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>> started please turn off your cell phones or keep them on vibrate two a speaker on an item or part of public and want to speak an, an item please fill out a speaker card i'll call think you. >> please step forward when public comment is open. >> thank you it sfgovtv and media services for showing this meeting live to the public overtime we met let's start with roll call commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner moshoyannis commissioner caminong commissioner president tan we have quorum we were right given notice that commissioner frost and ohio the first item a public

comment on any item pertainably to the straefks you don't see agendize any. new if so it later you'll come later but something you don't see on the agenda but we need to know this is your chance not seeing any, public comment is closed. item 2 a review and that places you under from august 18th and september 15th i believe there is one change commissioner lee would like to point out and make tuesday september 15th item e the restaurant i recused myself i voted yes, please correct that >> did you catch it crystal any other edits or changes inform either set of minutes?

if not happy to entertain and motion >> because i was absent one and not the other maybe split them. >> the motion - >> i'd like to make a motion to bifurcate the minutes. >> second. >> a motion to beautify commissioner moshoyannis sxhoig commissioner president tan all right. let's go ahead and take the first one which was august 18th i move to approve. >> second. >> there is a motion and a second any public comment on the minutes all right. let's take a vote. >> commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner moshoyannis abstain sxhoig commissioner president tan the motion passes let's move on to september 15, 2015.

>> i move to approve. >> second. >> a there is a motion and a second with the corrections made earlier any public comment? ? all right. seeing none, let's vote >> commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner moshoyannis commissioner caminong commissioner president tan. >> that motion passes too so the minutes are set thank you very much let's move on to item 3 the report from the executive director and our staff. >> good evening commissioners a few things to report on the first under the heading of the legislative update is a new piece of legislation i have one copy here we know send anyone a copy if they want it was introduced les last tuesday but supervisor wiener's it has a substantial reform to a ab

school committee it stands for the enter departmental staff on transportation the body it meets to close streets and so as i said for years we've been a seated member on ab scott and it is being examined and this legislation will pretty much make some reforms and in a nut shell you'll accepted to anyone it is keeps ab school would on the mta that's the deal the membership remains, however, they are in this legislation requiring all the agencies that do sends members send specific members that are supposed to attend the same members, if you will, of the same department not who is available it also adds

for seats four seats to whom are folks recommended to bikes and pedestrian issues that have not been represented and seat 10 is a understanding the perspectives of the entertainment commission industry appointed by the board of supervisors and the seat 11 is organizing a temporary event appointed by the board of supervisors it is age different it is typical been staff leveled bureaucrats sittings around talking about the kinds of permits required once a ceqa is the key as a rule sort of overlay of the commission like appointment process although ross are not chapter commissions seats they do go through appointment in the

rules committee and sit as volunteers essentially no monetary pay back but it is interesting it is sort of maybe weighs heavily so people understand the activities going on in the streets like fairs and festivals you're smiling. >> i love it. >> it is very interesting and also requires minutes to be kept and quorums to be met and annual report to be issued it is asking for more affordability i think essentially and it is requires there to be a new chair at least every 5 years so it is in its thirty day wait period and likely heard anothers gao or something i'll keep the commission informed and as far as those two new seats we'll be

asked for input in terms of folks predicament for those seats. >> a quick question did supervisor wiener's office identify a problem or series of problems that that was somehow adding. >> yes. it is a simple answer and i'm bet if you explicit talk about it at introduction he'll do see when it is the first committee hearing as far as that it is certainly some discomfortable in his office about coming two consistence would respect to other outcomes again we've been sitting for years on it and sent consistent members to it and you know everyone has a different opinion that is the best thing to say at

this point so any event it is interesting i don't know from the ends will impact events but there you have it. >> i wanted to give the commission age follow-up it on the last concert at at&t we spent quite a few of the of times ac/dc was september 25th i--i don't know if anyone heard that the precisely outcome we received 10 complaints through 311 and directed to the office just about the same pretty sure kind of outstanding twhern told we didn't get the details but the giants send the specifics around the hotline the number was 40 calls to the hotline 5 of these were the media so there

was a lot of outreach done per the permit conditions in addition, we as an agency set up our own next door account so we could push this information out i think the giants worked extra hard and had consultation we're waiting for the outcome of that charles consultation but maybe it was noticed maybe they did something to tweak the sound we don't know but not a bad outcome the neighborhood heard it no question but we didn't have a repeat of bouncing that was what i was hoping for . >> when the ones it came in were the same that came in billy joel. >> i didn't compare i don't know the answer it is the same

neighborhood not necessarily the same people. >> okay. >> so i believe that the balance the concert this year if i see any other public concerts we would have heard by now but next year be back no doubt a ballot measure regarding a the points i can hear the concert if you want to go to a concert so development and live potentially happened based on the outcome of the november election so things will change pretty rapidly. >> do we know how much housing it as mixed use is isn't it. >> yes. >> it is a retail. >> i think it is not 0 residential. >> may not be a residential but hotel use substantial

going to be really interesting okay moving on i want to update the commission on the parklet policy section that began unfortunately at the at&t a meeting with robin he get ill so we'll reschedule i mean, i'll come back with similar information on that i'll skip over the transit update i'll call up bonito give you an update we started hand 80 that out thank you i've given this update to the folks just hand those out on the pipeline project so the chapter one 16 we've completely that and let the commission know we'll have successfully just want the department and the first letters

are out in the pipeline on september 29th is this is a copy of one of them if you're interested basically hundred projects in the pipeline that needs project sponsor to communicate with our department three hundred feats of the within the treatment and hopefully those project sponsors will be notified and the clock will be ticking and we'll determine by our policies whether we're here them at committee or no need to do that that is good news that's moving ahead oh, yes, so lastly for me, i think i'm not sure i did this the last meeting but a presentation about the

entertainment commission two weeks ago ago i think that was and it was interesting we hadn't done a lot of collaboration with the arts commission we're not they think we're the film commission we're not but in some cases don't know what we do it is a good experience we did a power point with maggie their visual people for the most part and hopefully, we've continue to work together and in particular on one project that the mayor has district the arts commission and ocii which is the old redevelopment agency to look at it and find space for artist and musician housing so it is something that we've talked about in this commission and sort of vague terms for years and the mayor again gave a

directive to those two agencies and when i heard about it i asked strongly that we get involved and try to you know help in any way we could there is early on in the stages looking for other cities that have similar kinds of projects but i hope the that that was one of the big outcomes of this beginning to collaborative and the other one like i said, the street perform problem we say we can't- the solve maybe with the street arts program those are the two ways concrete we can work together. >> there was a project that came before us i think that was building please help me remember open sutter street they were going to provide some housing in

a building that race residential stereos duo do you remember. >> it was music fitting. >> i know and it is still there it is not housing like i'm talking about like it is more like hospital he will dormitory touring musician housing for when your gang. >> so really the most active part in music city is the first floor and the blow which is the rehearsal space very tuff active they're trying to finish the first floor and second floor and finish it like cafe space that is not done and those rooms upstairs again is not really

housing like permanent housing. >> thank you so i'm going to ask ben. >> one other quick question the street performs issue did they take that up or find that of interest. >> they didn't discuss it probable of things agendizeed we're trying to reform reform their center arts program started in the 70s with no change they have a consultant do a study and a second round of sort of analysis on the outcomes and see they were hesitant at the moment to sort of figure out where we fit or the street performs fit i'll keep pushing the issues. >> this is a good opportunity

if their rising it. >> great that's what i said. >> okay thanks. >> good evening benefit from the office of economic workforce development just i think providing a brief updates on the late night transportation as you may know the san francisco entertainment commission and office of economic workforce development the first meeting in june of 2014 we releases a report that included 15 recommends or strategies for early and late night and the work population that traflgz late night and early morning on the job were 5 next steps we're currently pursuing implementation of we held our first meeting since the airports release it was well attended we continue to have

strong collaborative participation by the transportation partners it is great director cain handed out a 57 next steps and posted on night sf.org the tack away we're fortunate to receive budget money thanks to supervisor wiener and to pursue a number of avenues at the same time, we're continuing our patterson or partnership with the county transportation authority and engaging with consultant to push forward a number of the initiative at the same time luke incomprehensive at the service early and late night to noosht better education about service option really a number of exist things that are going to happen we hope to have significant progress on all those bin the

end of the fiscal year and at the same time continuing to convene the working group on a quarterly basis the next meeting is december second 3:00 p.m. in 421 if anyone is interested we'll be doing quite a bit of work i'll be happy to answer any questions. >> i wanted to say knowing how government normally works it is slow and snail's pace you guys have done an amazing maturely works and seem to be continuing to move forward about results and probably in my lifetime i'll see that happen i'm very encouraged i think your working group is doing on amazing job. >> some of the things the late

night pilot they've worked on before we got started and additional work additional oil service locally we supported the transbay agency took the lead we're fortunate to have a collaborative relationship a quick question on number 2 the pilot program you mentioned two are corridors are planned for having those to been identified or two be identified and in the hope is that through the ref process stockholders will come forward and say this corridor is one we have a lot of late night travel we want to work with the businesses and communities we're very open yeah cool thanks. >> so possible future taxi stands and corridors. >> that's absolutely one of the options you know, we haven't

