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>> city of san francisco >> police commission >> please stand by...

>> ladies and gentlemen, the chair has called the meeting to order. please turn off your electronic devices as they interfere with the equipment in the room. please rise for the pledge of

allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> president, loftus, i would like to call roll. >> commission president loftus, commission president turman, commission marshall, commissioner dejesus, commissioner hwang is excused, commissioner mazzucco, commissioner melara. and with us is greg chief suhr and office of complaint joyce hicks. >> thank you, i would like to welcome everyone to our meeting tonight. we have an incredible crowd of people who have come to the commission

tonight. we want to hear your thoughts and feelings. we want to hear everyone. in the north light court, there are other people who want to be heard. the sheriff's department is going to be coordinating that process. i want to let you know that it is my goal that we get to hear from everyone. it will take all of our participation to get to do that. based on the number of people and the long agenda that we have, it will be 2 minutes per person. byway for folks who don't normally come to the police commission. we will go over our agenda. you probably have noted that there is an item on discussion for use of force. we will have that discussion and we'll have the opportunity to hear public comment. it is important that we actually get a

chance to hear from everyone. please call the first line item. item 1. consent calendar. sf ptsd/occ document protocol quarterly report 3 quarter 2015. status report on general orders policy proposals third quarter 2015, request of the chief of please to accept donation of $300 to go towards the central station as youth engagement program. >> can i have a motion? >> motion and second. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? next item.

general public comment. city clerk: the public snout welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or occ personnel. under police commission rules of order, during public comment, neither police or occ personnel, nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public, but may provide a brief response. you have 2 minutes. public speaker: good evening, this is an inquiry for the purpose of determining the appropriate time to raise issues regarding alex nieto, mario woods and the whole lot of other people who have been affected by the

police killings here in san francisco can that be raised at another time. >> general public comment. go ahead. public speaker: good evening, commissioners, i believe the time needs to start now. >> please start the time now. proceed. >> good evening, commissioners, good evening chief, good evening to the people of san francisco. martin del campo, executive committee san francisco labor council. i rise for the purpose of exercising constitutional rights regarding the airing of grievances. i chose the place because there is not another place to do so. the recent killings have to be placed in the context. the context is what has been

happening on the issue of police killings at the board of supervisors, at the mayor's, at the dcc, the failure of leadership and why any discussion tonight that is not adequate is just not getting to the problem. i submit that the problem is clear, we have a problem with the laws that are so broadly established that permit the use of weapons inexcessively. and that's the first thing that any commission needs to do. the second biggest problem we have is the culture of the police department and that must be addressed. the basis of my statement is the following. what we have is a police

association that bullies the board of supervisors. it's a matter of public record that says that the board of supervisors can't talk about alex nieto which now results in the anger that we witness outside. so i don't appeal, i air on the grievances that this discussion so little so late is inadequate and in insult. if we can close to dear to -- door to hear the speakers. good evening, mr. washington. public speaker: unfortunately we are here today, not only san francisco, you see people all over the country, they are going to shine on san

francisco like never before. god works in mysterious ways. i'm not pointing the finger at anybody. i have known the chief for many years, i have known the mayor. i'm not here to impress bushth to impress on you all and the country and the world to know, we in san francisco, are in a black state of emergency. we have been for a number of years. i'm the only african american media person out with the migration. there is a few people there. let me go on. because of a tape that fred blackwell turned over to the human rights commission on why blacks were leaving and one was the relationship of the police department. now, that's not only here in san francisco. it's all over.

all over the world. so the thing about it is, i'm thinking and hoping and praying throughout this process we can have a real sit down and talk about policing. i'm out stuck in the migration trying to put the black people together. i have a task that is unreal. only god can lead me. i don't need your permission. i'm on a mission. i have to get my black community leaders together. with guided leadership, failed efforts and undermining our community that could be tolerated from this point out. my name is ace and i'm on this case. i hope you know chief and i hope we can talk about police relationships after the smoke clears. >> thank you, mr. washington. >> you're welcome. public speaker: good evening.

you know something, you all have blood on your hands, everyone of you police commission. how many times did we talk about him. i stood out there with greg suhr and talked about the taser and taser. we might give it to you but you have to have a defibrillators with you and cpr techniques. we have a young man that is dead right now. had those officers had a taser, he would be here. he might be doing some time for another stabbing. it's on your hands many don't blame greg suhr, d. a., it's you people. you have to own up for what you did. i hope it feels good.

public speaker: good evening. i don't have a long conversation. i came today. i went to the community meeting. you are -- you know i have watched this movie where black people are killed all the time all over this country. my question is and i know chief suhr. i'm not going to say i don't like him. if we are going to change -- anyway, my question is what are you going to do about this? all of this talk. we are not getting anything done. i want to know if there is anything going to be done. otherwise we are wasting our time. there is not being done about the others. i was a young man when they

killed a black man, shot him in the back without a cause. there is nothing to the police officer. now we have another case. the killing, a black man shooting him 26 times and now we all up in arms about it like it's something new and look at what just happened in chicago and all over this country. i want to know in san francisco what are you going to do about this in what are you going to do about it. if you are going to do something, chief, tell us what it is. i mean what can anyone in this room say that can change it. you can't change the circumstances. so i say to the board and i say to all of you if you are not going to do anything about it, it's just a rerun with treadmilling. if that's all it is, i'm going home because it don't make sense to

be with this. we are going to beat up on the chief and get another chief that is a member of the klu klux klan. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir, thank you for your comments. thank you, sir. >> so we can provide a brief response and given those questions, i want to indicate that based on the agenda tonight the chief is going over the steps that this department has taken and this commission is going to begin the discussion of dgo on the use of force. >> wouldn't it make sense to call a meeting with all of us to say, look, we decided to do this about it. so this ain't nothing but a charade. black people get killed every hour. this is nothing but madness. i

think there is a proper person to ask you, commissioners, to ask the chief what you are going to do. >> thank you. next speaker. public speaker: bishop king. we witnessed an assassination, a hate crime and straight up murder many i think the law already speaks to what we do to murderers. we arrest them and convict them and send them to prison. chief suhr is being demanded of

