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>> good morning, everyone. welcome to our new eating spot in city hall. let's continue our tradition start the meeting with the pledge of allegiance. >>[pleage of allegiance] >> this is the reminder that under administrative code section 67 the use of cell phones and pagers and similar sound producing electric devices is prohibited during mission meetings. set all pagers and cell phones and other devices to vibrate or silent mode would turn the device completely off now. fire commission regular meeting, wednesday, generally 13th and the time is 9:03 am. item 1,
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roll call pres. evans,, here. vp covington, here. commissioner kim cleaveland, here. chief of apartment joanne hayes-white, here. item to general public comment. members of the comment made just the commission of to 3 min. to any matter within the commission's jurisdiction does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall adjust their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners were department personnel. commissioners are not to enter into debate or discussion with a speaker. the lack of or sponsored by a commissioners were department personnel does not necessarily constitute agreement with or support of statements made during public comment. >> anyone here this morning that would like to make public
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comment? >>[inaudible] i think you have
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to use this one. they had a working earlier. >>[pause][ppause for technical
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difficulties.] >>good morning. my name is michael patroclus. the sunshine advocates have to start off by saying thank you the commission, thinking that chief for moving you are meeting here to city hall. and also putting these meetings on sfgov tv. i have to single out
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commissioner ken cleaveland let the july cleaveland let the july 10, 2014 meeting raise the issue of putting these meetings on tv and thank you very much for getting that ball rolling kid i'm glad that we are here. to the tech guy, at sfgov tv unofficial video that's ready on the computer and will see if it works. here we go. >> [video]
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>> this video shows a deputy from the fire department creating a public safety hazard at venice and market on december 1. you can very well see how the deputy driving that vehicle was really creating a hazard. i filed a complaint with the department, and then
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on december 15 i got a response from mark gonzales who says we take safety issues very seriously. this matter was investigated by the department and appropriate action was taken. there was no transparency about this investigation. he doesn't name with his deputy was. he doesn't tell me what appropriate action was taken. i brought this matter to your attention a few weeks ago and i would like for the commission to investigate why there was no transparency about this investigation. i don't know the officer's name and i don't know what action was taken. you saw, on that video on december 1 out a public safety hazard was created, and i really did like the deputy turning on the lights. you guys have got to worry about this kind of public activity by your deputies visit harms safety in san francisco. thank you. >> thank you. and you must like to make public comment?
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mr. o'connor and company. >> good morning commission is my name is tom o'connor president of the van firefighters and stand proudly with [inaudible]. personally apologize for being with the first public speakers because i've been told about face for radio but i'll continue onward anyway. this is commissioner evans's last meeting. once we got over the anger and bitterness that she was breaking up with we decided to do something nice for her. we decide to give you a little present a small set of to say thank you for all your years of service to us. all too often we have commissioners who seem to be placeholders put art into a position and are unsure of their role. quite often we have commissioners lacks elite to curry political prayer for the mayor's office and set up performing their duties to san francisco. mr. evans, you got
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it and you got it early. your role in public safety to ensure public policies enacted for just that for the public. you got to light our shortcomings but to criticize them but to fix them. you based members for work both on and you share those stories with the public. the guilds deep into the details this department fills its basic mission to provide public safety. most important was, and local 98 use to buy ourselves during our darkest moments. when we're failing to deliver to the public he did agree with the party lines city hall you didn't say it was a strain. you said it was a crisis. you raise are concerned and listened and agreed you understood the greatest expert and public safety is those who provided every day out in the street and san francisco. what others play politics you demonstrated that resolve to follow public policy. your candor, humor and concern for
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these eight very short years and we cannot thank you for your service dedication and support. we want to give you some to say thank you to make sure that you don't forget us and in case you change your mind you can put back on and join us. on behalf of local 798, then woman of san francisco fire department united employers group and just as a friend, thank you very very much for your years of service. we can't thank you enough. >>[applause] >> thank you very much but i really really appreciate the very kind words. thank you. >> commissioner evans, sean -i'd also like to thank you for
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your leadership, for your courage and for your service. you are truly an advocate to the citizens of san francisco once again, thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner evans, keith rocco, i'm the chairman of sf rescue. but a firefighter brightest 19 years now. associate myself with the remarks of our present. i could say more how proud i am to have you on a commission. it's really sad to see you leave. thank you very much on behalf of sf rescue, united employees could get i wish you nothing but success in your future endeavors. >> thank you very much. >> commissioner evans derek cooper pres. san francisco paramedic association. i would think you commissioner evans for your a long hard years of service and advocacy on behalf
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of the emts, providers, paramedics san francisco fire department in the over 1 million men, women and children and visitors that come to san francisco every year. it means a lot to them and to us so thank you very much. >> thank you. >> kathy gill bridge united fire service. thank you so much, andrea for your continued dedication and service to the city and to our department. >> bt. >> thank you everybody i really appreciate it. is there any was like to make public comment? >> good morning. adam would i work in station seven. with san francisco fire department get person i like to add my thanks to all the other employees,
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commissioner evans for your years of service. appreciate your time and attention into all the aspects of fire department operations. and listening intently to the concerns of the employees when they were voiced in responding very effectively. getting to another topic, i want to bring in an incident that happened getting to another topic, i want to bring in an incident that happened on saturday, december 19 in alameda and suv drove out of control into the alameda estuary as a merge the alameda fire department responded and did a great job free diving down to the suv and framed the driver although he did end up drowning from the incident. but, the report was there were three people in the vehicle and they do not have a dive team that could make sure that everyone else was out of the car. so, they sent out a call for help. the call ended up coming to our department and were able to send a dive team and rescue squad two over two alameda to search the vehicle, search the area around the vehicle and attach to lines to
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the suv and went to bring it up to the surface. this was the first time that we been able to deploy on a new mutual aid dive policy. so, i really wanted to thank chief siragusa, chief lasalle and chief gonzales for the time i put into crafting the mutual aid pulse. i think it went off as well as it possibly could have. the poor we got from the incident commander there was this incident was, he got on the phone and called to see that he went up and felt like he turned around and there we were. eventually, on the scene about 20 min. after the san francisco fired apartment southern marin dive team arrived on their boat and eventually alameda sheriffs dive team, which is not an immediate response dive team was able to compute all three dive teams worked well together. i think this is a really good indication that we went the right course with this
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policy. or going to be able to learn something every time we deploy on one of these incidents. there's things we can do better, but i want to thank the chiefs, think the department for grading this policy and the feedback i got from our firefighters and also from the alameda writers everyone felt extremely positive about the experience. >> thank you. and us-led to make public comment? >> good morning, commission. i understand pres. evans last meeting today. so, i want to come up here and just say thank you. my name is warm, and on behalf of the asian firefighters association, we want to thank you for your service. your been one of those leaders that has listen to us the whole time. one of those that have came out and want to hear what we had to say. you are the type of person that really want to get things done.
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we want to thank you for your courage to speak up, and we want to wish you well for everything you happens in the future. so thank you very much for your service. >> thank you. anymore public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. please call the next item >> >>[gavel] >> is there any public comment on this item? excuse me, do let >> michael petrella seconded by public comment has to do with the lack of a written report from the chief. as we see, and the minutes, she presented a verbal report and actually will today. i'm asking the chief, as a vast chief craig sir of the police department to prepare a written report at. i also believe all
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the deputies were going to come up here and make presentations have a duty to make a written report that will be printed and put on the table here will also be available on the web and make it easier for the public to follow the operations and activities of this department. i really don't think it is enough that we get these written reports about what is verbally said on the chief and the deputies. we need written reports about activities and i hope those reports will start coming very soon and the new year. thank you. >> thank you. is there any other public comment on this item? any questions, comments from commissioners commissioners on the minute? can i have a motion? with sex all in favor, minutes are approved. >> approval for the minutes for the regular meeting on
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december 3. december 17, 2015. >> is there any public comment on this item? questions, comments, commissioners.. moved and seconded. all in favor say aye. the minutes from the december 3 and december 17 meeting are approved. >> minutes from the special meeting the minutes from the december 3 and december 17 meeting are approved. >> minutes from the special meeting on december 17, 2015. >> moved and seconded. >> any public public comment because there's a motion on the floor. all in favor. aye. the minutes are approved. >> these call the next item. >> item 4, five commission annual statement of purpose for 2016. >> is there any public comment on the statement of purpose? a copy can be made available. marine, do we have extra copies?
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i'm happy to give you mine if we don't. >> michael, does i would like to see this statement posted on the website and am hoping in the future it can also be printed out. >> it is in the binder. >> it is in the binder. okay. that this copy. >> yes. >> thank you. he do any comments or questions from commissioners are annual statement of purpose? >> i make a motion to readopt. >> moved and seconded. all in favor say aye. the annual statement of purpose for 2016 is adopted as proposed. item 5. >> presentation for bureau of fire and the thickest. visitation from fire marshal daniel cost you on calendar year 2015 fires including status of investigations. >> good morning chief.
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>> good morning commissioners. >> i would like to note this item was placed in public comment at our december 17 meeting. we did have a very-a brief discussion of it and we decided to put it separately on the agenda for today's meeting. we appreciate the fire marshal coming back and sharing his remarks again today. >> is my pleasure. this is a follow-up as you said to the last commission meeting. i just want to update on these numbers. fires throughout the city and 2015 and five commission 2015. before i began i like to introduce assistant fire marshal richard brown and awesome task force capt. capt. bowman is here to provide any kind of detail you'd like any questions regarding specifically to the task force. >> so, for 2015 the number of working fires throughout san francisco numbered 191. that is
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the lowest number in the last 10 years. if you look at it this the first time it's been below 200 working fires for any given year in san francisco. the high was 346 one year. with regard to the mission, the mission fires numbered 18. last commission meeting i coded 20, but i was on a quick query and i wasn't-i was aware of to be presenting during the commission meeting in the last commission so i didn't have time to actually put through those files. since then i've gone to each one of those files that's why the numbers have adjusted to 18. the reason for that there's one was a duplicate and one was actually not a fire not a structural fire a grass fire. so the number is 18. that represents 9.4% of fires in san francisco
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for 2015. if we look at from 2005-2015, all the fires in the mission, the mean averages of 18 per year. were slightly up at 18. in addition, if we look at the type of occupancy and structures that have been addressed, to address the 18 structure fires, 72% residential lanes, residential and mixed-use building. if we look at national n, weumbers would expect 75-78 presented that's about what we would expect. no surprises there. if we look at the causes of fires for 2015 am a look at nationally number one is cooking the climate. the numbers 45%. so half of all residential fires almost are caused by cooking equipment.
