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>> i now call the regular meeting of the health service board city and county of san francisco to order. holy stand and repeat the pledge of allegiance. >>[pleage of allegiance] >> the board secretary will call the roll. >> rollcall. resident scott-vp lim commissioner breslin, supervisor farrell excused commissioner rigo expected commissioner-omission or sass. we have a quorum.

>> item number two, shifted one, i'm sorry jacob thank you. item 1 action item. approval with possible modifications of the minutes of the meeting set forth below. together meeting of june 11, 2015. >> are there any additions or edits to the minutes? >> i move we approve. >> it's been properly moved we approve the minutes is distributed and posts. is there a second >> second chapter properly moved moved and seconded. approve the minutes as distributed with the regular meeting of approve the minutes as distributed with the regular meeting of june 11, 2015. is there public comment? hearing none, we are now ready to vote. all those in favor say, aye. opposed, nay. the nay had.

>>[gavel] >> item 2, >> item to discussion item. general public comment on matters within the board's jurisdiction not appearing on today's agenda. >> is there any public comment? yes, please >> my name is diane perla. i spoken to you before about nine- my dispute with-getting this oral appliance cupboard on the follow is it and i got a phone call from the kaiser represented same that they had decided they were not going to cover it. i would get a phone call from ms. hill at the health services system explaining why because i asked her to send me a written statement so i would understand

what's going on. this was about a month ago and i never heard from anyone at the health service system. i just think i am entitled to get an answer of what was decided and why. >> thank you. before you go accuracy, just remain there. i want to formally request that your request be given to director dodd and that she follow up with you through her staff member. thank you. any other public comment? hearing none, i like to go to item 3 which is the presence report. i do have a few items that i wish to cover. first, i have a privilege under the auspices of the board to participate in an international foundation employee benefits plan trustees institute, which was conducted here in san francisco on june 15 of this year. this was a very wide range in -presentation. i found a lot of information in some of the sessions. some of it was very, in my humble opinion, very

elementary, but i think that you have to take that into account given a person's background and experience in the field of benefits. overall, the program was exceptionally well done. in order to qualify for a certificate of attendance, you had to attend 13 sessions. i did that. i think it's worthy that i go on television and say that i got my certificate in the mail, and two days ago. saying that i really wasn't there. i know there was some question at least in my office, about where i was. i was at the sessions. there are any number of these items that i think will serve us well as trustees, or in our case, commissioners, as we have a little later in the fall and open forum for this board, which director dodd and i have discussing in terms of items for discussion at that session.

not only is it a fiduciary responsibility information that we've asked our good counsel to begin to pull together. it was a very extensive session about. it was another session on various trends, economic and healthcare trends that plan fiduciaries and planned designers and administrators need to be aware of. one of the areas to me also very interesting was the fact that there was a session on specialty drugs and a mystery, if you will about how indeed they are developed and priced. for us to pay for. this is been a central question for most multiple employer plans across the country and we been experiencing. as well and it's been a big issue at the state. so, i'll be happy to share the content of the sessions with any of the members of the board. i downloaded a number of the presentations and plan to send

those over to catherine and her team so they can share them with the rest of the board, and wider as necessary. earlier this week, director dodd sent as a wall street journal article. it summarized a bit of the full report of the academy of actuaries, american academy of actuaries report, which was released on august 5. so delighted to see our actuary out there, neil, i want to tell you i went i read the full report, neil. i'm going to send electronic version of that to kathryn because i think it's warrant some review by all members of the board. it is in english. it is in english. there's not a lot of formulas in it or anything else. it's really a very excellent summary of trying to find the drivers

behind core medical inflation and the cost related to that more broadly across the country. it would be worth our while to kind of have that in our background as a prep piece, if you will, for the november form that were going to be having. so it can serve as a springboard for that get the wall street journal did a fine job in summarizing it, any actuarial report i think will give you a little more detail about how that-how they to some of the summary points, that particular link came from the international employees benefit plans on base. that's how i found. it just was one of those things as part of their daily updates. we are all members of that group and so you'll be getting an e-mail daily from them. a lot of the stuff does not apply to is that you can skip right there. occasionally, there are these articles that are there. there is also a report that has come across my attention by a consulting firm by the name of deloitte. not a

small firm. it is a survey on consumer behavior for people that are participating in exchanges. it's the first such nationwide report on that issue. some of the conclusions might tend to be surprising to some folks well people are going just to go to the exchange to get it insurance covers. every some of the early indicators are that people are trying to make informed choices about various kinds of services, that they are indeed, trying to inquire about preventative care and how it's to be utilized in their circumstance for themselves or family, and there are other things that we would want to assume that people are doing around how they are using their health benefits. day in and day out. doctors visits, owing to the hospital, whatever happens today. so, this is

another piece that i'll send along to catherine for distribution, but i think it's an enlightening starting point because in my mind, the question is, are members doing similar things? we are seeing things in this particular larger arena that might be very useful and the question is, can we learn from that and encourage our members to do likewise. sauce on that along to everybody for your perusal. lastly, as far as my report, it is my great privilege and honor to say that we have a full health services board. i expect a little pause reaction around the table. with the appointment of dr. stephen elliott-good i'm

not going to recite his entire resume, but he's had a very very distinguished medical career here in the bay area. more recently, at kaiser, but also part of the uc system serving at uc san francisco. he has taught in medical schools. he's done very special work in hiv and aids research. he has served as a medical leader in many many dimensions, both here locally, weaselly, and nationally. i am honored that you were willing to take time out of your day to be a part of our group, and i look forward to working with you commissioner falkenstein. do you have anything you'd like to say? >> college essay is actually a privilege to be asked to join this board. i've been a resident of san francisco since 1977 and in practice here i started my training internal medicine at ucsf at that point, and retired in february of last year. so, 30 some odd years of medical practice. i would say that i practice in essentially

every hospital in the city, after which don't exist anymore. it wasn't my fault. partial halo, french i could go on and on. i was cheap that staff at davies. i spent half of my professional career in what we call fee for service. but starting in st. luke's and then in 1998 joined kaiser in the discipline of infection diseases and hiv medicine that i was also president of the dental medical society for agent. i really feel this board and the medical community that very well into my own passions. i hope to learn a lot from every single person in this room. that's what's fun about this. thanks >> thank you commissioner. we will look forward to working with you. so with that, that concludes the president's record in alaska there's any public comment?

>> good after good afternoon commissioners. claire-president of retired employees and a former member of this board. i like first of all to welcome the doctor. it's really wonderful to see a full board again and it sounds like you're the kind of experience that will be helpful and beneficial to all the members and two other members of the board. so welcome. i also want to comment you, commissioner scott, going to and the conference finally. it was something that we did a lot more when i was on the board in earlier days,, when the city's budget was so bad that all travel and training was removed from most budgets, are board get into the traveling to those conferences anymore, and the staff couldn't even though i think our travel and was to be paid out of the trust. but, it's very important. there's much to be

learned in those conferences and i would strongly urge that we really, while there are a number of those presentations that are available electronically, there is something much more valuable in the person to person, the actual conference to beat it. it sounds like you discover that. because you interact with others. you find out who knows what and who doesn't. just that, networking, milling around, when everyone called is extremely valuable. we also previous commissioner went through quite a career in the public domain within-because he served on our board and is also work for whatever actuaries. so i think the possibilities are there and i'd like to encourage everyone to take advantage of those conference opportunities. the ones that are specific to public-not public health, but our public lands. they are the most beneficial and they're so

much to be learned. so, thank you very much. it's very interesting to hear the information that you presented and i look forward to trying to access some of that good i just want to add likely, retirement board yesterday did it five-year demographics report. i think while their populations are not the same, there is some very valuable information available on that report. i can get it electronically or be happy to share it. >> thank you very much. excellent. we look forward to receiving it if we can. thank you. is there any other public comment? hearing none, item for >> item for discussion item. directors report. director.. >> catherine.director of health services. my report is behind tab for. much like we have a complete health service board we are very close to having a complete hsf staff. we are in the final stages of

filling the graphic artist position, which is woefully needed. since we added bonus, rosemary, our communication manager's work has just quadrupled. so we did an initial interview and would do the final interviews on the 21st of this month. and have a graphic artist and an assistant person in place.. it just unfortunate we could not have done it. we the budget was signed into law on i think august 1 and we will have filled this position 21 days. this is record time for the city and county. but, a lot of the open enrollment work was done. nonetheless, we are also in the final process of hiring the analytics staff person was going to work on the claims database. we have with us to new staff people. marie,

murphy. read you want to read your and >> please stand. please stand. >> marie has a phd in sociology. that's not why i hired her. she's a research assistant for the departments. i will credit her with the eloquent testimony that in your book today on the codes on advanced care directives. we also have with us this should all-how to icy alaskan? i was right on. he is working on emerge to image 9.2. transition. we are delighted to have him. he has years of experience with kaiser. so, >> welcome. >> jeff kleiner, who is not here, after 25 years, we promoted into senior eap and were adding a staff position in eap. this is the first time would increase staff for employee assistance program in 12 years. the operations manager, our new operations

member services manager will begin on august 17. he will be at the next board meeting and he comes from usc w has lots of experience. and we will continue to keep two positions empty per the requirement of having attrition savings in the budget. which is kind of ironic. nonetheless, were almost fully staffed. maybe someday we won't have to keep positions empty. in terms of operations, all customer goals were met. i just want to point out, we stopped 17 people on the holdover list. that's down significantly since i came. for those of you who don't know what the holdover list is, if you are laid off, you get health benefits at the same benefit rate you have for five years. that's for you and your

dependents. every year we are required to make them certify that they don't have access to other coverage. so nothing for people actually have other coverage. because they found other work. open enrollment, preparations begin in june and we are in the midst of editing and editing. the changes include the new united healthcare national lapd ppo. they also include the new fsa vendor for our fsa's. we implement the cobras in july. we are doing what they call six meetings as we convert to peoplesoft 9.2. so there've been several of those trying to make sure that transition goes smoothly. i think it significant to say we enrolled 700 new retirees in the last two months. so, that's

a huge amount of work for our benefit staff. i'm going to skip through other than to say among you all approved the budget for the enterprise contract management solution, and that was approved yesterday. now all we have to do is select a vendor and start scanning and it's very exciting. i'm waiting for years for that. the web statistics are in your binder. finance wise, we went before the board of supervisors. we responded to the board of supervisors budget analyst two-and were successful in having a majority of our cut being stored and restored and we want for the board of supervisors and i was approved and the funding on electronic contact management system was what was in jeopardy. so it's

exciting to actually see that come to fruition. in your binder, you will recall you requested that wellness present to you every quarter. stephanie fisher, i wellness manager, is that eight data analytics training in sacramento. she cannot be here. she asked me to highlight a couple of things. so in the mitre ar in the binder are to reports. the highlights include that we had to 93 unique participants in the first quarter of the year. and for 90 in the second quarter of the year. in the health wellness center. eap served 61 new contents and continues with 95. so that's another place where i just have to comment dhr.. they really are moving requisitions through quickly. deposition, jeff was promoted on monday and we had the position filled within two

weeks. so hopefully, this will continue. we have a fitness event that attracted 270 people in three hours. it went through 10 different stations of things that can do. that is like. the key thing is we were new people. there were the same people that come to our classes. i want to thank the vendors who all came. the provided activities and handouts . we have recruited an additional 64 wellness champions in different departments. we now have well over 120 of them. stephanie fisher presented the accomplishments of the wellness program, and the well-being assessment. we all took that well-being assessment last december. they finally calculated all the data and presented it by department. so, you were at a meeting that the mayor called. you were given a

report on what percentage of your employees took the well-being assessment, and what the well-being assessment said. so, were people-did they want help and stress management class undernutrition? helping exercise? help do they want to work environment to improve? not only did you get the results, but she then-she and her staff-tthen gave you suggestions of what you can do to address the issues that showed up in your data. she offered to meet with department heads and she met with several already especially the large department heads. to go over specific ideas and things they can do to respond to the well-being issues that came up in their department. i just will say, lucille attended the event and kind of got all the department heads excited. not that lucille is up--lucille

from the giants. not that she is the picture of health. but she was lithe and at the meeting. the diabetes prevention program research study that we are doing with kaiser, that has been submitted. it was approved. to the irb. so that study will disseminate effectiveness of a worksite wellness online intervention versus a group intervention intervention to prevent diabetes good were getting ready to mail several departments employees and have people take the test again to do a pre-diabetic screening metabolic syndrome screening. i did want to highlight in rosemary's reports on the eap services. i want for my new the increase. the number of people, even though gene retired after over 25 years of service. in

the wellness center visits, i think what is interesting is that we've had new people. these are people that are not previously engaged. so, that's always exciting. the interactive seminars decreased. township your seminars. because of fewer seminars. but they included nutrition by taliban. managing stress dealing with difficult people. understanding or metabolism. we are really getting the word out there so people know how to manage their health. i have also included just a statement on the 12th parity law that insurance are not the filling of promise. marie murphy will be working on querying all of our vendors to really say, how

do you define mental parity and are retreating mental health the same rate we are treating physical health. mental bonuses, as you know, is a chronic illness. in response to the chairman's request, we've implemented an e-mail address and phone number for the board and we did have responses because we made that public at the medicare meetings. so, i put one of them that came-those go to-gratefully. the board now has kind of a sounding board for people. i will point out in terms of vendor issues, the uh see is in the final stages of negotiating a contract with john muir. there are 28 claimants that might be effective should they not be successful in negotiating a contract, but maybe they're not