issued on rfp we are currently drafting it you the report enlightens people think about the needs in their own community and hopefully to this process you know auditing the needs that have street, businesses getting together, the community getting together wouldn't that will great to have a taxi cab stand. >> through the website you'll make an announcement to people - >> so for the challenge grants specifically that will be an rfp process public and wildly disseminated we'll encourage anyone with an interest to apply. >> one final question i know you come to a point to help to spread the work word on the working group is there any of us commissioners can help further

this work whether the advocacy supervisor wiener is a big champion mission bay anything we can do up here. >> yes. in the coming months certainly you know as we have some things to distribute and feedback on absolutely there are i think you know when it comes to the rfp moved forward posted it would be great for everybody on the commission to get out the word and focusing on late night and early transportation there is not a grants making area focus specifically on it when it comes to the campaign and whether it is support for any of these initiatives or helping to spread the work. >> you've been doing great

work. >> if no other questions i'll hand it over to my inspectors. >> thank you director cain reporting future complaints since we last met at el anything that was employing the deliberate, premeditated killing for game days not permitted we do get a complaint about an unknown venue on franklin and ivory parolee executed music we're not exactly sure where it is coming from no venues that will be allowing sound like that i'll keep an eye and a guarantee good neighbor policy violation

sound like capitalizing with doors open i'll chat with them and this past sunday the castro street fair the sound was kept at reasonable levels and a couple of sites inspection over or over the course of last week one, if a complaint about an extension an egressing ingress on a sidewalk as far as i could tell based on the guidelines at sf better street dame they were where they needed to be 6 feet from a passing lane and the routines inspection turn out their permit was unavailable at the time the posting was on hand we'll be following up to make sure they have a copy posted in brief that's all i'm happy to

discuss more inal detail. >> what's the process by which you determined where the speakers go. >> anything i can really track down or hear anything we generated containments. >> if they've generated complaints the previous year. >> this particular year they have been a couple of instances a neighbor reached out to a us before a fair festival and it helps us as inspectors to go out and communicate with that person so i think anything i see in the weekly or anything in the mail blast as long as it is within the hours i'm out there i'm looking to stop in on. >> thank you. >> yep. >> thank you

thank you. >> good evening, commissioners a few notes i did a couple random inspections and the serial and 39 the venues were in compliance nothing to report i passed by f-8 on fulsome street. >> exhume crystal we don't have inspectors report sorry. >> minor stuff nevertheless, i seen a fight there was a vandal outside broke a window in a car the security tried to apprentice him and nothing so report it was random that's the ends of that we received another complaint directly about tunnel top they're under new management right now i was able to talk to

the new owner and we - i sent a citation he didn't this about the issues interest was correspondence between sergeant matthew and i wrote him a citation nevertheless, a new owner i think things should be fine i talked with him and should be able to get resolved. >> a new owner or. >> they'll be at the next hearing he building. >> got it. >> their coming up tunnel top. >> no they'll not be. >> not until november 10th if they come in to apply. >> they're in the process so but definitely you'll hear more about that in the near future. >> a compliance.

>> what did you tell them to reapply to stop playing the musical what was - >> he was explaining the situation where basically the property has not cleared escrow it is not you know it was gray area so what i did was to forward him to handle the situation. >> he knows the process in terms of the application. >> go ahead. >> i said thanks go ahead. >> a minor compliance issue the box the vub venue was concerned about a neighbor that complained to the police about noise i passed but i think that was a wedding people were leaving and outside and talking about the neighborhood has

exclaimed before about the same type of issue to me it was a non-issue but nevertheless, it was a complaint we got i did a sound like test for vs. is a i won't get both that if it comes up later i will any questions? >> no, it seems like a quiet quiet couple of weeks. >> it was quiet. >> great that i am about our staff and exporting all right. not seeing any, item 4 police department questions or comments don't see any badges in here so no presentation item 5 hearing and possible action for permits our first and only permits oh. >> commissioner president tan so our first and only permit is

vera sale i'll recuse myself i have i did not work for them but at the request of lieutenant i did speak with the owners about sound like and sound and he would feel more comfortable recusing myself. >> we still is quorum i'll pass it over to maggie. >> good evening commissioners so for on this permit this evening we have visa so a night club space that wants to get a place of entertainment to hold public and private events with t.j. performances in the back of forgotteny at mission in selma they approved the application with attached conditions you'll

see 10 basic ones and here to tell you more about a permit application and the owner from pump jeremy sure. >> hello jeremy president of the pump gotham go up i'm here to give you a little bit of background we went into the space that became available we decided to bifurcate two bars one a neighborhood bar an admission so about probably availability for hundred and 25 people that see guess open 6 days a week to act as a a neighborhood bar and the night club which at this point we'll operate friday and saturday and host a fair amount of corporate

events during the weeks the bones of this space were good we didn't do much renovations the sound like some is entirely new and was built by us we installed additional wall on the right-hand side of the property because in the past there had been complaints with sound like leak through that sound of the building with the neighbors and engaged a person that joined us together as well to do testing to make sure we are being as good neighbors as possible to the communities we have discussed the events with neighbors and opened our lines of communication with them to hear concerns the challenges in the appear space and be better operators the security team are here to answer questions or concerns related to the space. >> you've met with the

neighbors or you're planning. >> we met with some neighbors and there's not a formal neighborhood group but some representatives who have had e-mail changes related to concerns both with sound leaking from the space as well as security issues there was also some concerned a couple of months ago under renovation in the rear additional and causing combchlts, etc. >> you're responding by addressing those concerns. >> we're doing our best to address the concerns you may hear if neighbors tonight with us addressing those concerns but the best we can we still you know every night is different and we're young getting into this i think ongoing testing to

make sure we are not kaurz any problems to any neighbors and making sure the rear doors are not open etc., ect but doing everything we can. >> this is a neighborhood group you're talking about. >> when i saw this my first thought how someone was one of the more well the neighbors had complaint about this under new ownership hopefully, we can solve the issues and our being responsive to their needs that ultimate means our success. >> we felt it early on the tension between the neighbors and the operators we're hoping we're addressing and approaching that in a different way. >> commissioners you guys have questions or comments? >> so the events you have are

all being done in house. >> what do you mean. >> friday and saturday program your own dj and open to the public. >> that's correct. >> the promoter use is mainly in house you control them. >> that's correct. >> do you have a particular type of party you're trying to through. >> we designed and set up the space to be able to function for a lot of events we get our 50 percent of our revenue interests not a lot of space that holds three hundred and 50 or 4 hundred people for cooperate events but comfortable for the friday and saturday night crowd we have a party last week with microsoft and meeting with and partnering with pd students if

stanford university doing interesting kind of multi media 3 events and cutting-edge stuff if starved we master card dark side of the moon in 3-d and anywhere in the bar is a different experience we want to be different things so we designed the space. >> it is exciting to hear all reactivate that space that is there is has been a void if that area and people are looking for a variety of things so commissioners any other questions. >> a quick question have you seen the recommended conditions. >> by the police department. >> yes. >> and you're okay what all of them. >> yes. >> thank you. >> that's it any more questions security nothing? sound >> not yet.

>> not yet okay to go ahead and have a seat i don't know if you want to bring any thoughts folks you brought to share information. >> if you think it is necessary you guys got the reserves if sulter if you have any questions i'll be happy to i'll talk about the testing if not we don't need to - >> i think we're okay. >> great i don't see any police would the police like to speak is there a police here in opening it up for public comment please come on up state your name and you have 2 minutes. >> thank you my name is ken take the opportunity to talk about mission i'll give you a context. >> could you pull the mike

closer to our my case. >> an experience of the space and as as neighbors and thoughts on the operation of the space i'm been a resident in selma for the last 20 years and space on 1025 for the last year's it is a residential building that is thirty feet from the rear door of mission and a most of ordinances in the building have lived in that this e building since it's construction in 2003 based on the best practices for the technology including the double-paned windows etc. a little bit about the ln or m n i'm a member of - the association an unincorporated association about hundred and 50 members through ministry lafayette the 3 streets that make up the l m f this is part

of designation for the western selma planning why does this matter i'll give you a context of the concerns i represent a diverse must be it is your from artists to the professionals many of the neighbors like myself live in the selma we're bar goeser he's and this has office and bars and night clubs and living spaces a little bit about 1525 mission historically a placing space that has trouble with sound there are constantly problems with sound not contained within the space when requesting the commission to keep the path requirement on to be effective and be aware of the sound awe continuation and limit on the sound like system of the new

space on mission thank you >> thank you. >> hi, i'm matt a neighborhood drainage across from the building any club being in that space we were there before it expanded into the larger space the club is a new space but no club has been successful in mitigating the neighbors impact at one point sloan and their rhetorical building it is not fixable i didn't see any evidence a hundred years old building not improved and the inspection took measurement and

in the past sloan was in violation with the sf noise ordinance they made an effort to mitigate it is the operation to be in compliance with the laws and we've complained many times to the commission this issue extend beyond noise with the patrons we witnessed sloan patrons fighting a private parking lot that is a burden the neighborhood it asked to bear it is not a big neighborhood small, small buildings really a nice place to live and given the history there are strict limits we've not done the test but

