all right. thank you, thank you all right. everyone will you prelim stand and put your raise your right hand of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all thank you, very much. good afternoon, everyone today

is wednesday, september 8th is regularly retirement meeting thank you for all attending and the staff none sunshine said thank you. i wanted to say thank you on behalf of the board for all our work sometimes that is a thank less job mr. clerk if we could please roll call commissioner cohen commissioner meiberger commissioner bridges is on her way >> droilg brisbane commissioner driscoll commissioner paskin-jordan pr commissioner stansbury is quorum is presented. >> thank you very much please call the next item thank you ladies and gentlemen, public comment is open at this time. >> thank you, president i'm patrick bradshaw regarding the

potential investment in the loan pool it was good warning the retirements system is asked to purchase. >> $26. million no others secondary market willing to purchase it unfortunately, this simultaneously suggests the retirement system maybe under the quote greater pool theory an investment pool investment using the assumption they'll be able to phil fill it later to and then greater pool this is packaged not because you believe that is worst the price but rather you may believe all be able to sell to so o to someone else down the road curtail the

investments conducting due diligence until you vote on the thresholds issue commissioner stansbury that is people's no. 1 precedent to invest in another city agency which is akin to self-a deal i again distributed a handout to the commissioners showing the city be routinely e-mailed did agenda to interested persons list and at least 7 board and commissioners have background and explanatory documents on and on online adjacent to the online postings it long past time for the retirement board to begin providing the same level of transparency and other whereas the retirement systems

beneficiaries and planned members that the city commissions provide to our constituents we need to move on this and do it quickly not rocket science. >> is it true, mr. shaw like to call of john, i have a speaker card for him. >> thank you. i directed this handout i'm going to read quickly glorious marks had hair wake up up call in august they corrected and i have no idea when the bail marketed will begin to say the same thing it is time to try to prepare for this implementing the hedge fund i sited a couple of articles about pension funds that are looking to derisk you certainly not lagging in that

respect you're trying to derisk there are paying a longer time i'll moving down to the middle the page with the florida to remain staff i'd like to make the suggestion you do the same it you pay your staff an incentive fee was not to remain the staff but incentivizes them and direct them i do xhaerth thooig to show your paying two base points for the staff to manage one billion dollars of asset you'll pay the hedge funds would be you'll be paying them 2 hundred times as much okay commissioner driscoll might quibble with that is fine of one

no 5 you'll pay hedge funds two them that you're paying our staff and paying this is the hedge fund to cover 5 percent the assets you have to figure out who what to do with the 95 percent especially the public entities that has overdone it's benchmarks by. >> small platinum to paying our staff incentive fee subsidies and paying them well and highest is the single best a thing to do as a board to deliver alpha if a the ceo mentioned the end of july my guess after august it is probably less than that i wouldn't look upon paying the extra salaries to staff as an expense the way the critics saw by the best investment for the

retirees thank you thank you very much. next speaker. is ms. kay walker thank you and good afternoon, everyone this is a about the pension fund investments i'll talked with the mayor's office of housing and listen to the tape review of trying to figure out what the investment was i don't know how far you've gotten with that to me it sounds okay. it is on market rate maybe the liability it questionable but this is my individual investment i want to see what that is and the 9.5 it sounds like a guaranteed fueled i would perp i don't know that much about what all the others investments yield if it is even

a little bit above average this is a point in the favor since wall street is going like this also it is only market rate and i think that is very important based on the appreciation ratio right now i like this is going to be i would put not contract not continued nonetheless feasibility under certain circumstances and as a member of this system and a city retired city worker i'd like to see in the contract i know that mayor presidential he's not been reliable i've started with prop c in that context where the police have the money the 26 point 5 thousand what is he

going to do with the money gardened from our investment matt haney would it be going towards below grade housing not to do something else not to raise the amount to market rate and that would go into the contract if i understand this loan correctly or investment correctly in that the investigating of investing of this we'll be reefs to the mayor to invest he put in the newspapers it is for below grade housing i don't understand the secondary matthews thing. >> this is a very contained investment i wish maria benjamin she's been dealing with that for 0 long time and could answer the

questions in a different manner. >> next speaker >> thank you very much commissioner cohen and commissioners i wanted to take the opportunity to deliver the good news that let's see last wednesday one week ago sb 185 passes in the state assembly and josh is expected to sign it arrest wisconsin we saw on august in the chronicle and the laments discussing the study that shows that al has lost over $05 billion with a b over the

previous calendar year and long term investors will respond to one year just pointing out the direction those investments have happened the grant foundation and sf at a time glood glad to see thatplegic is not here given you had a closed session i wanted to speak brief to items 10 and 11 for tobacco you guys moved to level 3 in 1998 and the language listed it quote due to the existing litigation prototype legislation and restrictions relating to the tobacco industry, etc. in addition to 9 into 32 and 350 will likely pass on friday 50

percent less petroleum by 2030 this isn't the kind of governmental action that will effect the markets that moves you to level 3 for tobacco today, you'll look at in june of 2016 and move 3 months latter in the language the retirement board directed staff to engage in constructive dialogue during the level 2. >> after 5 months it was determined that everyone who is leaving all right. left you'll move ahead with the action you voted this year to activate the carbon 2 hundred and it's been six months now the only precedent from level 2 to 3 is 5 months i'm not suggesting the amount of investment is similar to the fossil fuel but their 3

percent or less of our portfolio and after 6 months we've seen it is barely begun sf san francisco has a self consultant of timeline but the movement board is not only fluid but. >> 3 seconds. >> very, very slow. >> we've discussed the carbon with the committee but it is the boards responsibility not the purview of the s g committee to implement the social policy of the, if you will full board we have heard in commissioner stansbury and commissioner meiberger we need to do level 2 well, we've heard this but not happening there appears no drive to make this happen and the affordability for it is not happening we urge strong action now. >> any public comment on this

item? at this point please approach the podium. >> my name is my name is tie i've been e-mails the boarding board members for 6 months with no response and right now i think the moment is critical because i'm talking about the fair expedition it funds performance and extends the reason why it is critical as you may know the market it very well actually, the market is up 3 hundred and 90 points and today plus 2 hundred and it went down to mrunls 250 it is very, very critical it is not only the correction okay even at the current investment your funds you know it will not do well perp will i'm forced to put 55 percent of my family's investment into the stable vail

fund as you may know the stable value fund the fund is around 1 percent but the expense is point that basis point that is really, really high i could go online on the internet and get a better rate all the other few minutes i copied those are the website and the expense it rankles from 38 basis point to 95 base points for real estate investments okay. this is really, really high and then we don't mind if we pay high expenses if we can get the performance but the performance is not there the fund from the consultants is not doing well, all the mid cap and their below market perform from

2015 the equity in the expense ratios are over 40 basis point and i'm really concerned because the market right now is below dow jones 17 thousand it is going up both that and today it is not just the market correction the market is going down it is going to be possible a bear market means it could 0 go to 10 thousand and the goal maker from prudentially is not protecting us all of them all they do as you grow older they recommend you put more money into the bond funds by the way, it is the bear funds is not performing well, i've said many times why can't we have other

choices like short time or medium term bonds we have no choices but i have written to you many, many times but don't get no response i'm talking to a wall okay go when will you respond to me and lastly the hedge funds the hedge fund if you're clever enough you'll choosing choose the best hedge fund and according to the studies of mit most of the hedge funds they're very transparent the reporting is very flimsy. >> 30 seconds and their performance is terrible they only report the performance before they disbuild the profits so you got to be extremely careful with the reporting okay and finally i feel for the other

union members that's their hard earned money i myself put into stable funds but people don't have the times or effort. >> time. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for your comments any other members of the public members of the public who wish to speak i want to make a announcements the board of supervisors made a hearing request for the retirement board staff to make a report to the board of supervisors on our plan for fossil fuel deinvested in terms of the legislative process our staff will be working with the board of supervisors clerk of the board to get it this item heard most likely in thirty days and be noticed but i want you all to know that. >> so seeing there are no other

members of the public that like to comment in general public comment at this point public comment is closed. and mr. clerk can you call the north america. >> the next item is closed session an action item. >> we're going to go into closed session before we do that we have to take public comment on to whether or not we should go into closed session we want to open up for public comment at this point. >> thank you commissioner cohen at the end of my testimony i'd like to categorical assurance from either the president or the vice president it the missouri a a investment will not be discussed. >> it will not be discussed in the collection. >> as for the hedge fund the t l buildings it is the only way to protect what's taking showing so long and holding up, up the

hedge funds the math declined to invest in the hedge funds during the performance review thank goodness for sfgovtv closed xaing in the video it was recorded on tape a lengthy heated argument for the - concerning composition and the hedge funds review panel apparently increased from 5 numbers including the general consultants which the board i believe directed last january shouldn't be part of the panel it was stated quote vote for us the consultants that we've hired we'll fire the consultants and replace them unquote to which we have a 6 person panel to review

this we already have an offer and acceptance we believe is highly confused ever qualified to participate we are in the process of a contract but if we have to waits until the september 12th meeting to find out if in the case we have the process over by months but i wouldn't be happy about the unlateral changes to composition of the 5 member review panel remarkably in response to a request i've placed it was provided written records in january from - which included the documents from commissioner

meiberger regarding the sf hedge funds investment which mr. >> 30 seconds. >> the gentleman never respond to at all question can't find another board in the city in which a commissioner is place a formal written request to the executive director and you shouldn't get that performance review. >> time. >> thank you. >> any other members of the public that want to speak at this time. >> i just wanted to know from the hearing on following fuel investment is going to be public. >> of course >> and will it be announced here. >> i suppose it can. >> or in the before i begin. >> we can put to on the website so you can check the website in case of the meeting.

>> any other members of the public that wish to speak at this time so we're going to go into closed session ladies and gentlemen, public comment is closed. >> excuse me. >> (inaudible). >> i'm sorry i don't, i'm sorry i don't public that came and waited i apologize for having you wait for so mr. e many hours it was important work we were taking care of now i'm going to entertain a vote from f this body or i'd like to entertain a motion not to disclose what was discussed in closed session. >> is there a motion? >> so moved. >> public comment. >> before the vote. >> yes. thank you for the reminder i want to take public

comment on the motion not to disclose the closed session thank you very much public comment is closed. and let's take a roll call vote on the motion. >> commissioner bridges commissioner cohen commissioner driscoll commissioner makras commissioner meiberger commissioner paskin-jordan commissioner stansbury that item passes. >> thank you very much mr. clerk, call the next item i think it is item 5 arrest an action approval of the minutes for august meeting. >> may i have it a motion to accept those minutes. >> we'll take public comment hold open. >> i will - >> we can take public comment now since we made mr. patrick wait. >> move on the - as with the retirement board minutes it

doesn't accurately summarize the actual conversation held in july the executive secretary went too far in omitting from the august 12th minutes a number of things that occurred during the report in august clearly recorded on the sfgovtv closed expanding a heated argument regarding the hedge funds review panel apparently increased in 5 to 6 members including e right direction s general consultant that board directed last january with not be part of the panel mr. her stayed quote if you hired a consultant if they we'll fire

the consultant and replace them unquote unquote closed expanding recorded the conversation that there would be a consultant who was not e right direction s general consultant but the process appeared quite inflates and not do you want and continue to do you want them for the october meeting and direct the gentleman to update the minutes personality information that should be adequately summarized not verbatim minutes but you need to enclose a significant issue the offer will i summarized minutes need to stop key portions of key conversations have been omitted when they should do adequately

smierdz and not completely eliminated from the minutes the conversation never occurred on video we have a duty to accurately report what triefrz in p.s. meetings not verbatim but it should be exclusive. >> any other members of the public that want to speak and add public comment to item 5? >> all right. i'm to have a motion to accept those minutes. >> i'll move adoption of the minutes. >> a change on item number 3 to the flying in bold i'd like those that be regular print like all the traditional are you think that the body wants to move towards highlighting certain comments in minutes that that is something that we

discuss and vote on rather than letting it happen at will. >> commissioner makras i believe the language our pointing out to the summary of public comment that was submitted by a member of the public so we want to reflect that summon the way it was submitted by the member of the public maybe - >> this particular section is summarizing general public comment there are the summon by the court skeet of his comment and the photograph of written hundred and 50 written or less examine that includes as he submits it. >> i'll ask anybody that can -

was it tents e sent in it was it sent in i accept. >> f it was underlined and submitted in his written summation. >> so do you want to. >> keep the minutes. >> is there a second approval of the minutes. >> all right. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? no all right. this motion passes unanimously the minutes are accepted. >> mr. clerk. >> item 6 approval of the minutes july 8th retirement board meeting. >> all right. let's take public comment on item 6 please. i'd like to thank this body for going back to the draurgd in rising those minutes i'm still of the opinion they don't accurately reflect what

commissioner stansbury said was it would be unprecedented make this investment in another city department in the minutes still don't clearly say what commissioner stansbury said was it would be unprecedented like horse shoes it is a quote but still not accurate. >> well, are there any other members of the public that want to speak public commen closed. >> commissioner stansbury. >> i'm satisfied with the changes that are made to the minutes it is important the minutes are not a rip indicate verbatim but it was in the spirit of what was said the minutes accomplish >> thank you very much is there a motion? >> i'd like to move with a

correction on page 8 in red the last i'd like to do you want the minutes p as present on page with the following amendment on page 924, the red line please be advised the ringing of and use of cell phones, shaw covered 2 percent was the supplemented i r r so correct 5 slash two to 2.2. >> okay. >> all right. is there a motion to accept the amended minutes? i think actually i'm sorry >> i want to make a suggestion on the minutes the inclusive secretary is spending a lot of time i think at the beginning or end a reference to the videotape to people can hear verbatim what was said and interpret whether

or not those minutes accurately reflect what was said like a reference or footnote to another comments to help the members of the public who really want to see what was said or hear that's a suggestion i don't know if that is easy. >> thank you for the suggestion. >> okay. so a motion not seconded thank you. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> of accepting > opposed? nay. >> the i's have it it unanimously mr. clerk, call please the north america please. number 7 consent calendar which is an action item. >> all right. public comment on this consent calendar. >> all right. seeing no members of the public is here let's entertain a motion to accept the

consent calendar. >> i'll move. >> thank you very much. >> second. >> second. >> moved and >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? nay the i's have it unanimously mr. clerk that item passes. >> reports opens is retirement fund for june 30th, 2015. >> sir this is item number 8 you called i'd like to continue this item until next month. >> want to take public comment. >> okay. thank you could you please call next item the matters and review. >> i'd like to continue item number 9 and continue item 10 and continue item 11 call item 12. >> item 12 an action to cancel

and continue with the securities lending. >> (inaudible). >> thank you okay. colleagues any discussion. >> commissioner meiberger. >> the first question on page mr. chief you reviewed this have you not. >> yeah. >> a question on page 16 inquires regarding the rfp for the - ; is that correct so cal societies will be involved in this request for proposal. >> yes. >> okay let's see i do have a question on custody for

securities in china should we engage with the x t qualified for the investment in china i want to make sure that the candidates have experience with the custody of those actions is that provision included here? i know not all of the custodial banks handle custody of the unlisted shares in china >> i don't recall seeing questions in the rfp we'll have a conversation with cal will that satisfy our question. >> it is very important. >> we will make sure the questions are added. >> that was my concern the other issues regarding the securities lending issue securities lending issue i wanted to make sure that the custody bank has alp experience

in this if we could ask the question if custody bank has frozen any executes i want that line of questioning included i didn't see anything directly if you recall that was a big deal when the cash account was frozen and had to take the security in kind i want to make sure that never happens again. >> shall we word the question as follows: >> okay. thank you. >> those are the main areas of inquiry i have okay sir. >> a tactical point i recommend we cancel the rfp and binge it back to the month thing why i

