back it aligns everything citywide if no need for a cu in other places especially in the tenderloin to kind of require a cu is that true in my reading of this. >> the upper market the code you can't do massage that is with the hospital opening up another principle use that can be accompanied by massage but following commissioner tang's lead by have the moornlt see to get a conditional use authorization. >> so not only the intends but almost citywide. >> yeah. >> commissioner tang's ordinance i second the comments it means it have the cu process to kind of implement that balance everybody is talking about so thank you. >> commissioner antonini.

>> yeah. a question for staff allows those to be accessory to personal services so what sorts of things you know whether qualify and personal services. >> in this case there are therapeutic health is that a that is explained broadly. >> it could be theoretically be a barer. >> tattoo steam bath. >> yeah. okay. he guess i mean this is just you know allowing it each one will come to us as a conditional cu and what percentage of the use has to be present to be accessory. >> well the way it is written the massage can't be greater than 1/3rd with the one thousand square feet if any memory serves me right.

>> i assume any project that is granted a cu under certain circumstances with other uses and that deteriorates the other uses that condition will be in jeopardy. >> question also included the hours of operation to never exceed the principle use if that condition is violated than this cu - that was the grounds of revoking the cu. >> so you think so a good application for this use and in the capital uses nor generic to make sure we protect ourselves against situations where some use is kind of a front for other activities and massage is not a massage i'm that in support of each one we look at individually. >> commissioner vice president richards that is an impressive with his

plan this is going to encourage the entrepreneurs hopefully, this will be opened up and times change and neighborhoods congressman and approving this will bring a positive change to the tenderloin thank you. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to adopt a recommendation for approval on that motion commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places you us on item 11 valencia street this is a conditional use authorization. >> commissioners i'd like to too introducing you to a new planner on the project team she worked as subconscious with the city of

santa fe with the specialist position a bachelor's from the universities of british columbia and a master in community planning from the city of cincinnati. >> good afternoon. i'm department staff the item before you is a request for a conditional use authorization to permit t c g sf affiliated with the williams to make an the use to a commercial use of a single story commercial building to business and professional use and limited restaurants use the project also includes a tenant improvements and exterior altercation with the transit district active conditional uses between valencia and if a krifgs

is needed the limited restaurant use is an active eye on the ground floor it includes a real estate brokerage with commercial use this use is located to the rear and the proposed project sponsor has proposed a limited restaurant used to be located the front of the tenants says that a bookstore and cafe to activate the student there are conditions of approval with the motion that will make sure that the fronts portion the space continues to be an active use and not change it to an inactive use and no kworngz or correspondence with that said, the project is necessary and desirable and impartial for the

following reasons the proposed business and professional use which is locally owned and operated to serve the san franciscans and an active use and not formula retail and then intended to serve the neighborhoods residents and workers the project will activate a basic 3 thousand plus square feet ground floor of retail formula been vacant since 2014 and the removal of a metal garage door and replaced it with a transparent storefront and the project is compatible that concludes my presentation. i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you opening it up for public comm t

comment. >> i'm sorry project sponsor. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the commission good afternoon my name is andrew davidson the project sponsor and design principal and applicant for the corporation for the team my clients desire initially is and was to develop a professional business space that will allow for people to come up the rear portion of the street sfroj on valencia street a first story building with a basement and retail business to occupy the front part a commercial space and entitle k w lunch box cafe the rear portion the cafe will afford itself to a small business the community as well

as be a business and neglecting center as enjoying brings and lunches and so forth this space will be like an urban center or a local merchant and residences that maybe interested in that similar to the capital one cafe as we see on posty the same concept a concept that has been entertaining for quite a while and this is the first launch on valencia street inside the cafe so this will be a stifle thing for the tenants i'll put something especially here in a moment the style center for the folks to have real estate information and the component had that will be used for the lunch box cafe and the book sales the bookstores will be incorporated into the lunch box cafe and they'll be an

investment and by real estate construction and remodeling so forth and t off the front anymore like a networking center you don't have that on valencia cord it is a mix of shops and second-hand stores but in particular this center will are stillish center that will be one of it's kind the area we want to see if you'll adopt that and make a small correction who the lady made the statement that the roll up garage door will be removed that will not be removed we'll be building behind the roll up door so at night we'll

close down the door and it will be a similar elevation to what is happening next door not creating a storefront only that will be there day and night to close that door gone on it during bus hours not a door you can come in but only a lot into the lunch box cafe and the bookstor bookstore something similar to - >> as you can see the brick wall we have monitor on the brick wall as well a wifi center and internet with the seating and networking encounters people

can enjoy the lunch and coffee and on the rear portion we have the signage with the public english and brick style telephone booth that was something that was incorporated when any client rick cunningham came up with and incorporated that into the design that's my presentation for this afternoon if you have any questions. >> thank you opening it up for public comment good afternoon president fong and commissioners i'm jefferson i represent the folks with the allocating rail street in the country your active use space is replacing real retail with real estate we'll have a profound

impact 0 permanent impact on the foot traffic of that block that block has only one retail establishments open each side of the street one on each side and we have the dramatic decrease in foot traffic having this to commercial space will have a long-term impact and in terms of the we were assured that coffee shows shouldn't be worried about competition this serves their clients and their staff this is a sham this is not a real retail formula i'm confused by the the gentleman said about they've been entertaining this for quite a while when they showed us this

design it didn't show us retail in the front they've over over-the-counter permit was denied no active use the front he redesigned it and threw in a convention room i saw a space for a receptionist a full-timers receptionist to greet the clients so finally i want to point out of they wanted to get into the coffee shop business dedicating the first thing exclusively to retail we've not seen that intention there are restricts in place it prevent the loss of retail it restaurant the cleric mission the transit district restricts the

conversion to ground floor retail thank you. >> hello commissioner and jason, i represent a small business parts of coordinator association first and foremost this is not zoned for an office or restaurants or skaef cafeteria it was a arrangements art gallery before and in december cal williams contacted the organization and said that was going to be basically real estate office and in months times that is not okay they reconfigured the office plan and made they're first office they call a networking cafe or coffee shop possibly for a bookstore and this is