think those this be included in the licenses and the best way to mitigate they'll have to bear the burden and limit their hours of operation thank you. >> thank you. >> is there any additional public comment after this next one? okay. great. >> hi, thank you i'm katherine. >> pull the mike down there we go. >> my name is kathy north i live adjacent to the space in - we moved into the neighborhood in 2010 and really excited to live in the neighborhood but unfortunately, when sloan opted next to us was unexpected we experienced a lot of noise and spent significant in the amount of and energy dealing with the noise energy we're

adjacent to the building the last time we were here it was and hearing for sloan we agreed to work with sloan to help solve the noise they come into our home and did construction doing sound like mitigation issues in our bedroom and it was my understanding that was all under the direction of sulter but it never worked so the whole time sloan was in operation we had noise every time they were open i i'm asking the commission to really work with us since we've lived there for 5 years it is a significant impact on my life to tale with that every we understand a couple of weekends i pulled into the garage with one of my friends what is that noise people asked me why our

houses is vibrator it is troubling to live in a house i'm distancing worried about what with my neighborhood is going to do how many aprons and what i have noise transition we're getting we're willing to work with them and work with sulter but as i think jeremy mentions they've not down the testing but we're not involved so i'm not sure thank you, ma'am. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> one final public comment unless there's additional - >> art. >> i'm joe thanks for getting the urinals off our streets awesome a big difference. (laughter)

still a history everybody spoke of so it was out of control for a while people railroad not policing their kraudz crowds and that sort of stuff as far the forgery has been good but on july 1st:30 in the morning it was 1:30 i said wow, that is insane is that from our building i live 40 yards if lafayette and i sat on any deck and heard the music go down i think mta walked over there they turned it down but noise issues as far as the previous establishment we've not riveted under but we have the kind of new neighborhood association so we'll get you on the medium and invite you but the noise i hope it didn't

create for trouble for us right next door that believe was quiet and expanded into the next unit and then it was on for the last anyways that's it thank you >> all right. any other public comment seeing none, public comment is closed on this issue commissioners - the matter is now with our commission i know we've heard from folks about the previous owners i know that oftentimes the police will mention that two about calls for service and things like that i know we generally try to give new owners a fair shot at kind of not having the ghost of their previous owners with that said, there are conditions the police

have i don't think if he wanted to add more. >> can i get a report from mr. sulter. >> the general public comment would like to hear the understanding i heard what at neighbors have exclaimed but and your recommendations and what is going to be down about it before we make a decision. >> we measured three years ago, the lower bedroom and had a chance to measure last friday night and jordan was in charge of the noise level was 10 to 15 decimals lower plump jack built a party wall and jeremy testified to that seems 0 significantly reduced the noise

transfer but we're not declaring victory we're feeling like things are moving in the right direction maybe a adjustment sunlights audio system what the audio system is justifiable so i'm confident we'll meet the commission and police standards and work very hard to make the neighborhoods satisfied with the operation as far as acoustics are satisfied. >> this equipment has a compressor. >> the loudspeakers with adjustable that is advances technology and also this willingness on the part of the new owner to work with me and the neighborhoods with sloan less of an interest. >> i know that plump jack knowing they started in the

marina and they're more responsible than the previous owner i'm curious if we reduce the d building inspection commission on that wall will that - what else can be done the neighbors hear in their bedroom is it tuning to it down. >> you're asking a very good question at katherine said we've not measured that so my proposal is that you allow operation and then jordan will make official measurement and skrornd about tells you once we know things are been calibrate we'll say that is fine this neatest continuation and go from there.

>> generally speaking we kind of set that as a condition to that the permit will be issued upon proper sound like testing so that's how you'll get it not the on the way around it sounds like efforts occurred and tests during an event or a sound test. >> the sound test but by it was as loud that was the test that jordan required and he measured the a.m. obedient by my last letter met the standards with that said, i don't want to declare victory it is not official you need official testing and were you

stand with respect to measures. >> there, there other measures to come online and anything else in the process. >> the answer is no other than the clubs willingness to adjust the audio as necessary. >> so no more construction about turning things down. >> moving speakers and not allowing the energy to shine on that part of building keep it on the disdains floor. >> are those limited in another room the dj says it's to the loud enough are they able to adjust that during the operations and i can't answer the question but clearly they don't pay attention they'll be in trouble so i think that the current operators are smart enough to know point rules the

game and on behalf of themselves not unlimited sound to be generated. >> one question for you all part ever our golfing good neighbor policy to have a good number to call they don't have to leave their room do they have it. >> anybody that reached out to us has cell phone numbers great. >> concern expressed by some of the neighborhoods about the responsiveness recommended to that when we reached out it is going to be a working relationship to respond as they see fit one 089 quick note to our question i was informed the isolators have not been that installed so one measure take place not construction but one others measure to be take place.

>> i mean it sound like there are efforts being made we appreciate that the numbers were concerned they're not just going indirectly directly to a voicemail but by a person to make actions. >> they use their cell phones with the managers on duty. >> will one of those managers be on duty or the managers inside the club. >> the managers inside the club. >> your head of security should have one that is my recommendations they can hear better than inside and get a better response time. >> i'd like to hear love for the commission to mare from jordan about what we experienced from walk outside when the sound was cranked up on friday there's been an ongoing discussion with

the neighborhoods with the theoretical tests and the real life tests that's why we were hosting an event to have a test to see arguably three hundred bodies in complarn to person and what we heard from the alley. >> we have a memo from director poly i believe you spoke to the tests took place on september 25th and october 2nd so we have that did the commissioner want to hear from director poly i think there is enough information. >> it sounds like there needs to be more testing you know that is a limit on stressing our resources but find the right

level and as stated earlier with any new business or permit holder we try to give you that and with that said, i'd rather move this along and see if under those a motion that commissioners would like to may i make and any additional conditions to add or not. >> well sure i think that i mean the owners have agreed to make sure there is a cell phone number available to neighbors that have complaint in arraignment to be will responded to i guess what i'm trying to figure out what kind of test to determine because inspector pauley said you believe that the

venue possess a vertical entrapment to remain compliant everything historically is not the case and every at the level on friday night i don't know. sometimes they're louder own different in itself the neighbors will august on different nights my argument sports the sound like argument but additional testing would be good i think they been e maybe a sound like curtain that adds to the sound like level in the environment and adds to whatever the neighbors hear. >> what was the recommended sound like level. >> we test at one 15 d bci feel like one 10 d b c is

generally that will be fine. >> okay. >> basically that is what i experienced at the event that night before we took the test as far as the manager told the yerba buena gardens travis said the operational level maybe higher but the level so one 10 is fine they were getting near the threshold non-compliance in the neighbors apartment but didn't necessarily cross that threshold so it was in compliance definitely as far as - >> when you say non-compliment you're talking about the 55. >> the 55 they were pretty much at 43 peak so it was fine that's where my opinion comes from they've done extra work i've been at

sloan it was loud this doesn't feel like my areas were not ringing when i left. >> you did a pressure deft test on the inside. >> it was we had it at about one 12 to one 15 and then at that level did you stand in front of the neighbors apartment. >> i want next door and took the sound like test that was below 55 d b c but again, when - another thing when you get you know as you may know when people get in there 33 and they're making noise in the alley and the environment that adds to the sound like you can estimate at that level it will be out of compliance so my final

recommendation was one 18 to contemplate for whatever not within the issues the patrons add to the environment. >> on the permit you'll put down maximize one 10. >> i'd like to add that to the permit that is the recommendation you've made at one 10 d b c. >> great we were in the middle of the motion to approve with a workable phone number that is immediately responded to be close to immediate and two to set the d b c level to one 10. >> along with the police conditions and our good neighbor policy any others - is that clear everyone clear on that. >> i think so. >> all right. is there a

second for the motion. >> i second. >> there's a second any other nope no more comments so on the motion with police conditions and your added conditions commissioner lee commissioner moshoyannis commissioner caminong commissioner president tan. >> the that item passes we really hope this workouts and we'll be seeing you if it doesn't so i'll leave it at that all right. let's move on thank you to the neighbors that came out to speak too item number 6 a report from the residential review committee so i don't know if jocelyn you want to take that one >> i'm happy to we're still

working out the communication flows but we have a couple of hours before this one so there is not a lot of time to where i had but today's meeting was short and sweet on 16th street that impacts fulsome and the end that was a shorted presentation but is project sponsor and the owner of 1015 did show up and pretty much speaks on behalf of the open of the developer to have conversations he is literally three hundred feats on the nose from the project in addition to being there's a structure that is turn around him in between the proposed development and the club so he is fairly sure this is not going to be an issue, however, there is some problem

getting in touch with my last conversation i believe that the one half the couple who from the person got in touch with the project manager it happened while we were in a meekly but we did a job of expressing the concerns that the commission and the project sponsor was clear about his intention to goes above and beyond a film study is required of him we moved to send our regular set of conditions on the wednesday night from the continuation onto the planning commission his planning hearing is on the 15 of october so between that meeting and this one i actually sent those recommendations on to the planner and speak to the planner