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number three is electrical. that's 8%, national. if you look at the mission, that's our number one cause to date it was so working on a few of the reports. but, today, we have five of the 18 that represents 20%. of fires in the mission at this point. commissioner evans you asked about the backlog, investigation backlog. at the last commission meeting and you asked about what percentage of the backlog which fitted to the mission. i'll give you those numbers. as of today, we have 270 open a fire investigation reports. 31 of them attributed to the mission. that's 11.5%. it's worth noting that the fire investigation report is a
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three-step process. so when we say backlog that this mean we have to file sitting there is not open and haven't been adjusted. there's a three-step process. the primary investigator. the secondary investigator that cures the abuse report and the supervisor's final review and signs off before that report is released. regarding the backlog of the working fires for the last four years, seven of them are in the mission that are still open and accolade. in 2015 has for them. of those four, one is still under investigation. the other three are women i know, are accidental. if we run the numbers of all incendiary fires in san francisco for the last four years, the total is
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54. only two of those are committed to the mission. that was in 2013. i am open to any questions that you have. >> is there any public comment on this item? mr. patroclus >> hello. michael petrella second. i like to make a request that the commission consider holding either an official meeting or informal meeting with one or two of you in the mission. i think it's really important for the fire department to get out into the mission not necessarily as a body but i think just as we see with please commissioners attending committee meetings regarding the murder of mariel woods, one or two of the commissioners, please commissioners are going at community meetings and
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therefore the brown act doesn't kick in, and this is allowing the police department to create better policing how to get i believe the commsion and the fire department have the duty to get out to the mission. i think you have to bring this deputy and his information to the residence of the mission. with thought what his unit does. we also need a full discussion about the question are these arsons taking place. is speculation and gentrification driving the fires that may not necessarily meet your definition of arson, personally doing a lot to change the neighborhood. the other reason why i think you need to get out to the mission is to continually talk about fire prevention. that is real importance to all of the citizens, and i have to say that in the past two years or so
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on that as a number of large fires have taken place in the mission i been disappointed that apartment has come to the mission community afterward and said, we need to discuss prevention. we need to discuss how were conducting investigations. i think that would go a very long wait if you took the initiative to come to the mission. thank you. >> thank you. is there any other public comment on this item? any questions, comments from commissioners? to mr. cleaveland >> yes, mr. cassio, how long does it take to do one single investigation? >> it depends on the type of fire and the incident itself. i would defer to our captain of the arson passports to give greater detail on that.
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>> would you say you're understaffed do you have enough people to do the investigations? >> you've got to 70 and a backlog. in your estimation how long is a kinetic? >> we are targeting six months. >> when we say were targeting six months that is mainly the zero backlog. i run rate is about 1.2 a day so little over 30 a month. the five a month. so reasonable backlog would be anywhere from i would say, 50 and talk 50-70 would be fair to carry as a backlog. >> the vast majority are accidents? that arson. you don't go in or suspect they are arson right? >> we respond to all greater alarms, injuries, fatalities, any suspicious or where a incident commander cannot determine, is unsure what the causes. so, we don't respond to all of them. the incident, for
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example of the 18 from 2015 we responded to either nine or 10. >> when investors go in give a talk to people and give them the 411 on why the fire occurred whether estimation why the fire occurred? >> do that tenant themselves? >> yes. is there a postmortem on why this is the why the fire occurred and this is why you can't what you can to get you can't overload your public 13 devices. >> lb the prevention side of the house. the division is broken up into two bureaus investigation and prevented investigation stokely goes out there and determines cause, origin and cause. prevention would take that information and with community outreach identify this common causes >> currently, is there any regular program of going in after a fire has been investigated to tell the tenants of the building, this
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is white and have a little education. i think that's very useful and we need to train all of our residents on fire prevention and particularly in older building, which we have a lot of in the mission. so, i do think we need to do a little bit more outreach as was mentioned by our public speaker, and i would hope we would grant that effort up. >> that is already in the works, commissioned we are developing a fire safety presentation in re: have a draft of that. the goal there is going to be, and part of our presentation is going to be community-based, neighborhood-based so when we go out to do upon request, we will hear our presentation specifically to the community we are speaking. so with the mission we talk about the 18 guys. we can talk about the known causes. we can talk about the best way to prevent them. also, our captain lowden had an
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excellent suggestion i'm going to take her up on this. she offered to send one of her arson investigator shall we do these presentations so they can speak to the committee as well. >> i think there's a lot of misinformation and fear out there. we can help clear that up by discussing how these fires are started and the majority are accidents or electrical or whatever. some people to have a little more assurance that their preventable fires and there's no sort of agenda out there trying to create fires. i think i would be a lot-that would go a long way to grade more confidence in our fire department. >> agree. the data at this time does not support that theory. >> thank you. >> commissioner can we take that without objection? without nakajo >> thank you very much chief. i appreciate the information that you furnished at the last
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commission meeting. and i appreciate that you're here today. that arson is here as well in terms of staff capt. and the support. my general question is, you are saying that this year, or 2015, the fires so far in san francisco r1 91. >> correct >> you were saying this is the first time they were under 200? >> going back as far as 20 over. i don't have the data prior to 2004. >> i just want to ask what you think that is occurring? >> i think public awareness. i think it's code enforcement., nation about those things. >> okay. you were talking in the mission the general mean number of fires and the mission is 15 >> 17. if we go back to 2015-25-2015, ketamine of those it would be 17. we do currently
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reported that we have 18 fires in the mission >> for 2015, correct working fires. >> working fight that with this new calendar year your statistics are based on calendar year, chief because >> it is. >> all right. you talk about investigation in terms of these fires in the mission. part of them is assigned to arson. i will make sure i'm hearing this correctly that part of those fires, how many of those fires in the mission are assigned to arson? >> when we say a sign, we are dispatched through communications to any greater alarm or for special calls for any suspicious cause were only if we can't determine a cause. a series of other things that triggers us to respond. injuries, dig out. places of
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worship. bombs. explosions those types of things. we are dispatched through to medications and/or special call. speak up so, just to be clear, chief, not every fire requires the arson squad to be there or correct me if i'm on. >> that is correct. >> is there some again you were citing statistics, reasons or causes-i was looking for causes of these fires in the mission did you talk about the primary source of good cooking, cooking situations. you cited -what did you say, 20% of them? >> when i try to do to understand what's happening in the mission was causing the fires in the mission, the data across the country residential fires. what is the number one cause is cooking, cooking appliances and is 45%, the
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league. 45-40%. 45%. to date, known causes for 2015, now, the five adam archuleta to electrical and that's the most greatest cause to date that we know of. that's the leading cause. if you look at -nationally that would be number three at 8% get in the mission it 28%. >> was the secondary cause, chief? >> in the mission or national? >> in the mission >> in the mission it's going to be discarded smoking materials. >> okay. in terms of the patient fires this year to talk about 18. how does that number 18 compared to other neighborhoods in san francisco? >> it is on the higher end. if you look at the number of structures in the mission, you got the number of structures to the assessor's office is
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approximately 4000. if you look at it that way percentage of fires the mission is not number. actually the tenderloin is number. the tabloid has 75 buildings. it's a large dense neighborhood. it's an old one of the oldest neighborhoods in the attributes to the numbers. >> can you answer my question in terms of the mission has a high number relatively you identify the tenderloin is another day but that is a high number of fires. >> relatively speaking >> on an annual basis. is there another neighborhood beverages within that 18 number 17, 15? >> way we track these numbers in the past is by supervisors district. so, this the first waxing the i neighborhood. supervisors district we two, three, four inputs in one district. so, i get to break all those out commissioner to
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be quite honest with you. >> okay. i just want to be little understand how this is in comparison. i biggest question is what the root causes of these fires within the mission. and what is occurring with that. my fellow colleague commissioner cleaveland top of the arson about bob. i've a better comprehension of that now, as was this information you're providing to me. if there's any other questions i'll make sure i ask you. i appreciate the support from the staff in terms of what's occurring currently with this. thank you, chi. thank you mdm. pres. >> vp covington >> thank you mdm. pres. thank you for your presentation, fire marshall. i just want to know about code enforcement. are we beefing up the code enforcement
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since only fires are the result of electrical instead of the incendiary reasons? >> yes, we are. what we have done is we've actually called out carveout a separate section in the division now and it addresses all are two complaints. when we do our annual company inspections, any fire complaints referred to bureau fire prevention this new section is headed by a new capt., capt. jones, and she's working closely with housing and building to be in line with their complaint process in processing their citations and loaded up our own hearing process. she will become our hearing officer and head of-so we are working on that, commissioner. >> so you actually need to get a complaint before you go look at a building to see if there is electrical overload?
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>> no. annual inspections are company inspections are approximately 5000 iu. from this inspections we get referrals from the field for any situation they find they cannot handle on the spot or minor issues. they are referred to us. our district in the past inspectors responded to those. what we are going to now is a separate section that-we've always responded over there be more spots get them able to turn things process and be more efficient in processing these. >> i think there'll be an excellent idea. i ask you that question because i know that our staff is out and about all the time. do you feel that we need to have a more targeted efforts in the mission?
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>> i think, yes. >> if so, what would that the? >> when i said yes as with community outreach. i think we need to meet with the neighborhoods and again speak to them specifically bastards in their community specifically. the number of fires type of fires they're having. and also, why were-the other thing i'd like to mention-next month were going to be were going virtual, online, where residents that they commission, for example, could go online to punch up the edges of their building and see if there's any open complaints, violations etc. on it. when we come up to these meetings they can either call us woke and adjust them at the meetings as well. that's part of our outreach. so, specific to the mission, yes we are creating our fire safety presentations is geared to specific neighborhoods. that's our focus right now. >> thank you. if there is a greater alarm in a building in
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the mission or anywhere else, and it is a result of electrical overload in, say, one apartment out of 16 apartments in the building, what kind of oversight is given to the other 15 units? is there an inspection of each unit to make sure this is not -within that building? >> as an on-call building inspector that comes out with a greater alarm and addresses any hazards that. whether they should vacate the building, occupy and they come up with their plans moving forward, when you isolate circuitry, whenever it is. it's in the building department hands at that point. >> what i was asking was if each unit muscle units that are not perhaps damaged at all, that each unit within that building with the fire took place is inspected?
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>> no, we do not do that. please electrical fires now, quite often it's because we've extension cords and power strips, and you're powering heating appliances among a number of different things. so it's individual to that. you can't assume the whole building is running these power strips. so, no, we don't inspect every room in the zone. >> okay, thank you. i will hold off on my other questions. thank you. commissioner hardeman >> [inaudible] thank you mdm. pres. chief, thank you for your wonderful report. you addressed
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since you become our marshall which is pretty recent. so, just prior to you becoming fire marshall we had a couple deaths in the mission due to lack of smoke alarms, which is really the most terrible thing you can think of because they do not have smoke alarms people died. so, the department got involved interested in smoke alarms. to me, the aggressive nature of getting smoke alarms out there could possibly helped reduce the number of fires this past year. i would hope that would be the case. i just think to be very aggressive with carbon monoxide and smoke alarms are critical and i know in my own house we clean the oven over the holidays and then bake a prime rib i like to put it on-i have couple smoke alarms going off. i think i wasn't that much smoke. i think that is
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something i'd like to see, everybody take in the city but a lot of people can afford smoke a lot and that's the primary reason they don't have them. then the batteries run out of people decide not to get batteries. so, those electrical ones that are plugged in always stay charged. those would be nice option. of course, they do get expensive if you get the fancy carbon monoxide one, but i want to-i hope that was another reason so i appreciate your aggressive stance on reducing the number of cases. that was it. thank you. >> thank you. justin mentioned as number the stars smoke alarms the it has a 10 year battery like. so it addresses that issue. we generally fire department gets donated 600-700 firearms e.g.
