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would be leveraged for some company trying to sell to physicians or someone we didn't want that to happen but not create a dictate with 40 millions californians not assessable to a scientist at ucsf trying to do analysis and research in cancer in alzheimer's and some other disease with the treatment a so on and so forth so that's what we do did we set out to do we launched it in august of 2014 and cal index became an official organizations in september of 2014 i believe we've provided some answers to some of the questions you should last night for the minutes before and i wanted to make sure that we had an opportunity to both state why question did this and make sure you have an finding and answer
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any of the questions remaining from the information if may not have been provided or if you have additional questions. >> so if there are questions i have questions i'm sure other commissioners do as well. >> you made a argument for universal health record i'm clear that is a universal health record you answered a lot of the questions i have two one is it appears that anyone who is data is forwarded to cal index can request a health plan or provider forward to them the information but does cal index because our getting a summary from all the provider presumably on any single enrollee so a member can review and then the
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process they have the members go back to the provider that provides the information to dispute is it there a little bit of confusion clarify that. >> we prefer that i'll let the officer answer thank you. >> part of the reason at this point some say stated by law under hip at blue shield and the provider are covered entities so part of that going back and saying blue shield could you you, please provide me we call it a patient record can you provide me the designated or the longitudinal patient record in cal index becomes legally that is the way that that hipa works with that said, we're looking
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for the future to come up with something won we can you know authenticate people and get the information from cal index to the individual we're not there today i don't want to have a situation you come to me i don't have enough data to authentic you in a way that blue shield are the way your physician is and i end up giving someone else your daughter to me as a provider it is cumbersome to you know expect this processo be very effective if i can't look at a record as part of who misdiagnosed my patient with dooefshz and all of a sudden and found out that they have diabetes bans a data. >> the clinical data within
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the longitudinal reported it records it will say diabetes diagnoses or a-1 c tested open this date. >> the patient can't get that nonetheless he or she knows the provider. >> they can get the longitudinal record from any. >> the whole record. >> you can go to our doctor's office i want to see my longitudinal record the physician can have it and print that record there right there for the individual just like call up blue shield and ask for the longitudinal record as well. >> my related question then i'm done i've been involved in you know databases before hiv was difficult to get physicians
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to find or their staff it find time to fill out a chart form that included we thought useful for a large database and so how are the physicians are their offices reimbursed for the time it takes to submit f this information and if someone comes in and ask them to print out the paper and 9 time it takes the staff how is the figures reimbursed. >> they're not reimbursed. >> it is a volunteer. >> they participate from cal index they keep in mind they get not only the information they put in but the information that the physicians put in an example would be i go to my physician and i my primary care i have an elevate a-1 c end up go to a
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specialist and they'll be able to see my lp r and if one of the medications i was taking was cac indicated the idea to produce better care the records we download the reported from the office and i'm a lawyer now a technology expert but what they can - they dloofld and at sometime we hope there will be a blending. >> sorry so let's say a non-partnering physician described the indicated medication so it was a non-partnering physician but city council. rightone: doesn't have access because it is was a non-xrarpt
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physician. >> well, it depends on so they won't have access is from the physician him or herself us u but from the claim is paid to blue shield we can get the request pb m through blue shield. >> the claim. >> is uploaded and what we are doing we're 12kr5k9 the claiming data. >> are other questions. >> well or comments. >> the claim and clinical information i was under the three combrefgs. >> it is the criminal information from the source we is one of the claim on a financial information complaining but physician site of service and type of service meds and those types of information we took a different
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view the data and the health plan typically does what a itself relevant information and put that two the cal. rightone: and try to fill in those. >> i have two questions will patient have access to change their data if it is incorrect. >> under that they can get a longitudinal records they can go back and we'll work with the provider to change the - >> how will they - >> our notice of persists you have the right to ask our provider for an amendment their notice of privacy it will be a acholic beverage effort and the other question is this is from a couple of years you have acknowledged you intend to use it for research although last
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time that was not one of the source of revenue to continue to fund it how can we be sure in 3 years when in is not working the way we want you don't sell to some other organization i mean is going there - there's no agreement between cal health and other services that protects my members from having their data sold in 10 years. >> we can't legally sell it we can only get the data under the perimeter that are participation agreement and allows us we are an under hipa a covered entity a health plan and the provider and there is vendor that is what we are vendor like ourselves are business associates did you law only allows us to.
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>> any patient with the extent of that contract figure we sell it outside the scope with the notice of privacy practice we would be in violation of the law. >> it could change your va. >> not without consent of the provider and the health plans we're doing business with and selling information under hipa is contemplated the intent to use only the identified data for research to benefit the public good. >> i think it would be quite difficult franklin to change the va a. >> it would be a public database. >> researched will not have access to the data directly what they'll do like any other they'll submit a research proposal we have not yielded
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engaged in any research activities of at this point we but- we will have they'll submit the research proposal we will create and work with an index rb to review the research proposal and with the index rb and with our board make the decision to whether this is research we want to participate in we're not going to participate in any research activities until the protocol is vetted. >> lastly you said that of members opt out their data is there are it won't be assessable to different emergency departments so you would potentially continue the research on this daughter we are prohibited the data is completely blocked we are that
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prohibited from looking at the data you know for research or any other partnership that is so forth in the privacy policy as well as our contract. >> just a few comments i thank you for your responsiveness in providing the information we asked i still have a foundational and i want to be very clear a fundamental concern the way this is deny did you not have enough faith in the membership you serve the members you service e serve you couldn't have gone to them and asked him if they wanted to be part of the process rather than be a part of whether or not i still don't understand the business decision to do is that way. >> and even after reading all
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this and your privacy notice it means each individual has to make the effort not to be part of it i'm stuck on that point beyond that i just don't i understand the charting perimeter to establish with our board this board is independent at the end of the day even the con stwrant they operate not a controlling interest you gave that up when the elected the board i understand the intent and the benefit of an with integrated medical record what is has a affordable health care act been talk about and the other health care reform i get the message i'm stuck thank you point of requiring our members
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to participate in this without informed consent i recognize i don't see is that way. >> to be clear the members are not required to operate one an content they have the opty to opt out i understand we are using the same words different my point i joined blue shield and i didn't have my information shared in the third party forum i didn't come to blue shield with that expectation not a member last year or the year before you've told me i'm not anita lee now part of this. >> we had the opportunity - i understand the position this is a rich date that is happening over the country's. >> yeah. >> we looked at and spent a lot of time going through this
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and how this is approached and looked at it this successes and failures across the country the liability of a critical mass the whole gamut of that and there is a rich debate across the country asia folks who are you know very much on one side and others on the other side and frankly i'll suggest not a really solid consensus. >> i'm not asking about contention i'm talking about a volunteer act my me as a member asking to participate at some point in the begriming is guard had a maybe medical useful but at the end of the day i have no control unless i opt out any benefit to me is denied once i do that it is like a choice at
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the end of the day i have a problem with it and the other piece is the level of employer, letter vendor partnership relationship communication every time this board meets on a monthly basis we have an open agenda item of anything that might be a future there are of any interest under the scope of duties and precious little notice this was d being down or done i find that problematic we have a clear working relationship with blue shield and nothing and to my working knowledge i've been here have been discussed with this board formally we're under thanking that's a good question this is reason and so forth so that's why but find me more resistant
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at the end of the day it violates the functional promise of a vendor partnership so i am stuck and i don't know know if i'll get you think stuck underlining unless we go on record recommending our members opt out so we missed the opportunity to come in front of the the board and communicate this we had discussions with the the president and some formal communication but absolutely missed the opportunity to come in front of the board i ielgs. >> any other questions or comments. >> one just out of custer i frnlt to our addendum opt out form to see if i can fill it out try superintendant guerrero our date of birth it assumes in
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january of 2016 in order to get your 40 years old you have to psychologically through 8 hundred plus members to find january of 1975 it takes two minutes when you tap over. >> i'll talk with our technology people immediately that is not what i've been informed and definitely that shouldn't be. >> what were you doing it an, an ipad. >> on a pc to the website a required field the only month is january 2016 you have to scroll back. >> this takes you have you tried it. >> no, i haven't. >> that's the defect. >> we'll take care of that.
