states? >> there are white papers, academic papers and the longest-running program that we looked at was washington, d.c.. they have had their program going for 15-plus years and the effectiveness that we included in the report from washington, d.c. that would show kind of longest perof periods of time and other than there are academic articles that speak to the effectiveness. >> , as well as london and other cities as strategies you only looked at the speed camera and not other strategis is that right? >> correct, as part of the research we just looked at

that is a bit of administrative difference rather. one other to point out the citation fine schedule varies, new york with a $50 flat fine and chicago two two tiers for 10 miles per hour and three of the jurisdictions are the same as traditional tickets and three are citations. for enforcement is for the purposes of safety and not revenue-generating technique and to show how effective it

has been in other areas not just within the united states, but elsewhere and that have been used for a very long time. also to direct revenues to safety improvements and include school zones in the designated enforcement area we found that the studies that we looked at stated that the public is much more likely to support esu1 in school zones and cameras in high-priority areas where there are issues of speeding, encrypting data to ensure privacy and requiring reports of the metrics and evaluating the effectiveness is something that we have talked about here today. and in looking at these measures and seeing how effective they are. for example, new york is doing a five-year demonstration program and at the end of the five years

including meetings with members of our own delegation to bring that joined voice. we have met with each member of san francisco's legislative delegation and i would characterize our meetings at this point, prior to the city taking official action on legislative programs as building support, answering questions, looking for the kinds of issues that we and other cites are going to immediate to be mindful of as we develop draft legislation. san josé has -- you know, they have the chair of the senate transportation committee from san josé. san josé has adopted vision zero. los angeles has adopted vision zero. so the conversations that we're having now are really trying to build capacity on this issue and how it fits in the context of those cities that have already committed to vision zero and recognizing this will not be the single tool, but it's a tool that we need to have the state give us so we can use something that is

already proven. >> it sounds like a tremendous step forward. >> yes. >> and now with vision zero growing it sounds like there is a context of people really supporting this, hopefully. >> i want to believe that is true. i feel like there is reason to be at least optimistic, and we will need you all as leaders to be part of that. it's not going to be the staff; right? so it's going to be really important that we find ways to enlist you in that effort, too. thank you. >> thank you, commissioner yee. >> just wanted to say that i want to add more evidence to the fact that there is more interest in pedestrian safety issues. last month i was at a board meeting of the league of california cities, and so they went through the three-priorities for next year. and i think only had to mention it once about pedestrian safety to be part of their -- one of

the priorities, in which by itself, it did not make -- , but in terms of one of the priorities was actually talking about infrastructure. transportation infrastructure and so forth. and we'll be saying much more and other people saying what about pedestrian safety? and it's actually part of the language for the three priorities, which i don't think last year that would have happened. >> you mean with the league of cities? >> yes. >> that is great to know. i will tell that you megan i'm on the subcommittee of the league of california cities and sometimes when i sit in that room and represent san francisco you get a reaction. and in this case, when megan weir presented last june to the league transportation committee, there was a city council member from the city of fremont who came up you and was so inspired. they have since adopted vision zero. so i really appreciate

knowing that. thank you. >> if you can let us know how specifically each of us can be helpful? >> absolutely. >> making calls or visits? >> yes. >> i know each member of the committee wants to help make it a reality or looking through a list of legislators that we're trying to target, i'm sure everyone on this board is willing to pitch in. >> thank you, really appreciate that. >> yes. and i also want to thank the controller's office for their report as well. it's actually really helpful to see how this policy is implemented throughout the country and other cities. you know it was interesting to see how low the fines were. and also how the citation was done, whether vehicle and driver? i didn't think about how the policies are implemented and there is a lot of flexibility in how the policy can get written you and

hopefully helps us make progress in sacramento. there is a lot of different ways to implement this and still get drivers to move slower in san francisco. did you want to add to that?? >> no, just again where we're at being open to the very points what should the fine be? what should the threshold be? what is palatable? >> i like the speed zone idea with a lot of schools. >> i see some nodding from commissioners farrell and yee about liking the speed zones. okay. so see nothing further comments from committee members, we'll know open this up for public comment. we would expect walk sf to speak on the item. >> hello again, chair kim and commissioners,age deluca, the policy director with walk san

francisco and we have been working closely with the mta on the campaign. we're really excited that ase has been proven in reducing crashes and deaths and we feel in order to reach our ambitious goal of vision zero in the city we need every tool available and we really want this tool to help us reach that goal and walk sf has been doing different initiative and we have a petition on our website at walksan francisco and anyone in this room can go sign it now to help the cause. we also are getting our vision zero coalition members, the organizations to pass resolutions in support of ace and also send letters of support to their state legislators and we're also very happy to help this committee in in way possible with the ace campaign, as well as individual commissioners. so please lean on us if you need us. we urge you today to support this resolution and get us this

tool we need to reach this goal. thank you. >> thank you. is there any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed [ gavel ] . colleagues can we take action on this item? we have a motion to move this forward with recommendation? >> we'll take a roll-call vote. >> with recommendation. so we'll take aroll-call vote on item no. 7. >> item 7 commissioner farrell. >> aye. >> farrell aye. >> commissioner kim? >> aim ky. commissioner mar, mar absent. commissioner eyre, yee aye. >> item rests. >> thank you, and thank you for all your work on this and look forward to moving this forward. mr. clerk, can we please call item 8. >> introduction of new items, this is an information item. >> are had will any new items? i do have one. i want to take a moment to recognize an individual who has been a leader, an initiator and i will even say a

"trouble-maker." he was just here -- he was sitting here the whole meeting. when did he get up and leave? tim? oh, he left. okay. well, [laughter ] he was here -- we did have a certificate to recognize tim for his work as the vision zero co-chair along with megan weir and i know he is stepping down as co-chair, but we wanted to thank and recognize him for his leader and say it's been a real pleasure to work with tim, even if he isn't here to hear this, he has been a real pusher and believer and certainly given me and my office a lot of ideas on how to help move vision zero forward and it's so helpful, because i don't often understand the technical aspects of the engineer and

even the education and enforcement side and he has been super helpful and what i appreciate the most, he really believes in this and expediting through bureaucracy and not coming up with the reasons why we can't get it done, but really pushing on how we can. so we had a commendation for him. you i will leave it from someone from sfmta to give to him later and he can listen to our remarks at another time. so seeing no further introductions of new items, mr. clerk, can we please call the net item. >> we'll take public comment on item 8. >> so at this time we're open up for general public comment. >> yes. this is christmas season, ho ho, inside the church of jesus christ, parishioners worship and sing and the joyful christmas songs and holy cross bearing the heavy-duties of

mission of works and for husband and wife, for father and son, social leaders and followers, all holy pathway and [speaker not understood] bible teaching and instruction the law about the holiness and virtues of humanity and we start our -- the only way to change all of that back to security is to talk about holiness and discuss virtue of humanity [speaker not understood] joyfulness for christ to come to our world again, for

meditation -- for establishment of good virtue and all realistic areas to provide open mercy and holy law -- holding true in principle. god all mighty bless us all for this christmas holiday, amen, hallelujah. >> hello, for the last time i'mage from walk san francisco and i just wanted to mention something that is a big priority for walk sf and we want to make sure keeps moving forward. with all of the development in the city we're seeing more and more projects that are intensifying their usage, but aren't subject to the requirements of the better streets plan. so parcels that move from pdr to commercial have a lot more residents and people commuting to the site than they used to. but they are not required to have the same street

improvements that other uses would have through the better streets plan process. so projects are falling through the cracks and i know chair kim you and your staff have been working on trying to maybe have a legislative amendment to sort of fill the gap. so we just want to encourage that, and let you know we're really looking forward to working on that. and making sure that we get ahead of the curve, before sort of new areas intensify. we don't want to see them become high-injury corridors. so i think if we get those improvements on the ground beforehand we could really make a big difference and encourage you to work on that still. thank you >> thank you, cathy and thank you for speaking on each of the items. >> my name is sylvia johnson. i think that our abilities that we look into vision zero --