believe that. >> this thing is two years ago old we've had a blackout for two years none of us can talk to the players for two years this commission has leeway and courtesy for whatever due diligence we do for something of this importance not getting into why anything takes two years we are at a disengaging e disadvantaged in a black auto period for two years we should cancel it and reach out to see when the world has and approve the rfp if not you're keeping the commission in the dark let me tell you why it is important it is important for me i've advocated many, many times about a certain program they had where they have frozen our accounts i believe we've lost money i

believe that we have been harmed by them and i have a gag order on might have for two years this is a not the way rfps should run we should be able to put an rfp and thirty or 60 days have it really a gag order on us i want to release the gag order give us time to due our due diligence and let me say the hole rfp process here taking two years is something we should all just reflect and i'd like us to come back after sometime and figure out why the rfp this magnitude could have been done timely everybody responder we have it in the a black box is that the way we want to run our business

we have another rfp out there what did hedge funds and once again we h have launched it two soon and people are respond and we have their rfps in the black box it is not fair we're running a boycott i legitimate business president people to do business with us we're messing up who thought biggest ones we have something is wrong i want us to have breathing room to look at without a blackout over us on a intentional basis. >> what you're asking for not in line with what staff is asking. >> two stages staff recommend we cancel it and reissue i support that i want a lag times. >> san francisco do you have a

lag time. >> one month next week meeting i'll give the commission the opportunity to respond. >> that's acceptable to staff. >> may be one quick question is thirty days enough. >> yes. laura. >> i heard him say that was enough. >> one more point not to belabor we've extended the contract for two years you know against everything we talk about we talk about every contract should be out every 5 years everyone should have a shot for our business and renew our contracts and renew our way of.org we've extended two singular years for free their contract is probably a decade old you know in the private sight everybody is saying something is one thing wrong. >> we got it we got it. >> did you get our question

answered. >> i thought i'll suggest you could prove cancelation and approve the issuance in thirty days no to bring it back in thirty days. >> commissioner bridges. >> one of the questions when i came on the board we were talking about rfps i too think this is a long-term and school it and also i think there is an area we should focus on most custodials don't in every country all over the world in the u.s some in asia and realistic and this talks about the process for the custodials and time to know more i like the idea of canceling and talking about the areas that are specifically i'm not going into

the other market like meagerly markets not an adjust to the rfp this is very important. >> mr. pilpal. >> i believe the way this is written the motion can be stated for it to be time certain so commissioner perhaps that's what our attorney was advising us that's one, two on the last technical does the thing i doefrdz recently in another conference we are depending on tax compliance basically on our custodials how good is our custodian with the tax issues we're investing in the hundred plus countries let alone e b ti because of private equity and

let's make sure they have the capacity and they can tells you whether or not they can and cannot do that. >> the last thing i want to say it is an asset liability when you're looking at the aspect we should look at it paerp in the investment the risk you concur is what you get what happens with a lot of the results they still get it in an passage function you make it on a daily basis this is a why this should be that way. >> just one quick suggestion could you red line the changes particularly for the foreign obscurities and the securities lentz. >> not be brought back in a red line but able to provide you the

red line before we post it but not brought back for a fact the commissioner will say released october 1st. >> i'm not inclined to do it in the future i think we're giving ourselves a little bit of time to do due diligence we don't prejudice the process but value what we bring back by what we learn. >> can you clarify. >> say that one more time. >> i recommend we get the rfp and that we bring that back at the next regularly scheduled meeting we'll all have a red line two commissioners that are questions they want to add to the package. >> i think i understand so i'm going to take public comment and going to look to you to make a motion.

>> i have a question. >> sure. >> i cannot imagine that many customs that can do that the reason why you did it if they detailed the rfp you didn't find that to be an issue because their how many are there that can do this on one hand. >> four to five. >> how many responses to the rfp. >> global. >> when we received the responses on the last rfp divided do it in the gloeshlt custody plus securities lentz and those only on executes lending only 4 responses on the global side. >> not many people that are capable i don't think there is a problem to delay it a month not a lot of differences so i

designate to staff a why was it detailed for two years. >> that was part of the closed session - shove been i take full responsibility it was detailed it was my decision to make it a lower priorities based on the other rfps and based on the organization. >> i hope the tieback was not part of the closed session or what was it not. >> i didn't bring that up specifically i want an answer. >> the board has voted to not disclose any of the closed session so i think we shouldn't discuss. >> let's take public comment, public comment is open for item 12 an action item seeing no

comment public comment is closed. at this time i ask we school it and bring an revised rfp to the next scheduled board meeting. >> is there a second seconded by >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? nay i'm sure i mean, he i (laughter) the i's have it unanimously mr. clerk, please bring the next item. >> item 13. >> action item recommendations up to one million real estate partners four mr. coker. >> very good norman. >> welcome back our private team and we'll walk through this as quickly as we can.

>> we'll try to be brief in our comments this next investment for services in real estate partners for fosters for the capital martin luther king one of the leeds investors in special investments global warming they have been investing in real estate depressed investments in special situations for over two decades and they have done it quite wells as you may know our historical declassified is 3 percent over the last 3 years targeting higher private real estate strategies and have xufdz in excess of 12 percent pates our take the for the opportuneic targeting 12 to 15 percent in this cutters environmentalist as

they continue to come bless with the raising trick or treaters on the horizon to say challenging to achieve returns at the higher rage we've seen under written from the gateway city and counties cities that be beginning to come down and difficult to achieve the 16 percent type of return we're seeing that in the meagerly market at risk is, in fact, one the few strategies we've seen going forward that is still targeting returns at the higher ends of the rage in excess of 15 percent the reason they're focused on depressed real estate assess their purchasing depressed real estate loans and other equities that discounts

the intrinsic value of the assets we're particularly excited about the positioning and activity and expertise in we were to pursue the non-restricted performing loan opportunities in europe which as many of you may know is several years behind the u.s. in terms of the financial institutions over there hung on to those portfolios and their own brand initiated by the d c p those proposals are given to be unloeptd loaded this is accelerating actually there is quite a bit of opportunities service is one of the largest investors and it is well, to pursue those activities. >> to arts comments we see is

services diego sanchez this is a competent this is the correct approach given the opportunities that the ervin pan non-performance loans and the investment in the u.s. we believe their deem value approach to correct the achieving of the returns we're seeking one point the service looks at the down privilege in 2004 was a difficult time they finished it during the height in 2008 and as you can see they have a respectable 10 percent eir return this goes to showing you show you the downside risk overall for those reasons for the market opportunities for where their taerth in they're overall inhabits we recommend a

recommendation up to hundred million dollars to fund for. >> quickly to build on to art and peter's very strong risk controls a particular conservatism leverage and fund two has american people leverage of below 50 percent much lower than the market will allow and in addition their patient investors they've raised 3 prior funds over the past 13 years and they're putting their capital in the math and that is in their investment track record. >> one final point we're recommending $50 million but seeking the boards approval up to one hundred million dollars and move forward to the $50 million by the partnership but welling we reserve the right

to increase that amount if we're able to negotiate concessions. >> any others discussion let's take public comment thank you thoikz upper other business before this committee? >> seeing none public comment is closed. at this time is there a motion for this item. >> i move we adapt staff's recommendation and thank you very much is there a second to adopt that. >> there is a motion and a second mr. clerk could you please actually mr. clerk we'll do it by >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? nay the i's have it thank you. >> thank you. >> mr. clerk, please call next

item 16. >> just going to step out of order. >> number 16 appointments to the mayors. >> i want to pull this out i've made a recommendation of committee assignment and brought to my attention that commissioner stansbury is now interested in serving as chair the governance committee. >> that's right. >> yes. >> i don't know if you want to have any words if not we'll go to public comment no that is okay. perfect public comment on committee assignments the governance committee all right. seeing none, public comment is closed. is there a motion for this item >> we'll move the item for the chair. >> thank you the commission for

the courtesy of spending this i was recommend to chair commissioner stansbury and i spoke and he expressed an interest i'm happy to be grantdz by the president's i'm not necessarily per skwautdz by the argument at the previous commission meeting i thought the arguments would make me say no, it's the times vote and you recent the right to vote yes or no but it undermines the president's a little bit sorry that's how i feel you raised the argument that there's some form of seniority and you should rise up to the seats i think in principle that applies but in reality no, it excludes people not being able to take a leadership role not

giving you unifying vote for chair people that did not sits on the commission on the committee so you were using argument with no legs but in the global picture if someone has a particular interest i'm happy to make it work for us so i'll move the item with commissioner stansbury being the chair. >> thank you very much a second. >> second. >> thank you all right. all right. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? nay the motion passes unanimously congratulations mr. commissioner stansbury you're the chair of the governance committee. >> i thought we took public comment. >> she was asking for nay votes

my apologies we'll have four or five hour meetings we're delubrication mr. clerk let's go back to item number 14 please call it. >> in the decision the chief officers appointed mr. coming backer. >> i want to accept our report as submitted and thank you and we'll take public comment and see if there is any discussion on the board is that acceptable. >> absolutely. >> thank you. >> any members of the public that want to comment on item number 14 please come forward. >> colleagues, any comments. >> i want to mention the total return for the fiscal year to date is men's here which is sorry it is on the other report

your 3.9 was the return it is important we mention. >> thank you for calling that to your attention commissioner cohen the ccii ccii c i o the procedures out of closed session so can we have him summarize those. >> i can in 30 seconds item 630 males from a policy that's what we got and requested this in may if closed in august regarding at&t la $25 million and we received that that recommendation was made to the board in june and closed again last month and e n right direction we requested $10 million and got it it closed 9 days after the request. >> thank you very much i appreciate that.

>> all right. is there a motion to accept that representation. >> discussion. >> oh, excuse me a discussion item since no public comment we'll move on to the north america. >> the prefrdz compensation report. >> thank you if you don't mind all to accept the report as submitted thank you is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment seeing none, public comment is closed colleagues is there any that he decision on the manager's report all right. seeing none is there a motion to accept oh, this is an action item please - >> 17. >> 17 discussion the closing arguments. >> mr. jewish i'd like to accept our report as submitted

is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment arrest public comment is closed. is closed only item 17 colleagues, any discussion on the closing arguments as administrative update all right. looks like there is no discussion needed i'd like to point out because maria newport has over a thirty year career she's announced they are retirement effective this year and try to get her here to make a final report to the boards on the strategic plan but i wanted to make sure i can acknowledge her and bring accumulation back to the board which she's retired. >> thank you for that accomplishment so this is a discussion item mr. clerk, call item 18. >> 18 discussion item the

retirement board member good of the order. >> i'd like to request if staff is willing to do in spite of something like this would staff be willing to send a letter to the peers on deferred coming maybe pick the 25 that are sized or around our size and ask them if their recently memory and history on the insurance policy components of their operation if they have a claim and kashdz in on the claim maybe a million dollars and above the shufz don't talk about the option i thought that type of action and direction will be helpful to the committee to know if anybody has

cashed in on an insurance policy. >> just for pointed of classification you're talking about the wraper. >> right you can pick the number i reached out to a few shufz i can't find anybody that's patdz it is private and they can't release this information our fellow agencies we exchange information all the time it helps us we're being 38 base points. >> it is 35 percent the return to the members that's my first request the second request 25 is i have an outstanding request on fossil fuel the worst offenders when bath will anticipate us getting the list

of offenders. >> that is a discussion that i had mentioned to you brought to the committee which it was and we're going to bring it back to the committee different approaches how to define worst offenders and working that through the controller board. >> okay. >> quick that's it and any other. >> i have a couple of - one thing i brought up was the palm tree people called and i called myself we - you go through act automatic active voice and get a voicemail at of minutes i i'd like to see i thought we talked about that lets agendize that and talk about that it is a real issue i

get e-mails every week from partners saying they can't get through to someone i mentioned to the fact that we don't really hear about people with the experiences but hear from people that had a lens positive experience and some of the complaints are pretty much the same across the board frankly and i think there is some sort of an issue internally we need to rectify someone calls and we give them bad information the second thing they don't get a timely response for 3 they say actually, i think ross are the mainly the two issues they get bad information or not a this responded this is something that

should be considered a mission statement that lace out the top couple priorities i envision three or four believability points on every wall of every single employee that deals with disbursements like i will not give out bad information i will he will a parent i will get the answer two i'll responds within 48 hours i'll tell him i don't have an answer and provide a timeline recently two people contacted me those are people i know they have a lens positive experience trying to schedule an appointment given bad information or routed to the wrong person so i'd like to also see maybe you guys delivering this mission

statement internally and come back and talk to us whether or not you think that is predicament that is an ongoing issue that comes up all the time and i think that will work those are the two main things i'd like to see us agendize the phone tree and talk about if in terms of people shouldn't be calling with a 6 minute responses and end up in a voicemail and people call them back and give them bad information but make that the best possible experience. >> we actually have a new strategy initiative weeping we'll be presenting in the plan to replace the phone system and upgrade it and change the whole experience the first one was put in place before i started

working here 16 years ago and it was focused on delivering information and that explains why you sit through 3 minutes of announcements of trying to hopefully answer your questions so you'll hang up we'll bring that back as port of the strategic plan i'm sorry to hear the two folks you talked to have bad experience i agree the vast majority of the work that the staff does is accurate. >> timely but we'll take our suggestions and bring back as part of a training program a new focus to the board for their consideration for funding in the upcoming budgeting budget we'll make sure of the staff to provide timely and accurate information. >> i think this something that the fundamental to the culture

and needs to be in the face here's the top two goals and i appreciate your suggestion. >> we'll agendize it and deal with the agenda okay so is there any other things down on this ends. >> commissioner meiberger. >> i want to echo commissioner stansbury point and address another concern by a member of the public member of the public pacific shay i listened to the case to post agenda background materials on line with the members of the committee as other bodies do i want to see that as agendas oftentimes the members of the public members don't have the items electronically it would, nice to have them ahead of time i received an e-mail from an customer that didn't know did not get the agenda and didn't

know the material didn't come to agendize to have those materials posted online to the members have access to those in advance that is a constructive thing for our customers i included factors articles i read in public perils number one was the from pensions and investment the institutional investors the new york face managers that was hit by $2.4 million as we go into hedge funds one of the issues to consider it the redemptions by the other partners in the hedge funds create angle event selling assets we should be aware of the tops the other item in the board of materials had to do with the

market turmoil as many of you may know the mashltsd with volatile the last month i excluded an article by the wall street journal included the metal down hedge funds managers like to promise the investors protection and the recent stock swing many are caught off gaudy see certainly the volatile events in the past shows the sharp ones raymond from bridge water was mentioning reinforcing are the best of the best we had negative returns we should bear in mind the premise for hedge funds to provides protection and recent experience has not shown that to be so thaels. >> i have one item to request

our meagerly managers program he haven't heard from our partners in a while i'd like to schedule an judgment to where we are and what that program looks like work with staff on framing exactly what i'm looking to get out of this conversation thank you. >> anything else. >> may i ask we talked about getting things agendize when. >> that's a good question certainly i believe my request can be agendize decided in the next thirty days i imagine your item you suggested. >> i know you mentioned the strategy i can plan next meeting. >> we intend. >> that's where you said - >> pardon me. >> next meeting. >> i don't understand. >> this meekly and you said ms.

