oftentimes sick and the doorbell ringing and the ah coming for a ride long and someone from the bureau having another rig it going on and on all day and late into the evening the workload is crushing the captain and the common theme you need additional personnel there you need additional personnel to manage that growing workforce and right now, we're leveraging rc-4 going back into the field we'll not do that without our way with the shift we told the board of sups and the mayor we need critical supervision we have some of the sickest people and a traffic

issues with stabbing and putting the captain back out into the field so we'll wait until we see what happens with station 49 let's get that patient care better and improve that secter of the city and talk about the shift we have 6 promotional jobs being held up people are studied and in is being held up but we want to hold our breath and if i can surplus ensue having worked go there the beginning and watching it grow and go sideways and so this is where i get silly it feels like lucy awe ball shoveling chocolates down her throughout trying to keep up with capacity you feel like that

at station 49 you can't keep up with the assembly line and not keep up with the chocolates going by on the assembly line thank you. next item, please. >> any more speakers for this item? okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. and commissioner vice president cleaveland >> thank you, ma'am thank you madam president and thank you, chief gonzales for our report and chief meyers for your report i appreciate the people that spoke on that matter it is an important issue that needs to get resolves i think as all of the commissioners seize this is a stuvenlg block to more fiscal process for the emergency medical teams and you know if we got to get it solved we as

commissioners are concerned hanging out there and nothing has been resolved to date i'm not sure what the negotiations of the contract can get reopened but obviously something we like all the parties to sit down in good faith and resolve i have a couple of questions one what the the cost rc-4 if we added that person to the station 49 staffing. >> what would be the cost of that person. >> the cost of. >> adding you know. >> 3.5. >> phil the rc-4 position. >> mr. corso again. >> our numbers guy again. >> i also wanted to not any cost variance if we go to a 12-hour shift at station 49 is there a cost variance is that or

is it savings or you know go cost more. >> so first question is rc-4. >> rescue captain. >> good morning mr. corso i don't remembered off the top of my head but funded for the rescue captain that was approximately within $.2 million to staff we have requested 6 which i believe was one .8 and funded for 4 personnel so. >> we're talking about $600,000 to add an additional rescue captain. >> it wouldn't be an additional twenty-four hour position so we requested it. 6 towo on duty during the day and within on night in a 12-hour capacity not adding an

additional twenty-four hour >> so what's the common practice out there in other fire departments across the country do they staff the personnel at for emergency medical services from the supervisory personnel on a deft shift rather than the rank and file ems e emts and we're doing twenty-four hours for the supervisor personnel emt services and the rank and file are working 12 housing is a customary in other departments across the country. >> it depends on the business model of the organization i mean, i, truly the private sector some operate on a twenty-four hour basis but others work on to 48 hours 72 hours and how much downtime on

that particular twenty-four hour shift for rest how does la do. >> i have information on local and it kind of thing the example m r run a 48 hours shift and average two to three hours of sleep and every third week they do 72 hours in a row i know that king america apples and oranges i mean did number 6 personnel and the units they displace evidence is much smaller they work 48 hours shifts and sleep 8 hours a night it is at a later date to the business practice from the system as a whole. >> well sense most of them 70 percent of new in any are medical emergencies that is

probably the biggest service and people work as paramedics and emts work very hard to serve the city and the citizens very well we have to find some kind of model that works for everybody have you have one existing model of twenty-four hour when the officers like is that the most effective model we obviously have a difference of opinion here but i mean, we want to have a department or certainly an emergency medical service division managed fiscally and efficiently as possible not have the station vandalize and narcotics disappear we want to have the perfect program and the service that manages as well as possible we've got to resolve

that yes, ma'am pass continue you know the officers union and the department so, i mean we as commissioners we have no power to do anything but air the issues to be push the parties together to come up with a compromise that can work and that's really all i have to say. >> commissioner vice president cleaveland. >> commissioner nakajo. >> thank you madam president and thank you, chief meyers and chief goes on for your report and members of the public that gave comment complex issue hard to understand i understand perfectly the presentation by the administration or in terms of yourself as the expandable in terms of the identifiable issues

that have been presented with a quote/unquote twenty-four hour shift and all the issues of concern the term of failing through the cracks, if you will, i also wanted to know when in supervision of with twenty-four hours for had mentioned in 2010 was talked about; right? captains twenty-four hours. >> i don't have the exact date but the twenty-four hour basis started with the h lieutenants down to station 49 the beginning. >> 2007 i'm being told. >> 2007 to get the program started in 2006. >> that's correct that is when the level two's were in the department at initially as a 12

and move forward to 24 in 2007. >> that's the question i want to ask being here for a period of time i rocket to fool this in terms of stooiks and the old evolution of paramedics and the whole decision what was the reason that we've moved from a twenty-four hour lieutenant sprifrl mist to 3 rescue captains how did that move up and at change occur. >> i'll have to defer to someone in the administration i was not here at the time quite frankly. >> sure high recollection was that moving to a twenty-four hour shift we had smaller workforce and anymore appreciated by the membership a twenty-four hour shift a obviously the 99 percent of any

department much more preferable than working a 12-hour day that was something that we agreed to do and it was in my mind sort of a band-aid solution now the clank you have so many shifts difference the firehouse the firehouse a 8 o'clock roll call and everyone on the floor and they get they're voting duties for twenty-four hour a day at stabilization a series of many mini roll call, if you will, depending on when the shifts start that is happening over and over and over and over again. >> i recollect we see the plastic bags services from the durability at one point we tried to house our paramedics the

firehouses we tried that for a period of time there were issues that came about that end result on the line of the paramedics were removed from the firehouse they were out there i remember we created station 49 i remember we created a supervisorial model and 3 lieutenants in charge i recollect the 12 hour shift i thought that i thought it best reflected what we tried it have with the limited poll and at that time the number was that 6 compared to the numbers now i recall it was shifted to twenty-four hour supervisorial shift and in ways i'll paraphrase the administration at the time was created with the recommendation to move to a twenty-four hour shift so i can

understand that from the justification of all the recording is the number of personnel we have with the ambulances coming into station 49 i can understand clearly the problems of a 24 shift and the twenty-four hour shift and dialogue i know that the suppression members are used to a twenty-four hour shift but in that model station 49 was various shifts the question i ask from the paramedics and the emts come into to start they're voting shift or get off their she thought that the supervisor is there to meet and greet and check them off and go to the dialogue i thought to myself that would be a very strenuous responsibility the question when do they sleep or are they on all