sending anything appear they're not required by law to. we don't have a managed care plan there. i've added some items of note. let me just go back for a moment to data analytics. it actually entered our first set of data. after you know, it was this time last year you were approving the abcd and we now have data and we are actually -it's exciting to have entered data. that's from marina was also at that time. >> if i might, in terms of a telephone number for the hss board. i like to at least have that part of this broadcast. >> absolutely part of this broadcast. >> absolutely part of this broadcast. >> absolutely >> 415-554-0662. the e-mail is health.service.board. at sf

dog.org. >> thank you. i just added some items of note. you referred to them earlier to my commissioner scott. the mergers and it positions continue both at the insurer level and at the provider level. the largest ever is the anthem is acquiring cigna. it's still being contested in terms of monopoly power. but it will-it shows that the market is narrowing down for from five dollars to three. in terms of the insurance market. uht will remain the largest in terms of revenue, but anthem will have a larger customer base once-if this goes through. this continued uncertainty about seton hospital, which is where many of our patients are admitted. the daughters of charity secured $259 from blue

mountain is going to operate a health system. that's a nonprofit for three years after which they could acquire the chain and transition it to a for-profit system. so, that's the current plans for seton. average california. you may hurt has increased their rates by 4%. interestingly enough, the medicare trustees report, which referred to earlier, is saying that medicare policy are going up 4.2%. that's the range were looking at. last week, for the third time since the passage of the affordable care act, the cms-the federal government produced their readmission penalties and that's one of the key indicators of quality care. one of the things we monitor in our organizations. among hospitals that were find include sutter, oscillates, summit. summers

seep into the centerrenzo. kaiser south of san francisco. st. francis usf el camino and johnny are good i went to the listenable to where we had patients. no one is perfect. that's how cms is funding things. i know additional items other than i will be out of the country the next two weeks. mitchell, who will hopefully be back tomorrow, will be in charge. april financial officer will be in charge of all things finance. i'm fairly confident over that amount >> thank you, director.get any questions from the board regarding any aspect of the report? is there any public comment? hearing none, we will accept the report as given. we will move to discussion item

number five. >> item 5, discussion item ages just financial reporting as of ages just financial reporting as of may 31, 2015. pamela levin. >> i would like to take this public opportunity to knowledge the tremendous work effort of catherine and her team. in preparation of the budget and its submissions and all the interactions that go on to get that monster done. i thank you for that. i commend you for your hard work. i'm pretty a pretty positive outcome after we went through it all. so thanks. >> thank you. payment of 11 deputy director chief financial officer. i do want to take a minute to introduce our new >> i'm sorry. >> contracts manager. she started in june and has coalesced so well with the team that seems like she's been here for long. >> her name is?

>> amara marilyn. >> would you please them. well, welcome to hhs. >> thank you. today i'm reporting on the revenues and expenses of the employee benefit trust fund. also known as the trust fund and the general fund administrative budget. through may 31 as well as fiscal year ending objections through june 30. where we are right now, just kind of in broad generalities, is that the fiscal year closed on 30 june. there are still transactions that are being processed and we always are behind a month in terms of its report. however, the projections that we have here are the general fund our actual actually based on last week and it was absent just a couple of

transactions. the trust fund is the audit is started, and we think we are going to bounce around where are at and what are present in the report. the audit won't be concluded until october, and i believe that it will be presented to you in december. the balance of the trust fund on june 30, 2014 was 92.8 and right now we are projecting and right now we are projecting at 70.5 million. it will be similar between that and 80 million. i believe at the end. the projected decrease of fort 14.3 million includes the reserves for unpaid claims and as a result of the following changes: city plans has a 3.4 million decrease in fund balance. this is attributable to 2.2 million

increase in fund balance and offset of 5.6 million decrease in fund balance. we have had favorable claim experiences. we've had pharmacy rebates. but, what we did was we used some of the fund balance, 1.2 million, subsidizing the 2014 rate so that was the first half of fiscal year 14-15, and then we also used 3.7 million were the 2015 rates, which is the second half of 14-15. then, we had also used .0 7 million without funding premiums in 2014 bringing in the 93-93-83 contribution model. you will note,, if you remember, we get by down the 16 rates also for

city plans. the flex plan to my right now we are seeing a decrease of 17.2 million in fund balance. i hope we have 2.5 million in pharmacy rebates, that is offset by a 19.7 million decrease in fund balance. associated with 12.7 million unfavorable claims experience, we are monitoring that on a very regular basis. having discussions with the aco's, and trying to improve or reduce claims or claims expense in the amount were paying out for claims. there is also a 4.9 million associated with subsidizing the 2015 rates from the claims stabilization reserve. then, 1.1 due to the

use of erp funds. other seems to be is in the past because a lot of it occurred in the first half of 14-15. fiscal year versus calendar year, and plan your. then, there was $1 million associate with funding premiums in the 2014 plan year for unions, except 93-93-83 contribution model knows from the last part of the 2% the shield profit pledge. other balances that are attributed -contributing to the 14.3 million decrease, overall decrease, in fund balance, is we have-there's always send him. this is the dental insurance plan. even increase in fund balance with favorable claims. kaiser and blue shield

insurer hmo plans. we have an increase associated with that premium revenues including the use of er which reduce members premiums. we have an increase in interest, $.7 million due to the cash balance that we've been carrying, including the erp funds that we know ended in the end of 2014. forfeitures, we've had a decrease in fund balance associate with transfers to the general fund. to the general fund. to the 14-15 budget. that, for performance guarantees, we have a $.4 million increase in fund balance. we are working with--to make sure we are cover all required deserts. we do this during the process of the audit of the financial statement. overall, we are in a

healthy state for the trust. not overly healthy, but not unduly healthy. so, just where i'm fairly comfortable with it. in the general fund administrative budget, we projected a balance of 1.3 million by year end. this-a lot of that is due to delays in hiring. we have asked for carryforwards or we will. it's in the process. 200,000 in professional services. 70,000 in work orders. so, the general funds-ounce of 1.8ounce of 1.80 million will be turned to the general fund it as i mentioned, there still some offsetting entries that are being put into the system, and i monitoring those very carefully. are there any questions? >> questions by members of the board on any aspect of the financial report? >> maybe one question on the

$12.7 million unfavorable variance with blue shield, to have a sense of whether that is from i merely an issue related to price of services was at issue more related to volume services? >> neil. outlast the actuary to come in. i think it's kind of a combination of goals. i think more so than we are not been successful in keeping people out of the emergency room. there's not a good sense of making sure that the services are given in the appropriate venues. for instance, there is some-i mean, my senses there still some surgeries done in patient that should be outpatient. there's a lot of discussions about length of stay has increased. there's a lot of bouncing about. one of

the things we did have was the 12% increase due to sutter. during the negotiations, when they stop talking blue shield and sutter stop talking we ended up having to pay the sutter hospital rates which were 12% more than we would've paid otherwise. we are not seeing the type told that aco's had in-when the aco's first started. neil, j do you have any comments? >> please introduce yourself. >> neil kosher. aion ashtray for health systems check that the question was volume versus price. >> yes. their answer is there is an increased volume and prices have gone up. to add to

what your cfo spoke to, i would say cost specifically specialty drugs, escalated in this time period with several fc drugs coming on board. his increased cost specific to just that. by an estimated 4 million of that $12. it's representative of that is the other issues and the fact that the aco though we are optimistic on a performance the level we should've started with. so those are several of the drivers. >> so, it was a common there was a 12% price increase by sutter as well? >> the 12% price increase there was one month in discussion about how they were going to go for because they had separated ways for the negotiation. they were trying to reset their contract. the blue shield-sutter hospital conjugate we did see that experience that was a one-month do. any other questions? >> no. any other questions from the board?

>> during that time am a do, we've seen a couple real serious cases that contribute to the increase in the medical claims. >> i did not hear. what? >> some very serious cases in which-claims. >> claims. okay. all right. >> i will just say this. we been getting quarterly of reports on fellowship and because of the worst dismal report were now can be meeting with her monthly. i'll just give you an example. when we looked at the average length of stay,, which is above what was when we started, i asked about discharge planning and utilization management and

brown and towing and sutter discharge planners only work 9-55 days a week. i made the suggestion that healthcare and recovering and being discharged was a seven-day week probably ten-hour day. hopefully, they will take some instruction >> when is your next meeting with them? >> the phone meeting on him i think it's september 5. it just got set. >> be sure that i'm notified? >> absolutely. >> thank you. thanks for a much. any public comment court on the financial report? hearing none, we'll move to item number six. >> item 6, action item, approval of testimony on cms regulations regarding reimbursement codes for dance care planning. dir. god.

>> catherine, as you begin to do this, and again, as were these points of continuing education, there are any number of policy issues that are-.com by way or out in the broader arena of discussion. catherine has tried to-whether it be at the state level or federal level, at least register it perspective from our point of view. some of these, is a large employer, we need to be active in. so, it's a matter of why are we worried about reimbursement stuff from cms. what the devil does that have to do with the city and county of san francisco? well, these policy questions begin to translate into real dollars and it comes to how cost are driven, other managed and how they're determined. so, it's quite appropriate that we comments were given the opportunity.. more poorly, as

we have been doing more recently, seek out the opportunities. so, with that, please. >> thank you commissioner scott. you all recall during healthcare reform there was a proposal to include medical reimbursement for position counseling and ecologic care. it was used as a campaign hot potato. >> death panels. >> just be clear what were talking up. >> with that behind us, cms very appropriately put forth to reimbursement codes. they're called cpt codes. allowing for the billing of time spent with patients discussing the critical matters at the end of life, which are often called advance care planning and advanced directives. i will also have attempted to put in our performance guarantees with our vendors what percentage of your of our members in their

electronic health records and because there's no building to date for this issue, it's not-no one counted. you have to go back and go record by record and do searches for the words to find it. so, giving this a billing code will allow us to measure our vendors in terms of how well they are doing and having this important information in medical records. so, i will just say that we commented, as i pointed out or we get a very beautiful job on the issue that families face. it helps families prove quality of care. it also saves money because the majority of medicare dollars are spent at the end of life. blue cross wisconsin is often cited. even 90% of all the people who lived in across wisconsin regardless

if they're over 18-year-olds there been a dance directive. it's part of their egos. their medicare spending is 25% less than medicare spending. in other places. so, the suggested rule said that we should do this counseling at an annual physical and when someone is sick. we are suggesting that we not limit it to that. if someone is-i offer you the example of kaiser that includes exercises of vital signs. you go in and get your blood pressure and temperature and your weight then they say, how often do you exercise and for how long. i always kind of go,-but maybe will begin to add, you don't have an advance directive on file would you like to make an appointment to discuss that with your primary care provider should that's the hope. regardless-your dance directives change depending on where you are in your life.

sometimes, you make one and you want to change it. we also recommended that they include actual training for the people who do this. that they not be allowed to be reimbursed for group settings. it's individual counseling talking about people's individual circumstances. we encourage them to include nurse practitioners physicians, nurses and social workers in the reimbursement codes provided they have trained. we think that advance care directives should occur early and often so, we have before you the testimony and i think it's very thorough and i hope you recommend to send it forth to cms. >> either questions of the director on this topic? yes commissioner breslin

>> how do you have is is that in with palliative care would this be pallet of care? >> this would it would be palliative care. this is been about counseling care but, if i were very sick, and i did in advance directive, i might say i don't want curative care. i just want harriet palliative care. where i were very sick and i could say that in advance. you know, under these conditions, we included the reference to the physicians order for last sustaining treatment. under these conditions, if you cannot put me on a respirator or on oxygen to be me-make it easier for me to breathe come up that's okay but if i'm ever going to come off it, don't put me on it to begin with. it's talking about

how you want to be treated in advance. >> i understand appeared to have palliative care or do with coverage for pallet of care? >> pallet of care isn't a code or is enlisted in her evidence of coverage, but i believe all of our vendors practice palliative care. >> like special certificates for persons practice? >> yes. you can be certified. medical boards offer certification. >> then they would get paid? >> winner medical specialist you get paid a little extra through medicare. which is why they went first for the certification. >> oncology positions, internist to do-maybe you can speak to this dr. paul. >> yes. i'm not clear that there's additional billable reimbursement because one has

some specially training in palliative care. it probably-in my fall open for different organizations among fall under different payment schemes. you know, i do think this is really nice document from my perspective. in our measurable outcomes, and i think all the things that concern me, it's great to encourage cpd codes and all that cv into documents that the discussion happened, but the outcome if someone does have attorney up our healthcare has indicated advance directive and is a form in california called post. the position order for life-sustaining treatment. this is a legal document that allows any individual who is admitted anywhere to have his or her wishes honored even if the healthcare system they were taken to urgently isn't part of

their system. because it is a physicians order, even from a physician who's not on staff at that organization. it let me remind 98 was put on life support despite her two daughters vigorously opposing this. because the physician was not on staff. it was a different hospital and it took them several days to get their 98 motor off life support. this solves that. as we begin these discussions with more direct terms, those kind of documents did some concrete evidence that this is actually happening. as much as not about cost-saving. it's about caring out people wishes were dignified and. >> either other questions or comments from the board? is there any public comment? >> good evening. i'm going to

comment on how they been doing [inaudible].

