and fire service out of the hearing aids for a week the middle of that trauma i'm sure none has managed to say of a foreign consulate will arrive on your doorstep with the immigration center with a one volunteers their students and families and the counselors i don't i don't think there was a door i had to open for myself or get food for myself i don't have to travel the police and fire services in san francisco did everything so on my and your on behalf of a real appreciative to all of them thank you. >> (clapping.) >> i have a long line of these in my office some to the 1950s 60s you wonder their words but

do they mean anything we found out how much they mean there is a lovely festivity photograph on the facebook of one of the mothers that lost her child in the blockage collapse and her cousins what elita and a photograph of them and airport with libya arrived to start her students and the missouri's pink to hold open to in leave is each other i want to say thank you to the city of san francisco to the people of san francisco and to the wider bay area for holding on the us in a difficult periods the lives of the irish community here in the be sure so thank you all. >> (clapping.) >> we're 6 weeks away from marking

the one hundred anniversary of the declaration of the proclamation and the easter rising and that was a similar event in irish history that changed the relationship on the 0i8d of the ridership and great britain and the relationship with the united states and relationships with europe i'm conscious it means different things to different people while the irish know about that the refreshing americans know and most americans with not familiar with was it stood for i've tried to find the colonel why it is important for everybody and our prayed marks that occasion how to ties to the communities here in america and particularly in san francisco and the word i'll use is in justice what caused the men and women of

eastern 1916 to stand up in refwhern a minority and they were told to stay home by something compelled them to take to the streets and even as a time the conflict with the world-class 1 remaining and later on have any rich americans and serving with the american services what compelled them to act that was in justice a history of centuries of injustice of being third class subjects to some other people and that resonated very much with the irish experience in america coming here to the first great republic if you read the words finds proclamation they echo the words finding declaration of independence to

find the majority of them spent time the america and closest family ties to america america is the only name mentions specifically the irish declaration of independence that's one reason we mark that occasion authenticity the human injustice when necessary rose up they were not welcomed by the population of dunn dublin the first horrible days of sheila's and killings they were insult and spat on what changed brought the rest of the country to the point of views and again, we come back to injustice it is what we saw happened the immediate aftermath of the arising the xooigsz and the imposition of mash law you go back to that thing they've stood up to protest we did this we will have to because of the

injustice thai had to be responsible for the same hands that led to their dedicate an irish people have had enough injustice the theme of enjustice links us to other people in other parts of word i want to an event with the new york times talked about an irish at the age of 14 and mentioned 1 about the 5 million irish show up on the shores of american one .5 million staifrl unwanted no skills having to be accommodated 9 first references had to absorb and wanting to r a part in the american dream i think today you read the newspapers one .5 sitting on the doorsteps of europe he trying to escape injustice and infaurns if i ask

myself kwhoo are the enar combithszries of today, i'm proud they're irish people that are running the receiving camps in turkey and lebanon i'm proud to reach out to the community and south american and afghan the lessons of 1816 why people throughout the century laid down their lives is fundamentally this is a battle against injustice that inis something that takes place the world around you, we have the responsibility to respond to those in need and respond to the problems of world and find solutions that the people like our people don't interest have to turn outside for help and assistance and they can go home

the city of san francisco stands for many things one of the greatest things it stand for it fairness and equality and inclusiveness that the irish experience came out here under e unlike the irish on the east coast they didn't face the same pressures on, on the east coast in finding in their way in america the first thing tax savings started the civil rights mark and on behalf of the irish to say we're here and part of the society and want to be part of the society we're broeng you, you something you can cherish and incorporate into the american dream to help you build up your country when i look out today, i see the benefit that is emerged the strength of that relationship between oirld and american i apologize on going on i want to say thank you to all

of you and thank you thank you for all you do to other causes and the struggle for injudicious wherever it might be thank you. >> (clapping.) >> thank you consul general i do want to acknowledge some individuals up here to make sure everybody knows who is standing with us today, we'll bring up lee yum but two of the statistical warths angus and commissioners for the city and county of san francisco >> (clapping.) >> i'm sure many don't need introduction but our fire chief joanne hayes-white. >> (clapping.) >> our police chief greg suhr. >> (clapping.) >> our city attorney dennis

herrera. >> (clapping.) >> and we've heard from consul general grant and mayor ed lee and ms. shuttling and supervisor yee is here. >> (clapping.) >> who represents o represents many the sunset district and vicki hennessey our sheriff. >> alex from the board of city college. >> (clapping.) >> carmen chu our amazing assessor-recorder. >> (clapping.) >> and scott wiener into district 8. >> (clapping.) >> so i'd like to bring up someone that is involved the irish community born and raised san franciscan was in our police department for 319 years retired as a lieutenant and the president of the irish society. >> (clapping.) >> thank you

first of all, i want to off the condolences of the entire irish community to mr. and mrs. boiling on the passing of their son tenors at the dinner the other night i coached terrance in soccer at scared high school i looked at terrance and he said i remedy you. you made me run a lot i was open again, it when i got the calls about the tragedy and i was happy that i made that approach to terrance but i have a bit of a personal request our grand marshall said he was up near the stage and a picture was taken care of him his son charley and terps he thought i took the picture i didn't it i

need to everybody to go on social media to get that picture to jerry please do me a favor welcome to everyone that came down thrombus they named the honored guests i don't have to repeat that i'm happy about that but i appreciate you all scooting here when i got up this morning and saw the rainy thought a light crowd that's not true i'm happy you took the time to come down here and celebrate with us celebrating the one anniversary of the 1916 rising and i do want to thank san francisco pipers that caught the wheeling and ken he will sorry and dan thank you for coming out putting on the festivals of the parade is a huge theatre my

director of public works and some of the assistants are awesome i appreciate it is pretty easy to sit at the table and take the ac lads and smile and shack machines but the people that do the work and the same thing for the city running are around from the sfmta myrtle did a great job and mayor be proud of your departments everybody stepping up and the individuals that get things done is amazing i also have diane ray and telling ma perez from the rec and park and chief joanne hayes-white for her staff getting the permits for the plaza and greg suhr at his staff station that captain lazarus and jennifer jackson and sergeant

marin and lynn and pat tobin you know they did a great job i would like to take the opportunity because law enforcement in the country has taken a hit thank you to greg suhr for the job his men and women do everyday for us and offer my congratulations and condolences for the new position that chief vicki hennessey took so thank you. >> (clapping.) >> i'd like to congratulate jerry boiling on becoming the grand marshall and ed and others as well as michael it is a huge honor to be named the grand marshall the honoree graurn but a lot of work and we appreciate that you agreed to not only be honored let us honor you for the work that is involved in that

now i make the presentations to the grand marshall is that what i do now by thank you. >> my second year first of all, call of jerry boiling. >> (clapping.) >> this is from certificate of honor presented to jerry boiling whereas on behalf of the city and county of san francisco i am pleased to recognize and honor jerry boiling for the contributions to the irish community my great privilege on the selection of the irish society of the for the city and county of san francisco for the san francisco salesforce thank