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>> we have another question any other comments or observations. >> i want to clarify i'm a chronological or chronology your contract requires blue shield to clear any communications and beginning back in october of 2014 the first letter came out and we were stunned and but told we couldn't change that - i just
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wanted to information has gone to the members but information from i guess from blue shield but it is about cal index. >> i understand all right. we thank you for your presentation and follow-up today thank you. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> is there any public comment? claire representing all 71
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retirees and commissioner scott i support your comments and your prospective i share that and i'm greatly concerned for the members that are urban ware their data is collected and used and they were not properly informed and my own report to retirees will reflect the information that we got not only from the last meeting but today, there are concerned in the retiree community it is good it have shared medical data i understand that and many of the members that blink under the capillary system appreciate that about this system this was done without consent and i know your point that members should have the opportunity to opt in and not the opt out because the opt outburst kinds of options while
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they may meet the legal standards the individuals get things they don't realize the u.n. intended conventions are not explained this is problematic and the concepts seem fine the whole process in terms of how this was done the issues with the department not vetting those letters interest the process and not having lowell u allowing members the opportunity to opt into that a program is very problematic and i'm hoping that in the future something can be done about this i think your members need to be told that they need to be informed their data is lierltd this way and despite the protections of high blood pressure ca a there is serious concerns >> thank you for your comment is there any additional public comment? >> hello, again members of the
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board i want to echo the comments we represent the it workers here in the city and county of san francisco and so we you know have intricate living of data to what the city and the work you do but our membership you know see offhand the dangers when information is private and given away to private entities or nonprofit that don't have the level of security we are seriously considering sending a letter to our members to opt out until they look at this program and encourage the board to send a letter to all members encouraging them to opt out until they view the information from the fault your opted in
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you're in the program people will change that and i think this is concerning i saw the letters that were sent out to the members of the blue shield it is something that pefrm if i thought in blue shield i might have easily thrown that away e.r. understand the level of you know level of seriousness of this issue and you know i'm concerned we have had members that have no idea their information was shared to that stent and how it is being used and while the privacy policies seem nice you know, i on the members asking them to opt out instead of opting in it sdinz i encourage us to send out information around the program
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and encourage the members to opt out pd if at the do the research and want to be part of the program to on the back in and - you know. >> thank you. >> other public comment? and dennis kruger active of firefighters and widow those as one of the people that opted out when i got the letter what was not discussed in the letter if i opt out my information will remain until and they can for whatever reason have access to it internally of i've heard shaurps that's not true i'll propose to this woeshgs the opt out information is deleted
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otherwise why are you opting out >> thank you for your comment. >> may proposed action?. on that this item from board members >> well, you know, i do support the universal medical record i've not heard assurance about the privacy i appreciate and no, i rb for example, at this point but it abort me about the process i've been involved with other opt out process in terms of prescribing the information physicians don't understand how to opt out i'll recommend we ask the staff to look at drafting a letter reminding our blue shield enroll resolution this is an issue and
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look at the program this is as potential consequences without going introduce the issues ourselves. >> consent around that? directing that a letter be drafted by the executive director for review by the board regarding the cal index program to be directed to blue shield members who are part of our system? >> i hear no objection all right. we'll precede once the letter is drafted we'll take into account it. >> all right. at this - >> is that an action. >> i'm sorry that was a recommendation is there a second. >> i'll second it. >> thank you very much commissioner breslin. >> i still kind of caught up where i'm at on the topic
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(laughter) so is there any discussion by the board members on the motion. >> i'll say one thing an option to include that as an item for the regular newsletters from h ss that include the items of wellness and the category for the blue shield members. >> are you adding that as an amendment. >> i got the letter it was intended but that is an electronic communication. >> in addition to that. >> potential the communication can be part of electronic communication. >> i'll strongly endorse that. >> i apologize when i am reading this information it says it didn't increase the health information protected by the federal or state privacy provisions and that includes physio therapy and personal
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information and records relate to personed refs services for the state disability and the state test results i guess my question if you have a child with very well disabilities you are likely to get enrolled in a regional center would that will in the record to the emergency depended knows. >> we'll suspend action for one moment hopefully to expound. >> those exclusions that require specific through the law consensus that i'll allow doctor smith are jones to see my record
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and it is couldn't be done so if someone yes, we have to 0 exclude there's a law called lp s that requires. >> the example that was given was specifically about the development all if thai receive any state - >> we're back to objection axes on the motion. > all in favor, say i. > any public discussion there is public discussion on the motion. >> denls kruger active and retired fir for widows i think that should be boulevard responsible to pay for the letter that blue shield shared
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the mailing list to send the letters out that everyone is in unless you opt out they should send the letter out without the expense. >> thank you for your public comment any other public comment. >> that should be part of motion. >> it is part of motion we make a request that blue shield pay for the costs of mailing. >> of the letter once it is drafted and once it included did amended provisions discussed. >> can i comment i hope there were refusal to pay will not delay the h ss communication in any form electronic or by letter i feel that is something we have a responsibility to do. >> duly not any other comment from the board in favor significant by i
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opposed? so order all right. you the penalty of being a chair we have a discussion item and possible action, an sergiocy we have an action item on the annual report or two that we had indicated to our member we would be ready around 4 o'clock to go into closed session out of consideration we will do so so i'm going to suspend the portions of the action items at this time and request a motion as to whether we should hold the closed session for a member of appeal. >> motion. >> second. >> it's authenticating we suspend our regular meeting
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agenda at this time to have a closed session for a member appeal is there any public comment? hearing no public comment we're ready to take the motion >> questions. >> i think we're back in live session. >> i think we are too. >> thank you, madam secretary and having concluded our business for the regular meeting we are officially adjourned
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>> hello, i am with the recreation and parks department. we are featuring the romantic park location in your backyard. this is your chance to find your heart in santa and cisco with someone special. -- san francisco with someone special. our first look out is here at buena vista park, a favorite
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with couples and dog walkers. both have a significant force. a refreshing retreat from urban life. the romantic past that meander up and down the park under pines and eucalyptus. hang out in this environment and you might see butterflies it, fennel, and then the lines. -- dandelions. is ada accessible. public transit is plentiful. we have conquered the steps, we have watched the dogs, and we have enjoyed a beautiful view. this is a place to take someone special on a romantic stroll and
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enjoyed a beautiful look out. welcome to corona heights located in the heart of this district. it offers a view of the downtown skyline, the bay bridge, and the east bay. it is one of the best kept secrets in the city. it is hardly ever crowded. on any given day, you will run into a few locals. , bought a 37 bus to get there without any parking worries. for legged friends can run freely. there is also a patch of grass for the small box. >> it is a great place. it is a wonderful place to have these kinds of parks. that dog owners appreciate it. >> take time to notice of the wildfires that are on the grassland and keep your head out on the lookout for hawks and other bird life.
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be sure to take your camera and be prepared to take a view of the city will not forget. it has a beautiful red rock formations. you could watch the sunrise over the bay. this is another one of our great lookouts. we are at mount davidson. 928 feet. this is the place for you to bring someone special. to not forget that dogs and enjoy all of the pathways and greenery that surrounds you. it provides a peaceful oasis of open space and great hiking trails. the spectacular view offers a perfect place to watch the sunrise or sunset with someone you love. >> it is a good place to get
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away from the hectic life of the city. come up here and listen to nature, i get some fresh air. that view is fantastic. >> where sturdy shoes. hikers get the feeling of being in a rain forest. mount davidson is also a great place to escape the noise and the bustle of the city. take the 36 bus and it will drop you at the entrance. it is quite a hike to the top but the view is worth every step. this is the place to bring that someone special. golden gate park's largest body of water is an enchanting place. is a popular spot for paddling
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around in boats, which can be rented. created in 1893, it was designed for these your boating -- for leisure boating. it is named for the wild strawberries that once flourished. there is also a waterfall, two bridges, and trails the climb to the summit, the highest point at more than four hundred feet. you can catch glimpses of the western side of the city that make this hilltop a romantic look out. for public transit, i take the n train. the lad the ad -- lake is ada accessible.
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watch many ducks, swans, and siegel's. -- seagulls. it is a great place to stroll and sail away. many couples come here to take a ride around a lake, going under the bridges, passing the chinese pavilion and the waterfall. for a quiet getaway, making for a memorable and magical experience. located on 19th avenue, this growth is the place to where you're hiking boots, bring the family and the dog because it has so much to offer you and your loved ones. it is a truly hidden gem in the city. the park is rich with eucalyptus trees. long paths allow you to
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meander, perfect for a dog walking in a wooded environment. >> i enjoy the history. the diversity of nature that exists in such an urban city, concrete streets, cars, we have this oasis of the natural environment. it reminds us of what the history was. >> there is a section for dogs and plenty of parking. transit is available on the 28 bus to get you very easily. the part is ada -- park is ada accessible. it is also a natural lake. this is your chance to stroll around the lake and let the kids run free. it also has many birds to watch. it is a place to find and appreciate what you -- a
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wonderful breath of fresh air. come and experience in this park and enjoy the people, picnics, and sunshine. this is a lovely place to take a stroll with your loved ones. in the middle of pacific heights, on top of these hills, it offers a great square, a peaceful beauty, large trees and grass and greenery. it features tables and benches, a playground, restaurants, and tennis courts. there are plenty of areas for football and picnics. it is very much a couple's park. there are many activities you can experience together. stroll on the pathways, bring your dog, or just picnic at one
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of the many tables and enjoy all that it has to offer together. many couples find this is a perfect park to throw down a blanket and soak up the sun. it is a majestic place that you can share with someone you chairs. lafayette park is also easily accessed from the 47, 49, and 90 buses. it is ada accessible. we are here at the historic palace of fine art in the marina district. originally built for the 1950's exposition, the palace is situated on san francisco's number waterfront. it is ada accessible and is reached by the 28, 30, and 91
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bus lines. set against the reflecting waters of the lagoon and eucalyptus trees, the palace is one of san francisco post most -- san francisco's most romantic spots to relax with that special someone while listening to the water and gazing at the swans. a beautiful to view from many locations along the mattoon, an ideal place to -- all -- lagoon, an ideal place to walk with a loved one. reservations for weddings are available at sfrecpark.org. discarding contains plants referred to by william shakespeare's plays and poems.
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welcome to the shakespeare garden here in the famous golden gate park. located near the museum and the california academy of sciences, the garden was designed by the california spring blossom and wildfilower association. here is a truly enchanting and tranquil garden along a path behind a charming gate. this garden is the spot to woo your date. stroll around and appreciate its unique setting. the gorgeous brick walkway and a brick wall, the stone benches, the rustic sundial. chaired the part -- share the bard's word hundred famous
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verses from a shakespearean plays. this is a gem to share with someone special. pack a picnic, find a bench, and enjoy the sunshine, and let the whimsical words of william shakespeare and floats you and your loved one away. this is one of the most popular wedding locations and is available for reservations. take a bus and have no parking worries. shakespeares' garden is ada accessible. located at the bottom of this hill, it is a secret garden with an infinite in captivating appeal. carefully tucked away, it makes the top of our list for most intimate pyknic setting. avoid all taurus cars and hassles by taking a cable car.
