tv Planning Commission 11416 SFGTV January 16, 2016 2:00am-2:41am PST
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francisco is in a housing crisis those are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances i'd like to state 8 neighbors here along with other neighbors that oppose the project as property openly on the height and mass the curre the current buildings can you turn that on please the two story structures with a 50 foot facade it is important we think about the orientation of that proposed building it is also oriented faced 21st street and that is in my opinion an important issue relating to the design the proposed project adds a floor above and excavates a floor blow this is why we're
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here the building a is on 21st the western gateway to the delores height it sets the appearances of the neighborhoods and it's thank you on 21st what makes this proposed exceptional or extraordinary well, if you look at it is the only building with a 50 front facade no setback and located on the corner why are we concerned as you can see you, you could move the lever up and down. >> thanks. >> those two the 50 foot facade is quite significant when you look at the building from the front we were unable with the render of the proposed building as well to be the view
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facing 21st street in any experience the actual building is often much, much bigger than the architect rendered let's try to understand how big is that the proposed front facade is 18 hundred vertical plain larger than two billboards with a 37 - it is for the scale for the project and - it shows the
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housing immediately across the board from this building all in designed in the same manner and the one further to the east is the third story and fits in with the neighborhood and the building across the street is also on the 35 foot lot but fits in well and has a good design for the northwest in 21st so to be clear we don't oppose a 3 story foot building the project sponsor take advantage of the block and they've added two more stories. >> turning your time is up. >> >> in support of dr requester you have 3 minutes. >> we have two speakers.
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>> no sfgovtv if you could - >> good evening. i'm christen i live directly across from the property with my husband coincidental architect john king wrote that homes in delores heights have a sensitive i'm a big fan of contemporary and modern architect my feeling is that this homes design does not share the aesthetics and in its current home okay in the current form as a mediterranean home it has no design, however, it has some real contributes a natural too story scale and proportions
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are fairly sensible this helps the roof is in portion to the body and garages and breaks down the frontage and consider rat of the neighbors down the hill and to the west in my view it has problems to good earth naming the materiality and sites quickly as an example the home on sanchez and 20th street whether your personal opinion it has eye pleasing overview potential and materiality with the woods and metals it is well integrated with the site and shares the neighborhoods design sensibility of appropriate scale the design of the proposed home
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in my opinion has problems first, as previously mentioned a volunteering foot facade the gateway to delores heats the design to add another story on top of that investigator foot facade creates an offer scaled residence to the street the structure over overwhelms the site the third story didn't integrate regarding the stucco creates a heavy feel and dominates and the aluminum material light was stuccoed and a bit of wood didn't provide did visible depth and plus that materiality is not offset by a creative sense of form which is
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a problem because it is so big the side of the building is surfacing face thank you, ma'am. >> i'm a resident the delores heats and the delores plan use committee all to object to the redesign of the first story flat in the proposed building the proposed project will be the loss of affordable unit that can accommodate a family and consist with other buildings the duplex with two multi room flats part
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of the flat was occupied by a family with two children this proposed building has over 4 hundred feet and adds two floors with despite the floors the project eliminates the modesty room flat in the proposed design - the new unit in the basement is a one-room studio the entrance and the one from that time only window are on noah street from the building with no windows or light part of studio shares a wall with the tan dumb garage and the bathroom appears to lack a private bathroom shared with access to the garage
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didn't seem to center a private bathroom in the subterranean unit by 2 thousands to the 36 hundred to be completely clear it is a very large single-family home like a children's playroom and not the current duplex this is reasonable consist with the development to the neighborhood a loss of a building that justifies this to restore a liveable second unit and one other thing that i grew up. >> thank you your time is up. >> >> he has 30 seconds and
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i grew up in the richards district we lament that put other 90 out in the 60s and 70s it is a new generation it is largely a large structure for a new generation we'll live to regret the structures. >> any other speakers in support of dr requester you have 3 minutes. >> hello my name is pamela i live on 21st street i've been living in the neighborhood for 20 years i walk past this house for 20 years i'm glad to see new owners will be repairing the home it is in sad shape you i must say i'm shocked that was approved to be the size
