tv Small Business Commission 2816 SFGTV February 9, 2016 6:00am-8:01am PST
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planner and move forward with the conditional use authorization we are complying with the inclusionary housing with 12 percent bmr's on site we're currently working with the city attorney on the costa-hawkins all the time that allows us hocking to continue my a attorneys are here poor as jeff alluded we were going to provide 25 or 15 cars but after a series of meetings with planning and the best use of the neighborhood we decided if this transit rich corner we didn't need to provide parking but better to activate the 14th street cultivation and with ground floor stooped inspires to activate that location per the project has gone through several minor divisions which alex will go to
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we were to have a third party consultant because of the proposed building a potential contributor we are working closely with the team and very please line up on the screen side of the room pleased with the final design we feel it is a strong proposal are more conceptual with the fabric of the existing neighborhood the project present logic challenges a muni elevators on the premises and a muni escalator the tunnel in addition we've agreed we're feasible to widen the 14th street sidewalk and setback our building 7 feet from the corner that adds better pedestrian assess around the building is an actual corner with the church street as well i have presented to numerous
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neighborhood groups including getting the support of castro district and castro merchant and the coalition we presented twice to they're not currently supportive we fully supported the properties on the immediate west they wrote and letter and support the project in any historical of history it is unusual and jeff mentioned other numerous businesses have expressed support like the bangladesher shrber shop and i currently an eye soar into a vibrant corner with a. >> mixed use this building that provides permanent rental
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shock i'll present alex. >> i'll give you a brief design how it evolved i'll show you the first design to planning you know as you can see in this design it has contemporary and conceptual and shows our earth edge and show us the principles we kept celebrating the corner we wanted to market so in here last week the centering central design hug that corner that is grazing and the other part we had sort of wanted to play with the concept of the san francisco bay window and to make it a contemporary feature as all the bay windows comply that the zoning code with the bay so those are the principles that we
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started with after we submitted this we had some basically comments from the planning as you can see our set straddles over two heights of district the 65 feet and on 14th street disproves to 40 feet as you can see also the backyard that is tucked the back of the yard facing the neighbors we like i said, it up with their setback to benefit from light and air on market street we were the corner of church and 14 in that corner pushed back the building more room it on the sidewalk in this area we also got some basically comments about the look of the building mostly they wanted to us emphasis that corner i want
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to say we added height as you can see here and talked about market street as the civic street of san francisco we started is to bring those piers down to give it more of a formal look on market street and also, we took out the bay windows and placed balconies in sort of back and forth rhythm that you know with we got at the same time looked at that's we were getting commissioner campos comments from the historic preservation commission and you and that's what took us to the next design we are at things like bringing down the piers so the building is more grounded address giving it a top, middle and bottom and generally using better quality materials and the coloring that is more appropriate to the neighborhood
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so that's where we are right now as you can see for the top middle and bottom the glazing and also, we like how it actually comes forward and ties into the vertical elements we we brought back the bay windows and alternated the bay windows and the balconies the judea balcony gives people a chance to get air and not store things on the balcony and let me show you the other elevation we h 3 bay windows and two julia balconies that again comes from the rules for the design of the bay windows and as you can see how on 14th street we're sort the dropping the height of this to make that
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more fine-grained based on the residential quality of 14th street yeah - here on the ground level one of the things about the materials we had siding on the building and the structure. >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> your time is up. >> i think the commissioners may have questions for you. >> okay times up open up for public comment we might have questions for you. >> okay we have a number of speaker cards if you want to line up on that side of the room that would be great
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(calling names). >> if your name has been called feel free to please approach the podium. >> my name is sherry king ma'am, if i could ask you to bring down the microphone. >> my name is sherry king i'm an owner of the victorian the first block of 14 i'm here to oppose anything above 4 stories in the first block of 14 there is like a little row of victorians i circled there so i'm open as a building it is allowed to go up past 4 stories i'm concerned that the
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victorians will be dwarfed the tone of the street will be altered the street as i understand is part of historical district which i would assume intend to keep the look and feel of the era intact the owners of vindica victorians are to keep this historical it would be beyond four stories not go one thing for a building on math to steady four stories but since this building is part of 14 a suddenly difference in height will not be appropriate and next to the promoted
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building are two small commercial buildings the laundromat and pizza place i'm imagining if this building were allowed to go above 4 stories it will set a precedent and at some point those two commercial buildings with rise up also i just on the large building should stay an market street and not encroachment our neighbors also it sound like not parking for the residents i know it is present as a transient friendly building but no enclose the occupants don't have cars and add to the parking problems that's it thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello commission i'll pull up
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any presentation on that ground tom will set up the presentation can i pass around now the - >> sure. >> we was hoping to find a full screen view i'm not sure it will show up i'm tom on the triangle association i've been a resident of the area on 14 between noah for 13 years i bike and walk and drive past this site dale multiple times a
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big supporter of developer and an architect myself i focus mostly on more than developments i work in and among san francisco neighborhood so i understand the challenges of working in an existing urban context and the design review i'm not convinced this educated proposal is there yet in terms of the design so i'll speak to the design and also, this is the first of many proposals the upper market area and sets a precedent for things that have groundbreaking or impressive or sets a bar for others to follow so - in the upper market design guidelines words we focused on
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creative, sorry that i have light incentive and high quality materials i think overseeing things could through a colleague of mine on the land use commission we came up with buildings that we think are good examples of the architecture around the world and why are we seeing those in our neighbors this berlin random ord of facade and the features i think starts to break down this sort massive quality i think that is graceful and interesting and it evokes emotion this is the tokyo the different size of the massing
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and show interests this is a corner building that is a building in italy it has four stories a straightforward destine by the facade treatment beaked the treatment of the order of windows and i think that is good visual interests here's a local example of the richmond apartment in hayes valley interesting roofline the arrangement of the windows and massing break down the large development this is a corner. >> sir, your time is up. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> david troop where the triangle association i'll try to continue here the slide show from -
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>> so this was another flatiron building that is more visibly interesting and has more features last project was a project we spent a lot of time on and frankly disappointed on how the building once built like quite a bit different they used shading to try to make it look like there was a lot of articulation. >> sorry but the final project reads flat this is another project on
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market is also very vertical and didn't read very interesting. >> and we have similar architecture that is proposed in the inn deboss an sanchnn debo z the inn deboss an sanchnn debod you've seen how the renderings evolved i'm going to move on to retail we've been long proponents of smaller sized retail spaces that provide opportunities for local biz businesses to prosper in those spaces. >> the market octavia plan spells out the development should include a range of retail
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spaces some that are larger and some smaller. >> we were part of a retail study with other neighborhood groups which found that one of the problems and one of the reasons we have a high vacancy rate the large spaces of high rents they command so as a case study renée came on board came almost two years ago and right now only one of the 3 retail spaces is occupied the other two never occupied and the one occupied by a h ar block financial services and not a preferred sort of retail.