bus the previous meeting that we had done and moved conditions on that believe plaza and the project right in front of the belie echo they put up on the web the agenda for the 8 of october as well as the linkages you see the package i'm happy to report that the memo that is attached to all the documentation to the planning commission rights on first page includes the work that the commission did the communication about our issues that actual physical one page of conditions the e-mail that i sent it is front and center i'm excited we see that is was the

very first project i'll watch on thursday to make sure the planning commission amongst all of the many pages the 51 page indulgent acknowledges this new sort of concern but i expect that all of those at least the one in the selma are on the same planner will have the same attention paid to it. >> that's great short and sweet yeah in addition he ran out of the room again, the committee asked me to move to offer that charles offer to the committee to come in and do a short working group how to read a sound like series the projects are tough to read and understand he offered to come in and give more working group the

committee and i e-mailed him we went back and forth i meant to snag him with the next meeting october 20th i ask that the agendized meeting any commissioners come it will happen at the regular rdr meeting. >> i'm curious when they present to you. >> uh-huh. >> what do you get predrawings or the idea the doors are pointing out. >> we got as much visible as available and each of those projects are part of progress so we didn't have one that doesn't have much shape but, yes drawings area renderings you get

the sound like study today, we get a piece of building material that actually hold it in our hands so you know we've had ben and i had conversation about how to come up maybe the committee can help me the set of materials we should always have it is fairly consistent but more specific in terms of we really like those and this much time so we'll be there before they arrive but ultimate an idea today's presentation was not as slick as two weeks ago they've not been doing too many presentations and it was interesting given the planning commission and in a

week but so - >> that's good they're taking it stoirl seriously. >> they're taking it seriously we are informally we'll get more follower i'm not a fan of bureaucratic rules we'll push towards you must give us this many copies and this much time. >> yeah. i think that is the in the right direction and also those materials those are pipeline to present as we get into the regular mode not in the pipeline projects they may not have drawings or more of a concept. >> that's okay at least they hear of us. >> right. >> they can always change things. >> at this point it is a lot more easy for us to have

influence than when they're basically ready to let go but steve our totally welcome commissioner welcome to come to the meetings. >> let me get the agenda clear i'll be there are. >> any public comment on the residential review committee public comment is closed. and item 7 commissioners questions or comments. >> commissioners. >> well, i guess i'm i should make an announcement i'm going to be resigning unfortunately, i am moving to the east bay so that means i won't meet the requirement for the aspect of sit on the commission i'm sorry that my term is cut short but it was just other life decisions that came up with raising our kids and it is amazing to work

but. >> that's. >> curse the public health representative you all move to the east bay. >> well, thank you thank you for your time this probably is not your last meeting. >> may be this one or the next one. >> we'll say nice things at the next meeting (laughter) any other supervisors e commissioner questions or comments. >> any any public comment on this announcement no guess we do. >> just when we got it right i just you know observed those meetings you've been a great contribution hope you visit us from time to time and you're a great addition and you'll be miss. >> i'll be around doing what i'm doing. >> in alleys in selma.

>> and helping those residents. >> all right. let's move on to item 8 new business items or requests for future agendas anything? all right. any public comment on that nope let's call this meeting to a close adjourned at

>> one 10 this is the regularly scheduled meeting of the investment & infrastructure the successor agency commission to the san francisco redevelopment agency for tuesday, october 6, 2015, welcome to members of the public madam secretary. >> thank you. the the first order of business is item one roll call commissioners, please respond when your name is called:

commissioner mondejar supervisor pen commissioner singh commissioner bustos madam chair rosales all members of the commission are present. >> the next order of business the the next on the job ever october 20th will be held on room 416 b announcements of sound like incompetence please be advised the ringing of and use of cell phones, pagers and similar sound-producing electronic devices are prohibited at this meeting. planning please be advised that the chair may order the removal from the meeting room from the meeting room ringing or use of a cell phone, pager, or other similar sound-producing electronic devices.

c announcement of time allotment for. please be advised a member of the public has up to 3 minutes to address the commission unless the commission adopts a shorter period on any item. it is strongly recommended that any member of the public any member of the public wishes to address the commission fill out a speaker card and submit it to the commission secretary. the next obtained of business action at a previously closed session meeting no reportable actions the next order of business item 4 matters of unfinished business there are none the next order of business consisting of the consented and regular agenda madam president

call items 5 abc and we'll separate item c from the consent calendar okay so the comments will be 5 ab and d >> yes. >> first, the consent 5 a approval of the minutes regular meeting of july 7, 2015, 5 b approving a fourth amendment with 9 inc. for the shipyard art installation project and contract number h p.s. one 14 extending and authorizing the executive director to extend the date as hunters point shipyard redevelopment project area action resolution number 582015 and 5 d authorizing a second amendment to the legal service

contract with the thomas law group to increase the amount by one hundred thousand dollars for a total not to exceed one hundred $50,000 to get specialized legals services action resolution number 162015 madam chair. >> any speaker cards for those i do not. >> okay do we have any comments? okay. so it's been - so commissioner singh moved and i'm sorry i'm sorry so, yes items 5 ab and d have been moved by commissioner singh and seconded by commissioner mondejar please call the residential >> commissioners, please respond when your name is called: commissioner mondejar

supervisor pen you. >> commissioner singh commissioner bustos madam chair rosales madam chair, i have 5 ids okay those items are adapt with respect to item 5 c i'm going to recuse myself the law enforcement of slow down is a subcontractor with my law firm i'll leave the room and sxhooufrlts will a chair that item. >> madam secretary the next

order of business is regular agenda 5 c authorizing the third amendment to the legal contract with the sloan and others limited liability partnership to increase the contract by $75,000 for a totally agree gait contract monument not to exceed one hundred/75 to get specialized legal service action and discussion resolution number 492015 pursue madam director. >> thank you, madam clerk good afternoon to the commissioners and to the supervisor the first meeting welcome commissioners and members of the public back in 2013, the successor agency occ entered into specialized legal services contract with

renee slowly we have a continuing need for those serves as we rebuild the organizations and complete the significant work program we have ahead of us with that, brief introduction i'd like general council and jim morales to give us a brief overview of that item for your consideration. >> commissioner bustos and others i'm jim morales i think that director bohe summarized it succinctly i'll add as you may know that the successor agency over the past 3 and a half years has gone through a tremendous transition from the redevelopment agency to the successor agency and one of the most difficult and important aspects of that transition was our labor related work as

you're aware we lost a number of employees at the beginning of the solution process many actually all of us became city employees upon the resolution and then most agency employees 6 mostly later became independent employees of the successor agency you can imagine a number of personnel and labor related issues and indeed many serious and difficult issues to grapple with in intuitively as director bohe indicated we had a need to remain an outdoor firm a representative our center prior that that oozed the services the city attorney's office and they could no longer provide those services in this context we hired the firm of slooelg and

they've helped us to work with the city and the units and the employees culminated in a finalization of two labor agreement the beginning of this year we have moving forward from that point in a very positive way also last year, we had a need to have a human resources consultant sit in for as a human resource manager that was previously provided by the city and was no longer available we needed to have a h.r. expert specialist at the office and they have non-lawyers that are h.r. suspect we remained that

person under a contract separate and definition from the contract what you have today is the contract that combines those two into one that allows us to pay some outstanding bills under those contracted and provide additional you amounts if we need those services in the future a h.r. consultant or a specialized legal services we've been served well by that as the chief new yorker jeff has many years of experience no labor law and we are also assist by charles a partner in the firm and also with us today is justin who is a member of the firm and very active in the negotiations the attorney r h.r. consultant we've used it is used

occasionally jeff a member of the firm but not a lawyer and previously served in the department of human resources for the city and has invaluable experience so i'll strongly urge you to approve that contract amendment and hopefully, we won't need to use those services very much in the future but in conveys we'll have them available i'll be happy to answer any questions. >> madam secretary. >> we don't have any speaker cards. >> anyone from the public seeing none, public comment is closed commissioners that want to. >> i move. >> moved by commissioner singh and seconded by commissioner mondejar madam secretary. >> members of the public commissioners, please respond when your name is called:

commissioner mondejar supervisor pen commissioner singh commissioner bustos and madam chair rosales has recused herself i have 4 ids and one recall. >> thank you that item passes. >> get commissioner back. >> thank you. >> madam secretary please call the next item the nobd is workshop discussion

madam director. >> thank you, madam secretary commissioners really in response to our request to have a dialogue with mta staff to better understand how the city overall transportation policies fit within the major developments in the hunters point shipyard and candle stick and transbay and other points this presentation is a broad offering overview to inform your decision making efforts and certainly an opportunity to speak with mta staff with that, overview sally deputy director will be joined by mta staff. >> thank you director bohe i'm sally you've heard we're here to provide parking and development guidelines that the city strongly believe that are critical for guiding and

development in san francisco especially during this time we're seeing significant growth in to the city so tom maguire the streets program will walk you through walk you through the presentation and give us updates on the near term pipeline projects that mta is working on and what that will mean for transit and other transportation choices for folks living and working in san francisco just wanted to add that something to keep in mind as you listen to the presentation those are city policies but baked in the development agreement as we worked you know our former agency worked closely with the city staff and policymakers around transit and development guidelines to didn't want you to think this is the city view and

