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cost and doing a cost benefit analysis you have the reports i think the detailed report part of the packet with the detailed analysis the calculations are transparency and we vetted the numbers and the model about the sfmta and the sf ct a with their transportation model and show the calculations we should a high and low rage for the estimates we provide i think the general kind of big picture assumptions this is why we're considering it we have to make a hypothetical assumption in some of the calculations what happens if muni didn't exist for parking demand and what happened to a whole host of things we had to do that in reality a content
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framework so it is a convert we made a hypothetical assumption you'll be able to continue to do things it will only be harder calculations as a result you know exclude a number of things value of foregone trips for example, if muni was there people would have to travel less there's a value we're not calculateing they include things for circling for parking and the costs they actually exclude the population employment growth this is a model based on the current circumstances now how much worse but the impacts will grow request population employment so we're going to look at as it is today
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preliminary skaegz we we looked at travel time savings phone call for muni drivers but automobile drivers they save times because muni reduces congestion and looked at the improved safety and the air quality issues and safety ones we didn't anyomonetize this services with the accessibility issues we didn't look at the last one i want to
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mention worker productivity next slide, please. >> obviously muni improves job assess and commute times it is for productivity the one we quantified the travel time how long it takes to get to work or commute, in fact, we looked that with the sfmta model and assumed a world in which muni was not there how much congestion and you put an seismic value on the cost of time and accompany with an economic estimate that is what that basis it go to the next slide we didn't monetize the productivity benefit from muni that essentially derives
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what you're able to get in different and people working next to each muni allows the urban formula that is really hard to game-changer we looked it but as a comparison type of analysis if you replaced - if you had to add more parking because muni didn't exist you'll have to replace 11 percent of the housing units and all the additional cars to be in the city car ownerships will go way up next slide, please. >> muni reduces travel costs has that's a straight up calculation and this is a pretty straightforward calculation a car obviously costs money to not only purpose but to maintain and operate muni costs money as well
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but on a per trip and per mile basis a set of facts for an automobile which you look at the costs biggest one is at our designation and look at that on a per mile basis that is significantly costs savings we committed that if the cost savings analysis okay muni reduces the needs to owner a car cars cost money we didn't through to be conservative not only to park at the designation but having a parish in our house car ownership in san francisco is less than 70 percent compared to 90 percent in the bay area
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this is largely for the transportation in muni the calculation we did as detailed basically. i'm sorry. >> that the car ownership rate will video to go up to san francisco the way we calculate up to percent and the calculations how many new parking spaces so have in other words, to do that and the cost of a parking space this is an illustration of interest because it shows you how space indoes he have for a overlay of candle stick park and if you think about the value the economic value combetsdz in the san francisco you get an idea of
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a space and other things related to car >> muni improves the environment this is obviously pretty intuitive basically the emissions per trip or per million people that use mini is less emissions we calculated that think a protocol on the cost of air reductions between the two modes and the volumes in this case and you come up with an economic estimate with that. >> safety is another one thing again on a per trip or per mile basis it is safer to travel from muffin travel relative to audit travel the analysis for all the muni travel what's the economic cost of the collision and again
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some standard methodology that put a price tag here's some of the findings that are pretty small we look at the annual impact and the fire chief earners back. >> no. it is easier in terms of of so obviously the amount of benefits far exceed the costs by depending on the high low on an annual $630 million to 1.5 billions of which is one thousand per residents and between 350 and $7 per trip when you look at in it in presents value that is the annual number and bringing it to a constant today's value the numbers are much more impressive on a per trip basis this is an overall cost benefit
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arbitrary this is technical between 2 and 3 which means for every dollar you invest our benefit is doibld to 3 times so overall muni is a strong investment relative to others investments out there in terms of next steps this is really more of kind of a you know feel good type of study (laughter) we do hope it improves the benefits of travel and understanding some of the discussion fitting for the day is about that there is a lot of decisions about cars versus transit and understanding the trade offs hopefully, will provide context we have a method