the time and the points of view sleep or not sleep trying to supervisor the whole units and again, i think you did a great job the responsibility of what a supervisor is my question the twenty-four hour shift with the various shifts come in indeed does the supervisor meet all the employees and a check and getting the narcotics from the individual that's the kind of information i want at some point based upon your description it is strenuous and the modeled might be outdated with a two years shift versus the employees with come in i hear clerical commissioner vice president cleaveland said about the accountability of the workforce

when members come in are they greeted checked off or let the supervisors know that the problems, etc. so to me in terms of i'm not saying the supervisors don't have that responsibility in the sense they take they're voting job seriously but is it humanly possible for someone as dedicated as they are to be there twenty-four hours as those members come in into the level i feel a great responsibility whether they are greeted or checked off and met with again, when it comes to the reasons asked about the twenty-four hour shift i think i hear if a a in a 12-hour shift two individuals compared to one over a twenty-four hour period twenty-four hour shifts that

remind me of issues of a stronger accountability of issues those are the kinds of things i'm trying to make sense of and trying to understand again, you have the accountability to the members that are out they're doing the services and again responsible to the rescue captains it's not an easy thing to understand we talk about the bond with the station 49 and about i know that commissioner vice president cleaveland was instrumental negative impact trying to establish is it or myself personally to have a vision for a 12-hour shift a link process without the dispute so whether they came back into station 49 i would think that supervision would be key to the rupture so that we can have continuity so again, i'm i want

to put that out there those and he wants i have a problem with clarity in terms of your report advocating for a 12-hour shift over twenty-four hours but again, some of the members of the public talking about the pros and cons of the twenty-four hour shift still skernldz about the kind of strain within the other i hear there is a recommendation of more personnel and the supervisor level he hear that but again, i'm trying to go find out as commissioner vice president cleaveland what is the best model of accountability we can have because with the workforce i think they want to have that reimbursement chief gonzales. >> commissioner nakajo respectfully we ask for 6 we have the funding for the rc-4s we said them on twenty-four hour shifts we thought the twenty-four hour shifts will be

connected and one overlap we thought we'd get the best he workload i'm not questioning the officers they're voting diagnose they're voting best but like i said, the task they're voting given there are things failing through the cracks i've told that that is his responsibility to make sure those things don't fall through the cracks he has a hard time enclosing he is holding back tasks that not getting done i visited there a few weeks ago 1 o'clock p.m. the rc-4 was in a state of achieveti exhaustion i - we ask for the 6

we're advocating for the 6 in a twenty-four hour period we can get anymore production out of two people on two 12 shifts than within on a twenty-four hour shift it is basic. >> it's a little bit my name is there are issues of membership that are part of this as they really in one of my previous questions what is your opinion you're looking for a supervisor or this model of twenty-four hour working or all i know is that there will be a new station stabilization if we can be successful with the personnel with the division it certainly has grown

we're all on the same page in terms of improving the system but it is frustrating to sit here and listen to pros and cons of why we can't say be stuck between a rock and a hard place so we will sit with a twenty-four hour shift or some administrative decision to be made within that because of non-support of the rescue captains association are we sitting here in limbo lands i want to know what the next process is or we'll be visiting that time and time again can i have comment. >> certainly we have continued to engage the bargaining units on the importance of a bargaining model that is a schedule that mirrors people i know we have a comment but i'd

like this staff to address some of the things you're asking about i'm being told when members who work 12 hours are coming out at two or three or 4 they don't have the interaction with the supervisors they deserve that that is one of the biggest things when you end you are shift at 4 in the afternoon or four in the morning you should have the same level of support to check off with narcotics yes, we can improve with the utopia and all kinds of money squeal have more supervision or supervision i hear about technology and machines in hospital that's a good idea can what we do something with a bar code i say yes and no no human supervisor interaction could be even equal

to a machine someone coming in at 4 in other morning they find out the narcotics away we don't want to encourage that where there is less interaction human interaction we can have a machine do a lot of things but the model we have during the day should be the same model during the late night that's what we're saying we'll continue to break through that i know that deputy chief operations has gone a good job i know commissioner vice president cleaveland you asked that placed on the agenda not a difficult issue to talk about but difficult in general what i'm looking for is direction like i said i feel moving forward to continue something that works when it was 1/3rd in terms of the operation

is not efficient it is unsafe and i'm irresponsible if i perpetuate that and not only from my paramedics i've talked with them not to the rescue captain twenty-four hour shift a coveted shift that is a third rally have a department to run we need to keep over members and public safe this is an issue i'd like to get more direction as question move forward we wanted to continue to be the best department this is an area absent the golden parachute of funning we need the dollars we've been provided. >> thank you, again chief joanne hayes-white so i'm clear chief gonzales i know the budgetary asked for of

additional folks in that formula; is that correct. >> that's right. >> we were denied that. >> correct. >> so therefore no alternative but to come up with another model to address those issues that's the way i look at it. >> that's correct. >> it's troubling to started this meeting with a report on ems 6 but we know that is tied into 9-1-1 and over workforce and tied into the supervisors as well it's difficult to hear all these issues in our delivery of service coming out our own time tropt the public, making sure the vehicles are operating those are all responsibilities and also, we can't talk about a model like an ems 6 judgment if we can't be responsible for basic issues the drugs are missing or vehicles are not

properly stored i think we've come a long way when we start and again for the recognition of history when we inherited this service from the huthd we if have support it created it service with the fire department so therefore we request the budgetary for vehicles and put the press about the shortage of our response time i want to make sure we're responsible and account so big if there is any directive chief joanne hayes-white and members of the department we'll have to resolve this issue and make sure our public is out there getting the best services they can thank you very much at this time chief gonzales. >> thank you, commissioner. >> thank you commissioner nakajo and commissioner hardeman you. >> thank you madam president

thanks for reporting and each and every speaker knows what they're talking about every each and every person is a leader in the fire department our commissioner vice president cleaveland should say this came down i was concerned be it would come forward but the commission would have nothing to act on because of the nature of the new york city noshgs /* noshgsz negotiations and i'm sure the chief will say the money will endorse that i'd like to see that happy i'm sure every commissioner and officer would outside of that i'll give you the comment that i hope