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>> thank you. thank you very much. is there any other public comment for general public comment? all right, public comment is now closed. i do want to thank all of the members of the public for coming to speak. it's a really important issue citywide and always important for the subcommittee to hear feedback from our residents on the issue. mr. clerk, are there any other issues? >> item 10 adjournment. >> great, meeting is adjourned and happy holidays to everyone! [ gavel ]

as a society we've basically failed big portion of our population if you think about the basics of food, shelter safety a lot of people don't have any of those i'm mr. cookie can't speak for all the things but i know say, i have ideas how we can address the food issue. >> open the door and walk through that don't just stand

looking out. >> as they grew up in in a how would that had access to good food and our parent cooked this is how you feed yours this is not happening in our country this is a huge pleasure i'm david one of the co-founder so about four year ago we worked with the serviced and got to know the kid one of the things we figured out was that they didn't know how to cook. >> i heard about the cooking school through the larkin academy a. >> their noting no way to feed themselves so they're eating a lot of fast food and i usually eat whatever safeway is near my home a lot of hot food i was

excited that i was eating lunch enough instead of what and eat. >> as i was inviting them over teaching them basic ways to fix good food they were so existed. >> particle learning the skills and the food they were really go it it turned into the is charity foundation i ran into my friend we were talking about this this do you want to run this charity foundations and she said, yes. >> i'm a co-found and executive director for the cooking project our best classes participation for 10 students are monday they're really fun their chief driven classes we have a different guest around the city they're our stand alone cola's

we had a series or series still city of attorney's office style of classes our final are night life diners. >> santa barbara shall comes in and helps us show us things and this is one the owners they help us to socialize and i've been here about a year. >> we want to be sure to serve as many as we can. >> the san francisco cooking school is an amazing amazing partner. >> it is doing that in that space really elevates the space for the kids special for the chief that make it easy for them to come and it really makes the experience pretty special. >> i'm sutro sue set i'm a chief 2, 3, 4 san francisco.

>> that's what those classes afford me the opportunity it breakdown the barriers and is this is not scary this is our choice about you many times this is a feel good what it is that you give them is an opportunity you have to make it seem like it's there for them for the taking show them it is their and they can do that. >> hi, i'm antonio the chief in san francisco. >> the majority of kids at that age in order to get them into food they need to see something simple and the evidence will show and easy to produce i want to make sure that people can do it with a bowl and spoon and burner and one pan. >> i like is the receipts that are simple and not feel like

it's a burden to make foods the cohesives show something eased. >> i go for vera toilet so someone can't do it or its way out of their range we only use 6 ingredients i can afford 6 ingredient what good is showing you them something they can't use but the sovereignties what are you going to do more me you're not successful. >> we made a vegetable stir-fry indicators he'd ginger and onion that is really affordable how to balance it was easy to make the food we present i loved it if i having had access to a kitchen i'd cook more.

>> some of us have never had a kitchen not taught how to cookie wasn't taught how to cook. >> i have a great appreciation for programs that teach kids food and cooking it is one of the healthiest positive things you can communicate to people that are very young. >> the more programs like the cooking project in general that can have a positive impact how our kids eat is really, really important i believe that everybody should venting to utilize the kitchen and meet other kids their age to identify they're not alone and their ways in which to pick yours up and move forward that.

>> it is really important to me the opportunity exists and so i do everything in my power to keep it that. >> we'll have our new headquarters in the heart of the tenderloin at taylor and kushlg at the end of this summer 2014 we're really excited. >> a lot of the of the conditions in san francisco they have in the rest of the country so our goal to 257bd or expand out of the san francisco in los angeles and then after that who know. >> we'd never want to tell people want to do or eat only provide the skills and the tools in case that's something people are 2rrd in doing. >> you can't buy a box of psyche you have to put them in the right vein and direction with the right kids with a right

place address time those kids don't have this you have to instill they can do it they're good enough now to finding out figure out and find the future for okay.

>> good afternoon, everyone this is the friday, december 11, 2015, meeting the public safety and neighborhood safeway committee of the board of supervisors i'm eric mar the change and to

my right is supervisor campos and ms. alyssa we're being televised by sophisticating thank you to jim smith and charles kremack to this is not live but will be posted on line and give us our announcements devices. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the january 5th board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you. i would to begin with voices of young people that are outside of city hall and marching on san francisco streets today. >> don't shoot. >> (repeated.) you guys hear me do not shoot. >> (repeated.) do not shoot. >> reverend black lives matter. >> as wear meeting hundreds of

young people that walked out of mission high school and high schools around san francisco from the reports of the weekly san francisco community school june gordon and galileo and lincoln and mission and gateway and many other middle school are participating i think a lot of the mercy housing are hands up don't shoot my hopes many mroflgz will treat them with respect their and right to protest is represented with that, could you please call the first item autopsy an ordinance amending the police code. people leaving or storing a load vehicle with a gun

>> the sponsor sponsor a supervisor campos that if you i want to note that this is a very important item for us and the scope of the original ordinances that focused on law enforcement personnel leaving fire arms in vehicles expanded to now politically to anyone that finds themselves in the city and county of san francisco who is a gun owner and makes the choices of storing their gun in an unattended vehicle we wanted it so in san francisco certain rules and procedures are followed we want to keep those guns from ended up in the wrong hands i look forward to hearing the public comment i want to say at the outset from the beginning we have pushed to move it this legislation forward as quickly as possible legally, however, things we have to do which one

of the things it is critical to meet and confer with the law enforcement personnel that work in the city and county of san francisco that can be a process that takes time and so we have started that process we're on a the middle of the process because of that once public comment is completed i'm to ask to continue this item to the call of the chair because of the meeting confer process not have this ordinance move forward until the process is completed we hope will happen in january of this coming year. >> thank you supervisor campos i wanted to acknowledge supervisor yee is a co-sponsor as well as myself and let's open up for public comment we have one card i know that r0sh89

wants to speak and ms. brown anyone else be please come forward that will be continued to the call of the chair after public comment. >> sir. >> go ahead walter. >> please store those guns safely because of those guns there is no no where to run no where to hide once e would you store them safely no where to run or hide keep is safe and raw you'll be safe by and by thanks. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> we're going to close public comment if people don't come up to speak right now. >> next speaker. >> hello my name is paulette

brown i'm here in respect to my son who was murdered august 14, 2018, he was shot with an semiautomatic gun thirty rounds into my son today his case is not solved i'm concerned about the gun violence that's been going around it says here that gunfire firearms are the third leading killer of children alps 1 to 17 how many guns are going to be on the street killing our children how many guns are brought out of trunk we think about the young man that did the mural was shot and that gun was stolen out of a police officer vehicle how many guns are going to be

stolen and who's account for our children where the guns are out of the police officers vehicles or whether their came into from our children buying guns illegally how long will the mothers suffer we say all lives matter black lives don't matter but all lives matter all i have left my son's death laying on a jury necessary and this is what cabin violence did for my son we want justice for our children keep our cases open and make those police officers accountable for what happened to laurel woods because u because the mothers never get over the pain by police or black a black

all lives matter thank you ms. brown. >> next speaker. >> my name is robert carrageenan supervisors regarding the storage of firearms in unattended motor vehicles some provisions in the section are unworkable for the ordinance one method of storage is to have a lockbox affixed to the trunk another allow able to have a lockbox permanently affixed to the vehicle underneath wants seat and shout out guns and rifles are covered under this case a lockbox would be bigger? not going to fit under the seat of a car and many cars who's trunks are two small and having a lockbox in plain

sight is an invitation for thieves to steal and in addition people you get or often travel with people that go to fire ranges and permanently attach two or three lockboxes is unworkable thank you. >> is there anyone from the public that wishes to speak public comment is closed. >> mr. campos. >> thank you very much again, i want to thank the speakers and i especially want to acknowledge ms. brown for coming to this board time and time again to remind us of the tragic lives that the tramples that have taken the lives of so many people because of gun violence and noted because of the meeting confer process i'm going to make

a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair in the hope that the meat and confer will meet in january and finally take action in san francisco on this ordinance in january what i would say to the gentleman that spoke about how complicated and difficult to store firearms in a vehicle what we're saying here is that if you choose to leave a firearm in an unattended vehicle there are certain things to do in the city and county of san francisco you can choose not to leave a firearm in an non-attended vehicle and this is not in any way infringe on anyone's second amendment rights when you are the owner of firearms there are certain responsibilities you should you have and certain

things you have to do consistent with those responsibilities with that, i'd like to again make a motion to continue this to the call of the chair and thank you to my staff and hope to have a vote as quickly as possible in january thank you. >> we'll do that without objection thank you madam clerk, is there any additional business to come before this body? >> there's no further business. >> thank you very much meeting adjourned i should announce 5 meeting the joint meeting of lafco good afternoon today is

tuesday, september 22, 2015. welcome to the local agency formation commission of the san francisco ethics commission my name is john avalos the chair of the commission and will be a joint commission joint meeting that the public safety and neighborhood committee i'll allow the chair of the committee to open up that meeting. >> thank you chair avalos i'm eir mar to my right is supervisor avalos and we're always police department of pleased to have joint meeting