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dissolution for calculating a variety of metrics we can use going forward to update and understand the investments of - to potentially incorporate those metrics into the future budgeting decided and finally a lot of things we didn't look at bicycling and others services that sfmta provides and streetscape improvements complete streetscape sf was not evaluate there were other medics beyond the scope of this study we made this study directly to lead to with that, i'm available to answer any questions you may have. >> i have a question. >> questioned. >> can you apply it to methodology to others relationships actually, it is in someways to
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political to an individual i'm not sure if you're familiar with the federal level those are san francisco received money through that if i understand in motorbike they required a analysis and they select those projects bans which one has the history cost benefit and it is easy because you have more concrete information about the travel patterns and the streetscape about what is happening in some ways easy to do it at the local level this is challenging to try to go macro. >> did we plan to try to use this just because every time we have a lot of projects coming before us on a project based level this is even more
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relevance this is not the issue but on a project related basis this kind of stuff makes a difference. >> director that's the goal to be having a cost benefits analysis the system this is a starting point and hope to get more and more reif i understand but terrific to quantify for the public what the benefit cost of the individual projects so the first of a journey and hopefully, we're interested in making this a model of how we look at the world. >> i'd be rim if i didn't thank jason who is sitting in the audience thank you, jason. >> director borden brought up what i want to bring up this is a fantastic tool not only on a macro but a micro project by
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project i've not seen this come out of another traffic agency this is fantastic we're on the for the most part of calculate our benefits like director borden said we can point it to it this sort of an unusual thing. an agency >> i actually got the idea seeing that bart did it. >> seattle has done. >> bart's did to study to demonstrate bart to the region we were calculating how much we costs san franciscans when we have details so a small subtract from a unknown positive benefit that is why it is important to do this. >> i mean, i'm glad to see the awareness of the policymakers some of the information will be perfect to accepts to the
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assembly mentioning members that are working on the transportation funding infrastructure i think this is could possible help them with the laundering and framework to address that i'm looking forward to seeing how we're going to use that and expand it what benefit does that and what benefit if the pedestrian safety and bring this before the voters. >> thank you just quickly i really appreciate this is exciting i can't wait to do so the one on better management parking this is a premise ii think we all need more information available a few things i'd like to dig more deeply into the things you've listed as not being
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montana tied but the public health it is increasing more and more of a something we can address by way of our environment there is movement in the field of public health that is coming to light with the overall costs we live a more transportation lifestyle this is things for actively transportation i will encourage us to dig harder and figure out if it is not anyone tied maymon talk about it seems to me transit invaluable to people of
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lower-income and i know there is a tremendous cost savings that we allow people when they don't have to own a car and finding a way to be able to help put that into sound bite or a bullet point we can get out there will, tremendously helpful when we make the case for expanding the subway or putting in a light rail those are things that are associated with direct displacement or indirect displacement and pep people to understand how to get engaged in a project early enough enough but the long term benefits of some projects will be in terms of maintaining equity get to the real investment it is a wonderful thing i appreciate it. >> those points are right on we've seen what is happening for
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example, measuring the impacts the transportation system a lot of people working on quantifying that but the next iterations we'll quantify those i'm very optimistic we'll get there. >> thank you very much. >> well, thank you very much that's an excellent report any members of the public. >> herbert wiener now that we're alone. >> i support public transportation i came to this meeting on public transportation and leave the communities on public transportation i think this is necessary in light of the gridlock i couldn't agree more but observations i have you talk about travel time i ride the one california bus regularly there is a point of
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interest with the busses sometimes two to three buses that fellow each other and sometimes, we have to wait a long time for business and i always say when is the next bus going to come after we have weapons of mass destruction we talk about social equity you how about search and seizure and disabled having to walk to the bus and paratransit not a solution you have to reserve a day in advance and go four blocks on a paratransit vehicle is not okay when the muni forward is creating this inequity what i want to stress this is very important some people can't say not only drive in their 80s or 90s they create
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a danger to themselves and others i'll probably fall both that i'm 76 years of age but you'll have to give up my car sometime this is an important function that muni has your protecting the public and protecting individuals against potential injuries and accidents because of that you have to insure accessibility i wish this report would cover that those are my observations thank you. >> board members thank you, mr. moody fine report we have a quorum oh. >> mr. chairman item 13 is a vote for collection you have a member of the public. >> mr. pill pal is no longer here so. >> is there a motion? >> motion. >> second.