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our outreach worker bring some of them with us. >> just a couple questions chief, an all-star with mentioned a 10 year battery life. is that for going forward or are building owners know to be required to replace smoke detectors have a longer life? >> smoke alarms every 10 years have to be replaced. i don't know if many people know that. if you had a smoke alarm prior to this new requirement, you're going into that tenure lapses and then when you replace it in the state of california by a smoke alarm that does not have a 10 year battery life. a new placement will naturally already have that. >> so, that leads into my other question. i want to say i support efforts you're making to be more active in getting fire safety messages out in the
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community and all the rest. i do think an important part of it , not just the tenants in the mission, but also the building owners. so, i would hope as you're doing that outreach you're also including them at these meetings and making sure that they are just as aware as the tenants about their responsibilities are and are if they can afford to put in the new smoke detectors, get all those kinds of things that can maybe make a difference in someone's life. we should really really be promoting that across the board. i think it'll be great to start having, to go out into the mission did i know that she has offered to go out and meet with committee members. i have as well. i'm sure as i'm leaving their other members on the commission will be willing to engage in a process as well. i do recall, i think vp covington had raise
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some time ago could have a more general public service announcement and i was hoping something that was part of this process that your building more education oriented. so spend some time developing a public service announcement. maybe it's around the smoke detectors or something. i don't know but that these aggressive as we can be. then, i just had a kind of a technical question. when you say there's a backlog, is there a definition because is it a certain amount of buzz of investigation is pending before it's considered backlog or how does that look? >> if we have fire this morning there's an incident number and echoes on the backlog. >> that doesn't seem to make sense. because i think what might be helpful when you first, i would consider the definition there and how you're explaining it. then maybe you would be useful to break down in your data the timeframe. so, if something does happen today, i would say it's pending i would not say it in the
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backlog. something happened two weeks ago i think it's patented don't have so much time in the day to get out into these investigations. i think the number is a large people think the fire department is not doing its work. so, i think you'll be interesting. i like to know personally, of that to 70, how many coming in the last eight with a 30 days versus -something-year-old for sure is a backlog. it seems there should be some window of time where your team is allowed to be conducting an investigation and it's just considered open before it starts making the statistics look- >> agree. the other thing i may have mentioned this and i apologize if i already did but were talking to 70, without instruction structure fires, vehicles like it were talking
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outside right. importable toilet fires. sophie look at the 270, i believe it's 159, if i'm not mistaken, rationally structure fires. the rest or other three are mentioned. >> understand supervisor campos office would like to have a hearing on this issue. i would encourage you to make the data more clear as to what the timeline ashley looks like and the different types of fires. i think that the other fires are important thing was pure concerned about those concerned about structural fires. that's a big delta. 270, to once again thank you again and figured your deputy and the capt. for diving in and taking this on. i appreciate it. is there any other questions or comment on this item? seeing none, regard to the next item, please >> item 6, report on the fiscal year 316-2017 capital budget. >> good morning mr. persaud. >> the morning commissioners.
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allow me a moment to load up the presentation. good morning, commissioned under present the next item was the discussion and possible approval of the province capital budget request. this is in conjunction and peril to the overall budget process but due to the fact that capital budget initials
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are little different the timeframe for submittal is a little different it's on a separate track. just want to go over the process. the departments cements its proposed budget request to the capital planning committee. this year there do on this friday, january 15. they're vetted to the capital planning committee which is made up of representatives from mayor's office, comptroller's office, board of supervisors, and various other department heads were representatives. that's through process in april-may and they develop internally different scenarios with regards to overall funding, and once the mayor's office sorts through their overall budget process bill approves one of the scenarios for the capital planning committee and that is what is committed as the bears overall budget. the overall land for the capital planning committee is incorporated into
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the city's 10 year capital plan. the assumptions made in there that are consistent with what committed to the mayor's office. as you all know, and has been discussed here and everywhere quite a bit, we have a variety of facility issues due to the age and deferred maintenance of our facilities. we have received mostly to the easter bond program which is been great, don't get me wrong, but it did not address the amount of facility need that we have. so, it's been very positive and those projects will continue to work on and i'll get into more of that later but it doesn't necessarily cover all of our needs for sure. there's a lot of deferred maintenance due to funding issues and those deferred maintenance have led to additional problems, for example with roof leaks if they're not repaired they be two additional facility issues down the line. so, we've had funding issues, securing funding to address these facility issues and we've explored other opportunities such as grants, nor to make some of the differences we saw
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the large outstanding balance of issues. so, here is a look of our historical budget for the past few years. as you can see, it's not really much. when looking at approximately 50 facilities that we have, and we've received anywhere from 600,000 to $2.5 million over the past five years which is not address does not really make a dent in facility issues. so, is he on the next five, given kind of the overall health of the city at last year's budget process, that amount was increased which was great. we received $3.5 million in the current year to large increase over what we received in the previous two fiscal years, but again that's not nearly enough to make a large dent in our facility issues. as the last years budget process
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over to your process, so the second-year approval, which the first-year approval this year, was passed and you could see were allocated about $2.9 million. that is reviewed annually because was approved last year doesn't necessarily mean it will be approved this year it week to go through the entire process again. that's what's coming before you. so, i want to discuss the proposal before you would you share that and if you don't have copies available. we've been working very closely and i think we discussed it here, very closely with the department of public works. in conjunction with 2014 easter bond there in the process of completing a department wide the soul of the assessment that will take a look at each individual department facility and address a variety of examine all the systems in there to determine kind of an overall state of need for the department. i was done back in 2010 bond. that's almost complete. the working on that currently. the data before you hear is from limitary data from that analysis. i believe probably in the next moment the
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be request to present, not just that, but overall the 2014 e. upon as a separate item in front of the commission. i will allow them to go through their methodology and a process that. but we did take some of that women are a data for the proposal before you here. they looked at the facility in each issue, for example, apparatus doors, roofs and those etc., they modeled out some cost estimates. in addition, labeled them specific, priority so from serious and severe to moderate and, so for the propeller purpose of our proposal here, we have prioritized the serious and severe recommendations from the department of public works. in addition to that, we've also prioritized based on location for example division houses battalion houses as well and that's incorporated into the proposal before you. we are looking at approximately $89
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million as a request over the two years in previous years we submitted one lump but in order to more aligned with both the capital planning process, as was the overall two-year budget process, we've now split this into two separate years. so, the total over $40 million a year the total is about $89 million and i'll run briefly through the price. we have roof replacements. exterior angles including painting. windows, showers, mechanical and hvac systems in the firehouses, emergency generators, exhaust extractors, electrical infrastructure, sidewalk and site work and a lot of the concrete and surroundings of the buildings. kitchens, apparatus bay doors, to open for the apparatus, also, discussed here previously it infrastructure upgrades. that's kind of a new project as we been working with it. a lot of
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the new technology systems, for example some of the capabilities the new system were not able to implement just given the lack of or kind of the outdated it infrastructure in our facilities. so we are requesting some updates that. some oxygen cascade systems in the firehouses as well as some additional work on the chief's residence. so, i want to highlight some other outside of the capital budget, other capital related projects going on. we were approved for about $1.5 billion in federal fema assistance firefighter grant funding for exhaust extractor upgrades in the early ongoing at our firehouse and that will upgrade exact extractor system at 37 stations did the main stations recovered by either easter or some other funding. in addition planning is ongoing for the 2014 easter bond. those who project and program.
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in addition i mentioned dpw is completing the overall facility analysis department take a look at each individual station. coming for the stars upcoming projects, as many of you know, were busy planning the new ems facilities for the help on this you. that's a work in progress. were closing up many pre-much all the focus scope projects from the easter break 10 bond. those are pretty much all completed. then, the two larger megaprojects from that bond position five station 16 plaisance, which beat later this year. then, will begin anticipating what this year on a lot of focus scope projects for the easter 2014 bond as was continuing on the approval process the replacement of station 35. and of longer term on the horizon, there's currently a third easter bond plan for 2020. with that, i like to open up to any question.
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chief body is here as well. he can address some of the more detailed capital requests were specifics if you would like as well. >> is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, any questions, comments from commissioners? commissioner cleaveland >> thank you for your work on this. it's been one of my concerns when i came on the commission almost 2 years ago that the facilities of the fire department in general were just not up to what they needed to be. i know we have been asking for years and years apparently for more infrastructure investments in the fire department just has not happened. so, i'm pleased to see this report is comprised of wendy to get a full report updated on every single fire department facility in the city to know exactly what we need. as someone coming from the real estate industry, i know how critical it is to maintain what you have. is a lot easier and less-expensive to maintain what
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you have enough to build new. so, i thought this reports. i hope you continue to do this on a regular base. now, my questions involve several things. one, when you're doing with the sidewalk and the site work item, it's a small item, but it's also one that carries a lot of liability. i'm wondering whether you want to prioritize everything into fy 16-17 move everything over from the 17-18 to the 60-70 because that's an issue with apartment can be sued by outsiders. i think that leaves us vulnerable and i think we need to think about shifting that a little bit. >> i don't think that's an issue at all. there's absolutely a lot of liability that comes along with that for injuries or claims to the city posted by means that something we can modify it request for. speak up in the kitchen's area, the 132,004 $14 for a number of the station. what does the one
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of 13 what does the $102,000 by? >> associates and upgrade of easy for the doctorbits until they get into each station and begin work but i think that deals with cabinetry, flooring, some small amount of plumbing associate with it not necessarily the entire house but plumbing and electrical upgrades as well. there's a lot of stations that no cabinet doors just have been together used every day quite a bit adjust the wear and tear on the kitchens in addition to any leaks or anything like that though cause additional damage >> you went in and did a general assessment of the number of firehouses of their kitchens that are underpar and then one may take 500,000 another take 50,000? so these are averages? >> i will confirm thaton the dpw modeling, how they cost out
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those assumed costs. >> in the apparatus bay doors, apparently what is it $141,240 for one door? >> correct. >> expensive garage door >> yes. a lot of electrical >> are these competitively bid. to get to her good two or three competitive bids and we have to customize each tour for each firehouse?. there's a lot of customization with the post to sizing, but in general, the complete guide to the city procurement process and put out to bid. we look at moving from kind of a telescopic door to a bifold door that will out much more easier access in case power goes out or anything like that. it's much easier to open and maintain, also. the stations that size to allow that that the model were looking to move to >> to a current vendor we use a writer basis is been consistently below bidder and
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provides a good quality door? >> unfortunately, we haven't replaced by funding to replace many in recently and so we been using a few vendors for maintenance. with a talk with a few vendors just as far as what is offered in the marketplace and those cost will continue. i would say we of the selected vendor but we do work with a few to make sure we get what we need. >> what is the turnaround time generally from wondering a door to getting it? >> approximately 4 months. installation is relatively-it's more the ordering and make sure the sizing is correct. >> that's than what my concerns from day one. how quickly we can sure around these requests. i don't like to see her firefighters in firehouses that need repair and it takes months and months and months for them to get repaired. i think that's not acceptable >> absolutely. that's a judge
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with some of the other things will work out with purchasing dpw with regard to fire department being emergency department and is the way to expedite- >> i brought that up before and i'll can need to bring that up. our cities critical service departments, please, fire, we need to have a fast-track way to get our purchases and our needs dealt with more quickly, and we need to do it. >> i absolutely agree >> on the ip intersection upgrades two and $47,800 what does that bias? >> that is the replacement of some electrical wiring, the lighting a new pa and speaker systems. then there's also the software opponent and that we done more of the it project proposals but is far as what is strictly covered by capital is more the wiring and hardware on it. >> were going to spend 1.3
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million to upgrade the cheese residence. the chief does not live in the residence. what are we using the chiefs residence for? >> so, were working currently to do some outfitting as a backup department operational center. t want to add anything further >> that's accurate i do not live in a residence synthetic chief of the department because of the aging facility, but we do have some antique pieces as well as upgrading parts of the residence to function as a backup department operating center. >> i think that's all my questions for the moment. speaking of >> any other questions or comments? commissioner nakajo >> thank you. are you looking