with lafco. >> our clerk is alyssa and today's joint meeting is broadcast by sfgovtv staff jim smith and charles kremack also erica major is co-clerking this meeting madam clerk, any announcements? >> electronic devices. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. >> thank you and could you please call the roll for lafco commissioner avalos commissioner breed absent. >> commissioner campos and commissioner crews commissioner lindo commissioner mar player you have a quorum how do we want to do this mr. chair. >> a motion to excuse

commissioner breed. >> to excuse if lafco supervisor breed commissioner breed a motion from commissioner crews and seconded by and excuse the newest appointees from this meeting and seconded by supervisor campos we'll take that without objection. >> okay. if you could call the first item. >> item within we think the board of supervisors urging the california public utilities commission to reject the pacific gas & electric proposed increases to net be able to metering fees. >> just want we want to call them at the same time call 2. >> item 2 the board of supervisors file urging the

california public utilities commission to re-examine fairness of increases. >> okay. very good thank you m madam clerk and colleagues two resolutions before us that are very, very important, important our cleanpowersf effort pg&e has filed with the california public utilities commission two motions seeking to one to get changes in the net metering program that will be similar harmful for people in san francisco and over lafco our cleanpowersf program also they've proposed a new fee for the exit fee for the power electrical power from pg&e when people customers go into the

cleanpowersf program the proposed fee is called the what is is called mr. fried actually trying to draw that up. >> you're talking about the exit fee. >> yes. >> the public charge in different power charge in different adjustments. >> the power charge in different adjustments. >> correct yes. >> so the impact of those two fees own the program for cleanpowersf would reduce the funds we have available for build out and could make our program less competitive with pg&e and preventing us from the robust roll out and less funds to do build out this is a direct attack against our cleanpowersf power program two resolutions to

say ask the california public utilities commission not to approve those increases that is dramatic two increases for the residents i think that is important to talk about some of the things going on behind the scenes that's been going on earlier this year we put on two measures on the ballot the lafco and city put on proposition h that was really about move forward with our cleanpowersf program and have a clear statement about what kind of energy we're producing the iuoe under stern have put out their own version of the property g do undermine our effort would be they realized that the city was probable going to prevail on our measure that would not be good for them and their measure would

lose and it very well well, did to you make sure they're not attacking our measure and stern from i b w worked very much to try at one end promote the measure he was going to try toy kill prop g earlier this week, i was tarnishing to mr. stern he said the energy fee that is working its way to the public utilities commission was all but settled our resolution before us today regarding the metering was really not important anywhere i don't believe that is true and

talking with lafco jason fried sdrook interest the california public utilities commission has not made a decision on the net energy metering and talking to a liaison who is here in 9 puc who's name a cody he said the decision is not made either so here's what howard stern told me are signed the metering decision is pretty much set nothing it changing and i don't believe that is for what i've been hearing that is true things are locked up between ibw and the california public utilities commission to present and let us know what we have before us.

>> sure jason fried executive director for lafco on those matters i've invited speakers if a statewide level and have presentations on each of the items into a local level how it impacts san francisco directly so we will take them in the order on the agenda and our presenter from solar to present followed by a receptionist in the san francisco environmental department talking about the impact the lafco and the pc i a and having lean energy present on a statewide prospective and have the sfpuc how to impacts us with that, i'll call of sue huh-uh h h sue is an do the

presentation and the next presenter after that. >> convalescent committee members thank you. i am supposed to say sfgovtv goes to the power point so, yeah i'm susan the west coast with go solar a nonprofit advocacy organization that is working around the country to bring solar into the mainstream about the efforts to slow down the rooftop by attacking and policy called net meters we're in the middle of the debate the commission has not made a determination i could talk about this topic for many hours but keep it to 5 minutes as a context to start important to note we're reilly in the midst of a rooftop innovation in san

francisco we serve 3 percent of big incurs demand the average price has dropped by more than half by 2009 and tripled the solar on the rooftop since 2011 and seeing 2/3rd's of the rooftop solar installation happening in lshgsz neighborhoods it is good news for the state but prompting a backlash that seize it as a threat is their directly attacking net meters not only in california but dozens of other states across the country an explanation of what net metering and simple method for crediting people so when a roosevelt is

producing more energy than the confers needed it get sent back the grid owe the skpz sell it so the metering makes sure that the similar customers get credit it allows their meters to roll backwards and give us full retail credit for kilowatt for the clean they're paying the utility when necessary buy the hours so legislationer passed it in the early 2000 and have it in place across the country but in 2013 in response from the utility the legislator passed a law that told the commission by the end of this year determine what the net goals should be when they reach a 5 percent cap

what 5 percent of the peak demand is served by the rooftop solar and pg&e will hit that cap around the middle of next year and so all 3 of the utilities as a proceeding in the puc have submitted proposals to end that 3450er9 and drastically reduce the solar bill saves and each utility proposed a different proposal but at pg&e they have a host of different proposed changing reduce the bill by more 50 percent that ends the metering you get the same credit for what is returned to the grid and on top of to add a 3 there's per kilowatt monthly demand charge it is pegged to the maximum demand that a customer buys from the utilities so it is hard for residential

customers to predict we see anywhere in the country the utility has levied levied a demand charge the customers don't know their maximum demand will be and it is difficult charge to manage more them as well to pg&e is proposed to disallow rolling over the bill credit that is part of our net metering structure and they've made other proposals i'll not get into detail but you know it is essentially if pg&e proposal was adopted by the puc it will drastically reduce the savings to the customers and dramatically slow down continued solar growth and so you can all utilities they've proposed this combination of reduced to credit for exported clean energy and

add fees on top of that for solar customers so you might be wondering you know how which of that is impacting the solar customers bill in pg&e territory and that gets complicate because it matters what the customers demand and the size of solar ray and so on we crunched the numbers in an analysis to the puc look at an average residential scloo solar customer in fresno a hot spot for the state right now this graph shows a customer who is under net meters the status quo and have got solar with a no down payment even though up as many solar customers do on net metering the

customer saves over 20 percent a month before they got solar but pg&e's process is adopted by the puc the savings go down to 3 percent you're talking about a decline of more than 80 percent in solar savings to customer under the pg&e proposal compared with net meters so you know in response to those attacks from the utilities we've got a number of pro solar voices including my organization is advocates for the preservation of net metering and for californian not make it more expensive for low and middle-income and an out power of the preserve more comments as in the puc has seen on any issue

we have a very broad coalition of voices from city government to save organizations not only organizations urging the commissions not to adopt but stick with the metering so where we are in the process raw the c puc about issue their appropriately decision and another a round of applause do comment and thirty days before they adopt a final decision won't happen until middle january so definitely time for the city to weigh in and definitely think that is a great idea if they decide to do so i'll stop there for any questions. >> from our last comments were nothing is definitely soda up. >> the proposal has not been

issued so - >> by no means decided. >> so permanently no decision on the proposed decision. >> no proposed decision out yet. >> and the proposed decision public input and we get to see that public input can influence what comes out in the final. >> exactly often changes between the changes and the. >> you've answers my next question. >> how common is that. >> it is quite common the commission seize heavy lobbying by stakeholders who want to make changes so, you know, i think in this issue that's been so important to the public and controversial i think there is absolutely more time to look at

this from the commission. >> thank you. >> commissioner crews. >> thank you so much for your presentation it is remarkable that the different solar customers in fresno 0 no will see to have the net metering changed do you have numbers for san francisco. >> unfortunately, i took this out of an analysis earlier this year i think that the results will look not too much different than san francisco but fresno customers buy more energy so probable the impact on savings would be somewhat less in san francisco but still looking at pg&e proposal adopted a severe reduction in savings all throughout pg&e territory. >> i more example friends that

bought a house looking to add solar panels and people that are you know financing their solar panels and they're looking for the cost association the cost savings association with the build in order to pay for the solar installation do we see them going underwater with solar panels. >> one thing to note the puc potential of net mooefrt will apply for customers that go solar in the future after the utility hits the 5 percent cap if i have solar the commission says you get to keep the program for 20 years and move over 0 the new program is the puc is you know they're seeking to provide certainty so if you're under the current rules you'll stick with the rules the question what are