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>> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> >> next speaker. >> and dillon (calling names). >> peter cohen long involved the deboss triangle i don't know they explained the component 8 proximate causes that are moved over the course we were involved in every of them now they're built out a couple in construction this is a second wave this is the first of 6 projects the precedent sets in terms of second wave and we as a community learned from the first
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wave is important we want to impress on the details some folks say yes, it is good but details matter the issue is affordability you've heard 12 percent affordable is good these days people are will not argue it as low bar we found the pissing pieces of upper market hat dramatically increased with the new development and only the only tool a onsite available we've not had a project in the upper market so onsite closing arguments is good deboss triangle was part of an effort with a number of community organizations eureka valley and hayes valley and lower hate association all standing and articulating a policy position of 20 percent acknowledge onsite is what the community need
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how to make that happen is a project by project but we have advocated to the project sponsor and frankly zero interest in surfing no effort on the part of project sponsor how can that happen we realize the concentration can't force this but that is an issue for us i want to point out one aspect of this particular project flip forward now. >> that i would argue give us a handle there is 7 stories 65 envelope is typically a ground floor of 5 floors above and the market octavia had a 4 foot bum and intestinal exclusively having generous height by a
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variance request to squeeze in and the upper levels enough space to get a 7 floor the calculations a 20 percent increase the residential floor area that is the threshold of prop c that laws the city to propose a higher requirement i suggest you eliminate the floor or make that more alaws the cit propose a higher requirement i suggest you eliminate the floor or make that more laws the city propose a higher requirement i suggest you eliminate the floor or make that morlaws the city t propose a higher requirement i suggest you eliminate the floor or make that more olaws the cito propose a higher requirement i suggest you eliminate the floor or make that more wlaws the cit to propose a higher requirement i suggest you eliminate the floor or make that more propose suggest you eliminate the floor or make that more affordable. >> hi commissioners sorry about the e-mails you got but i was sending overwhelms for director rahaim and thank you director rahaim for coming to the land use committee on monday taking up his evening we presenter the design issues and especially he knows what he is talking about i want to talk about the process and my colleague handled the rest better to be safe than sorry as
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we expressed on monday we didn't believe they decide the issues this is peter cohen spoke about the first of 3 developments 21 hundred market and next on market and after that 2201 the industrial site and no one of the developers have been encouraged to talk with us seriously since the designs are getting less interesting and less affordable just to put up our model in the neighborhood 21 hundred market they've engaged and squeezed in 20 percent accountable and turned a profit it's been appointed those are the pipeline for a long time but they've been advocating for
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affordable housing and no longer than prop k was passed in 2014 asking for 33 percent of all new housing to be affordable and the center of the city and setting a model of 12 percent hoping this is not a model and as our neighborhood gets built out on market street represents the last opportunity inform create income levels we're asking for sorry i guess i went the wrong way on the last slide the best thing to do i mentioned this earlier postpone the first 6 weeks that may not be enough time to discuss and add the extra story or get rid of and get more affordable it can't be done in a walk welcome back and
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not done up to now the last minute planning is not good planning i ask you to postpone this for 6 weeks and give us time to create a building that is beautiful and neighborhood serving in terms of income and there's time we'll sit down with bryan we like him and get something that will be good for the neighborhood thank you. >> hi laura clark staff i think we have two issues and been pled and this happens often in san francisco housing number one it is pretty that's an argument i have little tolerance in 1973 better than all railing that mr. was a anyone extras extras on the horizon that is
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lovely i really like it on my t-shirts right now, we're in a housing crisis every time we spend too much energy and too much fighting we all agree on what is pretty we're waste of time there are people being evicted today, we need to create the housing for people moving here tomorrow i urge you to stop delaying overseeing projects the second argument around affordability i have a lot of tolerance i love it when we talk about affordability we need this city to be accountable and maybe chance the laws and make that a higher requirement and spend 25 percent affordable housing fine let's do that legislatively we should be forcing more people to do that onsite fine that's an
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argument we have citywide something we can't let projects that are lodged on top of muni station to be downsized in the name of supposing adding a higher percentage of affordability that reduces the number of total of homes we need to think about the total number of homes that we are creating and maybe they have shorter ceilings i'm fine with i live in a tall ceiling space i don't spend much time at the top of my ceilings we need density around transit rich on a place that has been abandoned this is perfect i thank you guys not to delay and delay and delay every time you. >> delay a project is another week a family goes without a
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home i urge you to be efficient in our process. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is dillon i'm the owner of the wood house property across the street from the proposed site and a partner at the swedish-american hello hall i've been doing business in the neighborhood for nearly 10 years and for the last 5 the site has been vacant and a magnet for illicit activity and coasted in graffiti we like to see that building with some activity in that and see that soon it's been a long time i'm not an architect and can't speak to how the building looks at we want to see
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some something there and something soon thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> afternoon commissioners i'm chase chambers the general manager of academy a medical cannabis dispensary serving 50 thousand member patient on market street we take pride in our business and prathsdz since 2011 and have contributed to the improvement of the environment at intersection church and market nevertheless, the by building combined with the large supermarket across the street another several other entry buildings created a volume it is filled with graffiti and other hazards we think this will
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improve the environment bryan and his development company have been an integrity and a track record of a success and development in san francisco which speaks for itself i think we are delighted to support this project and urge the commission to swiveling approve the building as a president of guerrero and market street across the street from the other project i understand there is a few concerns about the bottom floor rep i attended the meetings that bryan gave there was a considerable amount learned from that project they're making a very good effort to understand the needs of neighborhood northbound a retail aspect and they correct me if i am wrong but i would building this kind of made changes to the ground floor to address some of the issues i believe that there is
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already more excitement throughout the empowering retail in this project so i do believe there is a guarantee gave me thought put into in project i personally support that. >> i've seen the abandoned location glow a lot of really hard times and fires and encampment and it is a hazard we do need to do something that that as much as possible. >> as quickly as possible. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm andrea and the executive director for the castro hill upper market benefit district i'd like to echo what that woman eloquently said about design a few minutes we know that design changes from over the years and
