loftus. >> meeting to order can you please rise for the pledge of allegiance

of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> commissioner president loftus i'd like to call roll please do sergeant. >> commissioner president loftus commissioner turman is in route commissioner marshall is in route commissioner dejesus commissioner mazzucco commissioner wong commissioner melara commissioner president loftus we have quorum and also police chief grufr and joyce hicks hello, everyone thank you, welcome to the neighborhood in the northern and for the

korean-american center we do that on the third wednesday and come to city hall this is a special malia cohen we're focused on the issue of body cameras and the policy this commission will do you want so we choose the northern district for the first community mooepg in addition from a presentation from the captain a presentation from the commander about the process we've under a taken and the issues and the various positions area hear from the you know what i mean and here from you that is actually what we're most landmarking to this is a community meeting pe i have my colleagues and myself we have day jobs also evangelism to start request commissioner mazzucco. >> well eastbound everything or everything i'm am attorney in san francisco button like a lot

of us think the commission a assistant district attorney and a former u.s. attorney for 9 years in san francisco i'm a nature san franciscan and my wife and i raised our children in the northern district arrest commissioner wong. >> and i hi, i'm victor in my day a director for services for the immigrants we provide services burn or around doongs and as well as for the youth coming from central america i've been an attorney for 23 years i've been a former public defender and da in san francisco. >> i'm not petting traffic been on the commission for seven years a little bit more than that i'm or attorney by day plaintiff's case and a former

pr. >> commissioner melara. >> i'm ms. merl worked at st. francis hospital and on the staff of san francisco unified school district school of social work i live in the terryville district. >> as i said aim suzy loftus i've spent been ♪ room inform many meetings with my friends lived in the neighborhood for 6 years and brought two of my daughters home from the hospital this is familiar now my day job work at the district attorney's office and i've got the honor of serving as a neighborhood prosecutor to address public safety issues i'm happy to be here we'll have two commissioners come i think parking is tricky so we'll have them radio introduce themselves

>> sergeant, next item. >> >> number one commanding officer to address the commission on police activities in the northern district discussion. >> do you want us to move is it all power point or should we wait a combination of power point but i don't know if you need to move it it would be better if you want to move. >> petting are wants to move so i'm goigoing to. >> all right. we'll get

started thank you commissioner president loftus in my day job i'm the captain of police (laughter) as well as my night and weekend job first of all, thank you to everybody as i said i'm greg the captain of the northern prosecute police station and pleased to have you here in of the northern district i want to thank the commission for deciding to come to the northern district because it is an important area of the economy and the community is very involved in a lot of issues that have to address the policing and so it is on a ideal location i'm glad you're here thank you chief suhr for allowing me to speak and droiks glad to see you a couple of people i want to introduce i want to thank the

association the korean-american association and introduce mr. tom king tom raise your hand he has grayish allowed up i us to be here night get thank you very much tom i'd like to thank the members of the police advisory committee this is an advisor board i should with very diligently thank you very much board i appreciate it (clapping.) and a special thanks to everybody in the community that is out here i'm going to spend a short time talking about the state of issues in the northern district you're here to talk about the body camera issues we'll have 3 opportunity and looking forward it that in my presentation will be take a few

minutes we'll talk about in the northern district where we are in the northern district as well as changes to the district that come in the last couple of months and talk about the staffing in the northern district is and talk about specialized training the personnel that will continue to occur and talk about trends and the statistics we have going on in the northern district a little bit about traffic and where we are in the traffic encroachment and accomplishments in the northern district and finish with some goals for the northern station as we move into 67 so if we can go to the next slide. >> looking at the first slide a picture of the northern district and the northern district boundaries have changed about two months ago as you may know many attended the meeting that occurred in the northern

district as we were looking through resdrinth as part of that the northern district expanded much further west and picked up a geography area we're responsible for the boundary the current no more than is walling did care to the south and in the north the green and the east is larkin street buses it is not northern station didn't have responsibility of policing larkin but the biggest chance we've moved west to steiner street to divisadero and have both sides of divisadero we went from policing about 5.3 square miles up to 7 plus so the additional miles means an additional call for services for the police officers it increased our population that lives if 90

thousand up to hundred and 6 thousand we have 16 thousand more people e people that live in the district that sometimes require our police services what are some of the biggest changes the infrastructure that we picked up by the additional geography area 10 additional schools we're responsible for policing, two additional hospitals and 5 additional public housing facilities that r our officers police one the reasons we changed the boundary to move west we have housing public housing development that are within lack loormd a stones 0 throw from the parking lot of northern station and for years that was responsible for the park station and easy for the officers to get to the locations then the officers to come across

the city that's been an advantage for us when it comes to properly policing the city talk about the neighborhoods in san francisco i have 5 supervisors board of supervisors that i work with work well with their in my mind some of the fine itself supervisors we have mark farrell a in district 2, julie christensen with who has the lower russian hill area by polk street and lennar urban as you may know know in district 5 london has a majority of northern district i work closely with her special in the western edition and supervisor jane kim's by city hall and scott wiener has a portion of what we have down by the waller street they were individuals i talk to

an a daily and we believing basis and supportive of the officers at northern station and often in existence with me by amending or phone inform hear concerns you might have get forwarded to me i want you to make sure you, you know who we are work with as a move forward talk about staffing we move into and took a couple of minutes currently at northern station hundred and 50 officers assigned to northern station amongst the hundred and 50 officers we have 27 patrol officers and 23 supervisors and managers some of the changes we've a maid to the northern station in the past 6 months and we'll talk about that the need because of increased crime that is occurred in the northern and throughout the city is we have expanded our street crimes units

from one team to 2 two sergeants and 10 officers working the street crimes making arrests for the crimes that occur in fact, we were asked about two or three hours ago in a crime that was currently we'll talk about as we move into the statistics i also have currently 5 investigators those investigate the crimes after they occurred and an increase of 56 in the next come up of weeks as the impeach has promote 55 new sergeants that will be hitting the streets in a week and a half i'm looking forward to that is very important not only to the officers response and address the crime your reporting but if there is follow-up to the crime we have someone to contact to make sure those crimes are prosecutor's office investigated what we've seen the biggest

change for staffing at northern station where we are now and where era few years ago in 2010 san francisco at northern station had a hundred and 25 officers and as you may know offer the past couple of years in 2011, 2012 and 2013 a number of retirements that occurred within the dwelling unit at the same time not occurring having the police academy classes take place so our staffing levels in the department were dramatically lower in the past couple of years through the help of the community fast forward the board of supervisors and the police commission and special the chief the board of supervisors decided we need more police academies and police officers their slowly coming back that which i came to the northern station in 2012 he had 90 officers that were working for me as you may know in 2013 it is 96 and went up to