troubling because to put the congestion room and kind of water cooler space the front didn't mean and retail active use and they're releasing workers they don't run cafe or coffee shop who will they lease to they're going to use a model to chase bank downtown and if they'll use that you kind of model i'm concerned they'll put a hopes coffee shop we have a system of local coffee and tea shops compared to my livelihood's as a small business owner that existing codes with followed this retail formula is not turned into an office two years

ago it was called an art indecision e design 24 61 a small gallery now turned into a corporate real estate office this is the kind of conversion that gets local residents anger to real estate adding to the changing culture and economy of the mission and san francisco in general thank you. >> my name is katherine i have a personal statements and i have a statement if eileen who is the owner of true coffee so this is from me i spoke with daniel yell she was in charge and to see if they have a coffee vendor in mind

sorry - >> became contrary they don't have a plan for the space as when she described to me not consistent with the retail plans to be detailed plans that were submitted she described what they wanted to do with the cafe and special concerning to me they're not planning to operate themselves they're looking to have a outside entity operate it. >> and the part from eileen the cafe we know that will be tough for them to break even the coffee space the conditional use will be for a starbuck's a large chain will be happy it losses money on valencia street we've learned from jack spaud in any

case want to insure point valencia corridor is a difference courtyard we see more and more retail formula is turned into restaurants and the success of small businesses and not make this corridor a designation like we need to make sure that the existing retails spaces are successful thank you. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment there will be questions for you project sponsor and public comment is closed. commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i have some questions i know this space is vacant i guess staff or project sponsor about the general vicinity are interest admit vacancy what is the vacant vacancies rate.

>> there are haven't storefront the second tenant space within the building 467 valencia that one is appears to be used as a storage or a electrician shop but not open hours and there are yes there are some vacant storefront in the area. >> that's a consideration in my mind because those proponents that speak to the fact they want to have other uses their permanent art studios and galleries and another retail formulas can go into that and my other comment is that fear of formula retail use if there were to become formula retail would have to come before us for

approval as long as it is individually operated would be within our approval process and approving this and so i think the concept is not a bad one i think that i see capital one i walk by there a lot at night it is busy with people and people are using the spaces as work spaces rather than having office of their own to bring their computers or whatever rather than being an office so i think that is - would be up to the public as far as i, see and provides something that is not particularly in there i have a question about the garage door first, the picture shows the garage are not there and i guess the project sponsor said they'll leave it there and put it down at unite

staircase. >> that's fine what's that's what the picture showed when i look at the final picture i saw the garage door present on the adjacent building so we don't have control over that one i'll be clear this is removed that looks at bad to have a garage door interest the middle of the night and there are securities concerns everybody else takes the steps necessary and if someone vandalized the neighborhoods that is the law enforcement responsibility and having an illuminated area should be illuminated night and day to discourage that kind of

thing so, yeah i'm generally in favor of this but want to see restriction making sure that that use had to remain limited restaurant, book store whatever the use question approve i can see that taking up a beggar percentage project sponsor did you want to comment on that. >> yeah. i'm in total agreement with you i guess those we're speaking from the public saying something about starbuck i'm a nature san franciscan and born and raised and my parents lived in the city of san francisco those was a quite a while before they allowed mcdonald's to come in so having worked with planning. a long time with the different

planners and so forth and i've stood about the commission the past with a restaurant in west portal called toast so our coffee vendors will eastbound prison similar with the village coffee machine and again something that we've entertained for a while and in la thinking because of the issues not a problem whatsoever to have that retail component but definitely not be a starbuck's i'm sure the reason why that was mentioned not a chain ever formula retail use >> what are the hours of operation. >> they're the same hours of operation of the real portion the space between the hours of 7 and 6:00 p.m. or a 9 to 5 type

of operation. >> like a store to encourage this thing to be a real restaurant i mean it is limited i know since you have no alcohol that will be harder to get people there at night i see a lot of coffee shops and people are in under drinking coffee late at night i think that is important to the extent to have a tuff storefront that is illuminated. >> we wanted the garage door to be removed but one of the things that planning has an issue with the changing the facade and maintaining the facade of having the storefront to be there we don't have a problem with - removing the garage door. >> that's not an issue that seems to be what is presented no

garage door. >> thank you commissioner hillis. >> so a couple of questions i think a couple of one thing - faced the somewhere issue down valencia a medical office we tweaked the project but it is necessary at the end of the day, we are saying a little bit of the same situation i agree with some of the merchants this space is well-designed and the facade i'm trying to the layout i'm concerned of following the letter of the law and the spirits of the law but i mean, we do want to promote retail i think that i've seen that happening in. >> cough of corridors is professional office space will add an accessory retail this is not welcoming to the public i

have concerns about this and here he guess my question to staff and maybe the project sponsor there is a the car i think that is the south side of the project you know why not have a separate retail space to the back of williams office and have a significant still separate retail space maybe at beginning link but my concern the cafe doesn't work and we have this space that is linked to the real estate office space and not an independent retail space here it could be an art gallery the future it is don't separate spaces and walk through the corridor and get to the office space and there could be

truly a separate retail space so if i can do that i'm a little bit uncomfortable. >> yes. commissioner hillis we looked at that and didn't want to create the levies and components you know how you, you have coffee and walk through the double doors this is across the street from the dmv it is creating a congestion pizza is really, really small and this commissioner as mentioned we're opening it up so their can, work on their computers so they can get their coffee and walk it to desk you know the counters and work stations so to be a combined front area is par part of that barista.