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over the decades and not so long ago when that space was zoned and 85 feet i remember all the talk the city about the manhattantion of san francisco we were not concerned about housing but the manhattantion of san francisco and doesn't want density now everyone says we need density and housing and housing and housing it is a shame at the corner sitting over muni that was it was changed because of community pressure from community organizations and so i really urge towing you not to delay it is important that that corner has been a source of blight for many, many, many years the community benefit district and bryan spears has spent thousands of dollars remove graffiti and broken
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windows and boarding stuff up we have to get that building torn down and the new building built as quickly as possible and additionally the cv d some folks referred to bryan spears was one of the members of the retail team and the cv d in about 4 weeks will begin implementing the recommendation and to pull the brokers and property owners together at church and market to talk about decreasing the vacancy and bringing in businesses created a vision for 3 corner among the property owners that cv a will be part of that to bring in violate of
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vital businesses so i'm not worry it is divided into the so to speak spaces that as restaurant that we urge you to the cv d board and prvrnz irregular to you pass this and pass it now thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners rob pool point housing action coalition speaking for the individual member thank you for allowing me can i please have the overhead. >> walk you through the report card so members reviewed this recently and we're very supportive of it obviously the site is completely underutilized
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for bad behavior it make sense they take advantage of the studios broken and two bedroom and we'll asked for parking units we're support in their meeting the letter of the law with 40 first antidepressant we support that obviously the city had a lot of discussions in 2011 and 2012 and now having it discussion again, it was purchased the law was 12 percent a decision that was made and we have to respect that open the developer said that he was open to exploring the inclusionary we'll be more supporter and actually conduct the affordability its an important topic that the transit oriented as you can get cars on top of the muni station is highly appropriate we will support the
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new bike lane he is open to that idea nothing from the could urban design this property will encourage active use and widens the sidewalk and the to tell you the picks up on the rhythm for environmental futures they're meeting the basic standard and do anything to help enhance those features we'll be incredibly supportive we have a good job atheism not been in agreement with everyone about is hard to do in san francisco on affordability stand point you know some people say there is precedent for a junior high
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school level we've seen that in 5 m and mission rock rocking about this is in upper market we saw it in another plays 12 percent in 2011 and envelope this project has been the work for two to three years we have to respect the law thank you. >> my name is silvia johnson you know i'm looking at your instructions that there's no table i've been looking mission street to you know do this process i've been really sick but getting better i've been feeling a whole lot
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better those promotions that muni agreed on we rebuilt as far as the law but it is included on the policies and we need to have more politicians put on the policies to insure that the context were more building construction during other you know procedures open other contracts and i think that is that the reason why smooth those projects on market street has been hadn't regret and no right-hand turn is we - garden,
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you know, this is a what we need on a lot of these to respect people you know do our you know - this is what there's a lot of fighting and stuff last week this going on and i am going through high school and college to go ahead and cbo to the university school since i've been better and i'm more you know - really moving on in a car and want that car to be processed and already to be reserveed and it would not be
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class here because i have you know things that have not been processed on the police department because they've not - he's a father additional rather have the process in close nearby and that way we get this preened and making the other procedure on the project thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is victor i'm a property owner and a neighbor of the proposed project it was a tough act to follow anyway, i support the project
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that was proposed and regarding the affordability requirement i speak in general i think that changing the affordability requirement makes it tough for projects to get you know new projects to be proposed so i think you'll see that 25 percent or 20 percent is a smaller number that will be a lot less than 12 percent of a bigger number. >> commissioners victor goes on a development consultant working on the 2198 market street 6 months away from completing that project it was entitled in 2014 with d t and a-12 percent rental onsite
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all of a sudden a lot of talk recently recent talk about the housing crisis and always been a housing crisis the triangle upper market street is half rent-controlled unit and stabilized in if that regard and the other half homeowner for that regard and the first wave of development is the you were market street those are underutilized sites for abandoned homes that need a mixed use development and getting mixed use development under the plan i think that is a great endorse time it is happening with great results when the gentleman was before you i was here i was interested it was urged several times by
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neighbors and having been d t and a we don't want another retail formula we should tear it down with onsite affordable housing and that's what the owners took from that hearing and that's what their presenting i'll urge you to support the project and get on with that in our surveys current rents we see the rent stabilize there is a lot of rent control in mission bay that are flael flattening out the rents the argument of supply and demand if that matter we do a lot of work in seattle seattle's relents are dropping they've developed a much larger supply of agreement then we have
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thank you very much. >> i'm sorry a neighbor the neighborhood for 25 years i pass that corner for many, many times most of period of time it has not been an eye soar this is perfect if you can upgrade that will would be better for 50 units is great but 18 would be better you've goes to got it in the middle of town i'm fully in support the design is for the holder it is perfect. >> up in the housing the lower-income why we put the burn in the bedrooms this is a problem for all of us the city as lands why the city didn't
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need the new housing we have all responsible and we all should be dealing not only just for businesses it process would be approved as quickly as possible thank you, thank you any public comment? come on up. >> other speakers come on up as well. >> yep. >> my name is mccain wall deck it is district attorney gentleman have you i was before you in 2013 with the same group was opposing then as now the design i didn't really listen to them and realized they were the design czars of san
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francisco sorry they didn't look at tokyo and berlin but picked someone no california i was a representative i'm the representative of family that dealt with that property for the last ten years i'll tell you we tried ever possible tenants and a number of small restaurants i won't name but i'll disclosure privately dealing with bryan has been a pleasure he's an honest and humble person that is building this for his family and signed a 99 year lease and you know that he will build an excellent building and an design it is worthy of the city i'm with everybody else that the
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delaying tactics are ridiculous and to change the goalpost like they do the and try to change this goalpost is outrageous so i hope you'll approve this project >> any other speakers. >> public comment. >> okay public comment is closed. and commissioner antonini. >> i think this is a very good project carefully thought-out i appreciate the arithmetic presentation showed the development and to those who were critical of building that was like one group said it would dramatic enough and showed a lot of examples and bizarre looking buildings throughout the world and others said it didn't fit in with the victorians but it strikes a good balance the only
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thing i'll say in looking at the pictures i like the julie let balcony i'd like to see these a little bit darker you have the gray and bleak you need to eliminate maybe in a forest green or dark gray to offset a little bit and make sure those are not interpreted as floor to ceiling windows and make them look at more every solid elements or if you have the railings in at least no weird colors nice rich color would help out that's my design comment on that this is a wonderful site i remember when homes was there you can't get any more the k l m j and n they aligned the t an extension of the k have their