98 now hundred and 20 officers we're back to where we were in 2010 but certainly better than where it was i suspect more officers coming to northern station as the class graduates and increasing our staffing due to the fact we've sfentd our boundary their national coming they're here again we talk about the demographics the officers at northern station the hundred and 50 we are about in line with the breakdown formaldehyde and female officers about 84 percent mall that r male and 16 messenger female i'm proud to say that the gifted of the northern station has changed quite a bit the the last come up of years as we are faced with

some of the challenges that the community twaukz us about when we try to better community policing a more responsive to the needs of neighborhood one of the questions that comes up i know comes up to the diminishes is it are the officers that are working at the station representative the community they serve and i've often said and talked to the chief and the expand staff i want my officers that work at northern station as as much as possible represent the community we were underrepresented with it came to women and african-american officers both men and women that were as i said to northern station i made an effort to talk with the conceive about the needs and thankful they've addressed those whether i came to northern station a couple years ago i had two

african-american male officers i have 9 that's gone up 4 fold i know that will continue and this is something the community it has asked for there is a recent articles about the lack of women and especially asian women in the department the chief can't take them from me i have 6 in northern station and it is very positive i got my first japanese female officer and we'll put her up in the scombravpt she's on application but the fact she's serving us at northern station is a bonus thank you to the chief we speak a number of languages e at the northern station their post it is representative of the needs of the community we serve

the officer at northern station as spldz training i want to talk brief about when i came to northern station 22 training officers now 36 we're training a number of officers that are coming out of the academy it is dearly necessary we have qualified and field training officers i've goggles enough officers to be involved in the program we've increased up to 36 and two officers recognized through recognize experts go out and assist with the analytics we have 24 officers trained in crisis intervention the chief talks about oftentimes how we approach someone who has a mlk issue not necessarily a danger to the officers how we work at creating time and distance between the champs we have and the crisis

intervention officers are the ones that have the skills and the ability to defuse the situation before that becomes a vibrant situation and a challenge for the departments because we are required to use force on someone that is otherwise just in need of some mental help we're at 21 and hope pend of the year having more and well above thirty one thing the department has done every class it grates they spend a week before they go out on the street with intervention training i assume every officer about continue and have that training bra they hit the street so we'll not have to pull the officers off the street for training and officers that are sauntsdz to

the tactical work at the station and house negotiators are out and have the ability to sought assist if there is a reason for negotiation we have 3 i'm happy with the specialized training and now want to move into the statistics in the northern district and this is through august of this year i think that northern station is most crimes if you compare them to the city are about on pace with the exception of property crime talk about vibrant crime especially in the northern that effects in the western edition we'll have 5 homicides this year so for of the 5 as you may know 4 occurred in one day about 4 blocks prosecute here in early january and one since i'm glad only one since but one is way too many when you look at where

we were in 2014 we're up by i know that 4 of those were as a result of one incident it occurred we're diligently trying to solve that crime and tips from the communities on that we spoke last workweek with the investor and they've made some positive strived stride in the investigation but it is still challenging at times to make the arrest they're asking for anyone within the community that has information to come forward that is what we believe will ultimately help us solve that crime as far as violate crime robs up 17 percent from the years but compared to emphasizing we're sixth down in robberies but there is a pike in some of the street robbers like iphones snatches and thefts of

items such a cameras and other stuff from tourists location some of the individuals that were out committing the property crimes cannot find a car to break in but use the opportunity to steal the items from tourists we're addressing that in uniform and street units property crime is the biggest increase in the paper it's been on guess news the chief as you talked about that is not just in the northern district but citywide as you can see we're up 41 percent of property crime and thefts from corrects vengeance we have a lot of areas that are popular for tourists it's become i don't know how it was the crime of the year because the numbers have skyrocketed we're doing a number

of things to address that i many a meeting last week with chief suhr and captain lazzaro and met with the district attorney and the board of supervisors we talked i talked about howe what we can do including armenian or working with the rental car agencies and attorneys with the individuals that rent them so that they don't leave their items in the vehicle i often educate the public not leaving things in our vehicle and seems to help with the residents it is difficult to get to the tourist and we are worked well with other city agencies especially rec and park to give you an example one the biggest areas of vehicle break in we had is in the marina directed at prevails of fine

arts it's a tourist area tourists leave their items in the car and they did get stolen an item from the individual they're not stealing just some simple but the hole life the luggage and parrots and very often the money he everything they came to enjoy san francisco we've worked dlil with that rec and park especially with the house of fine arts to putting up surveillance and asphalted cameras and palace of fine arts our be numbers are did you observe from the i was but more importantly our residents application has gone up we made an arrest 3 hours ago the cooperation of other city agencies this supportive especially, when it comes to educating the public about whatnot to leave in our vehicles

and the police department using cameras and videos to apprehend the subject but continuing to work on that this is a challenging thing i the other things we're working on the cooperation with the chief is working with the discussion with the district attorney and the judges keeping individuals arrested for breaking into vehicles been incarcerated longer and the average time someone serves in county jail is 16 days 35? 8 i saw the 3 and 5 but i wanted to be safe 8 days if you think about that it is very often those criminals are back out committing the crimes so we're working hard because he think that if you increase that incarceration number less likely those crimes will continue

we'll move on to traffic enforcement i know you had a presentation when traffic from commander maddox i'm proud of the efforts of the officers in northern station from the - england is green instead of red the biggest it thing we've done is vision zero is an important aspect of policing and we are really trying to do our part as little police department to get the number of fatalities in the city down to zero and besides there being education we know that enforcement is an community we must use when it comes to new officers at northern station and throughout the city we've focused on telling the officers that we want you out doing traffic improvement but be in the location the majority of

collisions are occurring and focus on what the 5 main collision factors are that contribute to collisions and for that year last year we were up 21 percent from the year before and this year we've raised if another 20 percent we've issued 41 percent of the citations are for the focus 5 the goal in vision zero has to get the station to 50 percent we have 9 more percentage this has increased the number is a god sent i'll tall one how we'll measure that >> the next thing i wanted to talk about is community engagement this is one the most important parts the presentation as we finish up during 2015 we've done a number of outreaches the community and engage with the community in things that are promoting the

police department and promoting community policing as we see that the first one was an emerging program for those who don't know it was probably 25 years ago when we have with the emergency program starts the recruits were in the academy and met with the public on different members of community and decided what the community policing and what do we do what would you like us to do as officers and spend time going over the challenges and after lunch get the recruits their babies not on the street seeing what it is that the communities needs from them when they hit the street so we participate in 9 program at northern and had a lunch in the western edition a restaurant on fillmore you know where it that we had two squads of officers

met with the community members and talked about the issues of the african-american we followed up with the meeting with the communities association on polk street with a dinner and all things that came out everyone of the members was a positive thing and for the officers that were out this in addition, we have our always working youth outreach question deal with our backpacking with mo' magic in august we gave over 2 thousand backpacks to the needy of the community and worked worked with the after school midnight baseball happening over at kimble player at the oh, is it key night we've been out trying to work with the communities so we can give them a reason to get together in the community in an

area and a focus of teamwork and athleticism and something ordinary person that what about negative when it comes so it is a positive thing when we expanded we took over kimball playground and the officers at northern station were overthrow to make sure we were visual presence so the kids were coming and going they were safe we've participated in i thought a beneficiary thing the mayors community safeties initiative there was a group of youth put together by the community and did a video some of you saw on tv i know the presentation was made to the commission they talked about what it is that they would like to see from community policing officers and from officers from the police department called community on the rise and i had

an opportunity to par take we talked about what we can do better as a police department and heard the questions and tried to answer them and the video was amazing we talked about what we were doing at northern station we've had community barbecues and continue to do them especially through mo' magic there is some programs we have events every weekend for a barbecue to barbecue for people and working currently on a change to the fillmore mini park a couple of blocks from here a grant that a group is applying to beautify the fillmore park it is an area that is welcoming to everybody in the community i wrote a letter last week and september it to the individuals that are going to be awarding the grant i told them that location is a prime location to make a change to the community