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>> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> how about a little break before we do the >> item 14 the mta met in clegs to talk about the local 25 a that matter that the case with the city attorney with the directors decided to close both and conducted the policy but the disclose or not disclose the information. >> not demolish. >> >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> we're adjourned thank you very much, everybody
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>> i have 2 job titles. i'm manager of the tour program as well as i am the historyian of city hall. this building is multifaceted to say the very least it's a municipal building that operates the city and county of san francisco. this building was a dream that became a reality of a man by the
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name of james junior elected mayor of san francisco in 1912. he didn't have a city hall because it was destroyed in the earth wake of 1906. construction began in april of 1913. in december 1915, the building was complete. it opened it's doors in january 1916. >> it's a wonderful experience to come to a building built like this. the building is built as a palace. not for a king or queen. it's built for all people. this building is beautiful art. those are architecture at the time when city hall was built, san francisco had an enormous
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french population. therefore building a palace in the art tradition is not unusual. >> jimmie was an incredible individual he knew that san francisco had to regain it's place in the world. he decided to have the tallest dome built in the united states. it's now stands 307 feet 6 inches from the ground 40 feet taller than the united states capital. >> you could spend days going around the building and finding something new. the embellishment, the carvings, it represents commerce, navigation, all of the things that san francisco is famous
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for. >> the wood you see in the board of supervisor's chambers is oak and all hand carved on site. interesting thing about the oak is there isn't anymore in the entire world. the floors in china was cleard and never replanted. if you look up at the seceiling you would believe that's hand kof carved out of wood and it is a cast plaster sealing and the only spanish design in an arts building. there are no records about how many people worked on this building. the workman who worked on this
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building did not all speak the same language. and what happened was the person working next to the other person respected a skill a skill that was so wonderful that we have this masterpiece to show the world today.adjourned. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hello and welcome to this presentation. i'm san francisco purrs since that time we've helped people clean up their criminal records. we created this to help you understand how this worked. we'll plan or explain all the
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to get started. let's hear some common questions. keep in mind those are general questions you'll you may be seated with an attorney who be provide more information based on our circumstances >> just to be clear i don't have to tell my employers will my ejections. >> yes. as well as convictions that have been dismissed. if someone runs a criminal background they'll see the charges but it's dismissed. you will be able to legally tell your employers person never convicted >> i don't to tell anyone is there a way to rears them. >> there's some cases you can.
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maybe you're arrested because police thought you were someone else. wound our arrest record is sealed you can say you were never >> if i wanted to clear my record if i was convicted of a felon. >> it is also known as a one letter officer the clean stating hit. >> may be able to get it raersz but if i went to prisoner you may quality for a correspondent certified document saying you're a lay abating citizen are. you had should be aware for some state jobs state agencies are
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submittal doesn't rove a sex ejection. if you're required to register as a sex offender that process will continue even if your record has been cleared, however, other forms of royalties maybe eligible. we look forward to helping you move forward with your life ♪ ♪ so, now you know a little bit more about the program we encourage you to apply go the sf purifyi purifying.org or stop by any place for our clean slate program. our team looks forward to
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serving . >> good morning, everyone yeah. today, i'm very proud to you know have this meeting because we are very luke in our you know city history we have the best leader you know leading us you know we've even though i feel everybody agree with me our mayor is the best you know working and dictated that's why we learn from him the department of building inspection our mission so to protect life and property for the public that's why today, we are proudly to have our honorable mayor,
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mayor ed lee to come over to you know make that announcement please welcome mayor ed lee (clapping.) >> director i'd like to give a quick interpretation. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> (clapping.) >> . >> (speaking foreign language.) (laughter). >> i just want to say thank you
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to the young people here to the family people here and not so young folks that are here to come together to receive this very good news of our city's willingness to support grants that are aimed another residents, small business owners are property owners as well and visitors get educated about the very strong possibility of the next big earthquake i wanted to first of all, say thank you to tom when i was a young attorney many, many years ago my for at a in chinatown was to do hours i want to venture have an active department of buildin
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inspection speeding i also wanted to make sure i always had is strongest district supervisor as we have in julie christensen. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and i do have now as the mayor very strong representatives of very important departments like our fire chief our department of the emergency services and our police department and whitens our rec and park department that are all here together to join not only in this announcement but in the various roles they'll
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play in preparing people so for the expected earthquake in the next 25 years. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> most importantly is you who are the residents, people that work in chinatown, people that live here and the people you invite and also the invaluable services leaders like sarah or other youth person speeding i
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know that many of you in in this room in english or chinese saw the san andreas movie that is i'm not sure i cannot but we have 3 serious facility lines that come into the city and county of san francisco. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> supervisor christensen and i have had many discussions
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about making sure that our communities all over the city but particularly those that maybe immigrant and low income communities like chinatown and mission and other areas of the city get attention when it comes to education, and preparation to withstand and survive successfully an earthquake. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> i'm very fortunate and so are other agencies to have a department of building inspection leader in the name of tom huey that made sure the building fees results in education and preparation for people like families and seniors to be better prepared in a multi