>> so it doesn't feel like a separate retail space i want to see that certainly link them but have the ability to have the kind of retail aspect of what you're doing didn't work is can work as retail space we're as a commission we're trying to protect the retailed corridors and keep them vibrant and this does that either the retail gets spotty not inviting down the block so i share some of the concerns of the merchant that spoke. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess for off when the gentleman from the merchants associations said valencia has no formula retail a truchl may not have been retail is chase bank i know there are two cpmc a

large institution i went back on what we did in 1899 we put in a flower stands we were not happy how it turned out i'm an avid coffee drinker i've sold real estate it is essential my neighborhood too many real estate and brokerage companies the castro it has become a retail dessert and in art gallery to a real estate office on valencia street i live not far away it exceeded fits tipping point a long time good in restaurants and there are

over 50 percent or 70 percent is really like a restaurant designation and i'm not sure adding another coffee was a great idea on the specifics of this project as i look at the plan you submit their eloquent plans the reason to the extension of the real estate office if you look at wells fargo onramp market street in mire neighborhood the convention room is in the fronts and table and chairs by the window when i read i think that is the cafe is to subordinate to the real estate office and consider if you want to go down the back of the says that a bona fide entrance and wall and the ones i think work well, two examples if you want

to look at the by itself on 16th street we allowed a bank to go in it created 3 small retail spaces and interesting on the block of castro the same type of set up and saying i will consider a gold building and store went out of business and when you quacked the hallways to the back of the building a large space and created a smaller retail formula it is struggling but has been leased so if you were to come back with something to allow that i'll consider but can't consider that as it is right now. >> commissioner moore. >> appreciate commissioner hillis and commissioner vice president richards bringing up the past discussions we had about our obligation in

supporting valencia as to be routine by the planning commission, and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote enterorenal ohio but ♪ case look at the type of buildings we have almost one foot long 37 wide property built zero offering e offline the depths will make that impossible to have a real estate officer that relies on the artificial light should it be two separate establishments i want to ask the applicant why you're showing a stair from the cafe when no

indications this as second story building as you is existing stairs lead to a basement that is a storage basement down below no windows below the street level it is down into the basement >> your existing conditions not show that because i believe that for a successful retail coffee or whatever establishment you need some lands by which you have one room and a changing area for the employees of that particular operation as well as storage space with active sandwich and coffee delivery you need storage space somewhere i don't see that i will be more inclined to look at there will be a local

entrepreneur that will embrace the space i'm concerned about the competition and the exaggeration of coffee shop in the corridor we have ones that are wonderful and support them wholeheartedly they want the neighborhood gathering as to whatever a coffee shop i want to have my coffee why i choose a good coffee shop i would kind of at that moments hesitant to support the project as proposed see nor meat on the bone to consider this because the office conformity is a hindering block and i see the occupied space is

that a good interpretation why not the garage door. >> the transparency so that is why we have a condition that requires actually, the curve to be restored and the garage door to be removed so that actively is an existing condition we have the draft motion. >> the garage door graphically are fine but not appropriate for this site and the transparency issue i think that one i think safety is an issue as well commissioner richards commissioner johnson. >> i'll support the continuance of this item rather than a rejection because a period of time before that he gets to come back so make that okay. i'll make a motion for continuance and hopefully, the project sponsor will be amenable to making the changes and the

commissioners made great comments and i see the sort of the same thing i hope i'll add on more specifics there are a couple very confusing items about things about this project that made it difficult to assess this the first action in general the change of the use to a professional use i know we're putting conditions to account for the specific design and the project sponsor is looking for that has a retail component but at the end of the day this action is absent of a kind of a blunt instrument for this project we were doing a change of use and with the land the future someone else will say maybe an office and cook for any reason changes 0 not about this project in general but i'm a little bit hesitant about the tool we're using which brings me to my next

irrational when is the project in general think commissioner hillis made some xarnz to the cpmc project that is further up on valencia street this was a mishmash of that a number of that includes the communities spaces, public space that works because the bank had enough space we were actually able to have a sizeable community component not separate entrances but a sizeable room this is a little bit office space to have that public spaces i'll say okay. not quite that the size of the spaces didn't allow for that model what you are looking at this as a better keeping it

as a same use but a coworker space people will come in into the portion and sit and drink cfo and use the wifi and office space that is for towards the rear and it would have been better because of the size to have that more integrated you don't have enough space for separate businesses but at the same time this seems really subordinate and accessory to the business use i think i will be supportive of a model more integrated there is a public components people come in and work and people have coffee if you want to go with that but a business the back but i think their nighttime a way i'm concerned about the approval going with the land and

not someone having a well-thought-out concept being able to have great architecture i'll move to continue this item hopefully to take some of the comments and come back with something. >> second. >> and then in fact, i think you stood up what are your thoughts. >> i'm understanding the few comments there were made we'll have a conference room the front it is like a training room the back and when they're operating their business in the frontals that entire area is the cafe area so someone was mevengs a capital one cafe not a pocket to the side oh, you can't bring

tour scoff to this side from the beginning as the merchant mentioned we originally wanted an office and incorporated the coffee there's a store behind that we embraced that it was a model we were entertaining not we're trying to put there to satisfy the conditional use we know that is a retail corridor and that the use for retail we embrace that 100 percent so the middle or to the side or the back i mean, we, design we'll embrace whatever to we can add that retail component i mentioned the restaurant i designed on west portal that is true it has a beautiful it barrette area but part of entire retail area that the office space in the rear of

the building and commissioner moore mentions that is one hundred foot building you know so that make sense to have the retail components the fronted of the business rather than an undesirable business we'll open to - >> thank you. >> i would say that in terms of the my comments personally as a commissioner, i tried not to put characteristics from others they indicated danny heard from the public comment either it is as smoke screen more formula retail use starbuck's or a smoke screen for office use not to put the characterizations but to have a way to integrate those the clerk will take the roll so that potentially it would be more of a coworker space i'll

ask the zoning administrator there is a gray line whether or not in the professional service or retail there is a way to use a little bit more thoughtfully you don't need do change of use. >> question determined coworker not to be allowed rezoning district principally loudly the zoning district but requires this to be active commercial space and business and professional service that is from the district is for the an active commercial use their modify the profession o provision to allow the ground floor part of discussions with the department was the ideas for the retail formula at the front was somewhat meant to mitigate that to produce a buffer the impacts i think that is how this