newport will be here and you mentioned the strategic planning and right. >> what about the value statements or mission statement. >> i believe that's little purview of the executive director to dorm how to roll out the quality shaurps program within the department we would like to bring forward to you if, in fact, it will require additional resources staff or a consultant we'll bring that forward to the board and again, we appreciate and we take serious is circumstances that have been subscribed in their interaction that is unacceptable level of service for us i'll respectfully say i would not say that conforms in thirty days until we discuss it

internally how to precedes we'll definitely follow-up with the board on what we decided. >> what's an predicament time. >> i don't know well, i don't know that open ended without any sort of goal i'm talking about one sheets of paper with simple statements i'm sure a lot of organizations hire consultant i'm pretty much we know you guys can sit down and put our heads together to think about your expectation i don't think that three or four months is a reasonable amount of time. >> we have no staff here on purpose provided false information so putting the sign in front do not provide false information. >> excepts they don't knows so answer and question they don't

know. >> training and having be, of course, a training so guarantee they know how to find or provide information and that is from an original prospective the most effective to approach this make sure there is train and there is certification people learn from the training and basically teach people you don't work at nord stormwater the exercise is not always right but get what can to them. >> what i'm talking about not training but a higher level mission statement what is important to us as an organization so that staff deals with participants i mean do we have guidelines. >> our mission says and provides correct answers and take correct benefits to the folks that are entitled. >> what's is expectation to

return a phone call to a participant when they call in terms of amount of time is it written down anywhere. >> no. >> is it in the cultural to return a phone call within twenty-four hours or 48 hours those are the simmer things this is has been going on for a couple of months i am you guys to think that this and i'll bring it up at the next board meeting it is in a timeframe that will be good enough i'm push again. >> understood. >> mr. clerk, please call 19 excuse me. >> this area of service requires the communications one i noticed a lot of improvements omission the or on the website

people are accumulating people are able to schedule appointments on line people still refuse to use the computer they use the telephone we don't know about getting wrong answers how significant but it's been going on for sometime when you come in for the strategic plan a couple of answers does a phone system exist is there money in the budget if there is make 50 calls to the peers around the country is it done effectively plan for the service calls this was how we'll make if work that's all the issues of training and combho is going to do it if service that important what can and cannot do and

figuring out the priorities. >> follow-up what should commissioner stansbury talk to the members when we get those complaints. >> i'll ask him refer them to me i'll track down the source of misinformation i'll i'll be happy to this board should knows the public should knows if you're unable to schedule an appointment you give my office and call i'm making sure you get an appointment and if there's false information or you have questions about some of the information i'd like to as the executive director know what information or at least what you understood my staff to say because it is a two-way process in communication i'm not saying that little people who spoke to commissioner stansbury were macro anything up

because i happen to know the circumstances of one of them and there was an incorrect answer given in one the cases but there is always some questions what the one side heard my office is here i am talking about to deal with those i don't deal with those on the regular basis but orange countyly. >> you'll respond. >> please refer those to me. >> commissioner stansbury deserves a response he was tilly chang talking about long to get get a response those are two or three business days you can't say that. >> well, some response is what- we're elected members commissioner stansbury and i and others at the table we air the voices of the members we want to

have the assurance the responses are taking care of that's the nature. >> you need to investigate it and take time to get them the right answer that takes a few days he was in recipe. >> that's exactly what i'm asking. >> four or five days. >> the other item the good of the order for the agenda when may we expect this be to clauntd. >> we'll discuss the agenda items and coordinate it that way. >> okay. fair enough. >> thank you. >> oh i'm sorry i'm so sorry please. >> on the not just trying to come up with a positive point but in the past the retirements seminars that the system whether

conduct for members were cancelled because not enough people i noticed the next one is sold-out to me in approving the education we'll schedule more i'm trying to show you the service side is working well and other things we'll try to improve. >> public comment anyone else want to weigh in okay public comment is closed. >> item 19. >> 19 discussion item for the board member reports and comments. >> brief reports. >> start with or we can take the reports as submit. >> hold on commissioner driscoll would you like to say anything. >> i've put in some of the slides. >> i think the other folks are

encountering those are issues we'll face but in terms of an investment structure in the infrastructure area people have a lot of experience with it picture very interesting examine by someone that is very experienced her company this is the united states it is difficult to do the infrastructure well, we've been could go infrastructure in a different way for a long time one of the problems in the capital market most of the infrastructure is done by governments whether city, county are state the fact they're able to borrow money below market rate effects the projects to be done that's something we should be aware of going into infrastructure one gentleman why he said it was a very experienced gentleman and

very educated he called the problems in china but he said most and said 90 percent the infrastructure projects are 10 percent over cost and always behind schedule so what this impacts the rates of return people will expect to achieve we had a nice presentation from cal steers to be in that area what you're talking about paying a high fee on committed capital with a group those are just warnings but thing we have to learn to expect and a lot of points covered positive experience being working in the gloernl experience for people experiencing incredible

successes in raufr who is twelfth but who is right one the things stated by one the consultant and by staff and in those areas of liability it liquidity to say very, very important whom we invest with who is our general partner some are good but others are not safe getting money in and out of our coffer a long way of saying that was very nicely done. >> thank you for representing us. >> commissioner meiberger i'm good. >> thank you very much public comment on item 19. >> all right. seeing none, public comment is closed at this time thank you very much this last item was a discussion item mr.

clerk what's next on this agenda. >> that's it. >> thank you very much this meeting is adjourned everyone. >> my name is jaeven alexander

an attorney for the san francisco city attorney's office i inspires the tax team give tax advise to the treasurer and drafting tax legislation the thing i remember any mother telling me as a child but need to be prepared to take care of you've i know you wanted to burger to do something i enjoyed i did not expect anyone to gym give me anything they didn't give her anything i saw her fighting for the things she wanted for home share my name is jason man flovrlz working alien agency an admin assistants at the city attorney's office i felt in the tasks i've been given on the

days i didn't show up and held my own for me, i think it is being more active and being more involved in a person to person interaction my grievous bodily harm jobs includes being a physician or nurse or pharmacy or firefighter and working with animal or the public on a personal level for improvements my sister is the biggest influence in any life because she to tell you the truth me to go forward what makes you happy rather than the most money. >> i graduated from law school in 1972 at this point when was was beginning to be an influx of women in the professional and tries case for diligent operated

programs government budgets and a life fiscal legislation came to the san francisco city attorney's office and been here for about 12 years advising think tax matters i does just about anything to think of lawyers do some things and some negligence letters don't do. >> i'm from the mission and grew up and also there my whole life living there you see others question. some of them oldest and some look like me my age and a lot of them work nanny and childcare jobs and retail jobs i don't know it is being kind of like a reminder that you're kind of lucky to be where you or i guess just the facts whether you

haven't gone so far at all i want them to go maybe go on an intrauf for challenging that is facing things they can't get that job you know kind of challenge and maybe surprise themselves when they get that job and feel better. >> they have been women practicing law for many years but it was so few of them that a lot of the issues hadn't really come into play and some of them were fairly worked out and resolves like equal pay in partnerships in law firms mac that women get fair assignments to be excluded and in the upper levels of government and law firms

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>> good afternoon and welcome everyone to the board of supervisors meeting of >> good afternoon and welcome everyone to the board of supervisors meeting of september 8, 2015. the first meeting of our fall legislative session. welcome back, members. mdm. clerk, please call the roll >> thank you madame president supervisor avalos present; pres. breed here;; compost present; christiansen present cohen, present farrell, present; kim-present some; mar not present tang present wiener-present emac-present you have a quorum >> thank you. ladies and gentlemen can you please join us in the pledge of allegiance. >>[pleage of allegiance]

>> thank you madam clerk are there any communications or >> yes mdm. pres. this medication is meant to inform the public that the board of supervisors has expanded its existing language access services program by authorizing the office of the clerk of the board to enter into an abortive partnership with the office of civic engagement and immigrant affairs. for an 11 month pilot program beginning september 1, 2015 and lasting through july 31, 2015. during that time, the staff will provide spanish and chinese interpretation services upon request and every regular and special board of supervisors meeting. they are here in the chamber today interpreting for spanish ms.

agnes lee, and interpreting for chinese is ms. agnes lee and interpreting for spanish is mr. norman bustillo and-give filipino tradition will be provided with a suggested 48-hour advance request as well as interpretation for committee meetings. will translate certain public notices crafted by the clerks and the-in addition which list the titles of legislation introduced at will call each week by the board of supervisors, the mayor, and the city departments. further, these translated notices and legislation introduced to be posted on the board of supervisors website. i wish to thank the director and her great staff in addition to the board staff who implement it a lot of good work in a very short period of target our deputy operations peggy nevins and rahal. our legislative deputy rick called eric, his assistant and let's say clerks and the evergreen of mr. darcy from the board division. thank you

resident breed >> thank you bit i like to add a special thank you to supervisor yee are bringing this legislation forward and make this happen. with that, colleagues are there any changes to the july 7, july 14, july 21, or the july 28 regular board meeting minutes, or the july 31 special meeting minutes? seeing none, is there a motion to approve moved and seconded. moved and seconded. colleagues can we take these approval of these minutes without objection? without objection these minutes will be approved after public comment. >>[gavel] >> madam clerk can you please read the consent agenda >> item 1, 123, these items are considered routine if a member objects and item may be removed and considered separately >> see no names on the roster,

madam clerk, can you please call the roll call >> item 1 through three-supervisor christiansen aye cohen aye farrell aye kim aye mar aye tang aye wiener aye yee aye opelousas aye breed aye compos aye there are 11 aye >> these items are finally passed and approved it unanimously. >>[gavel] >> madam clerk please call the next item >> item 4 is an ordinance to amend the link code to revise the fee schedules in the planning department determination. >> can we take this item same

housing call? without objection this ordinance is finally passed unanimously >>[gavel] >> can read item 5 and six together >> item 5 and six are two ordinances that men the planning code to allow the construction of accessory dwelling units also known as secondary or in law units within the boundaries of board of supervisors district 8 and district 3 to acquire the planning department to monitor the use of both districts as short-term rentals in correcting section references by amending the ministry of code affirming the planning to carmen determination making other appropriate financial tics can we take these items same housing call? without objection these ordinance are finally passed unanimously >>[gavel] >> next item, please >> item 7, and ordinance to plan the planning go to clarify that the inclusionary affordable housing program applies to housing projects to include group housing projects to change certain requirements for group housing projects to allow a zoning demonstrator special waiver from the exposure requirement in certain circumstances to allow affordable on-site units of housing projects to be exempt from calculation specifying

that the on-site units in group housing projects should be priced at 75% of the maximum purchase price for studio units if the bedrooms are less than three and 50 ft.2. to clarify the requirements for designated units in certain c-three districts under section 124 ivan at and to to [inaudible] other appropriate tides >> supervisor carlos >> a? president breed we have had two readings on this legislation. we have passed it but due to a clerical error we can have the real amendment before us. at the time. so, actually going to start first reading today with a new amendment i have today that i have to actually the intent that we have would be that we made in committee and probably get approved by the full board. so, these are here. even passed out to you. the clerk--mr. given up, give anything to add about the process >> >> on today's proposed amendment, to step back in from

existing code we accidentally deleted in committee. so this will just-the amendment proposed date will not be substantive at all. just clean up the ordinance >> then this will be a first reading and will pass out. next board meeting with our second reading? >> that's right. the one-week delay or even a hitch requires another meeting today, won't impact any projects in the real world because the ordinance is retroactive and applies to projects that got first construction document inmate >>'s rate. thank you >> supervisor avalos would like to make a motion >> a hold for this legislation to clarify that inclusionary program applies to >> supervisor autos has made a motion moved and seconded. can

we take the amendment without objection? without objection the moment passes >>[gavel] >> colleagues, for the item as amended, can we take this same housing call? without objection, this ordinance is passed unanimously on the first reading >>[gavel] >> these read item number eight >> item he is an ordinance to amend the public works go to acquire the contractor parking plan is a condition of approval of excavation permits for major work that is 30 consecutive calendar days or longer and specified temporary street space occupancy permits for construction work adopting fees for review and inspection later to contractor parking plans some folks and to affirm the planning department determination >> supervisor cohen >> welcome back. it's nice to see everyone back in bright eyed and ready to go. today on item number eight, a dyslexic moment to thank supervisor christiansen as well as supervisor farrell for working collaboratively on this piece of legislation as well as the

npa in dpw for working with our office to refine and develop the necessary application forms for contractors. last year you may recall, all three of us heard for many of our constituents were frustrated with confusing overburdened some bringing up spring up all around various construction sites in various neighbors. in some instances, entire blocks, entire blocks of parking reserved a 24 seven days a week even with construction work wasn't occurring. it's left the entire portion of the neighborhood off-limits to residents who need to park overnight. or individuals working to patronize a bird commercial corridors. most most of central san francisco north main that dismisses are starting to feel or continuing to feel the pinch. we on the to share this limited parking resources get so i am an enthusiastic supporter because i think the legislation strikes strikes the right balance

facilitating construction also requiring contractors to be a little bit more thoughtful in specific about what exactly the parking needs are going to be. so this legislation also increases transparency but neighbors. by requiring the development of a contractor parking plan for these larger projects, the neighbors can hold contractors accountable and can also do a better job -the better contractors can do a better job of planning for parking lot. so, colleagues, i would like to ask for your support on this legislation. read my colleague supervisor mark farrell also is wonderful, stu share >> thank you. supervisor farrell >> thank you. colleagues, thank you take you supervisor cohen for cosponsorship. construction is booming in our city and having a significant quality of life for all of our residents, i've heard complaints for years now from

residents every day frustrated by the amount of neighborhood parking spaces that are being taken away by construction parking permits. this is especially we can all relate to and parking remains vacant for days of time and are not used. with over 250 permits obtained per week and close to 13,000 issued on a yearly basis of the city, ideally we can be more proactive in leading our residents know that the impacts are going to be happening to them in their neighborhoods. given these frustrations at agree with supervisor comics and a cosponsor christiansen, wiener i want to thank supervisor kim as well. to introduce this construction parking plan legislation a few months ago. this plan will mandate a construction parking permit plan is a condition to receiving and any temporary street space occupancy permit for conceptual work that request more than one parking space over the course of three or more months. it also

mandates permit on street parking spaces that are not used or occupied 4 pm on any given day shall be go to her residence of the public for use. this plan will be made proactively available to members of the public in the available on dpw's website. the ordinance face many construction parking plan prerequisite to receiving his parking space permits for construction and zones. the components of the construction parking plan will include, among others, the number of parking spaces and the rationale, the average number of employees participated on site each day, the timeline and phasing of the project in requirement of an update from the contract at the midpoint of the construction project, whether it's feasible to use off-site parking such is parking garages, and a proposal for how the contractor is going to be implement the 4 pm parking plan. in committee we also added additional zoning districts to mitigate the impact felt in neighborhood commercial districts for residents and small business and lastly include fees to ensure this legislation we properly enforced art in our neighborhoods. i do believe this is simple and straightforward and will alleviate a significant quality-of-life issue that exists are neighborhoods to i

ask for your support. >> thank you supervisor farrell collies can we take this item same housing call? without objection, the ordinance passes unanimously on the first reading >>[gavel] >> madam clerk read the next item please >> item 9 ordinance to amend the planning code to allow access or use of entertainment with limited live performance permits in the west and south of market mixed use general and regional commercial district. and to affirm the planet apartments determination and make the appropriate findings >>'s supervisor kim >> thank you. is legislation would expand a limited live permit usage into the neighborhood commercial corridor work of the rest of the city. as colleagues may remember, we delayed the implementation of limited live permits in the western south plan is the plan came forward that this program did. many of the members of the task force

had asked us to delay implementation until we see how this played out in other neighborhoods. the limited live permit program has been fairly successful throughout the city with very very few neighborhood and resident complaints, and so given the large number of entertaining use was already in the south of market were some concerns about allowing for more limited live permits. being that has been successful in allowing small-scale djs, songwriters, open mics brought the city, the neighborhood is comfortable with expanding this now into the western summit plan so colleagues i ask for your support and one recognize and thank the entertainment commission many of our smoke businesses for the work and participation in this process. thank you. >> thank you supervisor kim. colleagues can we take this item same housing call? without objection this ordinance passes unanimously on