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it is if you notice in the photo the house already take up almost the entire lot in the alley so the new property o proposed home would be a larger mass of very, very tight lot i recommend this sponsor remove the third story to reduce that and respect the neighbors aesthetic responsibility but if it the commission didn't approve the residential project of this scale i ask the developers to reconsider their choice of materials to create something of architectural
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interest the neighbors oppose the current size of home that lives adjacent to the property and 3 of them have this view - it is not popping up do you need to do something with the - there we go. >> this is the view of the 3 neighbors who would be affected by the proposed property and in conclusion i'd like to say that from the plan does glow i hope the architect will look at the south wall since their moving the garage to the other side of the building they'll have a manifests south facing faed and the current design
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after reviewing the architectural design is simplistic and need more interesting architectural features thank you. >> any other speakers in support of dr requester. >> okay. seeing none project sponsor 5 minutes. >> here's some materials there's a pallet of finished materials that we got the request 3 days ago now something that gives for debate to the materials in terms of the manufacture so my name is billy the architect so the exist building is previously described two dwelling units a lower unit
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6 hundred and 50 square feet at the first floor the larger units is 14 hundred and 50 on the second floor the 6 hundred 50 square feet units is actually a studio there is a room that is using as a bedroom that took over from the garage space has no property addressed window are proper light there is a garage parking for two cars no rear yard contrary to what was said earlier the side yard is remaining as is we're not certainly going to - the noah facade has two garage door and 21st facade has two garage doors and there are two
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entries to the two units also on 21st that are fairly obscure one entry applause a arched hallway that leads to a door that leads to four or five and recesses into that building and the z shaped you come in and turn left and turn right it is recessed about 10 feet from the street and concealed above the sidewalk the lot slopes downhill and from set to north the proposal to maintain the two-story envelope to develop the sloped ear at least the first story that goes to noah street within the footprint of
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the building and added the 3-r that opens to the roof deck that is an important feature because there is little exterior space a new lower level will contain an 8 hundred and 25 foot units it is located a second entry as a side yard of the unit the lover level is parking with interior access to both unit and the third story roof deck will contain the next 1, 2, 3 floors will contain the new unit that is 36 hundred plus square feet is it so important to note of that 36 hundred plus square feet only 6 hundred and 50 feet is the third story additional space
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the rest is in the two distinct floors of massive building a lot of is where the garage is near the first story and becomes habitual the footprint is limited to 6 hundred that is 47 perishes of the lot and half of the second story it is setback considerable if into streets to differentie. - the on the east side of the building we setback the third floor another 15 feet from the
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property line this was done in in conjunction with working with that neighbor that owns the adjacent property he worked with throughout the design process she's providing a letter of support all to note regarding the neighborhood scale 20 off the houses are third story and 6 are second story long noah street the building directly north of that. >> thank you your time is up. >> speakers in support of project sponsor you have 3 minutes you're not on the project sponsor team. >> no, i'm the owner. >> you can have a two minute rebuttal the dr requester have a 2 minute
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rebuttal a 2 minute rebuttal. >> it needs to be the party of dr requester sir, you spoke under public - thank you. >> you wanted to clarify our main issue is that this house is extraordinary because of it's 50 foot facade it design is on a little with the 50 foot facade are going to be different than the building with the 25 foot facade we have absolutely no problem with three or four stories houses in noah there are some it is just the dimensions of the facade on the corner lot and it being the gateway to delores heats it's setting back a tone that is itch harmonyus with the neighborhood setbacks
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that's all. >> thank you project sponsor a two minute rebuttal. >> good evening. i'm michael i'm here because my power ball numbers if add up and also the subject property i consider the dr requester a good neighbor i was available to work with her and address her concerns since last april with the neighborhood meeting i never heard from her until the request for this hearing i reached out to her on october 17th to no avail provided her with my phone call and she phoned me i was approachable and ready to work with her this makes reference to how my remodel effects the light and air typography and the fog
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rolling past the tower and the twinkling romance of a night time sky in any case she didn't reach out to me a member of the heights approached me and asked me to join the mile-per-hour aside from that introduction i never heard or heard from her despite the remodel the neighbor to the east nooich the most effected and the owner of a truly historic resource had the most at stake again in my opinion she's prototyped of provided a letter of support take into account she's a good example of progress work we made changes after establishing a dialogue i ask you not accept