was developed over time to minimizing the impacts of the professional office used by the retail use not meant tobacco a smoke screen for pizza or other uses through the conditional use process. >> right to that point that is not you know the color of my country so before i move to continue do you see other opportunities for this to be able to meet their goals and potentially not change of use for other options to consider. >> the change of use is going to be a change of use regardless the use is changing but whether or not they could come up with something that will not require and conditional use authorization we look at that you know this is an interesting thing that goes up under the back actually windows that front on caldon and whether or not

this is a way for the corridors having a separate retail use but certain size of businesses they need but certainly have more discussions i'm hearing from the commission one option of having a distinct separation between the commercial uses and maybe less- maybe they can have a more friendly active business and professional use perhaps but that use is with the lands and other uses category could come in under if provision. >> kind of a follow-up question would is that be conditional use if you kept it as an art gallery future art from folks the

neighborhood workers people that bought houses the neighborhood and had a desk and office in the back and bring up to the communities for things as a art gallery. >> in continues are in terms of the local art but we can certainly work with the project sponsor and maybe move forward with something that doesn't have a conditional use authorization with an active use that satisfies the section and then the business services at the back that is principally allowed a question not used as much the combination of the use and location with the back and frontage we can certainly look at that further and see if there's a way at least 25 feet the front needs to be the intuitive retail use. >> thank you commissioner antonini. >> i'm supportive of the

continuance i'd like to see the retail space be w a large portion of the entire building it looks like you have 99.6 and one quarter feet total length so i'm envisioning 48 feet the retail space the frontals and 51 or fewer feet of the real estate officer office the rear and explore the possibility of having the entrance to the real estate office on caldon with the passage but make the easier for people to coming out the real estate office not entrance on the street but a possibility to use the downstairs area as part of the retail space that makes the retail space bigger and

would like to see to find a possible someone to operate the restaurants portion of it as well as someone to operate the bookstore portion yonl i don't believe this is a bookstore on valencia maybe there is. >> there is the book simple importantly. >> that might help to. >> they've added that to a says that a toy store before that. >> and there are some instances where some limit amount of food services that is included i remember the borders it was handy people could get a cup of coffee or something to

eat and read books macro maybe buy some it was two things that worked together that will be what i'd like to see with the continuance i also want to see the retail component open into the evening he hours a lot of people that on the street are concerned about the space the evenings and better if this was open to 8 or 9 o'clock at night to allow people probation officer come in and buy a book and have coffee and whatever those are the thoughts i have i've seconded the continuance i don't think we have a date to. >> there is no date yet commissioners i'll caution you we're scheduling cases in june hover on march 242 opened up i don't know if two weeks is okay.

>> project sponsor if i could ask is that two short a period of time to put something together. >> yes. that's fine march 24. >> i wanted to mention we solicited the same partition or operator at the welter that is java beach cafe we've been in discussion they've worked with me on the west portal toast project we've been discussion u discuss and another company out of michigan with an expresso and they actually came to one of the open houses and came off the street and been discussing with them. >> i'll be supportive of that date they'll have to have

something that meets the things that the commission is speaking to otherwise that will be retained and further on. >> commissioner hillis. >> just to the date first, the problem is the package package is not next week we needed more time i know you're getting mixed advise here this is 6 of us but to may what will happen the retail needs to be distinct and separate you have a huge problem but got to be able to have separate hours and close at different hours and then the real estate office it may not be real estate office you know we want a strong separate real estate office but two separate

entrances the alley the back and enter into the back i want to see a separate distinct significant retail space i suggest you meet with the participants you obviously are the designer and there are ways an interesting building you you know both storefronts can be put in there i think there is room in that building to do something creative but have a strong retail space as well as a combinations for the real estate office the back and some entry and presence the front that can work i leave that up to you he figure out it. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> for the merchants president if you may come up please if the project sponsor will delve a third find building this is as

problematic building i used to see this in 19 61 i bought some of it, it is a cute building so we've got a front retail space to have a side door - and the back a station you won't know that was under there it takes place 90 perris of the front will you object to that. >> to have a honest to goes on active space and i could support a continuance i want to make sure that the project sponsor i'm for the retail space with no doors opening up to the real estate office i had visitors out and thank you one person graduated high school

friends of mine what's the first thing you want to do he wanted to go to valencia it is becoming a place people know about my fear is that you know if we start having officer uses it will be the castro and launch the castro like we did to try to get better retail mix i'll support the retail space with a minimal real estate space on valencia street if this is something you can work on please. we can definitely do that i'm trying to knows who has the idea how everyone has the ideas the office is in front the space the office is the rear of the space. >> i'll asking the office to be the rear. >> the plans show them nltsd

rear they've always been the rear. >> did i say the fronts. >> the retail is the fronts simply with the distinct office area, no transparency into the office space. >> if i look at the elevation as you raise up the garage doors with the windows it looks like the windows that can be turned into the doors with the interior of the space and i'm not sure i'll support another coffee shop not sponsored it is known as a retail but work with the bona fides retail space not foodstuffs. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> thanks yes. i accept march 24 for the continuance what. >> i thought somebody said it

didn't work the drawings will have to be in by next week. >> i'll not recommend the time is two short. >> so next to the date. >> we may - okay. >> i thought jonas made something. >> april 28th jonas. >> the may calendar is out the date we wanted the planning code amendment to that date if you, i mean you've got several large ax items coming before you in april and may

so. >> june 9th. >> june 9th well, i would actually recommend june 16th. >> you've got 9 draft eir. >> so june 16th. >> i - >> may 19th you've got 2000 bryant on may 19th and it will be a very full day. >> sorry. >> it will be a long hearing. >> i'm fine june 16th. >> june 16th. >> okay commissioner moore. >> i would like to support the idea by the commissioners regarding the separation of the two spaces as a fully functioning retail space use at least in formula and local and

the office of being present yet not really playing any role in the retail space might have a door and the corridor into the yard may operates on the property is more desirable to have an entry door off valencia and it will be supporting our responsibility for valencia street as primarily a rail corridor. >> commissioner richards. >> i'd like to ask the motion maker to recommend a motion the project sponsor work with the merchants you'll have a meeting the minds. >> that's fine. >> lay out and retail. >> sure. >> we have multiple occasions