ours are different we work in concert with the guidelines and, in fact, what shapes our decisions when we bring decisions before you and bring in the recommendation the right parking ratio or operating policy that should be in effect for the project we look to those principle in our guiding documents and also in keeping with what the city is formulating right now the best practice we want to acknowledge that each of our project area is a unique set of circumstances when transportation come to our projections we could spend a working group on the projects i wanted to highlight our goal to give you that board overarching view and when we come forward with various romgz

recommendations on specific projects we'll bring the neighborhood specific information about what transportation and transit and parking information is relevant that is what we see a kickoff of on ongoing conversation bringing this to you in the future actions but, of course, if there are things you want to keep in mind or specific things to bring back to you let us know we'll do our best to accommodate that with that, i'm going to turn it over to tom maguire for the presentation we're available for questions thank you. >> okay. thank you sally good afternoon, commissioners it's great to be here and have a chance to put some of the latest thinking of mta to manage and operate and develop our transportation system a dialogue

to how it fits in the city's broadly discussion i'll talk about broad citywide policies and transit first, the city's policy over 40 years the prioritization of all trips and vision zero a joint commitment by the mayor, by the board of supervisors and by our agency to reduce traffic fatalities in san francisco by the year 2024 and this was 10 years good and i'll talk about the zero 50 hundred and zero waste for hundred grossly of 50 percent travel by auto modes we've trial to submit the transit goal with safety and environmental sustainability as well so this is the policy

fracture e framework we are thinking how to invest this scarce resources that might fit with our thinking of redevelopment so as we know we're in a rapidly growing city facing recording rates of growth in both employment and housing 40 in san francisco we know more is coming the region is foist over and over 4 hundred new residents coming to the city in 2025 play a big part it is important to remember as city government we're charged not only with the quality of life and the quality of infrastructure as i said a framework of vision zero and

transit first he is those big picture policy goals our accepts have supported over the years we think we need growth we're in a housing footprint r affordability criticize without the housing supply we agree we can't get out of this crisis and yet it is not just the quantity but the quality that matters so if we don't - if we go down the road with business as usual we're going to have gridlock and unsafe streets and not a sustainable transportation system i've pulled this from a recent growth they use the word gridlock to describe the conditions that could result if 200 thousand residents. we're not thoughtful how we

connect the land use development to the transportation to address our needs we need to build the housing in neighborhoods friendly and find ways to build housing that mitigate the impact both new and existing residents on transportation system so all san franciscan those would live here today and coming tomorrow can be safe and enjoy the public be spaces we're thinking our more and more with the planning department we as the owners of the on street parking supply how wherewith the majority of trips by transit walking and biking and 35shg there's a resource for those but not the thing that is driving our allowing choices and we think that is a path to

developing the neighborhoods that are dense and liveable and inclusive for all types one interesting observation that many people have said if you look at the neighborhood that many of us look at the iconic neighborhood were built before the zip code e zoning code with the parking to be built with each unit they have fear less than parking spaces for every housing units and that lack of parking space is not prevented those neighborhoods from diverse housing types nor prevented them from being vibrant neighborhood if you were to try a rebuild neighborhood like north beach or chinatown today you couldn't do that based on the kind of zoning

you'll have to build so much parking and getting the fist for the diversity of population of those neighborhoods so parking is a big factor here parking is important because it takes up space physical space that would be otherwise devoted to housing or commercial land use the average amount of space that parking taxes is 3 hundred 40 skweetd per vehicle the aisles and the walkways that's a lot of says that a few of the parking spaces you're talking about a good-sized parking unit and likewise it is quite expensive to develop parking and the highland values and the needs for seismic safety is it costs up to $100,000 to build a

parking space that is passed on to either us as the public sector with the development or on to the renters and owners of the housing providing the choice to provide parking we also know with we think about the urban design and the vibrant neighborhood we want we want to find ways to accommodate parking in a graceful way but if we have to look at the parking and the parking design the parking can detract in the quality of the environment and the ground floor retail and the community services that makes our neighborhoods vital and finally we know that people make traveling choices you have park to recipe residents and visitors

we get more driving up to a point we'll, accommodate but as the city grows in a transit first way there is a limit to the number of driving trips we can accommodate we're not building freeways or widening streets with walkable and transit friendly students we can't plan a way that brings more traffic into those streets thinking about the space factor that is a imagine that we often use to just visualize how much space in a variety of ways it is hard to read with the text there on the left you have 60 cars and 60 people in 60 cars taking up city blocks and 60 people with a muni bus to the right you have 60 people on bikes so taxiing up

as little space as possible so again more spaces for cars more spaces taken up by cars the less space for life and finally the vision zero commitment as i said we lose over thirty san franciscans on the year every year people that are walking and traveling and bicycling the centers takes all age rages it is a public health crisis that is a top priority for mta to solve in the majority of those fatalities it is in any way, shape, or form with the driver and we know that reducing the amount of traffic capping or managing the amount of a traffic is the best way to prevent those kinds of deadly crashes if take place

the cement it is favoring driving over more balanced transportation choices i don't want to call the status quo we are trying to get beyond in the city we are or even how to provide good choices so we don't want to simply say that driving bad and parking bad we want to say there is a place for parking and certainly a place for driving most of us need to be in a car at some point during the course of the week but how to have great choices and make those as sustainable as possible we're at a moment in time we have more choices than before expanding transportation and digital operators and making the streets walkable and rolling up

car share and bike shares and ways to get around and make them as assessable as possible we've got more transit services mta over the last 5 years has put in place a number of programs to make the transit system for assessable for all residents of the city we have free muni for youth and seniors and lifeline pass and working with employers and schools and universities to have pays for students for part time employees so we can help people make the most sustainable transportation not every choice will work for everyone you might be a transit rider and someone that needs to use a taxi or uber

or lyft are bike sharing but it is important that a number of people have those choices and every eir person makes a choice making the city for sustainable and taken together as we reduce the needs for driving to make the city for accessible by all molds modes we can reduce the need for onsite parking and developments the great thing about san francisco we know that the distance people are traveling is manageable distances either by bike or foot we ever couch years work with the partners at sfmta and they estimate how far people driving on the afternoon average so the average drooiflg trip it a little bit less than 3 miles

every walking trip is close to one mile they walk to shopping or school and the average bike trip is 2 and a half miles when you see for driving trips this is not suburban your we don't have folks taking 10 and 15 mile drives those are trips if there was a safeway to bike people will shift over the data is the sustainable within the right range for many of over travelers we have some national trends how travel is going since the middle of last decade before the recession driving has been going down nationally a number of factors that are in placing play not all these economic changes where young

people get a there later and some people choose not to have a carp more and more people are choosing to live in the city they want to live in the neighborhoods in our city the bay area is actually part of the country where car use is dropping the faster so even more than new york and boston we're the place in the united states where the rate of driving per capital is dropping the faster we've seen public support for sustainable transportation choices in 2014 we remember number of bond measures prop a which gave mta and our partners agencies close to half of billions of for 10 years in the transit system prop d sports those investments of investments

and prop l asked the voter to essential to vote so for more that concludes my remarks was rejected pretty sound likely we're setting records and interesting when real estate experts look at the ass ask residents what are the things you want out of a house or neighborhood the factors come to the top are walkability and transit people want to live in the neighborhoods it is our job to make sure not just the people that can afford to live anywhere but all residents of the city so that it is not a luxury to walk down the street but the reality along the supply side we're using oversee resources that have been given us to make generational investments the

central subway we're in the middle of a bus and rail system called muni forward all the busiest lanes will have boarding access and more trains we're openly bus transit on geary and increasing this to 2014-2015 just in that 24 month period it matches the riders we're setting rortsdz like bart and caltrain and openly the terminal and expanded systems all really exciting stiff over the next 56 years we're so much is changing are in terms of the network i thought i'd highlight that

before i wrap up i'd highly highlight the central waft how the transit are coming together at a place there are a tremendous amount of the redevelopment activity take place we know for years the partners lake the motorbike putting if f in place that are foundations laying and now as the operating and investing we're sort of building on that here's the map of the transit network and in and arena selma and the waterfronts and i'm going to go year by year what we'll see coming online in 2015 the introductions of the muni 55 bus that provides supplemental direction service with the heart of mission bay campus

next year you'll start to see new bart cars the beginning of the opening of the transbay term and the ferry services and the bs r it in 2018 the new blue greenway providing bike activity up and down the waterfront in 2018 2019 two introduce trains a major, major improvement to the discount you been downtown and all the emeralds and much faster simplest in the core of the muni system and finally a long term 2020 caltrans electric indication in the waterfront to the peninsula and regional designations so while the transportation didn't have a

long lead times commitments are made with the agency our bearing fruit we're bringing more and more mobility choices 2 to 3 the city this is happening all over san francisco and we're getting help from the partners from the developers and developing agencies interesting things we're seeing coming to the system shuttles and may be was the leader if in providing a shuttle that connects the mission bay with the rest of the system and many by train subsidies for the workers things like car share membership for new residents from bike parking to we're trying to think of ways to plug into this sustainable transportation our agencies are working together as well so the

goal of working investment and those big redevelopment sites we don't want to develop our development in a peace meal way but transit it in place when new residents come to the city they have angle option the way it does displace the operators we want to look at the big picture staff works on the waterfront sustainability and it helps us to that about matching the land use investment and finally we say mta and our partner of transportation you see we need to protect our investments we're spending billions of dollars we have to make sure that we are making investments and tying them to land use strategies to make sure that residents have good access to transit and congestion is not sloan the busses we're using

tools like parking management an urban design to support these those investment to make the system work better for the residents coming here and residents here for generation thank you for letting me take you through a quick journey and look forward to answering any of our questions >> thank you. we need to see if there is public comment first before questions from the commission. >> we do ms. wendy and corin words please step forward to the podium. >> good afternoon. i'm wendy