something will come back at some point the commission didn't have to approve that staff and all the labor organizations and leadership i've been through this before in issuing contracts that as very, very complex situation not easy everyone is saying what we think is right. i commend everybody and doing the terrific reports and good argument so thank you. >> thank you, commissioner i'll continue to sit down with the president to make recommendations to the chief if we can come up with something that will resolution to this issue. >> okay. thank you everyone i have many, many questions regarding this topic however, the hour is late this

meeting ends at noon and for the are purposes of transparency and keeping our fellow citizens of san francisco apprised of what is going on we need to get to the chiefs report before we run out of times one suggestion i will make in terms of finding the direction to do an actual survey the members of stooiks regarding this issue we need input from every single person they should have the opportunity to express in their opinion and desires regarding this so with we have numbers to move to twenty-four hour or 12 hours with the captain. >> and it should be all

inclusive of everyone at 49 thank you all i'm sure that will be on the agendas fairly soon. >> thank you madam president. >> thank you. >> all right. >> madam secretary can you please call the next item. >> >> item 7 the chief the departments report. >> thank you on current issues activities and events within the department since the fire commission february 2016 including fiscal year 2016-2017 budget and staffing changes strategic planning, one hundred 50 anniversary including the contest and special fence and outreach to other agencies and the public and report if operations including greater alarms and working for medical

services the bureau of fire preservation and investigation and the airport division. >> thank you chief joanne hayes-white. >> thank you commissioner president covington and good morning this is my rights i would to take the opportunity to congratulate and appreciate the reappointments of commissioner hardeman and others and commissioner president covington and commissioner vice president cleaveland we were able to join you in the re-election program i think the mayor made a wise decision looking forward to working with you regarding the budget as you may know this was submitted on february 22nd and we were will continue to have ongoing decisions with the mayor's office i confirmed a

budget committee meeting we've been waiting to her budget committee with the director kate howard will be march 25 i believe at the 10:00 a.m. mrooek will be sending an e-mail to the budget committee members will be similar to the voicing our what will be our priorities so reporting to ms. howard's and budget relate while continue to work on the 2016 june 2016 bond and a reminder $350 million which 58 millions is earmarked for if the fire department and for the ems facility that will be constructed the rear of station 9 property and other $14 million for continues

projects that the 2010 and 2014 have been addressing percentage related to staffing changes he's been patient i think he is the back of room i'll call firefighter keith to describe his position that is evolving and in my selection as coordinator give you a little bit of background about the times at the department keith. >> thank you. good morning commissioner as chief joanne hayes-white stated i'm keith i'm familiar with all of you and congratulations to our reappointment i've been in the department for 20 years i started approximately 20 years and started my career at station 18 that was a lot of fun and enjoyed that and moved on to station 6 as emt and as a

operator centering time there and after station 6 i moved ton to station 21 where i was is apparatus operator for a few years brother beginning this position as recruiting coordinator i have had a lot of recruits come and talk to me and be able to taenldz any informational sessions before i get into that i want to let you know unfortunately, the numbers on the committee had to leave due to the fact they need to get back to their company or they were a couple here on they're off time it is comprised of chief directs us i report to him at that

division of training i work at the hearing aids and also chief nicole acting captain and lieutenant, pi o john baxter and inspector scathikathleen and ot along with the recruiting efforts d h.r. has been a tremendous help in establishing the resources and helping with the overall recruiting efforts they've provided us with brochures and also provided us with information flyers i have a copy if you want to see that in

the interest of time i'm sure i'll get that to you if you want to see that i'm excited to be ♪ room and like i said several recruits have come to 45erdz or met them at session and they have questions that involve the process in particular we currently have monthly meetings that are scheduled the third theirs of every month the recruitment committee meets in the morning and our regularly scheduled scare inform sessions are held the same day 6:30 to 8 our overall goal to reach out to recruits and provide support through the process and recently

he sent chief williams an explanation from the - includes 16 individuals and groups gaining insight to the application process for the entry-level position to gather living from many sources for example, any sproirlz and with the job and so forth theoretically anyone interested in reaching you did to the recruitment coordinator can do so by contracting me any contact information has been adam to our website i've received calls and meeting someone this afternoon >> i'm currently analyzing several report related to the composition of our applicants

some you might be familiar with on various back states and demographics think folks that are currently applying i'm also meeting with employees assistants groups i'm sorry employee groups such as the black firefighters i've met with president kevin smith and also met with the president local 798 president tom o'connor to get ideas on the improvement of the recruiting process. >> i'm currently schedule the team is currently schedule to attend events at mission high school and attends two diversity fairs not only the city but one in the east bay we are trying to cooperate a volunteer at galileo high school that is still in the process

i'm going to meet with the u s w on the 22 to get an idea telling him about the recruitment coordinator we're also in talks with the ems division regarded the recruitment of your caribbean or h-8 those talks with ongoing of course, your recruitment efforts to reach out to protect the classes that modesty not have access to the job like females that are interested in looefrp more about the department and this job, however, as the chair of the sf circus your lgbtq organization we kind of hit a roadblock with those numbers and currently constructed in our administrative code we're not

allotted to ask folks they're voting sexual orientation this agency an outside mooted policy i believe that is important to have angle idea of your department and in those terms and so to speak with supervisor wiener and also spoken with assembly member chiu about the legislation that was as i understand by the governor allowing the folks to dloef that voluntarily currently nothing we can do locally but like to see it come to fruition in conclusion i'm excited about this division and enjoy immensely meeting the recruits and helping them navigate the some system is rewarding i'm

looking forward to insure argue recruits have the mean to assess information about process again my contact information is on the website and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> that you have at this time. >> thank you welcome. >> excuse me. commissioner vice president cleaveland. >> did you want to do public comment no? that. >> thank you it is pleasure to welcome you as our program coordinator keith i've been working on the political club locally i'm aware of your talents so congratulations. >> thank you. >> a couple of questions have you composed a list of organizations i'll reach out to and your committee to reach out it operationally is that a list

that will change and grow and something you can schaffer share so we may offer other organizations. >> sure other than the employee groups i've imaginations i think we talked about events around the city it involve are marathons we're talking about doing the sunday's streets events in terms of reaching ousted in terms of resources or trying to find out more from other organizations i'll be more than happy to get those i'm taking all the suggests i've been the position since february 1st and come piling a less so, please if you have mount other suggestions i'd like to hear those. >> on the recruitment commissioner lee have you examples of all groups i wouldn't say all but the majority of them. >> it is important to have.