>> thank you for those comments. are there other public comment? >> thank you. claire rcf says he says i'm writing the article for our newsletter, but i could be clear on this. i know that were probably going to encourage all our members to have these kinds of documents on file, but it sounds from this discussion that these are things that need to be updated regularly. you could put something on file and end up

with one set of directions, but as you pointed out, dr. dodd, if your life situation changes, you may want to change your directive. a lot of people forget to do that. we have a problem with retirement system would advocate to update their beneficiary. we have a lot of problems like that. so, i am wondering if it's-and some people don't want to have that document on file. they prefer to have their representative hang onto that so that it circumstances present themselves they can come forward and say here's the directive and what we do or don't. i like a little more clarification on white be the most prudent way to do this and how we would also make sure that members understand that if they do put this kind of document on file needs to be regularly reviewed and updated better latest wishes are what i most accurately reflected. times, when they go in when

their health changes, they're not a position necessarily to do that changing either. so, whatever additional insight you can provide would be very very helpful because i like to put that in our articles. i? >> director doug,.com point >> on page 5, claire, it talks about frequency and under what conditions. you can probably take out language and put it right into your newsletter. >> also, just like we do with everything else during open enrollment season annually, the mighty that trigger. we talk about updating beneficiaries and doing all these other things. maybe that something might want to call out is another health item to be checked as a person is doing these other things. it just a notion. >> is in all of our guides. >> very good. are there any other public comments on this item? if not, i'm willing to

entertain any motion. >> i move we approve the testimony on cms regulations regarding reimbursement codes prevents care plan. >> it's been properly moved that we accept and approve this item. is there a second? >> second >> it's been properly moved and seconded that we accept this item. is there any discussion by the board? a public comment? hearing none, seeing none, no public comment were now ready to vote. all those in favor say, aye. opposed, nay. >>[gavel] >> so ordered. item 7 >> item 7, action item, apartment of committee chairs and members for fiscal year 2015-2016. pres. scott >> happily. happily. happily. we now have a full board and are able to announce the appointments of the respective chairs of the standing committees for the health

system's board. i would like to call to your attention the yeoman work done by our chair and governance. commissioner breslin. last year. i had the good fortune to participate somewhat in that work. along with the former commissioner. so, where it says position commissioner currently vacant, commissioner folstein. that's you. >> i gathered >> as of this record. that group does not limit her issues in a be doing with a short term. for the finance and budget committee, i've asked commissioner lim to chair that committee. commissioners for oregano and sass will be members of that committee at either good fortune of being ex officio to everything as well, when i can. now, you may or may

not recall that we had additional committees that were part of our former governance structure. tools membership and something called rates and benefits. all those have been folded into the work of the board itself. we meet as a committee am a whole as when those items are due to be discussed. we thought that was a more efficient way administratively to talk about those topics, because at the end of the day, it's everybody piling in to my if you will on those topics. it does not mean that they will in any way be subject to less scrutiny that supports an oversight in the work that we will be doing. so, with that, i would entertain a motion to accept the approval of these appointments for the ensuing year. >> i move we set these appointments. >> is there a second

>> second >> it's been properly moved and seconded that we accept the approve the apartments as outlined in the agenda. any comments from the commissioners? questions? any public comment? hearing none, and seeing none, no public comment were ready to go. all those in favor say, aye. opposed, nay. >>[gavel] >> so ordered. we are ready to move to either made. >> item 8, discussion item. introduction to voluntary benefits am a director dodd. >> thank you good you have a memo that i sent to the chairman. we have not, in the past, provided voluntary benefits to anyone besides the miscible executive association. it's part of their mo you. every year i get calls from

different department head saying, the summary with a card table in our lobby trying to sell us some kind of insurance. are they part of your shop. these, i don't use a derogatory term-these companies try to tag along with her open enrollment season but they also pop during the year. they talk they tell people they need to buy disability insurance or long-term care insurance or any number of the kinds of insurance. i think more and more, having that availability where weekend that the actual vendors were we contact a vendor who that's the vendors, is really important and something that, whether the device or even pet insurance, where we want to be able to offer that protection to our members. we get calls same such

and such insurance company isn't doing this. i've been off for four weeks and we will say, well, we don't administer that particular kind of insurance. so, the idea here is to make voluntary benefits available to all employees of the city and county. and have people feel better sense of protection. this would not cost us anything. it would be additional administrative work or both are finance and benefit staff. there is a cost, but it's not a seven dollar per member per month. it's a work cost. i hope that you will agree that we should go forward and do this. >> to this point, as director dodd and i talked about this, you have these folks that do

show up at these odd moments. they look very official and many of them are well intended that got all the appropriate whatever's. but this is not a matter of the health services system taken on an endorsement of these vendors. i want to be very clear about that. we are trying to, in some systematic way, determine if people do show up, who they are and what they are representing so that we can indeed, if called upon, communicate that to the members of the system. so, this is not about us endorsing these vendors or the benefits that they are often bit i want to be very clear about that. they have these kind of random acts of presentation with no context whatsoever. it's also not serving anyone and we don't want our members to become prey , if you will, to kind of the outcome of whatever the folks are marketing. so, it's a matter of trying to put some structure around it and i think until we are little more systematic about collecting data

and thinking through how we bet these and i would communicate about it, were still get a be stuck in this twilight zone. this is a first step in that process. it will come back for further discussion action as it might require. so, that just my two cents worth to add on to what the director said. are there any questions by any of the members were any commissioners at this point on the subject but >> had a question. is there any history of this happening within the city and county where they either hire a vendor to that people who set up tables for any reason in public spaces? it seems to me-it seems a little bit of a can of worms in terms of opening up-but they cut benefits. do we have a-do we allow one vendor or do we have have a minimum of three vendors to provide pet insurance? how

do we know who's done the vetting. who do the employees call if they have a problem with their pet insurance? do they call even though we say no, we are not involved, what we have been involved. he put ourselves in their come i think. i'm confused. >> thank you for the question. that's the situation as it is today. anybody can set up a table. some of the unions, police and fire in particular, have long-standing payroll deductions with a couple of these vendors. in an effort to expand their market share, they then show up at a lobby of the mta board whatever. wherever they cannot get shootouts. she wouldn't not choose. there have been problems with what's been offered. what we will do is i

quasi-rfp to select to what's called an aggregator who does that the vendors. then want to work with the emerge and there will be a payroll deduction. if there are problems, caused ma may come to us bu it will be a vendor we have said has been vetted by her aggregator, whoever that ends up. then, we will deal directly with that organization. right now, municipal executives hasn't been called employee benefits specialist. they offer wellness good they offer accident insurance. they offer long-term and short-term disability insurance. there's a problem with those insurances, and they call our staff, our staff will call boy benefit specialists and employee benefit specialists will fight it out with that insurance company on

our employees behalf. so, it really is protection idea. >> other questions? there is more to come on this, but is there any public comment? >> thank you commission did not speaking for myself. in nearly 40 years experience with the city, i've encountered this problem. numerous times. a number of different issues. one is that also local 21 has employee benefit specialist analyst on cafeteria plan some things they offer that are similar to mba. they are, i think those are the only today have any specific going on. a lot of this has to do with whether or not department heads will give permission for anyone to be on-site to solicit employees. sometimes it's the

manager of that worksite that is being approached. sometimes it's through the unions. sometimes it's through nefarious means. not to talk about it but i've seen a number of things over the years with regard to access to city employees. there is a rule,, i believe, that exists that says basically, no one is supposed to have access to city employees, especially during wartime. but this rule is continuously violated and has been for the four years i've been work working with the city. this issue has come before health service before. again, we sent out notices to department heads to other managers, indicating that these are not benefits that are supported by our system. these are not benefit section by our system. the payroll system is a big issue with all this because they were not going to give any more payroll slots. so that may be a hurdle. i don't know if her beyond that these days with the emerge. but there's a long long history. this was going on long before i start with the city four years ago. it sounds like it still continues. it's

really a matter of having the research and dialogue to work with the union. most of our unions, it represents to the employees, also have an aggregate of other services that they offer to their unions. then they make those available to their members. members are not always sure that those services come through their unions, and not to the city especially if they get a payroll slots. that's kind of what house people, that they think it comes through us. because it's off on their payroll. therefore, it must be sanctioned by the city. it's not sanctioned by the city is not sanctioned by the health service boards. it's just that-it might've been for example, for some of these benefits that were granted to a different union that the payroll slot was available and someone else was able to use it. so there's all kinds of subtleties involved here. i

think you will find as you go along, there will be many hurdles to overcome and that you have to have a lot of dialogue to find out these companies are, who has already vetted them and who is providing those services. it may be that maybe health service would want to touch it. by the way, there's a typo.. i had to point that out. a typo in the last sentence on the memo. that will be administered. i think it should be dead. that's the enemy, >> thank you very much. other public comment? >> dial-in or look resenting the uf retarded as did i just a question. you would go with a plan like this anywhere with things like certain wellness programs or pet insurance. would you be excluding retirees from taking advantage of any of this? >> this is an active member benefit. because it has to be deducted from payroll check on a specific line. so, yes.

>> other public comment? your name, please. >> stephanie johnson and i think that >>

>> [inaudible] >> thank you for your

comments. any other public comment? hearing none, number that concludes this item. for discussion. as i said, there'll be more to come. we may find, given the level of complexity in the ins and outs of this particular issue, it decide to do nothing. that's also a possible outcome here. item number nine. >> item 9, discussion item. report on network and health plan issues. if any. vic do we have any plan representatives here that wish to bring any ring to our attention at this time? i said this at our prior meeting, but i will say it in their absence. we thank them for their hard work in working with us and with our staff and with the actuary to get ready for open enrollment which will be happening shortly. again we

thank them for their continued work with us. number 10 >> item 10 discussion item opportunity to place items on the future agenda. >> just as a heads-up, i guess i can do this now at this part of the meeting, catherine, will probably not be meeting in the month of october. they'll be on a future agenda. we are looking forward to having a board for quorum in november. will be working diligently to frame some areas are both education and information of the board might as well as, we hopefully the general public likes to watch the pursuit. on a wide range of topics. it is my firm belief that we kind of get into the cycle and becomes inside baseball. so, everyone's and in a while we need to stop and take a longer-term view and a wider view of some of the issues that are ahead of us not in

that meeting in november will be devoted to that. i hope that you will ask all your family and friends to come out and participate. we just don't have an empty chamber here. so that's just a heads up as we go forward about a broader schedule. are there any other public comments about future agenda items? >> herbert leitner. i think the idea of a public forum is wonderful idea. >> i want to be very clear i set up board form. >> a board form they'll be open to the public. >> okay. i think it's a wonderful idea, what time will be held >> it will be in a regular meeting slot is a tender plan at this juncture a lot more details as we go for. >> one concern i have is is don't people work during these hours and how much input are you going to get? i mean, i'm privileged position because a

retiree. now, most people work,. they may have concerns to. how will we get some input to this quorum? >> will try to address the concern is we do our plan. that's all i can do today. i? any other public comments on this item? hearing none, will move to item 11. >> item 11, discussion item, opportunity for the public to comment on any matters in the board's jurisdiction. >> is there any public comment on item 11 of the agenda? hearing none, and seeing none, we are ready to stand in adjournment until were next convened publicly. >>[gavel]you.

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>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that

dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth.

>> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up

into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in

small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this

thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances.

>> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested

is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for my name is randy shaw. i would

like to welcome you all to the tenderloin museum. [ cheers and applause ] >> and you know it's not a dream, it really exist. i brought joaquin torres and amy cohen a few weeks ago. i wanted his honest assessment. i said what do you think? he said, you know, i can't believe it's actually going to happen. that is a common thing. and i want to say right at the outset two people who are not with us today who i just want to acknowledge because without their infused spirit and legacy we wouldn't be here. one is lloyd cooper. many of you know that lee roy was a

long mentor of mine and from fall of 1979. we met with lee roy in his office and he was selling us this idea that tenderloin could be improved and here we are still doing it. it's quite impressive. the other one is cattle, whose wedding photo is here since 1985. he meant so much with my relationship with him because he opened the door to the sro community and became a major donor. we got many many people who care

about the tenderloin. you can see it on the board. it's the owners of the tenderloin, people like paul brushte and who dug into their pockets and said we believe in this museum. that's what's happened. i want to thank all of those who donated and for believing in us. we didn't think this was going to happen. thank you all. [ applause ] >> i go to a lot of these events and you can have people going on and on thanking each person. everyone here was invited. most of you need some support from the media. the media was great. you all deserve thanks. so please don't associate me not mentioning a person by name as not recognizing. there

are some people from institutions that i have to call out today. when we hear about pro bono assistance it can often mean a saturday having your staff paint or an architecture firm or it could mean 6 years on a project. i never forget. i feel like some of these folks like seth miser. it's like saying good-bye to the tin man. we've been working on 6 years of working on this museum. perkins and will's contribution. the number of the architecture and design. i do want to call them out. and, [ cheers and applause ] i didn't forget that. there was

a series of architects who were working the set and this had to do it during a construction period was matsushida. you did all the the stress work. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> and then of course we had to have someone supervise construction. and everyone knows contractor stories and people have the horror stories from their house and wherever you go when you go a people have that story. we don't have that story because we use webcor. you cannot believe the professionalism, the quality. eric was sending e-mails multiple times seven 7 days a week. the organization of this project could never happen without

webcor's pro bono support and the dedication of those individuals. we want to call them out and thank them. [ applause ] is rodrigo sanity -- santos here. i asked him to give us a price on engineering and he said i'm not giving you a price. i'm doing it for free and he did. [ applause ] our favorite designer is rob duncan here? i saw rob earlier. i know rob is here. all the great designs, all the great retail stuff was all designed by rob. rob would occasionally ask for a very small check which no where near covered his cost. it covered the museum design and we got at the elite