we talked with the merriment and they've returned it that's fine we thanked them for the e-mail two outreach meeting a neighborhood notification and reached out and had a lot of supporter from those the neighborhoods with the merchants and others the area and a sign in list we've is it your understanding in we'll continue to reach out. >> the merchants understand where we are seeing they wits au what's the issue. >> my issue i've worked with planning city planning for years and merchant groups we've done neighborhood notifications and reached out to them as a well and to hear this 230er the first time this is a financial hardship and not been able to

move you know as skillfully as we hopes. >> the 34r7b9s are engaged you and for whatever reason we're asking them to sit down with you. >> as a maker of the motion i'll prefer not to condition that we have a couple of months and hate to continue it again, because that doesn't happen i'm hoping there's reach out to the merchants and this is will not be good for their case the merchants come back and say the stank but i feel like let's keep is clean continue it and they've heard our thoughts. >> as the seconder i'll encourage the neighborhood participation and sponsor trying to reach the merchants and you know let's hope there is some sort of engagement but i still will be ready to consider it on

the 16 one way or another. >> commissioners there is a motion that has been seconded to continue this matter to june 16th commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. >> jonas the commissions will take a short break here. >> located at 1631 howard in

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opportunities the pdrs and to the 74th annual memorial day neighborhood provides a 3 dimensional screen along howard and in questionikisling they weu three years ago with the auto dealer and they've implemented that building in operation now we're back here proposing a moderation of the automobile service operation a couple of blocks on howard and kissing between 11 and 12 and have the

folks from restraining order on motors come here i'm the operator the family is in business since 1947 the present operator is a third-generation the eco was not able to attend asked me to come down we're excited about the project as far as the project we're the car stackers utilizing the parking area and more utilization of the process instead of using the parking structure two blocks behind us as well as adding a car lodge assembly to wash the customers cars and friendly and reclaiming the system to the project that not only allows our business to be more focus we serve the customers he clean

power the parking lot and will be more effective for our customers the infrastructure and to maintain the automobile repair business we run a business since 1947 that's all i have. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you, john again, i want to give you a quick he overview the existing operations is a maybe building and two surface vehicle storage lots the project will conduct roughly non-retail car wash adjacent to the existing office building this will be used if not open to the public with retail by the service operation and washing new cars before by bring them to the dealer it will construct 3, 4 level systems think howard

street for the cyber outlet of the site 81 storage places in existence and b will increase up to one and 58 spaces the stackers will be used for the service operations while storage and new cars being brought before you you know held in storage before the new dealership with the landscaping along howard street and kissing with the purpose of is stacksers from the street they're taking the cars and packing in a parking garage on 12 and kiss listing and being a narrow alley there will be a

significant amount of traffic off the streets and eliminates we agreed to reduce the stackers by two levels along the rear yard for reduction of 8 stacker spaces and agreed to a construction the wall along the rear rear line with the buffer and finally continue working with the neighbor on the small notch on the screen both being provided to them we also have been working with the apartment owner on 11 and kisling with the street we've talked about the number of cars

and moving off that street and provided them with a direct point of that contact with the motors and adopted a policy and he posting signs with the employees to surcharge they're properly using that street we are also going to get in touch that the mercedes down kisling street and also install cameras and lighting along kisling street for the improvement of the lighting in the alley the existing sites one and 2 employees and will consolidate the vehicle storage that are currently used down the street and maintain the operation in existence ero 40 years we respectfully are here. your approval and questions >> opening it up for public comment not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner moore. >> i'm very glad to see an

densification of the pdr use that is appropriate the question i would ask it is the increase in parking as it relates to pdr the motion tied to the use and user it is user specific i'll not see densification to the parking past the fact that the motor will move out sometime in the future. >> it is tied to a the the operation or to that site if it was 20 to be sold and/or converted to the parking it will need a cu. >> thank you. the second question i like the treatment of the wall to the outside do we have particular maintenance requirement because no blank walls tend to invite

people that want to paint graffiti i'd like to sure the enlightenments and the automotive use is looking sharp. >> i don't believe there are specific conditions currently the motion that states that but you're welcome to add that if if so a concern. >> i'd like to add this is not a non-present largest of the visibility factor i want it to be graffiti free and with an that is attended to etc. i think with that otherwise i'm supportive of it and would move to approve with these added conditions >> second. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i too am supportive i also when he heard there was steal the walls that are being

put up there i looked any case rapport report and assumed it was wood it looks nice but if it is metal it can rusty assume that will be taken care of this is a great use it us much anymore efficient and i can appreciate the number of cars that are on that lot and at a given time i also been there for servicing by only the service part but with my wife as a jeep she goes to goes 0 out to statutory and that lot is so big you have a hard time turning around and getting out of there they could use some stackers you have our service vehicles and some sales vehicles on to south

van ness and used storage between all the uses so i'm sure there are quite a few and it makes a lot of sense to use the stackers to have mother vehicles and not employ a second facility to move them if there so i am supportive. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to approve that matter with conditions as amended to include the user mine the student specifically the shaping and keep is a great deal of free commissioner antonini pr commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us on item 13 for case no. at fulsome street this is a large project

authorization. >> commissioners, i have another new planner to reintroduce to you shawn has returned to the department after several years away shawn has over 17 years experience worked for many agencies santa barbara and many others graduated if cal poly and working in planning ever sense and managed a lot of promotions downtown mixed use and a substantial development he's a nature californian and enjoys gardening and hiking and coastline and photoy. >> good afternoon shawn the item before you is a large project authorization for proposed project at fulsome street under the large project authorization the project is

seeking modifications to the planning code reminder for a rear yard dwelling unit exposure ceiling height, and off-street parking the proposed project consists of the existing building and construction of a new 14 story mixed use building with two ground floor totally 23 hundred square feet and dwelling units and 36 off-street parking spaces and 89 bicycle parking and go class one bicycle parking space and 52 one bedroom and 57 two bedroom and to date letters in support and one additional letter was passed out today and with the affordable housing in lui fee alternative with the