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cultural way. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> so we're now and then two specific grants today each for a hundred thousand dollars those grants will be granted to c y c and to conduct the training workshops to have practices in sro's buildings to have finally communications with youth in our city with seniors and family anybody's not only to prepare but practice everything from cpr
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to having enough applies to making sure there are ways in which to contact family madam clerk, any other business before this committee? men's all with a goal of making sure that everybody survivors successfully after a major earthquake. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> chinatown is particularly important to us because of the
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historically old buildings that people live in and the number of people that are condenses in this area we want to make sure you're all safe. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> thanks to the leadership of our rec and park we're here at a major center our for the square to make sure that the education programs can be conducted safely deeply in different languages but also do so at the willie playgrounds where c y c community colleges their sessions between my sessions of playing ping-pong (laughter)
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>> (speaking foreign language.) >> and again thanks to our leader and department of emergency here collaboration with our fire chief i want to especially thank her and her staff makes sure we're stave during the 4th of july weekend and we were but we're also working outside find chinatown to prepare young people and seniors and their families to make sure they have all the training and preparation we must do this on occasion every if one or years people move out and forgot we have better technology
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to help us and better practices as we learn i want to thank everybody that joins us to make sure that everybody is safer and make sure we don't have the devastation but people that are well prepared school sites, parks, recreation centers, sro's our senior housing complexed our family housing collections and nonprofits all engaged in a very good ongoing dialog to support each other that's why we will be a city that will survive the major earthquake.
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>> (speaking foreign language.) >> so let me now introduce someone that is a fanatic and already shown herself to be a great supervisor not only working on this but helping to create a lot of senior housing we'll, make those announcement in the short weeks to create more housing opportunity for chinatown and north beach but champion from the district let me introduce to you our supervisor julie christensen (clapping.) just. >> good morning. i think the best time is when we have leadership like our mayor ed lee and our department heads and they're working closely together
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with nonprofits like c y c and self-help for the elderly and the residents of the community to do good thing for chinatown in district 3 i'm excited bmw this program is a good example of the way city government worked with the nonprofits in the community and we all benefit but especially important that peep brarpt in this program they come to the train an earthquake will happen you know someday there will be a occasion we'll need the information i want everybody in this room to be among those people that know what to do that have the supplies and the information they need not only so keeping you informed we know keep ourselves save but be helpful to our neighbors and friends in the community i'm encouraging everybody to participate as a volunteer and an advocate
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in the neighborhood before i was supervisor i was always asking the city for money and support please give me money for this park or street or for that project it is wonderful as a periphery now to be the giver of these things to the community so i'm very grateful to mayor ed lee and to my colleagues at the board for being so generous this year with chinatown we have money for the nonprofits, we have money for safety we're going to make kearny street safer and our situations near lady shaw safe we have money to do do have money for the parks it is a good year for chinatown and district 3 with the budget i'd like to mention it is related to the earthquake safety program we have a project with the fire department and roof
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deck we'll put free smoke alarms in people's houses you only have to call - sorry. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> yeah, he get excited all that 234u78z very are a free smoke alarm call and basically contact and union contributes will put a free smoke alarm in
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our house to you and your neighbors will be safer please support in program and please give big thanks to the mayor and the c y c and self-help this is a great program (clapping) >> (speaking foreign language.) >> first of all, i need to thank you supervisor christensen you know for coming to talk to
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you today first of all, i want to tell you a story regarding myself you you know a person that touched was prepare this is very important for earthquake i joined the city one day before city earthquake as a service as luke the united nations is a major u.n. loss of the tragedy but i do the training bra i join the city and internet buildings but i helped the other departments how to internet and all those those i feel you know this is my duty to help you when there's a major event you need to do it yourselves that's why we put the fund for you know both like the
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mayor echo with the mayor said the young generation to help and then you know we don't want let me say people with respect and be treating as our angle to help out to reach out to make sure the public know how to prepare themselves during the major event but you know this program takes some time more an year with the mayors and supervisors help my department willing to fund the education we'll do more our department efficiently to do outreach before i'd like to ask a person from c y c to come up and say a
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few words (clapping) >> (speaking foreign language.) >> thank you thank you tom especially for the department of building inspection to make this possible also especially to the leadership of mayor ed lee and sxhieshgsz and all the department heads to make that possible but c y c we're going to launch this in partnership with the rec and park to offer working groups on community festers and have a
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display at the clubhouse for seniors and residents and business owners to get more prepared for the big earthquake coming in the next thirty years thank you for all the support and the program to be the presenter and outreach to the owns and seniors and residents in chinatown in their own language chinese and interesting and others to reach out we really hope the outreach is extended to the rest of the city thank you, mayor ed lee and others to make this possible.
