. once there is a large anchor of several tech companies in the redlic building what do you suppose will happen to those businesses and those working class jobs that they supply? even more importantly, the ripple effect after that will effect housing which of course everyone in san francisco is concerned, which is going to lead to a residential displace: with these concerns i support the alturninate proposal by the cultural action network, which i think commissioner hill ishas been e-mailed because it dictates a healthier balance of office and trade shop space due to the third floor being

dedicated. better yet ask the owners of the building to work with [inaudible] a more improved proposal. thank you. >> hi. [inaudible] mission sro collaborative and deloris street community servicesism we ask you to vote gaens the proposal. we are in sal darety with the artist at the redlic building. the 99 cent store that used to be there that isn't anymore, a lot of the sro tenants frequented that store a lot so this is on our radar for a while. now that it is being changed, art is a major part of what makes the neighborhood what it is. people come there to look at the art. who do you think makeathize makes the art

of the mission? it is the artist. you have 60 artist at least that are going to be displaced and if you look at the battle field now you have developers with lawyers against the artists. this isn't a new story. we have artist and tenants displaced every day in the city. you hear it every week here. i know you see it when you walk around the city, i know you do. this has got to stop. we can not hand over this city to the tech industry. big tech, small tech. at the end of the day they are literally just blowing over everyone that exists in san francisco, so please please vote against this proposal. thank you. >> hello commissioners. thank

you for sticking with us this late tonight. i'm with the [inaudible] 16 coalition. we are about 120 organizations now and growing in the mission district. we are here in support of the artist. we are here in support of the non profits that have been displaced including the homeless childrens network. i want to reiterate that, was evicted from this building. i had friends evicted from the building. it is porenl storby but also a story of what is happening to the mission and it is a story of displace: it is story of displacement of non profit and neighborhood service businesses and story of displacement of evicted and displaced artist and it is a storby of displacement that it will cause in the mission by putting high rent paying tech office businesses in the build ing that has been there for

artist and pdr. it is very very important that you not approve this change of use. we are losing our pdr, we are losing artist, we do note need to convert mission street into a haven for tech offices. i am not singling out tech, we don't need high paying office space that used to be for artist. we are losing that space. you must vote against the change of use. thank you very much. >> any other speakers? marisa vela. flora davis. kim peterson. lake, i believe it is. cory keel. [inaudible] tom , maybe that is michael. ron [inaudible]

>> hi, i have something for you. good evening, my name is [inaudible] i'm here as a artist who had a studio in the redric for 10 years. make no mistake we are displaced. if there are teb artist down stairs there are over 60 that have been made to leave the building. throughout the ordeals we have been the pons between the master lease older and landlord. the master lease holder used the artist for leverage to secure a more favorable contract and the landlords use the artist to transform the build nothing to expensive office space. not a great fit for had neighborhood. the artist have been stuck in the middle. similar scenarios play out all over the u.s. it is so prevalent there is a name, cultural [inaudible] because they claim it will

revitalize a neighborhood and such a great deal for the artist. a fweter name is cultural place holding because the artist are place holders used >> student pus out working class people and people from the communities until the artist are puthsed out to make room fl wealthy. a better solution is for artist to align with communities and support their communities rather than being used by the developers. there is a compromises proposal crafted by the cultural action network in collaboration with david camposs office. i would love time to come together and iron out the details that works for all of us. i would like to be represented by leaders of the mission community such as [inaudible] can sit down at the table with community members the chances are greatest a

campmize can be reached that benefits us all. thank you for your time. >> my name is flora davis and i'm in support of the artist that were displaced. i will be losing my studio, 43 artist in soma november the 30th because i feel for the artist because i will be displaced and wanted to take a moment to read some of the people who signed the petitions on line. the arts and artist should be revered not dumped into a sforj space like yesterdays junk to make way for business interest that don't bpt the society in any way. artist are consistently

undervamued and dissever more than they have, not less. the arts dissever your help and support. everyone will benefit from their continued presance in the mission and throughout the city. come on now, it is the right thing to do. people running san francisco are letting wealthy developers and the tech industry ruin this incredible iconic city. artist everywhere deserve a space to live and work, enough catering to profits above people. when all the creative people are gone we will be unrecognizeinable as a city of art and music. a city is a common effort evolving over the years of shared work, conversations, inquirys tears and laughter. i'm a san franciscan and appalled to see the city change so heartlessly. i would hate to see what makes san francisco disappear building by building. this has

to stop. culture made san francisco beautiful and stripping the city of arts and culture will forever ruin the cities charm. i live in this neighborhood and this is disgusting. without art communities are gray lifely places where people don't really want to live. the last is artist matter. these are just some of the things that were on the petition. >> great, thank you. >> good evening. my name is cory crail and here to speak in support of the proseal tonight. i think the first. i'm a 22 year resident of san francisco, majority of the time in the mission district. i live at 23 and bartlet and have the opportunity to work at the redlic building suite 301 a. i

have been there for 5 years and there before this owner-i got nervous. i was there prior to the new ownership of the building and there was a marked difference in tenor at that time. i found my deal wgz the ownership is fair, easy, ownen communicative and reflect their interest in the preservation and cooperation with their tenants. i know there is a lot of complexity in what is going on, but i'm here to say in my experience what i have seen under their ownership is absolute commitment to their position in the neighborhood, safety of the building, the safety of their tenants and creating a environment in which