you. >> i'd like to thank the irish society for the honor i'm overwhelmed something i thought i'd never see or be in i would last week to say that san francisco is always been deeply involving in rirld or oirldz strewn for freedom and the rebel the incites of the red branch played their part in building up the rising the 1916 this shouldn't be forgotten i'd like to say that i especially am honored this year because it is the citizen neglect of the rising of 1916 and when you look at the irish flag and put it up remember it flew over the cities when the

bombs blasted it and the words of frederick we'll envelope be at peace without roirlgd being free. >> (clapping.) >> and our first honoree grand marshall michael during kin i'd like to bring his wife mary up and the whole family if they'd like 2:00 p.m. years on the city and county of san francisco i'm pleased to recognize michael to the community it is my great privilege and honor in his memory on the occasion by the unit irish sornt the san francisco as an honorary grand marshall of the one and 60 irish

day parade. >> (clapping.) >> and mike's daughter shannon thank you now i'll bring up the family of ed and maggie ma govern here comes bryan. >> (clapping.) >> big family he gets nomad to come up whereas think on behalf of the city and county of san francisco i'm pleased and honored to recognize those folks for the contributions of the rich american community it is my great privilege to hour their memory by the unit irish society as the grand marshalls of the one and 60 grand prayed congratulations to maggie congratulations . >> (clapping.) >> and this is the season to be irish the next couple weeks i invite everybody the city and in the

bay area to become irish and celebrate with us honoring the 1916 rising easter rising now i'd like to bring up kevin that has a gift for the mayor. >> just want to say would be quick thank you to who puts this on caitlin thank you so much caitlin. >> (clapping.) >> through san francisco's sister city runs a richer known as is lee river every other year we get something from the river we get whiskey for the mayor joy that gift and i know what you're waiting forfeiture. >> (clapping.) >> thanks everybody

and i want to on behalf of the city and county of san francisco i want to acknowledge the grand marshall or so and members to your families your dmronz and actually ms. boiling we have something to present to you if you come up on the honor of on the honor of one anniversary what we're celebrating it is really diversifying our condominiums first of all, on behalf of the city and county of san francisco the condolences for your loss this week and on the honor of this one anniversary we want to give you a copy of the irish declaration. >> (clapping.) >> so workplace we'll turn to the incredibly fun parts we're blessed to have a number of irish dancing groups and the

relishing pepper band first call up the murphy school of rich dancers with 35 members for one and 75 at any time welcome them forward. >> (clapping.) >> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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>> (clapping.) >> well, thank you very much and now i want to we have a few certifies of, however, for the wheeling i didn't kevinly group the irish dancers come on up >> (clapping.) >> and the murphy school of irish dance. >> (clapping.) >> >> (clapping.) >> as well as for the irish

pipers band in san >> (clappin) >> as well as for the irish pipers band in sa (clapping.) >> as well as for the irish pipers band in san francisco. >> (clapping.)>> >> (clapping.)>> (clapping.) >> as well as for the irish pipers band in san francisco. >> (clapping.)(clapping.) >> as well as for the irish pipers band in san francisco. >> (clapping.) (clapping.) >> as well as for the irish pipers band in san francisco. >> (clapping.) > well, thank you again for coming today, we'll wrap up a huge thanks for charlotte schultz the best dressed woman in san francisco and never fails to amaze amounts happy heritage month in san francisco and thank you, everybody for wearing green. >> want to say a tradition starts by supervisor el balboa park welcome to my office there is food and drink as well please come and enjoy it and happy

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you don't want to - one of the great things of san francisco it is neighborhood neighborhood have dentist corrosive are coffeehouses but 2, 3, 4 coffeehouses in month neighborhoods that are on their own- that's welcome to the smal business commission meeting. it is monday, feb 22. the start time is 2: 05. this is regular meeting of the small business commission and this afternoons meeting is televised live and the small business commission want tooz thank media service sf gov tv staff

for televising [inaudible] sf gov tv.org and click on watch sf gov tv 2. member oz thf public take the opportunity to silence phone squz electronic devicesism public comment is limited to 3 minutes per speaker unless otherwise established by the presiding officer of the meeting speaking. speakers are required to state name kwr yellow speaker cards on the table appreciated a and deliver the speaker cards up here on the edge of the rail. so, with that, sf gov tv can we have the slide, please? i got--i guess-there

we go. >> my turn. as is our new custom we begin and end each small business commission meeting with a reminder that the office of small business is sth thonly place to start your new business in san francisco and the best place to get answers about doing business in san francisco. the office of small business should be your first stop when you have a question what to do next. we provide free and won on one assistance to help achieve goal squz needs. the suchbss include a check list of required registration, permits licegence zoning requirements. we connect you to city funded business resources through various partnerships for the development of your business plan to access financing legal and technical support or any other

assistance thmpt office of small business is here to support through the many stages of business not just the beginic. we are here in city hall room 110, monday through friday. you can calloon the phone, 415-554-6134 or visit on line, business portal.sf gov. we provide service in english chinese and spanish. if you need assistance in small business matter start here. >> item 1 is call to order and roll call. commissioner adams, here. commissioner dooley. commissioner dwight, here. commissioner ortiz-cartagena, here. commissioner tour-sarkissian, here. commissioner zouzounis, here.

>> general public comment. this allows members to comments within the pursue oof the small business commission and suggest new ajepda items. this is the time to talk about things not on the agenda today so this is your chance. any members that would like to comment or make suggestions for things not on the agenda today? seeing none this public comment is closed. >> item number 3 is discussion and possible action to make recommendations to the board of supervisors on file number 160024. police and administrative code all jnder toilet facilities. this is a ordinance amend thg police code to mandate business squz places of public accommodation desinginate single user toilet facilities available to public or employee as all gender and accessible

personoffs any gender identity and require enforcement of the signage requirements by department of building inspection and require buildings on land that the city owns or leases to provide all gender toilet facilities. this is a action item for you commissioners and today we have carolyn goossen aid to supervisor campos office >> thank you for having me here today. i'm here representing supervisor compose. we have introduced and worked on so many monthwise advocates in the transjnder and disabilities and senior rights muni. this is a piece of legislation that is very common sense to increase zeens can safety in san francisco. we have a number of supervisors who cosponsored the legislation including

supervisor farrell, kim, mar and yee. what this law will do is require businesses and places of accommodation to identify any single room bathroom as a all gender bathroom. it dozen require a change in the fixtures of the bathroom, it is insureing through signage change anyone can access the bathroom. the reason is this a important issue particularly then transgender community relates to safety and violence the community experienced and then in term thofz seniors and disability community surround the often complicated negotiation if you have a tenant that is a different gender having to decide which bathroom to go in. this is relevant for parents of opposite gender children a well as mere broadly it is a instance women face and womens