this community to step down in a noble way without putting pressure on the mayor with his own problems. there is no justification in sight that we need to see this man needed to be executed. 10-12 officers can't talk a man to put a knife down. 10-12 officers that couldn't talk this person to put a knife down. we don't want to talk about tasers and shields. what has happened has to be answered in a forthright way. if the chief continues to defend the right to murder and kill and slaughter with people on the street under his command, then he becomes the coconspirator to murder. anybody else here in this commission that is going to justify,

defend, murderers on the street then you are contributing to that. as the african american relation board we have policies that will deal with this kind of stuff, but the administration before you thought that we needed to disengage them. i would ask the question where is your personally hand picked advisory board and what did this do to factor in to keep this racial thing from happening. >> understand we are a policy board. understanding that we are a policy board, what does the african american community relations board that you say represent, what do you want to see us do? >> we would like you to move with your full power recommendation of the chief to step down in a very noble way. we

would like those officers that are on leave that they be suspended of pay and to take away that whole idea that if you want a vacation all you have to do is kill a black man and go on administrative leave. we want their pay suspended and we also want to see them arrested. if you don't have that power, we would ask this board to recommend to the chief that he have or the d. a. have those men -- arrested and booked for murder. we would also like to see the videos from the case on third street. kenneth hardy videos that's been held

in hostage need to be released so we can see what happened on third street when that young man was killed. we would also like this commission to entertain the reengaging the african american police community relations board. not an advisory board, but a relationship with the police department as a bridge from the community to the police department. >> thank you, bishop king. we are going to change the mic out. it looks like there is some technical difficulties.

>> i believe there is a technical issue. is the volume all the way up.

>> chairman, susan loftus. to all the commissioners, chief suhr, ladies and gentlemen, my name is brown, president of the san francisco branch of the national association for the advancement of colored people and i have been pastor at baptist church for 40 years. i rose to say join russel says , wants to every man and nation comes a moment to decide in the strife of truth

and falsehood for the good are evil side. my friends tonight should be for this commission and this entire city. not a time to debate, but a time to decide to do the right thing. that right thing might be for you to respectfully consider is no. 1. follow the program. that naacp presented to you over a year ago, and unfortunately has not been acted on. didn't even follow through on the admonition. just do it. what do you need to do? not to

get seals when you have persons who unfortunately don't have sense. the sense to know what to do. >> thank you, sir. >> with tasers. >> please let the next speaker talk. >> reverend brown, i would like to hear further your thoughts on this issue. >> i would like to hear your further comments on the three point plan and

other discussion. >> three point plan on cultural relevancy training for all cadets, and for all officers in this police department. that would involve people not just talking theoretically from just a left brain approach, but also talking left brain right brain with persons from this community. from history and the compassion to come to that academy and sit with the officers as was done during the days of mayor willie brown and chief

sanders were leading this department. we did a great thing. we need to put that back into action. let the people come so that these officers will know that we are human. we are not a threat we are god's children and they don't need to be scared of us and we don't need to be scared of them when they show they have respect for our people. no. 2, it was referenced earlier by our bishop king that we need not just respect we need to have to hear

from the chief that our king mentioned earlier. not to be in the department or ego trip or power trip, but a board that has teeth that sits with the chief that communicates with this commission an we are acting on a crisis and we'll always move on a positive preventative measure. i plead with you all tonight. let us act like san francisco knows how to do it. we claim to be a liberal aggressive city. let us not live a lie. let us become truthful expressions of love, of justice, fair play,

equality of opportunity and when we do that, we will not have to come back here again to take up your time to say the same old thing that we have been saying for a long time. finally, just do it. make a vigorous effort to go across this country and recruit able confident compassion persons who happen to be african americans, latinos, for god knows there are others in the land who should be given a fair chance when we do this, when we smile, we'll be able to embrace each other and we'll

be able to say, look what we did for the betterment of our city and when we do that, no more blood will be spilled in this city, but we will have our young men in jobs, in school, at home, in their places of sacred worship living in people's conscious and goodwill. i thank you for your time. let's just do it. >> thank you, reverend brown. next speaker. good evening, ms. brown and welcome. >> my name is paula brown. as i come here every wednesday to the

police commission concerning my son. i would like to use the overhead. this is my son. aubrey abrakasa. to this day his case has not been solved. it's been 9 years. next year it will be a decade. the perpetrators are still running the street. the former mayor said i know who killed your son, the d. a. knows who killed your son, and the police know who killed your son. after this, nothing was done. all i'm left with is my son laying in a cascade and a mother crying over his body. ideal with this daily. i die daily. i don't fight for only

my child but all of these other unsolved cases of 81 men that have been murdered in san francisco. it needs to be solved so mothers like myself can be healed. this is what i'm left with my son that i don't have anymore. lifeless on a gurney. it's not like i can go have another one. i want my case solved so mothers like me can be healed. chief suhr, i don't have a problem. i think you should stay here on the battlefield to continue to fight for us. that's what i feel. all of this other stuff, i'm not understanding it. i don't agree with mario being murdered. he needs justice. hopefully accountable for another young

man. mothers, think about the mothers that are dying due to the police officers. think about the mothers. if there is anyone here with information on this murder. there is an anonymous tip line. good evening and welcome. public speaker: hello, i'm here today. i have never been to one of these things. i have never been involved in these kinds of things. my grandfather was one of the first black police officers in san francisco. he was a goodman who did his job well. when he passed many people showed up to his funeral to pay respects. that's what i'm thinking of. chief is is you -- chief suhr is rotten scandal, it's cost millions of dollars, there is

countless murders with people of color when they are suspect when they are actually victims. it needs to stop. black people are still here, we maybe less than 6% but we are still here and it's time for to you treat us with dignity and respect. i have been a victim of a crime and treated as if i were the suspect and told by the officer are you sure you want to file these charges, there are cameras and when i seen the report he said she's very sexual in nature. this is your police department that sends racist text at a kills people of color and steals from people and mocks people as they demand justice for black people and say that black lives matter. you should not be leading this police department, you should be fired, chief suhr.