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for this request to be adopted and approved this morning? >> yes, sir >> so it is an action item >> correct. the duke i also want to make sure that >> i also want to make sure that when we make this capital request to the cpc, what is the source of this fun? it's not a general fund source. >> it would be a general fund sort. yes. it's part of the overall mayor's budget >> so the request is part of the general fund and part of an annual quest that all departments make annually? >> good. other variously there's other avenues for department funding. there's hunting elsewhere and there's any other grant funding grant related funding would show up in the process as well, but the
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intense purposes of the fire department is relying on general fund is been a complete general fund request. >> i appreciate the information in your presentation. in terms of what we requested in the past, because currently we are requesting 89-what is the last? >> correct. over $89 million over two years. last year we requested, i believe, $54 billion. which is one lump sum request but given the information we received thus far from dpw is a number of additional priorities we want to include. >> in terms of last year's request, the 54, what were we granted out of that 54? >> we were allocated 3.5 million and then 2.9 in the second year of the two-year budget >> i appreciate the justification for this ask in 89 million but i want to hear the justification from staff in terms of asking and requesting
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this number, which more adequately fits our needs, and i want to know how realistic is that? >> is it realistic will get $89 million. given the wedding last year's allocation was one of the highest we've ever received from capital and then given that it was a much more positive economic climate with regard to the budget process, and this year were not requested to reduce any good this year the province were requested to reduce although i'm hoping we can obviously we love to spousal received last year but we hope to maintain in the current year. >> again, what we received last year was how much i can? >> 3.5 million this year and next year was 2.9 million >> for a total of-? >> a little over 6 million. >> okay. i think we commented in the past, the commission we
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would rather have a realistic number presented in requested in terms of our needs then to hold back or not submit because we haven't been successful in terms of our particular request. last year, again, this 13.6 that was granted was in a good fiscal year. this year in terms of the request are we being asked for 2-3% cutback? >> 1.5%, yes >> 1.5% this year and 1.5% next year? >> correct speed it still sounds like a cut to me speak you absolutely but to answer your question with our two total overall that something dpw will probably be presenting, we talked in the past i think the number came from the initial assessment back in 2010 we've said we've had $400 million of overall needs for the apartment facilities. it's been upgraded unfortunately has increased even given the work that was done on 2010 easter fun. bolan
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very numbers looking at when you incorporate not only the projects takes before you but look at seismic, retrofitting and all other including ed upgrades come with my conditions your facility were now the range about $600 million. so, that will be part of dpw presentation before you. we do again, to my colleagues in that apartment and achieve, i'd rather have a realistic number in terms of what our needs are. because we've always been in the process of trying to educate the rest of the mayor's office and every other participant in terms of our needs. as our needs grow, and as commissioner cleaveland went to various questions in terms of our needs, it's clear that, again, for department to be able to serve were going to need these kinds of funding sources with its capital or whether it's vehicle
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replacement. we always seem to be missed somewhere in terms of our urgent need. not talk about probabilities. i'm just talk about what israel. my last question is, in terms of this $89 million request, i know the easter bunny is not that the of up until 2020, but are we going to be strategically trying to develop some kind of strategy to encompass this next easter on whatever shortfalls are the come out within this next capital request? >> absolute. stories project specifically will be addressed in the 2040 easter bond and that's what's underway now. some of these locations of some of the specific projects will be addressed. not all them, obviously that's a project list has been finally identified you can extract them but there's always project that would replace him on our request. with regards to-even with the
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easter funding we have not going to limit all our shower needs a window needs. will help but it's not going to illuminate that. >> i think the point of view i want to leave with is our need obviously of resources of funding and somewhere along the line is not to come from the city and county, it's got to come from a summer else. the easter bond has done one mechanism to do that. i think we should be aggressive to be able to look for that as a resource. thank you very much. thank you mdm. pres. >> any other questions commissioners? commissioner hardeman >> thank you mdm. pres. i'd like to compliment you on your natural ability with numbers. you did a terrific job on your presentation. not to belabor anything, i'm curious the two big numbers i see here on the
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fault of the 14 items. ventilating air conditioning boilers and electrical take up most of the money next year. so, does that include carpentry, painting, sheet rock and everything? is that strictly how do you itemize that? does it include all those things that surrounded were statistically-because it seem like a big number >> shirt. that is a lot of our stations of old infrastructure and even for electrical, for example, when we for example returned result washer attractors for washing personal protective equipment. the current actual system just won't sufficiently supports one of the new washers. there's a lot of those issues that go along with it. but your original point, i believe it
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covers the sheet rocking this ambivalence that there's other issues in the station that those applied outside of electrical it's epic. >> thanks. keep up the good work. >> ice president covington >> thank you mdm. pres. thank you for your presentation is to corso. i wondered just my first question regarding the -regarding this page. it begins with the projects and roof replacement and goes down to the chief's residence. is not in alphabetical order. is it in order of urgent need or- >> i believe it's in any order specifically. it was just based on how the projects were laid out. i think just with dpw. there's no rhyme or reason to it. it's kind of the item or good i'm happy to outlook guys it. >> no. i just want to be clear if this was in order
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>> is not in priority order. >> all right. it's also not in monetary order as well. >> correct. it represents the dollar amounts represent the highest priorities in g2 of those projects but not as a project by project priority. >> thank you. the roof replacement. i've been visiting our various stations, and since we had such a lengthy drought and node had these heavy rains, there is a great need for roof replacement. i don't know if chief lombardi wants to talk a little more about that or anything else on this list? >> sure, thank you commission. there's a great need for the roofs and everywhere else. i think when the most important takeaways for mr. corso's presentation, which was excellent, if that in fact in 2009 we surveyed our surveys are stations were about we
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heard $80 million worth of needed. easter bond passed in 2010 they give us $65 million. another easter bond passed in 2014 that gave us $85 million. so total we've had $150 million, wait. so, you would think 3-180 would have put a $50 million worth of need left but in fact were not getting enough money fast enough in our need is growing. we just met with dpw we welcome to give your presentation next meeting or any meeting on the near future on the easter bond update. anticipating our need in 20 2020 to be $600 million. twitter $380 million problem, through one or 50 added and in 2010 and work about $600 million problem. so were not addressing the needs asked. ruth saucily comes inside the problem gets compounded and compounded. the point is not getting the easter bonds are great they're helping us out. but unless we get some capital funding help here would have a
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bigger problem. >> thank you. i would like to talk about each of these items individually but we don't have time. so, i did ask about the roof them and also the emergency generators. i understand our state-of-the-art generators, the ones that are newest, will last for three days. but that we have generators that at some houses that won't last that long. is that correct? >> correct. every single one of our fire stations is equipped with emergency generator. i goes out everywhere in the city, are for stations will be up and running. i knew standard is that those generators the fuel tank that will sustain three days. our older standards, wendover put in place, did not suffice that need. it's not that we will be not operational we also the portable field unit we have to go around if you will be things to keep them going. but when we talk about the money
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involved in these, all our generators are old. they're put in an old. basically, almost 70% of them need to be replaced. they do the original estimate in 2009, what it would cost for emergency generator at 45 different fire stations it was $50,000. when in all reality, 2010 easter, the applicant an emergency generator that's it under $250,000. >> this, to me is so important because we ask our citizens to be prepared to be on their own for, what is it, 91-92 hours, something like that. so we can't leave the firefighters without a source of energy. it just flies in the face of logic. i think this is a very important item. these emergency generators. i just wanted to highlight that. then, i do have a question regarding dpw
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completing a conference of study of department facility and current capital needs. how long would this assessment take ? do either of you know? >> yes. he assessment was actually done. this one up to mr. cleaveland's think. when the 2014 bond passed with reassess our stations. it actually was a great move because we've grown up of $280 million number both him and allow the new number which is dramatically bigger. >> with around 600? >> it on the 600 range. it got around reassess every station in the apartment. that is done. there telling the final numbers and we seen limited she. mr. corso was able to come up with numbers. they don't want to publicize that she because they're verifying everything, but like i said, prepared ex-meeting if it fits in your
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agenda to come up and did a full presentation on easter and those numbers would be revealed at that point. >> so, is the difference between the first number in those current number is that due to finding more need or is it escalation of replacement cost? >> i think there's a few issues. one is the original cost was in 2009 dollars. that's when the original estimate was dumb. this estimate is done in current dollars. then, when he originally get an estimate they broke into three groups. okay, being green, moderate being yellow color, and severe problem being read. if we have not addressed those moderate problems in the last five years, then obviously those moderate problems one would assume would turn to a severe problem. the problems is continually get worse. >> well, thank you chief lombardi. and mr. corso. >> just a couple questions at first a comment. i think you,
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for another very thorough presentation of civil war but since i won't get to sit again, you're one of the hardest working people in the department and i truly truly appreciate how much dedication and care you put into putting together your report. so thank you for that. >> thank you. spewed a no issue with the numbers. i've no idea what a kitchen cost. just a suggestion in terms of maybe more persuasive. i know most recent budget we were given funds and we hired an industrial hygienist. i wonder if you would be useful to have her look at some of these issues from that vantage point? i think if we can make a kind of a health and safety wellness argument for summaries argue that issues coming from that level of expertise, then it will be more compelling. because when you look at windows, and i'm on the board of supervisors and i also want
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to give away our sport homeless and i'll want to do many other things, windows in a fire station does not jump out as a priority, but if someone can explain what is going on and what potential health ramifications are to the workers, i think that's perhaps more compelling. i don't know what that is, that she could take a look at some of these items and perhaps make, the same way with the washer extractors. that's critically important. these notes on the side i think are more interesting than the actual numbers themselves. i was then not little more time kind of laying out the rationale and really highlighting that we don't-were not asking for new doors because it's the latest thing to come along, but there is a real operational need that
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is addressed with a new doors. so, i would spend a little more time in the three days you have kind of wayne some of that out it's a letter from the commission and the hygienist or whoever else, kind of highlighting some of these issues and really stating why they are critically important for the department and perhaps we might have a leg up on some of these items. >> i think that's a great idea however the chief body even though our budget is due for this on friday it is a continual process over the next few months that capital planning to make. i think that's a good recommendation and will look into that. >> thank you. i wonder because we discussed it so many times, and i know it's on the 10 year plan, capital plan, the training facility at-. do we have any immediate needs there that should be incorporated into this submission now? is there a way to flag for the
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other capital planning committees that even though we have use of the facility for however many years it may be, that some of the legwork in terms of identifying a new spot were making our facility and a state-of-the-art where it is, we can undertake that. we can't wait for eight years, right. i didn't know how that fits in because were not asking now for money to build a new facility, but how can we go about getting funding for assessing other sites or perhaps-how does the process work? >> i was a overall project of the new facilities old and the capital interest given the size of the dollar request. that's not necessarily part of this process but it still kind of always there. it's one of our considerations when moving
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forward in a visiting additional funding available to address that guitar actually needs currently in advance of any facility wherever it would be also exploring some other training revenue avenues to address, to hopefully use some funding to address some of the needs out of the division training. that's kind of a separate process, this obsolete part of our discussion with capital planning because been identified as a need, obviously is any water but in the short term it's not as though improved vasectomy made to it. >> as many times as we can keep saying ti training, ti training, every opportunity i'd like to say it. does i think it's so easy to ignore because it's not urgent and we wake up five years from now and whole barrel of trouble. so, i would somehow we can have it flagged in here i think it would be great. then, my last question regarding the it infrastructure upgrades, is this something that we can also apply to the quake force for or how does
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that work? our member the was a bucket of money reiki that comes from that as well. >> yes. this is essentially happened at project. this is the electrical infrastructure portion of it and speakers and the other portion is the upgrade systems. the more computer software computer hardware specific. this is more general facility issues in order to support that. >> do we make our request every year as well? >> correct >> that happened? >> it has not happened. i believe it happens next week. i'm happy to address it in the next reports, but it's never been one of the itemized >> id would be good to see because we discussed it so many times. just as he would those numbers look like. i was assuming the division of upgrade include that but if not i think would be good to have that information.