the rules for the future customers. >> right so people who before all of this financeing you know flexibility is offered to go solar people that went green early on are going to stop being the seeing the benefits. >> yeah. for current customers and customers went solar in the early days when is serve years ago they will see good savings but this is going to throw you know a possible big change in added fees for solar customers and create communication in the market for customers that have solar and those going solar if you look at a whole bunch of confusing fees and demand charges it is really going to put a chill on the market from

the simple system of solar to a complex and that's one of the reasons we've urged the puc we have a program that works well, we're macro solar affordability to ordinary californians now is it so not the time to change could you say but to maintain this program and keep reaping all the benefits. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner campos. >> what is the what could possible be the rational by the utilities for what they're proposing we'll open this up for public comment what are they saying trying to understand. >> the one side. >> yeah. can anyone keep a

straight fast, no pun intend. >> as i've said i think their ulterior motivates on in their part the argument making sure that all customers including the solar customers pay their fair share for the grid what is the fixed costs every customer should be paying pg&e incentive to have their rate basis is the idea is we're moving into a future with a distributed grids customers will provide clean green choices the idea not for the utilities to build out the expensive grid and require the customers to pay for it ever they don't need it yeah pg&e

argument has been around solar customers shouldn't be allowed to zero out their bill and not pay towards the sgridz the fact solar customers pay not zeroing out they're bill they're paying their fair share. >> okay. thank you commissioner mar. >> thank you for the presentation i just wanted to add my $0.02 he feel pg&e's out arraign and the other utilities out arraign forecast it disincentivizes but grad glad you made it clear i have a question i'm not sure you can answer may cal or other from the department of the environment but in the materials it says about 5 thousand san francisco homes we know of have solar installations or 5 thousand

solar installations around san francisco that that are similar 10.5 megawatts do i know how is are low and you mentioned solar in homes is expanding to more low income and middle-income homes. >> i don't know that offhand i know there was recently a report that look at the average incomes of the zip codes for solar being installed over the last 5 years a distinct move from solar in higher income neighborhoods i don't know what the politician for the solar already installed by the across the country as the costs come down most of the installations with disconnecting of in case of less than 70

thousands or less. >> maybe cal knows about the 5 thousand installations are we seeing an increase in the lower and middle-income homes. >> thank you commissioner, i can't answer that question but certainly try to get an answer for you. >> to finish up my political $0.02 pg&e's actions are outrageous bus the climate submit and the protests around the woodland is out praejz what is happening around the public utilities commission. >> thank you commissioner mar and sir, thank you for your presentation so i have two maybe hear public comment or an explanation of the changes from mr. fried's and public comment. >> before we do that we have

cal has a quick presentation how to impacts california before we get there. >> commissioners, thank you very much i said to painted a picture of a larger picture we're electrifying our electric vehicles moving away from natural gas to electrify our spaces heating we need more electricity resources and we the more we have in house in san francisco the better off we are what is proposed with the net metering is more difficult part of the charge of the department of the environment to think about green house gas emissions so i want to point out that the pucs our puc sfpuc go solar with the metering has installed the 7 hundreds plus solar

installations in addition those are providing about 23 megawatts of capacity the late number and want to make the point we've been employing people prosecute disadvantaged community in those programs as well as installing solar throughout the city including the southeast and other parts of city that are lower income and finally the point i think not been in the comments before those improve the reliance we're working on a project to provide batteries and scombrrg storage to back up the systems when we have a major broad-based quarter we have resources that will come from rooftop solar not a solar installation in the valley the more we can do to put the solar on our rooftops that improve our

conditions here thank you. >> thank you. >> so chair avalos to have public safety and neighborhood chair wiener to take the a good deal of and read in the amendments those amendments are a quick synopsis they are clarifying and clearing up up a few things we've produced that and gotten feedback from go solar about technical changes that are necessary we took the comments and your staff he provided edits and something that the public safety committee tapes not a lafco item i'll get into that at the ends the difference and what the public safety neighborhood services committee and after reading those amendments sgoerd and then we should if you want to get

public comment on this item or have a presentation on the pc i a i'll yield. >> do pc i a read the comments or do the presentation all the stuff together. >> if you like. >> i'm not clear what i have. >> maybe. >> so i would do at this point call up shawn and she'll do the presentation on the pc i a and have sfpuc do that and the amendments then. >> okay. >> thank you he everybody nice to be here i'm shawn with lean energy jason can you help me with queuing up those slides.

>> super. >> thank you. >> before i get started into this topic i think that will be helpful to set context and let you i know i was asked to give a 5 minute presentation high-level and brief i'll be happy to answer any questions but what is the definition of this power charge in different adjustments this is a long term form f 50 an exit fee it is also categorized as a departing low charge an annual calculations based on the advantageing the pacific gas & electric has engaged in or entered into on behalf of the customers and so in order to keep the fundamental rate payers whole you have to pay a

departing low charge for the case of community choices aggregation or cleanpowersf and want to be clear at this point we are not disallowing the need for a low charge we understand that is an obligation in particular not necessarily so much of the utility but the fundamental ratepayer is not unduly impacted by the departing load has to do with with the way the p kay is calculated and the mitigation strategies to handle some of these more intense rates we see proposed this year with that, we'll sort of recap what we see as the owner currently before the c puc.

2016 it is scheduled to go up nearly 100 percent in cleanpowersf case actually a little bit over 100 percent this is the highest in history so it is unprecedented that estimates or calculates out to 2 point 3 cent and kilowatt hour the communities have to add into the generation rate to for the wholesale power rates from the market in order to then come up with a full rate at the end of the day needs to be competitive with pg&e you can imagine a 2 pointed 3 kilowatt hour charge is actually pretty hefty charge but this means for cleanpowersf is a potential hit of $8.4 million in 2016 that is just for a partial year and only for phase one customers you have you're rolling out a modest

phase if i look at 24 over the course of the program actually a potential for a much larger financial hit going forward peninsula clean energy the ambulance in san mateo that is $40 million in 2016 and that is also 2307 for the phase one program and the pc i a has a hard hits on care customers they rely on programs that help them meet in their olympics low income customers that are undial burdened by 100 percent increase in the fee per it also reduces cleanpowersf and other cia ability for the clean power this is something to have into our rates it effects our revenues and the ability to have the

excess revenue and definitely creates uncertainty in the marketplace we believe the effect is anticompetitive it is essentially contrary to save policy the policy requires corporation from the utilities 19 it also requires the urban bundled customer is made whole but some things in the calculations that satisfied both needs the other issue at hand the calculations are done in a black box manner commissioner last week knowledgeed how calibrated those calculations are the costs in ass not to my knowledge uh-huh annual calculations are unknown because of the cost information was not available to 9 parties our question what are the assumptions underlying and what is in this quote quotes

black box it spits out a fee that potentially approved by the c puc we know undermines the california public utilities commission go credibility of the end result that brings us here today to a number of remedies that have been proposed we are hopeful an additional decision to the proposed decision before the puc potentially schedule to be heard on december 17th and potentially defer a final decisions into january giving me additional time for mitigations to be povrnl considered >> one of those to increase transparency and craigslist by conducting and third party audio and verification of the calculation and more importantly the assumptions underlying those

calculations what are the contract that are going into this black box and spitting out this number we don't know what is going into that we that will be helpful for the puc to have the third party verifies they're given comfort they're about to approve is valid the second mitigation that has been suggested is to consider a balancing or smoothly account to mitigate those types rates as i mentioned this is unprecedented doing so will is an annual came it could be 15ers or 50 percent but something that provides some relief with the ability to amnesties the balance of those over a period of time so you have a smoothly effect and not have this hit on rates the figure out is to request to

open a preceding at the sfpuc other issues about the exit fee including a potential very visiting obvious iuoe circulations u calculations work the memories and the policy behind that as well as how long does the p ccii kay cia we don't see a - they're no longer able to procure but monopoly has been defined so those are the remedies that lean as suggested and many others that have merging with the commissioners we don't know for sure there is relief for the 2016 fee some indication of a willingness to engage if the structural fixed to the p cia that is a step in

the right direction if you can join us for to press conference next thursday december 17th prior to the commission hearing we'd love to have supervisor avalos or anyone else a number of local officials to talk about the impact of the p cia on their program and the program going forward so with that, i the finish my remarks and i'm available to answer any questions. >> thank you for your presentation and thank you as well for the invitation actually, i will not been able to make that i have my kids i take it school at it time in the morning but well, my fellow commissioners to be able to go if theirable. >> thank you. >> and work with jason fried to