>> in terms of that survey with the lgbtq members of the department is that something you can do working with the chief to get this out i've been obviously this the volunteer o i didn't so you'll have a better ideas of lgbt population. >> that wear willing to report. >> don't believe you've been permitted to ask commissioner vice president cleaveland i think that i'm prevented by asking so i don't know that is possible but i'm working towards getting that permission and like i say i'm working with supervisor wiener's office he has a measure or some legislation coming forth that is related to seniors and asking

some of them or that population some of the seam questions he was talking about piggybacking on this but we move forward with that there are discussions with the city attorney's office and to some degree those conversations are stalled but i've recently met with like i said supervisor wiener and he stated there still working on it at this time i can't ask anyone but interested in doing so. >> i agree the policy is outdated thank you. >> chief joanne. >> if i can add i know that sxheld is talking an issue but commissioner forgo the human rights commission teresa sparks i believe westbound of the other things that keep once he gets settled and off to a good start

we've talked about keith reaching out to teresa perhaps a survey by the human rights commission because keith is going absolutely right for the h.r. and city attorney's office it is not a survey that we are allowed to do at this time but throughout the human rights commission in conjunction with our department anticipate sheriff's department and police departments have dlaertd to do that. >> i met about teresa sparks with the director of h.r. she couldn't do it we're trying to seek other avenues we had the opportunity to meet okay. thank you. >> commissioner excuse me. commissioner vice president cleaveland. >> commissioner hardeman. >> madam president i wanted to welcome you i wanted to offer to you apply resources to the asian pacific islanders community i'll

be happy to meet with you it is a large coalition of api in san francisco bay area vicinity i could offer congratulations and look forward 0 your reporting thank you. >> thank you commissioner hardeman. >> welcome thank you. >> thank you. >> ditto. >> it's good to see you. >> it's good to be here and chief joanne hayes-white the rest of your report. >> thank you very much sure move on regarding academies one and 19 academy is in session we believe in the 7 week a total of 43 numbers during the ems session we replaced 2 recruits

we brought up to 44 since the last meeting a resolution due to an injury we're at 43 on february 26, '13 ah emts we transitioned to full-time employment they're off to a good start and the process of establishing dates for we call the promotional opportunity for h-3 level with paramedic licenses to become a paramedic for a department of level 2 we are the prosecutes of selecting approximately 32 members for april 25th h-3 level within academy it is emt full-time employment and the early stages although no interviews have taken place of getting ready to look at the one and 20 academy i

will ask for the most recently jumped list i belive we'll get it the middle of that most and use that list recognizing that we know the number for the last process that have gone through the background we'll be utilizing the list. certainly the october academy related to the one and 50 celebration as you may know the kickoff celebration a soft start an april 15th and the official kickoff is the 15 and the fence are planned through december 3rd in the interest of time i was going to list those but the i think website is updated i know that the commissioners are interested as you may know receiving a new fire boat if you

hear about may 31st a host of things before we put that into service we're coming up when the commissioning date working with with the members of station 35 one of the things that we will be doing having a naming contest of the fire boat through the stoplights k through 8 whether it is private schools they'll thank you for the opportunity to participate in a naming contest that will run from april 18th through may 18 and we're also the process of finally listing a panel to select the names i've not poling to commissioner president covington we would last week to have one member from the fire commission on that panel and what has been passed

out to you for each student that wants to participate and we did have a meeting on the trying subcommittees are meeting and reconvening on march 31st and everyone that is handling a subcommittee is off to a good start and has they're voting work cut out for them and again ranging from the start in april 18th to one thing i think will be one of many very exciting the co-chairs are dave from the democrat and chief franklin is doing a wonderful job a speakers panel consisting of myself and others chief tobacco and evans and others and in addition wale have people that know this department very well including steve his 21st

year and others will be on the panel on the fourth a fwree events and public library we'll also have events take place in august related to the reserve celebrating 75 years and have 9/11 remembered ceremonies and he ems week in may and fire preservation in may and heading up a festival in november and finally we'll have sort of a closed down big celebration noting the one and 50 anniversary on december thirds more to follow on that quickly what all the events with highlighted for you with regards to strategic planning that came before the

one and 60 we meet and we'll meet on march 28 the goal on the 28 to have all the subcommittee reports synthesize for review with a format the working draft conveyed to the commission that work is moving forward last week to thank all the community members that put in a lot of time on that special events the st. patrick's events if you're interested on second street and market street two things relate to the communication and outreach to other agencies and the public and this came from our public information anthony he wanted to let everyone know that in conjunction with the department of emergency services pg&e 311

and alert sf and dpw will work together to go refine the guidelines for informing the public about the enters in a shelter in place or an excavations order and where to go and how to prepare for those incidents and you know obviously better coming if multiple agencies sending the same message and acknowledge station 48 and over baxter treasure island provided a barbecue and assist for over 3 hours with shipshape during the black history month all members were present and assisted and the origin request that was to provide firefighting materials so they went above and beyond

the call of duty to make treasure island feel that the sfpd we are community partners and want to work together that concludes my report >> thank you chief joanne hayes-white just a couple of for the purpose questions can you announce how much money has been of donateed to the one and having celebration. >> we've raised approximately $450,000 to put on all the fence so very proud to report we have very good public partners and very supportive of our events we hope to raise more than that that's what i'm confident we've raised. >> very good congratulations a great effort was made and they have been great results so i

wanted to make sure that you announce that i also wondered about oh, do any fellow commissioners have any questions okay yes. well inc. we're under such time constraints at the morning meeting so alright well, my final question chief what all the information of the one and 50 go out to the rank and file. >> so there's a website that's been populated we refer everybody to the website keep checking certainly lease within month prior to the april 18th activities we'll refer them the website is one and 50th we'll remind every one of that.