everybody ca was inclusive i'll hopefully, they'll be awarded that for a medicaid waiver park everyone in the community can go to we obviously talked about reading programs with sf save cops and kids and starting with program the chief rolled out we're going to go into rosa parks elementary school in the next few weeks and reading with a number of officers to the children at rosa parks elementary school the last thing for outreach is there are a number of churches that are here especially in the western edition i had some of the pastors contacted me asking what we can do to be part of the community one is beth he will church around the corner we've worked with them on a block party we've located everything

and had policing officers and also navigate i was 83 at the church last sunday and got to see through chillin' of 3 individuals it was amazing just to see the members of the public members of the communities it was a phenomenal thing to see we're working with her nameal brown with the baseball program on fire hydrants and sending officers to engage with the communities the way it is collaborative and in a fashion they might not northerly or normally see i'm happy we engage with the community in 2015 and continue in 2016. >> i finish up i want to talk about the goals of 2015-2016 this is my last slides i'd like to is is a 10 percent in crime those numbers have jumped i'm

confident they will go down we'll be out making arrests and better education but if we can get any decrease especially in the property crimes it will be a bonus at the end of this year we'll be looking to see where we ended up with the traffic collisions in northern district i've told my officers if we want to reach a goal we have to have some participation and some way to look and see if we have an input on the measurement we've issued a number of citations for vision zero focus 5 violations did it have a positive effect we'll look at the as we get to the end of the year training there is a number of training things i'd like my officers to be involved from the chief and i have talked about training when it comes to bias

training how to reduce those numbers it is only something we want to make sure our officers are in the first and foremost and making sure their acting in a way that is appropriate not bring our personal bias into the work that video the group did i required any lieutenant and sergeant to say show that to all officers it is 15 minutes they talked about wow, i didn't realize what we want us to do not wave out of window but get out of our cars and what are we doing that is wrong they want to be talked who to when in their not up to no good the video we as a department have strives we need to gain to get a better

relationship with the community we're changing some of the things we're doing at northern station when it comes to personnel for a number of years i've been asked which are you going to bring some additional officers in schools and working with the housing well, this has started and will continue we have in the last few months we've added one additional foot beat to the fillmore street sea they're responsible for everything from mcallister up to polk street and alexander two more foot beau's beats and putting one in the lower pong and in japantown the biggest thing i've said when i come to the meetings i think officers on the beat are an ideal community mrom needs within the department we've not had that abilities

i've felt bad i couldn't tell them they'll here and coming all i could say they're coming now i can say they're here and you'll see the officers on foot we'll be adding an additional school cart to the schools we are policing believe it or not because it is something that faces two additional outreach officers two we'll have 4 that's an issue identify received complaint and adding 4 officers to the public housing unit we currently have 4 we'll have 8 not only to keep the public housing safe but i utilize those officers for so much of the community involvement with the youth especially in the western edition and adding 4 more will not only be safer but involved in more things as well it is a change in the department

for us three years ago, i currently have a hundred and 20 patrol officers 40 of those 1/3rd have less than 2 and a half years if that was a beg change it is good and bad because we have so many young picks up trying to figure out how to policewoman in the city and but they also sometimes bring a different prospective on the needs of the community than officers that may have 15 or 20 years in i think that is a blekz they're here and while it can be a challenge they have a lot to learn and bring skills and abilities to the communities that the community needs with an openness for hearing with the community needs and accept from

our officers with that, i'm down with the presentation attorney-client and i'll be here throughout the meeting tends if the commissioners have questions if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them it is important for the community to hear the concerns for me to hear them from my officers, too, we have challenges we have to face especially in the san francisco throughout the country but we have a great department a very diverse department and one that is very involved in the community do we make maintenance we do just like you do we want to be better part of that we'll hear from you this is what they need from you and us helping us get those resources and thank you very much

(clapping.) >> all right. thank you captain move on to the next item if we have questions we'll circle back to you tell me 2 presentation of the body camera draft policy discussion so just to orient everything e.r. everyone to this process i think that may have been about may or june may the mayor announced what a number of the members of the board of supervisors my colleague karen from the district attorney's office hi cesarean so many familiar faces the city was going to put in this year's bucket to arm every police

officer with body camera a couple of questions okay body camera but a number of key policy decisions to be made when it is turned up on how long to keep it who gets to see it under the circumstances there are two things we know with the body cameras one it does show a reduction in the use of force by the officers and reduction in complaints it is something in that for everyone to get a policy that is sweeping that will be the new normal for policing in san francisco this is commission asked the department to put together a group of difference stakeholders to look at the issues and i think critically about that we're fortunate to have a working group and sxhooerpdz a

citizen in her group where some of them are here to share their phonetics or prospective open is policy a presentation from the command and walk us through through what the big issues that the group dealt with we had a meeting a couple of weeks ago you'll hear the issues and then we want to hear from everyone here about your thoughts on the issue we do bring entire presentations to the community for your benefit to sort start tracking the issues we hope you'll let us know they'll have an impact on all of us with that, commander mosser welcome. >> i have to - and sorry command can i stop i 20 have two

incredible gentlemen to my right commissioner turman and doctor marshall. >> from joe marshall been on the commission so long i forget but it's good to be back here in the northern district welcome thank you. >> sorry i was late i'm the vice president of the commission i'm not on doing commission work i'm an attorney with the law firm of breed smith downtown on the police commission and sat on the human rights commission good to be here what do you have to say we're interested in the body camera and especially with the public prospective of shaving i shaping the policies. >> my colleague commissioner dejesus. >> i want to hear everything you have to hear i have to leave

at 7:30ish we're interested 2, 3, 4 what we have to say here he apologize for having to leave thank you. >> okay now again commander mosser. >> the excision is very flexible (laughter). >> yeah on the screen.

>> good evening, commissioners and chief suhr and droiks and members of the public i'm commander bob mosser i'm here as one the co-chairs of the body camera working group to present an overview of the body camera policy and talk about the process that the group went though how we formed the group was formed how we went about our working groups and the methodology to talk about the key issues that we discussed during our meetings with the formulating of this draft policy to talk about some of the points where the

group didn't come to consensus we'll be more in depth prospective of points from some of the members of the group this really as mentioned by sxufz is a result of several weeks of very hard work put in by a diverse group of individuals that was put together at the direction of commissioner president loftus and the commission before we go on i want to point out our policy copies and copies of the power point in the back if you happen to get them you can foreperson follow along and several members of the working group i want to acknowledge their joyce hicks and mr. marty the president of the police officers association and teresa from representative

from the san francisco bar association, lieutenant mary kit of the san francisco police pride alliance and mr. williams of the organization fj and the peace officers association and jonathan you can't know from the police officers association and mann manny that worked on the policy and, of course, sergeant rachel killing shaw what was a valuable person in over-the-counter and keeping the minutes and keeping our minutes running smoothly thank you to the folk and their presents speaks to their dedication to the process and seeing this through through the public mayor edwin lee's so to an this year chief suhr and mayor ed lee and

commissioner president loftus announced that additional fund would be provided over the next two budget cycle to furniture body camera for 18 hundred member for the san francisco police department in the field on may 13th of 2015 commissioner president loftus directed the department to establish a working group for the purpose of having a draft body camera to present to the police commission within 90 days so the direction really was to pit together a draft policy to really come together to look at what we believe were the key components of the body camera policy and really to have the additional direction from the department toe vet those issues we felt were contentious we felt we may not come to consensus and provided voifz we were under a

strict timeline 90 days so it may seem like a a lot of time when you're trying to document a but a body camera it is not a long time we needed a lot of work in a short period of time next slide, please so on may thinking the working group was formed and that working group consisted of members of the san francisco police department that was myself, co-chair along with commander robert o'sullivan the commands of the eight distinction and chief ali of the bureaucracy and the group had representatives from the office of citizens complaints and the