see which one of us can be inherited over to the press conference. >> very good thank you. >> okay commissioner mar you're name is the only the roster okay. >> commission. >> thank you. i have one question. >> it was a great presentation thank you. i thinks that is very complicated and to stay within the timeframe was high-level going back to one statement you said you thought no relief in sight what do you mean that pg&e is not required to procure energy on behalf of the p cia how did it play into the p cia a continual charge. >> as far it's been a

continual charge ongoing discussions when a when does it at the end pg&e entered into a contract maybe 25 to thirty years at what point is there a cross over between that timeframe when the p cia halls procedure the power on behalf of the parties and is obligation to pay the load theoretically it should be wrenching down over time and go away at some point some said it should go away after the first year it is not feasible but after 10 years they have the ability to go on the market and sell the contract the p cia is calculated on the

benchmark price and what they cracked for we want to make sure we are innovate liable for the loads and the calculations is fair and that there is in no way a double dipping or making money and turning to and chair mar us. >> forgive me if i'm new to understanding p cia it is a dual component there's a something that the ratepayer pays and the p cia pays isn't that correct. >> yes. but the way it works the cca agency scombetsdz the p cia charge so ultimately it is bundled into the overall rate for the customer. >> so the customer doesn't get

this you know thanks for leaving you owe us x amount of dollars it's rolled into the future bills with cleanpowersf. >> yes. >> if i understood you correctly but the bottom line in other words, for the program whether it is cleanpowersf or lean clean energy for them to retain competitive they have to take into account the generation layer in the exist fee and the administrative costs and come out hopefully competitive to pg&e and this year we know for sure for example, lean energy will be more expensive. >> thank you. i understand it but thank you for clarifying it thank you so much.

>> any other and colleagues, any other questions okay. anything from staff? ms. harold >> good afternoon barbara hale assistants general manager for powell at the san francisco puc thanks. taking the time to review and lean and marshall for reviewing the p cia since for the last couple of weeks we've been pulsing over how to reset our cleanpowersf plan to in the event if pg&e is successful in their request at the california public utilities commission our commission on december 8th adopted a resolution similar to the resolution bra you today it rejects or urges the california public utilities commission to reject the proposal pg&e offends

it ports it asks the puc to support the ultimate resolution as ms. marshall described that helps mitigate the impact of the p cia request ton cca programs and p cia customers and finally the sfpuc urged the p cia to reexamine the calculation method and the application to cleanpowersf program and other cca programs in state law requires that the investor on collect this fee to maintain the differences for the remaining customers to other domineers departing

the san francisco public utilities commission it in challenge it san franciscans san francisco is made up of bundled customers and you know customers that will join the cca program we need to keep both the ratepayer groups incomes and we're asking the california public utilities commission to do the same they should be keeping in mind the bundled customers by the but the cca customers it is not at all unusual for the california public utilities commission to apply it's practice on a rate making issue and see the result oh, that is has a heavier impact on customers and rate payers than we think is appropriate quarry moderate that the puc resolution requests them here

and the resolution bra requests the california public utilities commission to do to moderate the impact we've spent sometime today, i spent time talking with california public utilities commission staff i think that the issue one of the issues that is most troubling ms. marshall be mentioned it pg&e the proceedings that pg&e's asking for making in request is a proceeding that started back in june of this year parties had an opportunity to review the materials, to put their point of view on the formal records on november 5th is when pg&e changed their request to make it a more dramatic higher than previously requested in june that was november 5th, november 13th

shortly after the assigned administrative law judge grantdz pg&e request when we look back then on the filings the filing that pg&e made on november 5th i have with me going to the transparency issue this is a filing that pg&e made with tremendous amount of redictated we cannot see >> a this is a more than a tremendous amount of redacting. >> we can't see the calculation so part of what we're asking the california public utilities commission to pause look at the real calculations here make sure that they understand it can and moderate the impact on our customers and going forward look to see how can we assess a charge that protects bundled customers and didn't unfairly

hits the cleanpowersf and other cca customers commissioner crews. >> you were asking a question specifically how to affect cleanpowersf customers like other ccas we're doing when we are proposing rates for the cleanpowersf program as we're trying to make sure that customers will be neutral to whether you you know on a bill basis to whether they're in the cleanpowersf program or in the pg&e program we know that pg&e is going to include on the cleanpowersf customer will include on their charges page the exit fee times the kilowatt hours a separate charge each customer will see we've tried to do in setting our generation rate to take that how far take into account it means we have to

be 25 percent cheaper in our our electrical supply has to be 25 percent what we were cheaper in other words, to be cheaper pg&e so we're when ms. marshall said we're amending that we're saying you're costs have to be cheaper by the cost of the p cia in order for our customers to have no bill impact by joining our program. >> okay. >> so that i think this is i'll stop there and take any questions you may have thank you. >> thank you very much i don't see other questions so why not go ahead and hear from our director jason fried. >> i want to do a quick summary and giving us an understanding from the board of supervisors you know we have a

couple of resolution in front of you i understand technical amendment to the resolutions today and that's a good way for the board of supervisors to go that is best if they do it set up a committee report so go in front of the the board of supervisors on tuesday and they vote prior internal revenue to the meeting the c puc especially from the skraik from a lafco prospective looking for the final reductions on the letter writing side and things like that lafco what about more nimble and support what the sfpuc and lean is doing stone the p cia and support what the department of environment and the go solar and other net

merchant we'll be taking part that's little directions i'll be encouraging to give the instructions when 33 these 24e7kz occur between the merge and draft letters the chair then reviewed them and gives the final sign off that's generally, the way it is downey done in a supervisor has a on or about we'll incorporate you into 0 that loop but draft the letters with the chair giving final approval with the lafco i'll recommend at this point and still, of course, have to have public comment on those two items actually. >> great so why not do public comment first actually what we have before us a technical amendment i passed out to my colleagues adding a few words here and tloo there to

see the expectations of the california public utilities commission could be just changes in the title that referenced to solar customers and changing language that go helps to clarify around the net energy metering and it is really minor changes here and there on the second one around the power charge and different adjustments adding a line that jason fried discussed a therefore, be it resolved and this is not underlined by the board of supervisors directs the clerk of the board to transmit copies to the california public utilities commission and the san francisco's representatives of the legislator that's the last on the line that of that the power charging adjustment resolution that's new

okay. so we can decide to bring those we'll vote on those amendments or the public safety neighborhood services committee will vote on those amendments after public comment let's go to public comment. >> good evening commissioners eric brooks with the san francisco green party and the local grassroots i come forward with the clean power advocates and are for the energy choice that hepatitis to lead the charge in sacramento to stop bad bills that will undermine community choice so i'll just stick to the exit fee the plaintiff cia fee because of limit time i lean has

done a great job of calling your attention and dust kicked up and getting public comment unprecedented public comment to the commission on this but i would kick it up a notch we have a number this p cia charge was happening and now a situation where there are 40 the last number i saw 40 city and counties cities and/or county pursuing the choice and la that county is pursuing 20 or more so pg&e and the other utilities know full well the market is drastically changing and a lot of the services territory will be taken over by community choice program what the p cia i'll call you to ask for it to be rapidly changed it is left the the way it is it sets up a

situation where corps like pg&e not only the choice program will stand up to the territory can sign up for 20 and thirty years knowing the next year x number of customers and those customers will be dinged in perpetuity for the 20 and thirty year contracted so this is - >> hi a point of order we should get double the times i'm jed i co-coordinator and spent time on the board a party to the

puc and definitely involved in the p cia we've worked on the deconstruction of fossil fuel and provide a healthy future not without turning on the clean power those issues are extremely critical a climate crisis we need more 5 percent of residents to have solar on their roof and heard from the gentleman about the resilient so it benefits everyone and the only party is the corporation that didn't benefit that wear discussing as far as the puc i'll make sfpuc and make the comments again, the pentagon proposal is to instill fear statewide and effect the public policy that by g a

dictionary dispensation is economic terry recidivism a hostage taking with 8 and a half millions pictures rotted away from us money from the peninsula it is unacceptable the public didn't have a big role with the san francisco public works i'll urge to get involved with the c puc supervisors to move the pools actually this hearing an is 17 despite all the feedback they've heard the p cia charge patrol is still it on the consent calendar this is the level of respect for the process we have over there this 8 and a half million dollars is real money we'll have here on behalf of the appellant. >> do you have imagine to add. >> yes. thank you.

>> we heard from the sfpuc hearing they'll been losing be potentially 8 and a half million dollars in this the plaintiff cia increase goes through we've think thinking how to use this money back into the promissory note program we tell them the mask of the community choices going devotes this is is transfer of wealth and for money for build outs going instead to a maneuver in a conceptual way it is poor planning by this year corporation to be back stomped by the public not happening in any other industry i'll back up under brooks we need to look at the blunt of this but the funding of the p cia thank you very much.