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>> i think you total the total project-only a portion of it i can is about seven is about 78.5 million in the range of 10-12,000,000 for the entire project when you include the it portion as well. >> thank you very much. any other questions, comments? commissioner cleaveland >> one i don't? if you have any money in here for building engineers. the part of our operational budget and are we going to ask for more building engineers to be people that are on site although 49 facilities during the year two keep taking the temperature of where our facilities are in terms of maintenance? >> icily. the stripping on personnel and no part of our general operating budget request. we can request some last of your will not approve for that enhancement that legal be one of the things the lease discussed by the budget committee this year. >> thank you. thank you for your presentation. please call the next item. >> on socket we need to
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approve that. >> moved and seconded. all in favor say aye. now, please, thank you >> item 7, chief of department report. report from chief of department. the current issues activities and events within the department says the fire commission meeting of december 17 meeting of december 17, 2015, including fiscal year 2015-2016 budget. staffing changes, academies, strategic plan, 150 anniversary update, specialness, communications and outreach to other government agencies and the public. >> good morning commissioners. happy new. i hope your holidays were enjoyable. i did want to report the last meeting which was last year on december 17 as the secretary said, with regard to the budget you have heard recently from mr. corso
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regarding the capital budget. thank you for your approval and support of that item. i believe we will be asking for an agenda item for the meeting on the 27th for the overall budget discussion. which will need to submit third week in february. mr. corso is the chairman of our budget committee. that meeting will be convened tomorrow at the division of training and a be participating in that as well. begun that process, which we instituted last year has worked very well. all of the members participated last year and expressed an interest to continue with actually had a few members taking on as well to participate in this process. i think it's important to note it's very representative group of members in the department from all different ranks and fields. with regards to staffing changes, as you know i reported last month that debbie chief who's been through the class and eight return to the field and beginning next week he will go through a bit of the
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training and returned to his prominent assignment of battalion seven without in the richmond district and we wish him well. last month we welcomed the recent promotion of assistant deputy chief to know deputy chief ramona williams. she said the ground running and started in her new capacity on january 4 so thank you for that. since the last meeting, we had a process whereby we interviewed-we had 10 applicants for her position, the deputy chief director of training. we conducted interviews.. chief guzman, chief gonzales and i were on the panel. it 10 applicants and we pared it down to six for interview. i'm happy to notify you and welcome assistant deputy chief jeff-to the position of director of training. i like to take a moment just to say is also the groundbreaking. running in his position i generate that. it's
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would've a natural progression. there's not much downtime at the division of training and capt. experience in the in-service training overseen that for 2.5 years has really helped get him right into where he needs to be. so, i like to take the opportunity to welcome capt.-it's so new because his captains you're probably transitioning into the assistant deputy chief your form very soon i like to ask jeff to come up and say a few words. >> good morning commission. the morning she. thank you. looking for my new assignment. they're excited about it. is honestly a great setting at division and to get i think it's obvious why the number possible tenets of sitting behind me and a lot of other things going on. we not be able to get it done without some of the people in the room. one of the sleeping chief williams.. this is achieved and the other
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assistant chiefs have been outstanding working set aside with the division and training making sure training the right things. ask tom o'connor, i got to work together on a project this year which i feel is really going to benefit his upcoming recruit class and recruit classes after that get so caught looking for to looking for to working with all you a few very much. >> thank you. >> congratulates. also want to let you know since last meeting , actually the evening just after the commission meeting i was informed by the assistant deputy chief down at the other neocons of his decision to move on from the department. he's accepted a position with- artistic whistlers oak grove. i think is going to be working overseen the-operation. his last day on the job at the airport with december 31. we wish him well in his decision to move a little closer to his family and take on another
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opportunity. we do not have much notice that. we had about a two week notice. so, what we've done is also together and interview process. we had, i believe, 17 candidates and we interviewed i think we conducted five interviews and a decision regarding his replacement is forthcoming awfully within the next week or so. so i want to let you know about that. regarding academy, since our last meeting he attended the 118th graduate we graduate of 45 new members into the rank of each-two. the ball coming from the h-two candidate was and we had members coming over from station 49 for total 45. i like to acknowledge the division of training for the one of the work they did. those are not easy week. is that a 17 week course. we did lose 12 members, i believe from that class. chief alluded to the
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process by which we work collaboratively with local 798 late into the transition members from station 49 coming to the group academy. so, the rate of attrition in the cost was higher than we typically see, but we don't always graduate the number that initially coming because it is rigorous curriculum of the academy. we look for to the 119th academy did it we comprised of 54 members. 42 coming from off the lift it we've made all 42 conditional appointments and we are awaiting the final selection from station 49. one of the 42 members beginning on january 25 and joined by members from station 49 on february 8. the reason for that two-week delay is that the numbers coming from station 49 are paramedics and the first two weeks of the
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academy are an evaluation of the h-two emt skills. so also before will be together on february 8. we are also in the process of training additional h--eight per diem emts. i believe that 31, the first group we had hired. so, that will create more robust workforce to select from intensive search capacity. i know that will be utilizing a number of the-during super bowl week probably more in the past so to welcome addition. the new group will be completing their training i believe on the 29th of this month. we are also in the process of putting together a h-one academy to begin the latter part of next month or
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early march. we have some members demonstrated capability, i believe 14 of them are also on the h-one list and were looking at transition and be full-time employees. in addition to dick is a members off the h-three level i eligibility list. with regard to strategic planning, we had a meeting with part of december where we look into subcommittees and the subcommittees have met and submitted their updates for certain section that they signed up for. among one subcommittee, the organizational doctrinal committee with president evans. tom o'connell from 791 of our paramedic captains. so our chief financial [inaudible] to summit this week are action items and then strategic planning committee as a whole will be meeting again next week i generate 21st. with regard to
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our 1/50, when out in our one previous year as you know on december 3. we celebrating officially 150 years on december 3 on december 3, 1866 we have a lot of plans underway. there's another committee meeting tomorrow. last month, on the 29th, i met with david-assistant who oversees the guardians of the city is one of the cochairman as well as assistant chief david franklin to discuss the items as we get closer to the get off which we april 18. we have been busy-i've met with the giants did i meeting with regarding assistance and sponsorship. mta has agreed to place some of our graphics on the bus shelters as well as the light rail vehicles and muni buses. so, lots of good work
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being done and will have a website-i like to indulge the academy of arts, university for their partnership.. david-and mindy thomas for my staff who have worked collaboratively with them to get our website up and commissioners, you asked about regina did all that will be coming very soon and i think it's probably appropriate, with your guidance, to include in my cheese report every time we meet a little blurb about what's happening in updates on our 150. some of the items who have the commission of our fire boat as part of our celebration in the late spring, early summer. i know vp covington has worked diligently on a--. we have members from station seven there put together a film about some of the historical fires here in the city could we also
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have a-in the fall. a large celebration to knowledge on december 3. so, april 18 in conjunction with-and the bell ringing at the public safety building. so, lots of celebration and commemoration of our wonderful history. with regard to special events, i did want to highlight great work is being done by assistive the deputy chief shane-and jeff myers from ems with two super bowl l planning. there will be a policy group exercise they'll participate in next week as well as a planning exercise. chief francisco and she myers had been in a lot of meetings internal as well as with other agencies, both city agencies, federal, to make sure that this alteration between 30 january--through thethrough 7 february is enjoyed in a safe
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event for all. there will be multiple events. the two large ones are a ticketed event at mosconi ctr., east, north and south and west. so the nfl experience. it'll run the gamut of those days i described, as was a free event south of market which is super bowl city,. we are excited about it we are prepared. though be a lot of work to get done, but i feel confident with all the planning we done that are part in the fire department which is primarily one of support, will be executed during well. i also want to note that with relation to outreach-i know pres. evans appreciate the comment-i personally talked to people in the mission district related to our interest and willingness to definitely go out and have a meeting in the mission district
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with some of the neighbors that are concerned, and then in the future, as the fire marshal alluded to, to the bureau of fire prevention week is a phenomenal job as well as art bureau of fire investigation to participate in the system the mission but throughout the city in neighborhood meetings to partner with our battalion chief in the field and go out to some the neighborhood meetings to provide-to be proactive in terms of fire prevention, but also on the backend, which several of you have mentioned, to be will to provide, once we have completed reports sort of the final where findings were related to the cause and origin determination. and, to final items before i'm happy to take questions. for consideration, i would like to ask pres. evans to adjourn the meeting in the memory of firefighter --could
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use a valued member of our department who is hired in 1987. i the pleasure working with him often. he passed away on december 25. get in on a lever was considered an active member of our department. we have information on this memorial service this weekend and great firefighter. as well as a great husband and father to his children. so, i like to have you consider that. then, also, i would also like to thank you to pres. evans. the eight years-i don't know it seems to a flown by-in some ways some mondays but generally eight years i think went rather quickly and i to thank you for your commitment and dedication to the department. i find you a person who dives right in very hands-on, approachable, knowledgeable, and if you take on a project you're very
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persistent and solution orientated as well. so, thanks. i see you out in the community other. not only with the fire department but just in general. have a great amount of respect for you as a commissioner, is a san francisco and as a mom in particular. design 08 years ago your voice were a lot younger. babies. you probably see in their height out with the years means. so thank you very much i look forward to continuing to work with you not in your role as a commissioner, but i know you expressed an interest to continue working with apartment. so, thank you so much >> thank you. is there any public comment on this item? mr. charles >> michael patroclus again. chief, great report but nothing in writing. we really need written reports from you. chief, i want to invite you to the mission. i think now is really a good time for you to
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come and hold chat and some cafés popping to some regular scheduled meetings. announce your own chat to be taking place in the mission but the concerns about arson claims and also to talk about fire prevention. one thing i would really like to hear in the very near future is an update on expanded toilet access. a couple of months ago the department agreed to shall we say, promote availability of toilets, i want to say monday-friday from 9 pm-5 pm-i forget the hours, but we went through as a package old meeting place. there is a couple of months later gathered to hear from the fire station within happening. are the members of the public, homeless
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and people house coming and using the facilities? are you fighting any palms or are things going well? later to update on that matter, i'd like to point out that there's still no signage. i made a verbal request. all submitted in writing later today that there be signage at all station houses regarding public toilets, when they are open, and also stating on the signage that, of course if there's a fire the firehouse will be evacuated. it is really important that signage is on the outside of each station house. because a lot of folks i'm asking don't know about this policy. we have a lot of homeless people on the street and they need access to toilets regularly. as you well know, outside the station is a sign about baby drop off. has a baby been dropped off at a firehouse
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in recent years? i don't know. but if you're going to put a sign-up about a parent can drop off an infant at the fire station, please also put a sign up about the toilets. i would just like to say that i think there will be a need for a lot more discussion about the preparations for the super bowl. i just feel that public safety is going to be on everyone's agenda and i hope as we get closer to the super bowl that were going to hear more about protecting public safety. thank you. >> any other public comment? seeing none, any questions or comments from commissioners? commissioner cleaveland >> thank you, chief for your report. i want to applaud you
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for the budget consensus project you instituted last year and i hope you continue to do so. i'm wondering, have you got everybody what is mark got all the reports from all the various people that you've invited to the table? i think it's important when you great budget they have as much buy-in as possible from the rank and file. so, i thought the prices you've instituted no po continue it. strategic planning, is there a deadline? i know our president has been involved in strategic plan with you and are we going to have a final topic at the end of this month or when will we have a final strategic plan? do we know? >> commissioner cleaveland, we, as i said we broke into subcommittees. subcommittees put together product of what they were responsible for, which will be reviewed at our next meeting on the 21st. i like to say by the end of the
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month you have a product. i think were targeting the springtime but we will have a draft and it certainly will have stay as a draft during the comments are not and we definitely want to get it out there for comment. our goal is more like springtime. >> speaking of the super bowl- thank you.-speaking of the super bowl begun a analysis or quantified any cost to the department for providing ems services and other protection services to the people who intend the super bowl? >> yes, we have. but by the great work that's being done in our department related to the extra resources that we need during that week. from an operational standpoint, both suppression as well as ms. particularly in math and fire prevention inspectors at these large events and venues. we anticipate and have submitted