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or the 30, 45, or 91 bus. the garden was designed by thomas church in 1957. grow old with me, the be yet to be is inscribed on a sundial. it is anchored by twin white gazebos and flowers that bloom year-round. this is the place to tell someone special or the place to declare the commitment you two share. weddings and the event reservations are available for this adorable hidden gem. we know there are many other romantic parks in san francisco. we hope you have enjoyed this torre of lookouts, picnics, and
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strolls that are available every day. until next time, do not forget to get out and play. for more information about reserving one of these romantic locations or any other location, call 831-5500. this number is best for special events, weddings, picnics, and the county fair buildings. or for any athletic field, call 831-5510. you can write us at -- or walk in and say hello. and of course you can find more information moresfrecpark.org. --
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patrick. >> welcome to another episode of stay safe i saw us prepare our crawl space on this episode we'll saw the sheer wall you'll see the finished product hi, i'm patrick and welcome to another episode of stay safe? the second part we're retrofitting the triple wall as you can see we've installed one
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of the sheer ply wall on the first episode we provided blocking to secure the ply we'd and bolted and provided the connection with the floor i'm joined by thor madison. >> thor structural engineers and thor knows more about sheer walls than anybody i've met in my life. >> it provides the stable ability that would rock before and after during around earthquake the nails along the edge of the plywood will reduce the chance of the building falling down. >> what else should we consider in getting ready. >> one thing about plywood a
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natural material that absorbs moisture and the panels can swell depending on the moisture if they swell they'll bulk out it is important probation officer leave a gap between the panels so before we install the next panel we'll drive in a couple of nails used to as temporary spares. >> what are the nails. >> 16 penny singers a good saying that and we don't need to be concerned with the exact nail size only the gap the next panel will be held with the existing panel we'll pull those down. >> we have peter from the construction why not go outside and cut our second panel
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so, now we've got the plywood let's go ahead and get it put up see if we can get it in place. >> by looking at that a perfect fit why not get peter in here to nail it down. >> so peter did a great job with the nailing but important to know this work requires a permit in the department of building inspection whether you're doing the work or a left
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hand contractor make sure you have the proper permit and additional to the nailing anything you want to talk about thinking about the plywood. >> the more plywood to install the better and make sure that the nails along each edge of each panel so you can't forget and hedge and had it perform the same thing. >> another example of little money you can substantially rusz reduce the >> good afternoon. and welcome to the land use & transportation committee of the san francisco board of
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supervisors i'm scott wiener i'm the vice chair of the committee our committee chair supervisor cowen will not be able to attend today's meagerly to my left is supervisor jane kim to my right is mark farrell pointed out to sit in the committee 2, 3, 4 place of supervisor cowen i want to thank probation officer sfgovtv for broadcasting today's he or she phil jackson and jim smith madam clerk, any announcements? >> yes. electronic devices. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the january 26, 2016, board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated thank you very much and before we start could i have a motion to k350us supervisor cowen we'll take that without objection. supervisor cowen is excused to
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me one. >> grandfathering prediction to stanford chain to occupy a portion of the public right-of-way between phil ton to construct and have new improvements with the driveways and society foundation okay item number one i believe the department of public works is here to present shaw. >> game-changer shaw with the public works just to briefly go 0 into the description felt major encroachment application for the 7th avenue the applicant mr. chang an 2014 requested public works do a major encroachment permit for the bridge driveway that was to basically grant access to the new building and the garage from the street and this bridge is basically stan over existing
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conditions which was a ditch that requires the bridge construction this was previously approved by the board and in 2004, however, that resolution constituent the condition this shall be constructed no longer than may 2005 and now a new encroachment is required this is why we're here today so public works went through the procedures and performed the review including getting approvals from the planning department and another division after getting all the appropriate agency reviews public works held the public hearings after which the director granted a directors decision to move forward and based on the approvals and the what has been submitted public works recommends moving forward
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with this application. >> thank you very much colleagues questions or comments on item one. >> supervisor kim. >> i had a quick question for public works just in terms of the public comment that came out was there a comment in support or opposition. >> there was primarily opposition, however, many of the comments that came in were opposed to the actual building construction rather than the encroachment and therefore several of the comments we addressed - we informed the people so 5ed one of the other concerns was the lack of the survey being submitted to public works, however, a survey was submitted on august 28th and after the review of the survey we determined the plans are enough to go forward. >> what were the objections to the actual building though not related.
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>> has to do with with the use of building i believe one of the main complaints was that there was an unauthored use of another room built below grade that was not part of our plans so i didn't see the actual floor plans. >> will there is a review. >> yes. by the planning department staff and building inspection we don't have jurisdiction we public works didn't have the authority. >> no, no i understand i wasn't sure were there was in the timeline. >> i believe the planning department and the department of building inspection have thoroughly gone through those the owner of the building is here to further address that if you want. >> thank you very much. >> no other questions or comments we'll move to public comment is there anyone from the public that wishes to speak on item number on item number one seeing none, public comment is closed and colleagues, can i have a motion to forward item one to
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the full board of supervisors with a positive recommendation. >> motion by supervisor farrell can we take that without objection? without objection that will be the order madam clerk call item 2 >> item 2 a hearing on short-term rentals registration and enforcement activity with the current staffing with the short-term rental administration and enforcement and any resources to adequately enforce it. >> thank you very much madam clerk colleagues, i called for this hearing as a standing quarterly oversight hearing to be take into account enforcement efforts and status by the zoning administrator's office and the city in general so short-term rentals play an important role in our city many residents of the city people who particularly own their own homes that rely on
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the income from short-term rentals to make ends meet and i want to thank the many short-term rental 40e69s that have really become vocational around this issue to make sure as a percolates in city hall and last year on the booklet that all voices were heard so it is important for us to make sure that people that are engaging in are short-term rentals in a responsible and legal way are able to do so and register are able to pay their taxes be responsible residents and earn. to staying in their homes or keeping up with the cost of living in san francisco at the same time, we need to make sure that short-term rentals are being done in a responsible way we need to make sure that the short-term rentals are not can
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belittling the housing stock people are not evicted for short-term rentals to happen and make sure that we have reasonable perimeters around short-term rentals and that spirit this board of supervisors on two different occasions passed legislation for the very first time to regulate short-term rentals never been registration of short-term rentals in san francisco until the current law took effect february 1st of last year over the summer the board of supervisors made adjustments to that law that law is not one year old i've been vocal about letting this law work and making sure we're appropriately administering it and putting up resources into the enforcement to crack down on abuse of short-term rentals awhile allowing legal short-term rentals to move forward and rather than rushing to make
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amendments to this law give this law a chance to work it to work there has to be good enforcement that is critical this summer the board of supervisors 55 the legislation created the office of short-term rentals under the zoning administrator's office in addition in the budget the mayor and board significantly there's the enforcement resources for the office of short-term rental so that the office of short-term rental can help people into compliance and people registered and people understand what they have to do within the confines of the law while at the same time going after the bad actors and the abusive and illegal short-term rentals and cracking down on incentives if they violate the law there's a reasonable chance to get caught
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this law is in effect for 11 months and 6 months in the revised form and about of 6 months or so into the office of short-term rental and so the point of today's here to getting an update if the office of shareholder about register or register and enforcement and generally helping going our intent to convene this hearing quarterly do get ongoing update we can go ahead informed but most importantly 9 public is informed given the dialogue around the short-term rentals it is important that the public so have confidence that enforcement is happening and have that level of oversight and transparency and so that is really the purpose of today's hearing so i want to note i network to say
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that supervisor campos is joining us well to the legislative and supervisor avalos i'll recognize you now. >> thank you, mr. chair i want to thank you for putting 24 item on the agenda it is the idea that we are on regular basis looking at the issue of enforcement i think that it goes without saying there's a different prospective that i have in terms of of how i see the enforcement around short-term rentals i understand what you're saying but i respectfully disagree with our description what i think has happened i'll continue to say what i've always said that the rules that have been put 2, 3, 4 place in san francisco do not provide proper and metabolic
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oversight and oversight of short-term rentals and because of that we are losing housing stock to short-term rentals and to the office of short-term rentals enforcement certainly looking forward to hearing what they have to say and report but based on you know my review of what they've done and certainly based on the hearing we had last time i've seen them and hope it is no longer the case but as a paper tiger that has not the power the resources to have anything meaningful happen in terms of enforcing short-term rentals i hope that is not the case we'll find out but i certainly look forward to hearing the presentation but one thing i'll say that it was really sad for
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me to read i on a couple of days boo ago the article in the chronicle you had our good zoning administrator really strong leader being in a position which he was basically like the rest of the city begging people to do the right thing and i think this is sad that is where we are today in san francisco that instead of promulgating rules that still requires corporations to do the right thing and actually on behalf of responsible we are begging this year corporation airbnb to do the right thing we're afraid to require them to do the right thing but i think this is a sign of the times and i will simply and
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my statement by noting this issue will not go away i know that those of us who worked on this will continue to work on this and that means bringing back this issue to the full board of supervisors so we can reinvite the issue of enforcement and maybe in time we'll actually have enforcement that does what it is supported to enforce thank you. >> thank you supervisor campos one thing i forgot to mention in any opening statements one thing i understand that airbnb being a local company and being the largest platform in this area this is a attracted a lot of the attention it is important when we talk about the issue about all the platforms i believe that
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average has approximately, one half of the short-term rental listing this is the number i recall but we also have airbnb and craigslist and home away and perhaps others and frankly airbnb agree or disagree with their position engage with other platforms to my knowledge have not yielded clearing colleagues no additional comments i'll invite up kevin the director of the office of short-term rentals and the zoning administrator's office i believe that mr. guy has a presentation for us. >> thank you and good afternoon, supervisors again, i'm kevin guy the director of the office of short-term rentals up to give an update if i could have the presentation on the overhead please so we're going to be going
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specific into the registration and enforcement numbers as well as the outreach to the hot platforms that was mentioned and changes to the website so first brief background on the issue the short-term rental program some of that recounts supervisor wiener's statements but the short-term rental program was effective in february 2013 that requires residents to rent out subject to conditions receptive of a business license so the office of short-term rentals was established in july to administer this will the enforcement i joined the office in september a total staff of 6 people so in terms of registration we received approximately 13 hundred application for short-term rentals so estimates of the short-term rentals citywide varies and change over
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time but generally means 25 percent of the short-term rental hosts in san francisco as far as have applied to the register of the program issued 8 hundred and 79 certificates thank you to the members of the public who have gone to the process and one hundred and 70 applications were rejected because of the proposals were not complete and have an application that came in september 2, '00 and 69 applications pending review and that trends is continuing with one and 50 appointments in january so as you can see there is an initial surge after the program and november and december we continued to see an uptick in the number of proclamation so,
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now applications so, now the discussions with the hovtd platforms and airbnb for reaching out in mid-december to talk about the specific items i'll discuss in detail we issued a lot of the zoning administrator and myself issued a letter not only to airbnb but other major hosting platforms to memorize and may consist amongst the hosting websites i do want to note those are items that a arrange of opposition with the hosting platforms do engage with one probation officer more of those items these are not necessary for us to administer the current law we'll be as business as unthinkable or usual and getting increase on the