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that discretionary review thank you for your time. >> public comment is closed. commissioner moore. >> i have to think how to get into the discussion not as - let me say i appreciate the department really shaping the building we're not discussing the code compliant but in many cases the communication in the project it is too large because of square footage we don't have that here i'm interested in deciding into with wife project i have some thoughts i believe that the rendition of the design will we find it actuating some of the comments the dresser has observing in the
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neighborhood has made the other thing i building that the lack of guidance on the ground floor or basement unit as of real concern to me i believe that the building of 50 foot units of a 50 foot length is huge it is almost that is a long narrow this barely 14 foot wide with windows on one side i have a question the plan as depicted i may have - i opened 80 a second set of drawings i don't believe they are correctly drawn because the unit on the rear side on the garden side didn't show a separation of how the unit will be xhund from the south i see
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the stairs coming from the upper floor but not quite know how that works and in addition the bathroom opens to the garage for the secondary door i'm not sure when the intent from our unit to the bathroom but go to the garage did work for me that aside the building relate to the sensitive the scale is somewhat too bland and two unrender the windows are too big a very large facade i don't have a problem with the rooms but the facade i find two simplest and the a lot of flush non-very, very fade makes that even worse because as the building didn't have shadow,
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etc. that becomes mormon lyric than perhaps it should be i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say before we discuss that. >> commissioner antonini. >> it is not a huge change because the lower unit is fairly small even as it is now, however, you're going there are no to a lot of expense to create that lower floor that is now going to have the studio it seems to me you could do the same thing but the lower floor the garage and have our parking there and take i am the mid floor unit and could be two floors with most of the bedrooms on the upper floor i didn't hear objections to the sized of third
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story addition they probable said it could be taller or bigger don't like the magnificently that allows you with the framework but add the floor and dig out the bottom and then create a unit a living unit that might be 3 thousand or 3200 square feet on the europe two floors and maybe a 15 or 16 hundred square feet unit i'm not telling you how to make your project but two nice family sized unit. >> commissioner wu. >> you know following on the commission and have the same concern about the bathroom is seems like it not intend to be a studio but a pass through room to get to the garage would like
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to see more articulation of two distinct unit and could be the suggestion that commissioner antonini gave. >> thank you i'd like commissioner antonini where was going i think who will live in a studio just they're two units and making it too units it didn't look that liveable you know it is almost could be considered like a situation last week the larger building on ord street with a studio a large house wrapped and they intend to go studios their unrented but create a small unit i don't know the situation but a much more liveable second unit making that less liveable the
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design a aggressive for spot it is on i like the words unrender and honestly looks like take our trying to bring mission bay to delores heats not designed for the neighborhood commissioner hillis i'm sorry commissioner antonini. >> no, i don't why i'm up there again. >> i'm new to this folks commissioner moore. >> i was looking drawings the sad part is any unit to me is an afterthought particularly because it is a push for that or might make it more suitable for approval what distributors me pd the residential design the live in space is the same as the garage
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the width of the garage is as equally important as the second story you look at the dining room table that looks at ideal to the parking of a car it is something really off and i think i would view to rethink what we're doing with the second unit i'm comfortable with the room but it as question who it influences the facade and how it modulates the building expression as a two unit building with multiple recognition the second units the smaller unit deserves as much light and air a little the large upper unit i think this a fair challenge i'll say we have to
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send the project back in order to achieve that all and all the challenges on the residential design team and the variances are fine but the the devil is in the details so i think i'll move to continue. >> yeah. >> as this project meets the challenges on unit size and location facade design and a realty where i want to see more work rather than giving this to the commission without a description included in our package. >> is there a second and second we need to make it april? >> april 7th. >> april 14th and maybe the 14