- since mission bay really had it's - is foundational program we have over 22 zip cars and city car sharing so people can have a wide range of options as you may know your trip on monday might be different from tuesday and wednesday we have a robust program we have an annual survey i'm about to close our drive alone rate between 19 and 23 percent in the 5 years we've think been in business that is

significantly blow every neighborhood in san francisco except the will financial district you know where the driver alone rate is under 10 percentage i believe we believe that working closely with the communities to make sure that we're designing services and multi modes is critical the ability for people to assess those modes particularly we understand it is a real stretch to find room for everybody around bart station and caltrain stations as those new intense community for us to work for everybody to work we really need to pay attention to f this assess and infrastructure the caltrain station is a disaster not helping with the construction before the construction it wasn't good it kind of rethinking on a global

level how to make those better hubs so that all of the pieces of this gigantic policy can avoid contract we're excited mission bay is growing and part of warriors planning we know those new neighborhoods are coming into mission bay to work and vice versa our residents will be going out to them so we're excited to be part of a much larger organization that is the former redevelopment project areas and to be working with the mooning muni to make sure we deliver good service to our customers at the that's the bottom line thank you and we would like to invite you to come to mission bay and let us show you how the community has changed in the last 4 years

thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is corin woods i chair the advisory committee i know this is not you know what i mean on mission bay but a road that are question commissioner bustos asked about blocks to the east i thought that would be important to ask wendy to talk about the transport plan because some of you are new since motorbike started the transportation management plan for mission bay is robust our problem has been that muni has not kept up with us the extension the 22 down 16th street street was to happy in 2003 we get the interim this year we're still in negotiations for transit service through

mission bay south that was to be the 45 and maybe they thought to do do 10 through mission bay and now we're talking about the 11 line we don't know where it is going to go and connect those are ongoing discussions on ongoing negotiations muni has a tough time in the last few years and moving forward is definitely a step in the right direction we have a lot of catching to do we on the t m a the zip cars and better safe than sorry they're helping us to reduce the single occupancy traffic we have problems because of the giant we don't want them to get worse in the arena comes in from the

arena come into we definitely want to reduce cars that means giving people as tom and wendy said a choice so that they, get to where they're going without getting into a car all of these things are working together we'll appreciate having our support to help us persuade muni to move facility and help us support of the t m a working with the ball park cooperating committee through mta on traffic and transportation around special effort all of r all of these things are going on thanks for your support. >> thank you. >> any other individuals that would like to speak on this item? >> no okay

so this is a working group we a commissioner get to ask questions i know that is a conversation we've had quite often but with respect to our various action items that come before us we have strong opinion does anyone. >> commissioner bustos will talk last welcome supervisor or commissioner, i offer you the opportunity to kickoff questions if you like. >> yeah. this- >> (laughter). i want to thank you for the presentation and i especially love slides 16 about your incentive to get people to use transportation on slide 12 you talked about the transit improvements so my question is well, how bart offer incentives

for individuals of different economic status to ride their services as well. >> soy can't say speak too much about those providers detailed fair policies the city if have control over muni is really the carries the vast majority of trips by san franciscans i think a dollar per dollar the feel free policies are aware for riders it is a good question. >> i'm in about depending on our leaving from within the city the other modes of transportation might be utilize it is a good asset for the individuals to encourage them to use the services and then on slide 3, 4, 532 you talked about

the cancerous and better safe than sorry membership would it be for all individuals and how it breakdown a reduced rates or a financial barrier with the entire membership be covered and a certain amount of membership. >> we're seeing lots of innovative models there are the simply an appreciative the developer gives a discounted membership are zip car membership more robust approaches where might where developer might empties it for lower-income households it is a dialogue we would like to start and keep going with our commissioner about what the right way to provide that choice especially there are barriers for moving lower-income folks

into modes like smart phone app and barriers to make that real a work in process but developers finding a way to provide them. >> thank you. >> commissioner singh. >> yes. do you own a car. >> i do own a car, yes. >> (laughter). >> so you're telling everybody don't own. >> you know, i don't know like i say you know but what are this ratio how many units have one car. >> it depends on the project and you know the kinds of residents that are served by the project so it doesn't you know all those choices we talk about don't have to work for everyone in the middle the city with

access would to o one to one is too high other parts of the city it is appropriate i personally find it hard to put ourselves in other people's shoes i own a car but take transit every day but people ride taxis there are a lot of choices and imposing of modes that people use to get around and likewise other parking ratios it is different in every neighborhood of the city i think what i'm arguing more for let's not assume one to one is right let's serve the population we want to serve with the development projects we're talking about. >> you mentioned that bart and transportation for mta and where

i live everybody has a dual cars and we have a bus for example, i live near linking the golden gate park a bus goes there people have lived 20 blocks away and especially the older people we just get where we want to go. >> right i think the whole point of muni forward program to take the long commutes if from the neighborhoods further out and make it more reliable and the big muni geary boulevards and potrero all about serving the trips in a reliable and faster way we're working on it. >> okay. thank you.

>> yes. please so, yes commissioner mondejar absolutely. >> thank you for the presentation a few questions what do you mean can you explain smart parking management. >> during our slide 34 protecting mta investments. >> it maintenance two things a lot of it is mta we manage the meter parking and permit parking and over 27 off-street parking in the public garages around the city we've tried to give customers when and where parking is available and make sure the price is set rights so it is cheap and no double park it is expensive none will park there and be smart how to use those tools to manage the parking day to day that is our job at mta the developer does it is more

about getting the amount right and making sure that is available. >> should we have figures on how many cars are actually in the city at a certain time through our smart parking management i mean just a round about figure of residential parking permits that you give and those who use off-street parking you know where i live it is you know double parking with a delivery truck and no parking space available then you know parking officers go around and around afraid to get a $60 ticket and so on do you you know how many cars are actually, in the city. >> not a single number but a few we believe approximately

hundred thousand stickers and 27 thousand that concludes my remarks in the off street lots that is full during a busy week day but empty overnight and not used frequently on the we understand and thirty thousand parking meter from a hundred percent to the busiest neighborhood and much less than in a low traffic area so a single number that's the magnitude we have. >> so in south bay i'm going mission bay an issue residents parking permit i see corin saying no there are not. >> you don't have that so how do they get about they use public transportation and passing and car sharing is that

how you managing parking in that area. >> yeah. i'll speak for management i won't pretend you off-street parking is an option and mission bay was one of the areas we look at sf park it was our on street parking management pilot if 2011 to 2013 we looked at bike packing and providing riders with the information we proved you can use it pricing to reduce double parking to reduce circling and make it age so that there is one or two spaces available on those blocks so that's the toolbox we use in mission bay. >> it seems to me that motorbike sorts of the first

time is it a model you're using not issuing residential parking permits so utilities whatever is available for public transportation is that the only area you don't issue residential parking. >> the residential parking program is really for strictly residential areas that are under parking structures for some reason anywhere from golden gate park to telegraph hill to downtown and the tourist attractions so residential parking is not about mixed use we have a mix of office and retail and conveys campuses it is strictly on the residential that are surrounded or a big traffic generates our. >> what are those areas we don't issue residential parking permits do you know. >> there's no it is not a map

of areas but we don't puts residential parking on streets that have commercial large mouchlz of commercial land use only strictly residential autopsy strictly residential okay. >> realtime information how do you get it out. >> there's an app and maps on the website that drivers check. >> app i don't think i have that. >> what i live near mission bay. >> sf park. >> sf park okay. >> download them all. >> we're in the process of kind of rebooting the technology through a circuit technology we are trying to move. >> it would be great. >> if there's more communication i live near the area where or in the area i

don't know about the realtime information parking app you first i've heard it and okay. >> it would be great to make that available to not only especially the residents or 0 those who commute the numbers you were saying how many cars in the city most of them are out of town folks; right? who work in the city? >> it is a mix it depends on where what part of city you're looking at i think the majority of cars traveling in the city are san franciscans traveling around over 8 hundred thousand residents and 2/3rd's will have access to a car so - >> okay. i have a couple of more questions what is t d m where wendy shared that information what does it

mean. >> travel demand management if you have a fixed amount of the developments or workers going to a work site t d m gives them better choices trait discounts or realtime's information about transit it could be you know raising the prices of parking and things like that. >> certainly this is going to be a change no lifestyle for a lot of the residents especially your projection an increase of 20080 thousand new residents in there was a huge increase 200

