>> thank you. how do we approach the housing assistance? what strategies do we have? i imagine it's very challenging in today's renting market and housing market in general? >> a number of years ago, not remembering how far back. after the second lawsuit, the chamber's lawsuit. it was determined that housing would have to be a key component of any work that the city did, just setting aside the community living fund. this was a lawsuit against the city saying fine and good, people are coming out of laguna honda, but you can't come out unless you have somewhere to go. and the service about housing. the city at that point when they settled the lawsuit created a fund, a housing fund. that was specific for this population of people. and at that point a contract was put in place with westbay

housing, which has a different name now. brilliant corners. and they have been the organization to find the housing, to lease the housing, to do the work with the clients around making sure that things are going well. on the housing side. i mean these are folks still receiving case management. so it's a wrap around them. so that's what has been happening. now that requirement has come and gone. because we reached the number of people that the city said in the lawsuit that we would do. but we still have this relationship with brilliant corners. and so we are still working with them but they are the ones that find the housing. and sometimes that housing is in daily city, or sub-city, it's been in my understanding in the past for some population.

it's not necessarily going to be housing right here in san francisco. >> thank you. >> but harder and harder to find. >> i have a question. >> commissioner ow. >> for the last four years when the community funding [inaudible] san francisco put in $3 million a year. and today i see this california, right, money coming from the state, are we talking about this? >> the only other money that comes into this fund is for any of the staff that do time study. and so there could be time study money coming in. but the vast, vast majority of this money is local, general fund money. >> right, and this has nothing to do with the community living. >> i can't see that document -- >> the renewal for the aging. >> no, no, this community living

fund report. >> right; right. 100% funded by the city, and spent on behalf of the city. >> pretty much. there a little bit time study money, about $400,000 or $500,000, but the vast majority of the money is local money. we were able to design it locally and why we have such flexibility to change it when we have seen that the program wasn't reaching the goals we wanted. or maybe we didn't have enough case managers. whatever it be. we were able as time went on to change the program to reflect the needs of the community, which has been great. >> i have a question, i know, i have been keeping record in my community. there about three or four ladies who are talking about getting the wheelchair lift. they have a time trying to get up and down the stairs and to

get out. and i am just wondering, i know it's based on need. economic what have you. but is that something that -- how -- what i am thinking of, is that something that can be done in bulk. like go to the institution that produce this and say, we need five people or do you do it individually? for each person? or is there something like that you can buy in bulk? >> so the -- they have a relationship with the company that manufactures them? >> no, no. i am saying that -- >> the institute on aging with the program has a relationship with the manufacturer -- not the manufacturer but the program that the agency that supplies them.

but the first step would be to know if they have made an application for community living fund. and then they would, they would be found eligible or not. depending on the criteria. >> i would say we have -- we raised the eligibility for this program higher than we have for some of our other programs. but still only 300% of poverty. so there is a lot of people in the community that don't qualify. you can fit the need but still have too much income to qualify for the program. so it is a program that is designed for very low-income people and that does leave a lot of people out. but the thing to do is have people apply. and linda said they will do the resource and investigation and all that and figure it out. >> what i am thinking, if they

don't qualify, is there some way that we could get that sort of service to help them in some way to do it in bulk? if they don't qualify with the company that you are doing business with. is there some way we could help them out in terms of going in and asking for a discount? >> i am not sure. >> let's talk about that. >> i can look into that. >> i think that's not something that we can do in the community living fund. >> no. >> something that we look to do outside of that program. and is there another vehicle for us to do that. >> for us to do that. >> i think one of the things that we talked about a lot and people in the community have talked about forever, how do we provide service for those folks who are just above this; right. so this is i think a really interesting idea to think about what are some of those services that you need the entity to have the contract.

but again if you were doing a bulk purchase you might be able to lower the cost. >> lower the cost. >> great idea. >> this is what i am thinking about, could we talk about that? >> sure. >> thank you, i am making a list of people. thank you. any other questions? okay. >> i have a general question. so this is based on philadelphia model, how does it compare now to that model? >> so i -- philadelphia is a little different. because they're a nonprofit organization and they have some of the same programs that we have. for example, in most states adult protective services is part of the government. but years the state asked this nonprofit to take it on because there was so much corruption in

philadelphia. and it's an interesting organization what we think of government programs alongside nonprofits. they are also the entry point for the pace program and nursing homes. which is -- we don't have any of that in california. washington and oregon have similar opportunities there. so they have an area of aging that in many ways they have a waiver program, and they provide direct service and a policy body and have this interesting mix of programs. so when you come through their doors, you are assessed. and this is the same for us, when people come to us, they are assessed. in our in-taking screening unit. for any program that we are aware of in our program. both things we do in-house and things that are external to us. and that's where we really mirror them. we don't do screening for pace for nursing homes, for example,

but we can give people information about that. the folks have a great understand of the programs. it's part of why over the years we really built our in-taking screening unit to what it is today. and now will be introducing, we're not calling it the hub anymore, but in my mind, where we have veteran services and medi-cal and everybody in the same place. i think we mirror them in many ways. we certainly have kept to the model of case managers having low case loads and this purchase of service. and we have seen great success with that. we have not moved into some of these other arenas because we feel there are people in the community that do that very well. but -- >> thank you. so i came across a couple of patients earlier this year where they were placed in hospice. and two years later they needed

to get out. because they were doing actually quite well. >> yes, and as is often the case. >> yeah. >> does this fund also address these people? >> this fund can address anyone as long as they meet the income eligibility and the assessment giving their health and their ability and who can live in the community. who want to live in the community and are able to live in the community. and again there is almost nothing we can't do, because it's local money. so we have this ability to create the support that the particular person. please feel free to refer people. >> thank you. >> thank you. next, could we have the advisory