international firm. thank you, rob. [ applause ] i also want to thank our great hero, my hero john burton for coming. great hero for coming. john and i took a driving tour back in 2010 where he pointed out to me all the places he used to gamble and drink in the tenderloin. [ laughter ] and he remembered them. and also i want to thank tom and ron at pbi for going far beyond the call of duty. thank you very much, both of you. [ applause ] so again, i'm not thanking everyone else as well but i want to get to the presentation. a lot of things happened on the morning i -- mayoral's

watch. it happened because of mayor lee's watch. people asked me who supports this museum. if i said our biggest supporter is mayor lee. he's been with us the entire time and he believes in the tenderloin. what's interesting is all of us who you see here, we all have a long history, but what i learned in researching my book and for this museum is that mayors haven't done very much for the tenderloin in history. they talk a good game and come down for ribbon cutings and they give a lot to non-profit housing, but when it comes to this, it's been 15 years. we got lucky that mayor lee became mayor. i

have to say when you look at the help we got from the mayor's office, and when steve comes, he never comes to an event. steve came to this event and the support he gave to us. of course amy cohen and joaquin and someone who gave as much help, jeremy. i wish we had a closed circuit so jeremy knows all the help he gave us. that happens with mayor's in the title. that doesn't happen if you don't have a mayor who says i want all the staff to help the tenderloin. ed lee did that. wow further a do, mayor, thank you very much. [ applause ] >> randy, thank you for the introduction. >>mayor edwin m. lee: this is what a sizzler's restaurant looks like. [ laughter ] >> you have to know that part

of the history in order to appreciate that line. we certainly do. and those who have been in the tenderloin for many years serving the residents here. i think you are all to be congratulated. i know there is an abundant list of people. but i also want to acknowledge those that maybe do not have a big name but are the small business owners within two or 3 blocks from here that said we want this to happen. every police officer that has served this district wanted this to happen. firefighters who have come through here wanted this to happen. nurses, i have a lot of nurses and medical health professionals wanted something here to happen. it shouldn't surprise all of you that when it comes to the tenderloin, when it comes to revitalizing areas in the central market, historically depressed areas, it takes not only the great

ground leadership that randy has provided for many years. you have to give randy a huge huge [ applause ] here. [ applause ] talk about this. if i had anything do with it is only because he convinced, he was there and you have a reading. this is our history. this is why we came to study law and do civil rights and work in the communities like this. no different way i feel about chinatown and north beach and some areas we worked historically together. but i will also say beyond kind of taking care of our own roots and the people we believe in and giving them the level of respect, i enjoy working with the people you just named. we are working together now today to house what is on the front pages of homeless population and they are doing a terrific

job and they are freeing up master leasing with as many units as they can. they are finding us to be more incredible partners on these very challenge populations that have a lot of issues and they are centered in central market and tenderloin and we want to help them. i also want to say that in addition to them and the volunteers, there is just an incredible number of people that go unnamed and the staff. i want to also give another shout out to a group of people that continue i think to help revitalize all of san francisco but particularly the most challenging are artist. this museum is part of art. it doesn't surprise me that the museum is the idea that has now come forward

to attract investor confidence, to bring people together. and i'm looking at karen from the arts and naomi, the city administrator who was in my previous role in trying to figure out what joaquin and amy and others and how we continue to work with the arts to revitalize and bring forward life because when you have nothing, you still got art. you got a history to talk about. so when we had all of those meetings at the wonderful hasteings college, they did a great partnership community and it was neat to tell those stories of what we needed others to do to get people involved. that's why i'm not surprised to explaining the idea of the uptown in the tenderloin in this fashion to be so sustainable

that a larger fate is happening particularly in the tenderloin area and we celebrated those milestones on a basin which is more and more to come. but there is investor competence that is also there. there will be companies that will i think appreciate this even more. that's why there is neighbor nest. that's created for low income families that are part of the technologies contribution. there will be more of that as the cba's get more life into the community benefit agreements and all the technology employees. they will not just go down larkin street. they are going to chairman and the bistro and they will say where is this museum and they will discover that and hopefully get into the jazz and cadillac hotel

again and hopefully into more jazz. as 400 mayor's discovered in one of their most enlightening sessions ever to join our memorial in that session. so there is to say a lot of things happening and it's just a matter of us linking it up, talking about it, and introducing more people to it. when we get the lighting down with the harlan's leadership on the lighting, the pathways are going to be better lit and you see people at the park providing for all the people that we want our parts to reflect. on valencia, that's going to sprout. you see ice cream in the middle of the tunnel coming. i can't wait for the day we serve free ice cream in the tenderloin. they deserve it. that will

be a lot of fun. there is a lot of new things happening and i think this is a moment to an attribute all the spirit of the people that have come here to make this happen. engineers, there is a reason why they are the most successful and good reputable contractor in the city. they are building the big downtown buildings but also help rehab lead with many others with this incredible museum. i can't wait when they start counting the numbers of people that come through here. because when they come through here, all the other shops you have to be exposed to. this is part of uptown tenderloin. it is part of the story, the history to arm themselves with so they will know what they are looking at and appreciate this entire part of our city that now is going to become an even bigger contributor. they have contributed. we just haven't recognized it. and

i know that muhammad and others, we struggled in our capacities for public works to allow pathways for more people to come here will continue doing that, but all the agencies are working together now in a much better rhythm because we appreciate the investments that are made here because this is going to cause more investments especially the investment in people and we are going to see more of that from our administration. the tenderloin is going to be a great story, but so is church street and bodega and central market and so much more of an investment for people who want to create a better place and time for a chance to celebrate and have this sharing for a lot more people. thank you for this milestone, but i am excited to

see this cause even more excitement in this entire community and randy, your leadership, your unfettered commitment to this. i want to say thank you from the entire district. [ applause ] >> i do want to mention that kevin louis is sitting in the third row. he and my paint job, we opened an art gallery for art a half block down 236 leavenworth street. and so many people said to me, who did this museum, it's so great. if you need someone to do a museum for you. steve is right there and give him your card and

he'll get a hold of you. so i'm very honored by the presence. we have the history on the walls and the history sitting here and reverend cecil williams. one thing i want to say about reverend williams, i have been in the tenderloin, i know him. i didn't know in 1963 there were only 35 families as members. he had a remarkable organizing strategy. i don't think anyone would have thought of it. he said we are going to hire a minister for youth who has no money. that's what he did. he led the power grass roots and organized this. how many knew that? how many read my books? [ laughter ] the legacy is so much more powerful in

the tenderloin. we are so glad you are here. do you want to say a few words? >> greetings, everybody. thank you men and ladies. thank you the people who put the time and effort and money. this is the most important thing that's happened in the city and county of san francisco. no matter what you are looking at and how you see it. this place certainly is something that is vital and will continue for years and years to come. and having said that, janis, i could not have done it without you. i'm telling the truth. [ laughter ] in fact she did before i did.

we did. what you don't know i will tell you. every inch of this, every group that came to san francisco, we had something to do with them in what they did in this city. you name it. we saw at nighttimes what you can probably see on television because we felt very strongly that the voice of those folks who came through san francisco, that led me to be here. we never gave in to their philosophy. we have philosophy and a commitment and an

unconditional love as a base. there were moments where it was getting pretty tight at times. actively came here. secondly, we had also to begin to relate closely and openly with gay and lesbian groups. we could find ways in this community, large population of gays and lesbians. that was very important. so we identified with whatever the movement was. so as a leader to the nation we responded to the gay and lesbian community. the third thing is i don't know if you know this or not but we have 10,000 volunteers who come through every year. that is something that is very critical. lastly but not least, you need

to know this, there is no doubt about it, right in the block from where we are located there are large groups of african americans. there is a large number of african americans in the tenderloin. large numbers. some of them they have problems and confront issues. they are ours and we are theirs. we will always be theirs and they will be ours, always. i want to hear him say, janis without your time, i don't know where i would be without you. [ cheers and applause ] [ laughter ] >> talking about all people

well generally i was going to open the first office in 1980. ed glide raised it to $75 a month and we said we can't afford that and right next door was a vietnamese community development center which started my work with do. remember we had some refugees who came to the tenderloin and started to transform the neighborhood and i worked with toe for 10 years until local 2 which is in the tenderloin. i thought the coincidence that you and i met in glide. toddo. [ applause ] >> being here just feels like so much coming home. although i never really left the tenderloin. i came

just a little bit from a personal perspective. i came to the lend lion when i was 18 and i'm 56 now and i'm still working on the tenderloin. working as the vietnamese youth development center what is under the leadership of lamb do you -- and the memorial church where we do a lot of community outreach. we provide after school. i was one of those youth that benefited from the program and north of market plan and coalition. i think we have one of our first southeast asian housing committee in the city because of the diversity of the members who live in here which is vietnamese

laotian and cambodia. we do our best effort to incorporated ourselves to learn about our right as a tenant and also we want to learn about being a part of the bigger picture of passing rent control. we have a lot of memories where we have our first picket line to protest one of the evictions. one of the buildings right here but we have a sad moment where i don't know if you remember where there was a person that died in the building. the cause because of the space between the floor and elevator and the space was too small. as a community we overcome a lot. the unite development center is providing youth with a different focus with technology and recreation that we when

you are growing up poor you don't have the opportunity but now growing up and you have the location. that is what we do and we also survive a lot of turmoil and that's what you do with us. and reverend i have to remember his name. when our community was going through a lot of turmoil with what's going on in our homeland we continued to be able to be about and provide the best service we can regardless of whether or not you are supporting the republican or supporting the reunification of vietnam today. i feel very much at home and thank you for all the work that everybody had done to continue to work the community forward. one thing i have to mention is that because a

lot of our members in local two become more self sufficient as working in the hotel because of the effort of you and randy from the planning coalition after making sure that these hotels when they build they are sure she hire a resident from this area. [ applause ] so some of our members graduated from here and able to provide a home and live better. i know they have a much better life. the tenderloin is a lot of memories for me and a lot of struggles and a lot of cobwebs as well. [ applause ] i should mention the cultural center used to be the waitresses union. it's the largest waitresses unit #

-- union in the united states. we are a big union area. many of you know kathy looper from here friday concerts. i worked with her as long as i have known lee roy and she's 79. everyday when we have our tours, which is really important for this museum because we want people to go out to the community and get to know the tenderloin. we have pam coats, one of our tour guided. kathy is also a tour guide. the first time i take everyone is through the cadillac hotel they are blown away because they hear negative things about the sro's. they

see it and they say is this the sro? because of kathy is the unsung hero in the tenderloin. kathy? [ cheers and applause ] >> that was all fully sweet. it's night to be in a room full of people who love the tenderloin. i have to tell you it's heart warming to be here and see this with this out pouring of support. when lee and i built this, it failed because it was an isolation. there wasn't enough around it to draw people in even just for a meal. if anybody knows me, you know i will get to the

point. we need your continued support. we need you to support serve -- every business. we need you to go to the museums, then go to one of our restaurants. randy has done an incredible job of bringing investment into this community. it's not just his job, it's our job. we have to do the same. we have to encourage people to come in and spend their dollars in our community, help support this community and this museum is a great entry way for people to do that. so, that's it. bring your pocket books. [ cheers and applause ] >> to continue on that theme because we don't have philanthropic support, we have all kinds of items for sale that

are sold in a museum. if you haven't bought any before, buy some today. getting people to come to the museum and pay the admission fee and to have them take the tours which we have on thursday nights. that could help. all of you who are inspired by this and talk the language by mayor lee and doddo is to talk about it. we need to you do that you can't just walk away and say that was fun, where is lunch and it's all forgotten. i have told people the story about how sitting down with gratsdz wealthy people and when they are with me it was a great idea but they didn't give any money.

when you are here you are excited and back home you are in another environment. if you just give to momma. we are working very hard to raise every dollar in the tenderloin. when you do that, it's great to be here. we have word of mouth and otherwise you have ways to go to the museum. our opening night event at 6:30. we have a rare extraordinarily rare assistance. if you see sierra strike and mark. susan striker and victor hernandez. victor the co- director will both be here

along with marching and veronica, the activist and if you want to know the gay and lesbian history of san francisco and where it began, it began here right in the tenderloin. cover charge covers the free wine. see you all here and in the future. thank you. [ applause ]

parks and places of communicated and thanks to the mayor and the department of technology and supervisor farrell and google. we had a very very unique partnership that was able to bring wifi to our most heavily used parks and squares. >> parks in particular are really important way of life and quality of life and so is connectivity. bringing those two things together in a project like this is right on target with what san francisco is and wants to be. >> it's all about breaking apart the divide. the people with expensive data plan can have access to information and economy. this is really breaking down the digital divide and giving people across the spectrum the opportunity to information and giving them mobility and freedom. >> particularly by investing in connectivity in park spaces we

are also ensuring the connection to digital inclusion opportunities and parks are designed for all neighborhoods. >> people are on the move. they are no longer chained to their desk tops at home. people can accomplish a lot and we prefer them being here an enjoying the outdoors and nature. given all the mobile community and mobile information that's available. we thought it was important to make it for our parks acceptable for everyone and give everyone the opportunity to live and to work and be at the parks at the same time. >> our full mission in life is to give them access to the internet, give them access to information. in san francisco you don't have to be bottled up in an office. you can be around and enjoy your work anywhere. it's great

for the local community here and it means a lot to me. >> in the park, you are people that can teach you about the trees in the park and you can go to parks and recreation .org and having wifi in our parks makes it more accessible. if you want more information about how to enjoy wifi in san francisco parks, go to >> hello, my name is jamie

harper. in this episode, we are featuring the park locations in your very own backyard. this is your chance to find your heart in san francisco with someone special. golden gate park's largest body of water is this lake, a popular spot for strolling and paddling around in boats, which can be rented. created in 1893, it was designed foreboding and -- for boating. it is named for the wild strawberries that once flores. a pleasant trail follows the perimeter past huntington falls, 110 foot waterfall. two bridges connect the trail to the island. the climb to the hills summit,

the highest point in golden gate park at more than four hundred feet. you can get quinces of the western side of the city through -- glimpes of the western side of city through a thick trees. the lake is ada accessible. it has a peaceful atmosphere where you can enjoy a warm day. walk along the lake and watched many ducks, and swans, and seagulls. it is a tranquil spot to stroll, enjoy each other's company, and sail away. many couples come here to take a ride around the lake, floating under the bridges, past the pavilion and waterfall. for a quiet getaway, it makes for a memorable and magical experience.