>> you can file with the office of complaints. >> public speaker: i have lived here all of my life. you can see that i'm a believer in this city, but what i don't understand is is why would you do something like start a meeting by telling me to stand up and say i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to that republic for which it stands one nation under god and i'm not included as one of that people in that nation. and that justice for all means

justice for me and everybody else in this room. it's not centered around one group or one individual. i love this city. i'm a vietnam vet. i fought for this city, i love this city, but i can't stand to watch. that boy could have been my grandson. i'm 68 years old. the next one could be my great grandson. i can't continue to sit here and watch them be brutalized you have to do one little thing and that's to create no more harm. that's not that hard to do when you actually when you look at the person across from you and say that's my child and ask yourself the

question would i do this to my own. i pledge allegiance to the flag i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> thank you, sir. next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: good evening, commissioners, chief, members of the audience on both sides of the aisle. my name is lonnie fitch. i lost but i'm still being used. what you hear is a cry from citizens of san francisco before asking for loretta a lynch to come from capitol hill to assist.

training has gotten in the way. some police has been using a frivolous approach when dealing with the general public. i'm asking mayor ed lee to look at use the spaghetti approach before his next 4-year term begins. by not including police chief greg suhr and fire chief joanne hayes white to the city payroll. they are not elected officials. i'm asking mayor lee to look closely to the spaghetti thrown on the walls for the last 3 years by the san francisco police department and fire department to all standards not being used followed by a pattern of conclusion. misconduct, unsolved racial and defines on the public. the mayor must use the same

approach. tear down the whole and rebuild. i say solidify and become concrete. you have been given the iron fist and the velvet glove. meanwhile there needs to be 5,000 signatures to be attached to this affidavit so it can be placed on the mayor's desk. thank you very much. >> thank you. public speaker: hello, my name is michael pe trellis, mayor lee get out of city hall, come to the community for town hall meetings. my second item is about the report from occ.

there were six sustained complaints and not one officer is named. you received a report without one officers name disclosed in what they did. they were reprimanded in writing and i have no idea who they are. the problem here when we file complaints with the occ is police privilege. police privilege is when the police are given confidentiality rights that prevent joyce hicks and the occ from telling us who on the police force have sustained the complaints. you have to start disclosing names. my third item is, the police chief released hi calendar to me. here is the

police chief calendar laid out. tells me when he meets and how long and where he meets with people. it's a great document, chief. you e-mailed me yesterday and said this calendar of yours will not appear on your website. you need to understand community policing starts with real transparency. that means for the $300,000 you are paid, you are giving them loaders as your calendar on your website. everyday people should read your calendar. >> thank you, mr. pe trellis. next speaker. public speaker: good evening, my name is maddie scott, executive director for healing foundation in our nation. president chapter four, brady campaign and president for the san

francisco chapter of mothers in charge. i stand here on behalf of glinda woods and as a mother. i'm stand here on her behalf because she's not here to speak. i know we are angry and we want solutions and that's what we all came here for. my goal is to help gunda lynn woods, i think the commissioner should take into consideration. i have spoken to chief suhr about it and san francisco that this we need to pay for. question need to help her lay her son to rest peaceful and move

forward on our agenda about better policing and about sensitivity training and a lot of things that will help us as citizens of this city and citizens of the cc. yes, i think we can work this out in the community. i'm angry but i want to challenge my anger in the right direction. working with all of us. this is about all of us or none of us. it doesn't look good in san francisco when you have the killing of alex nieto, gush and kenneth junior and now mr. woods. it took me back after we lost all of those lives. we have to look at that as a city. we don't want to talk about it, but we need to. there is something wrong here an i know we can fix it. thank you for your comments. next speaker.

public speaker: hi, my name is arlene ire son. i have been living in san francisco and paying taxes on my house for 30 years and part of operation ghetto storm which some of you may have heard of as the every 28-hour report. this is a report that is just found and itemized 313 killings of black people by police in 2012. one every eight hours. what i'm saying as a mother of two black sons who have each been brutalized by police since they were 9 years old.

is suhr is not the first chief to protect the police union. his tone deafness is exemplar by within hours of mario being murdered by a firing squad while dylann roof and the killer in colorado could somehow be captured without a scar. >> can we keep the door closed so we are able to hear the speaker, please. can we stop her time? please stop. thank you. this is your fault for not preparing.

>> how could you possibly have a hearing? they are white supremacist. there is no reason to have them on the force still. there has to be a policy to deal with this systemic problem.

next speaker, please. good evening and welcome. public speaker: i apology that people heard this comment on the news. i feel like i need to reiterate it this evening. this picture taken less than minutes before mario was shot, i believe demonstrates without any doubt that there was no reason for mario to be shot. you had nine cops there an injured man who after hit with bean bags,

pepper sprayed and you have nine cops there and they couldn't figure out how to get this man handcuffed without killing him. this is absurd. from this picture, the chief showed up with one second of video that demonstrated that mario lunged with a 4-inch knife. i don't care if mario lunged at everyone of these police officers. they were not authorized to shoot him. they should have had non-lethal weapons. the cops in the middle near the tree when mario slipped he did something completely stupid. he moved around in front of him and got closer to him. the only alternative would have been since the guy had not given up the knife since he obviously wasn't

completely there. the only thing he had in his hand was the gun. the only outcome of that scenario as he got closer to mario, he's going to have to shoot him. on the other cops shoot him. >> thank you for your comments. >> i want to remind everybody the goal is to hear from everybody. any conduct that disrupts our ability to hear everybody -- i want to remind you, your conduct is interrupting our ability to hear from everybody. thank you. i would like to hear from the next speaker.

next speaker. guys, we really want to hear from everybody. i hear you and i want to hear from everybody. i hear you. i don't want to have to -- thank you. i don't want to have to recess this meeting. thank you. thank you. next speaker. thank you. >> next speaker.

