aggressively our eliminating people that are not just in wheelchairs but eliminating the people that have other health issues and safety issues now at the hot corners like those mentioned particularly market and mission that is where you should be working hard and safety you should be working hard on the garages that are having break-ins and assaults like wall to the safety of people there will be murders pretty soon i'll guarantee you must look at the broad picture. >> thank you very much i see mr. wiener approaching the podium. >> herbert wiener one comment about pedestrian safety what

about bicyclists riding on the sidewalk people have been struck by bicyclists they don't report to mta but a significance of people being ensdarthsz by people on the sidewalk you can advocate pedestrians being struck by automobiles, bicycle can be just as dangers in someone gets struck by a bicycle it could be deadly you have to include that and skateboards i have a lot of stuff to include on that and just because a bicyclist has an influence with that body didn't make them right when they strict other people and don't be surprised with the bicyclists strict other people they'll not be attacked in retaliation for the interest of everyone including the bicyclists you have to include that if your plan thank you.

>> thank you, mr. wiener any other public comment i see one other person couple of. >> good afternoon alyssa speaking as a concerned citizen i was going to mention this in another part of meeting it's been mentioned the whole beyond a reasonable doubt of of vision zero didn't work since there are more fatalities than as at least as many consider having on independent study what the effects have been it's been a in operation for a couple of years why haven't more fatalities gone down but staying the same and going up may not be working maybe we need another plan to protect the pedestrians and one of the ideas that came up yesterday, i guessed it is used in some areas are four-way stop strablz and the downtown area i

understand one is tried an columbus 3 maybe a better solution cheaper and not taking a lot to put that into effect maybe this is a a this is a test not a multiple million dollars project. >> thank you. any other. seeing none, move on ms. bloomer >> madam chair next is item 8 this is the advisory committee report i don't see mr. weaver here item 9 general public comment this time, members of the public may address the commission items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, we'll start with jean (calling names). >> hello, i'm the owner and of

o'farrell street between formally and olive on polk i spoke about the concerns of the bike lanes i think that was misrepresented when you were told that there were one driveway there is actually 4 businesses and driveways on a short block we are still concerned and want someone to come back and see why we're concerned about moving the bike way outside of driveway. >> (calling names). >> good afternoon directors i'm michelle alexander i'm the president of the board of walk sf on behalf of the walk sf i'm here to talk about the watering

down the el terryville it is a high injury corridor over half of the pedestrians hit on 2013 were on and off the terryville train of the 24 people hit awhile getting on and off 6 were teenagers or 2 were 14 years old and ta proposed adrc boarding island at all stops walk sf stronger supports this proposal none should have to step off a train into boarding traffic the boarding islands are under attack by the parking relocation that will happen when the island are adam feel fortunate all spots will be replaced within one block of taraval unfortunately, the push

back is so strong the original proposal is water down now part of a pilot instead of the boarding islands will have paint next to the train that is something like the transit boarding area that paint will not keep pedestrians save safety we shouldn't compromise open we urge you to add do boarding idles added altering value stops and make the safety improvements before another life is lost if we were serious about reaching vision zero we must do that. >> next speaker >> those are the last 3 people that turned in speaker cards. >> good afternoon directors to your knowledge thanks for the opportunity to speak i'm a career cab driver on the board of directors of the yellow cab to ask you to

consider waving the annual medallion we struggle to make ends meet and especially those who paid the full price it is not fair to how far us one thousand dollars renewal fee when the city allows the tdm invasion not fair that we are in case he would and diamond the same time the tax collection doesn't demand a driver's license from the thousands of parties we're hurting more than last year so i really urge you to consider waving the very expensive medallion fee thank you very much. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> (calling names).

>> good afternoon howard i heard that it is going to be shutting down the formally garage for this necessary improvements and repairs i see this is a good opportunity for testing the need for parking downtown if you were to close it for a long term announce the closer and so what happens that is 3 percent of all the parking downtown and to disclose is for a long time let's see what the other private garages do with their prices per parking will it go up or shutting down a how much of parking spades increase the total net will you want to raise the parking meters fees is that parking really necessary we're the transit rich place of world and so people can have access to

a garage it is a good time to think about this if not a dock transit paper but a masters people get someone to study and cooperate and accumulate the data let's see all the parking does it mean anything will constitute u smutd a brarg reduce congestion maybe you have to deal with the tmc they may step in and provide deals because of the parking spaces prices go up you'll have those things are connected the city of san francisco the people of city of san francisco you guys are in charge we give you our streets for better transit and less congestion and better safety this is our job maybe that is the place to do the research but use this time i don't know

they'll have to do a lot of stuff. >> thank yo >> thanks a lot. >> herbert wiener the last person to turn in a speaker card for general public comment and mr. wiener and herbert wiener i nodded that now there is this project for a deal that is self-driving and i am wondering how the squares of the policy with the mta now you eliminated at least 20 thousand parking spaces and where will the cars find a place to park and the deal the all you can't have to both ways, and, secondly, he notice that now the two complementing bus iron will no longer you'll replace that with a two sutter line and the planning is rational but you

don't take the human impact take into consideration maybe walk sf likes the people will be forced to walker long distance but not ms. christensening applying to the seniors and disabled but paratransit is over loaded any opinion that basically this is the equivalent or bombing 50 thousand feet in the air you don't see the human impact maybe the planners should go to work would for the strategic air plan and mission can be accomplished the drone program is other opportunity but this is not the way to go your destroying public transportation in san francisco i won't say thank you. i'll say no thank you. >> thank you, mr. wiener.

(calling names) >> i don't think you're looking at the bigger picture i go out to daily stay all the time when i get to a corner they have the beeping sounds so far the blind and the hard of hearing we don't have them we need to do - project programs like this so that all people are included we had a push bottom for the seniors to cross lombard we had a push bottom it worked all of a sudden all the buttons have disappeared we're not looking at the big picture particularly market and mission

you can't hear hardly anything but if you put the loud beeps more people had been save take care of the elderly and the infirmed and blind okay. thank you. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> last person to turn in a speaker card. >> i basically came here i believe the last meeting he requested some kind of a change the noticing system and i was approached by katherine disshe said, yes maybe look at that so i take into account it and here's what we actually have now i'm going to give you the big picture now we have to tell people once you've made the change manage to put those up their rather larger but really easy to see from every direction

that did buses that stop are no longer here this is what you're cable of doing to notice the public once you've done the change we request the same kind of notice basically here's the format coming down when our getting ready to remove a bus stop so everyone can see exactly the same clarity what you're intentions that's my request make sure the public get a lot better notice i if bother to bring you the notice you know what it looks like it is hard to see and understand that's my request thank you. >> thank you, ms. elias that's our last speaker. >> looks like it ms. bloomer monarch. >> yes. next item on the consent calendar