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activities regardless of the activities but with that, i want to go into detail on the specific items first, we that those platforms identify the hosts that have must not listing for multiple properties in san francisco in definition not a permanent resident of more than one unit the user are taking multiple properties out of the housing pole and second they have the registration number as part of the accounts and listing third, that the website deactivates the year-round short-term rentals at the end of the year not a permanent residents in them therefore no eligible program and forwarded the specific addresses the hosting platform provides a listing on the website and into the websites the majority of
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lions share are not tied to an address although you see the pin drops their approximations of the quarter of a mile so again, this is an absolutely necessary to do our work in some amount of time and finally, the website push the information to the hosts regarding the requirement of the short-term rental the need to register and submit quarterly reports and submit their business taxes and other forms so i want to give you give you a little bit of background of the process and a brief official the first step it bans a complaint we received from the public or another agency or a pro-active case with the staff we conduct on investigation if we investigate and find no violation the case is closed but
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if we confirm the violation we issue a notice of violation this is an important step in the from those so where we have formally transitioned into a violation and penalties start to accrue so once the owner of the property get a ethics commission they contact the staff the first has the right to request an administrative hearing within 30 days not mandatory so if they choose not to we'll work with them or require them to remove their listing and provided proof of no further listing and provided penalties from the individual requires an administrative hearing within 45 days and thirty days after the hearing the hearing officer will issue a decision for the facts of the case and typically will assess penalties so once we've
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approved that property into the pro and again roving the listings, etc. and paying the penalties we close that case so here are the current improvements statistics so february 1st of last year a total of 2 add and 64 cases one and 55 are in various stages of investigation 14 were issued notice of violation we're waiting for penalties of payment and proof of violation has been abated so 95 cases have been fully closed that means the vertical found in violation or summoned through the assessment of penalties and they're in compliance we've assessed $475,000 in penalties those cases involve 64
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units and one and 24 thousands of those penlites are collected to date i should note the largest chunk or proportion of paid penalties revolves around enforcement case where the individual that we found in violation were up for review one and $90,000 in penalties so other outstanding penalties in older cases are reviewed with the agency we're meeting with them and we're looking to update the procedures without goes through the administrative hearing if they request a hearing we can make sure the violation is abated without preceding to a hearing that represented 2/3rd's of the cases through the enforcements process to date and dramatically
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increases the capacity to go after additional cases and go through the process. >> with additional - >> supervisor kim. >> thank you, mr. guy i have a question on enforcement you mentioned that a chunk of the fines were involving one case can you go into the expensive of the one case and my follow-up question is the trinity apartment in the news allegations that the property owner and developer were representative out units we've negotiated on behalf of of the city to remain below-market-rate i was wondering if you have an update. >> in 3 particular case i go back to the tree of our enforcement process at the time, we issued a formal ethics commission that is when the process is formalized the enforcement is we find that a
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violation and likely 0 or to have occurred we went through the administrative hearing at the our notice of violation was issued the entities that was sub at large if trinity had already been evicted by the trinity property organization for not paying their rent likely there was violations occurring prior to that but at the time of our enrollment process no enforcement waterways because the tenants war evicted we've referred it to the it don't make any difference and we found though the administrative process on 93 market tennis this is pending litigation we can't commit but that represents the throw our administrative hearing assessed one and $95,000 through penalties with that decision. >> i'm not familiar with the
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973 market building is 3 zoned residential. >> zoned rh3 it is generally residential and office space. >> it is regular use under planning even though it is a use under planning that is assigned by planning so is it residential. >> yes. it is a building that is issued and has an official residential use so the short-term rentals is only available for areas residential spaces that are formally defined as residential unit. >> supervisor campos. >> thank you thank you, mr. chair i want to mr. guy thank you for your presentation following up on the enforcement numbers 200 and 64 cases open in 95 fully closed
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can you explain a little bit more sort of when you decided to close a case i think i mentioned abatement and what exactly do you mean by that. >> thank you for the question closed in this case the budget bucket of 95 thomas a. swift's electric rifle cases are cases we received a complained from the public and investigated and found that perhaps the complainant was in arrow no violation of short-term rentals take place on that property and closes the case or if we go out and our staff investigates a little bit further and finds a violation in the past but the allergies is down where the aspects of the property simply no longer a short-term rental so the violation is essentially abated from in stand point no more violation occurring and they can include it includes cases that are taken through the formal process and have been
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fully abated with the penalties in terms of what abatement means we consider a case of abatement when a personal invitation violation they deactivate their listing from the platform their listing on and prove they've cancelled future bookings and after they deactivate their listing and not continue into the future g under the guys of darkness if those 3 conditions are satisfied we consider the condition abated. >> when someone deactivates a listing do you on a basis go back to make sure that continues that the activation continues or - >> yeah. so with our staffing we have a lot more ability to do that then we did severalty months ago all of the cases are
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resolved recently so i'm not sure that a person of a mindset to do so can deactivate their listing and increase the monitoring for compliance is something we're starting now and i should note that the repeat offenses the base fin is $484 a day and multiplied as concerned so those penalties should serve as a way to avoid. >> on the numbers i'm sorry on the penalties that were assessed the mention 4 hundred and 75 and 1 hundred and 24 thousand collected for the reminder of the money not collected can i explain a little bit sort of what is going on with those pieces of.
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>> to restate our largest penalty one and $90,000 that is really to the case this is gone through litigation aside from that case some were recently settled and assessed so not the time passed for 3 person to give us their check others cases that are outstanding in age by a cough of most a meeting with the delinquent revenue staff to refer those cases for their collection. >> then a final question i know there is more information you said you had made requests of hosting platforms on your slide 6 identifying the host for listing and multiple properties and requirement or websites can you talk about the past platforms we had the letter of them
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mentioning the airbnb in december of those tops the actual letter to memorize that with the discussion of airbnb and that letter went out last week, we need more time for the exact responses from the mroormdz so the letter went out to airbnb as mentioned and flip key and craigslist and home away slash b&b. >> so do you have an idea if they said no to any of those. >> if they say no to the proposals we'll condition conducting our business under the rules and ramp up enforcement and assist with the registration and again none of those asks are requirement for us to do our jobs those are things that any one of these for the aspect of our work
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make it go quicker but not necessary to conduct the register of law enforcement process. >> thank you please continue. >> thank you so i'll pick up just to round out our discussion we've down increased law enforcement activity in december and as discussed for future components of the hopes that people came in compliance and not backtrack i wanted to touch on a couple of website changes and working with the mayor's office of innovation the first thing under the umbrella 9 hosting this is required the administrative code host are required to post their
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activity at the beginning of last quarter or for the most part this represents the longest period they'll have to report on if they register in 2015 so one active of january 24th, 2016, those r were posted and d t helped us set up this is a chart of website quarterly rental reporting form relatively simple and easy to use i believe and hopefully, the hosts are finding that that way this gives us the public better usability and our staff a lot less to process in other words of data industry we have paper forms available for folks that are uncomfortable with the applications and other 09 reasons and pending the changes next we'll launch an online
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compliment form folks submit the complaints 55 e-mail or with our voicemail line an individual that that feel uncomfortable submitting information we replacement their personal privacy but to girlfriend people comfort we'll have an online form that is sort of just a blanket form without identifying the information of the activity they've seen and wish to file their containment a website we've post the enforcement and notice of violation and decided the paper to memorize the process of the enforcement cases and realtime registration and enforcement data wife been talking about today and also looking at the idea of creating a dynamic constantly updating
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heat map of what had a short-term rental registration is located just to be clear not offensive addresses we will desegregate that material just something that individuals can see where the clusters of short-term rentals hosts are registered are located kind of by neighborhoods so that's all i have nonetheless any further questions at this point. >> thank you very much thank you. >> just a few follows up in terms of enforcement i know you touched on this a little bit complaint driven verse pro-active talk about more objective with the enforcement there is a lot of it complaint driven and what's going on in their neighborhood and know the office has been engaging
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pro-active engagement. >> obviously containment driven the user those are properties we want to be responsive to the public and oftentimes those units make themselves apparent maintained registered but an operational issue likely having impacts to the daily lives of people but attempting to make a noise trash left out inappropriately so active cases are important as well as that allows us to really look at you know individuals taking many, many units off the market tattoo make sure we have a geographic spread of the cases we're not george easier that don't have k34r5i789 from the public but still we need to look
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at that if you're required of the city that is not nestle for short-term rentals you're expected to comply with the line if you're eligible. >> eaten in terms of registration process i appreciate the efforts with the website in general making it better early on and we're getting a lot of feedback if hoists this is too difficult to register i'm sure their challenges but i know there's been improvements i appreciate that do you think we are where we need to be in terms of making it as easy as possible for people to register and come into compliance with the law. >> i think there is always room for improvements even small integrals and we're in a much better place than the what some
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of the early problems were even before i came on board interest was long details with the schedules we've transitioned to an online scheduling tool to identify people identity and in terms of the proof of residentscy the certificate is worst the paper it is printed on but with the changing to the online schedule get the information from a number of places with our actually with our website changes for the reporting the teams did the testing not only on that form but good go dedicated feedback from our newly applicants so there is always incredible
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improvement and any public comment on on behalf of the folks that have questions but we want to hear ferry building how we can make the process smooth and realizing not everybody's favorite thing to talk with the government but people take the initiative and want to reward them with the process that is as easy as possible. >> finally in terms of the the interesting graphic you had in terms of the monthly registration applications that started off strong and growing and then sort of collapsed that looks like around the time that prop f went and qualify for the ballot i know i received a fair amount of feedback from people i'm hesitant to register when i don't know the rules or some people said hey, i've registered
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and not fulfill because people want to change the rules so it is good to see that really as of november it looks like applications are starting to accelerate are we seeing that continue into january. >> yes. so at this point or when i checked latest lecture one and 50 appointments for january already so in the slides are kind of filled on an ongoing basis that trendline is accelerating so the feedback that i was ref was somewhat around that issue there was with the people's exhibit 10 legislation and the tax collectors office around the collection of a number of things that driving it but an important thing to remember right around this time september are october or november we started to
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include the cases and publishing what our seem to be substantial penalty amounts and people read those substantial penalty amounts and understand there are consequences four not complying could be high in the form of penalties. >> that's an important point i think what is really going to help us to continue to grow the number of receipt for the priengs is consistentcy and enforcement this is not a temporary thing but permanent we'll enforce the law by consistency in terms of what the law is i'm hoping we get off the short-term rental roller-coaster and have a law that is in effect enforced and people know the rules and don't think the rules will change 3 months late
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because a change of supervisors or whatever the case but more and more people registered and having insurance and packing pga hotels taxed and getting everything or everything in in order i appreciate the presentation today. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. colleagues if no - human resources supervisor campos. >> a couple of follow-up questions mr. guy the last time we you came before the board committee i think the registration number and you can that was looking around 10 thousand units short-term rentals were probable about 94 percent registration none 64 percent were registered so you know 94 percent not compliance at the time was certainly not was a very good thing where are we in terms of
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the number of units that are being short-term rented that are registered. >> again, i've there are estimates to the number of short-term rentals that changes changing picture if month to month and i generally are a little bit carve we have over 13 hundred applications a number were rejected because their i think complete but to date nine hundred and 79 registered host and 69 applications pending review if we take into account the recreation rate of 15 percent i would expect us to be over one thousand in a month or so. >> again. >> i'm sorry to interrupt that represents the number was around 5 thousand short-term rentals at a given time and again those