have long restroom lines. essentially we feel this is very common sense. we are not the first to do it. a number of cities have already put forth such laws locally including in washington dc, philadelphia, austin, west holly wood, berkeley and new york. this is introduced at the state level recently and we have very strong support from a number of agencies. we worked with dbi [inaudible] here today as well carl rujohnson [inaudible] who work closely on this to make it is a comprehensive clear law that really works with dbi and human rights commission so there accountability measures that are clear but it is also very reasonable in terms of the process. we have support from

gtba, gtra,boma, hotel counsel, building inspection commission and youth commission and everyone said it is about time and have done this and why didn't we do it sooner. dba at early at 2005 had a department memo of bathrooms that are jnder neutral. we would love your support today and if it is okay i would love to have witch rich [inaudible] and carl rajohnson come up. unless you is questions. >> commissioner adams >> i just want to say-thank supervisor campos for this legislation t. is well overdue and i want to compliment on you on this, it the outreach. you went to dbi and golden restaurant association, you went to all the player jz

everybody supports this. including myself, so i just want to thank you and you guys did the right thing and how you got it out there with the public support and thank you. like i said, this is way long overdue >> thank rugina as well. one thing we will be doing is providing a fax sheet to insure it is very clear what small businesses have to do and it is a ujicational opportunity. we also made it so that it doesn't become implemented until 90 days until the legislation passes so we can insure everyone understand this is a simple change that is meaningful >> will you make a approved sign available on line so people can doneload and post it. >> this week i'll speak with local sign companies in san francisco to talk about making the sign-there are

variations of the sign you can post so we are talking about the signs that are really the most modern [inaudible] all gender for example and so we'll work with them to make sure it is easily available >> i think is t is best if it were available for free on your website so we know it suproouved and you can decide i want the fancy metal one or laminated one or print it out myself but i want to know what i'm buying is the approved format. todays printing it is easy to for free print out the sign and post it on the single door in the place of work and think that is fair as this is a wind fall for the sign making industry they get to make millions of signs >> i saw in berkeley where they have the blue sign and they have the

one with the sign at the bottom and [inaudible] it was half-and half. >> again, if you want to do one that is more graphically appealing that is fine but the bare minimum requirement should be available on line for free and for comparison. >> we can talk about--i think we should also hear from department of building inspection and/or carla around-sometimes the signage there are certain ada requirements of what is there and because of visual impairments so i think maybe we should hear-i don't know if carla or richard is the appropriate person to talk about. >> we get a pitch as a business owner every single year from companies that want us to post all the rule jz regulations, all this and that and guess what? it comes with, by

the way it is ix 5 dollars for this and 55 dollar for that and those thingerize just words and printed in the proper font and type and language that should be readily available to people. that is my suggestion. we have other commissioner comment so maybe we can get through those first. >> thank you, i echo my cocommissioners opinion about the wonderful initiative but i would like to go fl to the nitty-gritty how to help on the record so we have a understanding of how it applies to small business if you bare with me. so, we talking about public accommodations, what is in your opinion could you tell what a public accommodation is? does it apply to businesses, to buildings, to retail, why dont you define that clearly so we

understand. >> the think we did include a definition, but places where the public goes. we include businesses and schools and included any libraries, any place where the public would be entering and be going into. i think that aligns with state law around public accommodation definition >> i would like to help you but 121 a 1 and i printed that. when i go over there-it covers all retail, theater, concert hall, stadium, auditorium, bakeries, grocery stores, laundsry mats and covers build ings and professional offices, is that your understand? >> uh-huh >> is there any public place is a exception to your list so it is

clear so everybody understands it is a requirement? >> no. >> your understanding there is no exception correct? >> correct. >> we talking about the multi-user toilet facilities are an exception, correct? it says in paragraph that you have in the end it says multiuser tolet system may be identified as all jnder facilities but not required to be all gender. is that a exception to the ordinance? in other words, if you have a multi-using toilet facilities you don't have a requirement to have a signage- >> this is only for the requirement is only for single room restrooms, hoferb, there are cases now of

restaurants that are beginning to do this more and more and choosing to have multi-gender restrooms that are all gender so we are saying we don't prohibit you from doing that. you can allow to continue. >> if you are retail with multi-user toilet futilities are you required to have a third bathroom which is gender neutral in your opinion? because here it says multi-user toilet facilities may be all gender facilities and not required to be all gender. are we going to have to explain to retail that maybe they may end up having a third bathroom gender neutral? >> i appreciate it. >> it is important for retail to know what they center to do in 90

days. >> what you have to do within 90 days if you have a single room restroom with male or female sign you change the signage to reflect it is all gender. that is all. if and have two bathrooms one male and one female both are all gender. it isn't only you have one restroom that is all gender and use a bthroom for something else. we are not decreasing amount of bathrooms we say maintain the level of bathrooms you have and switch the signage to all gender. there is nothing anyone has to coo with regards to multi-stalled room. >> what is the requirement to have a male and female, when do you have the requirement to have a separate male and female restroom? i'm trying to find out if there is any case or

situation where you would have to have a third bathroom? under the law, when would you have to have a clear separation male and female toilet or bathroom? is there any-could you assure us in fact in a situation like this a third bathroom isn't required in your opinion? >> are you referring to the multi-stall restroom >> i think building code is what you are referring to and maybe richard can address that >> the other question would be could you desinginate a multi-stall- >> you can. the law says you is it choice but not obligated. >> you can use either one. >> rick halren, the supervisor of technical service division at

department of building inspection. we assisted the supervisor in developing this ordinance. to answer your question, the requirement for restrooms are dictated by it building code title 24 part 2 as well as california plumbing code. there is no-whatever fixture is there they are required to have that is what they are required to have. the ordinance does n't alter that. the only time where i would say they add a single user restroom is under chapter 11 b, 202.4 palth of travel upgrades which is a volunteer act to add a bathroom in lou of altering the existing sex restrooms but there is no requirement and this ordinance would not require

additional restroom or fixture be added. >> okay, so to sum up, it is no obligation to add a third bathroom any time? >> none what so ever unless the building code required it for other reasons. if the building code require frz other reasons we would do that but on this ordinance no, for not any reason >> could you give a example where a building code would require a third bathroom? >> if you doing a major alteration and mens and women rooms and have a feasibility altering the two restrooms the july 1 alteration to chapter 11 b allows for separate seperal unisex single user restroom to be installed. if that is the case the restroom would

fall into the ordinance and gender neutral >> for ada. if and are not compliant with ada law you can opt to install a third bathroom that meets the requirements >> that is only if you alter the existing tenant space. >> these 2 bathrooms are not ada compliant and have to add a third one? >> you could add a third one. >> if you can't make it compliant you have to add a third one. >> we do roir you provide some accessible restroom. >> you have to add a third one under this ordinance how would you make it all gender neutral or one of them gender neutral? >> the ordinance is a single neutral restroom and only required to add one and falls under this and the signage has to indicate it isope toon all genders.