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april 14th is available commissioner hillis yeah. i agree with the comments and you know it is up to you meet the challenges but especially on the second unit two vegetable and divide up the 21st street facade but good when we get this bang the rendering are at the corner and we're not really seeing that facade as well we should and some of the issues with that facade so we're do the rendering he recognize you'll make changes but to get it from that angle not just the corner. >> i think to commissioner hilliss point i want to see a 3-d render looking up noah and down noah as well as what you have on both directions a sense of what we're looking at. >> thank you commissioner antonini and i think you're
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doing a lot of the rights things in using this elevation to create open space by but that is more suited to the parking and mechanical rooms to the mid sized unit and have a couple of floors the upper unit the neighbors will will let you know what they feel about the size of 3-r that is the four story but i don't hear a lot of opposition it is done taste fully all are so do a lot less if you design it you're adding a lover unit and ups floor not as expensive of a project it is a little bit better with the neighborhood. >> call the question, please. >> absolutely commissioners to continue this matter to april 14th with the direction of
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the commission commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and places you on general public comment for which i have no speaker cards. >> any general public comment 3 minutes. >> no. >> not at that point. >> any general public comment. >> ma'am, you'll have to come up to the microphone that you want to make that this issue has been heard. >> no a code issue no. >> anything else seeing no general public comment - >> can you come to the microphone please. >> i think that is a clarifying question can someone
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who is here the press, all our communities partners are here come on matt we have matt right there are for the school district thank you for making it this press conference happen that is probable one of the month crucial and important issues and topics that is going on about gun violence you know taking into consideration what is happening all around the world and country and city we're here as a community everybody is one to eradicate gun violence i'm rudy the ed of the analyzing an organization that has been standing and fighting against gun violence for the last 21 years i'm here with my people my community and everybody that is here who is serious about this
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issue we we want to make sure we eradicate gun voipgsz that we are here you take this issue serious one of the most important protections is dealing with the mothers the mothers have lost their sons to gun violence we want to make sure we let them know that also they're being heard and they're being dealt with prove or disprove so me being involved in the violence field for 21 years we tale with youth kids from all over the community all over the city with the help of brothers like brother rich from project and from the vip team in the building and so without further ado, i want to invite mayor ed lee to come on up we've got to put him
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on pause the president of the united states we have to put on mayor ed lee let's welcome the ferry rosz robber mayor the city mayor ed lee (clapping.) >> rudy thank you to you and your staff for making your house available to co-host this important press event that announces our intention to join you you're police chief and mothers, people who really want to embrace non-violence to do this gun buy back this start saturday in the morning i want to emphasize now working with united playaz and others community-based organizations and important as education is to us i know we have a school board
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member matt haney as important we want good jobs and everyone it this room that wants better paying jobs in this city we want training, we want economic development and other nonprofits to be on their own buildings like the united playaz all of that becomes nearly enforceable inform you got violence violence distracts you from everybody and the trauma lasts for generation unfortunately for families and the communities that are involved and so it is our attempt with this gun buy back to reduce the opportunity for violence people can have disagreements purely disagreement between me and the board of supervisors sometimes can create some good solutions but if people resort
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to violence to resolve their it didn't make any difference to make their presence known or try to get something that is not going to solve anything that worsens the situation for everyone so i want to take a big that, of course, because this country as rudy indicated with the call from the president there is a lot of violence under our entire country and the bay area is no different and we got to reach out to more young people reach out to not so i don't know people that resort to violence we can't that that as an alternative we'll do our best working with the police department and along with the community groups and along with mothers and victims of violence that i know have every right to say what we need to say in front
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of the city hall or the mayor's office e.r. community groups i support that you mean at the end the message is less violence and embrace each other find a way to communicate with less violence if we do so you'll see advancements in education and advancements in jobs and more enhancement in community economic development that is what we're doing in our housing public housing that is the site of so many violence we're trying to champion that with community policing pea new techniques and 0 investing in our community and people and make sure we educate our kids it is no, no good answer and solution if you use violence and if we use good afternoon. welcome so getting the guns it is effective over the years i think we gotten over
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