the comp scission that was there before remain tooz the best of their abilities. as someone who gets to live and work in the neighborhood i also shop in the neighborhood. i spend my time at thrift town and discount fabric and [inaudible] as well. i'm as intragle to this neighborhood eechben though i'm not a artist as other people in the building and think that this plan preserves that mix given the circumstances in the best possible way. that you can very much for your time. >> thank you. >> hello, my name is [inaudible] and i am a founding member of redlic studio, a ceramic studio my friend and i started about 5 years ago. we are still there. we are in

support of the owner. i think if this were to pass, we would still be able to stay there. we renewed the lease for 2 more years and every since he took over, there has been a lot of changes, but he has been fair and we have been able to stomach the increase and we are still there. thank you. >> my name is tom michaelson and i also work with mittsy chimery at the ceramic studio. we have 23 other artist on the third floor so if you don't approve this you will displace additional artist. mittsa made reference to the rent increase. we have been there for about sish years and had 2 leases

with the previous landlords and a new lease with the current landlord. we took some time and negotiated something but at the same time i went to look at what market rates were for floor spaus because didn't know if we would reach a resolution and i found in my dealings with him that he was asking under market rate and that we got a pretty decent deal and we were able to accommodate like mittsy said for a couple more years. we have 12 foot ceilings. it is a really nice space and in reference to somebody keeps talking about the dollar store and it being accessible for the sro hotel, there is a dollar store across the street that is still viable. it isn't like people are not able to access a dollar store within 30 feet of

the redlic building. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker and i'll call a couple more names. [inaudible] greg cay. nate watson. robert donald. [inaudible] scott kipper. >> my name is [inaudible] and i'm the regional manager for thrift town. since the new owners have taken over the building we had nothing but benefits from it. the building has been made safer. the people that were living up stairs illegally are gone and we were having lots of trouble with them in our stores because they were coming down and being criminal behavior. all that kind of stuff is cleaned up. we now have a really good

working relationship with him and he comes in and takes care of any problems that we have in the stores, so personally i'm very pleased with how it is going. i don't know about all the artist displacement stuff but i know for us as the- we have 2 floors that we have benefited from the new landlords. thank you. >> my name is ron [inaudible] and i'm the owner of fabric outlet and we have been there since 1982 so we have seen a lot of changes and seen a lot of different owners we went through and all i can do is speak from experience. i feel sorry for the people that have been displaced and don't know the situation so only speak for how we have been treated since rick has taken over the

building, i notice better security. i notice the building is maintained better and just signed a equitable 10 year lease with him beginning this year and so we are pleased. thank you for your time. >> hell thank you for having me. my name is greg cay and my wife and i are [inaudible] garmt designers and i'm not a expert to speak to the city planning or the politics behind this that are prevalent in the hall way but can speak the relationship i have with the building owners. my wife and i used to start off by ourselves in the living room. since found the space and suite 304

through studio 17 on cregs list and were able to go through and grow the business to the point we have grown to a handful of employees which we provide jobs and livelihood. our lease was ending with studio 17 and were displace today the building and moved to hais valley and after our lease ended we made contact with the building owner squz they were able to find us a place on the second floor in suite 204 where we were offered a rent reduction of 40 percent so we are paying less rent than studio 17. the landlord has been clear, direct, straight fraward, communeative. they sanded the floorbs and done the wall squz increased the security in thebleding. the kitchen and common areas and

bathrooms are better maintained that previously and we are in a happy place now and hope to stay there for a long time. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is [inaudible] you have a letter from my president. rick hired our company about 3 or 4 months ago to make sure the tenants have a vehicle to see the space. we currently have about 50 clients under structured praurptds and in my opinion rick has been flexible and supportive of tenants i have seen. one example, many times tenant would come to me and talk about issues they had late in june. they said we hear the owner will lock the doors july 1 and grab our stuff and through it in the trash and i say i'm responsible for had building i

won't through out. i mention td to rick and he said, why don't i pay them to move out of his pocket. the problem is these people have viable goods and he said we'll pay for the insurance. paid for the shurns and moving. we set a hard deadline and a number of people accepted it. [inaudible] people missed the deadline and rick said we move them too. this is all on his dime and the first reaction is take care of the tenants. thank you. >> hi. my name is [inaudible] and the studio space on the second floor of the redlic building offered to all the artist formally occupying the third and forth floor meets my standards as a artist. i'm a full time artist and attended

academy of art universesty in the city and it is my dream to work and create art as a artist and so far i have been fortunate to do so. the new space offered on the second floor is ideal and above and beyond the standards i require. the space offers as much better and more affordable than any other art staudios i have looked at. it is a large space and has lots of space and light. the only difference from the space on the 4th floor and the new space on the second floor of the redlic building is that i have more space and upgrades. being a artist is my full time job and i'm very grateful to be employed. working on the second floor has already helped my business and i thriv. i would love nothing more than tune working in the

space and strongly support the application from rick and his building ownership. thank you. >> my name is nate watson and executive director of public glass. i have been there for 3 years and before i got to public glass, rick and his family were aurmd there supporting the programs. their son is a artist and works for us at public glass. i came to san francisco to be part of the arts community and to be honest, most of it is gone and it breaks my heart that there is a conflict between the arts, artist, arts organizations and progress in the city. most recently rick has been a mentor and hoping renegotiate our lease. what i can tell you is