there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests i've received no request from the board or the public do i have a motion to approve the consent calendar. >> second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> the i's have it. no notices consent calendar is approval. >> item 11 for the california environmental quality act improving the traffic as part of the lombard safety project and madam chair i'll not glow the whole thing and ed reiskin here's ms. hunter to walk us through it. >> good afternoon directors of the board and director reiskin i'm maria i will be presenting the lombard project

i'll start with framing the foundation the proposals that we're recommending today, the project project is lombard street wraps up to richards bound by vanessa and doyle with a high injury corridor the corridor for pedestrians and vehicles there using the sutter database through 2013 over 5 years over one and 50 collisions two were facility and 18 savior the collision rate is 7 times that of the collision rate per mile the vehicle collision rate is 8 times of that the city rate there are a number of transit collision and side swiepdz a third of which the collision are at transit stops from while the

bus is doing transit boarding and getting passersby from the curb we designed those engineering concerns to address the vehicle and pedestrian collisions and accommodate the existing environment a residential and commercial corridor but highway 101 tens of thousands of vehicles in and out of the city and a number of transit lines not only muni but enlivening and a number of commuter shuttles so bringing these proposals to the community we've had a number of outreach event and received great feedback and fortunate to have an engaged community those proposal has been refined with minor tweaks most notably we've added do you believe to tight that geography and modified the

original concept for the proposals and the commuter shuttle program stops along the corridor are revised to reduce parking impacts and reduce the length of the transit bubbles at the laguna stops to maximize the retention and removed a transit unbelievable at golf i wanted to note another outreach opportunity through those more organized former events by the project engineers did feed work to help connect with the businesses commercial loading zones and passerby loading zones and to make sure that the project was fully assessable so that's on overview of the outreach the next oh, i apologize. i didn't advance that the outreach

slide with our meeting we have stakeholder meeting smaller know if groups and the walking tours the next slide i want to review the treatments we're proposing along the corridor we'll have overwhelm support for the pedestrian treatments i won't spend time on those slides what you're seeing i'll note the treatment are demonstrated to reduce the collisions we're sure those are the solutions those are continental sidewalks for the pedestrians when they're no the crosswalks to insure with the vehicles are not encroaching the pedestrian space this next slide is illustrating the pedestrian intervals and day lighting overseeing sdrarlz

powder time to give you the pedestrians a head start about the vehicles start koimentd the intersection the day lighting at the intersection excuse me. again to improve the visibility so far the motors to see the pedestrians. >> the last really pedestrian focused treatment we're recommending pedestrian bubbles so using the analysis from the walk sf selected the location to receive the pedestrian bulks so similar to day lighting it reduces the turning vehicles and very visits the crossing spaces for pedestrians (baby crying). >> not our presentation. >> i hope not it gets better (laughter) so finally we are recommending

transit stops be far side transit bubbles the current configuration is the zones for most of the stops and this creates an unpredictable condition result the vehicle collisions not only between the vehicle and vehicle but muni and vehicle is it also creates a round hook the drives turn around buses through two crosswalks transit bulbs point of privilege they again eliminate that unpredictable condition with the zones between vehicles and muni drivers their having to anticipate what each other a lot do and specific far side bulbs eliminate that right turn hook

so this predictable environmentalist is better for everyone and anticipating this human error we've seen on lombard street and trying to design the streets to eliminate that with that said, we're recommending are designed for driveways has one of the greatest concerns for the community so guidelines identify the bulbs as the best guidelines in san francisco and the guidelines is states that that will be ideal to avoid driveways whenever possible in a perfect world adhere to those but their context corridors an established urban corridor the curves were cut with the number on lombard

the current configuration with the near side zones is not working not safe the recommendations of the far side bulbs are not only the driveways but a bunch of factors the table calls the number of benefits but also the concerns identified by the community west portal - bulbs people will not park in their curve cuts when the passengers are nine out of ten you'll notice that a few of those have pluses and minuses signs there is a concern but staff feels that the final proposal really does accommodate those to the best stent store the netted parking lots the staff talks about the bulbs requires the at least amount of parking and reviewed the near

side zones and upgrading those and far and near side bulbs we're recommending and again, while there are localized concerns we believe that far side bulbs create the predictability excuse me. predictable environmentalist to have safety for all road users and maximize the parking situation. >> and in summary of the engineering treatments discussed that had been condemned on the corridor intersections will receive daylighting and advances limit lines and assessable pedestrian signals at selective locations with the transit bulbs. >> the last few slides about the environmental review and schedule so the planning

department was the led agency for the california california environmental quality act and the environmental review so amongst the traffic and noise impacts and cumulative impacts it was recommended the recommended proposals are beyond the scope of the transportation effectiveness environmental impact report and no significant compacts were modified of identified i want to note we know the grant the active transportation program is going to be state money not federal in which case we will not need to do the california environmental quality act review process so the environmental review is complete with ceqa and finally the schedule action today, we will be able to install the near term treatment this summary

summer the more pedestrian the paint and signal work we would finish the designs with caltrans and the process by the spring of 2017 start construction that summer and then caltrans will start their repaving in the summer of 2018 we'll wrap up construction so with that, is there any questions. >> thank you, ms. hunter director any clarifying questions before. no, i think we'll take public comment >> madam chair the first 3 speakers are (calling names). >> thank you. >> you suspect we have people they're first time joining us at the mta you have a limit of 2

mimics if you look at down the first soft chime thirty technologies e seconds and the louder i'm firmly ask you to wrap up your remarks. >> ma'am. >> i'm actually here representing dr. roger he is a veterinarian and owner the marina pet hospital on lombard street he's been there since 1990 the hospital was founded by doctor carol the marina pet hospital is one of the oldest small businesses in san francisco providing the same services for the neighborhood the same location however, there are somewhere between one and 50 to 2 had had

small businesses along with a hundred thousand cars over 10 thousand local residents service providers, employees, and tourists all doing business and ash seeking services on loovmd every single day but as of today, the sfmta has not done one study to evaluate the impact of their decisions that on the lombard corridor the small businesses in the let alone the impact of the people that shop or seek services from those businesses they have not yielded notified any small business of the changes they're proposing and i did not believe they intend to do so that's all he had to say. >> >> thank you. next

speaker, please. >> marseille alexander and (calling names) hello, again directors allison park marseille alexander the president of the board and walk sf on behalf of the walk sf i'm here to express our support for the lombard safety project as you may know lombard is a pedestrian high injury cords thankfully that project contains many pedestrian safety features last week leading the pedestrian intervals that gives me the pedestrians a a hundred start that increases the pedestrian visible and decrease the crossing distances and this is higher pedestrian visible and the daylighting we thank staff for pushing the features the project and moving forward we would like to see more labor

projects including fwlrg the vehicle volume and speed on the corridor question ask i support that and all it's safety features. >> thank you, ms. alexander. >> next speaker. >> excuse me. >> it is german i'm matt i own 1735 lombard student we are discussing the issues with the moving the bus stops and in my situation we're talking about going from the september 11th west to the southeast side of the intersection of lombard and laguna i have several neighbors with businesses and parking building in stretch the bus stop