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estimates i hear various go estimates but 5 thousand is 25 percent of the short-term rental hosts that are coming in to apply. >> i think the number we've heard is more around ten thousand and 5 thousand might be the right number for a airbnb alone and maybe half of that 10 thousand would seem more realistic if this is continue this course you're talking about under one thousand registered today, this is less than 90 percent so 90 percent or the 90 percent not rent-controlled unit so that is less than one and 10 h that are following the law but again not a huge improvement from what we were just a few months back
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so that's tail disappointing i was hoping the number would be much, much greater because this still more than 90 percent non-compliance but slide 6 explain in detail where i know you've said that the information you requested of the platforms was not necessary i want to know why you rhetoric and what is help about the pieces one of the things your requesting is for platforms to identify the hosts with listing for municipality property in san francisco, california you explain why this is useful to have. >> certainly so to an stent that is information we can able to obtain ourselves the key is listing i've talked about earlier listing specific
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addresses to specific listing generally speaking the hosting platforms and websites degait the address from a listing profile so you see pictures of the neighborhood you see the description of the neighborhood amenity but railway shots of neighborhood so short circuiting our ability to get from an individual we know p has multiple properties short circuiting our process to those listings can be of a help it shorptd that timeline without that as a acholic beverage tool. >> you do you know how how much you can shorn it. >> it depends on the case
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depending on how much information provided been a complainant how much information inherent in a listing it can be a relatively could have of hour process or more steven process so depending on the case it could, substantially short even our timeline but all to highlight the linkage between the address and listing deintegration, if you will, we get people to say understandably why not go on the listing sites and issue a notice of violation that is those are folks not registered be possible not eligible for the program but not enough information from the bad actors and the multiple properties and folks with year-round evacuates rentals. >> the other thing you request
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that website users host for the registration number can you explain why that it would be useful. >> so it is a requirement of our program to be 2, 3, 4 concession the last step to go in and yet our listing on the hosting platforms and have that registration number it is clear to everyone in the lions share your indeed registered and doing this legally so the hosting platforms right now they provide accessibility but not necessarily any requirement hesitant in the operations that requires that islamic's to have a registration number in order to have an actual listing on the site. >> your estimate i know you've talked about the number i was thinking about what's your estimate of the listing provide a registration number. >> if anyone actually
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registrations who gets issued a certificate that is the last step in the process right now we have 8 hundred and 79 registered hosts going out by the day as we process in november and december so all of those individuals i mean those are people coming out compliance and we instruct them to have the registration number so if we get a complaint about that address we see a neighbor with lost people with lunge we can respond quickly and say if you look at their listing they're a registered users. >> so follow-up without that registration number being provided and listed how long does it take to get that kind of complaint. >> we receive a complaint
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about an address and go into our database and immediately respond to that complainant that individual a registered not in violation but someway they're operating and appearing to steady the 90 day unhosted cap that's the limitation or building violations noisy parties or trash nuisance kind of things happening on the property we want to know and we'll respond to that person filing a complaint that notice is indeed recommend as a short-term rental. >> when do you expect to hear from the platforms on the request. >> that letter was issued on january 7th so ideally hear of them as much as possible within a month or something like that but it was recently issued. >> i'm on one hand if there is
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any represent if any platforms anyone that works for any of the platforms in the room? okay >> supervisor sorry to interrupt we made it clear in the letter this hearing was a public hearing as well. >> it is interesting normally when i've seen those kinds of hearing i've seen the people from the industry presents it is interesting not a single employee of a platform in this room that's that's interesting well, hopefully, that will change going forward because it is very hard to imagine a good working relationship two the city and this industry if not a single platform that does this kind of work still sent someone
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to this hearing fascinating. >> okay thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you very much mr. guy. okay. colleagues no additional questions or comments we'll move to public comment i have a number of public comment cards i'll call people ask people to please respect when and call public comment not to come up unless your name is called and in addition to anyone that because of physical divisibility disability come up early we'll accommodate your requests first cards (calling names) i apologize in advance for any miss pronunciation of name
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(calling names) >> good afternoon. supervisors jim lazarus san francisco chamber of commerce a very eye opening presentation and a positive one we were opposed to the ballot measure loose fuel as mentioned here today, this is a work in process has to be dealt with protectively and 53 we have room to grow this program and enforcement clearly the city if you look at recent stories in the length of time people taken unit off the market in violation of the planning code that existed in 2015 a lot to are lender and a lot of regulation that needs to be very old
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appropriate by your professional staff we appreciate the work that is done and looking forward look forward to the advancement of regulations that allows a leveled playing field for a part of our economy. >> thank you. next speaker. >> thank you. i'm keith i'm in my second year as an airbnb host a homeowner here in san francisco airbnb has been critical to my ability to afford to stay in san francisco i'm a registered host and would like to express my strong desire for the process to be styled so other host will not have undue barriers to their register thank you. >> next speaker mr. connor. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm tom o'connor president of the firefighters local 798 last
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year, we opposed the hers it was the wrong solution for the housing crisis now that the voters have spoken in support it is important to quote any hospitalized tilt that threatens short-term rentals from registering we support the short-term rentals and appreciate the office of short-term rentals on this issue hope you consider to style the process and bring host on behalf of board that helps everyone thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello, i'm matthew hotel a registered home sharer host it took any 6 months to get registered it was arduous through the e-mail and postal service if there is a reggie think that people with those
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kinds of things how arduous i'm glad to hear it is going battery but provide home sharing for anyone and it should be done immediately in terms of as soon as they put in an application they should be able to hoecht not waiting on a department the referring reserve all of fortune could shop us from having a home and the requests for a permit should remain in effect as long as the permit is in effect those easy kinds of applications make that better and in addition, we should not require the licenses to businesses to grow you can sell our business and the city limits our
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short-term rental to one permanent address. >> can't sell our home sharing business so it is not a business and you're not required for a roommate to register the business so there shouldn't be a discrimination against the short-term rental host in that regard a roommate situation is not going to work i remember supervisor your responsibility is current san franciscans not to future san franciscans that you want to entice to come here under the vail of other responsibilities but be here for us thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is a guy i'm a san francisco homeowner raised my to children in the city and now rent out my sons bedroom to help me cover the costs of
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sending my kids to college not cheap those days we're do not the income and renting out my sons bedroom i want to mention in my case i was a fair early applicant and took vantage of a night down the planning planning office we could come in and be seen and have our application processed i would like to mention one thing about airbnb and the other platforms we do rent our sons room in our home that counts as one listing but also, if we go away for a weekend or week we can rent out the entire week that is a separate listing so the residents exactly we're a resident in both cases and so this would be two different
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listing falls 20/20 categories on the website the number of 10 thousands i've heard is awfully inflated so many have allergies for the same property but may list the property on multiple website. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> hello supervisors my name is jerry i. live in ingleside district a member of about piper housing policy that is see in the november san francisco rotors and asian-americans in - they don't want extreme registrations on
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sullivan at an rentals the city should give their current laws a chance to work more san franciscans will registration from the city we put the politics to rest home sharing is the live line for many every shouldn't be making it harder for harking families to stay in the city they love i'm a renter i would like to have at freedom to share my home to legally- knowing to make it harder for us
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to stay in the city thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> hi my name is alfonso i appreciate the presentation and the issues you guys have brought this an important issue i've bang complaining to the city on my neighbor jennifer that used her property as a short-term rental illegally through this process 10 years i mean two years she's been renting her property illegally for 10 years i recorded to the city and county of san francisco tax collectors and record her to the irs i recorded her to other agencies today, i met up with inspector carlal at the city attorney's office to make my report i've been reporting on
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this issue it doesn't seem like any transaction by way of enforcement she's taken up 3 units for her short-term rental so i'd like to see more enforcement and i'd like to see more activity for people that are dissolution this illegally i support businesses if poem want to do rent-controlled units follow the law in this case the person got introduce the system and that bothered we great deal i'm pursuing this thank you. >> good afternoon i'm a short-term rental host rental i enjoy being a host sharing my home in any city with my guests when i reggie found
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the process difficult and the information was not consistent the people were - i was fluted and stopped the process later on with the help of other host i was able to finish i'm here to urge you to improve it by making this process easier and the information consistent with the paperwork and easy to understand thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> my name is juliann good afternoon. i want had to say that my husband and i who are sentencing with high medical expenses we do home sharing we share one room in a half bathroom house so we have had people from all over the world having said that, and delighted when we started to
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register we remember amongst the first one in february the first week in february and there was no department that anyone knew where the planning department on mission street we we were told that office was not open and found a gentleman on the main floor walk through and found out the office was open two days later please simplify the process we're proud to you remember register or register and plan the communication with the officers easy but beg you to please simplify the process and also to keep the privacy of the host in our case and my case i've been attacked a random attack of violations and incentive sensitive to give my you information to the public thank you very much. >> i want to call the next round
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(calling names). >> hi my name is esther i'm been host for two years and outer sunset short-term rental for me as been vital to pay medical bills of my husband and property tax i encourage the city hall to
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work as much on our part for all the host people and making the process easier i registration in april i cannot believe that after twice short-term rental law being approved by the supervisors being the benefited i see them still have to defend any right to rent my room a climate it didn't encourage people to go and register it seems like the rule is not clear their consistence interest is not safety on what is going to happen in the future if still about the short-term rental so i'm asking you to make a
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decision move forward collect the taxed and invest in in building affordable housing and does not - thank you very much supervisors in supporting short-term rentals it helped a lot of residents currently in san francisco where supervisors should focus thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> good afternoon, everyone my name is lawrence gordon i reside in the sunny side part of san francisco in district 7 my husband and i are registered short-term rental home sharing of our spare bedroom on two years we're active in the home sharing community and vigorously campaign for the dispute of
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proposition 18 that passed almost one year until the legislation went into effect it is a disturbing fact there are less than a thousand registered short-term rentals of the thousands of listing on multiple rental platforms granted i believe that easier a gentleman mentioned that you really can equate the number of registers with the number of listings there could be multiple listing for one registered dwelling dwell but i'm kind of until a little bit in shock that the nukes have not yielded condone up significantly since the legislation went into effect in february i do agree to it the registration process can benefit from streamlining but my feeling is that really enough
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with that said, it is my belief that a purely driven complaint process needs this partnership of a hosting platform to be successful to me the allergies short-term rentals that don't have a registration number put the controls in place without the voold registration numbers and urge that the san francisco board of supervisors support that the requirement is that all platforms do not list short-term rentals unregistered thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, everyone i'm gabriella i'm here with the hispanic chamber of commerce in san francisco we want to tell you that latinos in san francisco we don't want more riejz on short-term rentals we are business owners we want to stay in san francisco and create more jobs if we stay in san francisco we can pay praifshgdz