located on 19th avenue, this grove is the place to wear your hiking boots, bring your family, and bring the dog because it has so much to offer you and your loved ones. it is a truly hidden gem in the city. the part is rich with eucalyptus trees. long paths allow you to meander, perfect for dog walking in a wooded environment. >> i enjoy this base and the history behind it. the diversity that exists in such an urban city, the concrete, the streets, cars, we have this oasis of a natural environment. it reminds us of what san francisco initially was. >> this is a section for dogs and plenty of parking. transit is available to get you

there easily. and the part is ada -- park is ada accessible. there is also a natural lake. this is your chance to stroll and let the kids run free. it also has many birds to watch. it is the place to find some solitude from the city and appreciate what you share with a wonderful breath of fresh air. , an experienced this park and enjoy the peoples, picnics, and sunshine. this is a lovely place to take a stroll with your loved one hand in hand. located in the middle of pacific heights on top of a hill, lafayette park offers a great square a of a peaceful beauty.

large trees border greenery. it features tables and benches, a playground, restaurants, and tennis courts. there are plenty of areas for football, frisbee, and picnics. it is very much a couple's part and there are a multitude of experiences you can have together. bring your dog and watch the mean go with the community or just picnic at one of the many tables and enjoy all of the park has to offer. many couples find this is the perfect place to put down a blanket and soak up the sun. it is a majestic place you can share with someone you cherish. it is located along the 1 and 10 buses and is accessed from the 47 and 90 buses. it is ada accessible. for more information about reserving one of these

locations, call 831-5500. this number is best for special events, weddings, picnics, and the county fair building. for any athletic fields and neighborhood parks, 831-5510. you can also write us. or walking in and say hello at old lock cabin, golden gate park. and of course you can find more information and reach us at sfrecpark.org. (clapping.) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i think we have more companies anywhere in the united states

it's at the amazing statement we're not trying to be flashy or shocking just trying to create something new and original were >> one of the things about the conduct our you enter and turn your your back and just so the orchestra. the most contrary composer of this time if you accountability his music you would think he's a camera come important he become ill and it was crazy he at the end of his life and pushed the boundary to think we're not acceptable at this point for sure it had a great influence he was a great influence on the

harmonic language on the contemporary up to now. i thought it would be interesting because they have e he was contemporary we use him on this and his life was you kill our wife you get poisons all those things are great stories for on opera. i was leaving behind a little bit which those collaborative dancers i was really trying to focus on opera. a friend of mine said well, what would you really want to do i said opera what is it not opera parallel. why isn't it are that i have the support now we can do that. i realized that was something

that wasn't being done in san francisco no other organization was doing this as opposed to contemporary we are very blessed in san francisco to have organizations well, i thought that was going to be our speciality >> you create a conceptual idea for setting the opera and you spear ahead and work with the other sdierndz to create an overview vision that's the final product felt opera. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> i was very inspired to work with him because the way he looked at the key is the way i looked at sports looking at the daily. >> so much our mandate is to

try to enter disis particular work there's great dancers and theatre actresses and choirs we've worked with and great video artists is a great place to collect and collaborate. i had a model they have a professionally music yes, ma'am assemble and as a student i benefited from being around this professional on and on soccer ball and as a conductor i'd be able to work with them and it's helped my growth i had a dream of having a professional residential on and on soccer ball to be an imperial >> it operates as a laboratory we germ a national the ideas

technically and work with activity artists and designers and video all over the on any given project to further the way we tell stories to improve our ability to tell stories on stage. that's part of the opera lab >> i was to investigate that aspect of renaissance and new work so that's why this piece it is important it was a renaissance composer. >> there were young people that are not interested in seeing traditional opera and like the quality and it's different it has a story telling quality every little detail is

integrated and helps to capture the imagination and that's part of the opera how we can use those colors into the language of today. >> so one of the great things of the stories of opera and story combined with opera music it allows people to let go and be entertained and enjoy the music instead of putting on headphones. >> that's what is great about art sometimes everyone loves it because you have to, you know, really great you have to have both some people don't like it and some people do we're concerned about that. >> it's about thirty something out there that's risky. you know, disliked by someone

torn apart and that's the whole point of what we're drying to do >> you never take this for granted you make sure it is the best if you can. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ . >> this is the regular meeting of san francisco small business commission it is monday, august 10, 2015, and the time is sfoufks it is

televised thank you to the staff for televising today's meeting members of the public please silence our sfoenz and use of cell phones, please be advised that the chair may order the removal from the meeting room responsible for the ringing or use of a cell phone, pager, or other similar sound-producing electronic devices. speakers are requested 42 not required to submit a card please deliver the speakers to me and the sign-in sheet for those who want to be added to the mailing list mr. president, commissioner adams. commissioner dooley commissioner president dwight commissioner ortiz-cartagena is absent

commissioner tour-sarkissian commissioner white and commissioner yee-riley mr. president, we have quorum general public comment time, members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction and suggests new agenda items for new items and members of the public who wish to comment on tonight agenda >> in today is chronicle an article about the expansion of no cars on market street i don't think this is very good for small businesses small businesses that are on market street and small businesses that want to do business on market street no yellow zones on 349 for regular commercial vehicles only 6 wheeled vehicles if

you're a - i have a business that wants to drop off anything on market street from the golf course to the embarcadero it is on boeblt no white zones on market street so both businesses having people droufl technically no place to do that and also the new signs that are depicted using o consciousness not wording and the thing it says okay for commercial vehicles a 6 wheeled vehicle so it discourages people with regular four wheeled commercial vehicles i don't think that is very good for the small business community thank you. >> all right. thank you stephen well noted all right. any other members of the public would like to comment on anything not on this earnings agenda public comment is closed.

>> approval the july 2nd approval of the minutes. >> i motion second. >> commissioner adams made a motion>> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> item number 4 discussion and possible actions for the recommendations of the board of supervisors on bos file planning code establishing a new citywide transportation sustainability fee this is an ordinance amending the planning code by establishing a new citywide transportation sustainability fee and spending the impact fee with some exemptions as long as the fee a amenable added a independence to reflect those and amending section 6 for homeless shelter exemption from the sustainability fee making

and coming from amendments to the area plan fees and planning code article 4 and that's it presentation today is adam senior planner citywide planning division. >> if i may welcome. >> thank you if i may before we start, of course, this here this commission we're interested in what are the impacts on small business we're all familiar with the situation in the city don't need too much discussion on the growth effecting us we want to discuss and know what are the proposed fee changes and how they effect small business so thank you very much. >> thank you very much good afternoon good evening. i'm victor wise i'm the chief of staff for the sustainable streets mta i'm joined by two individuals from the planning code i was going to give you an overview but quickly move

through that to the question you've asked us about so power point please. >> thank you i will stick to the slides on growth you know all that about that the municipal transportation agency has been working hard to figure out how to accommodate all that growth and make sure the transportation system r067b89 part of the program the sustainability program we 7, 8, 9 to talk about it is a joint program by the mayor's office, by the planning department and the county transportation authority and the mta it has 3 components other mike is on if you feel comfortable. >> thank you very much. >> the very first component the line it is really rising the environmental impact report under the california environmental quality act a state level reform wheel not

spend too much time on that only to say it occurs at the state level in 2016 the second part is the transportation management that has nothing to do with has to do with the development of the features to make sure that people have options to traveling different ways in vehicles and asking people to travel by bike and walking and transit we really need to provide the infrastructure and to provide the transit and bike facilities by to provide them and fund them that's where the fee part of program i'll skip to that part of the presentation to give you the information i'll unite adam to talk about this. >> while adam was on his way up

changes that are not rventhd in the binder 0 so what you see on the screen may be different than your binders. >> thank you altered from the planning department your last portion of that was accommodating the new growth. >> making sure that people get around the city comfortably we're calling the transportation sustainability fee an expansion of the impact fee and i'm going to turn it over to corey the assistant zoning administrator and our planning code expert you'll talk about the specification of the fee and how to applies to small businesses as many of you may know there's a huge transportation need we're asking the development partners to help to fund that as the city

grows on the impacts of the transportation we're proposing to place the where had with a new transportation sustainability fee it capitalizes that to expand the market rate no change to the nonprofits this is an issue that came up in profess iterations we're building and standing the small business corey will talk about that generates $400 million in revenue in the next few years it goes go the system to help build the improvements more the trains to get around faster a portion goes to the regional partners and part to the building streets that are safe for pedestrians as well those are the proposed fee rates their based a nexus study

we're legally required to do and an economic feasibility study for the economic impacts across the r across the city to see the impact of the fee on the development and make sure that new investments are not costly to build another issue less jermaine for this body projects that have filed their applications in the pipeline we're suggesting they receive a certain amount of gathering if you're in the pipeline you'll get a discounted fee and that is part of the built in performance and maybe with a certain date so the records have to change that's a high-level of overview i'm going to turn it over to corey i'll walk you through the

exception how that effects small businesses. >> good evening, commissioners i'm corey the assistant zoning administrator i spend a lot of time with the impact fees one of my jobs right now to keep track of the current policy credits that we receive applications for for the 81 d f i'll go over first of all, the main changes that the t s f changes that will impact small businesses the first thing the second point we don't have a blanket small business exception but policy comments for small businesses but a moderny limit of 3 percent every year for the policy credits so the new ss f

eliminates that the small business exemption that applies it is a significant change for small businesses second big change is that we are collapsing our land use into much fewer categories for the impact fees because as many of you may know the t d i f was created in the 80s before the impact fees in the administrative code by mta this didn't move into the apply department until 2010, 2012 we're thank you for the opportunity to try to correct that to illustrate this on this slide on the left you'll see all the land use or technically they're called economic activity areas that we have to deal with today, there are quite a few on the right the 3 symbol categories we use in our other knocks and

using the t s f the residential and non-residential pdr the interesting thing about the list on the left except for pdr they fall under the residential that collapses the uses down but often means fewer instances in the future where a change of use will occur per this code as a trigger for the fee other issue that is relative to the change of use the existing t d i f if you want credit it is for the prior it had to be active within the years ever our application if you imagine there are a lot of places that make that for a while and that was off in situations people come

into for example, converting a pdr to a retail if not an active pdr actively occurring in that space in the last 5 years they don't get the credit they pay the whole rate that is consistent and proposed to being removed those are the 3 changes that impact small businesses the most i can go through the triggers and specific in that area as well. >> so again generally, the fee who applies to all non-residential the residential developments creating 21 or more dwelling units and large nonprofit private universities with the institutional master plans will be subject and there which is a charitable provision in the std f we're essentially

fact that away if the large nonprofit that universities who does it not apply to the restricted and middle-income housing as part of the explore housing if you're got 2012 permeation of the onsite units are affordable if you're building 81 percent of the units and their derestrictive that will be exempt from the knees inaccurate 20 or fewer their examine and less than 5 thousand square feet we'll get into the detail in a moment and again, the way we treat nonprofits will stay basically, the same explicit for the large nonprofit universities

so when did the if i and the triggers to trigger the fee any new construction greater than 8 hundred square feet that's the vast majority and similarly expansion or additions to building larger than 8 hundred square feet anytime under is a change of use and generally from the lowest to the highest pdr we'll take the highest rate so looking at the small business exemption to point out this is essentially the way it exists in the t d i f it politics all the time the pdr use it expands less than 5 thousand square feet will be exempt and 5 thousand is the key and non-residential that resonates within an existing space for example, retail use

for the pdr use it ultimately is 5 thousand square feet less than that is exempt and they don't apply to the retail so pdr to retail for example, starbuck's that would not be exempt so a few common development scenarios one is that kind of the change in tenant more than a change in use for example, if you have let's say you have a corner grocery store on valencia street to convert it to a toy store not a change of utilization because we were able to collapse those uses including the office and retail and medical and institutional you can go in and out of the changes and not a perfect impact fees so in this situation no fee applies no expansion and no change of use

so what if you want to capitalized to small business maybe you're adding into the building again as long as the ultimate result of the expansion the use and business will be less than 5 thousand square feet the fee will not apply i want to mention a little bit elder a change of the use from pdr to retail as long as it is less than 5 thousand square feet go into a former you know warehouse space in selma are you or a trendy coffee shop less than 5 thousand square feet not subject to the fee something important to point out excuse me. we are actually going to be image doing substitute to address the typo in the language

the draft it doesn't make that happen fully only an error and caught already and on our to do list to get it done so the language is correct again that didn't happen your crux a new building for a small business it will only not apply for a building less than 8 hundred square feet an example the pictures are proximity and for the substitute a fee if their large enough generally buildings more than 8 hundred square feet are subject to the impact fee this is common if you're leasing space in this situation generally mother applying to the business because when that building the building permit was approved and issued for the new constructionists they're

generally determined the collapsing of the uses so all the impact fees are paid through the permit with the actual construction of the building often the 81 ti work is later so it didn't flow to the business owner taken in by the developer when the permit is issued for the new construction and with that, i'm going to turn it over to adam to complete. >> yeah. that is basically the end of our presentation as you are aware mayor and supervisor wiener and supervisor breed introduced it on july 21st we did the introduction and will go woke backing no september and bring to 0 with that if you have

any questions, i'll be happy to answer them or answer any feedback you may have. >> commissioners, any questions. >> in you're on the formula retail does it include franchisees fachz. >> yes. that formula retail includes franchises any businesses that meet the criteria for the formula retail or the establishment they have otherwise they'll fall under that i should pout that is the way it is for the credits as well as long as we have fund available you can't receive it if if is a formula retail. >> commissioner tour-sarkissian. >> i have a question about the threshold of 5 thousand square feet what does it include

storage? a lot of those retail businesses included. >> generally for all the impact fees we use gross storage which is our kind of most expansive category for the floor area it generally include everything from the exterior and for storage if you have a back storage room for stock or stwra space or the part time space that is in the calculation of the 5 thousand square feet. >> so possibly it can involve a lot of retail businesses because a lot of them voluntary large storage area 5 thousand threshold can capture a lot of small businesses with the commercial space maybe half