next speaker, please. >> he's here to stand in solidarity with the community. sf preponderance pd is unaccountable. sf p.d. is systemic. sf p.d. is seeping in racism. the failure to release crime statistics, rape kits, prevent

whistle blower retaliation and failure to release sting operation and the failure to create a culture of integrity that would prohibit officers from joking about killing unarmed civilians over coffee and donuts caught on video. the culture of a union that is determined to bully leaders and anyone that might disagree. the culture of killing mentally ill citizens instead of crisis intervention. we must hold chief suhr accountable as gary and the mayor. we must hold chief greg suhr and mayor ed lee accountable. 70% of the officers do not live in san francisco and chief suhr doesn't see this as a problem. he

asks which side are you on sf p.d. and the police commission. the league of voters is on the community side and the community demands that chief suhr go. >> thank you, next speaker. >> good evening mr. lacy, welcome. public speaker: good evening. my name is lacy. here representing the family of mr. woods. i'm not here to comment on the federal courts due to the unlawful and wrongful shooting and killing of mario woods. what i'm here to talk about this board and commission. one is to set policy. i understand the commission has the advice and suggestions by the mayor that you revisit the issue of

the use of force by the san francisco police department. i urge you to reach out to parties such as myself and others in the community who are present here today. i am here to talk more about the second function of this body which is to offer discipline that have abused the mighty power and authority that we have given them. right now mario woods' body lays with 21 bullet holes, 21 in his body because of and egregiously, egregious force. chief suhr is to step down. i'm not here to tell you that needs to happen to rectify the wrong that has been done then this commission needs to

take the authority and stance to do so. but definitely what needs to happen is the officers who were involved in this perpetration of injustice need to be held to full count of law. that's what your job is. i'm going to do my job in the courts. you do your job here. public speaker: i come here tonight because the number of things it's not just the police department chief suhr, it's the whole san francisco period. i just found out today that a home girl of mine was murdered who was wheelchair

bound in the alley, a dark alley and it hasn't been any mention of it. this is the young woman, this is the older woman murdered clothes ripped off her and i had to hear it in the streets. it's the same thing that's going on with our community. it ain't just the police killings, there is no solving of anything dealing with black folks.

we have black on black crime that have not been solved. we have mothers that are grieving for over 20 years. over 20 years because nobody can find out who killed their children. not all of it because we have gang violence. >> thank you, sir for your comments. thank you. thank you, sir. next speaker, please? public speaker: good evening,

ma'am. >> i'm woods grandmother. i have contemplated, i have prayed. i

don't understand how a knife take all those officers to shoot him down. i don't understand that. i don't understand, and it's breaking our heart. i'm asking the chief of police to resign. i'm asking for the five officers that did this to him sensely. it only takes one bullet to kill anybody. one bullet, not 22, 25. they are trying to keep up with chicago. i heard a kid tell his mother, i'm not going to police because they are killing people. that's ridiculous. they are supposed to be civil service. they are supposed to protect for us. now, that's what i want. i want

you to resign and the five officers that did this, i want their job and be brought a bunch of charges because it was senseless. >> thank you, ma'am. next speaker. public speaker: my name is deandre with the incarceration efforts. their lives don't matter, but it does to many of us. i will be goddamned if i'm going to be a good german to say it doesn't happen and say it won't happen to me. as german, what happened when that war ended. people are just as guilty when

they gassed the jews. yes, sir, you should be fired, the officers should be fired. you are a murderer. you need to be tried and convicted of murder. these are basically to take his murder and turn it around and allow them to do even more. tasers, batons kill people. they could not take down a man without shooting him. that's the point. it's open season on black and latinos. no matter what they have for weapons, they are going to end up shooting people. this has to stop, these meetings have to stop, hash tags have to stop and i say with a we need to do is is take this to the streets. take the example from ferguson and chicago and let's show them

what san francisco really is, but beneath the facade of this liberal city is a cesspool with racist tactics attack and all of this other stuff. we have to shut it down. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening. i wish i did not have to come tonight. i'm not sure that you have already heard it loud and clear. it's time for transparency. remember maria cohen and london breed saying that san francisco is not ferguson. san francisco with

worse than ferguson with all the killings we've had this year. it's time for this commission to actively diligently look at policy and procedures that are being violated about the lives, the lies that we hear. the community that is deeply insulted. those lives are insulting our intelligence. we are going to hear from mario's organizing community forming in bayview. it's longer review and it's going to be nationwide very soon. you see that new yorker is picking up a couple of fines. yes, i'm asking for your resignation, chief. i'm asking for ed lee to resign

or do his job and asking to examine her position now, the statement made and the kind of support she's going to give to the people. thank you. public speaker: good evening. i'm speaking for san francisco. how do you feel being part of the most genocide city in the united states. how is it this population shrunk to 3% which is 56%. that statistic is the epitome of the united states. united states is the epitome of locking black people up. of killing black people. you have to make a viable change now because of prop 47, we have hundreds of millions that can

come down. you have the resource to go to disfranchise areas to housing. if you look like me, you don't deserve it. you have individuals that look like me should be on the police force. if you have so much problems with the police force, change it. wipe everybody out. i know in another city in new york when they had a killing just like this, the police stopped patrolling in the neighborhoods and every disfranchised neighborhood, there was not one 911 call, not one robbery, not one crime. that's a bigger city. this city is getting ready to blow up. when it blows up, how do you feel? how do you feel when you walk down the street and so many homeless is there.

you make 3,000$3,000. how do you make this. my organization is is all of us or none. we are right down the block. i will personally come meet with everyone of you if you decide to make a change. we've been over here helping with legal services for the last 37 years. all of us have been for the last decade helping the poor and disenfranchised. i implore you to take that money and do some viable programs. please place it with somebody. >> thank you for your comments. thank you. next speaker, please.

>> what i want to address is the fact that as you can all see our community is broken, our hearts are broken. the travesty that has happened is very personal. so, what i want to talk about is an opportunity for the community to come together with this commission as well as the police department. i believe we need to really sit down and be conscientious as ms.