mayor's office and the sf bar association the human rights commission the department of human resources a representative that commissioner president loftus was mention from this district, we also had members of the san francisco police department association a representative from the san francisco officer for justice and the police officers pride alliance and the national latino association and the asian peace officers association and one of the police officers association from the beginning we were instructed this is had to be an open and transparent a public process as much all of meetings were held in public and open to the public and open to the media, and all the materials were available so everything we did from our draft policies that we worked through, our minutes,

our agenda they were public documents that were published on the web available for anyone that comes to the meetings and obviously all the bhooegz recorded as a public process from the beginning next slide, please. >> on june 2nd we had our first working group meeting and we decided the following tongs so in order to tackle this large process we had to have a base to start with we came together or to the tackle with a working document we felt really had some of the main points of a body camera policy that we can start the conversation with that's a document that was dated as of upcoming on the screen may 28 work 2015 we wanted to look at other model policies out there

at the time and other reference materials to refer to we put out prior to the first meetings those policies and reference materials as you can see on the screen the open police departments and the lapd's policy and body camera policy in san diego police department policy and the aclu white paper about the policies and opinions and the department of justice model policy those are given to the group prior to the meeting to digest that and come to the table with a level of information a certain amount of information under our belts on the first meeting we talked about the first sections the policy we taunted the purpose of a body camera and what the policy is meant for we also talked about the use of

equipment how officers use that equipment and training how we'll formulate the training and the officers need to be trained properly and we talked about who was going to be ultimately the departments program administrator to run a body camera program we also scheduled regular moseying on the fierce meeting to comply with commissioner president loftus 90 day timeframe we have met every other tuesday generally two hours this will allows 80 us to meet the 90 day timeframe next slide, please on june 16th we had our second body one or more policy just to let you upcoming what we'll do as we went through the meetings and worked on specific areas within the policy we would make

changes we have subsequent new drafts we proposed that draft on the web and works off a new draft i that's the schedule the process that we even though set up going through the meetings we douftsdz the minutes from the june 2nd meeting and dlefldz into section 3 of the policies that talked about the setup which officers were getting the cameras and the procedures for making sure that it was working correctly and making sure if they were maintenance issues oozing how the officers handle that and talked about consent the idea of consent to film with the enabling of the citizens in the field and authorized use when the officers are authorized to use the cameras when in their prohibited to certain issues in

certain events. >> what when they turn off the cameras at the interpretation points. >> no. >> also on june 16th we had a discussion about two voifz regarding two basic schools of thought one was should the cameras be on all the time or the cameras only on certain circumstances the group thoroughly reviewed those and reaches did concurrence that officers shouldn't have to have their body camera on all the time the working group felt if we came up with very thought-out very specific instances when officers shall have cameras on and activated we came up with that group basically with

balance the privacy rights of citizens so we ca can have the function of having that camera on and capturing what is the important things to be captured and not run the risk of officers walking down the street on their day to day shifts with the camera running 10 hours a day i know twenty-four hours a day of officers just walking down the street. >> next slide, please. >> on june 30th we meet for the third time and worked on the changes from the previous meeting and talked about that partnership we went what can back and made changes if you look at the subsequent drafts online we changed our terminology in the policy if

affordable digit to grievous bodily harm it was more up to date with the terminology that is field was using at a time we talked about termination of reporting and the viewing of recordings discussion we had discussion on whether or not the officers will be allowed to view the recorded prior to returning to work this is at fierce area we didn't come to consensus on within the group that is part of when we were established as a working group we knew there would be areas we're not come to a consensus that's part of task to present the alternative views to the commission with had we present the final draft? one area you'll hear from a few speakers later on that represent

the alternative views vipts of whether or not the officers should be able to view the recordings before writing the police report in alternative virtues we provided a note section for the mroogs to refer to with the policy so those notes were provided to the commission along with the minutes for things in the minutes that really you could see the discussion that goes back and forth distinct the members of the group and the alternative voupts next slide, please. >> on july 14th we met and discussed procedures again viewing body camera recording and spent quite a few times on

this session and talked about documentation when officers activate a camera or turn the camera off what documents procedures they'll have to follow and talked about the storage of videos the use of recording how recordings and when recordings should be duplicated what the process and what is the process for distribution, how videos would be distributed not only to the district attorney but public defender and discovery process the retention times how long the video should be retained this is another area we didn't come to consensus on as a group there was feelings that originally our policy had recommended a one year retention time there were quite a few of the members of

the group felt a 2 year retention the important thing to remind with body camera retention time and storming time and storage time is costs is long that we retain and store a video the costs goes up exponentially we decided that prior to making a determination as to how along videos should be retained that a comprehensive cost benefit analysis will need to be done based on the camera system the city ultimately decides we're going to receive and what is in storage when those storage costs between one and two years in making that determination also on july 13th which was the day prior to this meeting he received a letter from the usf

regarding their thoughts on the body camera and the aclu was survived invited to be a member of the working group they're not able to sends a representative they didn't attend, however, sent a letter on the 13 and we placed it on agenda for the next meeting given the fact we received it the day before and wouldn't fairly have enough time to digest that next slide, please on the 28th the fifth meeting talked about the viewing the body camera recordings again and continue to the discussion of whether or not officers should see the videos before writing a police report next slide, please. >> we also discussed the all of

those letter a 12 page letter for the recommendation but one area that the group was particularly concerned with a assertion from the all of those they had not been transplant on an important issue the group took expectation we've been working a public process through the entire time with the meetings open to the public minutes, and all of the materials been placed on the web for you to see each week and met next slide, please on august 11th the fifth and

last meeting with the working group we discussed procedures with viewing the grievous bodily harm recordings as you can see that topic expand 3 meetings a lot of discussion two the working group and i imagine you'll hear from a few members of the working group in a moment we continued the discussion on what an immediate investigation would mean. >> how that plays identity in the viewing of the footage that is an area we didn't come to consensus with as well open what an administrator investigation meant and really what that meant in terms of officers being able to view video footage again both points of view were presented to the commission and in the minutes of the policy retention advanced e as i mentioned we talked about the

two year period and that we'll have to do the cost analysis prior to any kind of final policy next slide, please the office of investigator jell was issued prior to this meeting and director hicks brought it to our groups attendance the group felt that that policy should be forwarded to the police commission to include if their review packet when they get our documents we made a recommendation to d that as well the basically any changes that we made to the draft policy pop the final meeting we may during the meeting we agreed upon a new and final draft that was dated

august 11, 2014, next slide, please. >> on that date we voted as a group to forward you're working policy draft to the police commission and it was a unanimous veto as you can see on the screen the members who were present at the working group and as and mentioned that was an unanimous vote next slide, please so as i mentioned previously two areas we didn't receive consensus at this point, i'm going to call up members of the working group to discuss those areas that really the viewing of the video and the immediate investigation go hand in hand so at this point i'd like to invite director hicks to come forward and talk about the viewing of

these. >> thank you commander mosser good evening i am joyce hicks the direction of the office of citizens complaints and as commander mosser said i was a member of the body camera working group additionally occ attorney/client privilege ford attended and occ director eric balancing discharge attended the meeting but additionally in the audience is senior investigator dennis madison i saw him earlier he's here there is a member member of the audience who would recycle to talk about the occ complaint and i'd like to say good evening to commissioner president loftus and commissioner turman the police commission and executive