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approximate cost between fighter and 50 and $600,000 to support that we. >> almost 1.5% to reduce our budget is going to cost us. >> right. >> yes, yes. just saying. status of station 16, what is going on with that? >> so, commissioner i want be mindful of the fact that is not spelled out in my report,, and i think from what i've recently been instructed i have to be cautious about discussing something that's not specific on the agenda, all deferred to rc deputy attorney for that. >> i'm not familiar with the issue. does it fall into the categories that listed here? >> the project is the new building a new station. just wondered where the design is and where we are with that
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project? >> is that part of strategic planning? id. not familiar enough with the topic. >> it could. i think broadly interpreted it could. but the other thing is typically, as you know, the first meeting of the month discusses my reports as well as operations of the department, and then the second meeting of the month discusses my report as well as the administration which covers facilities. but, generally, i think i can just give you some broad information that station 16 will be demoed for us will station number five and station 16 will come first. it will be in the fall timeframe. of this year. >> thank you, chief. >> thank you commissioner cleaveland. in your comments or questions? commissioner nakajo
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>> thank you commissioner evans and thank you chief for your report. i want to congratulate the chief on his promotion. i look forward to working with you. in terms of the airport,, did you indicate that announcement will be forthcoming next week? >> that's my plan. so that announcement the interviews have been conducted the plan would be within a weeks time that selection made. >> in terms of you produce a number in terms of h-eight you presently with that number 31? is that what you said >> there's 31 candidates that are going to the process of being trained in lb in addition to the 19 that we have that artie entrained the first time
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around. >> i assume that, again, the their hotel--a target of useful in terms of the super bowl assignments because of the need that can be out there for staffing? >> sorry. will look to our hotel-two and one and 10 members for senators gaps will you be h-eight for additional resources >> finally, chief, what is your maximum goal in terms of members for h-eight said >> was looking at a portal of about 350 paramedics but were getting toward that goal although we do drop from the 14 that i discussed that are interested in transitioning over from a part-time per diem toefl time that will drop that pool again. so we want to go up to about a total of 50. >> the h-eight application is closed at this point? >> that is correct. there are
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some that are-we actually have a couple firefighters that work for other agencies in the fictitious,, a couple shifts at h-eight desert just inches in a per diem assignment and we have some members that took the test and that are also on the h-two level tested that were referred to been able to cross over because they participate in both examinations. >> thank you very much, chief. >> vp covington >> thank you matter president. thank you for your report, chief. you said that we requested between 550,000 and $600,000 for the super bowl. what is the figure that has been approved? >> so, we feel strongly that
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the current overtime allocation and overall funding, department funding, will not exceed that number. we did receive an additional $250,000 added to our overtime specifically for the super bowl. but we believe at the end of the budget cycle our projection is about 550-600,000 be covered in the budget we did receive an additional 250,000 for supporting the week. >> i did see in that article it was 250,000, because they also listed the amount for dpw and the police departments. at what point would that number be approved? if it goes to 6000 but turns out to be 700,000, at what point do we get feedback? >> we work collaboratively the mayor's budget office. in all estimations for that week are
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clearly estimations could we feel that barring anything unforeseen or for a large incident to occur within a week, we feel that should cover it. it is an estimate of the mayor's office knows that. we'll only know the true numbers until after the events close but the mayor's office submitted among the majors budget director smith went to the mayor indicating those would-be estimates, and like you said, they got estimates from dpw, the policewoman and mta. the apartments that really well probably the biggest impact two supports successful and safely. >> thank you. we have three recruit classes this year. do we also have 34 next year? >> you are correct. we have three this you. one beginning generate 25th and then we have a class in dissipated for june
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and october. the reason we have a third class this year is if your car received over $800 billion for the safe grant we were awarded for an additional 36 ftes and our department which is a great boost. the mayor's current plan calls for two classes per year through 2020, i believe. >> all right. we have this great synonymy that's headed our way in the apartment people believe retiring. i'm afraid these numbers will not keep up with the retirement way. do we have an analysis of that? >> is a number that fluctuates and we cannot always been down the week i done some studies and analysis based on a 50 a 58 one. tires so we done some
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analysis when people are eligible for return. on nothing he will retire at 50. most do not get we done some analysis and particularly with this additional cost with our goal is to match the new hires with with retirements. so we see next year, 17-18, there will be a number of people eligible for retirement. as you probably recall, there's a gap of about five years between 1982-1987 where there were new recruit classes. then the department began hiring pretty rigorously in 1987. so, next year signals 30 years for those classes that we began hiring for. so, i believe the analysis shows that with the mayors hiring plan we've agreed to, it will match the new hires the amount of retirees which for years did not happen in the lean economic years. oh wait and four. >> so were not facing any kind
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of personnel deficit that we can proceed? >> not that we can proceed. >> okay, wonderful. i also want to ask about-will not ask about the strategic plan. i want to make sure i think the president for her leadership on this strategic plan, and also her graciousness in continuing, even though she won't be president, and joy be attending anymore commissioned meetings, she will be contingent with the strategic plan. so, i think that is just so gracious on her part. i thanked her and i think the whole strategic planning committee is a lot to try to get a handle on and you guys are doing a great job. >> thank you. >> any other questions or comments. commissioner hardeman
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>> thank you mdm. pres.thanks for the great report, chief. one of the things i like to thank you for is having a graduation semi about well because that's where i graduated high school. i was balboa materials of a semi-dare. anyway, it was good to see how the school has been upgraded and it was fun. a lot of guys from balboa become firefighters. i bet some of the highest number of firefighters. you won't be-i mean mark gonzales, i don't see in the audience ? >> i was going to get to that. his report will be given >> the same way the chief is not here i would ask a question related to the airport, and i
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also want to make a comment. because many have never been to a fire commission meeting. the fact is john martin am a director of the airport is response over three fire stations funded by san francisco airport. they are in the process now of rebuilding one of those to the tune of $29 and there's been a little controversy in design. so, i was curious if you wanted to comment on that design or if you wanted chief lombardi? how is that going as far as bringing that forward at some point? >> i don't think that's on the agent. my correct it doesn't fall into one of those categories. >> is in the report of chief cons. >> is in the operations board.
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>> i thought be more appropriate worksheet had the floor. when the person is not here anyway. "chief myers is going to present the operations report. >> but i think because chief myers has stepped up in a big way and he's not that familiar with it, i think it's reasonable to assume the two breakouts in item number seven cover my report and operation. so i feel it's appropriate, jeff taking you off the hook,, basically about the airport. yes, you're right. there's three stations supported by the san francisco international airport bureau staff about 25 members predicted his nearly 100 members of our government assigned to the airport at station three which is our headquarters is scheduled for demolition and, not too far of
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a distance, right basically where when the new runway projects is going to be. so, that station will be demolished and relocated very close by, but the good work of chief lombardi working with chief cons and industrial hygienist, vicky wells, and also worked with adam woods from local 788 to allay some of the some of the concerns members expressed about air quality and the ways because the new vision is slightly closer to the airfield. the airport do their due diligence and hiring a third party to come in and take a look at those impacts. and came out that the new building will exceed,, or be better than release the same as the current building in terms of air quality and noise and so forth. but what we want to stick it a step further and bring in someone that is on our team that has subject matter expertise. so ms. wells from the department of public out that affirmed the original
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findings of the contractor that was hired by the airport to study any adverse impacts, and she agreed that the new building will be safer and probably have less impact than wait where they are currently located. >> great, chief, thanks. whether doing that i would just like to say john martin who is retiring, won't be replaced. that guys were the most tenacious artists working, aggressive progressive people i've ever worked with in government. i don't know how we can thank him enough. if the public could see the equipment that's been supplied to firefighters to help, such as in the recent fire we had the plane crash we had a couple years ago, that the clement is state-of-the-art in the world. it's due to the airport being the most advanced facility, probably connote good i doubt
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if any other, anyplace in the world has equipment and things designed to support any problems at an airport. also the members of the public was over 400 calls at the three fire stations made at the airport for a variety of reasons. so you think it's a busy place for fires. it's a busy place for other type of emergencies. so i thought be in the public should here is the first time so we should know what a great situation we have and i to think john martin for all his efforts. the duke certainly. if i could add to that. as you probably know, the airport has been always very supportive of our efforts. we ek additional staffing interview 24-7 rescue captains and recently november of last year the addition of three battalion chiefs to have a higher level of command down
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at the airport on a 24-7 basis. so, battalion chief mark johnson, nicole--and battalion chief are-i lead battalion she's at the airport since november. >> i just have one comment and actually two quick comments. i also want to congratulate the chief on his appointment. i know incredibly how he is regarded a training already and i'm sure he will continue to do wonderful work there. commissioner cleaveland raise questions about the timing of the strategic planning, and even though we don't anticipate wrapping up this month, we are in conversation with mark corso to make sure that the needs that we anticipate currently will be shared with the budget committee. so, we want to-i want to assure you that if
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there's something that we see on the horizon now and needs to be funded this year or the next year, that will share with the budget committee and i hope that is a little bit reassuring . we won't lose an entire year in that process. that's all i had. thank you, c chief. >> report from operation. report on overall field operations, including greater alarm fires, emergency medical services, the bureau of fire prevention, and investigation, and the airport division. >> once again assistant deputy chief myers appreciate stepping for debbie chief is also could not be with us this morning >> good morning commission. this the operation support from the operational for that from december for that from december 1-december 31, 2015. during his operational per network porting vernacular
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three greater alarm. all second alarms. 25 bc lumber, 3045 mission, and 2253 lincoln way. chief bussell was commander on two of these fires and richie richardson as the third. all were listed as accidental. in emergency medical services operations the ems division has been extremely busy chief francisco worked on super bowl l planning and participation in regional meetings for the upcoming super bowl operational period. super bowl operational period. of january 30 through december 7. i'm sorry. every seven. it'll be a nine-day operational period. we went to primary venues at the chief mentioned at super bowl city as well as the nfl strength that mosconi center. along with several private events for the nfl that we will be providing both suppression and ems coverage. we'll keep you
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updated on the progress of that planning. the ems division also plans and executed by planning processes for the 911 system in embarcadero command for the new year's eve celebration get one of our busiest night. in the month of december the work 7009 or four unesco. with 5005 and 31 transports, which garnished 74% of the overall market share. we continue to work and update the passbook and field evaluation completion process. participating between 30-31 new h-eight candidates to graduate january 29. we start the process with the chief's office in human resources for a new h level i class the end of february beginning of march. the bureau of fire prevention and fire inspection super bowl
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week, they're very involved with this process. super bowl city were two inspectors working super bowl city an additional four inspectors during the six nights of concerts that are scheduled for super bowl city. in addition, the sony center delete to inspectors on-site at all times. end-of-the-year review inspection activity for 2015. the total number of inspections of 21,683 contained in your packet is the breakdown of those actual inspections. there is also additional information regarding band check and the transportation advisory staff committee. under the fire investigation, all that has been present by chief to cozy up. in his previous presentation today and attached is the san francisco international airport summary for december 30 15. that includes the operational reports
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for december. >> thank you. any the public on this item? any questions, comments from commissioners? >> i want to thank you, very much. i appreciate it. one item that does fall under ems operations in one highlight not think you want to hear more about what the program is initiated, are ems six program. that is something were proud of to basically restore the concept that was implemented some years ago due to a funding decrease we were not able to sustain a program. i like to i don't chief myers dr. yee on implementing this plan. we did select to paramedic captains, paramedic capt. bassett and paying. they got officially
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started generally forth. this month is considered orientation. given working closely with the homeless outreach team and during this month they are working and doing site visits to the sobering center, medical respite, the shouts of the sfpd was outreach, emergency department case management and homeless shelter nursing program. the goal of the program, just to remind you, it of intervention for frequent users of the 911 system the meeting that's not the appropriate use or resource for them. and to work collaboratively with the partners in the department of public health to be proactive as opposed to reactive them in transporting and then having an adverse impact on the patient's waiting any merchants even. were excited about it. we've elected to great people and dr. yee after this month orientation we sign capt.