and 80 thousand less than 20 years where do we put them? >> thank you. >> okay. so can i ask a couple of questions. >> you sure can. >> i want to understand the transit first philosophy obviously it is self-manageable but i'm wondering the transit first for the entire city or transit first appropriate in the densest part of city and transit first, we'll make transportation our first time priority to make sure the transit is as fiscal and robust as possible. >> so to commissioner antonini's question if i live in a kind of an area folks can have two to three cars it doesn't seem like people are flipping

out over parking i live in bruno heights it is very hilly as other neighborhoods that philosophy applies to all of the residents. >> yes. it is not about deathly to the individuals to make a choice but make sure we are giving people as much choices as possible so the parts of bruno heights but maybe there is a maybe other parts of bruno heights often the 2030 if we beef up the services a good number of people can switch that makes it better it is not again one-size-fits-all it is about truly about making those decisions we're making sure those are attractiveness and effective as possible. >> i live close to the golden

gate park bart station it is a short walk to mission so more choices but if you're dealing with time issues then the less more service along mission street is makes it option not as feasible. >> mission w is one of the moving forward barriers making 14. >> 14 a work horse. >> that's our busiest route. >> the only pet peeve if we are anticipating congestion in areas i don't want to put you on the spot but it is i have an issue with those astounding shuttles in the mission because i don't want to steal our thunder one time after a meeting commissioner bustos sat in a restaurant think 18 and valencia

i thought shocked in that period of time between 4 and 6 the number of buses that would be coming down the 18 to valencia i had this visual of those tech buses coming by and basically gobbling up the entire street on 18 and two cases followed by a muni bus that seemed tailored to the street i don't understand that policy when you have a huge bus transporting people in a congested part of town. >> muni buses that pack as many or more people their skinner, if you will, to fit the lane almost retrofitted to fit the lane that is a krargs contradiction that's a light way of saying that muni has a vision about how to deal with 3 issue? >> about 18 months ago we

started a pilot program we put those tech buses under a framework they can't work on they street they have to come to us and we put those stops on a heavy street and more likely to go to the streets where the tech workers can congregate and get on this buses we've down k done a lot of enforcement over the stops we wrote written before 12 hundred violations in the last year for the buses blocking muni and we do it before and after and found that the tech shuttles were- they dale got the message we're serious the issue of commuter shuttles has gone down but the big city buses on

streets we just released a report yesterday actually showing the findings of that 18 month pilot talking about the way in which blocking muni and the dynamics played out largo found that the regulated shufrlt system is better they can literally drive on the city but issues to be addressed i will say that we as we can't prevent them from operating on the streets the puc so the pilot program that was about us working in kind of a - much leverage and power to get them on streets appropriate for large buses but we found that banning those buses if san francisco is not an

option. >> i'm not suggesting banning but regulating other modes of transportation i find it hard to believe we can't better regulate particularly when the neighborhoods they're in the - and the other pet peeve only because i one-size-fits-all witness it daily we have different modes of transportation we have people roll call skating down market i've seen bikes kind of we know blowing through you know red lights and stop signs you know we have in my opinion more cars on the street than we did before and the debate that's because the taxi was not as responsive, etc. by is seemed a lot of modes of transportation and muni has

the ability to regulate those multiple modes they're creating chaos and conditions. >> the most interesting projects we've put out in the last 12 months a safer market street market street west of third street and reorganized how everybody used it a continuous retaining wall red bike lane and skaters and non-moderated users and then the designated turn on and off points for private and general traffic private drivers and uber and lyft it is transparent where we could and couldn't go it is everything comes down market street this is the example of the kind of tools we'll use more and more down the

streets. >> commissioner bustos (laughter). >> one quick why can't say the transit bus follow the procedures. >> buses. >> that's a rhetorical question and it's all yours your mr. maguire thank you. >> do you have another question so you want to yield because commissioner bustos has the floor. >> on slide 10 i said that parking reduces a building financial liability i live in a part of city in which everybody has multiple cars and if you have a family and your child goes to school in the morning and missed the bus you'll have to directive to say investable you mentioned the idea to increase the parking but working-class people and

families i don't like the idea of pushing those who have to drive for example, you live in the bayview and drop anyone off on the admin of the city you're spending time that will increase the times of transportation you're forced to drive. >> so it is absolutely true commissioner antonini's what gaffe an example plenty of people that driving is not always an option we're not saying wear trying to restrict or take that choice away from people but make sure that are other 0 modes of transportation this would not been us at mta's setting the prices of parking lake meters that about the fact it can cost up to $100,000 for just to build that parking.

>> do you know how many people that are losing in the development actually have cars versus those who are carless. >> i don't know the specifics it varies with the development it an important issue for our staff to get that data and figure out something we - something we can side differently to get that. >> commissioner bustos. >> mr. maguire thank you very much for joining us maybe ed reiskin should have been here he's the head of the department i actually would love to have a meeting a joint meeting with the mta commission what you've heard and what we've spoken about before in the past which is all public is nothing new and things we should look at

so on slide 8 this is your slide not mine you talked about the need to protect the quality of life for existing residents part of my frustration who independence quality and for whom it seems to me as a lifelong san franciscan especially latest we've had people trying to tell us a what to do throughout our presentation you talked about choices and i happen to disagree with that you're not providing us choices mta is trying to do trying to limit our choices rather than enhance the choices i say that because we talked about on page 6 transit friendly the whole presentation was about parking not once about do i hear mta as a whole talking about the safety

issues of muni people don't want to ride muni because one it is dirty not on time and not safe especially for the seniors and especially for young kids i can't tell you how many fights or near fights happen on muni and the bus driver keeps on rolling people don't feel safe riding the public transportation if we talk about this we need to take into consideration the system we have and make that better; right? we have we spend a lot of money and resources into the transit system but we don't seem to be getting a lot out of it when we talk about status quo we allow the issues of the muni to go continue the way it is going and focus the

attention on parking and not insensitive vices people to take public transportation but almost you know punish people for using their automobiles and as the commissioner said when you have families sometimes you you know you live in a multi generation house you have the parents and kids and grandparents you go shopping you'll not see a family ride their bikes to shopping we've gotten into the mode that is about transit first, we median bicycles and people who are disabled can't ride a bike people that are elderly they don't feel comfortable at my age i don't feel like riding a bike i've ridden my bike on streets

and almost gotten run over this is not idaho it is san francisco let's do it the san francisco way people should stop i know there are thirty fatalities each fatalities is really, really important for us to look at but there is also fatalities that happen in the city that happen on the streets of our aide people are getting shot and stabbed that we need to look at so a fatality is what is moving us to do something then we need to look at the whole city as a whole and; right? >> when it comes to the parking spaces taking up too much space i don't know about that i mean we've looked at designs that you know we've asked people developers to come in and try to

provide amble spaces for people everybody is quick to side bicycles what about the families and the city sharing this is assuming one you know how to use a computer or smart phone two you can pay for it and sometimes there are people whether it is because of limited english or because of the economic backgrounds or the number of people in the families they can't use ride share i specifically asked how many people in the units they said no more everybody there again, you diminish the opportunities for people that live in the development to be able to look at that i think whether you say on page

11 this stuff is all recorded you can go back and take it to the folks to the department but it is as if i give access to parking people will drive not necessarily if you want people to use public transportation and provide a transportation that works that make sense one that people will feel comfortable in riding and not to do it i'm glad we have free muni for senior citizens especially the seniors they deserve it and working hard and deserve it i'll disagree with that particular slide when we heard you talk about the partners and i know commissioner mondejar talked about be able to have bart and the other partners

to lower the cost you know if they're great partners then he would hope to have an answer to that if they're great partners they should have already step up to the plate and provided discounts to seniors especially who live in the city to be able to use because it is important that you know if you're going to be a partner be a partner all the way. >> and pardon me i - there are senior and disability benefits on bart i don't know the details i don't have. >> now, when we look at so the system of our transportation grid here this is more of a

commentary is a one i've thought about a lot if we look at the city system that works why would we have bike lanes in the same street as cars? because you have two groups that don't necessarily like each other and your informing them on a street like say fillmore where everyone is mad at each other going down one direction that is one direction imagine if there were two why not look at a group system you you know we have cars on fulsome street; right? there are a lot of people heading towards the bridge and a bike lane on some of the anular streets the smaller streets a bicycle system i mean, i would use then i'm not expediting but

only competing against the cyclists and the not cars that way not forcing people on cars and bikes together where they will you know you get people upset i hear honking and people flipping each other off if we had a grids system that works in the main to fair and the side streets in opposite directions for fulsome you have there are some side streets and some men i am not you know what i'm saying if we looked at something like that rather than for these two groups that observing are not fond of each other for whatever reason and then that's where a lot of the angry happens and frustration grows and it is not very safe so the way the system was set up as we see it today it is not smart

i've - they had designated streets where cyclists went i said wow, that is pretty good and some of the side streets all of a sudden bays become pomthd with people in their dangerous and it is a smarter way to do it but who am i? >> when we talk about the accessibility i have to go back to accessibility for home the disabled and our seniors, families i think you know, i would ask mta to take that thirty thousand fee think ms. woods said or you said that you know when the caltrain station was set up