branch chief suhr and the members of the public i'd like to acknowledge commissioner president loftus that inched our working group as well the police commission to make sure we stayed on task i'd like to thank the body camera one or more camera working group which was co-chaired by deputy chief ali and captain moserer i'd like repeat names but commander mosser i take it been a pleasure and clooilg working with the members of the group and hearing one anothers prospective the office of citizens complaints also known as the occ was established by the san francisco charter section we investigate the citizens complaints of officers conduct and neglect of duty we make findings and forward those evidenced from the police chief or others for

discipline showing misconduct and neglect of duty if found pursuant the occ is to investigate the policies and practices that would be changed to amend unnecessary tension from the public while assuring police work we see our work a key policy area that the occ is working on this year considering the many points of view we reached consensus on all but two key policy areas which really merger both one policy consideration and under the circumstances under which an officer is preexcluded implicitly from viewing a video first and possess importantly the occ supports the

implementation of a body camera program as soon as it is practical body cameras can increase the other and transparent and achieve the conduct by citizens and police officers police departments have reports that body camera have reduced a number of prostitutes and use of force and ruled in criminal procedures and increased the ability between the police and the civilians in encounters when the occ supports the drafts general order on body camera we believe that allowing the officers to review the recordings during active internal investigations could interact the officer misconduct the drafts only preincluded them in advance of an interview for an officer involved shooting, in custody death or criminal

investigation the draft e negotiation o permits the officers to look at it prior to an internal investigation or an occ except under the earlier circumstances i discussed we have concerns with that an officer not intending testify in matters he or she did not see e.r. hearing hear could be unconsciously influenced by viewing the recording in advance in the words of new york police department quote allowing officers to review the recordings during active internal investigation oversight or inquires into the use of force can impact investigative integrity further quoting the speaker generals the grievous bodily harm harangue has no

limitations on focus, attendance or recognizing recollection and may capture events that the officers if preserve or observe are couldn't resembling recall exposing the officers to events which may or may not be privy to at the time of the incidents effects the ability of investigators to sense their con item reasons circumstances that led he or she to see the matter the occ recommends the following in addition to the limitation already in the draft e go around criminal investigations officer involved shooting and in custody death there go is additional language that provides which an officer it notified by the acknowledging that the officer is subject two or witness in a

misconduct investigation the officer not be permit to review the recordings in advance of the interview but avenue giving the statement the officer can be permitted to review the video and to avoid what some have referred to as a got you effect more importantly for fairness when determining inconsists i's should be reviewed under the materiality in non-disciplinary matters and not involving no idea death or officer involved shooting or criminal investigations when an officer prepares an narrative and he or she own words than the officer should prepare that in he or she own words before viewing the video and then be permitted to prepare a supplemental it is a practice

the la sheriff's department has is using with this body camera they determine better to have a written statement on a deputies recollection but other law enforcement agencies allow them to look at the recordings in advance and some departments require it to conclude i would like to thank our working group members and core members the san francisco police department the civics and city of san francisco and employees and most importantly the community members on our working group and as i said in previous meekly we didn't always agree but never disagreeable thank you all (clapping.) >> thank you, director

now at this point, i'd like to ask president marty in the patrol officers association to come forward. >> thank you commander nice to see everybody i'm marty the president of the san francisco police officers we represent apa all the members of the self-employed when it comes to wage and working rights this is a change in working conditions the biggest change in 40 years to thank the commissioners tonight and chief suhr and director hicks for your hard work and with me together from the office is sergeant in the back i wanted to do rather than repeat my presentation to the commission two weeks ago i'd like to bring up 34eb the san

francisco police department that and members those are front line working officers those are the officers that have that camera on them the first responders those officers that will will experience the body camera not the chief or the command staff in the administration but the front line officers whether they're responding to a call of a burglary at 6 o'clock in the morning or a shooting at 2 o'clock in the morning i'm going to bring them up shortly before i do that i want to touch on a couple of things there was a physician piece that was authorized actually yesterday and released to the poe and forwarded to and he building in the commissioners packet more today that was a physician piece from the you

university of southern california the school of law by professor dan simon a professor of law and psyche at ucla and usf and retired chief of police i believe the commissioners had this in their packet i only read this today for the first time and the recommendation from professor simon is that officers shall be allowed to view the footage before they prepare an incident report or give a statement especially, after an officer involved shooting or in custody death those are the two serious incidents an officer will deal with in their entire career they're not pleasance i was involved in one 12 years ago i was a afforded legal council

all the members will be before they provide a attempt as to the investigators the most nerve racking and horrific thing that an officer experiences and wants to do so i believe in the poe passionate position it is important to get this policy right this policy will be in place for the rest of my career and the officers here we need to get it right so i'm not opposed to work with the police commission and director hicks and the ucsf with the public defender's office we didn't always agree but important to continue down the road making sure that we get the best policy in place and if it requires review in 3 or 6 months we'll do that i'm not going to read the

entire letter from the professor number one allowing the officers to view the body camera prior to writing a statement to an investigator or prior to writing an incident report there is good reason to expect in the large majority of cases body camera one or more video forgotten about dramatically reduce dishonest roe vs. wade in media incidents the footage will show the proper review to make officers feel emboldened to present honestly and two lead to more accurate reporting a key way in which it impacts the reporting by enhancing the officers memory for critical incidents human memory is a powerful apparatus but has its limitations

number 3 lowering the incidents of misconduct crucially a good reason to expand a substantial drop in the incidents of unjustified use of force or misconduct there is no doubt the mere presence of body one or more video will have an impact think the officers accountability and their incurring behavior and finally number had the harm caused by distrust one must not ignore the detrimental consequences of deretrofit the officers pertinent fox and denying them will set them up for there is a comprehensive position piece i'll urge the commission to read

it and take it to heart i also wanted to point out a report that was done by the u.s. department of justice and co-authored by the research farm a 78 page report i believe the commission has a copy of this and this was released in 2014 after meetings were called and over a hundred representatives from a hundred agencies throughout the country were brought to washington and came out with that report i want to stress one thing in the report recording data assess and review this is the recommendation officers should be permitted to review video footage of an incident in which everyone they were involved prior to making a

assessments rational is reviewing the footage will help officers to remember the incidents and ladies to more accurate documentation of events the goal to find the truth of the matter it is facilitate by the officers having the information from the incidents the realtime's recordings is the best evidence and often provides a more accurate record than an officers recollection that can be affected by stress and other factors if a jury or administrative review bodies seize the report says one thing and the video indicates another this creates inconsistent that might unfairly undermine the officers be credibility i'm touching on those pieces and reports as i said before the commission i

believe that everyone in the room and every police officers wants to submit the most complete, accurate and thorough report and that the policy within the sfpd officers shall go out and on the video of my type of crime and look at that video prior to completing an incident reporter we believe this is the best practice and should remain and eventually be adopted by the police commission now rather than hear my prospective as a labor leader in san francisco i've asked the vice president from the santa fe police officers association james gonzales to make a short presentation tonight james santa fe pd has the body cameras in place so i want the public and commission to hear how that policy has been successful in

santa fe. >> hi my name is jane kim gonzales the vice presidents of santa fe ppo i've been a patrol officer for noorn years this is remarkable showing so many people are here tonight this is a time in our country and communities brown where law enforcement issues are taking center stage there is terrific tragedy that happened there's been mistakes there's been crimes condominium by law enforcement officers it is time we need to look at the way we do things and law enforcement is a profession we're constantly strive to achieve a better path be towards truth of the matter and justice in the criminal justice system all of you being part of that is really, really important