>> thank you. >> any last comments anything? all right. congratulations to my fellow commissioners commissioner hardeman and commissioner nakajo again on the swearing in great it. see you guys raise your hands and pledge again all right. madam secretary >> excuse me. commissioner president covington i think he can do a brief summary with deputy chief gonzales with his report. >> i'm wondering if we shouldn't do both reports next time when we're not so constrained by time but we have a right in hand, yes. >> okay so, yes we'll review it the meantime as commissioners but really perhaps have limb

present. >> operations under and admin as a possibility. >> thank you for the reminder chief per madam secretary item 8. >> communications addressed to the commissions received since last meeting a letter from the citizens advisory committee dated 3, 3, 16. >> we've all received that any public comment? on communications? to the commission he seeing none, public comment is closed. i'm not sure if you called public comment on the chiefs report >> i don't believe i did. >> is there any members of the public would like to comment on the chiefs report. >> seeing none, public comment is closed on that. >> temp 9. >> agenda for the next commission discussion for the

agendas for the next regular meeting. >> commissioners any preying issues i'd like to see on that agenda all right. well this president and the department in communication with the chief will develop that agenda anything else any further business all right. >> wish the chief happen st. patrick's to 25 percent the audience that has relishing and he was thinking you know everyone is relishing for a day on st. patrick's we should do chinese new year so happy st. patrick's thank you commissioner hardeman we're hereby

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what am i leaving out call the roll commissioner frost commissioner lee supervisor thomas and commissioner caminong and commissioner joseph for the record commissioner president tan is out of town and commissioner perez i don't know we haven't heard anything. >> first order of business all to welcome to the commission lauren thomas as our new public health representative let's get 80 this meeting rocking and rolling number one is general public comment this is the time the public has a chance to comment on items of interest to this commission that are not on the agenda. >> is any public comment? seeing none, public comment is

closed. and item 2 approval of the minutes i'd like to i'd like to entertain a motion a motion to continue we don't have sufficient votes to perform to vote on the minutes. >> somebody. >> i'll make the motion to continue to the next meeting. >> there is a motion and a second is there public comment about continuing the minutes seeing none, public comment is closed. call the roll >> commissioner caminong this is on the motion to continue the minutes commission thomas. >> commissioner lee sfrauft commissioner joseph. >> okay item number 3 on the agenda headlight item number 3 the report from the executive director jocelyn you're up. >> all right. i'll be brief last night what the 90 awards we're all fairly tired

i wanted to mention just fleeting discussion of the 2016 summit submit we are considering dates right now in the latter end of the year if you're new to the commission we do an annual submit for permit holder and folks interested in the this taken place comments sometime in octoberish at this point and i would love you guys not this minute but look at our fall skerldz so see what might work and through by e-mail at me ideas for this go tops we've done many things the last year included more of the residents development work as well as a presentation from the new york

city on sexual assault prevention and some kind of highlight of new information we look forward to as around where we are in terms of the residential development to this point and maybe legacy businesses you know some think about that and send an e-mail that would be great we had a fairly extensive meeting with folks if the controller's office on a one-stop shop permit center called i didn't hand this out because it is a lot of information the controller's office is working towards creating a new city offers gown at where the goodwill site of development is at 15 hundred mythical observing a long time before that will be

built but the plans are in play and there's a vision for one-stop shop permit that listed 99 and so what i mean not online but literally a one-stop shop permit center that excludes ever needs for 6 plays of building permit construction permits through business operations and possible special events and cashiers and for the purposes of having everyone in one place so we are invited reluctance to be part of task force because we do what is considered like a business operation kind of permit and then observing we're involved with special events permitting as well so we are i'll keep the

commission apprised we're interested in that sort of hold the special event aspect for some time because those other you know issues are tougher to tackle with and the intention to move planning to this location as well the whole operation so in addition because there is very big huge building so all the offices will be in one place a big project i'll keep the commission up to date and i'll answer questions i'm able to answer i have a little bit of information blue pretty early on here i'll give you this for the visuals. >> so that's that and i handed out this sort of 3

pageers the 116 online information it is not the most gorgeous but basically a it screen shot, if you will, of what the link on our website relative to the disclosures that are required via chapter one 16 for anything obviously getting built this took a long time we didn't have to pay for this i'm proud of that every person that moves into one building win three hundred feet has to sign a disclosures and the people that are renting and selling it have to give them the disclosures and sign an affidavit a lot of in and out we needed a way for twenty-four hours so this stuff to happen any time we created a

form we vetoed it to the city attorney there the language and in a week or two to have those folks from that landlord side take into account this so it is intuitive enough for people to use it a little bit anyone done but this will end up with the back end basically like a spreadsheet that is searchable if we get a complaint we'll search before i address or name or figure out if someone didn't get this notice there is enforcement actions so 9 back end is a database that is the most important thing for me has this guarantee goes from year to year it when build up hefty but

this will like spin-off if our website and i'll get more input as we go my sense we don't know if it works great or if it is work but i think it is fairly simple there's that you've already introduced the commission that was my intention but i beat me to it welcome commission thomas and as far as corrective actions we'll discuss that i'm going to turn it over to shawn. >> thank you director cain good evening commissioners just a few items to note you may or may not noticed that 3 different entries on any notes have the same address my eagles

a little bit of cut-and-paste is incorrect the first listing the 3 m has a proper address and but all 3 of these know they're in the mission i think the most important item on the list the regular detergentcy ball regime we've gotten complaints for the first time from the east to complex across sutter street if the regular gunmency upon the first listings i assume due to the cultivation of the smaller place under the ball park we've got heavy base coming from the main

room at the regular gunmency so we' two i think we should get resolution this mr. have upgrades and ballroom and market across the street one has the ongoing i'm working with sfpd and public health to try to get to a permanent stop people playing on the street an electrical out let and serving many neighbors i issued a citation for violations of good neighbor policy to 7 and 8 to the cafe and that was after text and phone warnings and

conversation all warnings i plan on having a meeting with the staff in a couple of weeks. >> and everything else pretty run-of-the-mill if you have any questions. >> question quick question. >> yes, sir. >> there was 3 same address; right? >> right. >> he just corrected that. >> oh. >> yeah. that's a. >> you got to listen. >> i can only do one thing at a time. >> it's on other. >> oh. >> yeah. but those are around pretty close to that - >> area are they the same people complaining. >> no one is sort of on on and off