>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> dashing through the snow in a solar powder slay over the city hills we go green power all the way. >> bells are again to ring keeping spirits bright and bright i hope the item turn out right hope that goes well and hope it is swell and hope it sells oh, what fun to ride in a solar powder sleigh offering oh, no place like solar and green be able for the holidays and no matter how far away you room if you want to be economical in many ways for the holidays it great powder energy way to go .

>> (clapping.). >> well, i guessed that is taking my green ride to a whole new level is there any additional public comment seeing none, public comment is closed and i think this is where the public safety neighborhood services can take over. >> chair avalos any questions about the amendments can we adopt the amendments for the net metering item without objection. >> and thank you let me say two different items before us and if no questions we've heard public comment can we. >> the new on the power charge on the adjustment resolution

that you combined asking the board to send a letter to the california public utilities commission and to our representative that serves the city for this c puc not only a lafco motion but for the public safety committee and it this is for the public safety committee. >> so for the p cia can we accept that amendment without objection great on both items support 0 those with the with a positive recommendation. >> look forward as a committee report. >> so moved. >> and moved to the full board of supervisors on tuesday december 15th and doing that without objection thank you. >> back to the chair avalos. >> other items for the safety committee or close that one out

so we can adjourn the public safety committee and go on to the lafco. >> any other business before the public safety committee. >> there's no further business. >> we'll conclude that public safety and mr. chair they need to witch over to lafco. >> okay. we'll pause a switc >> okay. we'll pause a minute. >> sfgovtv is really.

>> very good and so those items are open on our lafco agenda jason fried. >> they're open on the lafco staff 80 so we have it read into the record to take part in the letter writing campaigns and to work with the chair to get those letters done in a timely fashion. >> okay commissioner crews. >> i wanted to make the motion to have the staff to write the letters on both matters please. >> okay. thank you and i think that's a motion and seconded by commissioner mar and take that without objection i'll work with jason fried on working on the letter. >> okay thank you very much and let's go to our item number 3. >> item 3 the approval the

lafco minutes from the october 23, 2015, with the san francisco public utilities commission. >> colleagues, any questions or comments on the minutes okay let's go on to. this is related to our minutes so no members of the public we'll public comment is closed. and item 4 >> you need to take a motion to approve the minutes. >> so moved. >> okay thank you and seconded by commissioner mar and we'll take that without objection. >> item 4 the community activities report for a report on the clean power and b status on the california public utilities commission. >> okay ms. hal welcome. >> the general manager for power at the san francisco public utilities commission i wanted to provide an update if i

may how we're doing with the clean power program marching towards launch on the november 10th we made a presentation to the commission that dooementd the business plan the reflex that we were facing and our strategies for mitigating those risks the revisions relief talked about the p cia we reran our model and looked at the stability of the program we on the 10 were able to an november 10th able to inform our commission it looks like a 8 percent operating margin that we'll be funding an operating reserve we'll funding a rate stabilization and providing a gastroproduct with very a good basis of financial so we'll be able to grow the

program and ultimately get a credit rating more sufficiently reinvest and along the changes that pg&e is asking for in the administrative law judges is saying yes and we ran the fingers it shrinks with the new numbers and funding an operating reserve no longerable if edging successful no longer able to fund rate stabilization reserve the importance of the reserve having that reserve allows us a returning give us an account we can turn to for contingencies like a change in the p cia we'll

not have to immediately pass those costs onto the customers but absorb them until the next opportunity to adjust our underlying costs so that cushion having that lost that cushion is concerting we made the presentation to our commission of the changes on the 8 of december we are still moving forward their comfortable with that we are watch a number of factors the pg&e change being one that is was the one more impactful between now and the first of the year or the first week the first of the year of the new year we'll be getting a price refresh from our suppliers and hoping to see those costs come down and we are going to

finalize the negotiations with those bidders 3 active bid option one bidders we're talking about with two active specified renewable projects we expect to finalize those over the next two weeks and have the pg&e raised come in on january 1st, we'll know what the rate is we're competing against the generation and the p cia not only will we expect to be acted think or defenders by the commission on the 17 of december; right? on january 1st pg&e is scheduled to publish new rates based on a number of decisions the california public utilities commission is making is on january 1st, we'll have a new rate we'll have a calculator on what the p cia is and able to

do the math to fourth we know what our costs say we have the best and finally over from our suppliers and know what pg&e rate is costs are on the plaintiff cia and able to say okay. can we cover our costs and including funding and operating reserves at a rate that is .25 percent less than the rates pg&e is charging today, if we are able to say yes, we'll continue on our large number path in not at this point that's when we pittsburgh hit the pause bottom in between and then continuing to work on refinancing the numbers looking at and ooefg what sort of a mitigating factors we might be able to recommend to our

commission if we do finds ourselves on the pause path also known as to the launch path wear expecting to be on the launch path blue in the expectation we're wrong so our schedule remains the same. >> just i'm going to pause you right now. >> yes. >> what do you mean if we were to pause what will the range looked like and the time i understand you have to look at contingencies i'm not what that means illegally how our program is considered by the california public utilities commission but in terms of their decision making but i get nervous when i hear the word pause it feels like all the work you've done

and the puc has done could seriously be a waste of time so, please let me know what you mean by pause. >> to what i mean by pause staff has been given direction to launch this program assuming we're able to over service at a rate that is affordable they've defined affordable as being a rate that is zero 25 below pg&e. >> i heard that. >> yes. and so we will know what pg&e's recreate is on january 1st, we'll know we've been estimating our costs; right? using the bids we've received from the suppliers those - the approach we're taking consistent with outing

how things work in the electrical market they've over us a best and final price wherever we ask for that we will when we know in the pg&e rates are that supply is 70 percent of our costs of the overall operation of the program is it it is a fundamental piece of our cost pie reporting or; right? once we know what the actual supply costs are and the actual pg&e rate then we'll be able to judge when a whether we meet the affordability yeah. our costs below can we offer services as 25 below pemgz and recover our costs. >> we'll ton do so if he can we'll got rid of if not the

question about the pause part. >> okay. >> is that like a pause that is - >> - >> a better rate if pg&e. >> what i mean us looking at i know we've not been able to change pg&e rate quickly; right? that's a long term advocacy efforts but we'll be looking at with the pause what are some of the other tools we have available to modify the cost of our program we for example, have a target power content our green offering of 35 percent if we're not able to launch the program not meeting the cost

benchmark consider reducing the 35 to 240 we'll be in compliance with stating an option that lowers our operating costs we could look at it and we're 86 looking at modifying the mix of customers that independence the receive stream eco system a mexico of customers that have more business than residential that might provide us with a revenue stream that allows us to afford to provide the service at that you know extensively affordability. >> i have a lot of resistant it is down the pathway of paws i'm worried about that i have a lot of questions i feel like it is a slippery slope to start talking about what the pause i

was not contemplating that right now. >> i'm trying to demonstrate to you that we, keep is short. >> what. >> if we're not successful with our advocacy at p puc if the costs coin higher are reprepared and thinking that is, yes we are. >> i. >> now is not the time to discuss that. >> i would rather do is that closed session. >> commissioner crews. >> i have a question on timing if we should have a pause to reevaluate to configure the program to still lead with

affordability what can that mean in terms of launch date? >> we're telegraph hill knowing to minimize the launch date we need to begin the opt out process in mid-january to stay on our path of the lauven in march so any dwla on that in january would cause a delay in the actual start of program and again, we're not expecting to be there but i just want to assure you, we are prep and thinking it through if we find ourselves put in that position. >> thank you. >> director fried. >> jason fried exclusive

officer i don't want to jump go into a hornet's nest but what is the worse case scenario they have not yielded participated and right now their staff is foouth kwhaepd in pg&e they like to mess with san francisco what if pg&e is figuring out a way to come in cheaper we've testify grafted not higher than per diem and so they're trying to figure out what happens in those cases there is not a pause in the program i do feel that the staff and everything they're working towards getting getting the launch they're doing their due diligence to anticipate if pg&e 2r50iz to mess with us and put a price out there thereless lower than other anticipated lake the

p cias charge they mess with our finances you know with feed to is have a discussion the financial needs to be there i will or know they've been ward's on the avenues what occurs the one benefit we have pg&e is getting a lower price we should be getting a lower price for any contact wire mirroring the market in pg&e is laboratory lover our hopes are contracting will be lover it therefore we'll oath set and we'll get a launch i see the work their staff is doing internally everything is full steam heads but calm the nerves no one is expecting a pause the staff is part of their commission wanting to make sure that he everyone is on board from a financial stand point