>> another question i have if i may, how are you going plain all of this to the retail? to all the-those who have to comply, are you planning on sending mailers or is it published and posted on your website? how are you going to get the message out in 90 days? >> i have been asked by the deputy director ed sweeny to develop a brosure on how the ordinance work squz what signage is allowed and demonstrations of them and we will post on that our website as soon as this develops and forward a copy to the oufs of small business and distribute best we can from there and provide a copy to the supervisors as well. >> before you leave a lot of businesses we talk about also offices, public places, that may apply to

building owners so how are you going reach these people, businesses versus property owners, how will that pan out is a concern of mine? how do we prevent the people be in violation within 90 days? >> that is where we are going to be engaging all the stakeholders we have engaged throughout the process and get their help. we will reach out to you in the small business commission and make the information available at the city agency websites. we want to make sure this is a educational opportunity and not difficult for people so they have the information available. so, we intend to do outreach and welcome other suggestions. we can share all of the organizations we are plan toog work with and there are other ones we know of we would welcome that information so we can insure that the outreach

is sufficient. >> commissioner yee riley >> i think we discussed some of the question i have. this ordinance only apply to single user bathroom? >> yes, >> building or retail establishment they have ladies room and mens room they are not required to change the signage? >> exactly. these are wheniogo in there is one toilet and sink and you close the door and that is the only bathroom where this is applied >> i have seen a lot of those in the restaurants. why is this under the police code rather than the building? >> this was to insure and i don't know if you want to come to speak to that. this sadis cushion with sity agency. let me have carla talk to that a little bit. >> good afternoon commissioners, carla johnson, director at the mayors

office on disability and we had quite a lot of discussion about the best place to put the new provision and the police code was chosen because there is some prez dns. we have other provision in the police code enforced by department of building inspection. a good example is the noise ordinance. the reason it isn't in the building code really is that the state writers of the building code set forth only 3 exceptions for how you can modify the building code and you have to justify a lot of [inaudible] to the state building code based upon climatic, geo logic or top graphic issues. if you are subject to hurricanes you may modify the building code to put in greater resistance to hurricane and earthquakes you can be more seismically robust. top graphic in san francisco with all the hills you

may make exceptions on that. since this is a simple and elegant solution to address a equity issue about human rights the police code looked like the cleanest place to put the change. >> we can use social climate change. >> i think that is a excellent point to make. this is somewhat of a tsumami. >> commissioners any other questions? okay , public comment. >> i just wanted to add my hole hearted support and the appreciation the supervisor reached out to a variety of stakeholders including small business with regina and senior i

disability action and the mayor office on disabout. this is a issue that touches all of our core mandate squz a buft blend of #1i6b8 rights human rights and dignity for all people to use a facility with relatively little hastal. i heard a question about signage and wanted to answer that there are accessibility provision about signage and that is because under the ada if you have a sign intended for people that are sighted that sign needs to meet the people who are blind or low vision so the saneage would include things like race, character and braille characters so people that are blind know what facility. >> that is good to know. thank you. i also want to thank you. we

got a heads up on this early on and talked about it among our sevl squz constituents whether this would have effect on small business and it was determination it does not. any negative effect and it is all good so thank you very much. so, if you guys are done we'll ask for public comment. anyone from the public has anything to say about this item now is the time to do it. seeing none public comment is closed. commissioner adams >> i would make a motion to support board of supervisors file number 160024 as is. >> i'll second. >> roll call vote. >> role call. commissioner adams, yes. commissioner dwight, yes. commissioner ortiz-cartagena, yes. commissioner tour-sarkissian, yes. commissioner yee, riley, yes.

commissioner zouzounis, yes. that passes 6-0. >> thank you for your time today. appreciate it and i know more about bathrooms than i thought i would. on to the next item. >> item number 4 is discussion and possible action to make recommendation to the board of supervisors on file 150969, planning code the affordsability housing bonus program and again today we have cure steen disenjure from the planning department and sheila-i forgot how to say your last name. nick lop gose who is also here and then diana pauns day leown from office of economic and work force development. she won't make a presentation because it will be the same as what she did last time but is here to answer any questions you may have about the supportive programs we

have. >> great. welcome. >> good afternoon commissioners. regina were you able to make a copy of case reports from the commission? commissioners in the binder is the staff report. it is labled staff report and the first item after-ateitem 4. starting on page 14 hopefully it got flagged is the amendment. will be the amendment the amendments we'll discuss with the case report. >> okay. >> good afternoon. planning department staff. happy to be here to talk about affordable housing bonus program. last time we spent a lot of time making sure you understood the broader context and policy goals and the program itself and dove into small business concerns and issues. since we met we have done more thinking and work. we really

took the comments you made at thalast hear toog heart, worked with resigna and diana so we have proposed amendments represented in the case report to the commission and also will be talking about today. #2450es are recommendations our department are making to our commission that we think will enhance protection of small businesses. if it pleases the commission i'll do a quick overview of the program for the benefit 06 the public and dive into the small business commission question. if i can have the overhead. to start of course this is the heart of the program is about encouraging more affordable housing without public subsidy. we know we need more affordable housing. this program is one of the many tools the city has at its disposal to create affordable housing. it encourages up to 30 percent affordable

housing onsite privately subsidized by development potential. we target 3 different income levels, low, moderate and middle income with this program. each development would have at least two income levels served so the full 30 percent. as i said, this is one of the many programs. these are some of the ofert programs the more traditional affordable housing programs that serve households that are very low income households. the majority about 88 percent the existing housing supply, service these households. this program proposes to continue building low and moderate income as our current inclusionary program and add a middle income band. again thrks

program is a little-has many different options for project sponsors, one is implement the state density bonus law. that is what we call the state [inaudible] program and that encourages projict sponsors to provide 13-20 percent affordable unit. while we were evaluating that there were more need for affordable housing so we developed the local program that encourages project sponsors to provide up to 30 percent affordable housing for a additional development incentive of two stories. of course this program benefits the one or two hundred percent affordable projects entitled each year. at our last commission hearing together there is a lot of

conversation about you know, how do you understand the scale of the program, what sites will be impacted, how are you so sure what scale the program will be or how many units will be generated so i wanted to walk you through where we started figuring out where the program will apply and how we focused on the soft site. the map in front of you is the entire city, so the entire city is in the state of california so the state density bonus law applies in this area. that is where we started but we wanted to understand where the program would apply. the first thing we did is remove parcels managed by redevelopment agency or already had a development agreement. these are parcels not under the planning code jurisdiction.