he is fair and honest and straight shooter. in our nushation with our landlord his advice is meet the landlord to a relationship and believe all is a way tr had artist and for the landlords to reach a compromise and try to do something really good for or arts. it is my job it too advocate for arts and the artist and do believe that rick and his family on are the side of making a way forward. thanks. >> good evening commissioners. robert donald, artist and former master lease holder at studio 17. studio 17 operated as a creative incubator for artist and small business and

tech as well. sorry. this has been a long and confusing project and there has been a lot of stress on me and the artist in the space and everybody involved and this plan has taken a long time to come to furition. but it is only recently made completely aware to me. from the very beginning i wanted to work with this owner, i wanted to figure out a solution and way to provide arts space in the building, something that was equitable. i'm in support of the application because it provides 22 artist spaces and gallery that can acamidate approximately 40 artist. 11

exstudio 17 artist have already signed leases at affordable rents with rick on the second floor and believe the additional studios provided will provide more diverse accomodation for other art practices that the second floor don't necessarily do so i would like for you to approve this. thank you >> come on up. i'll call the last batch. kate nickels. brian webster, luis calenda. scott haylic. jeffrey [inaudible] gwen [inaudible] >> mary aliza here. thank you,

commissioners for paying attention to this issue at this late hour. i will only speak on one issue. i sent the e-mails out and believe you probably got them, i know i got acknowledgment earlier. i'm concerned about enforcement and the lack of it at this point. we were asked to come up with data so we can prove this displacement issues were going on and we located and identified quite a few illegal office spaces in the mission and neighborhoods around and this is just one other case where nothing is being done. the landlord is breaking the law and getting away with it and he is asking, just change the law because we broke the law and we want to be in compliance. we would just like to request that the department require the illegal uses to be corrected and the land owner charged fines due to the city

before entertaining consideration of authorization of conditional use. we request the city adopt a policy of not giving varancy of landlords in violation of the law. that is all i will say tonight. thank you. >> brian webster, again small business person, community organizer that has a lot of hats. i live at 190 [inaudible] i'm also the chief of staff and events manager at [inaudible] at 16th and cap in the mission where i worked with them for over 7 years. so, i want to stand in opposition here of this plan. it isn't a

matter of you know, i am a artist and got a better deal on my lease or i got a pretty good deal on my 10 year lease in the building. i think it is just not-having that amount of tech office space in the mission will change things for 10 years, 20 years 30 years. i'm not against tech, i'm a tech business person myself and organize tech business networking events, but this could be better. at 1950 mission street, there is a 150 or 60 units of green affordable housing on top of coworking space for artist and small business people. i don't think this is about artist versus business or tech versus you know, the working poor. i

think it is a matter of, if you have community leaders or actually also volunteer community planners, people like gabeial mu deana, meta or eric [inaudible] speaking in opposition to this project, then you have to listen to the-i believe you should and this is just not good enough and i think there could be a better plan and better compromise. >> thank you sir, your time is up. >> thank you. >> good evening my name is lewis calenda and board member of wruth sf which is a non profit foundation that offers scholarships to students from underserved communities. aid is based on need and merit. in

our 2 year existence we have given out over81 scholarships in excess of 100 thousand dollars. about a year ago the board decide to do more thangist write checks thmpt s proverb that inspired us is give a person a fish [inaudible] we want to train in addition-we want to train student for possible careers in tech. we want to foster their interest and train and open doors for them. we partnered with qualified educators. we are collaborating with great schoolsism the program is off to a straupg start. my family integrateed here from mexico 50 years ago and it is because of good will programs like this we were able to establish in the city. my mom taught in the mission for over 30 years. we

love and respect the community and think this isn't in the best interest of the community. i hope you see the merit of the undertakings and support this initiative. thank you. >> as lou said my name is scott halic. i'm a engineer and educator. i worked specifically with students in east palo alto, the tenderloin and mission district along with red wood city and other areas. one thing that [inaudible] had to technology and them being pitched to as a consumer of technology rather than a creator of technology. we heard a lot about art and creativity and think it is important that people understand math and sciness is

a creative [inaudible] i will be the first to admit the technology industry isn't as diverse as any would hope but that is the reason i partnered with youth sf is give those students of color and don't have a family member in the tech industry a foot hold of understanding and enjoying and seeing the potential that they have to learn and create with hardware and software and seeing those are powerful tools. the part that i really enjoy and look forward to is some of the space that the owner is providing for us to give a drop in lab for the students to have a maker space and a place to collaborate and discuss big projects and get their hands on with technology that is sometimes running over their culture and not understanding their culture. thank you. >> good evening,

commissionersism jeff [inaudible] board member of youth sf and founder of youth sf. first, thanks for staying this late, i know it isn't easy. youth sf was started as a scholarship organization. we recently stepped outside of that. that scholarship organization is geared at kids that are living below it poverty line and giving these kids a opportunity to go to school they would otherwise not have. we made this decision about a year and a half ago to try to reach out to the underserved, underrepresented community in san francisco and get them involved in technology. try to get the kids that are motivated and want to do it to have a way to do things like a robotics academy we are doing. we already had success with schooless around the area and they let us use their classrooms after hours.

mission, duloris academy. what we found with this owner is he is going togive us a space of our own to create a lab. of the 100 kids we dealt with now, 92 percent are kids of color. 100 percent of them are kids of need. this is my experience with the owner of this building and how he is willing to reach out to us. i hope you consider that. i know you have a difficult decision in front of you and i hope that you do approve this project. thank you. >> thank you for being with us tonight. my name is kate nickels and i am a painter. i was at a studio in this building for 9 years. watching this whole thing play out over the last year or so, i really have to say i admire you, mr. holman for your intelligence.