people thought it was the greatest thing but in palate it didn't workout and now a mess i hope we're not getting to a situation we think we've thought it all but noted think about the practical use of this grid and then 10 years from now or 5 years from now we'll complain how it didn't work having focus groups with people in the communities and ask them how this will work we've asked for a focus group in the mission regarding the hundred and 27 parking spaces being taken out of potrero street and yet i think people use the neighborhood and use those streets should have a voice on who is happening i understand that budget are taught then why

are we doing parklet and taking parking spaces i mean it is privatizing public space most it is floocht of a cafe and restaurant i have to tell you i t i sat down in front of with a burrito - if we're strapped with cash let's stop private you tiger's those spaces whether you have a car or not so we can recapture some of the revenues and small businesses on 24th street we put a band on parklets we'll not support parklets on 24th street a lot of the restaurants and a lot of the the barkries they rely own people that once lived in the mission and were forced out to come back

and buy their products they need those parking spaces i don't think it make sense especially, when roles and dozens of parking spaces are taken away i guess what i want to say is you know if we talk about choices and let's talk about all choices and i would love to rides muni if i felt safe if i felt it was clean and it worked but i don't as a san franciscan i don't and i should i would love to ride my bike if i felt safe with other cyclists but i don't but all i'm hearing in mta

parking this and that and parking development and parking you know taking away parking it forces people to zero which with you say zero transit first or whatever the term this is not our choice no choices there are few choices limited choices if we're going to talk about choices is where an honest dialogue that's why we invited mta to come not utility mta and the services it provides part of city; right? a lot of city workers my brother is a city bus driver in san francisco it is great but we've got to make that work for everybody is back to my original question who defines quality of life and for whom you

can have a lot of young folks working at mta who have not had to worried about what is like to be older making decisions for our seniors and it is not you know - so i agree with you let's think of the big picture and talk about choices we can get there i think you have a commission that licenses especially to the people of the city and we also want to make that work for everybody and sometimes that means we agree great and if we don't agree let's figure out a way to make it a practical way we have wonderful community organizations and folks that are very interested they're at mission bay they've done a job and people in the mission and people from all parts of city that would love to participate

and who are investors here not just going to be here 5 years and put mayor stamp okay. now you can leave but live and stay here those are the people i know have a lot to say we've seen so much happen to you appreciate you and thank you for being here i don't know if i have questions or just talking but those are the things brought up over and over again and hopefully, a conversation with ed reiskin and others members of his leadership team or with the commission themselves as peers we all work on policy to make the city a better city for the residents so we'll be happy to do that thank you, again. >> thank you. >> i think we have one more question. >> one more question can you

refresh what was prop l rejected by the voters. >> i don't want to guess but basically, it was asking the voters to ask whether mta should be building more off-street. >> that was providing more parking the things i've called in the presentation and voters like 72 to thirty something. >> it ivy know that commissioner will probably explain this further that would be great if we have the overview of caltrain and bart's more of a global view you know of the transportation situation is going to be in the next 10 to 20 years you're only representing

mta what are the other options more of a request for our executive director to consider but this other piece is at one time i recall it was ex-this commission or a private sxhfgsz a discussion around water ferries or again maybe it was a meeting with other you know like caltrain and bart and also the ferry sausalito and the ferries but other discussion about utilizing the docks you know hunters point shipyard and you know by the water there would be smaller water fairs and the south bay and things like that that would be more options for us the residents in san francisco and those who come here especially during game days

and things like that i don't know if there is a the conversation or mta is talking to the other departments that would be great to have the global view of what to expect to questi have the physician information. >> the transportation authority's governs that and the same way as bart's. >> you work with them your sort upgrades u you know checking what other agencies are doing for as far as addressing the transportation issues. >> yes. obviously the waft we develop those areas that's an option we look to see if we can activate it. >> okay. thank you. >> okay well, hopefully, you have food for thought. >> i appreciate there is a lot

going on i learned a lot today so - >> the nice thing we live in different neighbors so i think that you know at least i take away in exchange the fact that people live in hilly and closer to the center and sometimes, we come up with the exact same concerns which says to me it is more than what is happening in our neighborhoods. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> okay great let's call the next item. >> the nobd is item of public comment on non-agenda items. >> any speaker cards. >> any individuals that wanted to speak on this agenda item. >> no?

okay all right. i see okay >> i was i thought we had a member and perhaps she left. >> please call the next item and nobd report of chair. >> i did not have a report next item. >> the nobd is item 8 the report of executive director 8 a informational memo release of request for proposal mission bay open space management for operation of public open space in mission bay north and south discussion and 8 b informational memo with the recognized payment schedules formal january 1st, 2016, to june 30th, 2016, with 2015-2016 b discussion madam director. >> commissioners i'll take 8 a first, it is actually a request

for qualifications for open space management services in mission bay as you're aware the mission bay open space is built out over time with the concert of private investment and other triggers in the owner participation architecture by the masters developer or mission bay development group currently, the agency has formed a cf d the special tax district for park maintenance that is a model in similar models we've employed in many of the project areas you have 8 or 9-c f d you serve as the separate and approved or disapproved from the agency capacity and strait sprat special tax by the property owners by infrastructure or maintenance and typically

affordable housing is exempt from those fees for the last several years the mission bay management group is the primary contractor for 6 years now and mgm kraktdz with a number of contracting firms almost 6 years ago for shaping and janitorial and securities we're not quite done with the parks in mission bay were about half done a number of parks coming online in the next 56 years and certainly there are almost 15 acres or so that are complete today so we do needs to provide continuous property management services you have a master lease with various e various arms of the city dpaeps and the puc and the ports it would be difficult to manage it with different multiple

actresses a lease agreements with the entities that own the fee and certainly at with disillusion we need to provide for a long term solution and transfer the park properties or terminates our lease arrangements with the city in piss various departments once the parks are complete we're working with the community to figure out an appropriate management structure many of those parks are actually subject to the public trust and the court have trustees obligations it is a complex system that merits appropriate long term health management as the parks get built out this r f q we are release in a week again for property management and landscape and security and all in compliance with our

non-discrimination purposing fte and mbe w b e policies and the like because we want to make sure there is a appropriate procurement and the length of time there will be becoming before you before the ebtsdz of the year with a expectation of m j m contract to complete the procurement process staff are here he see the senior real estate specialist and certainly available to answer any questions you may have. >> for clarification raw we have m j m. >> they're the primary contractor were mission bay parks and other happen to be other parks that m j m in our contractor for example, yerba buena gardens. >> so this rfp they can bid for it, too.

>> certainly the request for qualifications it own. >> to anyone. >> to anyone. >> thank you. >> okay so moving our on the next item the recognized payment schedule this commissioners is you're aware a twice yearly requirement the state denver through the disillusion you approve our budget on an annual that goes to the executive branch and the mayor's office and the legislative process through the board of supervisors there is an additional layer of review that the state requires every 6 months to that point the ousted boards recently approved the balance of our 6 month budget

consistent with the six months budget you approved we'll be coming back to you for the issuance of mission bay south bond for infrastructure now that more buildings are on the rules of law it is an opportunity to gather more tax increment for the straights and collecting property tax for housing we haven't implemented the process with the master developer during our cycle but coming back to you and the board of supervisors and the outside board for the infrastructure bones all other terms and conditions are the same as the budget you approved i want to recognize the budget person here and deputy director sally and other members of the staff available and ready to answer any questions you may have.

>> thank you that concludes my report. >> okay. he need to ask any comments cards. >> for any of those items. >> i have one corin woods item 8 a >> hi corin woods chair of cac i know you have to go through this period of time reelevation of mission bay parks management i just time you to be aware ami m j m has begun a job not only with the maintenance of the parks and the security but telegraph hill programming the parks to attract people to them and i'm hopefully that they come out on top on this rfp or r f q

because we have spent a long time work with them they were working with the community and quarterly parks meetings where the stakeholders and property owners and residents and businesses come and talk about the park system the mission bay neighborhoods is very engaged under our park system and we want to keep it the quality that we have now in exchange the vice president of finance. >> okay. thank you. >> please call the next item. >> the nobd is commissioners questioning and madam chair. >> any commissioner have a question. >> only about the sign by the

governor bringing back the development. >> oh, thank you commissioner singh this is really embedded in the rocks report and the memorandum the governor signed this senate bill 107 with the active bills 441 the governor thought was a good yesterday and incorporated it into the trailer legislation became effective cement accept 22 which allows the san francisco it was a larger bill that was a san francisco only portion that allowed for successor agencies ocii to have stated authorized be it therefore resolved authority to complete the housing program in

june you saw the housing annual housing report the 2 year housing report we have at least 3 three hundred if not close to 4 thousand more affordable housing to less to build the problem the cash flow issue waiting for the property tax to fill up so this legislation kind of like a mortgage allowed us to take what was due and pay back over time and accelerate our housing program so consistent with the raps we expect to put out more housing rfp 6 hundred more affordable units some in transbay and the balance of alice griffith and tax income a momental piece of legislation

that bend san francisco the senate bill tovn 7 and 82 the communities reinvestment i don't know the anarchy acronym but a tailored version of the redevelopment focusing on low income areas we have not had a chance to review and analysis what that means and successor agencies can't participate but potentially help others existing areas of the city very low income areas of city i can't - we're reilly looking at it with the city college to see how it benefits some of the areas we can't continue frankly as a result of disillusion so i think this is the reluctancontis