then we removed the zoning districts like light industrial, pdr and commercial that don't allow residential units at all. and then we removed our recent area plans where density limits converted to height and bulk limit so much of [inaudible] again, industrial districts. some industrial districts like you can have housing as a ce rks but those sites are unique and considered separately so they are not eligible. rh 1 and rh 2 by far and away the biggest portion of our city which only allows one or two units of housing. generally the state law saws 5 unit or more so these are

ineligible from the state law. we are focusing on on the state law where does the city need to enable the state law and have a ordinance that enacts it. and so, you probably have seen this map in turquoise and this is what you have seen in the tor quoiz version. all the areas we talked about are out due to state law or some other consideration. the next thing we did is remove parcels that have a category a historic resource and so there are 3 designations in the city, there is a, no resource, c, known not to be a resource, bay far and away the largest pool is category b and it means we don't know. we

haven't done the historic survey on the propertiesism before any development project through this program or any other program can be pursued on one of those sites we do an evaluation and determine if it was a, known historic resource, not eligible or c not a resource eligible. this gives a sense this reduces the number of parcels that are eligible for the program. supervisor breed proposed a amendment that our department and the mayor and supervisor tang all supported which was to remove eligibility for rent controlled units. that dramatically reduced the number of parcels eligible for the program. and in response to a lot of community conversations and conversations at the commission and with our commission, we have taken this idea that supervisor breed introduced and moved it further which is

to say we'll not demolish any belding with a residential unit if they are using this program. any site in the city of san francisco that has currently a residential unit is ineligible to participate in the affordable housing bonus program. there are two things going on, one is trying to protect the existing housing stock which may have affordable by the age or nature and two, protecting neighborhood character. i think the historic preservation piece is strong but some are wordied about things that are not category a but important contributes to the neighborhood. we can achieve 5 thousand affordable housing unit through program while putting the restriction ibplace. in fact, when the team did the soft set analysis to understand the scale of the program, we always assumed a site with a

residential unit on it isn't developed under the program so this doesn't change the outcomes but provides security and assurety for the existing residents so we'll present that our commission and they will formulate their recommendation to the board of supervisors. realizing the overhead is very-the slides are challenging to see so i have paper copies if we can switch to the overhead. i don't know if that shows any better. sf gov tv-great. just to recap where we were, this is the map without the historic resources that are eligible. the colored

parcels are eligible for the program. when you remove rent control you can see that diminishes it. then when you remove all residential unit it further diminishes eligibility parcels. there was a request from the commission to understand exactly where this will happen. like precise lay which spot in the city and that is actually very challenging for us to articulate or know. what we are really good at knowing is about the scale, about the general impact that might happen. what we have done in the past and i described at the last hearing is a soft site analysis so after we

reduce all the parcels dependent if they are eligible we look at what is on the site and say, what is the potential height versus what is there now and is the difference between those two is 5 percent, if only 5 percent the total site is utilized, then it is considered soft or potentially developable. there are about 240 sites in the program area that are having this ratio or under developed. we think that is a good proxy for the sites and amount of development that will happen but don't think those exact sites will be the 240 sites and let me explain why. every gas station in the program area will show up as soft fwut know we will need gash stations in the future along the corridors so know the gas stations will remain gas station. there will be other buildings that are 7 or 9 percent soft but not well maintained or

healthy buildings for whatever reason and those are the one we might flip. we use the 240 sites to understand the approximate scale. at this commission requested that we release the list of those sites and so we have a memo available to share with you on that account. it really describes in detail the process was we want to make abendantly clear while we make this information available we don't anyone to see their address on there and perceive their site as definitely will be developed because there are a number of steps that need to take place, there is private transaction and will to have this happen and this program is a little challenging to make happen. i want to remind you of the outcomes. can we switch back to the powerpoint? this is one of the sites at

david baker architects that build wg the red line is what could be developed on the soft site right now. right now it already has the potential to house 47 units, but ont 6 are affordable. this is under today s control and clearly more than a single story or vacant parking lot so it is soft by todays standards. when you add the two additional stories you have 65 units, of which 20 are affordable. definitely more units, definitely higher cost to subsidize the 20 affordable units versus 6. the point i'm trying to make here is that, there are some sites in the city that are soft now that will redevelop whether we have this program in place or not. this program affords the city the opportunity to say, should

you choose to develop that soft site, we would like to see a higher percent of affordability when that happens. and then there are implication for small businesses. i think we talked about that a little bit but we really want to as a city maintain our neighborhood character and really protect our existing small businesses. so, i want to review what our current proposal as drafted and introduced includes and then additional recommendations that we are asking the commission to consider and include. so, in working with our friends at oewd and regina we learned a lot about what happens to a small business when they find out they need to relocate and i think we learned the most from the soft story experience that you were all learning on now which

is, early notice and lots of time to plan really makes a difference so we put in a requirement that the project sponsors notify current tenants as soon as they apply to the planning department for their first environmental review document. under the theory that letter which says by the way, here are 3 main organizations that can help you find support and do technical assistance will help the business develop the transition plan. we are pointing out the businesses qualify for cb 3 p and they go down to relocate and move through planning and building process as quickly as possible as they are a existing business if they qualify. this is a reminder of the process so the red box is when the first notification to the

commercial tenet would hap squn you can see they have to go through planning review, ceqa, neighborhood notification and public hearing. before i go into the suggested remation tooz the commission, there were a few specific questions from the group last hearing, one around the 240 soft sites, the other is exactly how much commercial space will you generate under this program. it is again a bit of a crystal ball exercise for the team. we took a look at the 240 soft sites and assume some have commercial ground floor because they are not neighborhood commercial district but those that are we said well, let's assume they will dedicate 20 to 30 percent of space to commercial space. we didn't make that number up, we looked at all the-roundering

dairfbuds baker did and you have to put a drauj grauj and driveway in circulation to the top of the ploor and the percent he designed the build squgz they range from 20 to 50 so we tested that and if they went to the average amount we generate 8400 square feet. that is total so there would be some reduction for change from existing uses. again, we talked about this last time but i want to remind you there are a number of controls in the affordable housing bonus program that address the streetscape design for neighborhood commercial corridors. any praunlect entitled to the program will benefit from that. alright, go back to

the amendments. your case report has them in detail. these are the high level summary. the first is pretty straight forward. first rate of refusal for existing commercial tenant, so if they really value being in the location and they are interested in either relocating temporarily or some other thing for the construction period they have the first right to come back. the second thing, we worked hard with the city attorneys and believe we can require a relocation fee that is commensurate with the federal relocation act. that is tosay, if a mall business is notified they need to rolocate for new construction they are eligible for a fee to help with the rolocation from the project sponsor not

the government. work wg rejena and deanna we heard earl notification is important but when you think about all the steps we need 18 months and so that is what we proposed. say not just early notification but give the full 18 month warning. finally, i this can we had a lot of conversations to make sure how the replacement store squz new commercial space is of scale and character and support the small businesses we like and so we kind of came up with this proposal to say the commission, it is up to their discretion to reduce the xhrjs space or requirement it if the public feels like it is a good contribution to the neighborhood. so, again those four recommendations and the exact

language of the case report and that should be before you. so, at this point our presentation is over. we welcome discussion and public comment. thank you. >> thank you. i have one question or maybe a couple. so, first off, i'm-the biggest challenge for small owners is uncertainty so the question is the list of 240 sites as it has been described, is that-does that list-i understand there are potentially sites on that list that will not be developed for a variety of reasons either the owner doesn't want to do it or doesn't pencil out for the own squr the developer how they want to develop the site. they may just not want to do it. it is happening in my neighborhood where owners are saying i want this to be a art gallery and that is what we'll develop and flot consider any other uses. the question is, is this

at least a peek at the sites that are candidates? is this the definitive list of potential candidates not to say that they will be developed but if i look on the list and see my business on that list do i know that my building is a possible candidate? >> yeah, i think that is why it is really challenging to figure how to share the list because we don't want to create that perception that if you are on the list you are a potential candidate and you are off like not. no, this is like a high level analysis of the entire sit ato understand where development might happen. as you we just talked bethat art gallery, there are a number of sites specific transactional issues and they could be neighborhood specific, they could be community specific that really makes this tool more of a proxy than a predictor if that makes sense.