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large are win a half of block of this site certainly easy to get around those parts of city served by metro and not far into bart to assess other parts of bay area we passed market octavia after many years like the eastern neighborhood this was an eardrum neighborhood but a better neighborhood and established and certain level of affordability that is what the rule is and onsite makes a lot of sense and the laws are trying to squeeze more of a small development after the fact is no not a way to do business this is well done two years at the site of 124 and the units are onsite it is important and a lot of
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support from neighboring properties as well as mom and the castro merchant have a lot of groups in favor of that i like the way on 14th street the building setbacks to accommodate the lower heights i like the tridesign those buildings many of the buildings on upper market are old enough they followed the formula that was around since the 60s probably to it does fit in well with the architecture and i have no concerns about the size of the particular restaurant in there home do very well for the time it was there and a bigger place will do well it is easily assessable for people riding muni and people driving to the west side of san francisco and often stop there for dinner and
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it was a great place to go on the way home that makes a lot of sense and i'm supportive. >> director rahaim. >> i wanted to commission mention a couple of things first this is consistent with the market octavia and i think the pardon is correct zoned for 85 needed and after that a discussion of the historic survey that came after the plan and the decision to lower the height limits at this point i also want to among the land use committee we had an interesting robust discussion about design issues and i if i may kind of give you any precipitation what i said to them is i know there is a concern amongst members of the
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neighborhood our position we thumbs down but the challenge is two-fold one to create a building that is a contemporary design and i think we all agree that the department's policy for a long time has to design building of our time but at the same time this or building that are conceptual not an easy thing to do the other concerns we've had in the department when we do embrace buildings that are two-fold and very non-traditional it is very challenging to build those building in a way that comes off in a way that really works ultimately with the actual execution one thing to do that here and to look at the buildings that are a conceptual design level but challenging when the bold contemporary buildings are to get them right
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in terms of the materials not that it can't be done those are good examples in my opinion but that's the challenge we often have thought department you know david winning closing slow worked $16,000 or hours a day and understands those issues far better than me but to understand creating building contemporary but work in the context without being a building that in 10 years we'll role our eyes why did you let that happen that's the challenge as always with the projects we'll continue to work on the design after you approve that and talk about whether or not your comfortable or not but wanted to give you my prospective with the neighbors discussions i had on monday.
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>> commissioner vice president richards. >> to the people that were urging us to you approve the project and maybe asking why we'll display it nobody is disputing everyone agrees whether or not they like the building still a mixed use building we're all starting from the same place. >> speak louder. >> i guess a question for the project sponsor architect i sat through the market octavia you know for 5 years understanding that the 64 feet meant 1 feet on the ground floor and every others floor was 10 feet can you tell him from the design how you got 7 floors and 65 feet please, please. >> you know actually easily he mentioned the building is out of concrete structure so typically
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the number of floors that you described will have to be a wood construction by using concrete basically we're reducing did flap to 7 inches so basically floor to floor is close to 9 feet and the 8 by 4 ceiling that's how we psychiatries in the other level and keeping the 14 on the ground level. >> did the grade from church to the muni elevator have has to do with. >> we measured from the center that was yes, if you divide it to two, thirty inches with using accurately concrete as the structure we achieved the comfortable floor to ceiling. >> okay. thank you. >> i guess under t you and i had chufgsz and trying to get in
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extra floors we have two harrison and another one down 5 feet and project at 6 and clara i think the floor to ceiling were 8 feet of you mentions a minimum you'll feel comfortable with what is that in height and how does that project relate. >> city administrator. >> it is true the planning code didn't have a minimum requirement for floor to ceiling and nothing preventing the plan for the height granted to it to squeeze in an extra floor if it is probably the question what we're comfortable with the interpretation the policy called from the department and the design team and so personally sanchez we don't have a position
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on the height of floors but this may be a position that a policy or design level so the director or someone else can speak to that issue. >> director rahaim a health to floor ceiling pea what is that. >> i think we have typically when this issue came up the last year we typically said 8 feet to the minimum and we prefer higher but that 8 - the building code says 7 feet that's ridiculous in terms of the quality of space but 8 is the minimum my name is in my opinion. >> it is interesting when we did the market octavia plan we envisioned this happening if we used accruals one say was for the project on 6 and clara and aspire design for bill at 12 and harrison so the commission should say hey are we okay with
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those additional 5 feet height districts what is the criteria we'll be to approve or what should we tell the project sponsors that we want those to look from the design point of view mr. win slow you have a few comments. >> only if asked i've heard - to up zone the historic survey that identified an are article 10 this parcel is in upper market california likable district around transportation commercial district so given the
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fact the paper is the district what specific limits it has in terms of design. >> let me speak jefferson so the specifics are beyond my pail but director rahaim indicated you know what we're always trying to balance and achieve buildings have their time and in this site in a exceptional quality is a transit corridors on the premium street market street. >> so with the drastic angle every architect to have a shape and some kind of discretion and at the same time balance the fabric the city and the fabric of the city every or exemplified by this historic district to there is a kind of fabric that has to be respected and there's
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the designer that has to be spriertdz so the marriage is complicated the upper math and the limousine controls this project does a fair job of doing that almost a fully activated ground floor so it has balconies on the upper floors and you know substantial given the side that was a substantial two ground floor units on the street. >> i guess another question they're asking for a variance by a foot you're more maybe akin to this than me i'll probably look at the manufactures is there a difference between the ground floor. >> you know the cases you've
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mentioned we look at with great scrutiny the height limits was are for the spaushs ground floor we say quote/unquote an extra floor in we take into account the considerations one slope and context and use and quality of life you know are they doing it at the extension of 7 foot 6 absolute minimum and so it is the design as well as a policy call this one was discussed at the upperes lessons of the planning department for some times - from the design prospective as it
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relates to the prevailing street wall. >> i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say. >> thank you commissioner hillis. >> is good to see the property owner here that brought back long hearings you were not happy about the results of hearing but i think we can say i think we got to a better place i hope you ultimately agree in respect a lot a folks the commission and hearing room that day that wanted to see a housing on this site so i'm glad we're here talking about that we did that in a relatively quick timeframe so thank you for looking at this and report to us you didn't find other restaurant but a housing project i appreciate that.