brown stated to go into academy and do the sensitivity training and allow our community leaders to establish a trust relationship with the heads of the precinct. we also need to empower the d. a.'s office throughout the neighborhood courts to bring a viable court system to the bayview. these neighborhood courts will work all over the city, but we have never been able to get it to work in the bayview. what that means is you have community members on those panels when you have complacent occur in the community as well as particular officers that you may have problems with and lastly we also need to do a recruitment of actual persons who are interested in being in the department and also to begin to

mend the broken relationship because at the end of the day, we have to have someone to come there to be there for us. the duty of the police officer is to protect and serve. that's what we want. we want protection, service and we want the officers to also know that the community will wrap our arms around you as well. we want you to go home to your family members, but at the same time we need you to value the citizens that you are assigned. >> thank you, ma'am. thank you for your comments. >> public speaker: any other name is frank williams director of the

program. i'm here for two reasons. one is to say to my elders who have been in these different positions for many years and part of our status quo need to step down themselves. we have a gang of youngster out here whose voices are not being heard and former incarcerated as well. we are working to build a leadership in this town. we went from 1989 to 3%. the problem isn't just with the chief. the problem with the mayor and the problem with some appoint ees of the mayor and moving out of their homes and justify the increase over the last 3 years that came into this town and our people are leaving this town and they

can't afford this rent. that man was executed. i want to say a gunshot and a black male hit the concrete like a sack of potatoes. people were startled and people were scurrying and some people were running from the scene, the scene where that crime took place. the scene, the scene, the scene where that young black male met his fate. he met his maker calls that young black male to lose his life. a misplaced hatred and leaves the family to question, why, my baby. a mother cries. why those that gather around

question god, question ourselves. why did this even happen trying to justify a police running in front of that man and they are going to say he launched at that man. >> thank you, sir. thank you. public speaker: good evening, first of all, my position is i'm a soldier of the cross. my position is i'm a deacon. my name is wade.

i'm here to present solutions. i have prayed, i have asked the lord to lay on my heart how we can eliminate this senseless killing of these young black young men. five solutions, short and sweet and to the point. the damage has been done. now we need solutions. solution no. 1. the implementation of a black police chief. no. 2, hiring and balancing the number of black police to the equal number of white police. no. 3, and every predominantly black community there should always be one black officer with one white police

officer. there should never be two white officers paired up in a black community. no. 4, this is with changes of procedures and policies which is long over due. no. 4, the only time a police officer should use lethal force and allow to shoot above the waist only when confronted in any type of firearm so there is a gun, cross bow and arrow shotgun, last but not least, this mainly should be changed. solution no. 5, any hand held weapon such as a sword, machete, hatchet, axe, knife, club, baseball bat, rocks, bottles or hand forced object

that are not dangerous or lethal danger in the category of a firearm, it would be mandatory that police shoot only below the waist preferably below the knees and legs. that's what it should be. >> thank you, sir. >> deadly force should be used when a person has a firearm. after that the person should be shot only below the waist. >> we got it. you can give that to our secretary. thank you. >> good evening, welcome. public speaker: good evening. my name is alfred robinson. i'm a retired san francisco police officer. i was born and raised in san

francisco. i am a deacon at third baptist church. pastor dowell is my pastor. i came to the police commission hearing to express my concern for the use of deadly force by five police officers against a black man carrying a steak knife. several officers approached woods concerning the alleged assault at approximately 4:30 based on a complaint by a man at san francisco general hospital. now that woods is deceased, we don't know if he was defending himself against the person who he stabbed. we have no information on what occurred during that assault.

after being based on what was reported in the newspaper by chief suhr after the officers used a beanbag arrest -- car triple -- cartridges and used a high power beanbag and mr. woods fell to his knees. i don't understand how you can have over six officers surrounding a person whose on his knees and they can not apprehend him. every officer is issued a 24-inch baton.

>> thank you, mr. robinson. we have to treat everybody the same and give everybody 2 minutes. >> my name is andrea robinson. i'm a teacher. i'm an sf teacher. my issue is i teach in the communities that we serve and my students have fear and that's not okay. if i'm standing here as an educator telling my students that it's necessary to get their education for what hope? they don't have hope if they are looking at people who are supposed to protect them. so my question is how is the additional discharging of weapons justified and what is the justification of shooting him over 20 times

once he was already on the ground. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker? >> good evening, pastor mcbride, welcome. public speaker: pastor mcbride, pico california. i understand it is tactics and strategies for policing. you must understand that we are not at a moment right now where policies and practices are going to answer where people are. chief suhr, you have lost the trust and faith of the community regardless as to how anyone feels about that. it has been lost and we must understand that even though black people in san francisco only make-up 3% of the population, we all know that the police only have contact on a regular

basis with 3- 6% of the population where usually the majority of that population is 70-80% black and brown people. so the trust that you need to police in the city is not with it's white residents. it is with the black residents and the trust has been lost. there is a lot of policies and practices that need to be put in place that can help to think about police legitimacy, procedural justice, tactics around the mentally ill. until you get the trust of the community which means chief, you have to go. and here is the last thing i'm going to say to this commission, you cannot ask anybody in this city to be peaceful until san francisco police department is peaceful. you can't ask young people to be peaceful until the department is going to be peaceful. when we were raised sit

ting in the class with dr. marshall, he talked about the commandments and the hood that we needed to apply to reduce violence. well, there is some commandments that san francisco people have. we challenge these commandments that say you shall be able to kill a black person when they don't comply. we reject the commandment that says if you are mental ill and homeless, you are going to die on the street. chief, it is time for to you resign. i say to the commission, the worst that you need to do around the practices, around the policies, around the training to restore legitimacy, that cannot begin until you get to a place of trust. i close with this: if you don't want any people to get hurt in this

city, somebody, i recognize the choice is not with you all, but you are going to have to use your relation at equity to get justice for mario woods, justice for the community. i implore to ask the commission to do what is right. >> good evening, sir and welcome. public speaker: i'm here to speak for mario woods. the stuff going on today has been going on for a very very long time. my father was killed by a san francisco police officer in 1972 which is now retired. he's at home living and my father is dead. a couple years ago, i was shot at 4-6 times by the sf p.d., case no.