i have been work wg the chief economist ted eagan and he shared preliminary research in the past month or so has found that all most- i think he said 60 percent-don't quote me -of our pipeline or future housing development will happen on sites that are 5 percent soft and he said zero percent will happen on sites that are 30 percent soft where the ratio of existing to future is 30 or more. there is the sort of-then it comes down to site specific like exactly what is happening, and what is the u.s. and use and how is it utilized. there is no definitive in or out whether you are on the list just like there isn't today. without the program there is no definitive will my landlord or property owner

decide to develop. >> i guess the-i just the issue i have is we have gone through great pains to identify a list of 30 thousand plus sites and to net that down to 240 candidate sites and yet those may or may not be candidate sites so it is a level of uncertainty i have to tell you in the meetings i have been in the public realm and some of which you and your colleagues presented at, the especially the merchant associations are very concerned about the potential impact. it comes to uncertainty. matter of fact that is a reoccurring theme with all legislation that may effect small business that is the uncertainty that is the gut wrenching part. once you kneyou know and you start planning because if you

are out you start planning and if not i stop worrying about it. that is where a lot of the ongoing debate is going on outside of the this room so i just bring that to your attention and sure you probably already know it. the other question i had is there is discussion about combining contig ws lots and the question came up could someone combine rh 1 and 2 properties to get to 5 lu plus unit however what i heard you say is all residential propertyerize excluded and therefore it doesn't matter if you combine residential properties because they are not candidates anyway >> rh 1 and 2 are not elg frl the state or local program >> this precludes someone from buying adjacent properties and somehow getting in under the 5 plus unit

>> they woulden be eligible. >> that good to knee know. i guess this applies to free staning commercial buildings and/or empty lots? >> per the recommendation we are making to the commission, anything without a residential use is eligible. >> again, if i'm a business owner and i got people living up stairs above me i'm safe? >> right, with that recommended amendment that would protect that small business. >> that is a recommended amendment that is not part the legislation? >> you know, i think it is for this commission to endorse or support that if you feel it is helpful >> i'm strictly trying to get to the algorithm for determining whether i'm at risk or not and i will consider myself at risk until i know otherwise if i'm a business owner and so

i'm going to go to that list regardless if i'm told it isn't the definitive list but i will go there because i want to know at least if i'm on that list for lack of any other information. so, i guess we are sort of left again sort of with this uncertainty that with or without the list we are not certain we are on the list as acon candidate or whether we are a candidate as a business owner? >> right now the city currently has zoning controls where people can seek development of a site so i think what you might be asking is, does this program sort of change the economics for a set of property owners that might make them more likely to develop a site sthai they are not likely to develop today and that is where i

really-what i'm trying to underscore is the affordable housing you need to subsidize is pretty evening matched with the additional development potential so the economics on a site remain pretty consistent. so, there is isn't a definitive list. the list we provided in the memo for you is the parcels that are only 5 percent developed, so they from birds eye view are more likely to have financial incentives to development. >> commission tour-sarkissian. >> thank you for your presentation. helped me a lot from the previous presentation. i have however just to clarify questions about your recommended additionals. so, the first one

the required existing businesses afforded first right of refuse for commercial space. is that the same space or smaller space or how is that going to work out and let me finish that question about the site and then we'll go to the next. can it be different rate? we discussed that last time so one is, is there a minimum space we would guarantee for this business and what would be the rental rate applicable if in fact the business will have a first right of refusal >> lots of big questions. i think what we are really trying to do when we officially put that in the planning code and regulate there is a requirement that a business has for refusal is open up sth

conversation between the project sponsor and the commercial tenant to really figure out what types of needs might that small business have and how can having that small business as a tenant help form the design of the ground floor and really to be honest how the project sponsor work with the community to the show they are interested contributing to the community. there isn't a existing requirement or rent control for commercial spaces so that rental rate would be fair market rent and that would again be the private contract between the existing business and the project sponsor. >> so, the recommendation that you proposing would it at least guarantee the space that the business-displaced business would get back because

if the business is occupying 3 thousand square feet and that business will have only 1200 how is that option going to be first right of refusal, be practically workable for that business if that business was using a space that is not going to be able- >> [inaudible] >> equivalent. i just want to know what your recommendations are, first the minimum and second, the ordinance is not going to make it as a condition for the rate that would be applicable for the business to come back. in other words, the rate is not a condition, however how about the space? >> i think that is a interesting question. while you were talking about that i was going through that in my mind. i think there are a lot of interesting dimensions about that we could add. i have concerns

about being too prescriptive. i imagine if there is a building single story and covers a entire lot, if there a multistory building we need to dedicate some of the ground floor to get to the top. what percentage is the right amount? i don't know. i think maybe there is language you can help craft and out of the recommendation which is first right refusal or a language that acnaumgs the practicality but meets the intent you are describing. >> since we are advocates for small business i would be interested in finding out what the city attorney would propose in going to the maximum protection of that retail business. so, i don't know- >> [inaudible] >> second recommendation is the

recommended the board of pr supervisor direct the relocation fee. just a point of clarification and the recommendation is relocation fee for a business that won't come back or equally applicable to the business relocated until the project is completed? >> [inaudible] expercent on relocation act but believe it applies for your first move so if you choose to the come back you still benefit from that relocation fee. >> in other words, if you have to move across the street or at a distance and you exercise the option to come back you still benefit from the relocation fee? >> we can double check, she gave the head nod but can check. wree modeling after the federal standard but

don't have to implement it exactly so think we can implement the spirit of what you are talking about. >> the first move, it doesn't cover the round trip probably? >> yes, so-in other words, if the business does not come back or comes back it shouldn't matter, the business should benefit from the relocation fee. that is my question and i hope your answer is the business could and would benefit from the relocation regardless of what it does as to exercising the option to occupying a space. >> i believe that is the standard of the federal relocation act but we coo make that the standard for ours and that is a recommendation you may want to add-a clarification you may want to add to any remations you make. >> there is also a cap on the