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>> (speaking foreign language.) >> thank you (clapping.) now i'd like to ask you know ann annie choung. >> mayor sxhieshgz may i announces everyday you're coming to the square clubhouse.
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>> (laughter) this morning i was kind of worried we captain david has been wonderful every time we have to do something major he sends the officers to gentle talk to the folks outside and there's a nice environment but thank you to rec and park i wish they were here to see how both sarah and i from the c y c have been able to work siding with rec and park to bring this for the youth and residents in chinatown but today, i want on on behalf of the elderly on behalf of the self-help to ask our seniors today to give a big, big applause to mayor ed lee
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(clapping)
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speeding i want to announce that as of july thanks to tom from dbi and mayor ed lee and supervisor christensen we sarah and myself are going to put on weekly education working groups so the idea starting on
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july 20th we'll have a class every monday in the afternoon and go around you know and sign up all of the residents and all of the merchant and i sometimes here nonprofits workers our city workers may not be living within walking distance to chinatown and so we really need all the residents no chinatown to be prepared and educated thank you to do police department and department of emergency and rec and park to work on this project together thank you all (clapping.) >> okay. before i end the presentation also i would you know repeat again to people here the mayor that leads here a
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sxhieshgsz is here and the fire chief kings and the department of emergency and ann is here also bob that rec and park and, of course, everybody you know captain lazzaro is here and also i want to mention about. >> (repeated.) >> the constitution of the united states. choung from david chiu office our supervisor is our senator and assemblyman sorry and thanks to everybody coming to join us and stay over to go through a demonstration to see how to prepare yourselves for the next major event but this is not only earthquake we are aware of fire you know and other hopefully, you can enjoy and
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learn quite a bit from this thank you very much (clapping)
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>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in
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your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you
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do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's
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least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we
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are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many
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of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to
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save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in
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for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san
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francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for
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>> we love our parks, but we love... >> and the community who is really the core of it all, came together and said what we need is a place for our teenager to play, not just play grounds for the kids and soccer fields but we need a skate park that will keep the kids home in the neighborhood so they can play where they live. >> the children in the neighborhood and it will be a
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major boone. and we have generations, the youth generations that will be able to use this park in different places. >> the best park in san francisco right here. >> creating place where people can be active and lead, active, healthy life styles that are going to just stay with them for life. ♪ chair of the commission a few housekeeping if you could one please turn off your cell phones not no interrupt our meeting and
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two a member of the public that wishes to speak on an item we have pink speaker cards fill out with your name and our staff will call you at the time, we call the agendas and thank you to commissioner honda and media services for broadcasting this meeting to the public every time we meet >> sxhat commissioner lee commissioner perez commissioner vice president joseph sxheeg commissioner president tan. >> quorum and commissioner moshoyannis is absent this evening. >> great one edit to the agenda which is in item on the consent calendar item 5 b like to pull that out and put it on the regular agenda for the dublin
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but all else will remain the same all right. the first item of business is public comment on any business of the entertainment commission you, you does not see currently on the agenda are you coming up for that or is that later okay. any public comment? nope seeing none, public comment is closed we'll moving on to item 2 the approval of the minutes of july 21st, 2015, move to approve >> i second all right. a there is a motion and a second and any kaekz or edits to be made i don't sees any let's take a vote. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner vice president joseph commissioner perez sxhog commissioner president tan all right. that motion passes item