first reading >>[gavel] >> madam clerk, please call item number 10 >> item 10, ordinance to amend the mystery of code to require the sheriff and police department to gather and regularly report data regarding detentions and traffic stops. >> colleagues predict this item same housing call? without objection this ordinance passes unanimously on first reading >>[gavel] >> item number 11 >> item 11 is in the ministry of code to increase the amount of the assessor recorders cash revolving fund from 300-2 from 300-26 and $50 >> same housing copy it without objection this is passed unanimously on first reading >>[gavel] >> item 12 >> and 12 is a motion to appoint-children youth and family oversight committee terms to be determined and residency required >> same housing call without objection this motion is approved unanimously >>[gavel] >> supervisor comics >> excuse maybe i like to motion to rescind the boat for item number 10. then easily

discuss >> supervisor, stu made a motion to rescind a vote on item 10 second bite supervisor christiansen. can take take this without objection without objection the vote for items and has been rescinded >>[gavel] >> madam clerk, since you called item number 10 already i will recognize supervisor comics at this time >> thank you very much. my apologies. i today have come for couple days him and asked for your support when the transparent pleasing ordinance which is ordinance will be beneficial to all of san franciscans but especially to those in the minority community as well as those both the sheriffs department as well as the police department. just briefly to orient you, the ordinance is reflective of the moment we've seen across the entire country over the last year. it reflects recommendations from pres. obama's 21st century policing task force, which produced a report with a number of

improvements that cities should make to improve police relations with the community. this ordinance would require the sheriff as well as the police department to collect data on race, gender, and to be collected during traffic stops and anytime either department either the government or sheriffs department, detains, stops, for questioning or searches in individual. this ordinance requires each department not only to collect this information but also to analyze and report it on a quarterly basis back to the board of supervisors and the mayor's office as well as the human rights commission. also to the police commission. the three areas of concern that this ordinance is focused on are the prevention of pretextual stops based on race and pretextual stops based on gender related characteristics,

and also, the use of force where it is unwarranted. over the last year, we have all seen a number of horrific events where police officers have either killed or seriously injured young thusly african-american or other minority men and right here in san francisco, african-american men arrested at a rate more than two times many caucasian residents. studies have also shown transgender people across the us experience unprecedented levels of police violence at higher rates than on transgender individuals. so, it was a study that was released in 2015 by the national coalition of antiviolence programs that show that transgendered women experience police brutality and rate of five point times greater than non-transgender individuals. for trans-women of color, the numbers 6.2 times higher. colleagues, in the past the ordinance the goal that we have

outlined our that were trying to achieve is to reduce unintentional disproportion numbers of detentions, arrests and targeting minorities of the transgender community. also, we like to introduce an additional level of transparency and oversight onto the police department as well as the sheriffs department as we begin to rebuild the trust that the community has had-that the community has lost, and our law-enforcement department by making this information available to the public for review and by requiring quarterly reports to the mayor's office, and to this body, as well as to the please commission and human rights commission collies, you should have received from the clerk, the latest version of the ordinance with a couple of commitments i made to clarify the legislation in response to community concern. in working with the advocacy groups and the transgender community they felt that requiring officers to

request an individual's gender identity during an encounter would place transgendered individuals and increase risk for discrimination and a restaurant or worse violence. so there are several moments of going to read him into the record. the first was has to do with an incremental implementation period. on page 3, line 16, we changed the collection of data to be based on individual's actual race and not perception or observation. i want to thank supervisor avalos supervisor tang to this matter in committee over a month ago. the second amendment is on page 7, line 4,. it changed the reporting for transgender community to reflecting complaints filed with the office of the this and complaints, based on bias policing from the cells self identified transgender individuals. the third amendment

, and it's one additional last-minute amendment on making is on page 3. line 19. i would like to strike the phrase that says, "the officer as a lawful reason to identify such passengers". it should read "if the officer has a reasonable suspicion to detain such passengers". the final amendment can be found on page 5, line 1. june 30, 2016 and then online two, should read, june 2017 to be in line with the end of the fiscal year. so some cleanup language. >> you're proposing the specific commitments to be passed today >> that is correct >> is that emotion >> no, not yet i'm not done. thank you matter present. i'm almost done though. i also there's also recognition that came in from the public defender's office to include investigative contacts and the root reporting was appreciated

nationally working closely with the pd on the public defenders office on passing this ordinance have not accepted this legislation. it goes beyond the focus of the ordinance and really beyond the scope of what this 21st-century policing report recommends. so this ordinance is focused on stops and detentions. there are a long list of folks i like to think. i'm proud to work with a wide range of community and serving that he advocates on this particular ordinance by to think very quickly, the officers for justice, the transgender law center, community against-can i community united against violence the human rights commission, office of citizens complaints, youth commission, and of course the sheriffs and police department. both sermons have been instrumental as has the public defenders office. colleagues come i hope to have this moved forward >> thank you. is there a motion to move these moments for >> yes. there is a motion

>> seconded by supervisor kim. can we take these mms? >> one more thing. i want to recognize my cosponsor pres. breed and supervisor kim i'm sorry. supervisor you rick and kim >> thank you. colleagues, can we take these amendments without objection, without objection the minutes pass orcs >> supervisor kim >> as lungs were talking about amendments i do have a question about it's not necessarily something i want to include in the ordinance today, but i did notice public defenders office and suggested we include reporting on in investigative contacts as well. i was curious about that conversation and why was ultimately not included in the legislation? >> just a little bit of scope of what i'm trying to do. the basis of my legislation is based on the 21st century report

that pres. obama put out. this did not include investigative points. >> i was curious in the hearing if it came up this was an issue where there was disparities that were perceived in communities around [inaudible] by the police around investigative contacts >> no, not at all >> i do want to say that i support this legislation and recognize to provide supervisor cohen for leadership on this bit i think it's incredibly important and regularly report data so this transparency with the public around how our police and sheriffs department have contact with members of the public, particularly among round detention and traffic stops that i look forward to the reports coming forward in may of next year. i hope that they are illuminative but also that we can learn from that as we improve our relationships and building trust with members of the public. so thank you for that >> thank you. supervisor compos

>> thank you. i want to thank supervisor cohen for this item like to be added on as a cosponsor. i'm very supportive of it what were trying to do with this item. i think we need to have data to more transparency, but i do want to say that putting what's happening around law enforcement in context, i think this is a step in the right direction good a lot more needs to be done, not only with the police department but also the sheriffs aren't. one of the things that were still waiting to figure out how were going to do this, is the implementation of the body camera program. i think that the fact that, it's been a while since it was first announced and we still have not seen full implementation. i think that is a concern. the other thing i would say, i think that it's more about the data we need. i think there's actually a need for conference of reform of our law

enforcement agencies,, including reform around training, hiring and quite frankly, the disciplinary proceedings as well. we have a situation where some of the individuals that were involved in the text messaging scandals depending on what happens with the court, those cases may end up being thrown out of the court system. i think that's a pretty horrible thing to happen not only in terms of those cases, but also the kind of message it sends. the reality is, that what is happening in places like ferguson, while it is not to the same degree of problem in san francisco, still a problem in san francisco. i don't believe that we as a city collectively are doing enough to address that that reform that is needed and i think that because of that inability to

fully tackle this issue, we have a situation where many communities, especially communities of color there's a lack of trust. a law enforcement. not just of the police department but also the sheriffs department. so, i think that it's an important step in the right direction, but this is a very small step in a larger context of what needs to be done to reform law enforcement agencies. if we cannot do that the right way in san francisco, where else in this country cannot happen? >> thank you. supervisor mar >> thank you. i want to thank supervisor cohen in supervisor avalos and the other cosponsors. i think as we heard the issue within the public safety committee that supervisor on post and christiansen say on with me, i'm in total agreement with supervisor compos, it's a systemic issue that black and whites matter different social movements have brought up recently but also

historically, james hallam hayward burns institute have identified a key disparity, racial disparity,. i think they recently alerted us that african-american adults are seven times more likely as white adults to be arrested in san francisco from the public defenders racial justice committee were a lot of great suggestions came out of the 10 point program, that we need to go even further but i think this is a good first step as we try to look at the police department and the sheriffs department as well. i also want to acknowledge years and decades of the aclu of northern california. the ac ou-campaign to raise awareness of the inherent bias in a lot of other areas as well. lastly, i want to say that i think it's good that you're raising the issue of transgender people and gender in traffic stops and

various stops as well because i think it is beyond races is important but also gender and other factors as well in culture , but thanks so much to supervisor cohen but all the others that worked on this. i supervisor compos mentioned, there's a much more to be done as a problem is extremely systemic and we have to address it on that basis as well. thank you. >> thank you. seeing none, names on the roster, colleagues, can we take them as item same house single as amended? see no objection, this item this ordinance is passed unanimously as amended on first reading orcs >> okay. mdm. clerk 02 committee reports >> mdm. pres. adam 13 and 14 were considered by the government audit and oversight committee and regular meeting on thursday, september 3 at

10:30 am. were forwarded as committee reports both items were recommended as amended with the same title. matt called both items together >> yes, please item 13 and 14 >> i am 13 and 14 are two resolutions sponsored the presiding judge of this. court on the findings and recommendations contained in the 2014-2015 civil grand jury reports on the office of the assessor report appeared in the san francisco whistleblower's protection ordinance. to further urge the mayor to cause the implementation of except the findings and recommendations through his department heads and/or through the development of the annual budget. >> of it. see no names on the roster colleagues, can we take these items same house and call? without objection these resolutions are adopted unanimously. orcs >> mdm. clerk, for now available to will call for introductions and then will come back to the commendation >> thank you. supervisor cohen we're going to start with you today.

>> i submit >> supervisor farrell. supervisor came >> thank you. i'm actually [inaudible] legislation for it ordinance i passed unanimously last ferry the fair chance that cosponsored by supervisor maria : let's get with the hard work and diverse set of stakeholders from the-housing community and our business community, we were able to craft the most progressive reform in the state and we are again leading the country in a work to remove unnecessary barriers and create real employment and housing opportunities for one in four adults in the us who have an arrest or conviction history. their chance has now been affect since 2014 in august and we received recommendations from several city departments including the office of labor standards enforcement, the

agency charged with enforcing the legislation regarding a need to ensure that the city and county of san francisco removes arbitrate robots for full participation in city government. to that end i'm introducing an amendment to the fair chance act illuminate the requirement that applicants for membership on boards and commissions here at the city disclose all felony convictions. limit the city from using criminal history information making decisions about appointments and removal of members certain boards, commissions and other bodies. and require the city to follow fair chance when inquiring about or using history of information to make decisions about appointments and removals. with these amendments, the fair chance act ensures the decision makers consulting all the relevant information they need to make fully informed decisions. while the same time ensure that individuals with conviction histories were seeking to fully reintegrate and engage in civic life a real chance to put their qualifications for first. with

the band the box reform we can reduce racial disparities in the criminal justice system, improve the community well-being and reduce the cost of criminal in saving taxpayers dollars. these policies embodied in their chance to open the doors of opportunity for all this including opportunities for viewership and civic-which will help make our city safer view with that i'll be asking for your support of this legislation was through the prosecutor the rest i submit >> thank you supervisor kempner supervisor mar >> colleagues, i want to invite you to an important town hall this coming thursday evening, september 10 from 6-730 in the richmond district at marla bakery on balboa and 36th ave. my office is working with the san francisco chamber of commerce to really help support our small businesses in the vitality of our merchant core doors. event brings together small business leaders

together with my office and other city officials to discuss our local small business concerns. the neighborhood business summit is an axon opportunity to meet elected officials and the city department and the chamber of commerce as well and to network with other merchants in the district. also strengthen the vitality of our merchant core doors corridor contact might aid nick-aand alex-from the chamber of commerce. also, one of our stellar vital anchor organizations in the richmond district is a richmond district neighborhood center. i just want to knowledge from news i've heard from the board chairman jonathan alliant, who has been a german or civil rights advocate inner-city, he's announced that the new director he's announced that the new director neighborhood ctr., michelle cassano's red leather beacon center free is good i think the really great depth forward for the richmond district neighborhood center.

please join us also on thursday evening from six-9 pm on that other balboa area and promenade café former [inaudible] café on balboa and 37th ave. [inaudible] café on balboa and 37th ave. the evening is going to celebrate wine on the left side and were going to be raising funds for the food security network that i have to start up with the richmond district neighborhood center and a richmond senior sense. it's an important partnership the links up the people to deliver groceries and meals to isolated seniors in our neighborhood and the program is connecting neighborhood volunteers with mobility and seniors for friendship and weekly delivery and putting in place our neighborhood for more information please contact sara cox who's been able to service as director are the arty and seek at 751-6600, or visit their putting in place our neighborhood for more information please contact sara cox who's been able to service as director are the arty and seek at 751-6600, or visit their website@ourdnc.org. the rest also met >> thank you. supervisor winner >> welcome back from will would be says. i look forward to

a terrific rest of the year and just in the needs of our city. today i'm introducing legislation to trigger over the course of the next year a subway master plan for san francisco. while we have a lot of terrific transportation fanning going on in our city and region, to the rework of the mta and the transportation authority, a planning department and so forth, we really need to have a sharp focus on the future of underground transit in san francisco. our city is growing by lease and balance by about 10,000 people a year. the city is more crowded than ever and we see nowhere more than on our streets where we have congestion that seems to get worse and worse. impact every mode of transportation and particular transit system. our municipal is on average the slowest transit major transit

system in the country. all at over 8 miles an hour and her buses and light rail vehicles are being caught in the same topic that everyone else is been caught in get it impacts our economy, our quality of life and we need to make our transit system more efficient. so, in addition to doing what we can to improve the efficiency and accessibility of our bus system and aboveground light rail lines, we need to be planning aggressively for the coming years and decades to have more subway lines in san francisco. right now, the last subway line we open in san francisco was 35 years ago. when i was 10 years old. when the market street subway line was open, which covered the small portion of the city at around eight same time, bart opened up its market street line south to delhi city. so, these two subway lines have been incredibly well used, but they're not expensive enough. there's no subway service in the northern part of the city and western san francisco in the southeastern part of the

city. it is not acceptable that it takes longer to get downtown from the sunset were from the bayview than from the-we need to address that. we know the central subway is on track to be done in a few years will immediately be the highest ridership line of any of the light rail vehicle lines. we need to make sure that the central subway is extended north to north beach and fisherman's wharf. we need to look at the jays to extend subway to other parts of the city, particularly, the west side of town in southeastern san francisco. need to make sure that the downtown extension is built in the second translate to. their summary things we can do to dramatically improve transit access in san francisco and transit reliability. so, the legislation asks for a subway master plan over the course of the next year with thierry article updates thereafter. subways are expensive, they are time-consuming and challenging many ways. but it would be much

far greater cost not to be building subways in san francisco in terms of the ability of our city to get around. so, i look forward to the conversation on this important topic. the rest i submit >> and? supervisor yee. supervisor avalos >> thank you. colleagues, the three items for introduction. first, an introduction for the ordinance to create the jewish home special youth this circuit which allows the expansion of the residential care facility. the jewish home has been serving the greater bay area for over 100 years. it's a facility on the corner mission and civil advocate of residential characters of the most lease for senior citizens and they have been doing really great work. medical care that's provided there as well. but under the-years the way they've

been doing business and taking care of people, it's a real change in how they can actually be sustainable in the year to come. et al. plan about rearranging the facility and their care model to make sure they can really meet the needs that are going to be coming forward in the financial needs of how organizations like this get funded in the years to come. the plan, they've done with over many many years they put together a plan. they've had a lot of work with community groups. just last week, they were with the planning commission was given him unanimous vote of approval for different projects. part of that is creating a special-which am happy to cosponsor. i'm really excited as well that, in terms of their work with the community groups and excelsior, looking at traffic issues, landscaping of public space along the part of the corridor has been difficult to make presentable. that's a big part of that in future years to come. so i want to thank them for their new plan

and hope to have your support colleagues when this comes before us later this year. i am also submitting a resolution that would reaffirm a prior development area in the southern part of san francisco along the mission and geneva court order. pda our designation designated areas of our area the bay area in this case san francisco that would allow us to receive funding from different sources, including the one bay area grants that support transit and also housing developments. there's an oversight that this moment area was not included or was not actually formally created, and this will enable the planning department to submit an application for this pda to be done and obedient area of san francisco that is ripe for development for denser