1/3rd and the rest stores a lot of restaurants basement have i screwdriver that possibility. >> sure there will be some retail uses that are larger than 5 thousand square feet we don't very specific numbers on the proportion but the large portion of those uses are in the c district and the neighborhood corridor those tend to be you know just the ground floor and that is usually a maximum of 25 hundred square feet rather than large parcels that are definitely an opportunity for businesses to expand and go over 5 thousand square feet unto a higher number of formula retail that fall into that in the neighborhood commercial districts yeah. the same image the 5 thousand square feet threshold and the formula retail

component we're basically carrying that over exactly how in the counter policy of the small businesses that's the idea. >> commissioner dooley. >> can you go over the projects in the pipeline how those work in the 3 different categories i'm just asking about the project with the planning entitlements will not pay the existing t d i f but the residential projects quite large will not be paying any of the use; is that correct. >> hold on maybe i can find the slide here. >> so - essentially this is the

consideration for projects have received their entitlements e.r. submitted an application for the two departments the residential and non-residential the residential uses which you may be less concerned with if they have their entitlements from the planning department this fee whether not apply there maybe other fees in place like the aerial impact fees they'll pay those but an application into the department we're paroling proposing they'll pay 50 percent the fee rate for the residential use that's $3 sloping to $7 plus for the non-restricted residential uses the projects with entitlements again not pay

the new fee but if subject to the p d i f we're saying the same thing for the development applications into the planning department if they have an application in we're saying today, the rates that are there today hopefully that make sense. >> can you give me a quick comparison of difference between the two p d i f for in this. >> maybe if you could give us an example let's say i have a restaurant 4 thousand square feet and expanding to 8 thousand square feet so, now i've set the limit. >> right. >> is this a one time fee how do it effect me today and post this transition give us an order of magnitude. >> it would be - the mablt will

be the same so you'll be paying today and tomorrow with the scenario the rates vary as you can see the middle line on the power point. >> a non-residential. >> a non-residential the current those are collapsed i don't have the exact fee it is also 14 to $18 with a one time fee. >> okay. a one time fee on the total square footage or the credential. >> you have 4 thousand existing and 8 thousand you'll pay on the 4 thousand square feet. >> not over 5 thousand but on the increments. >> so i'll pay 4 thousand times 14 today, 4 thousand times 18 so the increment is 4 thousand

times 4 an infrastructure woments fee and yeah. yeah. >> okay got it. >> director. >> thank you for the - mr. president. >> i'm not sure which one will answer this one the triggers of the new construction over 8 thousand square feet i get the idea not the trigger for residential but with the example how to affect small businesses like if you take the proximate in hayes valley do a pop up of 8 hundred square feet with the t s it will apply i'm wondering this seems a little bit counter in active for the businesses might

be investing in the small business spaces to apply this you know probably our 5 hundred or 8 hundred square feet we move to encourage or perhaps an example we heard about property or we did some sdrrlg around city college to allow garages to be converted into retail will this trigger the t s f as well i want to make sure we're keeping in mind something that might be counterintuitive for the versus the retail space. >> is this triggered this isn't triggered by the signing of the lease but by a renovation any thank you. i asa sure the last

one first, the trigger technically is a building permit the impact fees are tied to the cremates. >> so if the building permit proposes the creation of or expansion or changes of use so where there's an non-remain or pdr any building permit that represents one of the applicable types of work. >> i have a retail space and sign a lease to be a retailer and need to do thank you uss is that going to trigger that. >> not a change of use. >> you can expand that it can be a dentist office and not to do a toy store not residential no change of use it will in the trigger it. >> it will trigger a building -

>> so. >> most businesses you're talking about are outside of the purview. >> you're talking about the small businesses in the temporary setting like the proxy. >> yeah. like the generated. >> the mission rode. >> wouldn't proxy pay a fee they'll host the retailers so, now this plot of land has been approved for retail i come and plop an 8 by 10 container a 20 by 18 container over the limits that will be kind of like leasing a space that is zoned for retail why would plopping that container on it change cause this to happy a. >> for the purposes of the container we're treating it not

as new construction like you're taking timber but fit out to meet the required codes for a structure that people occupy. >> wouldn't the landlord be involved. >> well, the property owner all the impact fees are technically the landowners responsibility and obviously a private agreement you know with those situations where is it contingent on the tenants but the property owners requirement 8 hundred square feet requirement is something that go look at it and studied a little bit with the impact fees with the planning code to deal with triggers we're conforming with that as to make it consistent with all the other impact fees to keep is triggered there maybe situations as small building of that size is over 8 hundred i

can't think of a good example that hapned yet it could happen definitely we could look at that more the way we came to look at that we're trying to conform this to those impact fees for consistency. >> i don't see that - that would be like saying hey, i'm a developer and want to build a retail building before that i'll bring in my tenants and not have the impact fees yet that's backwards i'm assuming you've taken care of onsite fees and not build the building to have the impact fees. >> it is tricky the proxy a space is different if you're

building a before you building with the commercial laid out but a space like proxy or mission rock it is meant to be flexible your rely on that business to come in and sort of say hey i want to take up that space and build a proxy container that's a small level of situations that applies to those are also small micro businesses adding in more fees what kind prohibit the economic developments something we may want to think about the business has to pay they're going - a restaurant is going into a pdr space; right? and so that situation would trigger a change of use the building owner doesn't pay that the lease he pace that there will be

sentiments based on the somewhere presented in the creative spaces which are designed to be temporary spaces those big lots are built out. >> the 43 fee is levied on the permit. >> the property owner is ultimately responsible for what is going on. >> is it issued to the tenant or the property owner oh. >> right again, the pdr retail conferees is less than 5 thousand total right now any conversion less than 5 thousand square feet under the policy credit program under the exemption we've proposed will not pay. >> we have a lot of that going on in the dog patch for the northern industrial center is roanoke county, virginia the entire ground floor foyer pdr and restaurants every one of those is excessive off 10

thousand square feet so it will see a building permit and a fee. >> there are increments but the fee is only if the space is working in they're not expanding more than that 5 thousand square feet. >> this is those small unique things with the kind of like the containers and the pop ups and the economic development how will we assess that for when we do the temporary pop ups for events. >> just to clarify in the case of proxy they were the intention to be temporary but we don't have a provision in the code it is a limited provision for construction trailers during construction and christmas tracy trees and lots things like that most of the things we have to

permit it and treat it as permitted the yard is different there are different things for mission bay for a temporary use which is what they're doing there we haven't seen it come up too much but the kind of pop uptrends with the smaller retail is happening more we don't have a lot of space typically a lot of left over freeway space to have the pop up containers it's not an issue yet. >> we have a lot of empty storefronts. >> it is important we're proposing to remove the 5 year you know active use provision because especially commissioner moran considering the recession i think this is around important

provision under the t s 19. >> i think we should pause for public comment i see someone in the audience thank you very much. we'll continue this conversation comments. >> i have a question i'm not sure it is good one thing to realize obviously when fees get button put on in an apartment building but on the building owner the fees have to be paid back through the rents. >> uh-huh. >> the tenant will pay it one way or another for example, oak street they tore the theater down and put up a part-time they pay high rents that effects the rents on the rest of the block so there's is on effect not only to the tenant that is there but effects everybody around and also as we have a housing shortage not a shortage but the

cost housing is going up this is another thing that effects. >> thank you. >> i guess the question is whether it causes the rent to go up. >> good evening jim lazarus chamber of commerce i'm pleased to hear we have a homicide on the change of use it can, scary on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis but they've compacted the categories over 3 categories but i think there are significant perhaps unintended consequences to rents as steve said the highest rents into a commercial area are the benchmark for the leases when a landlord tears down a building on pongz a r polk street and put in new retail with 6 or 10 units

the 10 unit don't pay the residential but the more than 5 thousand square feet of replaced retail pays the fee 10 thousand square feet of not even new it can be replacing 10 thousand square feet of existing retail spaces i understand was there ones before it goes up with an $80,000 fee for the 10 thousands of new replacement square footage that will get passed on to the first tenants of they're two thousand square feet units the total that was built was 10 thousand square feet of now retail the real question do you get credit for the retail that was there before this is demand based that's the impact of that small business or large business

on transit and transportation if there were 10 thousand square feet on sacramento and polk with a new building of 10 thousand square feet why are they paying a fee so i think there are still interesting questions that will impact small businesses on a neighborhood basis when you calculate rents. >> is comment there is actually a replacement use credits so if you there are 5 thousand square feet of retail space existing on the site you tear it down with 10 thousand square feet of rail you'll get credit. >> tim is that - >> okay i object to show you. >> was that will that address our issue jim. >> great neck. >> samantha i want to express a

southern in the sense of pdr in retail is as jim mentioned a few things like pdr the restaurants are over 5 thousand square feet had you include the back indians 5 thousand square feet with 18 thousand square feet $10,000 so a raunlt about go somewhere else to keep in mind small if might be only a few kind of concern areas but keep in mind. >> okay. thank you. >> any comment on that one so this is the case whether you have - ; is that correct we're all learning it here. >> there's a lot of threshold and triggers but that case that she described will trigger the fee and i think that is a question of we've proposed the 5

thousand square feet small business exemption same in the current t d i f that qualifies the business that's the quasi it is today so - >> i mean the fact is you've described as a fee associated with is it today but under the circumstances the fee is $4 per square feet more. >> especially it is less if you get credit for the pdr in this last few years a few scenarios you take a new project and rerun it under the code and tweak it with a various no matter the threshold you said but you know in that scenario if you have a large restaurants like that

you'll trigger it and get credit for whatever use your replacing now under the new code instead of paying for it. >> are you already done. >> commissioner and oh, is there any additional public comment before we precede we'll have more questions from the commissioners seeing none, public comment is closed commissioner yee-riley. >> yes, my question now the 5 thousand square feet is in place perhaps before you make all the proposals have you done this study to see how many the small businesses was 5 thousand square feet or more will be impacted. >> so again, this is a carrier over from the legislation it's a good question my question the 5 thousand was arbitrary.

>> i'm not sure about the origin of the 5 thousand square feet but moving forward that applies to the new and expanded businesses so it didn't you know existing just to be clear the existing businesses doesn't apply only on new businesses i don't have the number in terms of how many small businesses in the city are thousand. >> i know we have inquired with the association to see whether or not 5 thousand is the right number maybe 10 thousand would be a better number especially for restaurants. >> commissioner white. >> i didn't i think you answered my question so i want to - existing businesses that are over 5 thousand this does not apply. >> for existing businesses no. >> doesn't apply to any existing. >> my second question if you're

an existing business over 5 thousand square feet and there wanting to remodel that triggers that going back. >> not unless your expanding. >> it's not a change of use. >> not a change of use. >> all right. >> what if you expand to over 5 thousand. >> then the incremental. >> the amount of the expansion will pay. >> i have a question. >> yeah. >> about construction new construction so if you tear down the building with an existing retail space than the trigger is 5 thousand it if you're a retail space, however, if no retail space it is 8 hundred; right? square feet do you understand me. >> yeah. there is different threshold. >> if in fact, you didn't have

before the tear down any retail space you'll go with 8 hundred and right if you have a vacant lot like a parking lot. >> a residential building. >> and is you build a new building is with ground floor retail 5 thousand square feet that applies so it applies for all the residential and the retail if you have the same proposed development in 10 or 2 thousand square feet of empowering retail built interest before it applies to the residential but you'll get a credit for the prior use i don't go into that gooesdz but it gave us a replacement and that replacement is the scenario you demolish and replace. >> up to 5 thousand square

feet. >> no for example, you had a 10 thousand square feet building same as retail my comment usually a stand alone retail space we want to tear it down and build a new building you get credit the goal for the impact fees and really we're bound to charge for the incremental new impact being created that's why in that scenario allocate scenario you have an existing building with a 2 thousand square feet addition not charging you more only the extra impact with the expansion. >> thank you for clarifying. >> commissioner yee-riley. >> yes. since your including the residential development so it didn't increase in revenue can we go ahead and do it or put it on the ballot with 2/3rd's