move and the bulb out particularly with issues of access for the tenants owners, clients of the businesses and service providers will be affected by the changes the status of that stretch of sidewalk 200 plus feet we've gone to the sfmta meetings i want to mention they didn't approach us until that was already in place and not before that i wish that they would listen to the community more we have been with them on the walk through tours semiwe have talked with them they acknowledge there is taking our concerns into their concerns i don't see anything that convinces we otherwise they plan to go ahead with what they're doing the bus stop is next to carl we will banker on

the does the lombard and they should keep it there thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> (calling names). >> overwhelm to speak today about the americans with disabilities act and how moving that bus stop from the southwest to the southeast corner of lombard and laguna will seriously inhabit assess for people to people's homes and people's businesses i have health issues i have disabilities my service providers need to park in front of my house to provide services to me if i'm a micro could say up up and down the corridor than so be is it i am a pedestrian but i can die in my house if those services are not provided to me

that's it thank you. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> mr. norton. >> your time is running, sir. >> okay what i had for you is okay. it's up okay - >> the whole question of being safety first is really an encompassing questions at the corner of lombard and - no driveways for 200 and 10 feats on the northeast corner there is plenty of room there for daylighting and there's no driveways i want to fulfills that to you on the corner of the

northwest 2112 and 14 two driveways the middle of the proposed bus stops themselves there's one and 48 feet with two driveways there so if you put a car in that driveway that car will block the entire sidewalks and block the transit bulbs and extend into the lane of traffic an on and on coming car or truck must swerve to get out of the way of the parking lot as i'm trying to get into my driveway there is a nice looking man that is the lane of traffic in summary a minimum of 11 state and federal and local agencies do not put stops in front of the driveways it is

dangerous and views are obstructed the transit bulbs will block that i'll skip and say there is one final question you tell me how could this possibly. >> thank you, thank you mr. norton. >> next speaker >> good afternoon i want to talk about pedestrian safety on fillmore street from a slightly different prospective i will also mention we've brought you petitions signed by 6 hundred and 50 strrmdz on lombard signed the businesses by an owner or an employee a customer or someone that lives on the street they're not here obviously by the we represent them met 4 times with the san

francisco municipal transportation agency to bring them study that shows you putting the bus stops in front of the driveways is difficult and this last message this was the e-mail based on the package of improvements white blood cell the benefits for the bulbs to help the traffic flow and efficiency justifies the trade off the word safety is not the sentence or e-mail the two trade offs are pedestrian safety that is the 11 studies show that people can get hit awhile back up of a driveway and pedestrians shouldn't be waiting in front of of a driveway we support there are great features i don't want to name but we don't support of placement of the bus stops that are 26 buses that will be stopping at multiple times

evidences here morrey about the book thing i can't believe with the corners being as dangers as you say they are you'll low left turns are right turns it is one of the san francisco's 12 environmental impact reports where it can't be mitigated with the pedestrian improvements that will fetish traffic negatively say no left turns and no right turns. >> thank you (calling names). >> my name is kathy o can he have the lombard street calls for the removal or reform of 46 parking spaces that is 42 percent of the current available parking and terra that comes from the berkley study news she's the owner of terrace and

berkley that says the store sales after the parking spaces in front of her store was lower than the previous year and the month of january the plan calls for moving bus stops in front of the small businesses causing undue negative impact and from berkley terry terrace moving the bus stop may have made the traffic situation less effective because customers of stores like terra make quick purposes and delivery trucks were forced to doufshg along the bus zone the video that was posted online you can see one such scenario in which a bus leaving the alcatraz bus stops pulls into on and on bus stops to get around 11ly parked

cars on the northeast street where are the studied of lombard plan on small businesses they don't exist also the bronx times from new york in february the merchant in bronx joined the community board to call on the state city for the sanctuary for the newly installed bus stops the merchants are concerned the lost parking spaces will impact the businesses there was more trash around the bulbs and mohammed owner the w convention store in front of of one of the new bulbs said that was liv. >> thank you, thank you. >> (calling names) parking space marina merchant.

>> we have studied support most of pedestrian safety the project that was on lombard they have to be considered together they're less than 200 feet apart we are opposing the projects for the same reason the projects we a don't follow the transit policy not address the quality of life and viability of the neighborhood and san francisco by removing the stops in front of large buildings in front of small retail believes is denied their civil rights the equal rights for the act all people with disabilities must be addressed the project did not follicle building code because it doesn't address all the forms of disabilities those projects don't follow the fair housing

act and the housing act with the safe assess for line up on the screen side of the room and quality of life and including medical assess those projects will cause loss of jobs by denying access to bmw's and loss of parking rove the stops on scott and denied the civil rights of the elderly to be able to washer walk in a reasonable distance to buy the goods and have a quality of life they don't follow the transportation act and highway 101 and second white zones denying public assess and piecemealing events, and we - los as far back as 1995 that will exasperate the issues

here's - >> thank you copy. >> next speaker, please. >> (calling names). >> any good afternoon i just have some comments regarding these moving the bus stops essentially ideally transit stops should be 200 feet away from existed driveways and curve cuts number one extra driveways require the pedestrians pedestrians to wait in the driveways elevating the fact that pedestrians can be hit if people going in and out of the driveway and bus stops not within the proximity of the driveway and never basis a place a bubonic bus stop that forces pedestrians to wait in front of the driveway those are all

things that are not considered with this project at that point locate the stops and pedestrians don't light and some major issues i had my building there on lombard since 1977 and you know basically what they're doing is wanting to take away my derivative essentially by putting in this bus stop and not having a curve cut so i strongly am opposed to this project. >> next speaker, please. >> (calling names). >> put it down sfgov will you turn it on. >> it's up to sfgov. >> okay. >> after my first meeting with

kevin chu. >> are you the gentleman. >> yes. in we were september of last year i've challenged them to give us proof of adding a bus stop to lombard street they've not proved that outweighs the negative impact on the traffic situation they've not done studies and they've never come to us for our advise as to how to effect our business on illustrated on the map 3 turn from van ness to lombard as a major state highway unfortunately, one lane that makes a left turn on van ness from lombard and this is a major artery for commuters and golden gate tour buses and downtown to the fisherman's wharf the major

attraction i like to think that the engineers were wise enough to avoid adding unnecessary buses to the burden of the left turn they did if you look at here on the chestnut streets the thirty bus line the busiest a bus stop on every corner the engineers showed wisdom so have bus stops on vaping for the sufficient service also away from the main street the van ness and lombard the engineers for this current project team adding the stops on laguna and golf will extend the 28 bus line to be more efficient that concept is not necessary adding the stop to laguna does not address convenience to the street fillmore was a previous stop and 3 blocks away how does