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we wouldn't be able to stay in business we want to tell you no more restriction and help us stay in the beautiful city we love if you put more restrictions for us we won't be able to stay you know just having short-term rentals help us to pay our property tax on our mortgages a win-win situation for everyone thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> my name is peter i represent the home sharing democratic club and home sharing of san francisco a community support group for the community over 2 thousand 200 members i'd like to emphasis two plugs today, the first is something that supervisor wiener mentioned this morning that's that when talking about the rate of registration we need to consider all the reasons and causes of why the registration rate is what it is during you leading up
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to the elections and at controversial over prop f a large hosts stayed away from the registration process wherever the officials say to the press that home sharing is responsible for the housing crisis that they're nothing but the legal hotels all over the city as the bad actors of examples in the inspire community the hosts that want to do the right thing will registration we know during we - the appointment can be made for registration process virtually the next day during the whole defeat after the election the rate was a month or two months we knew a huge drop off in the registration rates during the time the hosts are disparjd and after the election there was a
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huge surge in the process to we talk about where a host are not registering as a large number the second point is i want to acknowledge the great work the s t r and director guy making the process for styled we believe that he said a lot more, be done and home sharing want to work with guys office to make sure that we can give him the support and also the finally from the yours of how the process can be made more user friendly one example we would like to see the documents needed for the interview being able to be september to the office and vetted electronically for people to turn up and interesting to find that the documents don't fit what's required
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a lot of hosts take time off of work to find out that one, the documents is not strictly complies one easy way to the system can be styled thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> supervisor campos. >> ca a quick clarifying .2200 members. >> that's correct over 2 thousand 200 members. >> next speaker >> hi, i'm michael clinic a short-term rental residential host no bernal height i wanted to make the point i've collaborated with peter quan as a volunteer on my own time not paid by anyone to help fellow hosts registration apply and registration and toil developed
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a thirty page power point presentation to help us registration and 3 workshops and two points tremendous continuing interest in the host community in registering our loose workshop in december there were over one attendees and but the second point is that the application process even though it has improved from kevin allergy it can continue to improve and the host are confused by the application process for instance, one confusing point that hosts don't understand a densities e difference between the tax verse our registration obligation to the planning department and then the continuing volume of hosts whether rirj
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registering will make them vulnerability to they're past activity and vulnerable to the procurement of their activity should the law change the final thing i want to add i know there will continue to be you know a big question the current law works but the current pipeline of backlogs we won't know in the current law is working thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello my name is deborah i'm not a bad apple a good apple maybe a granny insight good apple i pied my taxed and come applied and spent my career in what is continuous business process improvements and system
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analysis and now changed management the cardinal rules of improving a business is map the current process i'm happy to see that director guy has started that secondly, map the ideal process and collect data on the business steps map the changes and continue to collect the data i'm encouraging the city not to make any further changes until you've collected qualified data we've seen a huge, huge example of the problem with that raw u right now whether supervisor campos talks about 10 thousand homes and the director talks about 5 thousand let's collect qualified data thank you for your time (clapping.) thank you. next speaker. >> my name is ashley i've
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lived in san francisco for 9 years and a short-term rental hosted for the hoof i'm going to echo the last speakers and apply to the short-term rental office short-term rentals has lout me to stay in san francisco not have 3 jobs and the flexibility in my. >> (repeated.) >> the constitution of the united states. thank you to the community members that helped to regulate i appreciate the presentation today the updates that issues and the other issues and small responses i registered last year and, yes there was improvement it was confusing and overly complicated give the validity of appoints for a working person is tough to take time off and easy for appointment in the evening when working people can attend i ask the city to make it the more
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streamlined and easy the the easy hosts will registration thank you for your intentional support for san franciscans like me. >> thank you. next speaker. >> i'm a registered host in san francisco and part a of a founding member of the home sharing group we want a trade association to be in appliance and responsible host we'll do workshops and things like that to help i want to point out especially for supervisor campos that many of us have more than one listing and many of us have more than one platform i list my whole house and list the bedroom downstairs the rb o published on line and now their owned by other company they publish and
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while we have 7 or 8 hundred and 79 host recognized rent-controlled unit i urge you to track the number of hosting that will give you on a accurate count and another thing the process the short-term rental office is doing a good job to make it easier but the tax office needs to be included the ability to get a business license and the reporting requirement i have to pay takes on a monthly basis i hope i'm doing it correctly interpreting but they need to make the process easier and making sure that people are educated how to fill out thaurdz forms correctly and corporation amongst multiplied cities to make that implementation more effective
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i think the enforcement can use more imagination and look at a blanket subpoena for others that have not yielded registration number and canceling them without occurring fees a sting operation a lot of creative things and suggest a task force be created that involves a lot of the shareholders and the home sharing will be happy to participate and how enforcement - >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi my name is joe i live in san francisco for 40 years i've been commuting before and after for thirty years to south bay and had a house in san francisco i want to join another platform
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but found out it is difficult so you have to report every month so i suggest you guys can simplify the process so we can quarterly report so xhovn for another platform thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon supervisor campos and farrell thank you for your time and giving me the chance i appreciate your effort trying to make the city affordable for all citizens and the taxpayers i'm 40 years residents of san francisco 15 years residents of lower knob hill and property owner i have been i never thought i'd be happy to say that i took early
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retirement but i have to take care of my elderly mother and rent a bedroom from central valley to san francisco general i'm unable to have a roommate so airbnb has i happen to use airbnb platform that allowed me to stay in the city take care of my mother and property tax and so forth i'm a registered herera the process i went through was somehow cumbersome but basically cumbersome because a thought previous folks mentions two-step process going to the take office and the short-term rental office leave people don't know that i was able to benefit from the hosting committee and my friend
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to allow me to know what you do but it required two days of work people need to take time off of work that was not the case with me i had the luxurious of time and other people seven hundred there is listing information we can have so if there are tsf time i personally can volunteer and other people that da can definitely assist thank you. >> for the next speaker i'll call the remaining cards i have (calling names) actually there are more here
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sorry. >> (calling names). >> good afternoon. supervisors my name is linda i'm a 46 residents of san francisco and i securely live in the mission terrace neighborhood of district 11 i have just begun the process to become a registered home share i went online and learned how the rest of the world is viewing this i found the improvements have really, really improved the process i have now be able online to sign up for my business license i've also be able to sit down an appointment for january 22nd but i could have had an earlier appointment it sounds like a lot of the things wrong in the past cumbersome are being and the and
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i'm very anxious this could happen within the next few weeks and months to set up a profile both my husband and i will travel in the spring i've been involved with the home sharer movement primarily my husband and i are nearing retirement angle and we're going to be living on a fixed income and as such we purposed the home 7 years ago we have a large mortgage and a lot of property tax we've fall both a category that we can't afford necessarily to do the things for our family and be out of town a grateful without income for this prompt my parents were in their 90s and 15 children and grandchildren they can't come to us that allows us if we do home sharing
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i've been pro-active i feel an important way for zionist san franciscans to stay in the homes and have the flexibility they need to create the kind of rental environmentalist that serves them their families and hosts thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi my name is cecilia i want to give a lot of kudos doing the enforcement i'm a registered home sharer i use airbnb because airbnb pays the taxed for me so it is very convenient it took 4 months for me to get my permit i think that was could be improved there was no way to track why to take so long during the process i suggest that that process be improved as well
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but what i'm here to say i know enforcement will only work when the offender hurts their pocketbook you have to cbo after the offender by finding them otherwise they'll move around the mroormdz and try to get away with different kinds of listing under different names so i'll suggest that the office of enforcement do a booking in the future and give the address and phone call and cancel that booking and find the offender for even listing the booking without a permit so that's my suggestion to get - compliance and i don't think that the mroormdz are going to
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comply either i think the only way to get to get people to comply is get to the offender and find them. >> >> next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm lisa i'm in the mission and i'm a registered host in fact i have certificate number one it was a bit challenging but i did it i think the biggest problem was the questions on the forms didn't fit the short-term rental hosting situation anyway, i'm not going to waste a lot of time talking about the same thing people are brought up i agree that is a little bit disappoint that roughly 8 hundred nine hundred people only have registered but again, i share the suggestion that the process being made easier and
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anymore streamlined and so forth it would be nice actually, if those that are not registered would be listed that's the ideal situation for the sure how that comes about i want to mention i recently got filing requests from the short-term rental department requesting everyone, welcome. not names but check in and check out dates from february 1st when the ordinance went into effect until the ended of december and from now on quarterly that was a bit of a process but quarterly i would request that you identify specific dates as to when the filings need to be made will we get a permit an e-mail it is these kinds of things that will
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be helpful i'll encourage continuing to streamline the process and do as much enforcement as possible thanks. >> next speaker >> good afternoon. my name is a ray my wife and i are compliant rent-controlled unit host in san francisco owned our own businesses in the past using corporate environment the platform of the businesses we're familiar with the registration and the documentation process to so the registration process actually works very well so for us however, many hosts does not have this experience or this expertise and they can fine this kind of intimidating and daunting we're volunteered both with the planning department, dennis richard and offered airbnb registration workshops to
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employ our free services we're still willing to join a task force airbnb has been involved and cooperative and supportive but supervisor campos where are the rest of the platforms why are they not on the official qualify treasurer's office website how many of their host are registered so i support supervisor campos in his effort to get the other platforms equally as involved with airbnb has we use all the sites our property is listed on all the sites and we had volunteered to those other sites to help them with this process and they told us they were not interested that was our purview our responsibility no summary we need to build a fire and get
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them to step up to the plate we have a new law let's let it work maybe not the law at issue but the registration process i think i'm encouraged what we heard today and the process being made if any way we can help we'll be glad to do so thank you for your time. >> next speaker >> i'm keith freed man a member of the democratic club a professor another city college and i want to take my time to correct some of the numbers i understand the numbers are important to all the supervisors specifically mr. campos you've heard from a lot of the host those numbers are probable wrong many people are 2 or more listing oftentimes you'll have a listing for what the hosted is the spare room or sofa or one of
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my friends a separate i'll leave it at that for you his kids bunk bed when you look at the 10 thousand for example that might recommend 25 hundred units even though this is 10 thousand individualizing aggregate other numbers you've heard the home sharer membership is 2200 that's the membership of a home sharer organization the democratic club as a chartered democratic club is much, much smaller the number of the registrations of those host are nearing 100 percent i want to make sure that people are quoting numbers to the press their quoting accurate numbers and as far as registration my number is 2155 e-mail two may
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dates to type in and again everyone is using the correct numbers understanding the real scope of the problem helps people understand the better solutions to have thank you. >> next speaker >> jennifer the san francisco tenants union we have 6 thousand members so i'm here to remind you why enforcement happens and also to speak for tenants that are not recommended by the home sharers club in a city of 64 percent tenants last summary the tenant union was approached approached and the owner had two units on aaron illegally year-round the owner is a member of the home sharer club not registered and the tenants can't turn in the
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landlord because of retaliation they wrote we found keys to our building on the sidewalk and the car gate was open we've stayed in hospitals they don't feel safe that's what you're home feels like i'd like to ask the decision maker from the strangers had keys to the building and left them on the situation and nothing you can do about it the tenants have hung on but pressure from the landlord to leave i suspect the tenants will be forced out and their recourse to talk about the airbnb activity in a wrongful eviction and make it for contemplation. >> lost their homes if proactive enforcement if unregistered hosts were not allot to profit on the website those attendants would in the 19