vote. >> an ordinance that needs to be approved by the board of supervisors and signed by the mayor so it is not needing to be a valid issue. >> have we exhausted users. >> all right. i think we're done thank you that was very informative and mr. lazarus if he understand that correctly and is satisfied with that anyway i don't have any questions. >> this is agendized as around action item you can take action on it tonight or you could in terms of how the shape it is in and recommend not recommend you could recommend with if there's any sort of additional

considerations or list out the things you think with good encroachments over the thank you d i f it sounds like there is time for working with it any areas that you - i think it might be good to inform the sfmta the things that the commission may want to look at good to do that now and have it on an official records. >> the relative numbers are 8 hundred and 4 thousand and plus dollars. >> can we ask them to consider and look at the inclusionary of the 5 thousand to 10 thousand. >> we can ask them third degree anything we want and understanding that 5 thousand is a legacy number they didn't undertake a study to see if it is relevant to today is

environment i think it is perfectly within our purview to recommend on investigation of where that 5 thousand came from and whether or not it is relevant today and effecting small businesses it is equally relevant to kind of ask the question of 5 thousand square feet effect the initiative frrments frorments coming out today maybe not the trends but a precursor of things to come and finally ask the question what's the rational between little $4 i'll say $13.00 or a year on average is a small contribution to the overall need here in the city so good on everyone for trying to find pennies where they exist that is a small amount so we can

certainly make a motion anyone of you. >> i move to recommend for them to look at changing the 5 thousand to 10 thousand. >> and look at the 8 hundred square feet to see whether or not. >> a point of clarifies are we talking about the beginning what the 5 thousand square feet would be for retail versus storage as your motion to begin what 5 or 10 would be are we talking about gross or net. >> whatever the 5 is i'd like to have them look at 10. >> before. >> that's gross. >> before we go forward i'll suggest that 10 is no less than arbitrary than 10 we came up

with that i'll suggest maybe there be a little bit of research what is a rational number it's not clear where the rational was behind the number 5, 6 or telephone i don't how to determine that tonight but a good request to kind of thinks what the number is if there's a better number to - you can motion anything i want but 10 is as or 5 and what we really want to know what is the number that has the least impact on small businesses without getting in the way of accomplishment. >> i think we need to incorporate the come back of how much of the square footage is

usually versus back area or. >> net versus gross. >> yeah. that's kind of important as we piloted retail that has a huge basement for example, if that is factored in but the upstairs is quite small. >> yeah. that, however, i would if you were in the planning commission i would say well what happens if necessary get a permit and it is a bunch of storage and walk in there and see you took down the temporary wall and it is convert to small retail i want to comment less storage to storage and more to retail the ability to enforce that is something that would go to the consideration of the planning commission so again, we, move what we have we want you want to make sure that the

motion we make is one that he thought about here we're go trying to make a decision in 5 minutes to try to recommend some analysis rather than some specific numbers so perhaps the motion a consideration for active space versus non-active space something like that we should be mindful of the practice outlet so just putting it out there. >> i think and maybe good for the record for the commission to comment on sort of the change in direction that the sfmta and planning department are taking with the transition they're making some t d i f there are significant considerations they

gave them some good thought in the new policy such the you know the 5 thousand credit you're going to get if you expand an extra 2 thousand there has been thoughtful things it is going for the record since we have to provide a written comment it may not be the final comment to provide desecration to the department that is good and solid and other issues to came back before you. >> rights in the spirit of this collapsing of the number of different buckets to put things in we don't want to go opposite and say yeah. let's put paperwork around 24 semipartion this cleans it up.

>> so again you know i'm we're here to i've you can promote the interests of small businesses to the extent it makes sense for this small businesses in the city collectively so just thinking about whatever we might motion and the request we might make to each the departments. >> don't look to me for another motion. >> so i think we have at least one motion on the floor which is to request the department to go back and take a look at the 5 thousand and do on assessment about i think to do an assessment where the 5 thousand comes from and if there are considerations for the possibility of an increased

amount. >> yeah, so - well, the motion on table to increase from 5 thousand to 10 thousand if you want to withdraw that we can took at approach. >> we can ask them to look at the 5 thousand. >> okay. so look at. >> the rest of this i personally like the rest of this i've seen it in my work with construction and stuff it actually cleans it up and i think about some of the other small businesses were moved around town and getting hit with this fee under this program we wouldn't have gotten hit with the fee i'd like - like a cleaning up. >> like a container store or

costco it is like a storage is that storage or display and in fact, storage is part of the display it will get both a tricky situation you'll start having people play a cat and mouse game what is storage and retail likewise in a factory we like it to be one in the same people see that as part of the retail experience seeing the factory don't you guys come around and look at my factories (laughter) and the only thing that makes me nervious one the things if someone else comes and raises the rent it effects everyone in the neighborhood but like you said in there program if it is already paid and switching that

carries over. >> real quick there is sort of two points he do angle economic feasibility study one of the things the market is going to ask what the market is going to ask the cost of the developer is not drooiven what the rent is charging only the market value can bear is what their charging that is a separate economically separate from charging a fee. >> right. >> if the rents go up on a particular building the market value can bear it and has a ripple focus on the rest of the neighborhood. >> it effects the development i'm congressional going to put in 20 thousand of retail i'll not add the next 10 it will make that invisible for a developer i'll have to cram it down my next attended the market didn't allow so all the fees effect the

composition of the development itself so whether you can really command the rent whether it is commercial or residential to offset the fees that are charged and even though city likes to move ahead of that step. >> and is second part of the motion i think what was commissioner white recommend looking at the 8 hundred square feet issue with our pop ups and maybe have a discussion with our office of economic development. >> that's another situation we're trying to make that impact fee consistent with the other ones so typically 8 hundred square feet of new construction or addition is a trigger for other impact fees. >> that's the size of 3 horse drawn cartridges (laughter). >> that was mobile retail back

there there's a rational. >> and in all seriousness that is from the retail side then the commercial side if you're doing a large expansion. >> the average size. >> so perhaps i mean, i think it would be good to have a conversation i think the margins of who that might effect are small by significant. >> okay sure. >> adding to the motion a consideration of the 8 hundred square feet and whether this is somethings that could or should be modified. >> i like that. >> okay great. >> so bryan if you have tracked that motion into some concise wording you're the man of the hour. >> i'll give it a try commissioner yee-riley made a motion to have the department do

a assessment on the rational for number of for the square footage how they drive that number and consideration for increasing the square footage a and b recommending the department discuss the 8 hundred secret in regards to pop much as the with oewd and possible modification of the square footage. >> yep. you got it. >> and then is there any sort of additional third sort of force for the other component of the legislation? no >> not unless anything else. >> second. >> i second. >> i can do a consecutive roll call. >> commissioner adams. >> commissioner dooley commissioner president dwight commissioner ortiz-cartagena is absent commissioner yee-riley

commissioner tour-sarkissian. >> commissioner yee-riley. >> thank you for your patience and thanks for the public commenters for coming out. >> don't forget your tumble drive adam. >> item 5 is discussion and possible action on the project plans. >> adams did you get our u s b arrest cool thank you very much. >> thank you so supervisors tonight in your binder is the registration form boonlz our feedback of what you have in the binder starts out with an instruction to the applicant what's raider in the application

it does give a little bit of the information about the registry and the eligibility requirements that is outlined in the legislation registration process a business may fill out an application we'll forward to the mayor and board of supervisors unless the application is not complete then to the mayor and the board of supervisors then to determine whether they want to nominate that business to come before you or the mayor or the board of supervisors to nominate the business we contact the business they fill out the application and it comes before you a $50 application fee not refundable in section one the name of the business, the founding date, the name of the business owner or

the ownership and the mailing address if the applicants is someone around the business or the business owner then the name the applicant in terms of for the communication is needed in terms of the application then we have the business registration number and the secretary states the corporation number asking for that and for them to check if they're a nonprofits or e station and to write in the date that the business was founded headquarters or founding date headquartered date in case a business didn't start in san francisco but relocated here and asking for previous locations for what it would be the original location if it is a business that might have multiple locations we're

tracking the historical - the history of the original location i want to oil the ignite section 3 the narrator the business will be writing the narrative to demonstrate to the commission what about you know it is to be - what about them makes them a legacy business in addition to name and business description and define the character of the business and note any change or notification of the business and the date and reason for the modifications some businesses may have slight changes it is up to you to determine if it is enough not the same business or modified i don't know how many scenarios that might be but give a thirty year history if the

headquartered date including the ownership history, any business disruption that requires it to be close for more than two years and i put in a decided classroom some businesses in japantown that are over thirty years old but had to be close for more than two years because of the japanese increment. >> because of the earthquake. >> yes. maybe circumstances that i can add tearthquake. >> nationality disaster. >> right i don't want those people to think those businesses are xutd excluded because they're closed for more than two years and maintaining the fiscal features including the business

goods and services and tied to historical cultural or social what is the business or nonprofit contribution to the city's history and identity in the community, describe how the business represents part of the city or neighborhood shared economic social path, economic social path past, present, and future what makes the business community serving those are the things referenced in the legislation and the description of the patrons and the beneficiaries a description of the business fiscal location if the fiscal building within the business in which the business is located and maintained features inside perhaps out and to what stent the use within the property and you know do

they obituary it or not that is just interesting demographic information for us to have and would the community be diminished if the businesses were sold, relocated or shut down those are questions to put forward if you think there are any you know. >> this is very good. >> that may be considered and then in addition for businesses with multiple locations that provide you know the listing the multiple locations and their history and then also to include any you know supplemental documents legal documents business refrigerator and photographs documenting the history

memorabilia and newspaper clipping any audio or visual things like that they could include in their application to help you know supplement their narrative story i forgot to note that for section 3 i think i put this in here should be more than 6 pages in terms of the narrative. >> so i think i read there this it looks me comprehensive you've asked the right questions if other questions need to be asked we might decide maybe there is something we've not been asking we want to know but encourage companies that who i think some of them are a slam dunk not having to go through you know a big ordeal to prepare this

application it depends on the legacy business wants from by putting in this proclamation do they want the recognition or looking for financial benefit from the city of the things that are going to be available so as it stands today it looks comprehensive enough to go to market. >> yep. >> i want to mayor, i mentioned section 4 is just to make sure that businesses are aware we do need to make sure their current on their tax and understand those documents be part of the public record to make sure we dot all the i's and cross the t's that's our understanding. >> i think the application is user friendly. >> it is very good.

>> will this be online. >> it will be online eventually but as soon as we have it officially i know there are some businesses that are interested in starting this process now. >> can we make it a pdf. >> we definitely can. >> one that you can fill out as a pdf. >> we'll work on that so the narrative portion will - yeah. >> that's fine. >> this is an excellent i have a question the last sentence the photographed images without compensation (inaudible) is that - >> it would be things like a photo credibility's it is for any reason as part of our program we want to use a particular photograph to highlight a legacy business and

we can, do. >> we should be able to do that. >> if the giants apply they'll have to hold back on all their players (laughter). >> all right. any other commissioner comments. >> okay. so any public comment open up for public comment seeing none, public comment is closed do we have any action. >> i would make a motion to approve that and want to give kudos to regina and her office that is excellence well-thought-of and i'm kind of involved that this in another level you got all the bases covered. >> i want to acknowledge sf heritage and partners. >> it's very thorough and short and sweet and easy so i will

motion to approve this. >> second. >> second. >> i'm sorry who seconded it. >> commissioner yee-riley. >> commissioner adams commissioner dooley commissioner president dwight commissioner ortiz-cartagena is absent commissioner yee-riley commissioner tour-sarkissian and commissioner white. >> all right. knocking them down. >> and item number 6 is director's report. >> commissioners wanted to provide a quick update that i think other one of the most last meetings i may have mentioned about the start up in the day initiative with the white house to is one of the first city's to sign on in supports and pledge and that is an initiative by the

obama administration to start encouraging the city to do more online making it easier for businesses to get started i think the business protocol was one of the initiatives but they did have a prize they sent out with prices for small grants and large grants to do projects so we submitted a project with to the small business administration on a $50,000 project we want to see with the business portal to enhance the online application we were awarded that price. >> wow. >> happy about that so congratulations to jane once again and then quick update about paid sick leave because of my absent

donna the director and i are trying to connect to get her questions of her tennis what we're trying to go for hopefully by the next commission meeting we'll have information i'll send you an e-mail to let you know there are seiu is cleared for collecting snitches for the ballots for there to propose increasing the minimum wage up to $15 an hour for california by 2021 so call roll california minimum wage is $9 $10 next year and up from there and senator leno has his legislation out there

to increase the minimum wage as of $11 to 2016 and up in 2017 but san francisco is a reminder i don't need to remind you we'll be reaching $15 by 2018 so you might want to be aware and in your binder we have a list of legislation recently introduced that will we're working to get scheduled recess is many of the board of supervisors offices are closed right now we don't have some of them set but working to get them scheduled and, of course, a list of the legislation that has been heard by you can what past land use you know what pass through committees and signed by the

mayor and, of course, the service station retro to be conditioned so we're staying in touch with supervisor kim's office. >> okay. >> so that's it for today. >> fantastic fantastic. >> item 7 president's report. >> i have only one i attended the biological meeting we have the continuation at the chamber of commerce last tuesday the focus was primarily on consumer impacting consumer behavior and is timely discussion of needed to be but sf connect we're trying to keep sf connect and for the behavior as opposed to other biological campaigns whether the sf loma campaign efforts to corral that and have