that add to the bus stops. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> (calling names). >> good afternoon directors i was born and raised in the city and i've been here quite sometime city of san francisco is really great for the independent small businesses and tourism the major source of the city as well we have not yielded seen studies from the mta regarding the virtual nor any impact studies yes, we're in favor the pedestrian safety and not just lombard street but not mean we take away the white zones and putting bus stops in front of businesses and sdroifrz they've been running ordinary person chestnut street and don't have

to be reroute with lombard a stat highway you know accidents happen and drivers pedestrians not looking but still yes, we need the safety you know those bulb outs they say sometimes you can't see them that was raining heavy one night you couldn't see the bulb outs so please, be save in that matter before the voted today it needs to be taken cerebroc and keep the buses running over chest nut streets before you want to do everyone needs to be notified and due diligence about they start any projects and the mta didn't did that they slammed it on the small businesses or

residents has any project on their own property and the neighbors have to be notified to get their permits there should be no exceptions with the mta they didn't get the permits no anything from any - >> thank you. (calling names) >> good afternoon the project conduits includes taking away 47 practices and it includes taking away white zones from small businesses and putting a bus stop in private driveways and difficult to find parking on lombard street with 42 percent of parking spaces it will be 42 percent more difficult to find parking even the residential areas that are streets on boo both sides of the

lombard and residents will experience more difficulty finding parking and with the scarcity it is a particular business on the corner of golf and lombard is necessary we have guests parking to help the elderly and checking on passengers and at a minded no other parking space available taxis will drop off passengers and deliver food e the hotel has delivery of weekly maybe even monthly and in which the company trucks temporarily park to deliver their supplies and having the white zone taking away the trucks will not have a place to park or park on the streets causing more traffic and as those of us who run the small businesses know and live on

lombard know that summertime is peak time for tourists season and people from all over the world shop in our shops and dine at the restaurant and to be short it will be an convenience for residents and businesses. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir next item, please. >> (calling names). >> hello jody harris i live the marina. >> i'm sorry michelle is next and diana scott thank you. >> the gentleman is not here howard, diana peter straus. >> good afternoon howard speaking for it is true i first want to thank mary for

presenting you with a very good plan i want to speak to one little part of this the crossing of lombard includes put the white guy on to start the walk before traffic i'll suggest you did same thing i tried to do that with transit planners crossing the side streets in this case you delay the pedestrian from going so people can make the right turns and get out of away of the bus i don't want to kill cars we have to move ism or them out of the way and one things that mary forgot one of the advantage you can use your transit signals and now be able to use them that will add for liability and maybe golden

gate put the same commit and use it those signals what could can be smarts you may have to wait but certainly adds quality i look forward to see how you build those parking idles with the boarding when i do it on 19th avenue i'll have to solve the problems on judy you don't have to have a length broadly island and i think it through this one will be at the rear doors and this one is where interest as driveway none has to wait and stand in front of a driveway to get run over but have a raised boarding idles we have to take those steps for too long oh, where should we put a bus stop we'll put it - >> thank you very much. >> thank you, sir

(calling names). >> okay i'm go to go talk to some of the advantages of the near side bus stops the should ideally be used where driveways or alleys make far stop locations problematic problematic that is urban design guidelines national association of transportation officials and also federal transit administration talks about near side stops result in the width of the intersection being available for the drivers to pull away from the curve and allows passengers to board in while the bus is stopped at a red light additionally several different transportation authority's talk about providing the driver with the time the opportunity to look for ongoing traffic with other

buses with potential passengers that is important to me when i'm making a connection additionally near sided locations allows the transit users to load the trishgsz minimized the zaps to connecting services some of the far side disadvantageous including having to run across the street to catch a bus they may result in sgshgsz being blocked by stopping buses they can cause a bus stop to far side after stopping for a red light when interferes with both bus operations and other traffic they may increase the number of rear end accidents since drivers

do expect them to stop and stop the intersections when the bus is stopped in travel lanes and skipping some second a second bus entering - >> thank you (calling names). >> good afternoon period of time straus on the bed-and-breakfast san francisco board riefrdz i urge your support of this this is an important corridor for the 28 and golden gate transit that is an important corridor bus stops at drivers are upcoming 12ki6sh8 but we're in a built up city and frequently need to weigh the balances and come up with the least the at least bad you know and the best solution golden gate this is frequently imperfect but this is primarily

about first and foremost about the transit and bus riders not when torment and about the improvement of pedestrian safety open lombard there is a critical concern i want to sort of follow-up on something that ms. lucas said about taraval we're upset been the compromises in some cases the excessive compromises being made to projects before it they reach our board and i would urge you to not compromise any of the important features of this proposal i urge it's approval thank you. >> thank you, mr. straus next item, please. >> (calling names) good afternoon again commissioners i'm basically going to request a continuance on item 11 and 12

while there are more stusdz done on the situation we have particular concerns with the merchants i'm going to speak about the changes that is all have on the health of the community of small businesses on lombard and chestnut that served the neighborhoods for decades the merchants don't trust the project plans that are considered we said that the neighbors and merchant met with planners and commissioner pearlman and his staff a number of times and suggested the solutions they can live with but their ideas have been ignored with the established business people they can predict how their customers will rack and concerned about the need for pickup and delivery services and the lack of care of over low income egress to

existing parking spaces and driveways they can't function in an environment we need the net for loading them i was on a mission yesterday, i actually look around on 16th street and mission there are so - at least half a more produce markets open mission around 16th street how will they get their delivery they have the red in parking zones they double park into the lane with the traffic is so they can take their produce to the market which is right there and this is the same thing you want nice restaurants the city the license plates is coming from st. clair.

>> thank you next item, please. >> thank you. >> (calling names). >> good afternoon, board directors cheryl brinkman and director ramos. >> i'm the director of small businesses and recognize that is unusual to be addressing you in public comment our commission at the last minute add to the agenda a presentation from the lombard street coalition we had our commission meeting last night so the commission directed me to have a letter to you requesting an appointment on postponement and appreciate being afford the opportunity to have a full presentation on the project as the mission to foster and promote small businesses in understanding how the project is going to address the business

needs in terms of yes, in making improvements with the parking reduction but how the parking reduction is taken place and more importantly the deliveries and the business needs for the businesses along that corridor the mission commission fully recognizes our per recognize to not to take argue requests into consideration we'll know for the future i've reached it out the tmc and for the commission to receive a standing monthly meeting or standing presentation from the department it kept apprise to the projects that are take place in the merchant corridors so i'll not standing before you at the last minute for our requests.