95010463. i was shot by police 46 times and 19 bullets hit my car and by the grace of god, i didn't get touched. what they did is they covered it up and it's done. there is nothing else being done about it. i'm here today because that could have happened to me. i could be dead today. you know, i could be dead because they shot at me. aaron williams, he got killed on the dirt bike. so something needs to be done and these officers need to be prosecuted. if you can please write down this

number please. because you know what happened, i got pulled over in my vehicle a couple years ago. the case no. 950166403. the officer pulled me over because the person in my car didn't have his seat belt on. one of the officers that responded, he came up to me and stuck his hand out to me to shake my hand. i looked at his badge. his name tag. you know what he told me. he said i apologized. i could have took your life because he shot at me 21 times. that means he unloaded his handgun and still was shooting at me. >> i'm asking for a representative from the office of citizens complaints to meet with you so he can follow up. thank you, sir.

next speaker? public speaker: how are you doing. any other name is gary busier, an educator. i work with the young people here. the day that mario woods was killed i was working and running a class 5 minutes away from the scene. my question is how can you look at a mother in her face after her son has been shot 25 times by 6-10 officers and call it not even looking at his race, not even looking at his mental status, not even looking at the community but filing that protocol. she has to bury that man. when he was trying to walk

away from a situation. i don't know what people's problem is around mental instability. first of all, chief suhr is, you need to go before we force mayor ed lee to push you out. after that, we need to charge these officers with murder. he did not need to lose his life. i'm a young black man born in america and born and raised in the bay area. i work inside the community. i have been shot at by the police. how am i supposed to talk to my students. i have a student outside who is 15 years old, a freshman that i work with everyday. how can i tell him that he's safe in his community when he has bodies like him laying on the floor? if we can't get justice here we'll take it to the d. a.. if the d. a. can't talk to us, we'll go

up and find out what we can do to start a movement to clean up this situation. >> thank you. next speaker. good evening, sir and welcome. public speaker: good evening. i'm uncle bobby, the uncle of officer grant. i am sickened by what i have seen and this is for chief suhr. chief g of the police resigned. chief lee of the sanford police department, the one responsible for trayvon martin, resigned. chief lee who used to be in baltimore. chief thomas out of ferguson resigned. the chicago chief is going to

resign this system, the very foundation of this country is imaging on black lives matter. for a person sitting in your seat, i want you to know you are going to be responsible for a major unrest that is going to take place because of you. that was an execution. never in this country have we seen on video how officers have conducted themselves on an arrest. what's happening right here is getting ready to spread. i suggest to you to resign. to make yourself look good before we run you out of here. the commission, you have a responsibility to not give him them tasers. this is behind to give him the tasers

so he doesn't have to deal with it. my nephew was murdered. i'm angry. we have a community that is outraged. pay attention. when i say this system is hemorrhaging on black lives matter, you are going to be accountable if you fail to do your job right. >> thank you, sir. next speaker. public speaker: i will tell you what, there is nothing new under the sun. okay. you all have been doing this for a long time since the beginning of this country since this country started. we are tired of it. i will tell you one thing that's changed is technology. now we have see what you are doing. when you are doing it. we can see it and everybody see's it, the whole world seen it and you are accountable

for it. i'm not going to come here and tell you to fire him, but he does need to get fired. i'm not going to tell you to fire him. i'm not going to come here and ask you for justice. i'm going to tell you justice is coming for you. >> next speaker. good evening sir is, and welcome. public speaker: i'm a family member of mario woods. this is my cousin. i want you to all look at him. he's a person. he's a person like you. he deserves to be breathing right now. greg, chief suhr, we are asking you to resign. this is what we want. you lied to my aunty and a person that rides in a car with a murderer, what is he, an accomplice, that's what you are. you are the head of it. if you feel this is right, you deserve what happens, not my cousin. we

have six names. we are asking to you release the names of all officers involved. we are asking to you give my aunty a personal apology. i want you to apologize to her. she didn't know that was her son on the ground and nobody cared about it. you need to pay for his funeral and i know chief, you need to do him right. i want a federal investigation iechl -- i know you guys don't investigate yourself many we want all five officers to be charged. ed lee is going to get his, marshall, nobody spoke on you. i believed on you when i was on the boys including. i grew up looking at you.

i'm sick of looking at you. every time i come to one of your public meetings. you look so bored. i'm sick of looking at your [bleep] face. public speaker: good evening, my name is charles grace. i'm with the united coalition. 12 years to be exact down in third street where the chief was the captain there. we don't understand a lot of things that go on. as far as the grass roots people because i think that's a problem with the middle class african americans speaking for the grass roots,

people that are out in the struggle and it needs to stop. we need to have a voice too. it's always those angry black guys stirring up more mess. and everything getting buried, swept under the rug.. we don't hear nothing else like the man shot out in front of the opera house. we started a concerned citizens committee. we knocked on doors, the mayor wouldn't respond to us. nobody responds. if we are going to get something done, you have to hear from the people that's in the struggle. the grass roots people that's been in the trenches doing the work. that's all i say. you know, it's got to be some kind of dialogue that we can create that we can publically get some understanding on what's going on in our community. until we do, it's going to always continue to be the same. it will be swept under the rug

5-6 more years go by, maybe not even that nowadays the way it's going. african american males are being shot in the streets, cold blooded, murdered. like i said, i remember when wendy brought mario home as a little baby. you know, just like a lot of the african american males that struggle today. then all of a sudden it's mental health issues and all of these different issues but he started out as somebody's child. we need to resolve all of this stuff by talking to some of the people out on the streets that understand what's going on to help the situation. >> thank you, next speaker.

>> good evening, sir and welcome. >> my name is daniel garcia, brother of mark garcia at the officer that was charged where my brother was murdered at. you need to stop disrespecting the community. my family is 4 generations here all the way to the bloody strike of '34. these protocols, why you new rules and training, they are not following it. the seven officers that were involved, didn't follow it. they were charged by the occ. nine violations of their general order in the protocols. and you know what happens, your mayor brown told the occ if they

don't drop the charges, she's fired. so my brothers case, they got away with murder. don't let this man get away with murder again. justice, for mario woods and all the people that this man murdered. >> next speaker, please. public speaker: my name is frank lara.

a teacher in the mission. i remember these meetings and we get stuck trying to talk to the people in the mission. with the people watching at home and people are watching this over and over. this is really important. one of the commissioners here, thomas, when we are were doing the andy lopez case and getting fired up, he said you need to respect chief suhr to see how independent it is. we saw it with eddie lopez with 40 bullets in his back and with lopez who seemed to have a big machete in his hand and got shot six times in the back, the same thing with this case. the reason why we need to do that because they are going to funnel this through a process. they are going to tell us that's the process. it doesn't matter how high it goes, it's all corrupt.