kind of thing people complained some are charging a cover i have not seen it. >> a question on the break. >> so are those guys outside and oh, we want them to - them to stop having access to the contribute. >> that's a development yeah. >> we want commission the help of the sfpd for the street performer to move along because the residents above the restaurant are very, very bothered and it is very late into the night we're not talking about 9 or technology but two or three in the morning that's what we really want this is very challenging obviously the first thing we can do is go after the amount indication and the othpl

part. >> inspector pauley. >> several items to report to you about new complaint and 84 the noise complaint from the hotel next to the campus hotel issues around noisy smokers and just planners conjugating the additional i did notice two large groups won their line is really busy and the smoking section which is which when i was there formed a

across the additional is narrow alley i mentioned i was concerned about that to the head of security at that time, i went by there and did an inspection i was by this weekend but asked about a party i haven't heard any compliments i didn't make a big deal but nevertheless, we received a complaint it was forwarded to us from officer my hat's off i'll go by thursday and take time to see if we can't solve it and a similar with barbara rosa loufrng i went by new year's i didn't know if it was the same operator when i talked to the operator the week after the first week of january they said they are were not

doing a lot of entertainment they were going to do a lounge situation that changed they have been doing entertainment and a neighbor on the other side of the brick wall getting a lot of noise complaint i haven't had an opportunity to talk with the management again since i got the complaint i want to first go to the residential unit and probably happen this weekend and emigrate on idea before i do anything and we'll go from there so pending this weekend his night club another containment from sfpd from officer mathis - it's a

reoccurring issue they'll have to need to get under control so i'll be by there this weekend to talk about it and move towards a resolution a couple of compliance first off 125 mission street i talked about with the management about the complaint and, of course, i mentioned the last couple of hearings i've been by and a lot of the containment railroad overexaggerated but i got on e-mail from the complainant that shares the wall with the venue and he had a video of a sound test he took they were exceeding their rating or whatever exceeding the codes he forget which code but nevertheless, i talked with management and went

by there with commission lee we saw there they were keeping the side door open to a room where the wall is they shared nevertheless, they need to keep the door shut and go from there if they can solve it themselves but director cain talked about that another issue with irish pub i was able to track down the owner with the help of sfpd i called the owner and talked about the issues he's having he explained to me as far as keeping things picked up and people have been drinking i recommended to him was you know shoe the people

towards montgomery and washington there is less residential down there as opposed to 120 beyond a shadow of a doubt up the street a good place for ubers and taxis to pick up they're basically empty on washington street during that time of night so it looked fine no complaint and fusion lounges a couple of things i've seen super bowl weekend where they had you know probably over booked parties it was an issue i ant to talk with management about but they fired the manager that was under and hired somebody new so i forget traifz last name but the manager of magical a capable manager i think those issues are fine for

now i'll follow-up and go from there and holly cows it was one street over super bowl weekend the issues was resolved it was a busy party i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> i have one question does love in propaganda do they have a migrant occupancy or limit in the smoking section how many people can be out there an would the time. >> i don't think so. >> how many people were there. >> probably around 20, 25. >> and that narrow alley they can certainly impose is it a barricade or smoking section. >> the smoking section is not barricade. >> maybe they should do that and maximum occupancy. >> honestly, i feel they can

move people down the street and get them out of the alley altogether not that further of a walk around the corner and retail there i feel like. >> under a hundred feet from the door. >> it is approaching one hundred feet. >> a common area out of their control. >> they feel or otherwise well-behaved it is a lot of women hanging out there. >> okay. thank you. >> but the guy is having his own equipment and sound test and . >> i was explaining i've been by and not found compliance it will be hard to keep on coming but when you request so he should you know definitely at least have something to show me it is hard to go on his word to for

compliance issues we bought one meter that is code compliant and taking video and taken sound test so it is hard to august if there were a couple of negligence that were loud so - >> does we have a phone number because they leave the door open or - >> they have other issues going on between the venue and like the neighborhood or the building owner some other stuff go on and so i try not to get two deep into that i try to enforce whatever you know the issues i tried to solve that with that said, they talked but you know bodies feel like the other side is unremarkable so it

is pretty well contentious issue. >> when i went to the backroom it is pretty dense and the backdoor is open when you get closer to the door your ear - then when he went to the back alley so we can only do what we can do. >> the sound test was clear as they keep the side door shut is it so fine but the particular time it was busy and they were not paying attention at all the door was open so i think the change of management you know some issues there but i talked like i said, i talked to the owner and give me the managers number i'll talk to the him or probably talk to the manager anyway. >> do you if this guy's sound

is calibrated. >> i'll not take that and write a citation but you know it is not likes threshold loud clearly louder way louder. >> the one thing i didn't say keep this door closes signage. >> they prop it on the other hand, open to get supplies out to and forget to shut it. >> probably something around the the bar areas i'll talk to him about that and on the hue is that the alley the condo from the back of the alley. >> so using that side door for smoking. >> they didn't have issues with the atmosphere they had

people in front smoking and not many on the side by the way, the sidewalks. >> i remember there was fights they stopped that. >> the previous owner were getting complaints because of the door and that's why they went to the front. >> the owner is the same owner he was the same owner. >> i mean with zebra lounge was there. >> i suggest i think officer migrating and a he has more knowing any more questions for the sound inspections any public comment on the director's report there seeing none, public comment is closed item number 4. >> police department questions or comments. >> hello officer migratiathis

and propaganda is they're new name but the same issues they do the remodel for the propaganda and they're getting the complaints in the hotel i contacted looking at inspector pauleys ideas as far as to reduce the noise i think we're on the same page i'm going to briefing read a quick e-mail i soent to the manager at vessel danny i've been cracked by the hotel about the noise from the establishment it appears the same issues are coming back you're from the alley and the

smoking is creating a noise issue as a result, the hotel will discount rooms because of these disturbed and upset guests the hotel is getting bad reviews and this is the hotel industry effective immediately please have the guests off mission street i don't want our patrons to congregate the street but guide our patrons to stockton street that are for the security issues and motivating the patrons to go to stockton street and relieve the alley i think if we move them up to strongly street get rid of of the noise and the crowds 25 people 1340ik underneath the windows of hotel or the street which is the at