he vavery smart man and he played his cards very well and you can see that i'm sure in the proposal he set forth before you. the offer of the second floor space is right before the lease was about to expire and don't believe it was done in good faith. he is trying to [inaudible] it is pretty cool, right? [inaudible] i have given 3 ted talks and work with nano technology. [inaudible] make no mistake, this is displacement. no bones about it. i reject holmans assertion that his efforts can be seen as a model for responsible building stewardship. i support the proposal setforth by the cultural action network as of

2800 other people as of last week. essentially the proposal says this, let mr. holman make money, let him make lots of it and let him make it off the 4th floor and make him put that many where his mouth is. rent the 4th floor which is a suitable space for artists. >> my name is scott cipeer. my letter is on my lap top and the battery died a hour agoy after being here for 8 hours. god, i hope you hear this for all the future 1s the arts and cultural communities are in deep crisis in san francisco. i talked to the politicians and they say maybe that is the case but don't hear you saying it. the arts in crisis in san

francisco! we cannot compete on the free market that is driving our real estate boonl. how does it relate to today? rick holman and partners purchased the building in 2013 around 5 million and it went for 15 million so things will change. leases are coming up [inaudible] this started by evicting a number of group already there to make room. if people hadinate stood up there would be more compromise for arts place. i want to applaud toby leavey and know her dedication to arts and cultural spaces. because she is involved i have some faith the promises will go forward. the prices have to be locked in at the rates they office. the compromise is for the third floor. if they say can't afford it let's get the number

and see if they can make the third floor viable oppose d to the second floor that isn't adequate. we have jim goldburg on the top floor we hope he will be able to stay in the building up. this is a important and mixed use space, it is a role model for a lot of different groups in the missionism we hope a compromise can be reach squd want to applaud toby leaveys work on this moving forward. thank you for your time. >> hello and thank you for having me and us. my name is jeff hoover and i'm here on behalf of someone who couldn't make it because she was giving guitar lessen tooz student in suite 204 she moved into into the recent months so i have a recording to play

>> my name is cary love and would like to address it planning commission on behalf of mr. rick holman and thank you for accepting my recorded testimony and sorry i wasn't anal to make it today because of needing to work. i have been a tenant in the building since june of 2009 and 2 years ago mr. holman bought the building and became the landlord and i want to speak about my experience especially because it such a great of experience and a lot of what i hear from friend and what i read in the paper isn't my experience so i'm excite today be able to share that with you today. i have a business in the building, guitar lessens with cary love and i teach guitar to working adults so not children but adult squz do group class jz also teach song writing and i also do song write wg cancer survivors,

breast cancer specifically but also other cancer. i am able to do that really because mr. holman allowed me to have a rent that i can afford. i put a letter in that says more of the specifics. my studio suite 303 is 819 square feet. i'm being charged below market rate at 1200 dollars and mr. holman negotiated this price with me to make it affordable so it wouldn't go up every year over a 5 year span and was generous enough to give me 5 years which i'm very appreciative especially as the-- >> i just have pictures here. >> thank you. >> good evening commissioners [inaudible] you know this is

the first of a series of pivotal projects that will come about the mission and the future in the coming months. i know you appreciate this reminds me of the south of market pdr office conversion projects you heard in the last year with buildings similarly complicated history where the owner now wants to convert part or all to a lucrative office space in those cases you fashioned a compromise and urge you to do the same tonight. there is a compromise here that may be a pattern. the top floor would be valuable office space if it [inaudible] the discresary allocation from the commission, i believe is about 27 thousand square feet. the third floor is a wonderful artist studio space. the

affordable rent at a dollar 50 a foot is the right amount and that could be the condition. the second floor is substandards which is why the artist were offered affordable rent. it is the least valuable space and should host any activity the mission zoning will allow. any economic activity. they may bring back 2 of the non profits organizations they evicted and of course the ground floor is spoken for. that is the compromise. it follows the general pattern of south of market with similar situations and it would be i think a reasonable model for the future of mission where you achieve all the community building objectives, all 4 at the same time in one building. thank you. >> hello again commissioners my

name is amie way and [inaudible] i want to echo what scott said, recollect we are in a crisis of arts in san francisco and have to make sure that boards like this and commissions like this that have the power to protect arts and culture and follow the law and general code and plan of the city are doing so with that privilege. i think about how we do have this housing crisis and affordable crisis in san francisco and i was reading the chronicle and said 100 thousand jobs have been added since 2010 and the question is who are the jobs going to. in 2011 the question on everyones lips is job job jobs. keep the third

floor for art space because we just can't afford to lose anymore community serving businesses and organizations, but with that 4th floor some of the things i heard tonight from the youth organization that is training low income and minority youth, what an amazing thing it would be we said who ever moves into the forth floor if is office space, what if 50 percent thof jobs go to people who need them and are connected to ccsf or [inaudible] how do we make this a win win so we create job frz the people that need them in san francisco? >> good evening commissioners. i'm lane nob nub owner and operator of thrit thousand storesism we have been the redlic building since 1974. i

have been doing business there myself for the last 25 years. you have seen lots of change over that period of time. changes to the make up of the mission district, the dem ographics, changes to the use in the building and artist are newer in the building and terrible the displacement going on. 25 years ago when we owned the building we didn't have those leases. we had leases with trade uses and other types of uses and those uses are now gone from the city. we support this, the whole mission of this today is to legalize the uses now in the building and have been going on in that builds frg a long time. to do the conditional use so that the lan lord and-a very good landlord