federal relocation, on the budget for the move so if you are a large hardware retailer as we heard from a previous speakers last time that is a more substantial move or if a manufacturer, that is a more substantial move than a service business potentially i guess. >> you gave that example mr. president last time about having to move across the street and being kind of a burdensome process so i want today make sure that that relocation fee would apply regardless. i think the issue of and this is my closing comment, the issue of giving a option to a business should be workable option, so the fact the business will come back the city attorneys office should consider all the available avenues to protect the small business in that record. >> we have any other commissioner

comments before we open up for general public comment? commissioner [inaudible] >> thank you again for the presentation and for looking closer at the recommendations. i think i had a similar question as my fellow commissioner about if someone wasn't going to come back into that space and collect on that compensation what other options could be available. also if someone doesn't fit into the streamlining program for small business because there are a number of businesses it doesn't apply to given the business model. one thing that came up was maybe looking into tax credit and not just a property tax incentive moving back into a space but

small businesses pay a tax to the sate-i'm not a expercent so it is something i'm posing as exploration but one time tax credit or some other compensation if someone does not come full circle into that relocation. >> we can look into that for sure. thank you. >> commissioners any other comments? now we have public comment. i imagine there are member thofz public that would like to comment. if you have a speaker card we'll collect them up front. looks like we have some in hand >> so, first we have dennis ant nory who will read a statement into the record on behalf of dennis maus copeian >> thank you very much commissioner. dennis was planning being here

today but fell ill this morning and he wrote up the comment and second me to present them so that is what i'm doing. i'm here on behalf of san franciscans for community planning. my name is dennis maus cofeian. we approve the proposed amendment to ban demolition of residential units not just rent controlled but thiz dunt have the support thf mayor, the supervisor tang or board of supervisors. some changeerize responsive to community and merchant crit isism however they fail to remove the remaining and most threatening provisions. we incest there is no mandatory of viable retail buildingsism planning continues to proposal up zoning all 30, 500 properties. planning department estimates should rent controlled housing and anone historic resource building it will remove 19, 300

yet the department insists on upzones all 30, 500 parcels. this has 2 consequencess that will leave 11, 200 buildings subject to demolition and displacement of businesses and establish a lice squns zoning law for future demolition and displacement. finally, the 240 soft sites is made up number and false front for the pr development proposal. half sites occupied by businesses [inaudible] 240 was a guess. we believe that preserving viable neighborhood service businesses should be policy. the amendment to provide small relocation fee eveern if conform toog the uniform act is unlikely [inaudible] doesn't remove the threat of displacing viable neighborhoodss.

it puts a price tag on doing that. it does want relieve the very high likelihood of the permanent closure of such local small businesses. planning staff continues to insist on one size fits all inconsistent with preserving neighborhood character in up fp zones and size of construction, even with suggested amendments the program will impose a one size fits all on neighborhoods and permanently alter the neighborhood of our unique neighborhoods. the requirement of [inaudible] this requirement of demolition is contrary to preserving. a couple statements by dennis were different in the staff recommendations made today >> thank you very much. appreciate you reading that for dennis. next up. >> next is ellen bokeen and

dennis antinory and paul weber. >> thank you for coming out. >> my name is arlean boke nl and resident of sun set park site district. i join the neighborhood [inaudible] opposing the affordal housing density program as stated. at the last meet g ing commissioner dwight asked for solution jz believe there is one. currently the affordable housing program for demolitions only. based on the sunshine request there is a planning department document from one stage of the process which refers to thoest demolitions and additions to existing buildsings. i urge the department to reinstate the

addition to existing buildings provision. adding to a existing buildings is disruptive to the neighborhood service business, i believe it would be a even more discorrupt disruptive for the business to relocate. and urge the commission to move forward with a negative or neutral recommendation. thank you. >> by the way just a reminder public comment is limit today 3 minutes. that is a way to make it equal for all and appreciate when you read your comment. thank you elsqun dennis for reading because it keepatize nice and concise because the objective is get written into public record so the better you are preparing your comments in advns and reading them here, the better they are represented in the public comment. with that-

>> dennis antinory and [inaudible] >> i is a copy of denniss comments to submit as well. i really like to acknowledge that the staff has made a lot of changes recommended by our group . they don't in my view go far enough and some of them are rather ineffective to accomplish the goals they state. the question keeps coming up and don't know why wego back to the 240 so called soft sites because there are many many other soft sites within the effected areas even with the exclusion. in my neighborhoods there are 30 one story businesses with no residences above them. some are in buildings that are commonly owned and 4 businesses within one building owned by the same

landlord. that landlord would be under this program very tempted to displace those businesses. so, this idea of a right of first refusal doesn't work if someone has no way to go some place else and can't wait two years. what do they do in 2 years? once the business is isplaced it will be extremely difficult to relocate or return to that site. the uniform relocation act by the way just for interest was adopted in response to san francisco's redevelopment project in the western addition. it was put in by john burton who was then a very influential member of congress and to responds to the fact that even though there were provisions to protect smalls business within the provisions of the redevelopment agency movement, that those were

completely inadequate and we lost numerous small businesses. the question is, if you look at the provisions the uniform act there are better than nothing but if you look at them and take from the pracktdical standpoint of a business they are not enough. even though they provide for provisions for paying for loss of personal property and for general expenses of relocation, they are not going to save many businesses. they may sieve some but not many. there is no control on rents as commissioner points out, so even with the right of relocation-first refusal we don't know what the rent will be. if the rent are considerable higher than business isn't going to be able to return. the other question i have is not answered by all of this but occupancy by businesses is based on

leases, so the notice provision of 18 months doesn't have a lot of application in many instances where a lease provides for the length of the term--thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> good afternoon, paul weber and here on behalf of telegraph hill developers. as you know in our neighborhood we have a large number of small businesses and retail have nothing but small business. i have been asked to read a letter from the basically the umbrella organization for business groups which i'll do now and that may take my time. it is letter addressed to supervisor cohen, peskin and wiener who comprise

the land use committee. the president write, writing on behalf of san francisco district merchant association to inform you about the-at our meeting last week on february 16 shealy [inaudible] from the city made a presentation supporting a [inaudible] and dennis [inaudible] san francisco community activist group opposed it. we strongly support the building of affordable housing but not at the expense of possibly losing businesses by virtue och developers demaunshing new buildings. we have many concerns including the impact own utilities, transportation and parking. we voted to not support the legislation as proposed and urge you to do

likewise and to recommend further study and input from the small business community. if i have any time left i will echo some of the comments dennis made. as relates to north beach. our businesses in that area for the most part are small but i'll note the proposal by the staff doesn't identify or articulate watt what type of businesses would get the business of this. would safe way get the business of this or is it just small and what are the definitions of small? secondly, while dennis points out there -the uniform relocation act provides some relief, it doesn't provide the equivalent of what is a resident would be-have his or her property

preserved subject to state law which is permitted to be demaunshed anyway. the program for small business doesn't include that. most the suggestions made by staff in the latest proposal which they are cemded for making the effort are ideas, they are not legislation. here we are on the eve trying to get this passed with page squz pages of ideas that haven't been vetted. [inaudible] brought a idea, how about including each of the displaced businesses in the cities legancy program? do they get a extra50 thousand a year because if not they get market rent competing with legacy businesses that receive 50 thousand a year from the general fund. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker.