closing time and trying to get phone numbers warrior where they'll go next creates a big problem you have the hotel right there paying top dollars whether or not they are paying top dollars they're staying in san francisco and for them to be disturbed is not acceptable we want them to follow the good neighbor policy and not abort the neighbors the hotel should not think losing money with prior conversations with the general manager she said they refunded tens of thousands of dollars i think what i'd like to do so if this works and come up with anything that the commission can recommend just to tweak this so they can operate and not disturb the patrons. >> my only concern about that is more it could be more than a hundred feet from the door and

under the good neighbor policy all we're responsible to say one hundred feet and so, i mean unless they were willing to sign on and - i don't know how to solve that problem maybe something the staff should ask the city attorney about can they sign something to be willing to do one and 50 feet or more once they send them away beyond one hundred feet they're not responsible for them anymore. >> we have the problem every weekend inside the hundred feet every single weekend if we get them to thin out and they'll keep on going get to stockton street there is car traffic

you'll not have the noise that goes into the walls it will be in front of the hotel a much bigger street. >> have you gotten response to our e-mail. >> not yet i put it out there today. >> i wonder what was said. >> background family extensive conversations and meetings with the hotel and the operators of the love and propaganda about this problem this is guilty or not guilty for years not new and just to say we're shut down and then reopted it x baited the problem they knew that was especially frustrating for me so this is now again, the same issue it was k3e79d it was anticipated, and yet no change

and we went down the road of discussing what the hotel can do inside the rooms in particular that are effected what can the club do assisting the hotel address nothing has changed now i'm beyond mad just so you know. >> is this a non-smoking venue. >> i'll ask the attorney. >> about the hundred feet. >> the point is nothing changed and now we're at square one again, it is not pretty. >> the owner of the club they said to can go beyond their own; right? >> we're not requiring them to. >> that would be great if they sent us something inform e-mail we're willing to proposal beyond the hundred feet. >> i have a question as far as that goes i don't know the boundary line but from the exterior of that building is part of club goes in closer to

that your hundred foot line will be extended towards stockton street yes on the entrance that door over one hundred feet but the building line. >> for the question for the city attorney i don't know i'm not a lawyer but - >> point of clarity it is less than one hundred feet about 50 feet. >> is it that's fine. >> i was trying to picture it in my head and so - >> keep going. >> the second one the noise issue that was previous atmosphere and this was an e-mail i sent off today, i recently received a series of noise complaint and i'm from the board of supervisors your neighbors have exclaimed about noise emitting from our club the noise issues are x baited by the

smoking in the alley one of the neighbors said your music is too loud when those alley doors are open your 3 unit building is pounded with noise and on thursday i asked him to keep the doors closed and when the but the owner refused to speak with me and the security staff did nothing i want you to downloading do you believe your effort to remove the barriers and your neighbors have exclaimed of the noise the alley after the business is closed and please be in compliance with the northern california and lastly midnight shift sergeant had to respond to the area in front of our venue because of drunk people getting into fight i'll caution you as far as the owners

to check the thinking intoxicated individual and keep the sidewalks clear. >> so a question so that side alley was not useful it is was the front in their not complaining then awning that's an issue and thought that would be less problems if they could put it the alleyway but it has caused problems we're quickly getting oversee complaints too it is not accounting we'll not - to core edge off it is not your property it is hard. >> commissioners any other

questions all right. >> next item on the agenda hearing and possible action for existing permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. >> item number a paul and deanna doing business as the seller of 85 sutter street. >> commission we had this only a previous agenda we were requested by the police and the operators to push this in today so we're discussing this i want to be clear on since an incident it took place flo i don't know now, maybe late january i think this was it had serious

consequences and end in someone's death the club has been closed it was on one more time during the weekend and was shut the two people who are listed on the agenda are no longer involved in the business the third partner the business owns the lease to business the longer lease his name a steve good idea man operated the venue before the two folks came into the picture and again, he is the lease holder he remains he has been working with us and the police department abc liaison unit as well as central station to sort of decide where

to go from here he sent on e-mail last thursday to the office basically temporarily surrendering his entertainment permit for the location on sutter street indicating that to those two people are not involved the business and he would agree to because he didn't know now yet what he'll do with respect to the location we told you the central station but trying to come up with a business model and other partners or you know an entirely whatever scenario he agreed that before he want reactuate or give the treatment permit he'll come before the commission and present the new form and

whomever is involved and the police department is in concert with that so i expect this will take a few months if not longer there maybe pending abc action not really sure i know that director or sergeant. >> lieutenant sorry he's out of town so if i want to follow up on that we'll have to wait until he gets back. >> bottom line with respect to the safety concerns and the police and the neighbors this location is out of operation and my extension that it will not come back into operation until it comes before this body. >> it sounded like a great plan we'll hear from folks - officer mathis.

>> yes. we're doing this together in concert just for technical so the technical purposes of what is on the agenda together you know they'll be - i'll ask you to make a motion to have that motion and if you have my questions i'll ask that we've moved and passed the negative actions and the folks that operated are gone so we look forward and talk about what you might consider and maybe the officers will ask you to consider what partitioned may work better at that location. >> okay steve we've meet with the are entertainment staff as well as mr. good idea man and central station are our public

safety concerns the license has been turned in and central station are satisfied with that and look forward to working with mr. good idea mman i'll ask is last places the seller didn't work i'm not going to rehash all the things that happened but look forward to working at the business plan and have it vetted by everyone on the commission. >> thank you. >> questions for officer mathis. >> they turned in their license what do they do to get it back. >> the abc separate from a different violations that apart it is the abc office and upon them going to the abc office it

will be automatically restated not suspended. >> it's surrendered called a temporary surrendered up to i don't know it used to be like thirty days i don't know how long it is now kind of put it on the shelf and wait until he's ready you have to operate at least one day a month i believe and if you can't if you're remodeling or a fire or something you have the option it is a piece of real property it is an option of surrounding that license for a period of time and then renew that surrender once or twice something like that. >> yeah. this license has been surrendered and the entertainment permit was turned if and the agreement with the entertainment commission and staff and mr. goodman was that there will be discussion with

the commission as far as what kind of plans they were having brother it was reinstated and. >> he can't open the door and just be a bar he's closed unless he wants to open up as a sign shop or something. >> anybody else. >> i guess i have questions in terms of - what types of actions have the entertainment commission requested in the past in similar situations what are the types of can any conditions in a legal sense by what types of determine have you asked of people in these situations. >> i think this situation is just for a second this situation is not something we can ask for