middle of the fee based 22 percent that is estimated about $5 billion at a project viable plans was completed through the exemptions calibrated via e-mail i have copies here and also like to note a couple of minor corrections to the draft motion on page 2 the last forgave november 3rd should be changed to march 3, 2016 and on page 3 of the motion the last sentence of item two strike the words below-market rate and after analyzing all the aspects the staff recommends approval with the applicable compliance with the modification and the project is consistent with the policies and procedures as stated the motion the project is located in

a zoning district for residential uses permitted and the project pursues now residential development with significant go sign up landscaping sidewalks and private and common open space the project provides capable in fill construction within the m u r and holstering and utilities the eastern neighborhood controls and will pay the books closing the project sponsor is present and has prepared a presentation and in his presentation - i'm available to answer any questions. >> project sponsor please. >> thank you good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the commission i'm c.j. i'm representing the project sponsor for the project before you today the proposed project will add 89

one bedroom unit to the city inventory the times of urgent need the location is at corner of fulsome and he ideal for residential projects of this type the project will join other residential buildings on the street and will help to encourage residential environment in a very mixed area will continue to be mixed use area and in particular, the sidewalks improvements along the hallway this or that with the human scale orientation of the all of the evidence base and impanels the character of the neighborhood while nielsz nicely with the other sounding areas the neighborhood outreach was constructed we feel confident the project will be received and the project sponsor is worked with the planning department through several iteration with

the facade and the base of the building where it meets the street we're proud the final product we are presenting with that, i turn this over the project architect will walk through in more detail. >> thank you, commissioner and staff. >> jonas. >> excuse me. >> go ahead. >> excited to take you through and give you a graphic introduction of what you guys had a chance to review earlier and shawn and t.j. spoke about

to give you a quick conversions here on the northeast and that borders with the financial district to the north it happens to sit where at the border of a couple of various zoning district and planning borders so that you end up having a mix of different massing types i'll shoe show you on the next slide this is 13 thousand 5 hundred commercial says that a chinese routine u restaurants 72 hour the bottom images at a car location it is currently operating as we go on to the next slide this gives context of the massing we're proposing we are he proposing one and thirty foot building located in the heights district as far as the massing

you'll notice a couple of mixed various heights along the frontage it's neighbor immediately to its east will matching that height with the intent of 50 feet that is a 7 story commercial building now across the street to the north plus a 14 floor commercial building which is obviously you much higher and we show there for many context the future development the outlines you might see for the three hundred foot tower proposed at the diagonalal corner the proposal is within the planning guidelines and problematically offers i think a program that fits within the context

going to the next slide this is a summary of something shawn provided 789 units 52 one bedroom and parking stalls at the basement levels and 23 hundred square feet of retail and open space in various balconies or through the rooftop amenities the courtyard and we'll show you in the next slide a sidewalk expansion. >> this is a ground floor level it has been colored to be look at more clear graphically and on the north the two commercial spaces 23 hundred square feet total and north of that long fulsome street both of the

retail spaces on fulsome and there were go class two bike rapgz racks holding two bikes along the east side and that accounts for the 8 class 2 bike parking stalls appropriated on the south side the color listed it recognizes a place for the tenants a lobby for the residential tenants as well as bike storage 89 stalls and then for the at the boundary to the parcel a 10 foot curve cut that allows assess to the underground parking other amenities shown here are parcel mail rooms we're in discussion of a possible conference room for the tenants

and going next door this one shows some of the unit mixes and the courtyard that is proposed at that level and also there is double height space you'll see about the retail that provides and accommodates a 13 floor requirement if 5 above and in this case we have some spaces that are nearly double height going up further this is a typical floor it is a pretty tight site we show 7 units per floor at the unit mix alternatives between go one bedrooms and 2 two bedrooms the articulation at the facade with the projections for the bay windows then on the south side that is facing the courtyard you'll

notice there is private patios proposed for those units that is important to note in every unit and every room direct access to views and light and they all have windows in every single room finally when we get up it out you were floor you'll notice a large amenity that is calming nielsz a proposed floor tenant use public space with support building support and mechanical features it is a quick overview of comments we've received some earliest ration from october 2014 that was some things have been passed on to planning we received comments and i wanted to walk through

those comments i you as you can see all the concerns the first iteration the permit asked for more articulation and depth the facade something that might characterize more characterized as in nature a followup rendering you'll see as a xhoentsdz or a tool we're using to identify these residential units straightening you'll have a punk what did facade with the windows but many this this - we focused strongly on the individual unit and this is our proposal here and part of pride in recognizing that the bay windows is a san francisco vera in that case

lett is - we offered a way that gave a more dynamic pattern an expression of depth but beyond the pattern you'll see in the general facade we on the strength of the plan is the corner of building entering laced fingers a deeper expression of a volume rather than a surface punctuation was so our expressions from the exterior on fulsome primarily through the expressions of the text during of the building. >> i'm sorry sir, your

presentation times has expired i don't know from the chair has a desire to continue. >> how much more. >> 3 more slides. >> okay. what is intended to show here the - we stuck with the presentation of the design features the articulation that allows us to contract what we offer from the exterior courtyard with the language or vocabulary to express the differentiation if you will, and in the material for example, like cutting open fruit with - finally going to this is the last slide we would like to share at the street level the virtual outline is where the pedestrian level and from the street a big component of our presentation and our proposal to expand the sidewalk as you can

see it is a canopy and note there is a completely successful idea the bay windows and their scale is proportional to the residents and users along this property so - >> that concludes my presentation. >> okay. thank you. >> open up for public comment. (calling names) good afternoon, commissioners thanks for letting me speak i'm rudy corpus a executive director of the united players south of market we work with 4 hundred to 5 hundred kids daily so we work with 50 to 60 kids i'm born and raised in the south of market

i'm here to make sure that we're here holding people accountable to make sure that in district 6 people are building they have to meet the residents and meet with the people so we can have housing for our people in the community i've met with some of the people that are building this project and very contestant i'm also eager to continue to build a relationship with them the project you you know it looks nice the building project looks at solid and here to support them and look forward to continuing to talk with you guys will i have spoke to other people about the building in the neighborhood has allowed me to build relationships to help the organizations so thank you for that you'll be seeing and hearing more people speaking in support of what i'm in port of people building the neighborhood