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>> i know i think it fits kind of bulk in massing works here so i appreciate and your ability to take advantage of that 5 i think you do that you get that extra height by take advantage of the 5 slope knocking down a foot on that ground floor to get that extra foot i think that worked not out of context here the two comments i'll bring up one on the overall design i think i like our work architect hanukkah i've looked our website and i think you do great work i think you've gotten a little bit lost within the committee or too many folks imputing what this should be i like our initial design better than the first thing i think that needs for on
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that corner i mean it's an important corner you enter into the castro and cross two intersection of church and market i present our attention but it got lost i'd like to i'm sure others didn't your initials design i'm not saying there are not suggestions a tweak here and there but inspire you to have a design step it up a notch especially looking at what you did initially which i appreciate and then my second question about the 14th street facade you got the two residential units on 14th street did you look at retail on that side on 14 i think you may have height
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problems you goop or go up but your there's an interesting on classify there is the pizza space one block is interesting. >> a couple of thing on the ground floor on 14th street we opposed parking and proposing 25 percent parking we also at that point had a narrow sidewalk we agreed to widen it and put the pg&e transformer and opened up an area to activate 14th street and thought that was a better use to do a nice residential ground floor with a couple of steps and planter if you look at the rest of the planning block you'll see that in the residential units as you move west on 14 he won other comment on the ground floor i'll point
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out the ground floor requirement is 14 foot floor to floor we maintained that throughout the entire retail space we moved look at of 14 from grade so the variance we questioned it the exact same variance on the other two corner lots and couple of points at the get less as and step their floors it is a common request and the exterior on the residential or 8 foot over and over more we're not trying to sandwich in. >> back to my question i was asking bhor about the two units on the ground floor. >> stooping to retail and we explicit see an attractive ground floor location and the necessity for rental housing it
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fit the residential building up 14th street. >> yeah. i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say i think that is something to consider potential if it is visible and appreciate pg&e's discussion on design we had a similar discussion on potrero hill one evening and continued push to kind of elevate the level so thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> the longer you wait pushing the button the more you have to respond to the questions i believe the site is a housing site a mixed use site that comes to the commission pushing back other projects have been consistently been supportive the the devil is in the details but before i get to the the devil is in the details commissioner hillis i'll show you the earlier
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version was more speaking to me relative to some of the objectives by the public and i'd like to say it is easy to use your european example as a analog their harder to build here and it is individual design projects that we can't quite realize to the extent they're built over there we encourage the ideas and that is where i think this project at the moment is trying to two hard to do two of and not sensitive to the champs and the first one i'd like to remind might have i had to go back into my notes when we first supported the development and the details of market octavia plan then followed by the elaboratetion on upper
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market together with the overlay of the historic district and the commissioner was sitting here created a careful 0 overlay on the first height with the provision that their bulk limitations would be b rather 65 x that's something, something to do with the sub conventional - as your local the expression of the flat buildings we want to have a common recall on the massing of those new buildings will have we made a significant attempt tattoo get the massing less grateful than currently proposed this project has the problem that it tries to do too much and by using the 14 foot
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ground floor height it indeed skips some of the requirements that are very important to many of us this is if we are doing liveable ground floor units on 14th street the units we're proposing here will only exist from the curtains are drawn and that's a fact that gets me to speak is about the the devil is in the details the daily is if we encouraged ourselves to ask for activated retail and facades on the ground floor the 14th street facade is relentlessly what commissioner hillis said why isn't this retail pare the blank wall is a question mark and get into the
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details of the other things the same as the juliette balcony and the sameness of the railings basically around the patterson that holds it together doesn't work for me mr. spears motioning if you want to make a comment i'd like to hear from you. >> i'm just asking the question what is the blank wall. >> this element on page 11 there is a long blank wall i know there is no windows. >> so that wall is perpendicular it determines what you look at when you come down 14th street towards market street. >> i don't think commission we're allowed to do a property
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wall not facing 14th street it is facing - it is an odd landmarking our elevation stand out it is a property line we would like to do something that is a property line wall you'll not see it stands out in the renderings unfortunately. >> the wall itself hsa as it is rather large. >> about 3 stories we're 40 feet the neighboring building about 1011 a one-story building. >> the wall itself is not a deal breaker but i believe that the desire facade of evolution felt facade including how the flatiron is in the landmark recognizing feefrn on market street has to do with to be developed more including the differentiation massing and differentiation the facade
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population i believe that the 24 hundred square feet retail since it only has one point of access including internal liquor as for the second one potentially needs to be conceived easing as multiply spaces and it has to have the ability to have multiply spaces we basically need that discussion ero and over and over again. >> the space has been restaurant we think that 26 hundred square feet is larger than a restaurant we'll be open to splitting the space not a concern and create the openings so we'll work with the planning department certainly. >> let me thank you, mr. spear sfoour comment the thing which kind of goes through mid market is th
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is that potrero hill were the first group of people that spent a lot of time with the boskovich to think about the next generation of buildings and architecture it is part of that discussion and i think the same here with the 6 buildings which were mentioned to about them down the line we should give this more time like 6 weeks and let that discussion evolve and address some of the challenges that the commission have talked about i'll make a motion to do that and the support is still there. >> is that a motion. >> i'll second that. >> commissioner johns commissioner antonini. >> i want to the staff it is a continue to work on design this project nooetsdz needs to be approved now it is long
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enough everyone is in agreement with most of tenants except for speak of the design issues and certainly in the past commissioner moore has been generous and others commissioners work with staff and project architects to help the shaping of the final version of the project particularly with reference to the flatiron version of the building you'll see coming up market and it could you know use something look at more staggering of the corners and something on the top with the wall that faces market kind of you know bring your attention to that a little bit more so those are what iceland vote against the continuance and later we vote dune the continuance to approve it today and continue to work on design a couple of design ideas upmarket a lot of new things and get
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comments from people i don't like had one so the two best are what is a century i think that is fits in nicely and bridges the gap between something that is clearly been built recently it fits in well with the context of the buildings on market the practido - the features tha makes it more successful don't overdo the glaze too much glazing makes it upcoming interesting as many of you may know symmetry and articulation are what we share with the older buildings we can make that interesting i think that is the direction to go. >> commissioner wu.