>> thank you. next speaker. >> he's the last person that turned in a speaker card on this matter. >> i'd like to address the transit first from the san francisco charter as it relates to the lombard project the number one item under that transit first policy is in red to assure the quality of life and economic health in san francisco the primary objective must be save and a movement of people with goods my comments on this with respect to lombard corridor project the quality of life this degrades the quality of life for most important stakeholders of the lombard corridors the recipient will have reduced

services and access to private prompt and business owner will have reduced customer revenue and business customers will have reduced assess to the parking space and increased parking did the and results the loss of jobs, pedestrians in some cases will be forces to see the situations you've seen earlier from the photos and private vehicular traffic will be involved in increased transit time and extended rush hours as the buses on the comment of economic health this proposal is anti small business results will be economically negative to the many small businesses located adjacent to the larry juicy edmond corridor that overwhelm conclusion of a vast majority of the small business owners and as has to do with with the

sofa efficient movement of the goes and - we all could have read that i'll go to my collection and observation this project is not retina ready for prime time not vetted. >> thank you. next speaker. (calling names) who will be the last person to speak. >> herbert wiener one thing that really concerns me the concerns of the neighborhood and the businesses that have been ignored by this project and another concern i have is people shop on union street to the cal hallow area sometimes they have to walk to lombard street your focusing the whole neighborhood and have you consulted with the police about this you know, do you consultant with

the police department at all? and it undermines the fact it mta members should have taken over parking and traffic into the police department they should be more realistic people are punished for living on lombard street and doing business on lombard street people should in the be punished for living there and conducting business i'm wondering where is the chamber of commerce on that do they support mta cart blank or take them to task they should do it in this case >> thank you, mr. wiener. >> mr. harris welcome back. >> born and raised in san francisco i truly love this city this report is very interesting you have moving bus stops and pedestrian safety and bulb outs and handicap issues i want to

point out i walk on chestnut and drive chest unnecessary nut at any one time i see through double parkers on the three or four block stretch if something that can be done to enforce the laws that will address all the issues the report thank you. >> thank you very much mr. harris any more speakers. >> kathy harris. >> thank you good afternoon, commissioners i'm kathy i think that the lombard transit bicycle should be set back to the drawing board and not adopted the staff materials state that the materials that the transit bulbs reduce the speeds by 14 percent every street is not the same you should study the

projection of this as part of 101 that is heavily traveled and study the degree of increase the particular from vehicle slowing down the effective areas it it will established cars traveling slower emit the black suit that collects on windowsills i've seen this in the abag they've recognize the parcels will result as part of city slow down i've not heard an acknowledgement of the reduction in air quality the city or the lombard areas that is caused by the policies the staff report and if 80 staff is not provided the information you don't have adequate information upon which to base a decision i've driven the city all my life i'm a native lucky to be a native and

never done the bus the hook maneuver and not aware of the significant threat but the most dangerous thing has been bicycles dwlog stop signs i myself had a situation i was turning respect the blinker on and bicyclist come from the south of the block down the hill at a rapid amount of speedy luckily saw him, i was carefully looking in the mirror i stopped or - >> thank you. i wish all the motorists were as safe as you seeing none, public comment is closed directors i'm sure we have questions for ms. hunter if you would to come up to the podium your discussion i was at the vision zero conference if new

york city it give me a fresh commitment to the work and made we realize we have a moralism pester and a moral responsible to doing everything we can to prevent pedestrian injuries and deaths as we know from the doj report that's been a bad year in san francisco we have a lot of over repetitive policies we've put if place through a lot of meetings and spent hours going through the policy goals shaping policies to achieve the safety goals i recognize there is going to be a occasional inconveniences when we make changes to reach the greater goals the first thing i'd like to ask ms. hunter i'll go ahead and start the question of the relocation of curve space that comes up when we talk about a project and we manage curve

space have we reached out to the merchant and managing the loading zones the white zones and parking meters to make sure we are maximize missing the ability to the transit idle. >> the legislation you'll notice we're rome a number of zones and the project engineer reached out to the folks for the merchant if they're using them and if so where we can relocation them and that's part of progress yeah. >> could you remind us the white loading stones were put in at the request of the merchant; correct? >> i believe most of them with commercial and yellow loading curves. >> i am i'm going to turn it over to directors question. >> i want to make a few points i guess mr. hunter one of the points i'll ask is from my

understanding even the economical yellow zones and the white zones can be installed replacing meter spacious am i correct? >> yes, and is there an approach to talk to some of the merchant about taking away some of their zoning district to put in the white. >> the parking lot is part of progress so we've identified excuse me. some of the general meter spaces are remembered with the commercial loading spaces the 46 spaces i want to be clear i believe i heard tom mention 42 percent of parking that is alarming we're retaining offer 95 percent of parking on the corridor and cross streets just to be clear the 46 of over one thousand. >> 46 over one thousand i think for me some of the

things i want to make sure we're communicated when staff goes out to talk to the community and what have you do you folks have they heard some the opponents heard about the racial behind making service faster and more efficient so that is reduced the cost of operations reduces traffic time and gets people out of cars, freeze up parking spaces so people can actually have a competitive mod to get into the as opposed to people don't feel they can take the bus do you have a portfolio i don't hear anyone talk about an alternative that like fine the way it is and not clearly not we have more demand and accommodate

things differently than 1910 or however long those businesses are around do you guys have a portfolio or go over this. >> transaction the foundation is pedestrian safety and we have highlighted the diversities we've gains and i believe about 3 minutes we can stay with the transit bulbs for the far side transit bulbs and want to take advantage the priorities the concerns i have to stop far side and avoid the issues to have the efficiency grains we've seen the auto ownerships drop the transit ryder up we're optimistic that people will be encouraged to

take transit more reliable and safer to get to the transit stops we have again made the principle about safety but transit efficiency has been part of communication and as the region is growing we want to see more people taking transit walking and booking. >> for me i appreciate all the work that you folks have put into that i know many of you made a career of studying this this is not something you talk about at the inn the cafe while you're doing some other job this is what you invested your careers and life and all your time frankly coming up with the best possible proposals and for me, i would love to heard alternatives for how to better accommodate this growth and the growing traffic we're seeing i feel like for me if we don't do a better job of accommodating

roads and making transit faster and more reliable and efficient the alternatives that i think with keeping things the same is to make traffic slower to make that more expensive and to effectively encourage people to have a choice to get out of their cars and make everything slower and including other car drivers when people don't- when transit didn't work fast enough for folks to get to where they want to go thai drive and put pollution and more competition into the air and traffic is sloefr when people are in a hurry they rush and that's what results in pedestrian fatalities or collisions we've been seeing

so from my perspective this is the best proposal we have going forward it is not detrimental and destructive but a good balance i'd like to seen dedicated lanes the future revisit that and protected bike lanes get people off the sidewalks we hear about a lot more we could have done i like where we are and certainly hope that people understand that the role of the sfmta is to achieve a balance and accommodate the growth the city is experiencing and staying keeping things the same is not an option that will get worse and worse and commissioner avalos is talking about getting more money for the cost of operations that is money not from thin air we'll have to fight over from the general fund and it could be going to other important things so i appreciate