they have all been placed that way. you at home have to see. i'm a teacher on the executive board. i can't keep talking about equality in the classroom and that you are going to provide a better world because that boy, 26-year-old made the decision that we tell our little children to make, pull away from a situation. pull away. and what did they do? they executed him. you at home you have to make a decision. all the cops here in san francisco makeover $100,000. look it up. we used to organize from muni over $100,000. the chief makes over $350,000. you can't hire a teacher. you at home have to make the choice. if you are a nurse, you are union, if you are an nurse and fighting the

union rights. think about who these people are bringing. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. good evening, ma'am and welcome. public speaker: my name is jeannie demayo. i have an african american son. i just want to say that i feared for him growing up everyday. he's had encounters with the police. he's been roughed up. he does not respect the police department. he would never call you unless

something happened to his children. his friends do not respect the police. i do not respect the police. when i was in college, i had a professor at san francisco state and he said to use words and to communicate effectively it took a very high minded person. i worked all day like most of these people here and i stood outside. i take care of older adults and i came here because when i seen that video, my son showed me before i went to bed, it

made me puke. and i fear for my son, i fear for my relatives and i fear for some of the black men that live in san francisco. it was an execution, trust me. i have been around the block and you will not go to heaven. >> good evening, ma'am and welcome. public speaker: i represent the black lives in san francisco. several of my family members have died from cancer in hunters point. we are

here to demand justice for mario woods and charge the city of san francisco with genocide. you have people out in the hall and not here for public comment, that is a crime. it is public comment and the community is grieving. what you are doing by is by keeping these people outside like they are animals and this is a zhao it is i'm sure your family members in this country >> you pay respect to the people of color and the people by being

silent you are being complacent. you can't accept a paycheck >> you forget that these people are human beings. i have to walk through the backdoor like an airport screening because we are here grieving for a black man's life. for you guys you felt you had to screen us and wand us down with metal detecters. you assume the worst of black people and that's a problem. racism is a disease, all of your minds is rotting the minds of the entire police department. the entire city of san francisco. it's unjust. i'm angry and sad.

it's evil. this is evil that's happening here in this country. >> can we let the sheriff's department there are more seats. next speaker. public speaker: my name is regina callaway. completely gentrified community. i'm here because i'm angry, frustrated and i'm looking among these faces and seeing faces that are asleep and this is not the last time. we need you to wake up, mr. julius. chief suhr, why do you train your officers to fear blackness.

because it's clearly a racial issue. when we have an incident of a white man who waved a knife at you guys, spell your police car and took oun a high speed chase and he's not dead. but you see a man named mario going through a mental moment and all he needed was help and you didn't give him help. you killed him. you shot him over 25 times. this is a crime. we are supposed to be that police are supposed to protect us. police slammed my pregnant sister. how do you believe we are supposed to trust police. we have homeless women having babies on sixth street. we are spending money wasting on you and you are not doing your job. this mother needs justice.

we have our demands. we want you fired, we want you to pay for this funeral. the funeral she wants it to be $29,000 that she wants trt -- from the city to bury her son from a proper burial. you need to pay for that. because you are a reflection of the community. we appoint you and you need to bring justice for us and it's not happening. it's disgusting and sick that san francisco only has 3% of black people. that makes no sense and we built this city. you set us up in the bayview to get all of those toxins and you want to bring in this new community. it says nothing about the community. it was all to protect the income and residents coming in here and crime has been going down. you don't care about us and you want to over police our community and put us in danger when you

know that police brutality has been going on. i can look at your faces and see no compassion. >> thank you, mam. thank you informfor your comments. thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. thank you. thank you. ma'am, thank you very much. thank you for your time. >> we have to apply the same rules to everybody. we have to apply the same rules. thank you. next speaker, please. good evening and welcome. public speaker: you know why

you all got jobs? do you know where the police came from? they started out as slave patrols. they gave white vigilantes and free men. you are all unnecessary. we don't need you. all of this money you are spending, we don't need you. so let me give you a little notice. i wish i had a piece of paper to serve you notice. you are fired. you are done and we are coming for the rest of you all. we don't need you. i would suggest maybe you join a job corp, get some job training. this is done. this is over. >> thank you. next speaker. good evening and welcome.

public speaker: hi, i was born in san francisco. there is a clear list of demands. clearly they want you fired, sir. they want an apology, they want you to pay for the funeral. it makes sense. you are doing your ancestors proud. they have been getting away with murder for years. i know that you are proud of your heritage and where you come from. you are sitting here. >> ma'am, you have to address the entire commission. >> i will address everybody. you are all elected officials. i understand, you sit at the mercy of a white supremacy systemic situation. you are at the mercy of the system. you don't have much power either. you just have titles. god bless you, because the justice that mario woods needs is in the

lord's hands. god bless you. >> next speaker? good evening and welcome. public speaker: thank you. my name is david carlos. i want to recite a few names. nieto carlos lopez perez and now mario woods. is this a pattern in practice of extra judicial killings in san francisco? that's what we need to ask ourselves. san francisco is an exceptional city, liberal tolerance, free spirited except for the police department. have there been any discussions among you, members of the commission. has there been any outrage, any shame. policy and practice are what you guys are here to do, but you also by virtue of the fact that you have your positions, you have a

moral duty i think if the system is corrupt and you cannot change it, you have a moral duty to resign yourself in protest. we have a police leadership that cynically argues that tasers as if it's responsible for or blamed for deaths. we don't want the higher tech forms of violence over the lower forms of violence. we need new leadership to deescalate to military -- and this is a shrinking black and latino population. >> thank you.

next speaker. good evening and welcome. >> from the cofounder of the project and i'm based in oakland here supporting san francisco. after mario was murdered, executed in broad daylight in your city, i asked myself, how long. i posted on facebook as a matter of fact. how long is it going to take the chief to come out to tell the community we didn't see what we thought we saw in the video in how long is it going to take to understand the circumstances of that murder. that's the take. that's what happens every time. we see what happens and you tell us that we are not intelligent enough to under that we saw a black man gunned down execution style in broad daylight in the streets of san francisco and somehow you think that talking to us like we are children who have not been

examining watching studying in your study for hundreds of year as we figure out how to tear it down. you continue to talk to us like children and you are inciting the rage of the people. it's coming, the san francisco from baltimore to atlanta, there is a movement sweeping this country and we are not going to stop until you stop killing us we will continue to shut it down, interrupt your business as usual and interrupt your election cycle. i have news for you, chief suhr. we are going to continue until you resign or until you all have the courage to fire him. oakland will be here every time. next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: you all might

think i'm a little kid by saying this to you all but you are doing wrong by not letting people who have low income get hurt for what you all think they had or what they wanted to do. like, you all have no right to say that we as people should not have equal rights for white people or black people. we should have equal together. you should ge fired. you know he should get fired. if he shot your kid in there. would you be crying? that's all i have got to say. think about it in your head. >> next speaker? good evening and welcome. public speaker: this is my mario woods. i'm his aunty.