i support this project thank you. >> overhead please rob pool with the action coalition welcome back commissioner johnson and congratulations our members does it or - makes great use of land and it itself within the walk distance the jobs and housing in a transit rich area so doing the affordability on site and we support is it the parking space is above our general preference to be go to add a car share space and bring the bike ratio up to two

bedrooms this would be terrific it is looking forward to improving the pedestrian experience and widening the sidewalks sea great landscaping will make that more pollutant place for residents to be it will be a great project and at the time of the presenting to us with the preapplication we attend we encourage you to be more into the community and the understanding it is terrific to see rudy here to see a great relationship with the project sponsor and the property owner or project sponsor is talking with the neighbors about the proposal we think that is a good project for the city and hope you support it today thank you for your time. >> hi my name is austin i'm going to try to keep my comments

short this is a great project for the neighborhood and for the marketplace and as well as the sidewalk expansion i encourage you to approve this project and move forward thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. commissioner moore this project is fun it actually brings a smile to our face with vibrancy and residential expression and breath of fresh air i think the interpretation of the departments bay remedies it beautifully excused and the idea of what i consider to be a basket weave into entering locking hands makes it interesting i'm sure we have our own feelings about the projecting program and surely i

can spends many christmases but this is another story. >> i think in the change of fulsome street that is a wonderful addition i'm delighted to so no nest bedrooms and no nest bedrooms here i'm saying that twice it can be done i think this particular building has a lot of things that are an "x" track we try to discussed the lack of benefit of market-rate bedrooms including how to use the bay successfully and create an interpretation of the bay i'm in full support that have this project and move to approve. >> second. >> second. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i too am in full support pointing out that contributing over $6 million in fees which permanent around 8

hundred thousand or eastern neighborhood and childcare fees will have an influence the neighborhood as well as all the other fees he really like the double retail spaces that make that corner become more vibrant and as appointed by staff this complies under the present m u r zoning will comply under the proposed m u o our central soma so that works and utilizing hiring and just a block or so from what will be an opening to the central subway is it is really very close to transit which i'm sure it is a good place for housing and walkable to the many areas that are

becoming the new are additional financial district south of market on mission and another streets around there so i think this is a real good project. >> commissioner moore. >> i'm interested to ask staff about the choice of the colors to the interior of the project to the rear and side of the project i see light green green space and so forth how do you respond to that. >> no additional study only a suggestion originally the color palate was just a gray material thought it would be novice to brighten up the courtyard area with a little bit - and this arises from an internal point that might be a fun thing to look at when you live in those units what happens you choose

other than neutral light it can be a various of tones you take-in that color i lived in an apartment building that has a large courtyards and lightwell and someone decided to paint them in an off-white based color that it is hard to look at them like hepatitis it was a light green the computer simulation start to show inside the environment if so a hard thing to look at i suggest you study it so did interior feelings of the room is not effected by the particular colors. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to approve that matter with conditions on that motion commissioner antonini

is commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and place us on item 14 ab at 14th street you'll be considering a zoning district and the zoning administrator a request for variance and another planner elizabeth is with the department returned to the department around a stent if 19 i 95 to 2001 a planner that on the southeast quadrant team and with the preservation advisory committee she returned to us in september of last year and 20 years of planning the bay area with several companies and tim

kelly consultants and more recently worked with the municipal with the city of petaluma and she holds a b.a. from harvard university and a masters from san jose state welcome back good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the commission the the item before you is a request for conditional use authorization for the property on 14th street located the rp o transit district and within the market and octavia plan area the projection proposes to address residential unit as basement and first floor levels within the building it contains the golden church and with residential unit which were constructed with the knowledge is 1923 the project sponsor has reduced the number of units proposed as not in your packets if 7 to 6

and this change is seen in the plans i've passed forward so 4 studio units and one one bedroom unit anticipate one two bedroom is promoted the reductions accommodated accommodates the new units and totals of 16 units and alternate church related spaces to accommodate those new units as well as 16 bicycle parking spaces there are no changes proposed to the interior space think is two and three third story and this is the existing garage replacement in kind of exterior windows and repair the staircase the rear in our set of plans e-mailed to the commission the project sponsor has revised the plans for the staircase this is also

in the items is that were passed forward to you those show the exterior from the third story to remain repaired and new perpendicular to the ground floor to the basement the project requires conditional use authorization for increased residential density beyond what is pertaining permitted in the zones and in addition to the dwelling unit mixed use the property was identified is a restored the market octavia survey i passed forward e-mail correspondence that was submitted after and this public comment is specifically in regard to the loss first floor spaces utilized by the church and additional perfect correspondence that came in this morning regarding the potential

new units proposed airbnb this project has been around since 2013 there was several tenants a church tenant that attended mostly concerned with the location of the trash and security concerns at the rear of the property the department recommends approval with conditions and buildings the project is necessary and desirable and that concludes my presentation. i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> okay project sponsor please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is todd mentor the trustee of the hit the nail on the head witnesses loan to the property a little bit of history we start

24 project a couple years ago we we had a different concept has a developer you think you come up with a good idea at the beginning and i'm a big proponent of the planning process i've done a lot of projects and always find the end projecting protein is better than the beginning product we have a couple of outreach meetings with the neighbors and any concerns we addressed well the building it's the current tenants the building seem to be had a a happy a laundry room not currently there and bike parking and handicap from the back so someone can get into the first floor and taking out a non-conforming garage that was built in the 40's or 50s that will become an outdoor area for

the barbecue and beverages people can enjoy and with that, we'll be adding 6 additional units the church go sanctuary will go stay and today, i have the pastors of the golden city church in support of the church and vessels the elderly i think now it is appropriate that heidi the architect and michael from our office can answer any technical questions you have but i think the project generally provides good housing in an area that is a great area for san francisco so headiidi. >> does anyone have any questions we know the drawings are a little bit late i apologize but the zoning