staffs work on this i thank everyone for putting their thoughts and their consideration into this i'm going to be supportive of proposal moving forward. >> thank you director heinecke. >> thank you you said in our presentation that parking spots were being move forward 46 being eliminated or. >> correct it is a net loss of 46 spaces so where we have the near side transit zones that curb space will be made into parking spaces so whereas where we relocation we've take the parking spaces is not necessary loss of 46 but the. >> ross are on the same blocks actually; right? >> yes. >> so i think director ramos submitted the balance we have to

strike and the projects my southern is business community here and you never know with those things whether there was sufficient roach and people are not opposed so they're asking for more cooperation or their was not sufficient notification and involvement in the business community maybe i'll ask the question you've heard the valued business people the corridors saying one gentleman very conserving said this not ready for prime time for the corridor and what measures you've taken to address them that would be helpful to us. >> sure so we had the outreach events for we've developed that stakeholder go up and invite them to participate the walk tourists some of the about his

business owners attend and kevin defined this in september through the the company to discuss the prospective of the businesses again one of the concerns we've heard from the business is parking lots and the current recommendation don't maximize retention to the fullest stent to keep 9 near side transit zone we'll avoid the driveways, of course, by effective take twice as much parking like the curb space to have full transit zones and even though location will take the curve space and trying to balance those regina we're happy to meet with the small businesses group and explain how the parking changes as well as the loading zone we've

identified where the loading zones will be located through the businesses i've requested i need this like to keep it where can you put it that's - >> i guess what i'll say i mean, i don't take lightly a request from other agency for them to do more work i suspect you've heard that many our recommendations we go forward will you please let me know but if so the recommendation we should at least tell the people that is not the end we can make accommodations you come to us and certainly work with the agency to make sure that you know again i am not we've said that maximums i hear that people think that is it that's the way it is going to be but that's not it we can modify as we go

forward i want our business community to come to us i think maybe i'll ask for staffs commitment to work with the community and agency to see if from if there are other things to address the comments. >> we'll be had that to the good to the small business commission and present the project but there's a probably two main categories of concerns the public comment one of them the location of the bus stops in front of driveways and one parking loss those two are as described intentively we building we can maximize the safety benefits and maximize the other benefits but it places the zones in front of driveways and

two or three of the directions along the stretch find lombard. >> those are not buses sitting there. >> that's correct. >> so we'll absolutely continue to work as we have in other projects with individual businesses who may have floating issues we've been able to accommodate we've done the accommodations the parking and traffic moving around the white limousines ebt to work with the businesses along the corridor or any other to address side needs. >> thank you director heinecke for bringing that up that is a good model going forward and not good for us to go great the small business commission to present feel to them. >> director borden. >> any concern about the driveway situations and currently there their bus stops

that block the drivers are we creating more situations. >> we've been yeah. most of the near side zones avoid the driveways that is a new condition but gay because the exit condition is not work well the near side balance again, we're weighing the trade offs and understanding the local concerns versus the weight of all the pedestrians, all the traffic traveling on lombard and the buses so making sure we're not case by case all the safety for parking i mean it seems to me we have for parking spaces this is great but to the extent it is pedestrian safety that is concerning to me and the trade offs. >> right as explained the transit shelters are you know not in driveways certainly we're not encouraging

people to stand in driveways people walk through the driveways their through the crosswalks but people are going introduce 9 crosswalks the shelter locations will be along the corridor right now people stand next to driveways all the time so and we are trying to eliminate this existing treaty of pedestrian collisions and vehicle collisions with a more predictable far side location. >> do we have experience in other corridors there are bus stops along the parking spaces and have issues the complex areas. >> the parking spaces or drivers i mean driveways. >> yeah. actually a number on visa ders on chestnut and divisadero we haven't had any fatalities there. >> i should adds on the 28 at

least where i get on and off the 28 they're pulling up in front of the gas stations there are driveways along 19th avenue and the bus stops you you know gas stations have cars in and out of them all the time that is their mode of operation and we regularly pull up in front of the driveway and block the derivative the bus does and the pedestrians handle that we don't stand in the way of a driveway when cars are in and out. >> yeah. i guess we have people hit every single day we're not trying to hit people but making sure we're not creating a safety conflict and obviously we've heard that people care about the parking sounds like more than the driveway issue if this the alternative we'll go with i'll say we monitored in general

those conflicts that does concern me having the stops especially like lombard so much traffic people turn quickly to get in and out of the traffic that streets 101 is different than divisadero and don't have all the flexibility but so completely so, i mean all of those things we should be careful and think about how we do the signage in those areas maybe reminders in those areas about cars and things like that you know looking out for the conflicts and concerns in terms of i know we'll have other controlled with merchant being successful and interesting we have the lottery career overflow room people want to

lock their car and people come and pick up your car and bring it to you now ways to get around by transit my restaurants are booming and not concerned about that aspect but you know chestnut street is a commercial corridor i lived in that neighborhood for of years as well a block from lombard anyway, i'm supportive like i said, we should continue the dialogue to make sure they said and people understand what is going on to make sure we've taken care of of the loading issues on admissibility i've seen double parked cars loading and unloading an lombard street but that will be an issue. >> thank you director borden

you bring up the interesting point things what if anything we have bus stopped flofrnt gas stations we've seen the gas stations go away at a shocking rate who is to say that used rue right now that didn't have a driveway might not but it sounds like everyone got their concerns addresses motion to approve do i have a second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the i's have it. that item passes i want to thank the public for coming out, i know this is a big change for your streets i want to recommit to the fact that the staff will continue to work with the businesses to accommodate the curve side spaces as much as we condition it is a reoccurring issues. >> thank you to the private citizens i know that is a bit of a change for you and hopefully,

will workout well and you'll not suffer ill effects i appreciated you're taking the time to come out thank you. >> in essence item. >> item 12 amending the transportation cod for the transit only from chestnut to one and 50 street the northbound direction and north bound to chestnut in a southbound directs for approving the traffic modifications along the thirty and stockton transit corridor. >> thank you like we have mr. kennedy to present this one. >> game-changer directors my name is shaun kennedy moving forward program manager at the sfmta here today to talk about chestnut street role quickly as a muni forward for the promotions we're working on the george cords corridor to achieve

the safety and on 7, 8, 9 performances so here's a map of where we are with those corridors this is the muni forward color coded by the implementation process i'll note the red lines are the corridors that are in construction and one i want to point out is mission street it was adopted protected in december and we're working on the implementation monthly paint it is going to be a transitions but paint that work is already ongoing and have that finished by the middle of april and report back to you the blue lines are corridors that have already been late by the board and the green are enactive we're cumber talking