housing, for transit oriented development, and the sky's the limit about what we can do with this area. especially around the balboa park organization. there are areas that could be developed for affordable housing and really meet our transit needs in this part of san francisco and the bay area. lastly i have a hearing request that i want to thank supervisor cohen for cosponsorship. the hearing request is on an update from the san francisco retirement board so their efforts around divestment from fossil fuel corporations. if you call, colleagues, back in april 2013, we passed unanimously a resolution urging the retiring board to divest from fossil fuel corporations and that request really came at an understanding that already the corporations that have fossil fuel sites in their portfolios,

coal come up that's in the ground, oil that's in the down crude oil that's in the ground, that stockpiles of fossil fuel that's enough to actually hurt gb earth's temperature well beyond the building to old life. if we burn all that fuel so makes a lot of sense we do not burn all the fossil fuels that are in the capacity first to build. instead, think of and alternatives to burning. looking at nonfossil fuel type of generation of power resource. so, we pass that unanimously but up to this time, the retiring board had been an staff have been very slow moving forward on the program that we authorized them to do. they've been almost working obstructive lesion helping to move this program forward and i want to make sure that we can actually do what we have intended further retiring

board in his hearing and will get update from staff about what they're doing. the rest i will submit >> thank you. supervisor compass will return to after the president calls for the 2:30 pm the nation >> mdm. pres. >> thank you. today colleagues i have a very special commendation for an organization that has done tremendous work here in the city and county of san francisco. at this time i would like to ask dr. joel marshall to come up. and accept this commendation on behalf of our full board for the alive and free program. more specifically, on behalf of the board of supervisors, i want to acknowledge the alive and free omega boys club on the occasion of graduating over 200 young people. 200 young people from college. this milestone is a

realization of their mission to cultivate youth-to work with young people and cultivate a path toward a positive future for young people in our communities, and, in 1987, after experiencing a loss of so many young people throughout the city to the prison system, to drugs, two games, to death, sadly, dr. marshall and jack got together and cofounder was initially called the omega boys club, as a way to keep young people unharmed by violence and free from incarceration. the youth development and violence prevention program that day together as a part of omega boys club is now called alive and free and is gained national, and international, acclaimed for its pioneering work with young people and i can attest to the great work of

alive and free from personal experience is the former director of the african-american art and culture complex. when we experience significant challenges with our young people over time in the district it was dr. marshall who stepped up with his team to consistently work with our young people, and we definitely save some lives of their. alive and free program defines violence as a social disease that transmits to the limited instruction bad behavior and by identifying and addressing the systematic thinking that puts young people at risk in the first place, the alive and free program champions in belief that, with positive lifestyle choices, that will offset the disease of violence in our community, and hopefully, change lives. alive and free tries to change belief values

and attitudes that promote youth violence in the first place through a process that is designed to help young people succeed in life, attend college, and get back to their communities. through its outreach programs alive and free has challenged the cycle violence and property that threatens our young people. it's syndicated weekly broadcast, street soldiers, which recently celebrated its 20th anniversary on-is a solution solution driven oriented call-in show that focuses on issues affecting young people today, including issues around drugs, teen pregnancy bullying, cyber bullying, dropout rates, etc. the school adoption program assist schools in transforming their costumes into proactive positive learning environments, and since 2000 the alive and free staff have trained over 1000 teachers and staff at over 17 schools, which supports more than 15,000 students. the alive

and free academy serves over 200 young people, ages 14-24, every single year. offering a safe learning environment to develop math, literacy, and life skills as well as college preparation, scholarships, and mentoring. this project has helped over 200 young people complete undergraduate degrees, and 60 of whom have received or are currently working on their graduate degrees. it is truly an amazing accomplishment, and i was there with dr. marshall on august 2 when many of those graduates attended the event to celebrate this milestone. just some people that came from all over, folks doing really well, and i think what was truly clear about the young folks that dr. marshall comeau which are now some of them are older than i am, but he's helped over the years, is that all of them

talked about how their story, their challenges the obstacles they overcame, but most important how they want to make sure that they are doing everything they can to continue to give back to their community to provide the next young person the same opportunity that dr. marshall has provided him. i think that's a testament to his work in the community and how he has worked to really transform some lives. while the organization is headquartered in san francisco, alive and free has expanded its presence in the bay area across the nation, and the globe to the alive and free national consortium, which is dedicated for using and promoting the same violence prevention model developed by dr. marshall and jack with the omega boys club over 20 years ago. every young person, within his or her health, as

the full potential of greatness alive and free has provided a blueprint for overcoming the obstacles many young people face in at-risk communities. they have this established a roadmap for change and opportunity for which young people can reach enormous heights. it is clear that every single day you are touching his more lives dr. marshall, and on behalf of the city and county of san francisco, on behalf of the board of supervisors, we can menu and we celebrate you. this terminus milestone of 200 lives, 200 college graduates. thank you for your commitment and work to san francisco. this is truly amazing. >>[applause] >> welcome those way more than i expected. you know, first of all thank you resident breed. thank you. thank you. thank

you. they say good news is no news so good news is doesn't seem to make the papers. it doesn't make the certainly the 11 pm news especially with a population that i work with. so, to be able to receive this from you and the board is great. i can't say enough about it except it on behalf of all those young people let's be honest i'm just trying to churn out more london reads then-to do that i got them past the hurdles of that they face every day. i know both of you and you're very aware of and it's been great. my grandmother told me when i was six-year-old more you know the more you owe. those in the words i've lived by since then hasn't grown in life, i've come to understand that someone pays the way for me so i've been very happy to do that all of these years. i

personally want to thank you for peeking at our event that day. i know it took away a little bit of your sunday and it's a sacred day, but thank you. am i think supervisor kwon good she spoke before supervisor wiener was there also. thank you remus. it's great. we discovered keep on going. these young people you don't have to worry about. everybody knows things about-really that's my civic job. my civic duty. to do something that the police don't have to worry about. so were going to begin our next campaign, this year could mean our new campaign tonight at the club that we want to continue to save as many lives as we can adjust thank you. thank you. thank you on behalf of young people, think my grandmother did she conjured this up and i'm just carrying

out her dream and everybody stay alive and free. think not >> thank you dr. marshall. >>[applause] >>thank you very much colleagues. now clerk, we'll return to our regular business and go back to will call for

introductions and madam clerk >> supervisor campos >> thank you. again congratulations to commissioner marshall and-for the incredible work he does. have a couple of items. first, simply one note that something very disturbing happen in my district over the weekend. we became aware yesterday of graffiti that was plastered in different parts of the puerto district that essentially, hate speech targeted against the chinese american community in that neighborhood. i want to say that , as a supervisor for this district, but is very disturbing, upsetting that something like this would happen in this day and age in same cisco. though, i also think

of something negative something positive can come out. i'm grateful that this community has rallied, has come together to condemn this hateful speech and to send a very clear message that the kind of speech that targets anyone community in our city is simply not tolerated. there is a rally at the community is putting together for this thursday at 6 pm, and i think that that rally in the community coming together is more reflective of what the portal is about with san francisco is about. the second item that i have is the hearing request on the very important issue of what's happening with short-term rentals here in san francisco. today i'm calling for a hearing on a couple of

items. first, how are san francisco treasurer's office, and how our new office of short-term rentals are handling tax collection, as well as the enforcement of a law that went into effect a few months back. it has been now more than eight months since what we believe, what i believe and many believe is a flawed law was implemented , actually, failed to be properly implemented. in the last few months, we have seen only 600 people have registered with the city. this is out of more than 8000 short-term listings that the city has more than 5000 of those listings come from one company alone. throughout this whole time this company, after paying their taxes three years late has been asserting it has paid it back

taxes and that it supposedly permits $1 million a month to san francisco in taxes. yet, as far as i know, no one has independently verify that information. at the same time, as the independent budget legislative analyst has found, this one company alone is facilitating a loss of at least 1000 units of housing in san francisco. up to 23% of units that could be rented are being b&b. according to our chief economist, even one unit of housing to a short-term rental cost the city more than $250,000 and illuminates any positive economic impact the tourist rental. yet, we are talking about as much as 1000 units been lost. one company alone. given this context, i would like to pressures treasurer's

office to clarify how much b&b and other platforms have paid back in current taxes and i'd also like to understand the treasurer's policies comes to collecting taxes for what is essentially, illegal activity. moreover, how does the treasurer's office deal with companies such as the rpo which not really collect taxes on behalf of their. the second point is that i want to understand how the newly formed office of short-term rental administration and were sent, which has presented by the mayor and others as the panacea, or the agency that was needed to make things better, how is that actually doing. what exactly is that agency doing to enforce the law? without data from the hosting platform, so without fines for those platforms that this illegal listings how does this

agency actually plan to go after the thousands of unregistered units in the city? what is this agency's enforcement plan? i also want to know how the treasurer's office, and the office of short-term rental working together. we know that the treasurer is a partner in any kind of enforcement at the city has, but we also know there are limitations in terms of what information the treasurer can share because of the confidentiality of some of the tax information that they have. when the treasurer collects taxes from unregistered host, who by virtue of being unregistered are engaging in illegal activity, what is the protocol. is that information shared by the treasurer with the office of short-term rentals? or is it not fax if not, this means that one of the cities collecting taxes of hosts they know are not in

compliance with city law while the other arm of the city is blindly trying to do enforcement without data. to me cooperation between two city agencies is critical,, and if there is no cooperation would be problematic to fully understand how it is enforcement would happen. there is an urgent need for transparent when it comes to short-term rentals. our housing crisis continues to ravage our middle and low income residents, and we have seen that short-term rentals are indeed impacting the availability of housing for san franciscans. we need strong enforcement and we need it now. the last item is actually three in memoriam that i am doing in honor of three remarkable women who simply have left us too soon. i wouldn't have done this

earlier, but due to our break, we cannot acknowledge the contributions of these women. the first one is ivana giovanna luna. giovanna was a wonderful and inspiring woman. a leader with ella-a leadership and service organization for transgender latinas in the mission. she devoted her life to providing services to trans-latina urgent women in san francisco. at the outreach coordinator for this program she was committed to uplifting the transit latina community. her friends, family and colleagues describe her as a playful person who is extremely apathetic and want to hope others in the community. ivana was admired in the transgender community and beyond and shall be greatly missed. just a little bit about giovanna. she

was born in mexico on may 5, 1976 moved to the bay area in the early 2000. she died much too soon at the age of 39. if you like to make a contribution there is a memorial fund for giovanna. it's that-it's under the name giovanna's memorial fund. there's also a fundraiser event for her that ella is putting together at 9 pm tomorrow at 29 at 2940 16th st. the second in memoriam is for the incredible vassallo anaya. rosario anaya has not been up beater in the mission community but all san francisco for decades. she was an advocate for so many people and her death is simply a tremendous

loss matches for the mission, but for all san francisco. i want to thank supervisor yee for cosponsoring that in the morning. she was a trailblazer in every sense of the word. born on october 7, 1944, in bolivia she moved with her family to open when she was 17. she later graduated from san francisco university with a bachelor's degree in public administration and masters in counseling and psychology. within a few years of graduation she had established herself as a leader for advocacy for the underserved latino populations and others. the sorrows of life work has been, the last decades the vocational school, and lbs, an organization that is up to thousands of immigrants of all backgrounds gain the skills needed to succeed in this country. becoming the and lbs

before turning 30, she spent the next reach of years beating this nonprofit organization. originally a program offering mostly english instruction for latinos, rosario expanded the program to become a broader vocational school for all immigrants adding classes for medical, clerical, computer,: eric business and pharmacy skills. as a result of that work, the program currently graduates about 300 students a year. you can imagine the thousands of students that have benefited from this in the last few decades. in 1970, rosario earned a unique distinction of being the first latin american women elected to public office in san francisco's history. she served on the board of education for 12 years and was president of the board of education for eight of those years. on top of everything she did for san francisco, rosario is one of the sweetest nicest

people you could meet. she was kind and compassionate, our thoughts and prayers are with her her family, and her friends and we especially want to give our condolences to the incredible staff that and lbs thank you was audio, for everything you did for our community. we will always remember you could we will honor the memory, your memory, by continuing to support the work of and lbs. the final item is and in memoriam to honor the life of a very special person rosemary lambert, who passed away rosemary lambert, who passed away in august 22 at the age of 59. rosemary is the mother of cory lambert, whose the ardor of ice and former member of the board of supervisor. rosemary lambert died after brave to half-year

struggle with als. not long after diagnosis, cory convinced her to start a blog. live simple. love like crazy. that blog allowed her to speak to thousands thousands of people, about living with als. she spoke of her family and talk about her life story and advocacy, including the importance of lgbt inclusion in area other important topics. thousands read her blog including hundreds of people here in san francisco. in addition to her husband of 36 years rosemary is survived by her children. chad-of texas kelly of muskegon cory member of san francisco and brian lambert of-three in children,: in harrison, contributions be made to the rosemary lambert memorial fund care of the community foundation. thank

you. the risk estimate >> thank you supervisor campos. seeing no other names on the roster that includes the introduction >> thank you. mdm. clerk please read public comments. >> at this time the public may direct the address the entire board of supervisors for up to 2 min. on items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the board. to include the minutes items on the adoption without reference to committee calendar item 17-22. public comment is not allowed on items which of artie been subject to public comment at a board committee. as is the case with items one through 14. pursuant to the boards will please direct your remarks to the board as a whole not to individual supervisors want to the audit. speakers using interpretation assistance will be like twice the amount of time to testify. if you'd like to display a document on the overhead projector please state such to sfgtv and rude the document in the screen to return to live coverage of the main.