administrator brought up good questions tuesday on the stair we tried to work with the fulton neighbors their bay and it turns out it would have required a much large than i thought i found out yesterday with several department meetings he getting emigrate it confirmed i'm required to leave the area stair from the first floor to the third story. >> we with also did have a question about affordable housing and you know todd wanted to have as many units as possible early on and that being in a rent-controlled unit that addresses this affordability and

providing housing and things like that when we sketched out the two bedroom unit option because the planning code requires 40 percent to be new units fib two bedroom he liked it so we decided to change that okay. >> anything further. >> i have some graphics or pictures i can provide i don't know if it is helpful hopefully, you had enough time to review the drawings. >> are those drawings any different than we have here. >> they're the same. >> okay. thank you. >> great. >> we may have questions for you anything else from our team

you have a few minutes. >> oh, yes. >> good afternoon, commissioners thank you guys i'm the pastor of the golden city church this is going to be inside of the sanctuary before 14th street and we are excited to be a part of this new process of a link history of churches being the deboss triangle neighborhoods we're in support of this project opening it up for public comment any public comment? okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards you >> i guess a question for project sponsor you gave us the

same as the packetou >> i guess a question for project sponsor you gave us the same as the packetu >> i guess a question for project sponsor you gave us the same as the pack >> i guess a question for project sponsor you gave us the same as the packet>> i guess project sponsor you gave us the same as the packet so. >> commissioner antonini. >> i can ask the same question permanently there or revised plans we're reading about the addition of those tiny units your building and not permanent into two bedrooms. >> now the new count we're diagnose 7 and now we're doing of one two bedroom one one bedroom, and 4 studios. >> that still is well below the market octavia requires you know 40 percent two bedroom so. >> exactly. >> i'll be more in favor of two two bedrooms that is called out the plan and it might

actually have families occupy it may not necessarily ensue but at least they'll be big enough spaces to accommodate people because some of the buildings have small i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say but i envision maybe 3 new bedrooms snaef one and maybe one bedroom. >> i don't know we were required to keep the chapel. >> you're going to need to speak into the microphone. >> sorry here's the existing can chapel that is our space to

provide residential and that was - our 14 foot wide space for residential and for the lower floor a building code section that requires bedrooms to have escape windows and you can't do that from the basement unless it has direct access to a yard or street so based on all of the requirements with the building code and planning code and space requirements i can't get enough 20 two bedroom i i mean, i could not get a 2 two bedroom it is. >> i'm not an architect if the the buildings were longer but if the as many i can picture two units interest and this 0 small one on the other side. >> we're maxed out i got a one

bedroom up interest and then the pastor unit because of that egress window and the requirements that is kind of what i can fit in there. >> the other commissioners will have comments as to the design and we'll work with the staff to see what is possible. >> okay commissioner vice president richards. >> i'm taking myself back to 17 hundred market i was looking at the metric plan for years the unit requirement was something with the neighborhood association led the charge when you have those call them i don't mean any disrespect the units are small not having whatever people but having families move

on so i get if you were to try to configure the large units 17 market street we ended up 17 instead of 40 they have zero but all units i guess my challenge i agree what commissioner antonini to ask you to go back and see if you require different variance because you're doing two bedrooms. >> i'm sorry i've been working on that for 3 years no way to get another two bedroom apartment but we went through and had more units we were removing the chapel and to comply with that and have proper handicap assessable lift and stairs and the stair widths and

the hallway widths it is not - not possible. >> okay. i'm not going to support the project. >> i'm looking at the basement level 4 studio units; is that correct. >> it is half of one one a two level and so - because that one units the two bedrooms are upstairs it has a escape and rescue window that is required and the other 3 units face the rear yard you're allowed to have a exit out the two studios can they be combined into a two bedroom? >> that could be a one bedroom. >> so what i think we don't say a fully cooked project that complies as much as that cod

with could i'll have you worked on the units counts close as you can to the ideal space they'll probably fall short the two studios i don't want to design a project here. >> i know i can't put another two bedroom units i've looked at the it. >> you've said you can get another one bedroom. >> (multiple voices). >> i wanted you to say you can get as close to the design. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry thank you. >> commissioner hillis. >> so just a question on the combined the basement level and the first story for to create a

two bedroom and i thought that was odd that it was above the ground floor and on the other side adjacent to that could you do the same things and combine overseeing two. >> upper and lower to create- i am not personally i'm fine that is a little bit i'm fine with the two units and the door and my only question why you have the living area in the base i understand that but on the other side adjacent to that could you do that same thing. >> could we combine these two so then that is the bedrooms.

>> here. >> yeah. >> and then or these two bedrooms. >> so we end up with. >> two bedrooms and one. >> 3 studios. >> so we build 5 6 instead of 6. >> yeah. >> i wouldn't have a real problem with trying to get another two bedroom frankly the market negative impact that area we have buildings around the corner and a two bedroom could be a bit of a challenge to rents one bedrooms are strong and studios are strong but i'll have not yielded objection if we fit in a two bedroom that will be fine. >> that's my suggestion. >> so again having 5 units down to 5. >> yeah. you got units and complies more with the market

octavia. >> so if we did 5 and two two bedrooms out of 5 we'll hit the 40 percent and have the studios under the chapel that's my suggestion i mean some notation to continue i'll push for that i think that is a nicer two bedrooms and not trying to combine the studios into a bromz i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say. >> i'll not have an objection to try to do that but if there recent a way to get on the calendar sooner than later. >> you can get the two bedrooms i'd like to comply with the market octavia the two two bedrooms units are on that kind of you know nicer side of the building keep the studios underneath the chapel and i'll move to do that.

>> i have no problem with b that concept is that - and we'll see we've got to deliberate. >> commissioner moore. >> i support the continuance for two reasons building when you have a complicated projects with the drawings someone said they've worked on it for 3 years it is for the department availability to point out what was working and not working the other point is the unit mix of market octavia is well known we've supported it with the oz who have worked on it for a number of years and thirdly, i believe that the issue of liveability is a very important one i like to the department to cloth that the clerk will take the roll and unit 3 the one that has the bedroom on the first floor and the lincoln