body cameras are one product that is comes from the contestants any policy changes there are going to be make us do a much better job i'll talk about allowing officers to view footage or not have incidents that happen why offices should view the video or not in different cases is the best practice has been larger decided the department of justice and is la police commission adapt a policy that allows officers to view it, it is a common sense issue a few agencies that are not following that best practice but by and large you'll see law enforcement and oversight groups like the department of justice that recommend you go aggressive changes in the way of local jurisdictions police their communities taking a position

there is only one time an officer should view the footage we're seeking a better justice and we're going to get that by allowing the officers to view the footage as an advocate i assume are for judged and for police accountability having police wear body cameras is a tremendous win throughout the rift history of the law enforcement the large amount of documents is a police officer testimony as being the largest piece of evidence in the report and having that now a video to accompany that to make that more accurate is undoubtedly going to improve the justice in our country and here it is a good thing certain none wants to have a video camera recording everything but it is the appropriate time and make law

enforcement a more just institution and criminal justice system close a busy gap in chief of police true generous i think in some ways our focuses have been distracted a success story if santa fe and san francisco where you have a police officer association that have endorsed body cameras and the department-wide politicians and xooefz who are trying to implement those as fast at&t's as practical and for a community a justice in this community and santa fe improve tremendously because of that i would caution you know some groups who have sort of a conflict of interest in oscar pistorius the officers being able to view the video if you're a litigant or someone

like that has an obligation to the individual client and not to the justice system putting someone in the situation situations and make them write a report and not let them view the report there will be mistakes in the litigation world the threshold for conviction is preponderance of the evidence; right? so if you are a lit gator your best chance of winning a cast is casting doubt that someone was dishelicopter or a policy violation if you force someone to write a report before allowing them to watch a video of what occurred i i have to tell you this will not match up when you sue certain this will cast dough that is really with what some people want to do

i watched the video from my best friends wedding i if recall how it happened i think there is many, many times we are videotaped and if you're asked to recount allowing that officer to view the video is the best practice and not oath side to that when we discussing the use of forces and a or complaints thousands and thousands of complaints against officers officers or officers are not all of a sudden treated as a criminal offense needs to be investigated thoroughly but keep our focus did the police officer act properly was squeamish force uses those will be asked in a report and system that is more accurately reporting from the beginning officers just like to listen to

recordings and review all evidence before preparing a report is really common sense quite dragging an combraermz are very important i want to say that the answers to many of the problems many of the issues we have are not going to be solved with body cameras there be solved with innocent what you did by coming here that's getting into an environment with the police and the communities can talk to each other and respect each other and get to know each other this will move us forward and bridge that gap in your system we're doing this innocent. >> thank you again for showing up he being part of we don't agree on each policy issue thank you very much (clapping.)

. >> commissioner president loftus i had a few members in the po a that wants to take a couple of minutes. >> just have 3 more slides to get through real quick and wrap up the presentation you heard kind of a samples of two schools of thought or viewing or not viewing the footage prior to writing the incident reports we this was a similar presentation that was made to the police commission when had present it so the members of the public and commissions could hear the two school of thoughts next slide, please on september 2nd the group formally

he presented this and in reviewing that policy and going through that with the commission there were several areas within the policy that the commission raised concern or had additional questions on those sections included regarding the authorized use of cameras whether or not the policy should direct officers to activate the body camera specifically direct them prior to the list of circumstances or shall turn the cameras on, whether or not vehicle prostitutes should be included and whether or not the officers are to make notifications to the citizens the cameras are on next slide, please and in addition there were southerners regarding the retention times we've covered previously and public records regarding the sunshine ordinance

and the possibility of adding language within the policy that identifies circumstances which the cameras will be released to the public and finally there was a question we'll talk about whether or not consequences should be written into in policy that oil the compliance with the policy and the termination of recordings being more specific about the circumstances of when an officer can terminate the recording with that, that concludes my presentation. >> sorry okay commander and yes. >> thank you. >> absolutely everyone who came we want to hear from you also we'll have the commissioners come up we want to hear from the working group and members from the piano and i thought that that was

dinner time we want to hear from the few weeks we want to make sure we get to hear from we have been supervisor president breed is here and thank you, very much we keep on coming back. >> i got to go, too. >> dr. marshall has a leaf if we could have a line okay. if we can have folks line up and speak in public comment i'll kim kick it over to the gentleman some folks given we want to make sure we hear from everybody we'll shift into public comment so sergeant, next item. >> >> item 3 public comment the address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda within the jurisdiction of the commission. timeline right lanes any

individual and the police department should refrain from debates or discussions with the speakers during hold your comments to minutes, pleas2 mi >> good evening ms. brown and welcome. >> i'm here concerning my son murdered august 14, 2018, to a semiautomatic gun thirty rounds of bullets left that gun to my son only 17 years old to this day 9 years no closure for me

his case is not solved i come here and talk about that all the time i'm not shamed i'm continue to do this for the rest of my life it might seem redundancy that's okay it's my child i talk about guns guns and always say firearms are the third leading cause of killing our children ages one to 17 years old those guns are killing our children people are trying to open up shops to fix guns i left city hall and daily city yesterday opposing the person of a gun shop on mission street lucky we were able to have him not open up his shop maybe he'll

say now but i bring that up because those guns are killing our children there are so many unsold homicides i carry those pictures of unsolved homicides mothers go to city hall to protest about our children we need closure for our children we put a band-aid to give jobs sending those people to work they can't think base that is a mlk. >> thank you ms. brown. >> homicides is a mlk issue you if anyone has any information there's an unanimous tipline (415) 575-4444 thank you ms. brown. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening including but not limited to a trashing i didn't a sergeant with the

stopped i work in the bay area district i'm the sergeant of public housing one of two 8 officers on my side and f toshgs wish t 0 the issue of body camera they're a tool for us to be better there's a tool to make us better writers to get the story right we train and train a lot in the police academy we are voodoo a video as asked to write what happened and we didn't get it right i'm assuming the simulation training and present with a scenario and you went through that and at the end they asked you what maepdz maybe you got it right maybe 95 or 90

percent, 80 well, we have the ability to get it hundred percent right to view the video especially something we've done i did not come two the police department to take anyone's life i came to help a nature san franciscan this is where i grew up and played and hampton and new work at the bay area bayview and see a lot of thing in the bayview believe me those body cameras will make us better to police officers and your before that accident better and lower complaints better our behavior because yes some of us probably needs to better our behavior but there are a tool a tool we need. >> thank you so much sergeant. >> next speaker did i hear you're a lieutenant now. >> we widow a big problems. >> good evening and random w

welcome. >> commissioner president loftus commissioner turman, mroogs and director hicks and chief suhr i was fortunately a representative the san francisco police officers alliance i was fortunately asked to be a member of the working group and i learned so much from i've never been a part of progress but hope to be part of another process again and writing our policy it was very, very good i'd like to speak to you from the heart we daily go to stressful situations and certain things that happen to our bodies and minds our scope of vision narrows our hearing gets muscled, our time

perception is distorted this is not just an officer involved shooting or serious vehicle accidents are critical incidents this happens as a member of the - this can happen at a dngs anytime we're under stress which the adrenaline is pumping all those factors happen we want to get it right. i was taught for the last 23 years to write the most complete and accurate police report if you're offering mia tool that will allow missouri me to do a better job to accurately report them i want to make sure i have an opportunity to do that for you and the public i want to say