that has graciously offered a good compromise can actually put the life safety into the had building that is needed for us to continue. we have a lease there until 2028. we want to stay there, but we need this life safety done to stay there. we like the mixed use of the building, it is a great make up and we think that these owners are good owners. the kind of owners we need with other owners in the city to lookt the mixed use and provide a compromise in order to get their plans approved. thank you. >> okay, is there additional public comment on this item? >> there is no rebuttal >> any other public comment for

anyone who hasn't spoken yet? i think everyone has in this room. more than once. okay, public comment is closed. commissioner richards. >> i move we go back to the sky bridge. okay. um, you know, i continue to be amazed and informed by public comment and appreciate avenue wn coming out and it is late and you probably all want to go home. this project understand the business rationalal and justification i mentioned to the project sponsor yesterday. he bought the property you wanted to ret row fit the build{discovered there was issues with the permits and the permits in the past were i guess given and [inaudible] you got caught in that web. you really need to ret row fit the building because we want to make sure

[inaudible] as well as commerce and safety is important and the arts. so, you need to justify how this is going to work out. you have a business plan, you are piecing this together to subsidize the ret row fit and profit. i like a sim bioses with the arts space including the arts community and neighborhood service retail which i applaud you keeping it at the rates you kept as well as the office space to keep it going. i appreciate the fact that you kept the building up. we heard that from folks in the building and if we don't do anything what use is the building? it poses a hazard. i applaud your community interest and all the good works you have done. to the community i want to make sure that we decide today or in the fuch rb is based on a data

analysis and not a motion and based on good public policy and in the best interest of the community which i think a project here is. interesting enough, we heard tech versus non tech and had how many electronic devices used, either notes or the audio so want to make sure the folks antetech are using tech. the question for staff is the [inaudible] 2020 how to treat this project? >> are you referring to interm controls >> the plan working on for release in the next 3 or 4 or 5 months, >> the plan has prerogatives that deal with housing and displacement and number of issues. the mechanism behind that is interim controls and

policies which you voted on earlier. in light of that, the interim policy doesn't necessarily effect the project in the termoffs conditional use because it already has conditional use, but it is something long term the mission plan would address displacement and economic measures for perhaps artist or other uses and affordable housing. >> got it. a question for one of the artist, the gentlemen in the blue denim shirt please, i believe you spoke first. come up. we heard a lot about 70 artists going down to 3 dozen and you are one of the people. you are no longer in the redlic building? >> yes >> did you have a lease? >> i did have a lease through

robert donald who is the master lease holder >> all the folks that are in a t shirt that are displaced how many had leases? sublease. got it. you were room matewise somebody who had a lease. i was trying to get the xckt number of artist and understand the subleases probably were not approved by the master tenant so there were more artist there than they probably realized. i think that is safe to assume. another question i have for your as a person in the building. god forbid you got a lease back in the builds{the bilging collapses and had to talk to yoir family and say i vote today keep a unsafe building in the mission, what would you tell me to tell them? clearly we have a safety issue and will ask the project sponsor to provide a structural

engineer report that states we have a safety issue. i appreciate your honesty and testimony. mr. mu deana, i have a question for you please. we heard compromise, i don't have compromise in front of me, can you describe what that looks like? >> what [inaudible] they made a compromise of having some office space on the 4th floor. there has been office space for non profit and just in reference to the mission action plan 2020 and the discussions with that, it was specifically as far as the jobs and work force aspects was preserve pdr space and use as much as possible and have tighter controls as what serves as neighborhood service businesses which clearly this building has displaced many of and has

changed something that a ajaisants sro is displaced so there is compromised and have it in written form and on the petition signed by 2800 people. to mr. julian, i understood from mr. [inaudible] packet that this was never zoned pdr, is that correct? >> it would have been-i don't know what the underlying zone was before it was mission street neighborhood-before-the neighborhood commercial districts were established in the mid1980's so at that point there would have been controlled to adding industrial use such as pdr or office or retail above the ground floor and along the neighborhood corridors that were established on

>> we are talking about 1967 and mid-80's there was different zoning >> the building was established before the adoption of the planning code. >> right. thank you. mr. vetal or mrs. livey. i really appreciate and i read the economic analysis and think mr. vetal i praised you and said you anticipate some of the things we need so thank you. i see the 24 dollars a square foot the artist are charge frd the second floor is in the midtholf rents charged now with some leases that go through 2018, 2017. the question i have is here we talk about a compromise and have all the artist and on second floor and artist on the third and fofort

and mentioned the fact i worked for a tech firm with a 8 by 10 cube squz had a 8 bine 10 cube in market which a railroad building and right across from me we had windows with high ceilings and w a lot of light. i would go do the it person where their coded for customer support and they would pull the shade on the windows and squint on the screen-i'm asking you would something along the lines of the compromise configuration work economically? can we take a look at that? what do you think because maybe artist on the third floor and coders on the second floor given the coders like the visor on, how would that play out? >> commissioner, we looked at it initially and did decide not to go for the whole third ploor. we designed 3 thousand