>> thank you next week's >> next works for speaker, please. >> hello. my name is paula brown. i like to use the word. which is outside of a while go a couple other mothers concerning our children and homicides. i'm here again concerning my son and other family members of unsolved homicides. my son was killed 26 to a semi automatic gun. to this day, his case is not solve. i'm still seeking justice. everyone knows, the mayor knows, the former mayor knows who killed my child. these are all the names that my homicide inspector gave me, of all the

men that shot my child. thomas annable, harris martha and you love you, jason thomas, anthony hunter, and maurice carter. these people are still walking the streets to murder again. harris martha is getting out next year, august, the month he killed my son. all i have left is my sons dead body laying here. this is what i have to remember of my son. let alone, all the other unsolved homicides. all of these unsolved homicides. just think of the mothers if they were sitting here in my shoes. you do not want to stand in my shoes. i been doing this for nine years. nine years and

still no justice for my child. let alone these other unsolved homicides. this is what i have left. and mayor gavin new-said he said i know who killed her son. >> thank you, ms. brown. next speaker, please. >> members of the board of supervisors, san francisco opened oven. i like to chart on the overhead to be projected. what i'd like everybody to notice,, if you're in the numbers that 24. this is 24 orders of determination finding various representatives of city government in violation of the

local open government laws. as you can see the bottom of the list now your board president has joined the ranks supervisor mar which kind of surprised me, and pride of place goes to supervisor farrell. i have to wonder, what is it about open government laws you don't understand? because these violations are not only violations of the sunshine ordinance but there also violations of either the california public records act, or the brown act. 24 times i had to go back to the task force and that's a success rate of 81%. i would like to know what it is you think your office entitles you to to ignore the law. that's what each of these is. a case where legally

constituted body has ruled that you have violated the law. supervisor breed dunedin bother to send anyone to the hearing even though i came over for this board three times during public comments mention the fact that in idea i was sitting in her office and that the arrogance to show up and say, it got lost in the spam folder. what a bunch of course party. you people don't respect the right of this is tons of the city to open government and you don't respect the rights of state law, especially as they regard to constitution of the state of california and the constitution of the united states. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> you want something to be on the overhead? yes, you set it

down and ask for the overhead projector. >> thank you. my name is >> sir, can you speak into the microphone. next you. >> my name is joseph cohen and him the chairman to build pocket are vision is to build a new city park. for this generation all future generations to endure. we will stand for our citizens and visitors rights to this part will strongly encourage those with the authority they have to join us in this work worthwhile goal. on worthwhile goal. on november 18, 2014, the majority of the board of supervisors approved a conditional use to develop 1/15 the backfill without environmental review. your vote the terminal impact on present and future generations. your group project skews our finest views of the financial district chinatown nob hill in north beach. we ask you to resend your approval or

declare eminent domain of purchase the property and assess market value could imagine, the panoramic park meandering gardens, pathways, showing up homes and evergreens in our cities beautiful flower the lauria. while this view from a cantilevered terrace park benches for locals and tourists to sit after long walk up filbert steps. financing would come from the elevator fees of clay tower. in a redistribution of funds by city parks and recreation. you will be hearing at superior court on november 19 at 1:30 pm. plaintiff's last for proper environmental review at 115 plaintiff's last for proper environmental review at 115 telegraph hill blvd. pres. breed and supervisor fees visit 115 telegraph hill blvd. and see the happy visitors in all of our skyline and glad that they came. the committee to

build great panoramic park will review these are corrected >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. should stick good afternoon supervisor. >> good afternoon supervisor my name is johnny phase. for quite some time but voice my concerns about the safety of -using the elevator at sri. in my summation, should've been replaced years ago. quite civilly, was out of touch and out of time. management dear to leave well enough which is resulted in a senseless tragedy. one that was entirely avoidable. one that was entirely avoidable. on august 20 blind tenant enter the elevator at the harlan azzarello and plunged 2 stories to his death. on august 42nd, easter stephen newsome was covered in a blanket of roses just like pete steinem. i say

it's high time to change the cars. i'm calling on mayor evelyn lee to authorize [inaudible] to replace tenderloin housing. seniors, the handicap and the safety of occupants are in peril. i asked township perhaps it's time for you to step down forget about moving over. it's time to vacate your post and seek more suitable employment. quite simply, you failed to execute or duties and have failed to get the job done. with the aforementioned elevator tragedy styling that product sales and never-ending crime-ridden district 6 is in a state of disarray. well beyond district 5, seven, and 10 combined. narcotic traffic crime in district 6 would rival the crime rate in the honduras and

venezuela. thank you much >> thank you. next speaker, please >> been present or minor speakers to give their comments to the full board of supervisors, not to individual supervisors. >> thank you madam clerk. next speaker, please. >> thank you. present president breed and other members of the cabal my name is christopher-of it six in our time blocks i rise to comment on sf conduct of. mr.-lessons are beloved entirely ignored my request for clarification of his position under charter section 2.100. there are multiple publish assertions of mr. ivan's failure to confine securities to city business. these are multiple instances of his failure to comply with its additional restraints on his activities, but you are uninformed. mr.-organizing continues to participate in if

a loan is conspiracy to aid state laws prohibiting private usage of public transit areas of the ongoing google bus that public space. this activity was broadly and publicly reported and you are on interested could mr. lee openly participates in a felonious conspiracy to avoid state and local laws regarding the ongoing unlicensed drug sale of alcohol beverages, food and lodging to the public in the collection of taxes generated by such activities and you are unavailable. members, if you don't have the wisdom to hold mr. lee accountable to any standard, you don't have the courage to put the hard questions to him, the public does, you should submit a charter commitment to the voters which would require the mayor take public comment once a month in his chambers for an hour. this way, at least 20 good citizens of our beloved city and county of san francisco would be with the get

his designers of full attention for 2 min. about having to pay cash for it. today i forwarded possible language for such to the clerk's office. thank you pres. breed >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> supervisors, may i bring it to your attention, that this is the united states of america. when you representatives take the oath to represent you better represent. now the media has been pointing out about paid to play. pay to play. we have empirical data, empirical data is data that can be verified, about a few of you

who are participating in that type of corruption. this must stop. this is the land of the-i represent the-and their many indigenous people here who are surprised when they hear that so-called representatives are corrupt. listen to me. there are some very very very corrupt people at city hall. my friends, the time has come for a change. we know what is happening in room 200. we really know. we also know about some people who are planning to spend billions of our dollars

just because they have a mouth. i just came from the san francisco public utilities commission. they have set aside millions of dollars for mountain tunnel and you guys know nothing about it. millions of dollars spent >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> i'm here because almost a month ago i got a ticket for going to a stop sign. i was beyond to cars and the first car left with a second car just stood there and refused to move. for 6-7 min. i started blowing my horn at this car. after a

while, the car realized that there was a policeman on the other side of the street and all of a sudden his lights came on. this is at noon two-3 pm the site can run everything came on. the car that was in front of me finally got scared and took off about 100 mi./h. i stood behind him looking at the policeman on the other side of the street with the lights and the alarms and everything. i'm asking you, if you were there would you go to a stop sign if you saw policeman on the other side of the street with lights? no, you wouldn't you be a fool to do that. i went up to it and looked good i could see his wheels turning getting ready to come after me. he wasn't coming after me because i did anything wrong. he was coming after me because i woke him up. he was sleeping in his car doing something good i don't know what the hell he was doing. when i went through he said to me pulled me over and i said,

why do you stop before because i was gone my horn too long? he said, no. because when through a stop sign without stopping. i was there. for more than 10 min. and he says i went to a stop sign without stopping. i do like getting out of the car but at this point in my life, little old. when years ago i would've kicked the crap out of that son of a bitch. i think we now you need stop signs with lights like to have in south san francisco. if cameras all over the place. the cop could possibly give me a ticket >> thank you very much, sir. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. for two years

>> sir, please use the microphone. >> for three years i'm coming to this board. 85 years old man . it's only one country is the united states. its barbarian fascism and here receiving 11 barbarians, jewish, black christian chinese, nobody in the world has the right to evict a person without any reason. to evict a person. 85 years on the street to die on the street like a dog like animals. what country is this? my god. i came 40 years ago from russia. if i knew which your you are lying about

freedom. again, 11 here in uris poshest across the whole and one is sitting in the white house. you all have parents and grandparents. how could you i am homeless for two years. not your parents not your grandparents. not this fascist. my god. what can i do? do you want me to ask to bring a coffin here after maybe one more year or some short time? maybe it'll be a good idea to

bring a coffin >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> well, i like to put this up. you said thank you very much. a few minute i want everybody here and in the audience to give a gentleman two dollars which is nothing. that's nothing. but anyway i'm torn between two things i would like to talk about.-davis jesus said blessed are those that are persecuted for righteousness sake was glad to hear ted cruz visited in prison today and she loved the homosexuals and she loved god on off to obey him and glorify him and she is in prison on day number seven. i also feel lead to talk about this referendum on senate bill

21277. iv official. if anyone here would like to sign it can i see a show of hands? >> madame president >> there is no electioneering in the chamber >> there's no election hearing in the chamber. >> forget i ever said that. i was not aware of that. senate bill 277 is a dreadful thing that our jesuit governor signed into law and gives force vaccinations that go to school. dr. andrew wakefield was interviewed by the great house jones rocks on talk shows he started the rush limbaugh i listen to all of them, that's an exaggeration but he actually is, dr. andrew wakefield is not been debunked. he's always been a good doctor and he's established a clear link between autism and-i'd like you all to make some noise about this. it's totally unconstitutional thing. in

regards to kim, who is in prison we see jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. we don't hate homosexuals we speak the truth. not only to them but to everybody. god destroyed sodom and gomorrah by fire because of this particular sin. it is true that there were other sins in ezekiel we learned to other sins besides being a homosexual that cause them to be killed but jesus said that it would be more tolerable for sodom and gomorrah on judgment day >> thank you very much. next he could, please. >> thank you mdm. pres. arnold janssen supervisors, i'm here today because i know many of you are aware what happened to us at frederick w haynes apartments a month ago. where

-i'm trying to think of a nice word for an illegal board of directors along with unscrupulous real estate folk try to sell about 104 family units out from under us who have even three and four bedroom homes in our complex, which you know are hard to find in san francisco. 104 families came within a week of being put on the street a secret sale were only for developers were invited to an option that was all going to occur in one week. fortunately, to one of the developers who had to be a friend of mine we got wind of it and to the support members of this board and others in the city and the residence, we were able to fight it up. well those residents who were here with me that supports our efforts in solidarity would you just stand up quick. real quick. we want to come down and let you know how serious this thing is. we have temporarily fought it off. but it is not

over. when i came today to tell you is we will be handing to you , this is just a draft of a resolution that we are going to be asking you all to adopt that will codify these affordable units for ever and put money toward maintaining these is affordable units. these were built under redevelopment. redevelopment was charged with building and maintaining them is affordable but redevelopment is no longer there and we think that same requirements goes to the success agency and we need you to support us so you be getting the final draft very soon. thank you so much >> thank you. next speaker, please.. >> matter present before the next speaker begins, i'll just remind the members that in the public gallery that there is no applause allowed either for or against any speakers in the

chamber. >> thank you mdm. clerk. next speaker, please >> madame president, and supervisors, my name is donald briggs vice president the board of electors in the newtown park apartments. i will ask the members from midtown to stand up. first, we are here in solidarity with the previous speaker and we are also here seeking your support in our struggles with the mayor's office on housing. constituents in district 5, we want to know if you are for our efforts? we feel we have a fair and credible decision in our struggles with the mayor's office on housing. we are seeking your support to reinforce.. the board of supervisors resolution 325--07.

also, the board of supervisors five principles. one of them is ownership. what we are seeking and we are asking for your support. with the record state that midtown park apartments have never been subsidized housing. on that note, we want to thank you in advance for your support and your cooperation. >> thank you. next speaker, please >> good evening ladies and gentlemen. i swear put something on the thing you're >> can you please speak into the microphone. >> i'm sorry. let me just say one thing. this is my first time since you back at recess. aces

on the case is returning to city hall. i'm going to give the news the way it should be. both sides of the story in my opinion. right now ladies and gentlemen, the city, in my opinion, is the most corrupt city in san francisco. we also say the beginning this is the most racist city in the community but we [inaudible] now, dad he, we were together when he was with the hrc. it was no mystery if you ask about me probably see a lot of jokes. sometime ken spears. yes i am. in this town the black population is going down. $9.8 billion. yours truly ace

washington along the supervisor breed the people may not know was part of a committee that put together by then mayor gavin newsom. i was the only negro, the only person involved that had history because it ain't no mystery. as the issue is reporting on all the supervisor. i'm in a be in the pressroom and following every issue that has something to do with the african-american black negro. because my name is ace. and i'm on the case. so i'm not going to say anything today but i want you to know you can't stay away >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hello. hopefully this is redundant or maybe i'm 100 times but i was hoping that you guys could consider about

the b&b taxation. it's basically taxation we used to be known as illicit profit. it's a good and around [inaudible] the city feels it is being cheated out of the some of the tax revenue, what they're doing isn't exactly correct either. as far as the san francisco police officers are concerned, if there isn't already said psychometric examination or poly-metrics psychological exam for the officers and probably should be one because it makes uncover unconscious biases. we should also but competency exam for our judges and a brady affidavit signed by prosecutors since there's apparently a lot of brady violations. yes, if they could personally find some kind of affidavit that would be great. as far as aggressive and talk about a lot of groups at a

fewhello students missed it. if you could just start deportations of foreign nationals with foreign identify terrorist group that would be great. there was some legislation passed and el salvador recently. you guys may or may not be aware of. also if you could lose we criminalize grain association. that would give the police a very useful tool. where they could use their own discretion to arrest any gang members affiliated with associating with one another for 48 hours or so. also if you could get san francisco field division of the

>>my name is angela brown and on the townsh we of the service organization and i'm here to speak on the issue of what's happening with many of our senior homes. the most immediate one is from frederick haynes on but other homes in the western addition area and other areas where predominantly african-american are being targeted by developers.appears this is not a it indicated one

of the reasons that there was such an exodus of african-americans from san francisco is the housing issue. this is a prime example of why that is happening. why there's so many african-americans that are leaving san francisco. housing has become totally unaffordable and those that have been here for decades that have given their blood sweat and tears to the city in taxes and are now seniors are being moved out. so please do whatever you can to stop this. >> my name is betty evans. i live in the community for all my life and very disturbed about the affordable housing that developers piggybacked you

need to stop and he said stop now. i'm concerned about the corridor all the business that open up there not business person they look like me. i do know the other kind of-i been real. i can go to your neighborhood and put up a business because you won't give me the money. being a black person i can't get a grant but everybody else in the playmate that's a nonblack can get him and him upset about the corridor of fillmore. i'm sick and tired of it. we need to stop you. we vote you guys in to represent us and you don't represent us in the way we think they should be represent. we all want to live we all want to enjoy but one race of people can be put aside for another race of people. i lived in western addition all my life that seem what's happened. what

is going on? why should these other persons of other nationals, and our neighborhoods but their business but we don't have to patronize these persons. so, please give us a chance as black african americans, he was, what everyone assay but don't bring them in our neighborhood. >> thank you very much. next he could, please. >> got soon present greed and members of the board of supervisors and i'm here to ask to college hearing regarding illegal land-use of surplus city property on your bubbling up island and treasure island. the 70 acres of your bubbling up island and 220 acres of -became surplus city on may 20 at 25th and the san francisco redevelopment agency to clear and transparent transition

through the successor agency this amp is the scope of security investment and infrastructure was the treasure island did not. it successor agency was the city and county of industry which made a quick transfer because the.heavy use of any tax money in the process was nontransparent. the dda signed in 2011 was rejected by the state is not shovel ready or entitled to continue get the city is proceeding as though it is valid or protected. given this public depend on the dollars is only a violation of law but a failure and moral imperative to preserve and provide affordable housing in san francisco. 15 affordable rental units they plan on a permanent or not temporary and subject to the unknown limitation arts that was. based

upon past agreements the covenants will favor the developer in a few years residents will face the same dilemma as the south beach marina residence. i ask you, i implore you to please call hearing on this illegal surplus land use and to stop the luxury development and displacement of affordable housing renters on both of these islands. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> san francisco about the lie is being incredibly opposed to this giveaway of public plans on treasure island and your bubbling up island. it reminds me nothing more than half plane then the oligarchs in russia who gave away everything and people would work for any infrastructure that people were for. that land, treasure island belongs to the city. it is not up to the mayor or his cronies to give it away to each other or to take it. we need that land to be reserved for

100% of portal housing in accordance with the law. >> thank you. next, please. >> my name is kate walker and him a great dancer and both michael and i are in support, our whole organization is in support of this hearing that was requested by bette maki who was one of the leaders of the your bubbling up island tenants evicted. never seen at san francisco that the entire island can be evicted.when these

apartments are sold, of course they'll be much higher in terms of the mortgage and i put 3% affordable housing going in. the surplus land is another issue. i've been looking online in terms of city ordinances and state ordinances and the state ordinance reads, for surplus land, and that is 8 to 20 state surplus property, any conveyance of surplus property under this chapter would be subject to and personally applicable lie with state law including the state's surplus property statute and that has to do with the tack the fact that it has to be affordable. the first-has to be affordable. that is not happening at all.

it will be unaffordable. i've so much-so many materials you. i don't understand in the marina inn might be more in just with those 100 people a been addicted. some to treasure island, which is--is that articles all over the place. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> we need to do something quickly because were doing with human lives and we don't want them to be homeless. >> thank you. next he could, please. >> tom gilbert t 2000 south

beach apartments. welcome back. san francisco sleeping with the windows open again. i wonder if it's cool air to the noise issue. the lease is up there again. guys need to take care. it's an issue it's time has come. i've said, i've asked before for a third minute on the third time i was wondering if we could get a reaction to that. i want to say, again, i am a call for a new direction that includes a new mayor. jobs and growth and unaffordable housing by about a hopeful sustainable equilibrium the rice of the entire city. before the vacation i asked the mayor to join supervisor farrell

scheme to put a dollar in every political dollar in san francisco's election campaign with a name to it. since then we've got in airwaves pay to play, better than the mafia. no one is running against and so the entire democratic party is in line. yet, there's 84,000 there's 84,083 people in the city don't be a better mayor than this presents a mayor. this is an army at all my calculating that? these are the people that voted against gabe washington and were still getting these land deals from the mayor's office. it's time for a change. there's an army waiting for a name. we can write it in. maybe the pen can meet more powerful than the dollar. housing. i've got 11 seconds. i've got a five point housing plan. i would love a third minutes. thank you.