about with the community members and the dash lines no outreach process i want to say one anything or thing both the map the corridors that have red and blue those been legislated at the board level include over 60 permit bulbs and pedestrian bulbs and 12 miles of transit only lanes and thirty miles of pedestrian safety in transit improvement so very exciting those projects start to move forward and get constructed so chestnut street why chestnut street included in muni forward the stockton thirty state and local has over 20 thousand riders a day it goes congest nut van ness columbus and down stockton street the entire length of the thirty stockton

will be having proposals brought forward and chestnut is the first segment coming forward and the segment is one $.5.12 city blocks with 4 steepest and 11 transit stops and two traffic signals along that stretch and consecutively is take 10 to 11 anybody's for stockton many of the existing conditions are things you've seen the corridors we've talked about this is the second densest city the united states so the most corridors this is to not much different the corridor stopping crowded buses especially during the peak periods in the thirty x line over express service, bus

moving in and out of traffic and essential at every block buses are moving to the curve and trying to get back the flow of 2r56 to make its way down the street and then delays due to turning vehicles really this is really an interesting corridor on one half from fillmore west it is objective commercial a lot of pedestrian activity a lot things going on along that corridor and then on the eastern portion residential there is a school and some a lot of parkland and really residential in feel and lee because of that we really- we're focused on trying to help the bus get through the

corridor with crowded pedestrian activity one of the problems see say is or is people are waiting for a clear path it to make a left or right and a lot of turning vehicles waiting for the three pedestrians to wait it backs up traffic leading up chestnut the original proposal was fairly aggressive and included american people a.m. peak transit from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. the southern part of corridor and increasing the stops average 5 hundred feet between stops along congest nut our stop standards are 8 hundred to 1300 feet between stops we are proposing to increase the stops but the bold intersection for the reduction of traffic from the curve makes it safer for the people riding and pocket of intersections to allow cars

to move out of the way so buses and cars can move and location with the traffic - on van ness itself we were proposing are proposing to continue the van ness brt line so van ness brt is running and going to be stopping at lombard there is 3 blocks left on van ness the first block continue lombard and chest newly nut we're proposing other buses move over to the side running lane and the last two blocks from the north point has a transit only lane that supports the 49 and 47 and, of course, the hocking no parking removal but the delay is next to the parking lane and a if you bulbs a number of outreach for the

proposals held our own open houses as well as a number of community oriented and developed meetings including the presentations to the community and the citizens were called total with several meetings to hear about the proposals and listen to what we're coming up with i have another publicly meeting the middle of december a thousand postcards the corridor and over 6 hundred people take the survey asking for feedback along the proposal to get input and what did we hear a couple of message lourtd one the community someone said the transit riders if so a need for the a.m. peak transit only lane they also were strong option to the traffic signals along the corridor

what they supported was at spaez and the thirty x note a line that was severely over crowded taking that feedback and working with the specifies office we've revised the proposals parking neutral the final parking proposal neutral the average stop is the proposal bafrg if a 5 hundred space now to about 9 to nine hundred and 50 to the spacing proposed bulbs that are raining the transit stops we're proposing to add bulbs and our turn pockets including steiner and of him and scott those all three of those have 25 percent of traffic entering the

intersection making a turn that's why we selected those for turn pockets on van ness roughly the same proposal that we started with transit only lanes on van ness goes to two intersections one at the far side of bay the northbound direction and the second one on polk between north point and polk on the north side and we're proposing to make that into a transit boarding island the benefits 20 percent travel time savings with those proposals and, of course, the time savings is not as important as the reliability we think that will add to the service to the whole line not only 0 congest nut and also 60 foot that you see on april if the next service increase soliciting the issues

and then, of course, there's pedestrian safety through the transit bulbs and reducing that distance and slowing traffic with that, i'll be glad to take questions drshgsz any clarifying questions before we go to public comment. >> i think those are clarifying if i may what is - so the chestnut portion of the line what is the estimated increase in speed of the stop spreading. >> so increase for the thirty. >> going on. >> it is faster it stops less what is the estimated factor. >> we're going like i said an average every 10 to 1120 percent we'll reduce that travel time by

so we'll do more like 7 and a half to 10 minutes from about 6.9 miles per hour to about 8 and a half. >> if i caught that a 2 minute delta that's on the chestnut portion. >> the second question van ness brt is the thirty not running the center. >> no right the brt is ended at lombard. >> the thirty still will be running up van ness next to the center lane is that the idea. >> so the thirty - comes in at chestnut it stays an 0 thirty and hits van ness are the brt ends that ends at lombard chestnut is a block love benioff

that and left to two blocks netting out to stockton. >> very helpful clarifying indeed. >> thank you director heinecke thank you. we'll go to public comment. >> yes. (calling names). >> eliminating bus stops i don't see how possibly it can save time it didn't make an lemon be sense when transit riders have to walk further and cross more streets to get the bus so it doesn't increase safety and it certainly doesn't decrease the time from where you are going and taking away the lane from lombard to now bay for the brt i gather from that measure is only

going to make traffic even worse and slowing the traffic causes more emissions from cars and nobody seems to think about that as a safety issue and it is people that are breathing problems and seniors for children but none addresses that and that is a safety issue also by pedestrian walk out sweet spots street in addition to the safety transit time pedestrians - transit riders will have to wait longer at the bus stops to wait for the unloading and loading of more passengers that will have to board a bus because the bus stops are eliminated so it didn't save any time at all and just increases the traffic and increases everything we have to put up with those days in san

francisco the over development and the traffic that you all are causing. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i just wanted to suggest that efficiency has been mentioned many times and seems other cross purposes are rider convenient so the term of efficiency is a red flag and experiences with brt including santa fe and cleveland where the public was really enthusiasm about roll out initially have been followed by much less success than claimed budget & finance more than two buses

staking up with longer than integrals than gone buses they have and transit takes longer it initially claims and riders are asking why couldn't we run for express buses i think it was stayed that things have to change i appreciate that and i understand there is a lot of money riding on this this is really what drives the progress before federal, state, and local but simpler ways of accommodating more traffic or decreasing traffic and getting more ridership brt may not be one that hadn't demonstrated that yet and parallel arteries are one block there is congestion problem there. >> this may not be a great solution for san francisco

i don't you'll not here this is it is way far link but i think you should pay attention and also commercial businesses that have suffered in other cities have been paid on the order of $50,000 - >> thank you, ms. thank you. next speaker, please. >> (calling names) and the then followed by patricia. >> good afternoon again mar, i. going to finish with regards to other commercial easier that have been impacted heavily by those situations i'm actually going to make a suggestion i experienced on mission street added 16th street is those red tow away zones none will park if people double parking and instead of having the double

parking situation maybe what we should do is go back to 10 minute load zones and green zones with or without passport so people will not be afraid to go to the curve if they're going to be there anyway veto to deliver a long time the delivery problems pickup and delivery particularly on mission i've got photographs there were buses behind buses no cars really in the way it is a bus waiting to pull over or a bus waiting to load or unload nothing but buses right away right now with this particular intersections into distributors on mission street the cars are not the problem there is a lot of buses getting in each other's ways i'll go out on a limb an area under dispute