square feet for artist on the third floor. it is hard to predict, we do think there will be between 5 and 6 million dollars worth of seismic work. weome ployed [inaudible] the plans have been checked in the building code so think the amount of work is verified. because this is a technical change of use we have to bring it up to modern day code. >> thank you. can you tell me- >> as a plan grid, the forth floor tenet isn't a coding out fit it is urfbs firm for architects and engineers >> so the forth floor is for offices? >> yes >> the homeless childrens network, some folks said it was evicted, can you tell me how that happened? >> their lease expired 2 years

ago and extended them it an additional year to find new space because they had adopted a childcare piece of their program and they can't have children on the 4th floor of a building, period. the state code requires the first or second floor inaccessible so they were going to leave and gave them a extra year with the old rent and have a letter from the leasing agent that talks about the situation. >> while you are up here, it is now 1125, our car will be impounded in 30 minutes, it is late and i'm tired and hot and we heard so much today. i guess the question i would ask is i would thrike continue this item to september 3. how do you feel about that so we can sit down and review and take a

tour and hear mr. mu deana? i would like to wait a couple week squz make this right rather than make a decision at midnight. >> we have been waiting for many hours >> we heard public testimony. >> [inaudible] is a very sensible companymize that achieves the objectives that makes the building safe and preserves 16 thousand square feet of artist space and 16 thousand square feet of trade shop space. it is your decision >> i also want to say we have been work wg the supervisors office and would not have come before you with this type of proposal if it hadn't been for their strong input. they guided us to the the arts commission. it is not as if we have been doing this in a vacuum. >> i move to continue this item

to september 3. we will see if i have support, if not we'll continue this. >> i'm prepared to second this because being able to do this project-there are lots oaf aspects proand con and whatever additional understanding i can bring, rep. joe -at this point am not able to muster it >> is that a second? >> yes, that is a second. >> commissioner woo. >> if we do continue i would thrike to suggest though that we give thought and direction. i don't want to come to september 3 and have no sense of where the commission is going. >> i would like a reconfiguration foosee where you can give and where the community can give and see if there is a middle ground >> commissioner [inaudible] >> i would be aminable to doing

that however what is proposed is a very legitimate proposal. we are going down the wrong roads when we tell business owners who they can and can't lease to, what proportion of the buildsings they have to lease to various individuals. i think it is interfering with owner tenant relationships. however, i think we are in fact rezoning this or going through a situation where we have to legalize so there is some discretion therement this is a building that i visited 42 years ago when we bought our first bed as a married couple at 1973 and at that time the owner was saying how much the neighborhood detear yearated and sounds like it did after that with squatters and so i respect what the owner is doing and want to make sure they can

make it work and make the building safe and if there is a the ability to put more artist in there, but if it doesn't work the proportions they are showing here are pretty evening balanced between retail, administrative and arts and trade shop. i would be repaired to vote today, but think the period of time might help to work out any flaws that are there. >> [inaudible] we gist passed the policy trying to preserve and not displace arts use and i think i met with the building owner and the artist and people seem to be out of place where there is rational talk and compromise so i think maybe some time getting out of the political arena and talking about where space is and where it may be. the first floor, there doesn't seem to be a lot

of interest for gallery space. i don't know if it does well to laes as retail space, but it is big space on the first floor that could be retail. >> if i can interject, the trade shop use and part of the component requires a retail space so if it isn't on the ground floor it has to be somewhere else. that is a planning code requirement. >> there is some trade shop retail. >> the trade shop component which is the artist space by definition has to have a retail component, which is in the current proposal is on the ground floor. >> okay. i don't know if there is flexibility >> there dozen seem to be a ton of interest in the space and there is a significant amount of space. i didn't get the numbers. we house 70 artist before, maybe that isn't true,

maybe it is true, but in what -how much space because the numbers don't quite add up. you said there was 10 thousand square feet. >> a lot of artist share space so when we got the building there was a role of 34 people that technically were subleasing. that is the number we were told. the 10 thousand square feet sort of maufed through the ages of adding a little here and little there and some became office and some back to artist so it is a very flewed situation for a long time. 70-you could fit 70 artist in the 16 thousand square feet we are proposing, it is just because people are sharing space squz have been for a long time. >> right, okay. i am not getting the numbers adding up either. i know there are 5 thousand square feet on the

first floor, 5700 on the second floor you are proposing. 3 thon square feet on the third floor. we had a little trouble because we use boma and the planning department uses a different way of measuring so that is inreason of miscommunication on the initial submittal. it smatter of 10 or 15 percent between the boma and the planning department. it is sort of like 3, 6 and 6. >> 3, 6 and 6. you are close. it is great space on the forth floor. it is wonderful space, so can you expand the third floor space more? i dont know what the rules are. [inaudible] retail on the first floor and using that for more

economical use, but dopet think we are going toresolve this tonight but just thoughts. >> [inaudible] we could not offer space on the first or third floor until we got the conditional use approval. the zoning administrator would not issue permits to build out the spaces. that is why the only space we have is the second ploor fl initial office but the third and first floor space which have higher ceil rgz not built out yet >> i saw the second goor floor, it is usable. it works for some people so as part of the compromise i encourage you to keep working and-- >> commissioner woo. >> this is-everyone wants to get to the same place. we talk about square foot squj the same

numbers and there is one standard. i'm reminded of the branden street example where we had 4 floors and split 2 floor frz pdr and 2 for office. i think this is different. the retail seems to be solid and have long term leases so it could be something like splitting half what is left, the second, thrird and 4th floor. add up the square footage and think about what half is. mr. [inaudible] put out a interesting proposal that was 4th floor office, third floor trade shop [inaudible] there are other permitted uses. the world is not only trade shop and administrative service, there are other uses to go into the building and a number of them are permitted. >> support of continuance, it is getting late and won't get