>> thank you. next he could, please. >> hello. my name is david brink is him and artist living in-triangle. i'm here to speak on behalf of the-resident. i hope you will consider to have a hearing on this other people i've spoken more at length about the reasons for that but for me, the issue is affordable housing. there's a lot of talk about affordable housing. the people living there have affordable housing. instead, they're good abilities luxury condos, maybe the mayor is going to pass so-called affordable units in some of the buildings of being put up and down the main streets of our city. they're not affordable for most of us. everybody knows that. it's a laugh. so, why get rid of the affordable housing you already have in order to give a giveaway to some private corporation. no-bid contract to

them. i think this needs to be investigated. please, do so >> thank you. asked speaker, please. >> denise luis and francisco native voter and taxpayer. i want to bring to your attention , there's a really big problem that requires some attention.. these stress and dying trees on the on your gated city property. if you want to example, just go along with shaughnessy boulevard and the covert into grand canyon and you see stanza of dying eucalyptus trees. they represent a hazard much is because they can fall down on us, but they can also fuel of firestorm that rumor 1991, oakland hills. this is not much different. this is the fourth consecutive year of drought.

these trees normally take up a lot of water but they're how the status and shown to be dying. i hope we can continue this conversation via e-mail. i will send you a link to an article on the front page of western observer. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> my name is nancy mcnabb. representing my children fourth generation san franciscans, i'm sorry. my name is nancy mcnally. i'm representing my children, fourth generation san franciscans so that they'll have a record of what i have to say. i'm also the founder of the ace memorial and have been a part activist since 1969. the people's park, berkeley. there's very few people like myselfanymore it's because of

the massive evictions that's been going on for many many years. i'm here to say and i want to scare all of you people are dying from stress. it's real simple. your housing makes a difference. i'm speaking for myself suffering stress. i don't own a house. i was addicted 20 years ago addicted 20 distribute you can yawn and you all you want but the next time you hear about somebody dying in san francisco because of this housing crisis i've been here to talk to you. whether you listen or not, i don't know. it doesn't seem like you do.

>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> my name is jackie bart schuck. i'm with the plaza 16 coalition. i'm here to talk about the island. so, why should the city, with city-owned property he developed as 95% luxury housing? half the units that we bought up by people won't even live in them. it'll be a millionaire's islands. most of those people on the island these residents smoke won't move to treasure island because of the health hazards. you're forcing them out and forcing them to relocate to treasure island with its admits contamination cleanup. so the choice of giving up as exposure to toxic chemicals or leave san francisco forever. my other question is, why does the city of san francisco award a no-bid contract to rent our? this is surplus land theft as you've heard before. this is

mayor lees fantasy islands and supervisor jane kim you have the power to care about your book buena island and stop this land. do it. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> my name is lisa vincent can work with culture action network it been a member of san francisco since 1997 and a been in love with the city since i was 14. i'm really tired of coming here for the working class people. why is their war on the working class homes and why can we have more than one kind of economic model? why we [inaudible] diverse by from. we love this place because of all the wonderful ways that people live. i finally had a saturday

this weekend that reminded me of why the city is wonderful in involves being in buildings of different kinds of economic platitude and it's too much. it's too much. i'm barely making a living right now but i'm coming down here so much. i'm really tired of it but you all power to stop being monoculture. stop mono cropping our city, please >> any other members of the public alike to speak at this time? please come for. >>.it's to the stock market the way they evaluate the petroleum companies is by reserve. that's why the evaluation they get. for years it's bizarre. it's absurd because we be

committing suicide to take that much petroleum out of the ground at any one time. so i appreciate that. i think my comments are part of the continuing what the others speakers are saying. if you look at the kind of housing that's being built, couple of us got together to oppose market-rate housing development in the tenderloin. that's now been-it's in play now. i don't know who's going to rent a $3000 month studio in the tenderloin but apparently with no parking having no parking-but apparently there people that's-they believe that's going to happen. so our neighborhood is also under attack. going back to the petroleum issue we don't have enough infrastructure, not enough renewable energy for the development that we already have in the city. where the country. i'm perplexed.

>> are the basic question.. if the island deal isn't so poor, i don't see the harm of the investigation is? either is what it sounds like it is to the community, or something different and if there was an investigation then hopefully, were going to make clear a lot of things that are not currently known clearly to your public. so, i would strongly encourage an investigation in a very public transparent discussion of the whole situation which really doesn't seem like it's happened yet. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public who would like to provide public comment at this time? seeing none, public comment--these come forward. >> today, supervised my name

is sandra mann. i'm a residence of san francisco lifetime resident. my concern is, what is to be done with the property surrounding the former site of candlestick stadium? i realize that candlestick stadium was sitting on city property. now the surrounding area there is state property because i used to work for the state 25 something years ago. so, ever since candlestick was bulldozed to talk about the building this brand-new neighborhood, but that land surrounding candlestick stadium is state surplus property. i'm wondering what is to be, that. so, i await your answer.

>> thanks. are there any other members of the public would like to provide public comment at this time? seeing none, public comment is now closed >>[gavel] >> madam clerk, can you please read the without reference to committee items >> item 17 through 22 are being considered for immediate odd option without committee reference. a single roll call vote may neck these items in a member may object and have it considered separately. >> does anyone want to sever any of the items? seen no names on the roster radical, can you please call the roll call. item 17-22 supervisor christiansen aye; cohen aye; farrell aye; kim aye; mar aye tang aye wiener aye yee aye opelousas aye breed aye compos

aye dara leben aye >> those items are approved unanimously. gallo >> mdm. clerk can you please read the in the mornings. >> today's meeting we adjourned in memory of the island beloved individuals on behalf of supervisor compos, ms. giovanna luna, mrs. rosemary lambert and mrs. was arial and i are. >> colleagues this brings us to the end of our agenda. mdm. clerk, is there any further business before us? >> mdm. president that concludes our business for today >> okay. we are adjourned. >>[gavel].

>> good afternoon i'd like to call the order of regular meeting of united states constitution today is tuesday, september 8, 2015, roll call please. commissioner president caen pr commissioner moran commissioner kwon and commissioner courtney is excused today. >> thank you. >> third item is the approval of the minutes of august 11, 2015 are there any corrects or additions to the minutes? >> roll call second. >> any public comment on the minutes of august 11th? seeing none, i'll call for the vote >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed the motion carries

item 4. >> which is general public comment from the public and i have mr. decostco first to speak. >> i'd like to talk about a number of issues in general during the general public comment i'm very interested in really what is going to happen to mountain tunnel especially in light of el nino and how that is going to an impact so i really don't know any experts that know too much about el 99 having said that, we need to have some deliberations meaningful deliberations on mountain tunnel

i read somewhere that now you're ready to expand over $200 million $212 million i read it somewhere so i'll start with the marginal amount and then you know any way you look at it it is the money that has to be accounted for the full transparency before the constituents of san francisco the second issue i have is about the covington tunnel we have to revisit it that so that we get a meaningful update i'm glad you know they have a project manager or maybe he's a higher title in wealthy i call him wade

but i'm glad we have small business like him on calaveres i'm very interested to know who's our comboeft there how many studies linked to ohio dramatical have you done over in calaveres i know. >> a i'll talk about the arching loft and found skeletons you must remember we've found human remains along our area the sfpuc and i represent the first people some point under the free speech of information act i have to go to a few meetings i'll ask for the reports because it is important we remember that hetch hetchy the

real area of hetch hetchy was stolen from the first people the folks we can't take it for granted we know in the 2015 it is still flush our toilets with clean drinking water that's a no no thank you very much. >> thank you the next speaker is ann clark. >> good afternoon, everyone i'm ann clark vice president of the friends of camp mather i'm here to invite you to our september family tent it is going to be on september 22nd saturday that's a saturday at lake merced boathouse from one to 5 activities free a climbing wall and bouncing house and kayak in

the lake there's lots of activities we really appreciate all the help and for the support from the commission and staff we've had to later than a lot about the events and truthfully you've been wonderful guidance for us we really appreciate they're listening to us and helping us so don't forget us come on september 26th try to be there we'll look forward to seeing you on a personal note harlan kelly was a volunteer others camp mather and he and his family was there it was wonderful i i have to tell you truthfully when you know the boss is in town we have to behave my family said i by a preponderance of the evidence the best that week so harlan kelly you thank you and looking at to seeing. >> and my appreciation for the

board for all you've done for us. >> thank you very much. >> i want to extend our appreciation to you and the friends of camp mather now that harlan is a big fan we're arguing who the bigger fan is of camp mather it wouldn't there without our help and support thank you pub. >> thank you. >> do we have any other speakers for public comment? seeing none, next item, please >> item 5 communications. >> commissioners any comments? i do have one buried under the annual electrical resource plan i see that under recollection number ten that our units are

now qualified as green power i'm sure you want to say something i've been so anxious about this for years is this really true >> barb hale we of the through a process that certified the 3 kicker wood power hours for the eligible resources and the meeting will come to order. is an unit those units are regarded by the sfavks as clean and green if any, that doesn't make all of mucosin. >> so mucosin is a low unit that janitors when we're in a high water time of year. >> oh, okay. >> so, yes, the kirkwood are the big units that qualify

okay. so what percentage of our units now qualify. >> it is about thirty percent the power we janitor in an average water year as california compliant about 4 hundred and 50 thousand megawatt hours a year. >> so what did he say what's the possibility for the other 70 percent. >> under california's current rules they don't qualify if we improve their performance they're out put it is possible to have any incremental improvement qualify but not the units themselves. >> okay. >> okay. thank you. >> how do you improve the out put for more water or efficiency. >> with changes to the turbine improvements to the efficiency

of the units it is not the amount of water but rather the amount of power they are generate. >> have we done any kind of cost benefit analysis of that. >> we haven't done it strictly from an rp s on my team i everything it is a factor that is included in the capital improvement program assessments on an credentialal basis worth $15 a meg hour to be qualified as a california compliance renewable so you get about a 15 12 to 15 megawatt when you take that killing water and have it california compliant. >> we've been putting together our business plan for hetch hetchy it would be interesting to include this as a component and see if there is some savings

or some cost benefit. >> yeah. i think we'll definitely do that the challenge if we continue to have a dry year and investing the money and benefiting we need to be careful this is something we'll take into consideration the cost of rewidening versus the cost of additional output and the cost of receiving the hour. >> well, i also think as we move into next year's budget to look at all of those i imagine there is issues related to the water issues and the business plan as well maybe a few scenarios to look at it and this is a case of one of them. >> one of the things i mean the business plan calls for selling less and less energy on the

market to whatever benefit will that diminish over time it has focused the language we use so we don't talk about the rp s power like 9 green house gas free that is a physical fact of it so we can do claim credit for it as we market a green product it qualifies as green not just qualifying as rp s under the subtly. >> or the benefits. >> except that and which is the key. >> right. >> okay commissioner any other comments i do have a call i think you wanted to speak to 5 c. >> good afternoon commissioner courtney nicole cu for bosco i want to speak on the annual

report a significant document 3 deserves pause for comment i applaud puck to complete the overall wissop on 88.7 that is expressive i've watched it number slowly creep up over time and now for the time schedule is on schedule may 2018 for the budget $65 billion and i hope that that continues to be the case as we move through the last couple of years we certainly have challenged with the calaveres damn it is not yet through the construction phases but my hope is that we will make solid progress and courage the commission to focus on that is certainly helpful to your staff and help to the overall progress

of the project thank you very much. >> we appreciate that thank you. >> the next item is other commission business. >> no? okay next item, please. >> item 7 is the bio annual budget development. >> okay. there's a little

we'll role with that commissioner courtney and commissioners eric sandler assistant general manager and cfo i have a brief presentation here foyer you to kickoff the bio annual budget process so i have the agenda here the first 3 items to provide context for understanding how our venue budget fits in the planning activity and next item relatives to the considerations that are important for this particular bio annual budget period when i have here is the puc has a very integrated framework driven by commission policy the first to items as a capital

doesn't even agency cpa capital planning is sdament involved with the planning so we have the first two items are planning efforts that are long term in nature the 10 year capital plan and financial plan they provide the long term visibility for the capital investment rates and charges trends so those plans to look into the long term future the next two items the operating budget and capital budget those really based on the long term plan they set the stage for the next two years are that finally a number of rates and charts activities we have we those occur at different frequency i siding so we have rates and charges for sewer service that are on a multi year basis this last resetting process was a 4 years we're in year 2 we have 3

more years of fixed ralth rates and charges the whole rates are set annually set by contract we have wholesale customers that represent the sales and revenue are responsible for the tracking of the amount of the costs to the stent that in any year actual collections different it is mixed up this is the nature the wholesale and prigs and retailed electrical rates are set annually so this next slide highlights the budget development calendar and what i pointed out we're here in september kicking off the presentation of the commission the general manager are issue the instructions we'll

vet the proposals to present to the commission during this time as well from now through december we're going to be continuing the process that we started earlier in the year to review with you the key commission policies and receive from you any input changes you want to make to the policies the one is the debt management policy and the assurance policy and the communities benefits and the environmental justice we have a few more policies to cover and ear getting this on the forward agenda between now and december and then finally once the budget has been presented considered and individual through you it goes into the greater city process that is presented to the board for consideration and action so we have a budget policy framework this is what is used

in discussing and communicating about the two year budget previously and on the left in blue are the focus areas the strategy sustainability plan on top of it is not in blue okay on and on on top of we have the various policy initiatives twenty-four hour utilities and asset management and capital investment and redevelopment one of the more specific to the current investments dealing with the city and the workforce development and perhaps in the section you'll let me know when consider the budget to make any changes you'd like. >> i wasn't following redevelopment it wasn't. >> how we develop with the development within the city.

>> you can actually - >> so like treasure island development authority board and hypocritical. >> hunters point and i guess i don't understand maybe now is not the right time of the policy definition then. >> i think this is and that's a good question i'm trying to get our arms around what this indicates. >> i have the same question in my recollection when i came on the commission there already been a fair amount of work the commission did to begin those areas and whatever the logic was was lost to me i don't know what it was i wasn't here contaminate. >> we had a spreadsheet.