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be in jeopardy so the - i also want to talk about last july the ordinance was all the time to take out nonprofits from the right of action even though housing groups had had it several the completed enforcement case that have been xrukd by the office of short-term rentals came up through evidence - >> hello supervisors i'm tony represent the senior sdrablth action the numbers are disturbing in terms of short-term rentals are out there and how many have been sound-proofed and gone through the registration process we've known we've lost in many neighborhoods lost many rental units and the people we represent the seniors and people with disabilities have been
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3r0u67b8d effected by this this short-term rental platform business model that really has done much to hurt housing stabilization in terms of what we see on the ground in our organization it shows i believe the numbers from what i'd be able to gather one in 10 are actually registered is quite disturb and shows that much has to be done in terms of enforcing it seems to me that the platform of the platforms is to not be regulated and get it - away as much of non-regulation as possible in the current compliment in the city it is totally unacceptable thank you. >> next speaker
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>> teacher of the year is a north beach tenants committee i want to say that i do not understand why these o these platforms are not held accountable and be more that would be helpful of helpful to the home sharer that showed up they have registered those are the ones that we have always supported but i and many of the people that i work with would not support the next door neighbors that are the realtors that continue to use a four unit building for short-term rentals and the man next door to him that's been doing short-term rentals for 15 years still continues to do that although he's been recorded in addition to this the reality none of those examples none of
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these men will registration because not being their primary home one the realtor has another 6 unit building same thing s t r it is really upsetting this is indeed changing the neighborhood and if those platforms are continuing to be held unaccountable for what they are doing it means that this will continue neighborhoods will be destroyed because it is not the regular guy that is out there thank you. >> next speaker >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm roger wanting of the west of twin peaks council representing 20 hoa's in san francisco recently our designate told me about two houses in forest hill
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was was a party house every friday night cops were called one is a youth hospital he will i submit that this is not the kickoff enforcement we need we need vigorous enforcement of the current law to prevent those kinds of abuses i think the mroormdz and the city should work with my organization and with the other hoa's in enforcement mechanisms and in crafting possible an amendment to the current legislation for example, in the yes examiner one possibility a would be to require prove that the homeowners associations do violate any of the homeowner association i think this is a step in the right direction to preserve the character of
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western san francisco and rps urge you to consider those amendments along those lines thank you. >> hello my name is we happened i've lived in san francisco for 26 years i've been a home share for two years and hosted and host in the summaries and on school holiday registration because i've been a business owner for 10 years was pretty simple and easy but i was there at the beginning but last year people were still afraid to register and prop f people thought i'll not do this but last year is kind of a wash i think that people once they know they can count open our government to see this is the law this is wasn't you no idea to do and register i think they'll do the people are afraid
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those that have been - haven't register there be penalize they're on the fence about registering one suggestion to help to register do more evening onsite group registration more of that in the evening and give those people a grazed period if you don't registration by you know february or march or whatever it is we're going to inflict fines but people that are afraid to because they've been doing it without remedying give them a grace period and suggest partnering with the home sharers they're a wealth of information and help you to streamline this whole process i survive in this city with any airbnb income i'm so grateful we have the law to continue to do
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it and that i can stay in the city that i've been in and love for 26 years thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi i'm available to answer any questions you may have is emily the previous speaker took away everything i wanted to say so i'll have to do something else one of the problems i've seen is that we should not gage who the law has worked from the time it was instituted last february basically, it as we've made huge process the registration process has become i think financially much easier i my particular retention was held up because because of a -
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was not aware of was that i had made i was doing short-term rentals last year for more than 90 days i therefore must have evicted someone that is my home it was just totally serious that obviously the public is not informed enough they thought if i've done it for more than 90 days i was breaking the law and thank you very much for working on this the uncertainty and the confusion last year were awful but we've made huge process thank you. >> next speaker >> my name is jennifer and i'm
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a hoot on airbnb i only use that platform i have a 3 bedroom beautiful condo in the marina and rent 2 bedrooms i think this has been a fanatic experience all the way i've met the most wonderful people and it changed my life and helped to pay my mortgage my huge takes that has increased and i on the registration process has been difficult i registered last april and paid my dues it has been a process and still say, i go to the tax office they send me to the planning department and you have to go to other office they're closed or at lunch anyway, i'm registered the forms are more difficult and ask too much questions and the
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process would be much easier if someone could be there and there and help you to the process not more than an hour but instead of your spent here and there i don't want my name to be out there if i'm paying all my taxes i'm registered and i am known by the government i think that's all you need to do i don't think my neighbors should know that whatever anyway, i keep is quiet and respect those people's privacy and other people have receptionist mine too thank you very much. >> thank you very much i have a few more cards (calling names) those are all the cards i have
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so if anyone want to speak please line up come on up and speak. >> hi there i pay my taxes airbnb days and analysisic report on the ann that company reports 9 had and 85 over airbnb 5 thousand were occupied at some point during that most by airbnb own numbers they collected $85 million in revenue last year and there's will one million dollars in revenue collected in illegal and unregistered short-term rentals listing that's 4 hundred and 5 thousand dollars in pencils one half of one percent of illegal revenues collected since february of last year in this city now it is 90 percent of the drivers on the road didn't have
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driver's license you think you'll have a problem or subscribe to the idea grouping in this city doss a shortage of housing you have a categorized kiss but this in some neighborhoods 25 percent of all available listings at any time are short-term rentals that is a crisis and this modesty airbnb and home away and now trip advisors are making fools of this board you've heard over and over from this planning department staff how to make the law enforceable and requires us - one thing i've not heard about registration one big piece but the board last year put the planning department in an impossible position of patrolling when people sleep in their own homes to enforce this
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law i spoke out it was unworkable and so did the planning department and i'd like to hear albeit how their endorsing that law you passed last year. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. supervisors testing wellborn with the d 5 action super bowl is coming up how is the office of short-term rentals going after listing that people are putting up to collect some 20 to thirty thousand short-term rentals so then in the next come up of weeks i attended the hearings also for 40 pollutant street the 3 units that have been rented out for 23 years there are were numerous complaints she was never found and never fined anything and now she's been for another
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year without being fined anything you need to look at how you can go about going after people that are currently in violation from 12 hundred or 1400s members of the home sharers club are in violation how about in collect on the people who for 23 years or more were doing short-term rentals that were illegal thirty days e.r. less in san francisco i've heard we have a budget problem well, here's one of the source of money yes. you might do a paternal amnesty as you use a short-term rental airbnb new york did it the city attorney has told the office of short-term rentals dodo any feinstein until your completed the process how soon whether the law is enforced in san francisco
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fine them now don't wait for enforcement go over the people now that are breaking the law and ask people check up on people to continue to comply thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi good afternoon. i'm barbara a resident in noah valley i'm a home sharer i started with i lost any job and started back to school and hosting has been basically my lifeline of keeping me afloat awhile i go back to school i'm a legally registered host i primary do it when i'm mr. there i take out the garbage and have rules how guests should behave i've learned a complaint is filed against me but i have a
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feeling i know who it was filed in mid-accountant october in the run up of the property f a neighbor made it cleavers hostile to home sharing without going into the details any request for the supervisors to be mindful the compliment it has created with the amendments and changes to the what are you people shouldn't feel something to gain by spying on neighbors and filing spurus complaints thank you. >> nancy pelosi. >> yes. handsome i'm david a proud home sharer and a member of the democratic club and live in richmond that helps me to stay in the city sharing my home with two kids and people from around the world visit them and
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grandparent can have a plays place to live a lot of talk around the current people are sharing their home and prop f failed i want to make a suggestion for new registrants i think that is unreasonable for people to jump to the hoops if they've not tried home sharing it is important to give people a grace period 15 e.r. thirty days without a registered permit if they like it go though the motions of being registered they need to abide by the laws in terms of a fire extinguisher but it makes sense to let people to see the benefits and not carried they're doing to illegally please consider a grace period in place.
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>> thank you very much. is there any additional public comment on item number 2? seeing none, public comment is closed >> i want to thank first of all, mr. guy as the office of short-term rentals for the presentation today and for the work you done over the loose nearly a year to get the office up and returning and increase the enforcement a lot of work still to do but we're making process and as i said at the outset important to give the law a chance to work if it didn't work we have the option of making changes but it is still quite early in terms of not even a year after the effect of the original law and about 6 months since we've made additional changes and created the office
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of the short-term rentals and increased the if it please the court for enforcement so this is very you feel information both for us and for members of the public and i look forward to continuing those quarterly hearings and so i ask for supervisor campos speak or anyone else that want to i'll entertain a motion to i'd like to entertain a motion to the call of the chair. >> thank you, mr. chair i want to say that you know the more you learn about what the process of short-term rentals is doing are not doing the more it is equivalent that the exist law is not working and enforcement is certainly not meeting even basic standards of acceptable by airbnb's own numbers you're talking about more 5 thousand listing they're half of the industry and more than 10 thousand listing
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it ever this office of short-term rentals was created months ago you still have less than 10 percent of the listing where the units are repgd so more than 90 percent of non-compliance from the d barbecue came to the agency and said we are very proud of work more than 90 messenger percent of the drivers in the state of california have no licenses i don't think it would give them a passing grade and even if you take their own presentation they were created the office of short-term rentals were created months ago and it just a few days ago they sent a letter to the platforms asking for the information it would be useful for them to enforce so how many months does that take mr. guy and his staff to
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inventing send out a letter i want to note earlier today, i asked for any employee of any platform in the room and there was an employee from ann that was in the room and as and was making the announcement stepped out of the room i actually shred if 33 she worked for ann and asked if emphasis e she was in the room for a representative for a platform she said, yes if that's the way that airbnb or any platform approaches this i'm motivational of hopeful we'll get a meaningful process this is not something where employees of a platform should be running away from this issue to the temporary you try to doing everything we can to help the city let's see if they respond to this request and i'll he said this is specifically
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addressed to the home sharers of san francisco according to the office of short-term rentals 8 hundred and 79 registrations 8 hundred and 79 rent-controlled unit hosts overseeing home sharers of san francisco bans what period of time quan indicated those stated they are more than 2 thousand members 2 thousand 200 members they said now it or if this organization is really condominium to helping the city comply how about a very novel idea all members of the public members to register if you actually had every one of those 2 thousand 200 members our boosting will be rerjdz with the city the number of registrations that the city has almost 3 times where we are today so have
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kreblth when you come and boast about our membership make sure that every one of our members is following the modere than 60 percent of the members members is breaking the law it is hard to have credibility when you have that kind of record. >> thank you supervisor campos i will say we did we always have a standing niefths for the platforms to be here and participate in the hearings we can't force them to come but standing invitation i don't know who ann employee was i don't think it was helpful to embrace an employee of a home sharing
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platform maybe a junior person or someone watching and come to the microphone they're not authorized to do so but we open up the platform so with that, i'm i'd like to entertain a motion to continue item 2 to the call of the chair we'll take that without objection. that will be the order thank you. >> can i have a minute to a respond. >> the item is over but thank you very much okay madam clerk item 3. >> item 3 for the erupted neighborhood impacts and the transportation issues and time impacts and safety plans for the associated with super bowl 50 including any market street enclosures around muni overhead worries. >> supervisor kim is along with supervisor cohen is the author so supervisor kim.