commission said he's happy with the work they've done all the worst case scenarios they've been able to deal with any worst case scenario and they're continuing to go down that pact one thing i wanted to highlight i don't see a pause not any their staff is foouth how not to be a pause in the program and i heap that one january comes around we'll see the program moving forward. >> yes. i don't want to cast anything on the puc staff but get freaked out there isn't a lot of carol about what decisions will be in the california public utilities commission that makes we worried i am concerned about this giving

air to what where we are right now is that doesn't make us feel like we are doubtful but other people maybe a closed session discussing the matters or rather than having it you know before us - >> i think it make sense to talk about it pubically as well that is my concern. >> i agree with you completely and each of the elements eave heard this outside the chambers i ask the same questions i think we are working on the same path to move forward we can and have our agenda when mergers are the next lafco will be after all the decisions are made but try to schedule a meeting in january if something needs to be scheduled or right after the holidays if i want to have it closed session

and staff can have the meeting with each personal individuals. >> let's have a meeting in between and then. >> why not move to public comment any public comment? >> good afternoon, commissioners again eric brooks with all the groups i've mentioned previously those are in the various capacities is just to we had a pretty good meeting with staff last monday and they kind of reassured us to the extent that breeding e director fried did it looks like the price of renewables is going do you think that's what your hearing so the likelihood of a pause is pretty unlikely, however, it i would also agree with the notation of the having

lafco and the board of supervisors ready to have lafco ready to have a special meeting in january and the supervisors ready to act in case pg&e plays games to the board of supervisors can pass whatever legislation to undermine those pg&e games and keep the 0 program on track so - at the puc meeting on tuesday advocates cleanpowersf advocates and outlets whoirldz supports the commission decision to go ahead and vote for their package and their business model moving forward and we think that the things look good but be prepared for january in case of the games one quibble in the business plan staffed agreed to sit and

pleading will be involved the frontalss for what the build out starts in the best plan are 2020 and enernex is sooner that that basic where we do it sooner hinlz on the financing so that's little with an thing to should tell with staff to get the build out started within a year - >> thank you. >> thanks jed from 350 sf again, we had a good meeting with staff and i think the sfpuc meeting on tuesday was a positive one i just really wanted to give from an outside prospective kind of back up with director fried

said you know the sfpuc staff is under pressure from their commission from members of the commission to really look at the worst of the worst and protect basically the rest of the power enterprise that could happen to clean power i think that it is important to keep an eye on on the fact that puc really potentially taking more direct measures to halt the launch of this program than previously but i think at this point the way for us to move forward is to hopefully do this together outside organizations the board of supervisors, lafco and the sfpuc to basically move forward as a city tee help undermine what the correspondence of the regulated monopoly might be

don't go certainly they can watch those meetings and everything is out in public verse the redacted record we say early i expect when the rates come out in january they'll specifically be geared to take a loss for a short time to gain a competitive interest in other community choice programs we can't do anything about that but work together to be trickier and dirtier than they are for a future i want to back up the sfpuc staff the 8 and a half millions of they're required tee account for how this money is distributed because of the commissions request and despite this large hit they maintained

to their commission they were very certain to move forward albeit it with a smaller margin and reserves than they like we back up them in getting positive and focused on doing this question agree this is happening no matter what they throw at us we'd like to collectively surpass that thank you. >> thank you very much. >> just a corrections on our public comment it was tremendously redacted and also i agree i do in my comments to ms. hailey said a tremendous amount of work your staff has done and don't want to lose sight of that so this is an informational item next item. >> item number 52016 lafco

meeting schedule. >> director fried. >> executive director jason fried in the package the proposed dates for 2016 how we distributed how we came across for it to o thousands meeting you have the schedule in front of make a motion to accept that schedule and put that in as our regulating schedule meeting we may have a joint meeting but for the calendar 2016 when we were we'll be meeting. >> before that go into public comment is there anyone from the public that wishes to speak and public comment is closed. and a motion from commissioner crews you want to an our schedule. >> i think i tediously director fried i'll not be here in february i'll be traveling for the moss month.

>> okay. >> everyone else okay with the schedule can i get a motion from - motion from commissioner lindo commissioner lindo can't make a motion. >> the motion by chair wiener and commissioner campos without objection thanks for making the motion though. >> next item. >> and item 6 executive director's report status update with the city and county of san francisco can do to increase the voter turnout. >> so jason fried our executive director office and also thank for the commission we'll have those in february for the utilities itself for the report we're continuing to move forward with enrique the intern

has been reaching utilities to the academics we have a meeting schedule next week with the department of the elections that john is interest we'll ask him perspectives and we're starting to reach out the community groups we're continuing to be in the raven phase my hope by the middle of january had all the meetings we need to have and drafting and reporting so at some point you know ends of january beginning of february timeframe we'll have a rotator and put it out there commissioner crews you want to look at the drafting process we'll don't we we can and i'll avoid all in one big blast i know you have that request and his own that request once more in depth and if any other

commission wanted to hair the draft it is very early draft we'll have but i'll be happy to to share what we have that's all i have on the study itself and the only thing january is normally the election of chair and having to keep in mind for anyone that wants to stay in their positions within the bodies as far as chair or vice chair those happen in january that's all. >> commissioner crews. >> i have a consecutive statement slash question for director fried. >> i in terms of of the report voter turnout i want to reiterate i want to make sure that our research is reaching out to the youth commission to go talk about the vote. >> yes. we've talked about i

pefrm sad with the youth to talk about that. >> super thank you commissioner londo. >> i've been receiving the nominees and know that is not always easy we'll continuing having the e-mails trying to at the time set up the meeting. >> i maybe coming to some of you the most responsive if you have a relationship with that that group i'll come to you to get those meetings acceset up t you. i'll let him know that. >> between the last meeting and this meeting i preenrolled for super green for cleanpowersf

and founded a it was very easy to do less than 5 minutes so i'm my office is putting out information a newsletter how to sign up and if people can talk about the program it goes a long way i know that commissioner crews has a whole stack of packet and been swell at getting that out don't our part that would be helpful. >> director fried. >> i've been helping the puc to do the community meeting you're correct 50 percent signed up for super green it was very easy to do so people should be encouraging all the commissioners office and commissioner crews got the cd what a bunch the low log these i'll be happy to to work with

the puc to get you that information. >> great on the executive officer's report we'll open up for public comment. >> eric brooks again with all those groups good afternoon, commissioners and first on the last point that was raised and to the public that will hopeful watching this hearing we build that cleanpowersf is definitely going to start in april of next year things are looking pretty good and you caprice enroll for the program it will be lower price than pg&e or a few bucks for more for 100 percent as the chair said and to the public you do that easy go to cleanpowersf.com that is one

word cleanpowersf.org and get our energy if the city not pg&e i want to raise and point what happened in the november 3rd election really made a powerful statement about process we need to include in how we educate ventilators in the last election for mayor 3 of the campaigns purposing ran together as a bloc-vote 1, 2, 3 for us in the process of their purposing running together they did a lot of education to the voters on how and why to do that that is the first time it any candidate in san francisco if you look at the previous election and this election how rank worked out both mayoral it was profound a lot more voters knew and

properly transferred their votes to candidates and resulted in one of the candidates getting 33 percent of the veto a providence defensive than the last election which was none of that candidates getting much at all to let's - >> thank you. >> ted long time san franciscan who's regularly baffled in and december gusted by our low voter turnout when people have dying around the world to have a stake in the future i think unfortunately, our society is convenience space i did a lot of data analysis on this election for a campaign that plain clothes officers mentioned and ink we have under half the

registered voters vote when you take the eligible they could vote you can't force the horse to drink to water but lead the horse are better to water i hope we're looking all mail ballots and there's rank choice voting education unfortunately, i see the ads on muni permanent the only person that looks up at that in trying to educate peep in the election voting in this cycle the goal was to say eye rate voice e choice voting how you oozed use it and trying to clear up misconceptions the departments have spent millions

of our money trying to clear up those campaigns as well intended they're not penetrating so increasing the turn out helps but when people feel like not only the 39 proscriptions they don't understand they don't understand how to vote for their choice no further so rank choice is great should encourage people to vote thanks for the education thank you. >> seeing no other members of the public coming down public comment is closed. >> general public comment is now open and seeing no member of the public general public comment is closed. and next item. >> >> item 8 future agenda

items. >> colleagues, any future agenda items any public comment? and seeing none the future agenda items are closed public comment and adjournment. >> we're adjournsçç@p