conditions on the permits have surrounded so this is going forward comes to us with a plan and . >> not if you typically this is what i'm describing is the best case scenario i think when we have you know problems that

capacity to a point we don't take that we reconditioned this particular permit many times this is the back story so this just came to a head the worst way possibly something that was unfortunate and though the operators or one of the operators responsible of all of them decided to do what sounds like dramatic and substantial like you know a burden financing, of course, but to start over so normally you might have conversations around hours and security the regular kind of issues alu you're trying to permit it is in this case not necessary we'll might come back with a permanent application or not depends on what the direction you know the operator decides to go in in the

meanwhile we feel very confident the neighborhood that nothing bad can happen nothing can. >> so the permit is not revoked it is not suspended it is surrendered he voluntarily surrendered it we haven't take action does make sense. >> any other questions thank you. >> you want to hear. >> i'd like to hear from the owner if he's here and get his feedback. >> okay. >> sure come on up i don't know what he'll tell you the officer said he hadn't got a plan it is just closed mr. goodman you're up. >> thank you after the incident that occurred

i voluntarily the next week we opposed one night the abc came in and some issues next morning i voluntarily shut down and a few days later i surrounded the abc license and certainly want to run a business or have a partner that is cropping with the public authorities roadway i'm pursuing every option selling the business to a responsible party or partnering with someone reopenly it myself i intend on keeping it closed until i determine the best way to move forward i've had a 25 year lease on the space that is important to me that we bring in a business that will be there for quite sometime. >> so the other partners you

had after all this was sorrowed severed the other partner is out. >> something a 25 year lease is a long time i'm confused. >> i didn't have gray hair when i started. >> i was going to say. >> do you have anything future in the relevant. >> i will hear from him and i am available if you want to meet. >> we got calls from the academy and stories your neighbors probably looking forward to something new. >> they are and i've working closely with the academy the past as well i'm a very good i have good relationships with the help and others clubs.

>> so fine. >> any other questions thank you, mr. good idea machine a man. >> this is not an action item; is that correct. >> it is listed as an action item yeah. it say is an action item i think the action i would ask the commission is to make a motion i guess you know to accept the temporary surrender. >> can we taken a motion to accept the - >> this is hard to word make a motion to accept the surrender and give the mr. president, the permit holder as much time and necessary and when he's prepared with a new plan to come back to

the commission for recultivation of this permit how so that sound yeah can something missouri. >> so moved. >> great so moved. >> second. >> there is a motion and a second any furthers discussion? public comment call the roll. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commission thomas commissioner caminong commissioner joseph. >> thank you very much good luck to you moving on item number 6 hearing and possible action for applications for permit under the jurisdiction of this commission item a >> oh, where am i i have not done this in so long maggie unfortunately had to attend to family issues so i think i can handle it. >> back again.

>> this is an application for extend hours for pizza located on 19th avenue way out there the synopsis is this is coming as compliance and as you may know a late night pizza particularly if 11:00 a.m. 6:00 a.m. daily and terryville station approved the permit for the conditions are met and the owner are here come on up. >> and i think we are represents from the police department as well. >> good evening, commissioners i'm stefan i've been privileged to introduce the owner of pizza on 19th avenue and in addition

go james roads the security guy give you a little bit of background about a year ago mr. jabbinger on his own free will prayed for a conditional use permit for extended hours from 2:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. shortly i'll say february of this month we were able to get to the planning commission to unanimously support the usage from 2:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. we were able to get into the community where we talked to the pops organization that is people on the park see overwhelm support and reached it out the outer sunset group that comprised of businesses and residents their overwhelm supportive and a good communication with the park side

police department officer ma glove and accept the conditions we discussed one condition we'll designate staff security starting at one a.m. and continues to 20 minutes past closings we're asking you to approve your extended hours with the conditions from the pd. >> and we're open for questions. >> questions commissioners? >> yeah. one thing that caught my eye only 10 people 10 customers arriving by cars. >> yeah. it serves the neighborhood most people will do take out and come in and pick up a slice or two and some people stay but it is kind of a moving o bruce business he's been there for 14 years. >> i think that a lot of

people during that time will be driving up and running in and getting their pizza and drive away. >> yeah. some people call in ahead of time it is ready when they arrive. >> if you. >> yes. he does. >> is only parking is on 19th avenue right. >> all the cars that come in. >> yeah. there is a school next door park side is gated no parking let's see in the space that schools runs from 7:30 to 6 at night the gates are shut down at night. >> plenty of room to park and

not disturb the people. >> amazing it is accounting i live across the street. >> what time is he normally. >> he was opening past the hours of 2:00 a.m. without a permit for sometime we bought the place i we bought it and came forward i talked to him, i said look you have to get a permits it is a two-step lengthy process he didn't have an excuse why opening. >> he wants the permit to stand. >> yes. >> pizza for breakfast (laughter) any other questions. >> i just you have approval at planning could you get a final permit conditional use authorization in writing did you get that. >> there were no conditions

there was no opposition it went to consent calendar and it was approved. >> great if inform questions up to date have a seat we'll bring up the terryvillthe terry >> officer dan taraval police station we don't have any laltd venues the taraval way out there i think in termite locations it is residential out there we don't have the density of those late night venues like most other police district do i have been working the clerk will take the roll with the owner hesitate receptive to our conditions there was the one condition

regarding the staffing from midnight until we worked and came to a consensus to change it to one a.m. to 20 minutes avenue closing that addresses most of concerns. >> great, thank you anyone have questions for the officer great. thank you very much. >> okay i'm going to open to public comment on the continuous pizza. >> any comments seeing none, public comment is closed commissioners the matter is with us. >> motion? discussion. >> i make a motion we approve. >> do we have a second. >> second. >> there is a motion and a second any any further discussion? >> with a that have the clarification with the police conditions. >> i didn't with the police

condition. >> okay on that motion and second same house, same call? >> sure. >> thank you. >> just one clarification the writing here it says midnight we will change to one; correct? >> ; correct. >> good luck to you item no. 7 commission questions or comments. >> anybody. >> the 90s was great. thank you very much. >> all right. new business new agenda items commission anybody? staff? >> okay meeting is adjourned thank you. >>

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