consistent mercy housing to encourage consumers that was primarily the discussion that's all i've got and item 8 vice president report. >> nothing to report. >> item 9 commissioners report. >> just want to report that i visited the navigation center. >> how could i forgot and it was on mission street two by these we toured the whole area so it was pretty nice facility. >> yep. >> item 10 new business. >> i wanted to follow up on i know we had someone come in from the superbowl you know that spoke. >> oh, yeah. >> do we know how it is going

working with the small businesses around the city interested to know if they've been partnering. >> what you hear is what you get not that i'm aware of of manipulative activity frankly. >> i will contact jason and ask him to come in ash p that will be good. >> yeah. we should hear what they're doing and the plans. >> it is almost in the football season. >> 26 weeks ago away. >> yeah. >> anything else any other new business. >> do we have a motion for adjournment. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> everyone opposed (laughter) seeing none, wait (gave

issue. >> homeless in san francisco is a challenging issue that effects owner in the city in many different was as of the 2014 homeless census over 64 homeless in individual in the city to try to address the issue we've got a program for chronic homeless welcome to the navigation center. >> this pilot project is for people living on the street what makes it different the navigation center is able to accommodate homeless encampments lowell u allowing people to keep

their pets and bring their personal bloonlz. >> the full realization that people don't want to be homeless not refuse services but from the services don't meet them and not relevant they're not going to be successful if you look at the budget losses we've got a community sacrifice important people to get food and laundry we're standing next to the bathrooms it is designed to be a dynamic and brief residential experience where right of on this site city staff to connect you to homeless places to return to family dine is up for medi-cal and all those things that are complicated for people. >> the other exciting thing city agencies come on site and provided the services for folks this is existed to see when the

goal of streamlining a a whole processes of getting people on go gentle assistance into housing as much as possible. >> way totally different you can come and agree as please and get laundry services and showers any time of the day and night it's twenty-four hours a day whatever and twhefr it's not like any other she recalls. >> they come and help people for what it is they're required the issues they need and reach out and do what we can to say okay how can we accommodate you to get you set up and straight never in my mind imagined a program like this this place it different and a a lot a lot that better it works. >> the navigation is center is

a collaboration of partnerships too city departments one is the homeless outreach team managed by the san francisco distributing i look forward to the navigation center we'll have our agents go out and help and say don't go anymore over and over send our dayshift out they've meet the population and hang out and hang in the encampment and transport people and be with them and make immediate impacts with me and my staff. >> bringing our wloongz whatever you go presents a problem this place their help with the storage i don't have to worry about it staying here you know you're getting things done they need to get things down done to get off the street

avenue of the hope alsoness is gone. >> they help you if you're hungry go eat if e you need to go places go. >> they're 4th district it awe auto. >> it was funded through a unanimous donation and of may 2015 an additional $3 million to help to continue the program beyond 18 months. >> you see people coming out they're ready to being so the future homes you know how variable the navigation center is my message for the constituents yes something can be done do break chronic homelessness it is being done. >> this is a community that sets an example but i how to pick an area that was funky

they've seen we're trying to do is help their neighbors they've seen getting sicker and more frail and broken down on the streets and welcomed us that's a powerful statement people are exist and president in they're becoming to see the movement for folks and people on the streets are only survival modes where is there next meal and their itch more carefree. >> the staff here is interpretation the first day i have a appointment and everything was made all you do is go through them this makes a huge difference. >> to get settled in a helping hand, to get on my feet, take

care of the issues i have and get out of bed and help. >> even though the navigation center has been up in march 2014 the program is creating successful outreach for it's clients. >> a month ago they came to me and asked me to go into a new program i moved into here and now 3 months later i have my own place it is mine i lock my door don't worry about my stuff it feels human again commissioner

review of past events of the planning commission staff report and announcements >> again departments that. i have no report for you at this hearing could >> that places under commissioner matus. item 3 presidents report and announcements >> i've no reported >> item 4, consideration of adoption for the store preservation commission interview committee meeting of july 15, 2015.

>> any comments or considerations? does any member of the couple public wish to comment on the draft meeting minutes of july 15? seeing none, we will close public comment. another motion to approve? >> i moved to approve the minutes >> second >> thank you commissioners on a motion to adopt the minutes for july 15, commissioner hasz metadata, pearlman, ionin, and commissioner pres. wolfram >> yes >> that motion passes unanimously 7-0 and places us on item 5. commission comments and questions. >> any disclosures? commissioner johnson >> i have a question about the place making newsletter. that's an interesting we got an e-mail about it. i was curious, for instance, ivan interesting

speech on getting to a conference in savanna georgia in october, which is a concept i'm developing, linkage between maritime archaeology in terrestrial historic preservation in other words together. is that the kind of thing? is that considered a news item or you want to just keep it-activities of the commissioners? >> show. we would welcome any information you have on the presentation and i'll forward it to our communications manager, who will follow-up with you >> right >> commissioner pearlman >> i just want to say i time to read the significant amount of it the newsletter, and it's very well done and it's a very impressive newsletter. so thank you to the department. >> great. seeing no other comments will move on. >> commissioners, that will place us under you were continuous calendar, item 6 case number 2014.1386. the civic center cultural landscape inventory is proposed for

continuance to september 16. 2015 i've no speaker cards >> so, this item mr. fry >> commissioners, i want to give you a quick update on our most recent continuance of this item. i am happy to report we received the final draft of the cultural netscape survey. with all of the commissioners comments and mr. hasz comments address and were currently reviewing again we think it's good to go. in addition to that we found there was a, the necessity to include a little information about the social

and cultural heritage of the civic center plaza. most importantly, its recent history. so, we just recently entered a contract with arg to provide additional research during that her back of significance. so, it's really from the 1960s to about the late 1980s, early 1990s. with that, we hope will be finished in a relatively short period of time. but, we are prepared to bring the cultural netscape survey complete, as you most recently reviewed it to the september 16 hearing if you wish to review it at that time. if you would like to wait for the additional research for civic center plaza, we could always bring most items to you together at a future hearing. but i want to let you know at least the first component is complete. >> questions? does any member of the public wish to speak on the matter of the continuance of this item? seeing none, will bring it back to the commission. do i have a motion

to continue? >> almost into continue to september 16 this item. >> second >> thank you commissioners on a motion to continue item 6 to september 16, 2015 commissioner hasz johnck johns masuda pearlman hibblen and commissioner pres. wolfram that motion passes unanimously, 7-0 voices you under regular calendar. per item 7, case number 2015-0041 case number 2015-004168. des at 350 university st. this is a landmark designation. >> good afternoon, commissioned my name is shannon ferguson planning department staff gave him here to present the dependence recommendation regarding landmark designation of the university mold old ladies home located at 350

regarding landmark designation of the university mold old ladies home located at 350 university st. the building was added to the landmark designation program on october 8, 2014. landmark designation was initiated on may 20, 2015. the current building that you see here is constructed in 1931, 32 and colonial revival style. replace in brazil building constructed in 1875. the home was originally called the old ladies home. named after james lick left $100,000 and is filled to start a retirement home for elderly women of modest means. it was in business at this current location for 130 years and in 2014 was purchased by genesis and they continue to operate a convalescent nursing home in the building today. the home is architecturally significant as embodiment of the characteristics of the colonial revival style and represents the work of master architect

martin j risk and offered i copied. the. of significance was 1931-2014 representing the construction date of the current building to the time period it was owned by the university-it's been suggested that period of significantly change from 1931, two 1980. so that incompatible alterations are not captured in that significant state. the building does retain a high degree of integrity. it's undergone very few alterations during that time period. there's character defining features on page 24 of the landmark designation report. character defining features such as the living room dining room, and located areas historically publicly accessible. staff has updated the designation report to include an appendix with a

brief history of retirement and evolution in the architectural design of retirement homes. also of note, department staff and commissioners from island wicks and johnck met with them at the site and were given a tour of the property. given the residence or support the designation and supervisor campos has also expressed support. the department believes the building meets the established eligibility requirements and landmark status is wanted. the diamond recommends designation to the board of supervisors. thank you. >> any questions? >> questions? seeing no questions, when we take public comment on this item. any member of the public wish to comment on the designation of the university mound old ladies on? seeing none, will" and bring it back to the commissioners. i would like to report about our visit today. as ms. ferguson said,

commissioners johns myself this right in this ferguson all visited the site. we met with madeira-founder of a song with the executive director i think of the particular site, that particular building. as well as david ross from-who is their architect for some proposed rehabilitation. they stress some concern about the flexibility of them to make changes in the future to accommodate accessibility issues were coding issues. we walked them through the designation reports. they seem to be amenable to designation. they did not express, i guess, i would say they're fairly neutral. i drove the other commissioners had a sense of- >> i think there were more

comfortable >> they were comfortable. we also met talk to a few of the residence there as well and a tour of the facility which ms. ms. ferguson said has great integrity. they are planning to make some changes to improve accessibility at certain locations. we also discussed the potential of changing the front landscaped terrace so that was more accessible. i know there's a set of steps from the building to the driveway. they said they were exploring different ways to that of larger outdoor patio for residents that might change the landscaping in the front setting. then, the potential batting elevators in the reader, changes they were also-i was a the one area that they were discussed the most were the ceilings, the painted

stenciled ceilings and whether those could be readily retrofitted to include sprinklers and lighting and other features and whether they might consider putting a drop ceiling instead. that was one area that was discussed. then, we finally discussed the role of the farc. should this designation be approved. they would have the resources of va rc to come forward to discuss the potential design changes. does that actually are flat- >> as far as i'm concerned. except there was one thing that. there was initially, i thought, some ambivalence on their part and some real questioning, but would we be able to operate this home if it's a landmark? what would this really do? how flexible are you? it seemed to me that was a pretty insightful as to

what goes on in the minds of well-meaning people who have never encountered a stork preservation commission before come and probably hurt too many stories about the hbc destroying every ounce of economic value and other peoples property. as we talked, they seem to warm to the idea and they are really interested in exploring with us what could be done to preserve the parts of the building that are really worth preserving, but would allow the building to operate in the way that it could be economically sustainable. so, i think that what i got the feeling that they really want to work with us and it might -there could be some real benefits to having them on board with this landmark.

>> i wonder ms. ferguson as he could walk us through. there was some changes that need to be made based on what we saw today and also mentioned the corrections that i talk to you about earlier. >> based on our site visit today, there have been some features that have been removed already that were called out in the character planning features in the reports. those include some light fixtures in the living room. i believe the dining room and in the chapel that have already been removed and replaced with contemporary light fixtures. we do believe those-they were original fixtures that been removed. so, that would need to be room changed and the character defining features. >> was there any indication the ones that were taken away still exist? >> undergone?

>> unfortunately, they are gone. the ones in the chapel may still be around and could potentially be rewired and reinstalled if they are still available. >> commissioner johns >> i was curious with the concerns of the owner and maybe ask you if you foresee any particular difficulty. in my expense this is been on the commission, we have been flexible according to the purpose of the facility allows for changes to support the facility and its functions. so i wouldn't necessarily be worried about that. however, if the owner, i guess, were to be prudent to us watch the owner if there are some plans, or

ideas that they have for changes, would be prudent to have a meeting with them to further bring them on board. would that be wise? that would be my question. which would mean maybe a continuance, if there was support for that idea. or, if we do prove if we do approve it now i think would be prudent to meet with them if they have some changes they want to make it or maybe they don't have a plan out? >> i don't think it really drawn out yet. the planning department,-when was this originally provided to the owner? this is been in their hands for a lot while? >> yes. bulimic designation was provided to them well before the initiation hearing on may 20 >> so, the planning department has done quite a bit about reach and i think today perhaps was the first meeting were we had all the parties involved. so, we've if we were to

continue the item, i'm not sure what, whether there would be a real benefit or not. i don't know. gemini thoughts about that? >> commissioners, jim frey department staff. my thoughts earlier after discussing some of these conceptual plans with property owners, that they could really benefit from some design advice from architectural review committee no landmark designation i think would go a long way in facilitating that. so, by the time they come to us with a permit or project or requested we can bring them directly to your design committee to give them the type of feedback. and guidance that i think they could benefit from. >> i have no-i'm ready to move >> commissioner hyland looks >> i don't think we need to continue this. i was impressed with a cared about the building as well as the function in the building. it was under threat

about a year ago and this age song brought in some investors to purchase the building and to keep it in its current use and they even said, at one point, all the character defining features that we were explaining to them that were important, they also felt were important and intuitively would pay attention to those things. that being said, i think we do have some challenges, and so would be definitely beneficial for them to bring not only before the a rc, potentially have a preservation consultant work with them on some alternatives to the strict building codes. >> great. >> yes, i'm ready to move the designation. >> that motion after motion? >> that the motion. i'm ready. i move.

>> okay. >> second >> commissioners move the motion to adopt the recommendation for approval on a motion commissioner hasz, johnck johns matsuda, pearlman hyland looks, wolfram-yes that motion passes unanimously 7-0. >> can i go back to number six or something about the calendar? >> number five we can reopen commission matters >> i just wanted to look at august 19 and there's one item in that september 2 there's nowhere comes. i'm wondering from the staff at things coming up? we talked about having these 20 min. meetings that if we could combine some items to other mediums, that would be quite helpful. >> commissioners, there are number of items especially informational presentations on

your august 19 calendar. but i don't know any advanced calendar. to my knowledge, it might be an opportunity to cancel the first hearing in september. i think sec. ionin was discussing discussing that with commissioner wolfram >> when we wait till august 19. thank you, then. hearing adjourned. >>[gavel]

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