>> all right. good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, the meeting will come to order this is the regular meeting for the land use committee and transportation committee i'm supervisor cowen to my right is supervisor wiener who's the chair and to my left is supervisor jane kim our clerk is miss alicia i'd like to take a moment and tank jim smith and jessie larson for broadcasting in meeting madam clerk any

electronic devices. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the january 12, 2016, board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated all right. thank you very much call item number one. >> a resolution authorizing the issuance and sale and deliver the house bond not to exceed money for the minnesota for a rental unit is alice griffith apartment t projects. >> colleagues ms. elizabeth from ocii to make a brief presentation on this item welcome. >> the floor is yours. >> good afternoon, supervisors elizabeth with the office of economic development ocii the resolution before you authorize the bond precedes to pay for the construction and related costs for alice griffith phase 3 an

walker drive ma comic and other are the nonprofit housing development corporation and additional team meshes with the housing authority and other agencies at alice griffith the third phase of the redevelopment of 200 plus alice griffith site as a mixed income development with the hope sf consist with those principles no residents will be permanently displaced as a result of that cement development and the circulations will rain the same what 9 redevelopment is complete all 200 up unit plus will be replaced w with affordable units three hundred plus and inclusionary units and 200 and 37 workforce units phase 3 is 1 a and 22 units

split into 3 ab for the exit of the development only phase a low get the bond financing that the subject of today and phases will be 56 replacement and other manage units phase 3 is a mix of 1, 2, 3, 4 and bedroom units for 50 percent of medium income for a family of 4 phase 3 like phase one and phase two one of the benefits their adjacent to the existing houses residents will move from their existing unit without being temporary located and complete by the end of next

year in demolition is equipment prior to 2017 the lennar corporation is the master advertent for the hepatitis with a formal san francisco redevelopment now appendixes when lennar is required for the terms of d da for a phase of alice griffith that subsidy is $10 million and appendixes provides a subsidy for phase 3 it is approximately 10 and a half million dollars in august of 2011 the development team was awarded an initiative 0 grant not to exceed of 35 point plus million dollars to be used for alice griffith the c n ii has a statutory

obligation that the grant fund must be - for the portions of the fund phase one and two being used on phase 3 the bond issuance before you today will along with the funding allow the project meet the critical hud deadlines this transportation authority plans & programs committee traction is conduit that doesn't require the city to repay the bonds it was smimentdz to the committee in 2011 and awarded in past october the project is sliced to begin by february 2016 and complete construction by late 2017 with me is daniel to answer any questions that concludes my presentation. thank you. >> well, thank you very much and thank you for being here as well let's go ahead and take

public comment seeing no comments from the commissioners public comment is open. >> good evening supervisors could i get action right here ax washington. >> okay. >> i'm here in protest i know things go on i'm talking about the interesting party with hud that has come to the city and the action get mugged the residents again know a hill of beans what is happening and only a couple of minutes i protest the only getting 2 minutes i'm so to speak as the czar of the out migration you'll hear that through this project in the next 10 years because lieutenant newsom put together a mechanism and institution for the african-americans blacks in the

san francisco and i am appoint the czar whatever the city put together i'll be in that car i'll go on to breakdown what is going on here those procedures supervisor cowen are clearly out of order with every organization ma comic and lennar you've got san francisco housing authority development do you know the history from johnson that fought for the certificate of preference but supervisor cohen and supervisor breed for putting the legislation together that is the beginning we'll have to rearrange this concept of rad because the tenants will be mad the p t p and all of that they've been studying the

structure with none from doing so-called ace but aches and be here utilizing this airtime i created the government channel i'll utilize it in the best community thank you. any other speakers that want to speak at this point seeing none, public comment is closed colleagues, any discussion no okay. great all to make a motion to opening it up for public comment to keep this important rebuild of the alice griffith sited moving forward is there a semiautomatic to my motion? >> semiautomatic. >> thank you seconded by supervisor kim. >> madam clerk item 2. >> a resolution condoning for 6 months the interim controls for the neighborhood district to require the conditional use authorization for the proposed formula retail use. >> great, thank you and she is

the author of that item and will speak and lead the discussion. >> thank you, madam chair as you recall about 18 months ago passed interim controls i authored relating to the formula retail use in the castro street commercial district to address a loophole where someone or an establishment could make an application be determined to be formula retail and then make a superficial changes to the application inform effectively gain the system and take themselves out of formula retail complication avoiding the the interim controls they're to address that will that by preventing that from happening formula retail rules are very

for the voters adopted them overwhelmingly we want them to be honored and not gained those interim controls will be xrooir next month and so this these current controls extend the controls by 6 months so colleagues, i ask for your support we do not have a very well presentation so make madam chair, i ask we own up for public comment. >> all right. there is a motion and a second please come down to the podium with 2 minutes thank you. >> thank you, madam chair bryan patterson the attorney for the foundation for h f f that is an have not nonprofit organization dictated to provide

cutting-edge medication to patient in san francisco this proposal before you today is pure and simple in reality it is not and we encourage you to take a closer look not complete in extending inefficient interim controls they're targeted at h f f to prevent hiv pharmacy in the castro to keep out san francisco aids organization this controls require conditional use applications for proposals that are not actually formula retail and in fact in this case with ah f pharmacy it is at 518 castro

street the application was required to consider two things one in terms of the harm to the public and the owner there is no harm to the public with letting this proposal continue forward h f project to continue forward the farm of allowing the controls to be pursued is giant patient care requiring the double represent for other facilities as long as this remains in effect no finding in the proposed extension to justify this we'll we will request an exception from the interim controls will be be in effect and the cu application on january 4th. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello, i'm dale the bay area

director for aids foundation to voice the interim controls extension the property owner is aware of and in support of our project to relocation a pharmacy 3 had had feet away from where it exists a h f f is harmed we're forced to pay 12 240us dollars plus a month our patients over 15 hundred between the fireman and the health care center have expressed a desire to locate our services in a single-space when patients receive all of the services under one roof they do better and benefits the community we would like to see those not pass today thank you. >> thank you very much seeing no other public comment public comment is closed.

thank you. >> i'd like to speak. >> i'm sorry, i just closed public comment i gafd down i'm sorry is there a specific direction to agendize this item. >> thank you, madam chair i do want to note in terms of the public comment the representatives including the attorney from the health care foundation the health care foundation did in response to those interim controls file an application that will be heard at planning commission next month in january and in the ends he understand the aids health care wants a comprehension for the requirement in san francisco we require people to go to conditional use even if the applicant would prefer not to, in fact, in the castro we've had

various instances where for profit and nonprofit in the neighborhood gone through an conditional use process and not tried to gain the system accepted the process as the law of land in san francisco and gone through the process so this is again simply preventing the gaming of our system so colleagues, i move that we forward item 2 the interim controls to the full board of supervisors with a positive recommendation as a commissioner lee report. >> all right. motion by supervisor wiener seconded by supervisor kim and without objection this that motion carries and mr. clerk would you be so kind to please call item number 3. >> an ordinance amending the planning code for the measurement methodology for the top paramount for the in fill

floor areas in the c-3 zoning to exceed the height limit. >> much so colleagues my understanding the project sponsor is in discussion with the shareholders in labor on this particular ordinance and requested a continuance until january 26th meeting so we're going to take public comment on this item there's a lot more work to do on item 3 please do so. >> yes my name is silva johnson and this planning control disrespect is only doing that so that they can put the presentation that is required in the health care issues and this you know should be you know as automatically you know a

visit in the which my social worker mistakenly included me in on another and closed the issue on me and i think that when i i'm have school closes clay's on this issue and want me to go to parks it means i need a car or in order to go through all this these engineering places that the packaging places that they have here have not yielded even you know put on the best strategies he need to do all

this to fulfill it the rule that you know, i include on this has not been in stake any of it so i think that a lot of this has been like put off like the bank had it and i went to prisoner and my car was sold and the money put in the bank they wanted to put me off on this issue and housing being built to be investigated on to - >> thank you. is there any additional public comment on item 3 seeing none, public comment is closed at this point thank you. >> so colleagues is there a motion to continue to the january 25th meeting. >> i'll make that motion.

>> thank you, supervisor kim seconded by supervisor wiener and this motion passes unanimously thank you thank you are any other items before us today. >> there's no further business. >> no furniture business therefore this meeting is adjourned