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bassett and paying to their shifted their age can work 312 hour shifts on opposite days to total coverage in the city. results are to be seen but were optimistic about providing the service. >> t, cheated commissioner nakajo >> thank you very much, chief. specifically i want to comment on chief hayes-white on the item with the work that dr. yee is dim. i indicated to previous commission meetings better than having dialogue with california pacific medical center, and there represented, emily webb has initiated a true interest from the hospital for a meeting blessed with you, chief
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hayes-white and you, dr. yee. in terms of working together in a collaborative fashion to reinforce forget the rate much interested in this concert. i personally think commissioners, this is a great opportunity for my major health provider in san francisco, sutter health,-pnc to the attached two davis campus and children's campuses as well. i want to wish you and your office chief in collaboration by which we can meet with emily webb and see pmc. >> any other questions or comments? commissioner cleaveland >> a couple of questions,, chief. thank you very much, chief myers for your report. one quick question on the ems six program. the three shifts of 12 hours each and one day will be covered. what they would be? >> i'm not sure good honest
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dr. to come up. if you could use the microphone, please. >> good morning, commission. to answer question right now the operational schedule has been finalized with assignments. it's unclear there certainly is a seven-day need in the system. just try to work out with the most effective coverage is going to be. i wish i could have a clear definitive answer at this point. unfortunately, i don't get in terms of what services available in the system, obviously sunday is kind of a traditional day went was to the other services that are 9-5 business days and sometime saturday activities recording with rick sobering and respite and other services they have the latest covers. i would sort of predict that if we have one later day during the week it would be a sunday, but at the same time we have seven days of the week coverage sober trying to determine that right
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now >> designing writers we have fewer 911 calls on senate? >> isolate me the other services recording with a less available on sundays than others. actually have quite a busy weekend sometimes. i couldn't say for sure is any particular data services are not needed. >> have yet to pick a day of the week with the fewest 911 calls, what would be >> i think i probably would pick senate. >> thank you. i'm delighted. but the ms program in a something we've needed for some time to reactivate and delighted to hear. under your leadership so thank you >> also i think the commissioners that apartment for the support. >> i think commissioner nakajo has a point. we have to need to coordinate with all hospitals in the city and how would try to update some of the 911 calls to their facilities.
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>> absolutely agreed >> the question quick question for chief myers. under the complaint inspection or 681 over the past year what with the top three inspection complaints? do we know? egor marshall had to pipe in here and help you out? >> i'm calling in a pinch-hitter. >> i don't have the exact breakdown of those. additionally, when we look at the-we do our company inspections we look at the three main components. we look at fire alarm and sprinkler and exit system. those are the main types of complaints we get referred to us from the company inspections. i don't have a specific breakdown of the total number. >> i talk about problems, sprinklers and egress, almost your complaints we ball around
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fire alarms, not working wwere egress being blocked on the stairwell or something of that nature. those tend to be the biggest reasons for complaints for your department?. they fall under fire alarm was bigger but that doesn't mean it's impaired system. the system means there's no power to the panel. and so long that's been silent. a violent complaint can come in as out of date on your service. there's no indication not going to work as was installed,, intentionally designed and installed it does fall under that category. again, we triage and prioritize these are complaints. the question is is it impaired? does it impact our egress system component. will those systems function as originally designed and constructed speakers if not rather right away. those maintenance issues again, there are important they fall-they're
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not as urgent as the others. >> i note a few years ago the legislators passed legislation that residential hotels be sprinkler. is it your responsibility as a fire marshal to see of these residential hotel owners are complying with the building department's responsibility to check that >> that falls under our inspection program. we do see to that. absolutely >> that may be something in the future me you can give us an update on just who is complying and who is not? >> absolutely. >> thank you. >> any other questions or comments? commissioner hardeman >> this is an fall under your report but i just want to make sure that firefighters are getting their flu shots, and i would hope that number is
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increasing from those who had not taken it at the past meeting. don't know if we didn't answer just a comment. it's a very important-i'd like to welcome chief of training and congratulate his fire chief of training ramona williams on her employment as dg. i hope jeff will continue the pattern she had of making sure the standards are not reduced. if people are not people of doing their job not just let to. we don't need daily sales but we do need to have physical standards that allow the public to feel that new firefighters have the ability to carry them down a ladder would do it afternoon to make sure there lies are safe and
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that they can climb over buildings, do whatever i can deal with street people. that's it do sometimes not very cooperative it's a very tough job. i appreciate you stopping forward and you've done a great job in the past. i'm looking forward to you continue success. thank you. >> just one quick question chief mike. i'm not sure if you're the best person to answer. since chief on body or fire marshal. regarding the past update that included in the office report, we know here your weighing a decision from the city attorney on the lane encroachment by sf vehicles and also by the working on the template that's going to be going to the seals for testing. i wonder if you could add any more detail in terms of when you expect the decision has the testing started and i would
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suggest perhaps for future meeting little bit of an update on where things are revision 0. vision zero. chief nobody can correctly. the past committee that supervisor wiener was considering extending to include private citizens were set different? does anyone know? >> may be cheap >> because like it's been a little while since we've heard anything was going on >> it has been a little while, but were doing with several different departments within the city and as you know that we challenging at times to make sure everyone agrees is on the same page. so we've been working very closely with mta on a new turning template. all
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the previous plans were approved for the city were on generic templates, whether via , whether via wb 44 bigger vehicle on su-30 for smaller vehicle. that's how we size those are compared to our engines and our trucks, and what products were implemented we realized by our drivers voicing their opinions that some turns are tighter than we thought they were going to be that the templates were not actually i forget we be working closely with the mta. the truck template for aerial talk is done. we've agreed upon that. the mta and the fire departments. next step is for them to do the engine template, which is scheduled for, i believe, this friday. they're going to go out and actually do that. so, we are very close to agreeing on those templates. when i pulled up any plans. were still using the templates we've always used and is a question that's arisen we go out and do an actual contest to make sure we can physically fit.
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that's not holding anything up or moving forward the new templates with mta to be a much smoother process with that covers. >> thank you for that. >> any other questions or comments? commissioner hardeman >> i don't expect firefighters to be with to carry people down ladders. the only reason i mention that is you would be shocked, the times i've heard that since i've been a commissioner.. people is somebody able to carry me down the ladder. that's a true statement. i don't expect it personally, but for that comment the members of the public. so i just want tell you why i said that. >> can recall the next item, please >> item 8, communications. communications to commission received since last meeting of december 17 received since last meeting of december 17, 2015. it was an e-mail from jim
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o'connors dated 12-29-15. >> any public comment on this item? seeing none, any questions or comments? nothing. love to the next item, please >> item 9, under for next fire commission of january 27, 2016. >> is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, i heard a couple suggestions. anyone want to throw out anything for consideration for the next meeting? vice president covington >> i like the presentation on code enforcement. >> any other suggestions? i heard the budget from the chief to do yes, traditionally the second meeting in january is one of the items is reserved for budget discussion. i like to move that is something for consideration. in addition, although it separate, i have mr. corso working on a draft
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resolution authorizing the acceptance of donations that we've recently received to the department and our goal would be to get those approved. i believe i have to go to the board of supervisors as well get our idea is to use some of the funding for public education and outreach including smoke alarm purchases, brochures about safe exiting during a fire, it would all be in conjunction this year being are one 50th year in moving forward. so we would like to include that in your consideration the next meeting. >> any other items? commissioner nakajo >> specifically, if there could be included an update on ems six as well as some progress report about our efforts of the education and outreach to the mission. those two items don't have to be separate good if they can be integrated within your report, chief hayes-white, so we can
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get that some months ago i asked for a specific presentation update on bayview hunters point development. our next commission meeting is can be the budget meeting could i do want to conflict with that. so, perhaps there could be a consideration, again at the discretion of the chief and your ability, chief nobody to entertain a matter maybe at the end of part of separate were the latter parts. i'll leave it up to you folks to coordinate that. >> thank you. any other items? >> [inaudible] >> we need preparing now and
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getting as much information out there as possible as to where we can move our training facility. indeed if we have to move it. if there's new discussions with lennar that will keep us on the island we need to know that also. that's an important one. of course the item i brought up on residential hotels and the retrofitting of these facilities for sprinklers is something i like to get report on at some point. maybe not next meeting, but certainly in the next 30 days if possible. >> thank you. i'll be quite a long agenda. i'm smiling knowing i won't be here. it doesn't matter. can we go on to the next item, please >> did you call public, and for that >> i think i did but i'll call again just in case. any public comment on agenda for the next meeting? seeing none,-item 10
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>> items and fire commission election of officers. a nomination and election of commission president. >> i usually jump in first but on this one i would like to. i would just take a moment of indulgence to really thank everyone here for the support. it's really been an honor to serve on the fire commission. i know i've told people that my grandfather is a fire chief come a cycle up with a certain amount of respect for the uniform and for firefighters. i was actually named after him. but it really working with this department over the last eight years has opened my eyes in so many ways and i can truly say that the group that has served the city are the finest
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anywhere. i think you have so much to be proud of in this department. it's really just the depth and breath of the talent in this room and in the department, it's really incredible. i've gone from kind of a detached respect to a true fondness. a lot of people here now i consider good friends and i know i will see after today, and i'm really really grateful for that. i want to thank everyone. the commissioners and the chiefs. she is right. my kids were very little when i start on the commission. remember what about crawling into her lap and putting on her helmet. and all the rest. so, it has been--it has gone by quickly. i learned an incredible amount and i am delighted with the current
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commissioners we have now and, truly, there's no one i can think of it would be a better next president of the commission then our current vice president francine speak covington so i'd like to put forth her name as our next president. >> moved closer, nomination. >> all in favor of-oof the common is their public comment on this item? everyone agrees. so i'll call for the vote. all those in favor say, aye. congratulations. >> thank you very much. thank you, fellow commissioners, for your support and belief in my ability and i will do my level best. i want to say that our
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presidents, over this past year, and she has been president previously as well, has such a big heart in such a big brain. she is brought them both to her duties as president year. she is thoughtful, talented and tenacious and she has given us so much, so much time and effort, as she doesn't have a stingy bone in her body. she is gracious always. even-tempered 99% of the time. if that 1% of the lookout for, but she has been a joy to work with. i will miss her tremendously. a lot of people don't know that, as commissioners, we always said
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as hearing officers for disciplinary matters, and she brings such a laser light to the discussion that she will be very very sorely missed. >> thank you. i appreciate that. >> item 10 b nomination and election of commission vice president. >> vice president covington >> thank you. i would like to put in a nomination for my fellow commissioner ken cleaveland. he has, from the very beginning, been very active on the commission and i think he would serve very well. >> i would like to second that nomination. >> before we take out vote is
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there any public comment on this item? everyone agrees with this one as well. i will call for a vote. all those in favor say, aye. thank you very much commissioner cleaveland for stepping up. >> yes, commissioners be harder than >> i just like to comment president evans, i've been very fortunate to be a number of commissions for an awful long time. so i got to work with a lot of presidents, vice presidents many many times you have never seen anybody-never seen a president and vice president combination work involves then vice president covington and evans in the