to anything tonight. specifically i have not gotten clarity thf sounds like some work was done with the supervisors office but no one gave a answer what that was. i eco commissioner woo in going back it the braunden street example and we will be in a tough spot september third if it isn't clean t. is difficult to do something by square footage. anything that the fird floor is mostly office accept 2000 square feet we'll have a discussion how tafix it so make it clean and simple and love to hear specifically what is it is the supervisors office discussed with the project sponsor because i didn't get a straight answer. >> it is more straight forward to me and wish we had more time to get to a answer tonight

because we have all the pieces and appreciate everyones testimony. this is a good quality landlord. i don't think it is within our purview to program that building. we are asked to approve the use and type of use, but saying the west side of third floor is for this and the west for that, i don't think that is our job so won't be in support of the continuance because i was hopeful we would get their tonight and get this building fixed up and safe. commissioner moore. >> we will continue [inaudible] conversation which is positive to see in what form they frame the conversation for us to fully embrace their position and find a way [inaudible]

ultimately [inaudible] >> commissioners there is a motion and second to continue this matter to september 3. on that motion, commissioner [inaudible] commissioner richard, aye. commissioner woo, aye. [inaudible] that motion passes 6 to 1 with commissioner wong voting against. that places us on public comment. i have no speaker cards. >> we have a couple items here.

calling for general public comment. we still have some work to do, calling for general public comment? seeing none public comment is closed but if you can bare with me for a second because we are about to close this meeting in the memory of 2 people and that is jim micko and [inaudible] thank you very much and the meeting is adjourned.

>> good morning everybody. welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors budget and finance sub-committee meeting for wednesday july 22, 2015. my name is mark farrell. i will be chairing the committee. i am joined by supervisor katy tang and i would like to thank the clerk linda wong and sfgtv covering this meeting. madam clerk do we have any announcements? >> yes mr. chair. please silent all cell phones and electronic devices, complete speaker cards and documents to be part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. items acted on today will be on the july 28 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> okay. thank you madam clerk. let's get rolling here. we have a number of items here

and at the end we have two hearings and please call item 1. >> item 1 hearing hearing to consider the release of reserved funds, arts commission to build out the secure basement storage space and related location costs for the city's civic art collection. >> great. we have tom mckinney here. >> good morning supervisors. as you know it will move to the veterans building in september of this year and our request is for the release of reserve funds for $50,000 to complete the move of the art collection to the war memorial. we are glad that the capitol planning committee has allocated a historic amount for the art collection and afford us to the opportunity to properly store the city's civic art collection and by many artists.

this is where the documentation for the civic art collection is stored as well as any works that are coming through for conservation and care so i have our senior registrar here alice coming to answer questions and we appreciate you're considering this item. >> thank you. mr. rose can we go to the report on item 1. >> yes mr. chairman and members of the committee it's shown in table one the arts commission budget for the relocation of the veterans memorial has been increased by 23% and the amount listed and from the original budget listed to the revised budget of one 1.4 million and page four we note that the use and sources moved to the war memorial building are in table two. we recommend that you approve the release of the $50,000 of the

reserve. >> okay. thank you. any questions? we will move to public comment? anyone to comment on item 1? seeing none. public comment is now closed. [gavel] colleagues if no other comments i would like a motion to approve the release of funds. >> so moved. >> we will take that without identification. can you call item 1? >> mr. chair for clarification would you like to file item 1. >> yes. thank you. >> item two is a resolution authorizing the recreation and park department to accept and expend grant in approximately 130,000 from the san francisco parks alliance to support various recreation and park department operations for fiscal year 2013, 2014. >> okay. i have rec and park to speak on this item. >> yes, i am with the recreation and park department. this gift from the san francisco parks alliance is one that we bring to the board of

supervisors each year. the parks a liensz is the non-profit -- alliance is the non-profit partner of the parks and they ask as the fiscal sponsor managing 50 gift funds on the department's behalf and in fiscal year 13-14 the parks alliance contributed $133,961 from these gift funds to help sustain a wide variety of activities including the commemtive bench program and the four annual community events and improvements at camp mather and in natural areas and the volunteer program. thank you. i am happy to answer any questions. >> thank you very much. colleagues any questions. no budget analyst report so we will move to public comment. anyone to comment? seeing none. public comment is now closed. [gavel] . >> i move approval of this item.

>> okay. supervisor mar has made a motion and take that without objection. madam clerk call item 3. >> item 3 is for accept and expend grant for california department of water resources for a new recycled water facility at the san francisco international airport mel leong industrial wastewater treatment plant for a four year term through january, 2015 through december 31, 2018. >> welcome. >> thank you. i am with the san francisco international airport. this item seeks the authorization for the airport accept and expend grant a grant in the amount of $750,000 from the california department of water resources through the association of bay area governments. in order to fund a portion of the upgrade project at the wastewater treatment plant last summer the california department of water resources

awarded a $20 million grant to abag to fund water projects throughout the region. sfo received a portion of this grant in the amount of $750,000 to fund a project at the wastewater treatment plant to work on recycle water in use of landscaping and toilet flushing throughout the airport terminals this. is just one piece of a much larger upgrade to the wastewater treatment plant. the larger project includes pipes, pumps, treatment facilities and water storage tanks as well as new linkage to upgrade airport terminal systems. the contract for the larger upgrade project will come before the board of supervisors for your consideration in the fall but this simply asks for your authorization for the airport to accept and expend grant the grant of $750,000. >> thank you. supervisor tang. >> thank you. can you talk about what the total is costing and the balance comes from?