>> commissioners jim laz rth san francisco chamber of commerce. voted in support the concept behind the legislation. the devil is in the details but clearly if we are going increase housing stock of all types steps like this have to be taken and 49 square mile city where infill is the primary way we can see significant changes in density to meet the demand. it is demand not only in the general sense but i think you can lose site of the fact that small businesses and all employ oars need to be concerned with the employee of the future will live. will they live in san francisco or close by or is that employee taking transit from central valley get

to the work place? affordable housing effects the ability to attract and retain and pay for a employee so i urge you to support the consthofept legislation and work through the details as setforth by the planning department staff. i think there is huge progress. clearly it preserves housing of all types. it will preserve the vast majority of single use commercial buildings in most the neighborhoods of historic nature. it will focus on those vacant sites, the parking lots, the former used car lot, the gas station and to some degree in the future subject to all types of planning and appeals pross processes we have in san francisco. nobody

will demolish the one story building on cumeant street wut going through years of process to see whether the planning department and board of appeals will ever support the project in the first place. i thing this is a great step to improve the availability of housing throughout the city especially in infill neighborhoods where we otherwise wouldn't see new housing. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, [inaudible] pat valen teeno and copresident of south beach mission bay merchant association here in support the affordable housing density program. there are a couple things we need to think of from the big picture level. number one, we don't have in place a strong program or any program that produce middle income housing which is critical for

small businesses as mr. lazarus pointed out where do the employees and business owners live and middle income folks are probably the type that will stick around and build families and utilize retail. we are also talking about a program that is looking at building neighborhood scale buildings with affordable housing and ground floor retail. this is a long term view that creates a neighborhood that has everything where people live and work and where they shop. it again will improve a great opportunity for retails over the long term. there are certain details that need to be worked out. it is my understanding that these sites could get-if the program doesn't happen some of the sites could get developed anyway without benefit of the program so think we are much better off if the program gets passed from to

build a perfective of affordable housing numbers and how we get more middle income unit out there and make small businesses better off in the long run. i think we made a mistake becoming a car oriented san francisco in certain parts the city and this is a way to bring back into certain areas a great walkable neighborhoods where people live work and shop so we support and thank you so much. >> thank you. do we have any other members of the public? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner, any other comments. commissioner ortiz-cartagena. >> i want to thank staff for the presentation and i know you have done a lot of outreach and thank you for that. i like the spirit the legislation and the thought that went into it and we need things like that, we need proactive approach the mayor and supervisor tang is doing to solve our

housing problem. my concern is the uncertainty with this legislation. i sit here on the commission to help small business and the impacts these legislation have on small business. there is a great uncertainty on the impact. 240 isn't a hard number so we dont know the new commercial the legislation will bring. my concern is it does attract developers that may be able to increase the potential where yes they can develop the properties but the properties become more enticing. from a housing advocate the word is net new. i don't truly see the net new. if a developer wants to go flow a process they can go for a variance. i'm still concerned, i love the spirit of the legislation just concerned of the uncertainty the hard numbers of the legislation. >> it is interesting, as we

look at-talked about it potential sites it is said some are empty lots and if you were doing this in your own little domain you may say i will develop the empty lot first because what do i get? a get x number of housing and x amount of retail. now i go to the next lot and displace people and move them into the building i just built because i more than enough space. if you start with the empty sites and created more density in housing and business space and did a orderly moving around of the deck chairs the challenge i see here is if we start with the occupied spaces we immediately displace people even if there is a site down the street we will develop and it is empty today. if we had a-if we were to rationalize

and optimize to minimize displacement we would start with the empty lots first. another approach is make sure in any area we attempt to start with the empties before we start with the occupies. just a potential. >> i heard your concerns and just wanted to share a dill i'm not sure i presented which is this program and the legislation includes very detailed monitoring so there is a aneral report where we talk about sort of how many unit are developed in the program, proposed and titled and where they are happening and that enables to right course if we see a trend with the right sites are not happening or not getting the level of affordability or other

issues we haven't contemplated in this #r5078 or other rooms, we have a annual opportunity to have a discussion. we have a 5 year check in where we dive in and look at the presumptions of the program and make sure we move in the right direction because all of the hard work we put in is trying to leadtuse a goal and if it dozen we need know right away. >> i appreciate your rfts on that but we are here with a problem that our predecessors didern forsee and it is like the titanic, once the cat is out of the bag it is hard to turn the ship around. once we do something we can't rectify it. the spirit of the legislation is amazing and like the people in the city government are proactive in creative way, if

there are no details that is where the concern lies, the actual hard details. >> commissioner adams, >> i want to reiterate what commissioner ortiz-cartagena and [inaudible] i support the spirit the legislation because now it is scary in the town for middle income housing. you have plenty low income housing and high income housing, there is nothing in the middle and it is getting scary. again, i have friends coworkers everybody is moving out to ant ocand brentwood and hour and a half crazy commutes in the morning. i very appreciative of the mayor and supervisor tang getting this in and i would like to move forward with this, but i just need to have more questions asked because some of the businesses in the last couple weeks called me

and am i on the list, will i lose my business? i can't afford to relocate and i really like your idea of tackling president dwights idea of tackling the vacant lots first if we can start with that. start small and then move on and have the legislation written that way. there are a lot of vacant spaces even on the west side. i drove out next to the safeway store on nor ega and there is a empty lot next door, build there first and some the empty gas station lots, build there first and have their affordability and build high and move from there. that is my two cents. >> commissioner tour-sarkissian. >> again, i would like to congratulate you for your efforts and this wonderful presentation that you made. in

fact, i obviously the spirit of this effort and this law is the right one. i echo what my cocommissioners said but i have yet another question to ask if you donts mind. clarification so that i was wondering and forgot to ask the question is about the new commercial space that is on page i believe on page 23. talked about commercial space under [inaudible] just out of curiosity is that a net increase? >> that's the total new commercial space that we are projecting conservatively would be generated through the 20 year period. >> in addition to what is in existence? in other words it is a net

gain? >> it isn't net new, it is total production. i think-i don't remember the numbers but think it was half of the sites do not have structures so half of that is net new and the remainder is addition or-- >> i thought so. and then for my own education, what is the teacher next door down payment assistance? >> i give a high level. this is a program the mayors office of housing and community development and home ownership is a very difficult thing for people to achieve especially with lower income and the biggest challenge is the down payment so there are programs that help with the down payment and this is one for teachers which we all value ha