thank you for offering this to us and thank you to the working group thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> good evening sergeant welcome. >> good evening president and the economic development commissioners chief suhr and command staff and the acceptance citizens in san francisco i've been a member of the san francisco police department for 26 years an advocate for my communities pea my people i want to say first of all, body cameras will help officers and citizens maintain their dignity the permeate or camera will assist me as a supervisor to handle situations early on officers don't wish to be deceptive in their police report and historically within the

police report we have based our documentation on the policemen perception and notes hover with the body camera we're going to be brt to build our reports on what accurately happened at the scene the adrenalin we get every single no matter how minor sometimes results in visual distortions and sound distortions and time distortions we need to be priority with every possible evidence this is available to us so we can record and documents the best police report to insure you get the conviction you so stiffer we're now 4 hundred officers detain for you to say we'll not be able to view the recordings and instead wait until we write the

first report then view is and write a supplemental about tie up the officers time and take us off the street the black and brown community drivers better we deserve to have a complete full report the first time so when the chief coyotes to address the public he's telling you exactly what happened based on the videos available to us - >> thank you. >> mutual respect thank you very much. >> thank you accessibility. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening my name is officer brian currently assigned to the san francisco police department southern applicant district been with the depth of the years last year a field training officer after is recruits went but to cold report that happened the

night before or an accident or any incident when they are ready to write the report i ask them have i gathered the all the information. >> what do you mean. >> z did you check for video cameras. >> most of them as a yes, it's our job to gather all the necessary information talking with the witnesses or the fathoming to see if we can get all the facts onto the reports right then and there i can tell you from first hand experience responding to calls a dngs call and i come first think seen scene with with multiple people boyfriend or girlfriend or husband and wife accusing one another of something in their irrational and angry dngs calls report we write there are

specific forms to fill out additional to regular polyesters specifically are persons did he mean we fierce come on scene that person that called 9-1-1 can be a victim or suspect can tell you information 15 years when we have them calmed down they can be giving us a completely different story for us to view the fathoming is crucial to report and the investigation to whether or not someone is booked that night or released depending on data information we gather from interviews or the victims thank you very much. >> thank you, officer thank you for being here. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening my name is (inaudible) thank you

it is very interesting why we decided right now to you talk about the cameras or something like that it is two reasons first of all, around the war the united states image is slow down what is going and come police the main point in every country is this government and pagers and similar sound-producing electronic devices are prohibited at this meeting. police but i'll say different police and government the main point of people in russia it was the kj b and german gestapo they're the main points how they push their peep that's why we're talking about the achievement and come to the united states and g can i say around the

wormed image dune completely down we don't talk about that this year that is very interesting you know the statistics says is uk in 20143 shots in the people on the street 3 united states made millions okay millions and every shot is skilled i don't know how many from the streets was the right shot but 3 shots in ukraine example you can k i'm sorry. i'm from the ukraine by way of i'm a deaf person police came to my home 6 police for this man

okay throw me out imagine at 12 o'clock at night put me on the streets. >> thank you, sir good evening your time is up thank you. >> yes. okay. >> thank you. >> next speaker good evening and welcome. >> good evening. i'm ma led reigning thank you for giving me this time to share body cameras for all cops the facht police alleyway pull out all the stops we'll see an up sunday morning there is be cop massacre and cop tattoos for eye liner in blue and shoe shiners

that will be on the scene with cameras looking sharp and good for us working up or a sweet found new lover they'll discover including all brothers and sisters perhaps we'll get better pictures of the hypocrisy pretty much run by bar lawyers and others supported by nonprofit churches more accurately those who do not a lot of one another as the 50 one c-3 the thaepgs as ruled this nation unless we forth the first responder fathers rould rolled we've yet to service the constitution of the united states god damn all allusions

all might i didn't warriors be we not a penny to the system and go listen to santana's see aaron freedom to fauchl as we withhold the alleged property tax now as the sheriff's arrest the lawyers and permissions you know the professionally liars that serve themselves with the morticians we initiate will line up on the screen side of the room. >> i have to stop you. >> thank you your times is up to so much good evening. >> next speaker. >> i thought that was a great poem good evening and smile you're on candid camera can you

imagine for one minute when into consideration callahan would say about those lawyerly imposed cameras i can in california 90 thousand law enforcement sheriff's and police departments that 35 percent with corrupts. >> 35 thousand bar association and associated with 3 to 5 percent doing the best the police chief said the lawyers are on, on is thumbs up department although many conceive the cameras desperately seek to control and the more you grip the more sands goes through this is your fingers how about cameras for lying lawyers and judges i like sheriff richard

making the community is first and the cities are first and is property tax i'm not sure you want to know 38 they want to take the money they won 0 thousand 7 hundred and 20 goes to the feds and their lawyers are we nuts it's time to cut the cord of over sub certainty slave ship to 9 bar association and is one percent law enforcement is the true party they need to stand up together united nations and say we've not putting a penny and binge begging you are in case lives you'll keep the money to distribute it for the law enforcement and the children and the homeless vets and in that direction the fed is american people illegal bar for one thing that

killed kennedy and lincoln thank you, thank you sir, your time is up. >> your time is up, sir your time is up we want to make sure we get to everybody. >> next speaker. >> go ahead same amount of time welcome. >> your time is up. >> can you hear any sxhufz and commissioners droiks my name is sergeant skooltd a midnight supervisor a member of the san francisco police department for 17 years the majority time on parole on the issue of body cameras and whether or not the officers should review the footage prior to making a statement or writing a report the only reason not to allow only to have that got you the review the footage can't change what occurred what the

camera xauchdz report wrifrg is one of the most important activities they provide every crime and identity the parties and evidentiary issues and document the policy and procures it is therefore important that the reports are accurate and complete and others spoke to the special situations in which you have tunnel vision or favorable disassociation but in non-stressful full we rely on memory and assistance tools for example, i have carried throughout my entire contractor a career a brown notebook we refer to the cat computer and ascertains videos and it go be

absolutely ludicrous to have an officer not referring to their note back the cad or photos if an incident yet have an officer wearing a camera and expect them not to look at the camera didn't make sense the body cameras have context provide the technology officers need to provide the necessary inspection for that footage sir, your time is up. >> thank you. >> good evening and welcome thank you. good evening commissioners and once again on behalf of mo' magic thank you to commissioner president loftus and expanding r captain for contributing to the program quite frankly body cameras are a state of the art not only to give the offers a better vantage

point in general just better training but, of course, to give the public the prospective of trust building more trust between communities like i think all brown and black should be pained as criminals i believe that all officers should not be painted as corrupt and i think that the balances the scales and i definitely think that the offices should have a chance to review first, because if i had a body camera i'm thinking about buying on my daily life going to the chris pie cream doughnut shop i shouldn't i think the officers have right it is justice across the board for those who are behind the badge i know that officers should have that opportunity to review that as well and, of course, just evidences in general and going back and i think suggestion with

the conditions as far as keeping the footage it should don't think the type of footage a traffic stop delete it within a short timeframes but more serious something you should consider keeping long term so it depends on to me on what the video is about, as far as, how long to keep it but i'm okay are the policy i wish you guys well as you build the most initiative department. >> thank you. >> good evening welcome. >> hi ucsf all of those of california i'm to speak on one issue the popular issue of the night review of footage before writing an incidents for one

cameras record only certain angles and going into writing a reports not knowing what exactly was captured provides a healthy way to report the truth but officers reviewing the footage see some of the elements they were concerned about and stuff they need to explain were captured in the video and don't exclude that in the report we need to look at that we can't look at past ways of gathering information such the notebook in the pocket videos are a deft ball park you report indifference when our watched and how you respond to an investigation i want to point out the letter that we provided to the working group was not