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department or a board. i was amazed how much time both of you put in this year. your dedication we surprised me because, as a regular commissioner for number of years, just regular commissioner, when you became president it was lights out. you really-i'm just amazed at how much dedication. i've just never seen that before. the hardest working president i have ever seen. i just want to say that. really going to miss you. maxi sort of shocked that you are really going. you have a life to live unsure. thank you very much for your service. >> commissioner nakajo >> thank you very much president evans. i want to add that some congratulate vp covington to be the president of the fire commission next year or this year. and equally to you commissioner cleaveland
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for accepting the vice presidency. anybody in this room was worked with this commission department members as well those we commissioners take this job very seriously. there's a lot of commitment to this position. some people think it's a glory position. it's appointed by the mayor. what results is dedication and hard work and a great love that evokes for the san francisco fire department. commissioner, president evans when you were sworn in boys were so smaller crawling all over city hall when we're doing city hall knows truly site excited about that this commission is always had a legal expertise in the commission. back you commissioner russell-two commissioner paul condor, but
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yourself commissioner evans, with commissioner evans commissioner hardeman, we've elevated his commission to our responsibilities tenfold and we've given so much time and we still give more time but we do find that we can participate in a partnership with the members and officers of this department. believe me, we do care and would you listen to everybody, and that's the truth of the matter. commissioner evans, i appreciate your hard work and dedication on mr. expertise in the elevation of professionals of new brought to this commission. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> do we have a motion to adjourn? >> i would like to adjourn in the memory of deceased
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firefighter--. i would like to personally say to everyone to keep safe. this is a dangerous job you do. that's all. just stay sacred safe. this meeting is adjourned. >>[gavel]sf. >> good evening, everybody tutor coming i'm patrick the chief director of earthquake for the city of san francisco this is an information been the private school ownerships we'll be talking about what is required and walk you through
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some of the steps we'll have time to do q and a there's a microphone we'll be happy to talk about any issuance restrooms with right around the corner we have coffee and cookies not back feel free to help yours which of you sought report that was the product of almost 3 years of work that was put into looking at our cities private schools we've known nor a long-term the state has treated public and private schools different this is a no one at acquisition they've been regulated differently in the past private schools are essential inform san francisco one in 3 or 24 thousand kids are educated in san francisco's private schools we know that not only is this an important part
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of the children's safety but we know that after a major disaster getting the school up and running it essential with you can't have education without engaging the private schools when he think will be able to get back to work to put our kids in school and get back to normal like a cat tropic health starting in the 30s we starting thinking about the public school this is the distantly from 133 earthquake we took steps to make sure that you are picking up public schools were symmetrical ready for earthquake we started talking about this what do we do we look at the policy interventions was was mcall
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schools retrieved we know that information programs are great but not effective in causing change the way we change behavior we know that schools yes, ma'am the private schools have all different kinds of revenue and if we treat them the same we'll see schools close so eventually ample a long discussion we met mount middle to do american people evaluation so as the all that's required in the evaluation the schools do a seismic evaluation to make decisions the charlotte is an explanation of that not actually looking at specific schools but schools in general and looking at 9 types of schools that were under whether concrete and wood
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frame and the approximate year that's how we're performing in an earthquake the pie chart on the right there was a huge part we didn't understand again quite a few reinforcing the idea of an evaluation those i realize we have a mix of engineers and contractor and school administrators so i'm going to talk at a level that hopefully everyone can follow me we're happy to explain that but essentially schools under the building code ann are an e occupancy they have their use and jobs because of that we want to make sure that is an easier place to start by evaluating outlets occupancy schools are complex sometimes audios church associated or a a residentialcy
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those buildings have not tied up to be elevated so after a lot of months working with the stlrld is stakeholder a group of over 4 hundred and having of you create trademark from so people are comfortable moving forward people are asking me is there other things all this information also available open our wednesday night but 3 exemptions for the evaluation not required for buildings occupied by 24 private or more persons for less than 12 per yearbook or any given day this draws on a previous building code but we're working with the stakeholder this is expressed as a great way to give definite fraction on the hours and whether or not it should be evaluated and second exemption
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25 or fewer students not to say we're not concerned of the students survivalists but the overall risk is so with the universal agreement 25 or fewer students should not be required to evaluate speaker the evaluation is not required for buildings not classified and a group occupancy we mentioned churches and other buildings that are exempt from the evaluation process so two things that are required law went into effect of november 2013 in the next few months a scope report that is required to be submitted that could be completed by a school administrator if you work with a design professional work with in the relation but it is not intended to be a technical document this gives us a chance to look at the building open campus and based on the
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requirement of the ordinance meets this requirements to be evaluated we know clearly from the be perimeters that are buildings not evaluates that our chance to have that conversation if there's curiosities it as to who is sub or not we're happy to help we have a difference team policy experts and others while we'll not do the evaluations we'll set i up for success as i mentioned the two evaluations i'm going to walk you through the scope documents who what is required at the top part basically, the building code section truly about the restrictions and what you do this is a free document to submittal no cost from the city as we go through that you'll see other things the deadline for he scope is 2015 for some
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reason the document is not 134i78d please let us you know in theory if you don't submittal that the department of building inspection will give a notice of violations and or sftv.org you, you want us to do a site inspection you can send a dvd again do worry about the address and things like that it will be available it on the website two location sftv.org back slash e extensive is part of the administration bulletin for the private schools again on the website we'll you work u walk you through the process we know
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that most engineers when it comes the evaluation use the template it is user friendly we don'ts o see those as harp the first section does this replace another report yes or no the scope document maybe filled out incorrectly we'll work you, you about it you send it in a second time we'll document that we want the school name and address and the block and lock number addresses are complicated in san francisco we rely on a block and lock map some of the schools maybe on multiple lots please give us the lot number to see the size and scope the contact information who've you want to appoint this would be the person ahead of the schools the
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principle it doesn't matter on if it's the identified person for the project section 3 repeating the school name on top sometimes papers get separated and one of the thing is resources how are we going to find this as i mentioned some engineers or arithmetic wisconsin you can use maintain licensed in california we have a comprehensive resource lift we work with the association of northern california they've surveyed their plea bargains 23s it is a nonprofit structural engineers and they provided a resource list we've put together a resource list of the engineers of san francisco unified school district they've used for the retroactive and evaluation between those sources there are several names that guess posted on the website other wwwsftv.org
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back slash e s i p stand for earth quaked just to make sure we get the audio please come up to the microphone. >> good afternoon paul with san francisco will the scope part be determined to decide whether or not we need the evaluation or are we to have the evaluation done that's one question and schools that have been had major seismic roller coasters will they can didn't want or have the evaluation done. >> that's an excellent question at a point of contact i've been working with the city for almost 3 years prior to that i was the
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building code consultant so i've had the privilege of working with the schools and many as they went through the renovation process there was a huge retrofit the work was done you have a safe this and i've seen the entryway so 0 doing the engineering evaluation is a simple you have access to the existing plans and calculations so the engineer should be able to do that quickly that's an important point if you're schools have done revving use the engineer feel free to use whoever you want if you have plans and information that's going to make their job easier. >> thank you i'm with the stern's school our hyphen highly
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is in a church we've got more than that 25 ask the full-time do we need to evaluate. >> without seeing the document i'm assume there was a permanent building permit to change the school in addition to the in such u church so if you said you didn't want to evaluate it church you'll have to move that school as long as the kids are there it's evaluated and so a single building yeah. the whole building. >> not part of the evaluation so for those of who you who didn't hear the question is ada triggered as part of the evaluation with that said, if
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you choose to do a retrofit there's a remit in chapter 11 this have to be complied with and sorry to keep come back to this so our school is in a church we don't own the church we're that renting the spaces who guess responsible for the program. >> that's an excellent question we have self schools in san francisco that are owned by others and rent this assumes the owner is the responsible part with that said, it is complicated open who is responsible when you talk about the lease terms the owner is responsible but they obviously need to work in conjunction with the school i should have pointed that out but it gives spaces and option to identify that to say the school is owned by the person we're the tenant and between the parties decide who the contract is and we'll decide
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who the law son is. >> how soon is the relieving contractors come up in the summer this is 2, 3, 4 two months for summer school so during two months are you supposed to finish the retrofitting and again, it good afternoon, supervisors actually it's done how it is proposed and i think that is important leaving relieving is volunteer if the school choose to there's no deadline or requirement if they want to do it in phases their more than welcome two too. >> if san francisco unified school district owns the property and lease the building to a private school since it's not in your is it in our
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jurisdiction. >> the siren way to talk about there's a couple of works the charter schools sometime they're related to in san francisco unified school district owned buildings in d s a is the authority having the jury instruction they're not required to follow the san francisco building code if it is something that the city is - >> is there a way to hide as a charter school because they're on city property and not in d s a. >> i haven't seen a case like that. >> it property comes up where they skis through the krangdz. >> anecdotal it is profoundly d s a. >> the second question i have you mentioned when we're going
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through the revving there are a lot of private schools that are very old we're going to be going through preservation alsz lights; right? and correct. >> we did a s i there was a trial i want to let people know that is a full review by the building inspection and all the parts of building inspection. >> yeah. i think that is a previous thing to talk about for case management what we want to do is set i up for success if you're planning on doing a construction project let's have that conversation we worked with others thirg things did you think about accessibility if you do this it will trigger xyz that's what we want to do walk
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you through it and give you an idea construction k is expensive and downtime for school is hard to keep with we're going to minimize the downtime and maximum the time for a building permit historical review if you're doing exterior work think about having a conversation with the denial having we have a interagency working group we've identified one key person in every city department with the plan process department of building inspection, san francisco fire department work sf puc and everybody else that touches is dph we have point people in the departments it's on our website those are the right people to talk to we
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recommend if you have general questions start with us we're happy to make the connections the late thing call a number and get passed around we want to give you a superior service to get you set up. >> one quick question i apologize to the audience more of a question to you david i was curious about the evaluation form whether or not it recognizes the benchmark from the a s 41 are we still required to fill out the form if it's a benchmark building. >> i'm david i was the structural engineer answer is yes, the engineering criteria tore this evaluation tlaits there's a national standard i get the advantages
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for s c 41 one it the relatively new buildings are benchmarked structural non-structural so that goes to the question of those who had a retrofit that meets the safety standard i can use that to benchmark and be done. >> we talked about the possibility of fingering ada issues b what about california energy. >> it is triggered on a couple of things you'll trigonometry envelope the way your building reattains energies so if you're basically changing opposing that's something you want to consider basically, the only time for example, you touch the lighting this transitions the lighting system it is localize so it will work with the right
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consultant and same thing for your mechanical. >> do daefrz come under this or two or 4 unit buildings or large. >> so it is about single-family daefrz not intended to be under the ordinances there's a couple of examples first of all, say the kind of at home a single-family home and someone b is watching several children it is not e occupancy no, not required a subsequent requirement less than 25 children no requirement to evaluate so seems like the situation is not required unless a larger daycare well, if i don't see anyone else we'll conclude we have a list of engineers just a prompt if you
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