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>> thank you i agree with a lot of the comments open design i'm especially interested in the retail space and breaking it up the other side of the retail spaces and the rhythm feels like a neighborhood and i know that under those an opportunity to yes, ma'am late some of that here i'd like to see it broke down into two to three spaces although the zoning administrator court i'm not sure how i feel about the 14 foot variance is it a trend this is the thirsted one we've seen i would like to see the 15 foot actually across the whole floor not even what is in front of us in any case that gives me pause that's it for now. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> a question for mr. t-65 b
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versus 60 dash 68 x i recall the zoning map the one 60 parcel i know that mistakes happen all the time by the way, what if this was not an error. >> essentially an x unbelievable no bulk requirement the way the bulk requirements work depending on the level of bulk requirement above a certain height the measurement with the diagonal of the tower has to be smaller you get a smaller building as you go up so there is no requirement i believe that begins at 60 feet and i can't i can look it up really quick.
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>> if i could maybe i can clarify the 14 the base requirement the requirements is 14 feet not 1 feet right. i. >> - so when we rezoned properties for most of moukd district in the mc-3 the floor to ceiling height it 14 feet from grade and no variance required. >> and then for the associated rezoning that happened they get a 5 feet limit it is 65 or have the ability the district to get extra 5 feet or in a district 5 feet for the ground floor it is a perfect match for ever inch above the height it had a is to be blow the ground floor in you're not automatically zoned for 45 and up to 5 feet that is
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a one to one trade off if you take it the extra 5 feet all 5 feet has to be on the ground floor and the ground floor ceiling height requirement. >> that was the real text project. >> so the one for one so one for one means 15 feet ground floor? >> is - does this project require if i was a 65 height district. >> i think that's the point not the one for one it is the 65 foot go height. >> it says 64 dash x. >> x is the bulk. >> so an absolute 65. >> that's right. >> it is different from the real text they didn't get the extra 5 feet for the baits. >> we couldn't require it is
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an absolute non-they put the extra floor that was 65 i'm sorry 85 feet i thought that was one that requires it the real text the reason we voted on the 9 floors it didn't require it. >> yeah. 64. >> yeah. >> i think the other thing i second the continuance a developer part of the fabric the neighborhood love the guy i think the neighborhood loves you, too brian i bryan some folks in the neighborhood want to have this happen right away and others more time i look at every time every building in the european market they've not opposed one i think that bryan in our listener project you got
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up and said that was part of progress you've wait a long time but more time working with the rest of the neighborhood and getting things better you'll not have a complete winner but we'll be singing commissioner bassham by i can't. >> i want to be supportive- get back to us with design changes quicker i'd like to see that 6 weeks shortened so i can
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support it i've done the right thing and we've encouraged them so i'm supportive i want to be supportive i think that needs some changes not quite sure to continue it for that long. >> commissioner moore. >> zoning administrator did you find the provisions for the upper market street nc t regarding 21st century feet so the letter support for the extra effort followed a year or two later i distinctly remember that was 1 feet in four quarters i must have been strurldz but properly remember verify that. >> i'm not sure i can verify but can get back to the question of how the ground floor lay and
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a one to one trade off there was - it appeared to be a drafting error it was rezoned the only district the one to one apply to 50 and 45 the intent to say the zoning administrator applying applying the intent to 65 district so in this situation not a situation for ever inch above 60 feet to provide that high of a evergreen but the 65 ground floor and the minimum ground floor ceiling will be 14 feet. >> so no variance required. >> yes. a variance required. >> there's a rear yard. >> but for the ground floor to ceiling height where you take that an angle we measured the height if you have a sloping
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project the down point would be higher than the mid point or up slope so in this situation for this project at the corner where the retail entrance is promoted they meet the requirement and up the scale there deficit by 2 and a half feet that had been interesting to commissioner hillis shorter timeline. >> three or four weeks. >> we can do 4 weeks, 6 weeks. >> secretary for the 31st. >> march. >> no four weeks put this on calendar. >> to me 6 weeks, two weeks
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later. >> march third. >> sure. >> march third. >> just to be clear we have two commissioners out on march third. >> well (laughter) i trust this process will hopefully be a 5 zero on march third. >> commissioner richards. >> i'm okay with the amendment if you are. >> i want to make another comment. >> okay hang. >> commissioner moore. >> from the commission votes for the continuance i ask we look at the liveability of the 146 street unit at that moment can only be a full cushion they sit, too close to the sidewalk we're discussing the ground floor height i'll ask and that will really drive it home that
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the residential unit anticipate what the liveability and the non-drawn cushions on the sidewalk we all know what that takes at the moment it sfw happen it's a challenge is in our interest and a lot of things reading at many moment it doesn't work tracking back determine what the ground floor on the side to animate the 14th street the way it is asking for this is like a footnote to asking for a continuance. >> i'm not going to be supportive of the continuance you have the developer with a proven track record in san francisco proven track record if in area responsive to the needs and the questions of area
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has a history of retail as well as dwelling units above i think by continuing this even three weeks your denying unit to be built in san francisco for three weeks. >> i echo the commissioner wu's comments when i met with mr. spears i'll look at potentially commercial spaces instead of housing units. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'll not be supporting the continuance but i think it is very important that the commission make it clear it looks we'll have the votes to continue but in my mind we're talking about the use of 14th street whether this should be residential or should be commercial and perhaps some mentioned of the little size of the commercial space and a lot of that and i heard design concerns with particular reference to the flatiron
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section and maybe the other commissioners i've made any comments about the design things i 0 thought would add to the richness but other commissioners can weigh in what we want the project sponsor to be consider and as far as i'm concerned, this is about affordability over the public comment but we're in agreement this project is doing what it has to do but the design needs work. >> i'll ask someone from the property owner to be clear from the continuance is approved. >> and so i appreciate you're trying to move forward i think everybody is doing that would we're getting a lot of directions it is difficult a couple of things i want to clarify the ground floor residential units will request
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to activate 14th street we could have been the - they are really nice units and a lot of vacancies the neighborhood we didn't want to look for 14th street is not as attractive at market street and from a business prospective on 14th street it is we could consider going back to retail there but the 14 feet height is confusing as heck the problem it is 146 foot floor to floor we're on a sloping triangle very challenging lot we come into the retail space we're 14 floor to floor the sidewalk gradually slopes on market street and in some areas the sidewalk is slightly a lot of the ground floor retail and the exact
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corners going the other directions users the 14 foot motivation to go back to a wood metric building and eliminate stoifrdz 4 feet ceilings is not what we're trying to achieve so i like some direction the reason the variance it is slightly under the grade sidewalk grade measurement i wanted to clarify and get direction because i'd like to get this approved i think that the planning staff we are trying to work but i don't know what i can do different getting approved now didn't achieve that so again, i appreciate i i know we're trying to work together on that thank you very much. >> thank you. >> sdmifks.