only by the all of those and color of chunk those are critical community partners body cameras offer an opportunity 101 for rebuilding the trust and the notation the police can alter their investigation eliminations the opportunity to build that trust and show the accountability we're striving for whether or not an officer actually lice or miss directs in their report of investigation the perception is there that perception will impact the policy seeing that as an opportunity for accountability or police cover up this is a real concern thank you. >> thank you very much for coming good evening. >> and well. >> thank you very much i'm john, i live here on hazel street in the senior member of

hayes valley and a senior member of pedestrian safety citizens advisory committee i appreciate the work in the words i've heard in the room about the creation of that commission the working group that was in june, and the word that are captain greg thank you very much for related to the direct role of the board of supervisors particularly for seniors and people with disabilities cameras will assist officers to thoroughly vet the situation and rnth on how to interpret the condition of who their implicit because of people with millennial's the news i heard the number of officers that will be engaged in team train will go up because what we heard in the

news and the agendas for we're representing to represent them in the supreme court decision that the officers were not at fault that can be tolerantly prevented by having more training on officers and the tool of the camera with them will lead inform more inclusive analysis of the situation ♪ room and also as my church at the corner of polk and bush street this summer and disseminat disseminated instruction sheets how to call in my new when someone is in a mental illness crisis to call for an officer this is disseminated and offered by the nation we in the communities are engaged with the relationship with our commissioners and may continue an through millennial's public

safety >> thank you, mr. lowell i have the unfortunate job of cutting people off but the rules are to apply. >> i'm to be here foreclosure for a while oar i am bryan i support sfpd's position to allow the officers to have you body cameras to assist them in preparing their reports there's an upside in lingus the officers to prepare their reports the reviews will insure garage accuracy i'm afraid ever of the sort of got you he's now going to court and a correction the case gets thrown out i'm afraid of him been disfranchised as a young police officers and going to jp morgan that's what i'm

afraid of a third generation good koch i want him to stay that's it. >> thank you, brian. >> good evening a member of the working group yes. >> i'm teresa i was part of the working group i wanted to emphasis emphasize a few things and promote i'm the last person to speak one the topics the got you momentum i want to say none in the working group those are of us who this as director hicks mentions should building that police officers should not review the rogers and very limited circumstances never thought discuss the got you moments quite frankly it is somewhat offense because as you may know i've been a defense attorney for many years we came

thinking those limited instances where officers shouldn't review guarantee we wanted to get them in court or catch them this is about accountability and transparency protecting officers and protecting the public in making sure that in those limited circumstances and that's the key only where there is an officer involved shooting where there's a in custody death or whether the officer is a witness or is the subject of a misconduct investigation is for those members of the working group perhaps not appropriate for the officers to review the recording before writing he or she report certainly after the writing give a supplemental if necessary if you have expert testimony or a those folks who are very well versed and experts in the area

would suggest there is a potential of tainting the statement not intentionally monopoly is suggesting the misconduct on the officers part but the human part you think you've found something i want to emphasis there are 3 limited circumstances. >> i'm sorry. >> it is pie role tonight. >> so thank you so much. >> further public comment there hearing none public comment is closed. >> in my colleagues have a chance to ask questions i know there are members of the working group i want to provide that opportunity for folks might have questions for captain moserer or others i'll open up for the commissioners. >> thank you. i want to ask a

q question she's on board i know professor young from the public defender's office told us at the last commissioner meeting it was her recommendations to set up the multi tier process officers taking rounded reports can review the video before writing the report but it is sort in the other incidents the officers under a sort of a quasi investigation whether an allegation of force her position i guess representing of public defender's office they'll ask the officer not to view the video i think that's what you said i want to make sure it is that the position of entire working group. >> maybe this is a consensus no situations whether; right the officer is a witness or victim and he or she is perceiving or

involved in an events where he or she is a victim just recording what a victim of american people auto burglary or responding to a 0 dngs where the victims or witnesses are reported this is different than a situation why an officer hoichl is a victim or a witness actually some point credibility is going tobacco at stake it really protects i suggest that a lot of people in the field expert quilts is it protects the officer bus it is his or her recognize we want to know about it is the recollection and that's why as director hicks pointed out the nypd report thought after that program had been implemented and they

audited it and in that he reports if i'm not mistaken came to us late in the process so you know that was their recommendation we do well to study that and consider. >> i believe that was also mr. young referred to at the last meeting. >> it seems to me last week in the 8 or 99 incidents rotators everybody say the officers should review we're only talking about limited case. >> that's right and marty has a good point with the others point too yookz i've served as a investigator on officer involved shooting and responded at 2:00 a.m. to a officer involved

shooting case the polyesters san francisco have number one involved shooting at the time of shooting the issue was if you don't let the officers view the video prior to giving a statement the officers will not give me that volunteer statements it make sense to me as a prior defense attorney they'll choose not to give the statement that can't be useful in the investigation; right? >> i correct me if i am wrong i believe the officer is given a waiver if i'm being correct so. >> they can be right now this is only if they received did volunteer statement a - >> so the chief doesn't have a

mike the chief disputed that point im. >> you want to get a mike chief we want to hear from i. >> helpful to understand those issues. >> police officers like everyone else in the united states are allowed the fifth amendment against self-incrimination understanding the police officers can't refuse a statement ordered to and give american people interview with that said, whatever comes the live statement will not be in mind in court but the members of the san francisco police department have given a volunteery statement there's no need to compel the statement which means it could be later my

mind into evidence. >> later. >> did you have further questions. >> that's he is tension he see there. >> thank you, chief. >> i don't time to quite frankly not in a position to dispute that but i'm not exactly insuring sure from the officer is going to be potentially involved in a criminal investigation he gives is given the live bar waiver correct and no, he inrevokes. >> right but i mean police officers we deal with advise our officers to evoke so he or she didn't lose their job so the statement is not used against hearing impaired in a prosecution. >> it is better if i make you understand. >> so we'll take that piece offering but the commission is

saying a tension of the unintended consequences does anyone have a question for this are we good questions for marty from the piano. >> marty i'd like to you clarify one thing i'm not exactly sure what it say, i feel you'll tell me. >> i wanted to clarify and echo are commissioner wong said two weeks ago i laid out a couple of scenarios an officer who is not i'm sorry an officer who is compelled to provide a statement after an officer involved shooting or in custody death that statement can't be used against them in in fact any type of criminal conduct the histories as long as api i've been in the plod 15 years the

officers are given a voluntary statement that's been the policy but if we are now not allowed did view the body camera view prior then our attorneys will more than likely advise our members not to give that voluntary statement i don't want to see that happen and turn bad actor the clock other restrictions eir agencies like lapd they'll take over the investigation as opposed to our homicides which don't does an exceptional job with other agencies conducting that as far officers are not lout to view the view it is going to be forced on i a the administration that's not what we want to see

and not the members deserve or the public deserves. >> thank you, mary i didn't thank you, colleagues other questions for the champion or excessive or the members of the working group? okay. well, i, see this policy is actually, only 6 pampers page it enrevokes the issues that has sweeping issues we are declaring to get through we're grateful for everyone on the working group you've spent our time and continue to communicate with the folks website e-mail us if you were not able to be here he guess i'll ask accenting >> adjournment action time. >> colleagues a motion to adjourn. >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> we're adjourned. thank you

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