at 16th street and mission right now that makes a good parking garage lubbing for the busses to actually get in thereof the streets off that corner and load and you think load and especially parking meters be a parking garage could be there there's instead of the luxury condos that some people want to put to that's my suggestion for the parking garage. >> next speaker, please. >> (calling names). >> he peter straus our members have before supportive as you may know of the muni forward and urge to adopt it this measure we like the stop rationalization of putting 60 foot buses on the thirty with the minor manufacture along this corridor i mentioned on terryville we're

frustrated you know the at the compromises that have been made of the important measure that was deleted we are frustrated of the aggressive components of that project has been deleted probably i miss the meetings but i see all the chart on the list i i don't think this is more chart than the removal of the transit lanes in particular on congest nut street that is frustrating that happens an hate street that people those days approach the street lights as hazards to pedestrian safety and you know that is just so backward that was on hatred street two unfortunately, the stop signs here on behalf of the appellant street lights were not

dleeltdz it is unfortunate the street lights were deleted and frustrated not as a proposal on scott street it is danger to cross and important that the staff develop and present better statistics on how installation of traffic lights support the pedestrian safety not a hazy hope that some of the other measures had been returned but hope you will accept and implement that proposal given that is before you thank you. >> thank you, mr. straus. (calling names) >> frankly shawn has been easier to work with on congest nut street i wanted to give him some compliments our opposition we don't a lot of this once again support

our big objection is the loss of scott stops the reason why as several of them left they couldn't stay that long we have a lot of world war ii korean vietnam's veterans in our neighborhood and stations where go walking is extremely, extremely difficult to have to walk if marina middle school to peer street is 8 to nine hundred feet he said nine hundred i'll take it for the seniors to walk that far for two buses is justice criminal because it hurt and that's at the stop the scott stop is a stop for social allergies if they get off the

busses they go to the coffee have their little meetings a 1 o'clock group and ask if they did it there's an everyday occurrence through the marina for the mail for the night and jump on the bus to go back particularly to the eastern portion and they will have to walk 4 hundred feet with a grocery bag to get to the near itself business that's criminal and it takes away the social life as well any of the people that are locked in neither homes we have to consider them thank you. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> and (calling names). >> howard true again look i wanted to first, we support this project i want to

see this happen as peter said more to be done and explain how less stops really work best for the muni shows a savings let's think about that instead of one or two people to stop for and fight its way into the traffic cars don't give the busses a fair shake 10 people get on especially now we're using both doors and the less frequently they have to fight to get back into traffic, of course, if you build bus boarding zones no fight but i'll talk about the stops for bus i'm old i live in a neighborhood where it was seven hundred feet average and the rest of the 28 buses for the

driveways 14 hundred appealing feet i'll looking forward in 2018 we'll have the 28 buses 14 hundred foot between stops when you look at that people really have to walk the seven hundred feet most of them live in a way they'll walk one way or another to say one hundred feet less big deal people canned walk probable when they were thirty they'll still be walking thanks a lot this is a nice step and we hope to make the thirty better those covets projects set the stage for this to happy good afternoon each line has to be improved we save on think average one minute on all - >> thank you, thank you.

>> herbert wiener was the last person to submit a speaker card. >> herbert wiener you you have been leaving the bus stops for 20 years and no change the speed of the buses and no guarantee that the bus speed will change with that project whereas it is clearly needs for business and what you're doing your miss funding the resources with expensive bulb outs with $300,000 a each and put that into the busses that is clearly wasteful and as pointed out you are to have a balance in public transportations and the logic behind was the trade offs unfortunately, the trade offs translate the sacrifice of the vulnerable the seniors and disabled you through

them the wheels of the bus and at least able to get here to testify on their on behalf of i think they deserve equal attendance if not more attention the bicyclist you should do that so really i don't want you know this approval to be the mta express in one area and out the other you have to give this careful thought and address the social realties and your derelict in our responsibility. >> thank you, mr. wiener public comment is closed. directors do you have any concerns or questions. >> i'll say obviously this of the discussed that was my bus stop i have to say on the 14 line and having the choice within the 14 and 14 r i've done

it i take the bus everyday and i'll wait 5 minutes to take on r over the 49 and get there faster, in fact, it get me faster when i got off the 24th and i got there the same time as the r i spend my money there (laughter) there is a truth to the a person that takes the bus evidence by roving the bus stops you speed up up the travel time i know that is truth because people are relegated to take the bus didn't mean they have more time to wait this thought that people on the bus can take their time and their time is not valuable i assume they that get that way we were never going to make the system more efficient if more

sacrificed out bus stops they're near and far sights on the block is maelgd and so this is a step we have to take that you guys did a great job with working with the community were more concerns but you got to the a place with the input from the community and balanced out needs with the transit reliability and speeds the pedestrian safety and retaining you know parking and all traffic flow i think that is a really balanced approach i'm happy to move to support that. >> thank you bordering. >> director ramos oh, first of all, congratulations mr. kennedy from the proposals on the citizens we know your easy to work with and your presentation which is good

as folks who pay attention to this and hopefully not too many of you there are other hobbies in life i have stopped the spaed of the p u t is i say that, however, and note i think we need to be sensitive to the needs of people that find is harder to walk i'm not presume people find is difficult to go in stops and request why question why they don't walk and as i said in the the course of this trial e p those that know the folks if that becomes an issue please contact us elsewhere maybe help you to design or consider paratransit but i do think the process needs to speed up and stop spreading

is a minor way to do it i'm interested in the fact that the transit lanes was rejected i'm a proponent of transit lines lanes i think that chestnut street is a different corridor for striping or red carpeting i know that bus line is different than the bused lines we're looking for red carpeting so i'm okay with that but i want to make sure that lombard the business people are addressed i wanted to keep an eye on we have significant we've discussed lombard street and hopefully van ness and maybe the geary brt will effect transit by passing this proposal today i'll support i don't think that means that there can never be a red carpet or transit lane on that

corridor we should keep that as an option if this proves not to solve the problem as the city is more populated we need to relook at this. >> thank you director heinecke director ramos. >> thank you for the meeting he just want to respond to a couple of things first of all, the comment been blood splatters where did the lady go she left brt is so successful doubling the riverside want sfmta has created funding pots how successful brt is in winning the riderships this is the corridor is determined so successful as new state funding their expressly being applied but the state recognized to get pout e people out of cars benefits us

all with the viral goals and obviously with respect to what is most important to me reducing the cost of operations as mr. straus said when you speed up the service it is million dollars over the long haul that translates both service not only on the corridors but corridors throughout the city my own dear mother over 75 years is struggling with a hip problem that prevents her from walk wishes she could walk one feet the transit service can't afford to run service to where she lives that's the big picture i'll say it over and over our resources are dried-up and won't be