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>> thank you this is a tuitions of a hearing that supervisor cohen and i called in december to present the cost of the super bowl efforts that will take place later this month and gives us an opportunity for the host committee to present to the board of supervisors for the first time and give details of this event to members of the public and members of this board. >> first of all, i should emphasis i think i speak for the entire board we are existed that san francisco is hosting super bowl 50 and existed for the benefits to many of the small businesses our hotels and tourist industry and the football fans in the bay area we know that san francisco, california throw amazing parties that is why is many exists want to host but make sure that our residents that live here are
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workers that work here continue to go about their day and evenings as they would in a timely fashion understanding a major event in san francisco and some inconveniences we can do this safely and as much as possible accommodate their needs dollar a number of issues that came up from the community stand point i will ask today but today's hearing it get a followup presentation from sfmta and sfpd to talk about the cost of the events i know this has been an ongoing discussion between the board of supervisors and the mayors certainly in the media and in the public we were disappointed that we were not able to get the numbers last month given the event is quickly approaching in the next couple of weeks i think as it sustains
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a longer-term because of events in san francisco what it means to create a uniform standard whether nonprofits organizations for events like pride parade and data breakers and other abates what's the costs that get - one is picked up by the city we'll hear more about the additional muni and the over time with the sfpd a permit that maybe need to be pulled and deal with events in san francisco i know our hearing was longer than expected i'll cut my comments to hear from the department and members of the public i know we have a number of
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department here today i believe we have first on the rosters sfpd and i believe captain tim here is presenting on behalf of sfpd thank you very much for being here. >> thank you. >> before i go i wanted to make a few comments and thank you, supervisor kim for reconvening this hearing for information and thank you to the department that have done a bunch of work so i first of all, i share supervisor kim's excitement we are hosting the super bowl in the bay area we know that from the experience of other cities hosting the super bowl is a big deal when the super bowl comes to town in terms of the economic impact and in terms of the implosion of tax revenues and the jobs that are created included any union jobs
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we see it already in terms of of hotels and our restaurants and small businesses will be doing extremely well the reason is because the super bowl is coming to the bay area we're doing major events in the form of the super bowl village here in san francisco this that is bringing people into the city we're patrons our folks and generating the tax revenue not like other events speculation about optimism bringing in revenue we know first page tangible proven experience it does spike tax revenue and helps local businesses and will do here first of all, thank the small business host committee that is not the nfl not corporations
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which is a nonprofit group of people that will going around raising something like that $50 million in private money to fund the office space super bowl village and give grants to nonprofits in san francisco and other parts of bay area in terms of cost recovery this is a legitimate conversation to have a lot of views on all sides this is fib i'm glad we're having a public conversation about this i think in having this conversation it is incredibly important that we provide the public is accurate information and not in any way mislead the public in terms of what this is and isn't we've heard statements in the press i know that supervisor kim and i had a conversation the super bowl village is not a private corporate pirate 100 percent
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open to the public this is being fund by the host committee through the money that it is raised i think this is important we talk about cost recovery we can always have a conversation about large events in san francisco whether the super bowl or pride or new year's or data breakers whether or not nonprofit or otherwise major events about cost recovery but it is not the kinds that the city typically recovers all of the costs into effect what you look at major outdoor events inform to if so rare that the city recovers all its costs the pride parade or other events they pay for security but they don't pay for the full cost of a large event in terms of the need of the police or muni or what
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have you there's a suggestion that the super bowl it getting some sort of or the host committee is getting a special treatment it is different at pride or other events are paying what the costs by the host committee is left off the hook that those not accurate what is happening not consistent with the way the city approaches many, many large events that come to the city that are sometimes disruptive because for traffic or whatever but that have huge benefits for the city economically in terms of the culture so let's have the conversation about costs whether there should be cost recovery and i think it is incredibly important we be accurate and precisely and the fact we're putting out to the public as we have this conversation supervisor kim. >> thank you and i should clarify i brought up the parade
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like chinese new year and pride i agree with supervisor wiener we get the best estimates but the city supplements on top of that the super bowl host committee is not pagan any of the fees from pd are other services we're treating the host committee different from the nonprofit abatentities hiring w are we treating certain entities different i heard it is unfair they're charged for maybe 50 or 80 percent of cost recovery we all acknowledge that number one, the entities pay 100 percent and the super bowl committee raised $50 million is not pagan for any of the cost recovery fees on behalf of the city that is more
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of the question if we're going to treat one entity - question should treat all the entities never mind of how we make sure that is a process for cost recovery here in san francisco i think we can differentiate even if it is a nonprofit intermediate through super bowl 50 there's a difference 24/7 pride and the new year's a market party for a corporation is a nonprofit organization. >> supervisor. >> thank you, mr. chair i want to join supervisor wiener in
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congratulating the host committee in raising $50 million throughout the bower is no small tax in excess of $12 million to local nonprofits is a heroic effort i'm looking forward to this hearing phil in on land use committee as someone that fought to have the super bowl come to san francisco i'm personally existed have the game not only in the bay area but all in san francisco having traveled to a few super bowls over the past decades but an important point more than anything san francisco has be lshtd a sports town whether rotating for the 49ers i
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can't tell you decades griping watching the 49ers watching them play and the sense of community that brought our city together when we won the super bowls when the city honked their horns we don't see that very much in san francisco and over the past foe years the giants have catered us to championships and the worries and as we welcome the warriors to our town in the next few years to me someone that didn't think san francisco is a sports on is from a different planet it brings our city together and especially politically we need things that bring our city together across age and gender and any fascination affiliation
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i want to thank everyone from the host committee from the departments and sfpd for all the work getting ready and the rest i'll save my comments for later. >> next. >> good afternoon if it's okay. i'll use this please approach the podium advised the ringing of and use of cell phones and other electronic devices are prohibited. is very excited to have this event by the public safety services that are needed and we were asked to provide the serves as we expect large crowds and that raise public safety concerns some other events that supervisors mentioned pride and chinese new year parade we look at those for the staffing model and the crowd estimates so for example, i look at super bowl
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city the same footprint as new year's eave so our fiscal division worked on a cost estimate we providing service for public safety for this for the market street and other event is about the one within and one $.5 million over and over those are the 2014 world series the 2015 fleet week and pride parade we're confident we'll be able to provide those services within the current budget additionally we've been asked to provide police services for private entities throwing parties identify been working with the office i don't want to put out pubically where a lot of those events are but one and $6,000 services signed up by the
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private vendors one venue throwing 3 negligence and a large concert in the city and there was some question raised previously about whether the deposits were made and what not 4 of those events are venues where we have exist we ask for a 50 percent deposit and those vendors we've asked for the 50 percent deposit they've agreed we expect that to come shortly and remaining will be something that is built monthly let's see one question i've been asked how long about it take to collect the 10 b we have to determine the hours that generates an annoys we expect the 10 b office to collect all the fees by the
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end of march and he additionally, there are. >> captain a i'm sorry, i heard you wanted to answer the question about weather the question was the deposit was made. >> as of friday we've agreed to provide the deposit we're getting contact from people that are ready to host the venue those amendments are coming in last friday we sat down with the motors that will be doing an event and a quote so we're expecting the deposits before the event. >> this is normally 15 percent. >> 50. >> 50 i miss heard you 50. >> some of the events were places we have events relaying and higher the 10 b and at the point a monthly annoys. >> thank you.
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>> as we get more activities we'll increase that. >> do you have an estimates store the 10 b program operate from the $1.5 million the cost of city and the number as far as people that signed up for the 10 b-1 and $6,000 and roughly ball park 4 three to $49,000 there's aned minute charge. >> so the city will put in one million dollars to 1.5 and stewardship services and the super bowl 50 committee will be paying one and $6,000. >> it's not the super bowl host but other entities that are hosting events that requested the services. >> i see so the super bowl
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host committee is not pagan for additional beat officers for the program throughout the week. >> not at this time. >> thank you very much. >> any questions. >> supervisor farrell. >> thank you, mr. chair just a quick question i'd like to ask this for all the departments as someone that chaired the budget committee we've talked about this you mentioned having it throughout your exist budget so it is true to say this was approved last year amazing through the board of supervisors the budget is included the budget at super bowl. >> many large events we anticipate o events and included that in the request and approved by the board. >> is there a - as i mentioned we have large events in san francisco some are completely
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free to the public some have requested donations to enter and some data breaker are you with the large outdoor events where the police department explosives 100 percent of cost recovery to focus the law enforcement resources. >> as far as the free and open to the public no i believe data breakers comes close they charge to race that one is closed but the others new year's eave and pride and they hire 10 officers. >> they do. >> i'm going to speculate not only in the police department but speculate there are quite a few police officer service calls apple data breakers. >> you would be correct, sir. >> and in terms of i'm talking
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about broader police service not specifically providing security inside the event but police services connected does data breakers pay the police department for all its cost. >> not for those but calls into the night after the event is over the parties continue other there are alcohol related issued after those and welling we take care of the services. >> thank you very much. >> mr. chair just to be clear about the events the super bowl is wrapped up in one umbrella the game is happening in santa clara we're talking about a few things one a completely free open to the public super bowl city that the host has to pay for 100 percent and we're talking about the splpd costs on top of that the splpd may incur
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and talking about the nfl in the moscone center a paid ticketed event i believe that is smaller disclose or not disclose volume $20 to the public but the 10 b things you're talking about different parties at different local based companies a group of buds greeting together and hire 10 officers. >> they'll host a dinner and ask the police officer for a promoter having a venue concerns of public safety and they will contact they've contact us for some of the sequesters and asked to have them staff the officers to pay the 10 b. >> it is important to distinguish some people said this is a private events for corporations percentage kind of flees the city for police costs
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the police co-defendants or costs whoever absorb are 100 percent free for 100 percent paid for by the host and the private entities are paying for 10 b officers. >> that's correct. >> thanks. >> supervisor kim. >> just one more question again, i'm glad those questions are raised again, we want to at least for me make sure that we're being consisting consist do you know how much we charge an event like data breakers or chinese new year. >> we don't charge i believe we. >> they don't do any 10 b officers. >> cultural fended within the operational events. >> they don't do any additional 10 b. >> i don't know of any myself. >> okay. >> you don't have of any are