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>> a question for the one more time the additional floor is no type of entitlements or up zoning it is achievable and it can happen and works. >> nothing in the code that limits the number of floors they're able to - >> in your opinion concrete construction is better than that wood frame. >> i don't think the place there are different types. >> i mean the concrete is better on our plate. >> okay. >> i'll leave it to commissioner hillis. >> commissioner hillis. >> so to clarify i'm typically supportive and typically say go work with staff if so it is facade design of a project i share commissioner moore's concerns on 14th street
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especially with the units i think they should be retail if you walk down the 14th street that one block it is rare to look someone's retail a garage it is garage would stoop up or rail to you time to have is the dead space because you're going to have people that don't on a busy corner a big muni stop drawing their cushions i mean, i want i want to challenge you and you've got to assess it your below grade so, i mean if we could say do retail in that space i could work on design but i'm not sure you can with that height i'm not sure you could assess that retail from 14th street the way you've built that
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building if you want to come up and tell me how your residential below grade. >> the residential units are below grade they step into the residential there are three or four steps into each residential units we stepped our floor plates you step up to the place and existing stoops going up 14th street and have a turn to - we mimic the existing fabric but certainly open to retail if you think retail is better not a sticking point we thought it was a great addition to the project but and end up with a 10 foot height in there we can put the section. >> put it up on the overhead. >> i don't know how to turn
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this on. >> it will come up. >> alex you want to walk through as you can see the steps coming up into the residential space and see i turn the corner into our unit you notice the planter at the sidewalk with a nice plant to give privacy it is similar to what you'll see around the neighborhood. >> we actually (inaudible). >> sir, i'm sorry you'll have to speak into the microphone and point. >> how tall are those. >> that's the challenge it is a difficult lot 200 and 60 feet find listener footage you have 25 to 50 foot frontage it is we
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get back there to achieve 14 feet will be difficult if you want a 14 feet height so 10 foot residential space we thought about that but certainly look at retail that's the challenge we face but the lot slopes 6 feet. >> i get it. >> typically walk into the front of the building with the adjoining building here we're imposed. >> you walk up 14th street that is a busy well traveled street so well utilized bus stop on 14 and the muni station they're not going to be when commissioner moore said people are sitting outside on the stoop or allowing people probation officer look in it will be absent dead. >> i think you're correct and
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in widening percentage sidewalk from the to 12 feet it is a ground floor i mean, i think it will be a very attractive unit based on the in-law units but i defer to you guys i think it is a great use and pictures of existing buildings with residential ground floor. >> so i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say i think i can be supportive if we ask you to work with staff and the design so do retail on 14th street. >> i'm willing to look at that certainly. >> commissioner wu. >> i just wanted to close the loop on the 14 foot ground floor i think that the zoning administrator has explained that it is 65 feet without a
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specific. >> correct i'm not sure exactly what the situation in other cases about no refrigerates for the additional height additional just to add if we did project does consider retail only the 65 foot it creates the same variance we'll have to meet that with a direct floor or variance as well. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i i guess i would be okay if project sponsor agreed to put retail there i think having did you work with staff on the design with the makers of the motion because 14th street up to bell cher belcher is - i had a coworker
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that lived on 140 on the ground floor but 3 feet off never had her you curtain open because people railroad looking at her so i feel i'll withdraw my second if you can live with that. >> commissioner moore. >> i'm prepared to let creativity decide if it is retail or residential partial because at many moment because the lengthness of 14th street facade together with the fact that the ground floor is an not an maltd enough it is balanced as mr. spear stepped back to reexamine it will answer the questions i'm not going to do as much land use as angle elevated
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approach to the surrounding of the property on all ends that's pie suggestion. >> commissioner antonini and sound like the motion is no longer seconded and perhaps. >> not sauktd sill safeguarded as long as i guess commissioner vice president richards you want to definitely not be residential. >> i don't know the sniff test was residential. >> we'll weigh in whatever feels right that is what it will be. >> you still have a continuance motion. >> yes. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further there is a there is a motion that has been seconded to continue this matter until march third with commissioners comments. >> on that motion. >> commissioner antonini. >> no commissioner hillis no commissioner moore
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commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry the first time is 6 years. >> (laughter). >> i'm not supporting the continuance. >> very good commission that that motion fails 3 to 3 an alter motion. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i move to approve the project to have the project sponsor work with staff american peopleless proivengsz as well as the overall design to allow the creativity to be unleashed. >> motion to approve. >> that is a motion to approve. >> i'm going to i think i'll defer to the commissioners we'll see what comes out of that our strong sense that is retail. >> breaking down the larger
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retail space or not. >> can i have input please. can i suggest what i think and heard is that the ability to break it up but have a single user the preferred approach is that fair. >> gentlemen commissioner antonini. >> i seconded it i approve to work with staff and work with the commission. >> commissioner moore. >> i'd like to adds an additional request that the representatives from the communities are able to at that particular time in ongoing review similar on potrero the request that staff could not do it but help to broaden the discussion of what the community seize still port support for the project but those extra voices need to be there. >> i'm fine with the
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secondeder. >> commissioner hillis. >> mr. cotton and mr. troop we're asking you to be part of design process? is that okay with you >> yes. >> okay. >> commissioner hillis. >> i'd like to maybe not part of motion but strongly at least one of the retail spaces for retail i think that 14th street zoned space dr. to be part of the motion i will just ask for a look back and present in the director's report or somewhere more formal than a memo and commissioner moore asking for the retail spaces our thoughts on that. >> i really don't have an answer because my larger questions the space on the
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corner didn't work you're going up 14 it then takes it's town hall of 14th street. >> i'll change to ask for a retail having one residential. >> i'll agree to the project sponsor can i ask you about this before i second this is that going to be we're approving it about apparently. >> i'm awe mental to retamena it is ivy think i can do a nice retail bans the existing fabric and the size of the project i'm more amenable. >> i'll change.