i'm andrea williams. i'm an educator. i come to you as a black woman that is an aunty, a sister, a daughter. i educate black boys and girls at balboa high school. i'm alumni of balance boa -- balboa high school. balboa is here for mario. i have four nephews. what you see is not a threat. this is a young man. excuse me, he's 14. he's a boy. don't make our boys out to be men. because when i met you, you said i can call you that. officer is suhr, chief suhr. you said no, call me greg. when i met

you, when we invited you to speak out at our martin luther king jr. celebration last january, you spoke hope into our boys. you said that we could believe in the fact that the system is going to be better if we do the part of assuring that our students are going to school, ensure that they come from good homes, ensure that they come from a good description. you shook my hand. you offered jobs to my boys and girls. we had a personal conversation. when i look at you and i don't see an -- emotion. i thought i was speaking to someone who understood the struggle in

san francisco, but yet i see you as a perp. public speaker: we are livid. you are putting us in a situation where we don't have to teach about social justice, what you are doing is radicalsing them. they are coming to me and expecting people like me and ms. wirms -- williams and the beautiful faces and allies in this room to give them answers. i'm telling you, i'm running out of things to tell them, i'm running out of reasons to tell them about this system. we are ready to resist this.

not in the sense of student resistance. i know you are not afraid of them because you don't see them as taxpayers yet. increasingly adults are able to resist this in ways we are working with the workforce. as a filipino, that is your job as another person of color with relative privilege by the luck of the draw that you might be lighter or people might see you slightly differently. it's your job to put your voice on the line and be in solidarity with black people. if you are not righting for black people you are dealing with something you have not dealt with yourself. moreover you should not be blood related to a black person to understand that mario woods regardless of his background deserves the

same benefit of the doubt that these white boys who shoot up schools at planned parenthood get every single time. sometimes it's possible to get -- they can get a rubber bullet. yet they can't be brought in peacefully by a backup of professionals whose tax money my money is going to. >> thank you for your time. >> i don't want my money. >> thank you, ma'am. next speaker. >> thank you. we have to give everybody the same amount of time. it's based on the rules . i have to be fair to everybody. next speaker. thank you. next speaker.

good evening, sir and welcome. public speaker: good evening. i'm a close friend of the family. i grew up with mario a few blocks away. i have a couple of questions. one, do you believe mario woods deserved to die? two, what do you believe your police force could have done differently to prevent his murder? feel free any of you to answer because most of you, chief, you have been silent all night.

>> i'm sorry, the public comment piece, we are here to listen to you. it's not a question and answer. that is the rules as they are designed. go ahead. >> i have this to say and then i will go. i have this to say and then i will go. growing up in bayview hunters point there is a fraction of a relationship. you have the chance to somewhat rectify the situation by firing chief suhr and the officers involved with the shooting. if not, if nothing happens, if i see no action happen, if the community see's nothing happen as a result of this, then may the blood of mario rest in your hands and may the uprising that ensues be in your hands as well. >> next speaker, good evening and welcome.

public speaker: san francisco is guilty of genocide on murder grounds. greg suhr, you are the key enforcer of genocide and you need to go. however, we will bring that charge to the united nations. we will also bring to the d. a. and attorney general genocide for what killed mario woods. this is the body that elected this killer. this body is be holding to us to remove him from power like the people demand right now. we will call for the dissolution of this body for violating the laws of this state by refusing the public access to public meeting that is in their interest. furthermore we call for the

recall for those screaming for justice. as said, there will be no peace anymore. greg suhr, your day has passed. you can make whatever face you want because you know what i have said is true. your days are numbered. you are gone. we are putting you on notice. you are gone. any sick of looking body or politician -- we will not stop until that is achieved. all of these people of this community deserve a better city that deserve an end to this genocide and terrorism. we are not going to ask you or beg for it. we are going to [bleep] take it.

>> looks like we lost part of the mic there. public speaker: >> you have seen the whole world on our [bleep]. he needs some funding. explain that to the community. got that?

>> thank you. next speaker, please. public speaker: my name -- my son was murdered with the quadruple homicide 11 months ago. the four young men in the car. this man was trying to cash his check working at ben ihanas restaurant. four boys massacred, no arrest. 11 months later. not even one dime is put on their case even for a reward. then the lowlife --

this boy was shot down. you say it was justifiable prior to all the boys massacred in the city. you are saying that is justifiable. what do you thing -- think that we are supposed to do. the blood is on your hands. when did you think we were not going to rise to the occasion. my son was a member of the boys club. you were saying that you were going to be at my son's memorial service. you were not there. this is a backup of political rhetoric. we come to this office every other wednesday. we come constantly to your face and you do nothing about it. you sit here and play games like you are supposed to be helping us and you are not giving us any justice, any

comfort. i have not gotten a phone from the mayor. but yet you are going to give a plaque to katie steiner that said she was murdered on san francisco public streets. well, what about all of these black boys murdered in this city and you have not even acknowledged. what about all the mothers that are crying out for justice and what about you have your investigative team all of these unsolved homicides. you are shooting them. this butter knife. then all of these children. public speaker: next speaker, please. thank you.

next speaker please. we have to apply the rules fairly to everyone. next speaker. thank you, ma'am.

>> next speaker. we have to respect everybody's time here. next speaker, please. your time is done. if someone is disrupting the meeting, i'm going to have to go into a recess. i don't want to do that. next speaker, please. i'm sorry, ma'am. we have to respect the rules

here. sheriff deputies step back. this meeting is in recess.

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