>> the larger project is part of the capital plan and this is a small portion of the larger project, and it comes from airport -- i believe it's bond revenue that will pay for the entire project. >> okay. thank you. >> okay. if no other questions mr. rose can we go to your report. >> mr. chairman and members of the committee on page 6 of our report is shown in table two a total estimated cost of the upgrade is listed amount and the proposed grant of 750,000 or 12.4% is funded from the grant funds and the balance of just over $5 million is paid by airport revenue bonds. we recommend haw approve this resolution. >> thank you mr. rose. if no questions we will open it up for

public comment. seeing none. public comment is now closed. [gavel] >> all right. through the chair make a motion to send this forward with a positive recommendation to the full board. >> okay. we will take that without objection. madam clerk can you call item 4. >> item 4 is accept and expend grant for the public health and 200,000 for public health to participate in a program called "san francisco bay clinical trials unit" for the period of december 1, 2014 through november 30, 2015. >> okay thanks. we have dph to speak here. >> i am sharon and i am representing the department of public health. this is a supplemental grant awarded through a joint program to allow for collaborations between u.s. and brazilian investigators. this budget is funded a project in brazil to learn more about the size of the transgender

population in rio deja dareo and prepare for a project in that city is -- now recommended globally by the world's health organization. however, there is no coordinated program to deliver this to transwomen in the area and the risk of hiv is high. the grant will fund a portion of [inaudible] dr. lou and mcgoldrick fallen for one year between the investigators in brazil. dr. mc fallen will be training the team to measure the size of the trans population in rio. the other doctors have extensive experience in

developing protocols for prep demonstration projects and providing that expertise to the brazilian team. thank you for considering this request to accept and expend grant. >> thank you very much. colleagues any questions. we will move on to public comment. anyone to comment on item 4? seeing none. public comment is now closed. [gavel] >> i move we approve this item and send to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> okay. motion by supervisor mar and take without objection. madam clerk can you call item 5. >> item 5 is a resolution retroactive three for the department of public health for a agreement with health care services to get reimbursement for children enrolled inlet healthy kids program and expend funds in the amount of up to 400,000 to finance the program for the period of january 1, 2015 through june 30, 2015. >> okay. thank you very much. >> thank you good morning chairs and supervisors. my name is stella chow, the director of

managed care for the san francisco health network of the department of public health. i'm asking for the approval of this resolution to retroactively enter into an agreement with the department of health care services to receive reimbursement for eligible for the kids in the healthy kids program and these funds to finance the program. this is a insurance program overseen by the department of public health and offers coverage to children 18 and under and at under the poverty level as listed that don't qualify for other programs. it also includes vision and dental coverage. both of which are vital in providing preventive health care for children. as june 2015 healthy kids enrollment was under 2,000 members. the

federal funds are helpful to support healthy kids by contributing towards continued operation and management of the program and resulting in no cost to the city and county to obtain these funds. as affordable health coverage the health care -- the healthy kids program promotes the health of all san franciscans and the proposed agreement require approval of the resolution by the san francisco board of supervisors. as a new unit we think the department of public health. the managers are organizing and reviewing requirements as stated in multiple managed care agreements it oversees and made aware of the requirements from the department of health care services of approved resolution to accompany its agreement with the city and county. thus we

are requesting your retroactive approval to satisfy the requirements of the agreement and continue with the healthy kids program. i thank you for your consideration and at this point the healthy kids program officer kath lean and myself are happy to address any questions that you have. >> thank you very much. colleagues any questions. okay mr. rose can we. >> to your report on item 5? >> yes mr. chairman. as shown in table two and page 10 of our report the net reimbursement to the county would be 119,443. we recommend that you approve this resolution. >> okay. thank you mr. rose. seeing no other comments i will move this on to public comment. anyone wish to comment on item 5? seeing none. public comment is now closed. [gavel] >> thank you. >> thank you. colleagues do we have a motion to send it forward.

>> so moved. >> motion by supervisor tang and take without objection. madam clerk can you call item 6. >> item 6 is approval of bookstore lease - books inc. and the city and for a five-year term with two one-year options for 575,000 during the first year of the lease. >> thank you. >> thank you. cathy wagner with the san francisco international airport. item number 6 seeks the approval for a new lease with books inc. for a book store comprised of the square footage listed in the airport and has a term through june 2020 and two one year options to extend and minimum annual guarantee rent of $575,000 or a percentage of gross revenues whichever is greater and the result of a

competitive process and books inc. receiving the highest store and the budget analyst office recommends approval and i am happy to answer questions. >> okay. thank you. any questions colleagues? mr. rose report on item 6? >> yes mr. chair on page 13 of the report we note under this lease they're required to pay the airport the greater amount as $575,000 or percentage rent and on page 12 the subject lease will generate guaranteed guarantee revenues payable by books inc. to the airport of at least 2.8 million over the term and that excludes cpi adjustments and we recommend that you approve the resolution. >> thank you mr. rose. anyone wish to comment on public comment? seeing none. public comment is now closed. colleagues can i have a motion to send this forward. >> so moved. >> moved by supervisor mar. e