>> that's something we can work on to try to come up and explain that a little bit and get our input. >> the purpose is to give this more time going over each policy as it relates to the budget framework so maybe if we put that in the parking lot and come back and talk about each one of them to see if their relevant. >> there is actually, one of the items we'll be talking about is the mission driven budget that's one the commission policies that would be an opportune time to talk about the framework. >> can we have the slides please. >> so the next slide relates to

the considerations for the upcoming budget we're inteven capital driven organization capital investments the way we finance it one of the largest components of the future expenditures and rates and charges so consideration of the capital budget is vital to frngd open understanding our long term and short term financial picture some go that more topic is understanding what are the continued drought conditions mean for us as we manage in the short term and long term and medium term this is not a unique situation to the puc every water district in california and the west is facing this on the plus side we're well positions on the plus side unlike other agencies not to purchase extremely expensive supplies that components the challenges we're

facing reduced demand and potentially hard end demand in addition, we have retail water rates and harasses that you are set for 3 more years including that year and set on average demand a normal year demand what we're seeing a level significantly blow that rates and charges the commission adopted for the 4 years work period so this next slide relates to capital investment and it is fairly busy i'll try to unpack it what we have and this data is from the most relevance adopted capital plan on the excess the 10 year period if fiscal year2025

and the capital spending relates to the colored bar the green bar is the wastewater capital program the blue the water program and the yellow is the hetch hetchy power program so we're talking about if you add those bars together as you can see if p that represents $8..70 percent of the lawyers relates to the watermelon investment about $5.7 billion and the remaining bid is split between water and hetch hetchy so this is the bars now if you look at the right act excess that relates to the red line that represents debt service 85 percent of the capital is for long term debt

that debt the way we finance it and manage interest during construction thatt service on that debt lags because of the boring and the capital investments as you can see the growth in the debt service over the 10 year period will grow from $312 million a year on the right action excess to $250 million to 2025 that's a large increase so the expenses in the future relates to debt services with the capital investment a comprehensive review and vetting and the capital plan is key to the managing the long term rates and charges. >> is that ssi p and capital that's everything. >> yes. that's all capital investments

of the puc. >> that we've currently budgeted for not mountain tunnel. >> it don't include $50 million from the capital that was approved in february this is all in one place we have a very big organization and investing a lot. >> and one of the interesting things can we have the virtual again? is that right now the debt serviced are heal i didn't relate to the water but in 2025, 2026 equal between water and wastewater >> all right. sorry >> all those questions. >> i do i'm trying to understand understand the math the finances but the bar didn't

show the same kind of you know the blue bar is relating small and the debt service would be about equal. >> the debt services because of debt issue associated with the water system that debt goes on for thirty years it is a changing net as this number gets larger we we suspend $4.4 billion that fell off the bar if you look at the previous 10 years the blue will be much hearier than the green now moving forward you'll see the green. >> the green is smaller. >> i guess i should have classified i was talking about the mix in the red line which you don't - >> that's what you don't see.

>> right. >> so we've talked about how important to manage capital expenditures how do we incorporate the impacts associated with this drought and the hydrologic long term and the next few slides focus on that one thing we know we don't know how this is going to progress so we we attempted to develop a number of scenarios to provide a boundary level of understanding what is happening over the next several years and constructed scenarios with the drought worsens and we looked at the demand profile that correspond and evaluated the reduced can understand of water and power

production and taken inadvertent in a short-term and medium to mitigate or do you want to this impact. >> so the first scenario here we have here is the drought end scenario i'll orient us around the slide the access we have historical and projected fiscal years from 2003 to 2019 and on the y access the retailer water saddles expressed inillions of gallons day on the chart the first one is the blue line which starts at 74 m g d in 2003 and goes to 62 to 2015 as you can see that there has been a steady decrease in demand for

essentially over the period of one percent compound annually so over that 12 year period demand has disinterested about one percent impounded annually so the ground floor line represents the level of demand or sales we've used with we set rates and charges for last year, this year, the subsequent year and 2018 so we've set rates based on sales at 67 m g d and as you can see that in network 2015 we sold 62 m g d the drought end somewhere essentially assumes that 2016 will look 2015 and 2015 but will return to the predemand this is probably if you want to vault this scenario optimistic we've

seen some demand hardening the demand will be slower than that but again trying to create a boundary is this space past history from when we were coming out of the drought. >> it is consistent i'll say it is consistent what we've experienced in the past but the degree depended on the degree this has been a statewide effort to reduce demand behaviors may not return quite so quickly. >> and what you notice here there is about an 8 percent reductions in fiscal year 2015 sales versus what rates and charges were set based on and any questions any more questions about drought end?

may i have the slides? >> so the next scenario is drought continues what this is essentially largely the same as the prior slides as you can see those that this scenario seems there is an additional 3 percent reduction versus fiscal year 2013 so a total difference of the levels rates and charges set on and 11 percent if drought worsens an additional 3 percent reduction and at this point we think this is a pretty good boundary at this point, we're nearing minimum health and safety levels set by the united nations we think the drought worsens is a lower bound.

>> so, now we've reviewed the demand profiles of the different scenarios i said to quantifiably about the financial impacts and qualifyly let's look at the water the reduction in water demand the reduction in sales and revenue again 2/3rd's of the sales from wholesale customers to our wholesale customers their rates are volume and talking about the recovery of a certain 340u78 in one year not the case recovered in the northern california year or if we've over recovered take them back in the following year if so a self-balancing contract and this is for the prospective of the puck so your real exposure with sales within our service area retail water retails and charges

are 15 percent of the revenues recovered through a fixed service charge and the remaining 85 is volume metric those are the portions of the revenue that will decrease versus what we expect in rates and charges. >> let's turn to the wastewater enterprise and we've got for wastewater services based on the water volume around 90 percent and all out of wastewater charges are volume metric so it is a one for one reduction and no volume so more exposed to the water sales than our water enterprise then we have the power enterprise the impacts the power entrepreneurs are different no changes in the electricity demands but the

wastewater to generate the electrical whether it is less precipitation we produce less electric and have lower sales on the market and have to purchase power to mockup for the time of time match there's a reduction in the hydro power and increase in power purposes unlike the wastewater and water enterprise we expect to see some stickyness in terms of demand when it starts the rain the power recoveries we'll generate electricity and it will be reversible so any questions about those kind of quality active impact okay. i'll move

to the next slide that tries to summarize the financial impacts in an transient way we've ran a lot of scenarios for over a 10 year period what we tried to do was to characterize the financial impact let me back up as or as i mentioned rates and charges for retail services are set there 20183 more years of set rates and recharges the impact is smaller in the first year and larger in the last because rates and charges are going up we chose fiscal year 2015 in the middle the period representative active of an average rather than showing a huge matrix so we have a have

here by the 3 enterprises drought continues and drought worsens and in the first line for each enterprise let's look at water drought ends the financial impact is negative $16 million and that's in line a and line b is that number expressed as a percentage of total retail revenue so one way of thinking of that if you wanted to that were a permanent reduction in demand and follow it through the rate increases that is what it would be on the wastewater enterprise as you can see that the retailed revenue impact is $19 million about 7 percent of total retail wastewater revenue as you can see the drought end scenario so for the drought recoveries quite rapidly and no financial impact and easily read

the drought continues and drought wolgz and see what those more serious conditions so in reviewing eric those are disembodied numbers put those in total budget this is what you know graphic attempts to do looks at the 2015 projected budget of $976 million the operating budget not the capital budget so the revenue impact when combined with the drought end scenario for the 4 percent of total uses drought continues another 4 percent and then the drought worsens another 2 percent a range from the 4 to 10 percent of total uses so it is significant but not the end of the world.

>> so let's now we have a sense of the challenges what are the tools to mitigate those challenges well when our talking about financial impact 3 options cut costs revenues or increase revenues this is the response is a balancing act all of those strategies have inventions 0 short term and long-term if you're looking at cutting the operation and maintenance which is the twenty-four hour operations of the business and debt services one is unhave been able use it and restructure it in a different situation but repay and the kip investment a trade off is in all of those reduce the expenses but quakes to service level if you get into

a chronic cycle you'll have to deliver on the 24 so the cost cutting make sure your striking the right balance similarly you can utility resources draw resources commission has healthy resource levels the watermelon power enterprise but again an extend spend down to a structural problem is not will fuvent ruin our credit rating given the size of our capital plan going forward not something you'll really want to kind of push the envelope on and finally there's the option of increasing revenues this is what we're thinking about what happens in 2019 when we reset

the retail rates and charges again are we're going to have to make up for you know permanently hard demand so what did this mean for us in the short term this fiscal year we're putting in pursuant manufacture or measures to preservers similarly how we managed last year in the meantime we have an opportunity to develop the budgets we've think updating the financial plan through a comprehensive review the operating capital budget and in the long term it really what are the strategies around one rebalancing against potential long term hardening of demand but mitigating the rates some of the exposure to volume

metric charges particularly the wastewater system so i know we've spoke to you when we presented the last could have of services about the opportunities to change the revenue mix of the wastewater enterprise and increase the level of fixed charges that is something we're working on currently and be part of any like part of the proposal for the f 19 and 20 budget so the next step in our process we'll be continuing our scenario planning and monitoring the drought conditions we'll be issuing budget reductions instructions to the organizations that focus on containing costs and dealing with potential you know ongoing decreases in revenue and striking a billion, of course between you know

cost-efficientcy and service level impacts we'll be implicating as part of the process a comprehensive review the capital and operating budget and continue to look look for one time opportunities we'll continue the use of resources there maybe opportunities for land sales to take advantage of the market and take advantage of the attractive interest rate market and reduce the debt we'll continue to look for those opportunities throughout the year. >> that concludes my presentation. and i'll be happy to answer any questions or take input feedback? >> stormwater that wouldn't be constitute without our next rate infrastructure; right?

>> right. >> you can't do a restructuring of the rates or anything like that if drought gets bad that's the chart; is that right. >> if things got bad the process we go through working with the rate service board have a policy for prop 218 way and have to officially dairy a drought that triggers the agreement so it has its own life of its own it is a possibility. >> right. >> sort of trying to understand the universe of options and you know there's all this talk about el nino in winter we don't know what that means reminded us but is there any opportunity in there may be a question for steve richie around the el nino an opportunity it capture more water i know we've talked about

this and brings to mind the strment fee and it's a shame we don't have that if we have the rainfall to think about the options if we possibly could get into a rainy season and use it to our vantage. >> the most important thing about a water system to have the ability to store it; right? and we pretty much our system is surviving because of storage how do we get more storage that helps the waterside on the wastewater does it based on you know collecting the stroerm so how do we capture the stormwater in a way to use that is a longer discussion we're trying to recycle treatment anothers oceanside and utility that that

is something we're going to the process i think the drought worsens that he has us to move projects faster and have us evaluate other options but those things take time and we've been looking at the diverse water supply for some time now. >> i mean one last question on the financial piece you talk about that as an operational shortfall but it looks we have capital shortfall issues as well; correct? and you can't mix those it together. >> their segregated so the reduction in revenues that impact all of your spend. >> uh-huh. >> in that year. >> we need to think about two revenue strategies, if you will; correct?

>> in terms of that is if we increase the revenue on the capital side like cost cutting for example, of ssi that that goes through the capital side; is that right. >> all the money comes from rates and charges whether it goes to cash fund capital or pay debt service or pay operating expenses it comes in the same revenue source. >> so what the plan is that we want to identify what had we can cut operational and what the impacts of those cuts will be and then on top of we will look at you know short term capital maybe dir certainly projects or re-evaluate projects we have to do i think that is more of a short-term and when we go into

the new rates we'll look at the long term because i don't know that we want to be in a position where our systems is in a sate of disrepair we start dir a lot of the maintenance that causes us problems it more of a short-term solution so we can live within the rate structure but if we get into a situation where we need to evaluate and we'll come back and look maybe the rates but what we're trying to do is stay within our means right now and the most prudent thing to everybody to rice reduce the amount of expenditures right now so we're looking operating and capital and looking at all those different options right now. >> yeah. i'm trying to get a handle as we move into january

pretty well quickly our options as far as the cost cutting for the next 2 year budget cycle and help us prioritize those hard decisions but on both sides or the on the expense side. >> yes. >> couple of comments first is on the fixed cost versus variable cost this is primarily on the wastewater see of things it does strike me that the difficulty that presents is self-i think inflicted wound and it makes no sense to have a hundred percent of the wastewater revenues based on water consumption it is the least consumption related cost we have so if we come up with other ways of addressing that

you can count on my support for doing that that make sense to balance that more appropriately. >> there are other water agencies you how does that work so the agency i was at has 60 percent of the charges are fixed for wastewater. >> i mean in some agencies the department the agency that runs the water system is a different system that runs the sewer system some sewer systems are on the general fund and you know we're obviously different by the practice around the industry is all over the board. >> another thing key we're unique in not only you know having water and sewer but part of the sewer we have a combined sewer not only stormwater so we're by and large that on the

amount of water people use assuming their flushing 90 percent of it down the sewer. >> right second comment on the strategy of reducing costs and managing the capital program to balance the budget i think make sense in the short term with some caveats but as a short-term matter being under fiscal year pressure from time to time is a good thing it forces you to make decisions you should probably make anyway will that are hard to make as a short term strategy this is not bad a key caveat is that for projects that are fund through our wholesale rates because essentially those revenues are fixed but no reason financially

to cut back on this at all even though you have to debt finance the cash flow you you know you're going to get the money not a reason to spend that. >> soy think you know looking a 2019 decision intersection for the middle eastern restructuring make sense for the austerity is a good thing my third comment i think the most important one that is i mean if we stand eric and steve up to each other they have different scenarios one is success and problem a water strategy supply success i think that i would like to see this as an opportunity to try to

institutionalize some of the sxhefrment games we've achieved through the drought not a hundred percent some or are liability hardship but to plan on that being did new normal and working hard to make sure it is the normal and not happen by accident that will take a little bit of money as we do our long-term planing and water supply planning i think we should be firmly to establish the drought savings as permanent and that has financing issues associated with that it the kind of thing to looked forward to in 2019 i'd like to dovetail on that i was going to make a remark about your slide 16 which is the of him planning complmgz we which we look at medium term

and long-term as you mentioned are we're going to look at that with drought in mind continuing drought or back to a normal water supply. >> i think what we're going to be one the keep going things we're looking at in developing the updated financial plans what will demand look like and probably provide i haven't talked about with my colleagues but adding to the productivity. >> will we see one document or continuing scenarios. >> i think that will probably be in the context of the long term financial plan we'll look at sensitivities with the long

term impacts if sales were going to be shifted down 5 percent or you know show you grow i think that will be what we're looking at more the the long term impact question than a next two year question. >> so the first thing i guess we are recognizing that in the future we're not going to sell as much water so revenue will not come in given the fact the budget is based on selling more water what do we need to had to live within the revenue we've look at the 10 year capital plan and our operating and when the actual opportunity to look at rates we'll look at that and come back to you and you know talk about what the rate

increases will be based on all three of those. >> yeah. i would hope that conversation is pretty much hand in hand with the budget rates even though they've not be looked for alisa miller three or four years to understand we could be seeing significant rate increases and those will have budget implications. >> yeah. the first thing we're looking at the short term which is doing what we can to reduce our expenditures and maybe using some of the reserve and then look at the 10 year capital plan as we mentioned here we've been planning and looking at different rate structures for the wastewater we've been you know involved in that on the waterside on the retail opportunity and in 3 more years to address that but also look at the projects and given to our

point re-evaluate what's in our 10 year capital plan assuming we may have to diversity our project supply and i think about moving up projects faster. >> my two takeaways number one conservatism costs money and you have the same costs the rate has to go up so i think we need to know that and tell people that and as we go through the future selling less water be prepared to do it that's non-and two needs to be that we can't succumb to financial nervingness that led us to cut back on the capital program in important ways i say room to fine-tune and

maybe things that are less important and could be delayed without impact but we need not to go back to the battle if we spend a lot of time in get to this point the system was better maintained we need to stay there we've already sold bonds we'll be spend that for key infrastructure like the amount we should be preying in an aggressive way and not let the financial tail wag that dog. >> i agree. >> any other comments i've mentioned on the phone i found this i really thank you and your staff for putting this together

it is very, very important and we're living in this and have to look at this so thank you for that thank you. >> i know we have some public comment nicole or - >> okay. >> i'd like to make some very practical suggestion commissioners i've said it many, many times and i'm going to say it for the final time you all need to make an assessments on our clean water pipes and sewer pipe that are leaking to find out right off the what the how much clean drinking water and

how much of the surge is seeping and containment our ground water having said that we've not made a single assessment if it rains if we get one inch of rain how much of it is run off? there are experts that have captured the figure and say we can save such as 80 million gallons of water you need to ask our experts to call other agencies or if they can 1st district to bring this report to us now, when we have presentations like this having worked in the military those have