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the court: excuse me. to add the variance that was mentioned by the mr. t would be required to be i think that is noticed properly for the inspire site by 14 feet as well. >> i change my motion. >> i'm fine with e cigarette the new motion. >> commissioner hillis. >> i'm sorry, i was going to make that same point we'll be supportive so wrap up hearing everyone's comments but from a lay man's point the 14th street side of that building i think we'll asking no to increase estimate that whether that is half retail and half residential that is a full space and like those in new york city both sides of street are equally important so 14th street is the
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more important. >> on that motion to approve this matter with conditions at amended to include the sponsor work with staff on design providing retail on the 14 including did retail size and flexibility and that the community to be a part of design process and there will be a formal report back on the projects new design commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore excuse me. commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and i will close the variance hearing for the rear yard and the ground floor ceiling height and make a note i'll take it under advisement considering the rear yard variance under the
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planning code section 134b. >> very good that places us on our final two items at market street this is also a conditional use authorization. >> commissioner richards. >> yeah. i'm within a property of 5 hundred feet i recuse myself. >> on that motion to rouse commissioner vice president richards commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong commissioners, that motion passes you're hereby recused commissioner vice president richards. >> good evening commissioner president fong and members the commission veronica department staff the the item before you is request for the conditional use authorization to will go lists an existing tobacco
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establishment on market street the property is located within the upper market neighborhood commercial district and 50 height and bulk district the property is evolved with a 40 story building with 17 dwelling units on the upper floors and 7 commercial businesses on the greater the project is to legalize an existing doing business as gifts and smoke shop they opted in 2013 without proper planning review the existing tenant space manufacture 4 hundred square feet and a not change as port part of project the proposed hours of operation are between 10:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. detail daily it has gift as american people accessory use and take out and nolo contendere
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summation on site mrs. not the department of public health regulates the permit for the sale of e cigarettes the item before you is because the business fits the planning commission of tobacco paraphernalia more than 10 percent percent of the area is dedicated to tobacco paraphernalia it is not a retail formula and no increase in the concentration of the establishments in the upper market and mcd the tobacco paraphernalia that presents less than 10 percent within the mcd to date the department has one letter in support from the castro merchant you received after your paycheck were delivered although not required for the purposes of this conditional use authorization process the planning department requested
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that the project sponsor host a preapplication meeting co-authored to department standards adjacent project sponsors and occupant to the subject property and neighborhood upper areas were invite the skwort of comments during this meekly were in support of this project. >> the department recommend approval with conditions and buildings it the nvrn for the following reasons the project has the continued satiated business and has the liquidity of the or you will u upper market mcd it will not displace a tenant and would not result in a net increase of tobacco paraphernalia establishment within the area that meets all applicable that that concludes my presentation.
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i'm available to answer any questions. >> project sponsor please. >> good afternoon. i'm the project sponsor. >> this project is so maul what we're asking to increase the let me tell you the story a photocopy tour a couch weeks ago i was listening to the news it was the northeast and they drove all the small businesses out of town and by the time the release shin no profit that location they stutd shut so therefore the neighborhood if have small businesses selling food and goods and suture stuff like this this is the exact they know a block away from a cd pharmacy all kinds of guests and things
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go and get this is such a small story between 4 hundred square feet we tried to have more tobacco products that gifts because nobody comes to the store and buys gifts and i know jewelry are whatever a cards or something so - and the amount of square footage is 4 hundred it is less than one hundred square feet if i go by the code by the abstract there is nothing left no income coming out of that and appreciate if i approve this project and i'm available to answer any questions. >> opening it up for public comment not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner antonini. >> just legalizing an existing use i move to approve. >> second. >> on that motion commissioners to approve that matter with conditions.
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>> commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and places you on item 14. >> for case take care value this is also a conditional use authorization. >> good evening commissioner president fong department staff this is a request for a conditional use authorization to commensurate and storefront into a retail and limited restaurant use the project cancel locked on terryville street and this conditional use is not including a proposal for the other store the owner is looking to find a tenant within the western portion of terryville district
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zoned mc-3 the property business will operate as a suffer shop and include a x press bar with baked goods it is necessary and desirable despite the offer concentration of the drinking and eating the facility it will increase the concentration from 63 to 64 the right increase was changed for the restaurant on terryville in march of last year the concentration there are a limited number of restaurants this presented a - subject storefront was vacant in 2012 when the project sponsor took
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over the lease the adjacent terryville has a document history of from gadget and possible illegal unit at the ground floor that will cavity and contributed to the block since the staff report was published 18 letters of support and an individually owner and operator and recommends approval it complies with the general plan that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> okay. thank you. >> project sponsor please.
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>> hello and good evening i'm sorry a eddy the property owner and project sponsor i'd like to start a by saying i've lived the outer sunset for over 11 years i'm an avid surfer i'm proposing a surfer shop on terryville street the western part of terryville between 46 and 47 avenues last week to start with a short presentation okay hard to see first looking at the beach only 3 commercial activated hubs over
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a change of the businesses, however, this has ban limited to the northern streets of noriega and relative to the amount of housing a need for businesses to serve the neighborhood especially towards the south and the beach now going down to the project site the outer terryville only four operating buzz pizza and fashionable dinner and others on the market for sale so the most neglected block i'm more the surf bar i want to note the "
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the expresso he - the area for new businesses crux boublsz and new landscaping with planting of palm trees and a park in front of the project site and to create terryville a gateway to the city move on to the project site this is a view of the commercial block from 4 avenue as you can see which is special the only commercial block with the beach with the view is unobstructed. >> not onto the actual one of
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commercial units was rent to an illegal gambling place now looking at a renovated building it is two to four iernts we've expand the backyard from studio units to one and two bedrooms and putting currently weight on the new stucco windows for sunlight. >> okay move on to the actual business the surf shop will be called avenues but a broader mess our core customers will be surfers we're targeting a wider audience
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okay. here we we look at the product mix we'll be selling surfboards and accessories and outside gear we're working on a parallel line lastly we will help focusing on the design quality materials takes precedence by placing a small coffee bar we'll be the first shop in san francisco with that gives the community a place to interact when you go there you get something and leave this will cause people to want to hang out that will be better the coffee bar will help support the retail it is heard in the outdoor
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affordable housing bonus program with limited areas and people's are forced to go to the outer part of neighborhood and last as we look at the memo items the core feed breakfast burritos and other things and we're planning for a full coffee and offering food items but you always other things that's it thank you. >>. good evening i live on terryville this conditional use application any represent
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