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kim and we should call the record. >> commissioner breed? snechlt here. >> compos? >> absent. >> kim >> present. >> mar? snechlt absent. >> yee. >> here. >> could we approve the minutes, without objection, those are approved. >> we will take the public comment. when public comment has been completed. >> all right. let's get to item number, 3. and we are now joined by commissioner mar. who is the chair of the committee. >> item three. state and federal leg sislativep date, this is an action item.
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>> welcome. >> happy to be here today. i thought that i would give this a brief, overview of where we are at the capitol and where we are. >> could you identify yourself? >> i am sorry, yes. >> mark watts, advocate for the transportation, authority in sacramento. the legislature welcomed the new assembly speaker yesterday, when he was sworn in and he was elected in january and so he is now, fully in charge of the transition has been completed. and it was a very, very, happy ceremony. and i think that he has filled out priorities for his term. and i think that they will suit the state very well. beyond that, where we are in the legislative process for the capitol, is on a sheet of paper here that i can't seem to find.
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>> darn it. i apologize, here we go. the end of february was the last day to introduce measures and you will see that reflected in the matrix today, where we have gotten about 40 bills, that we reviewed and made recommendations on. and i will come back to that in a moment. but next major deadline for legislation would be april, 22nd. for the bills that were introduced in late february. and they have to clear the first committ committee or they are dead or they are dead for the remainder of this session. there is a spring recess in the midst of this process, on march 17th, and march 28, they will be in recess, so the hearing for these measures will be very, very, heavily attended. and very, heavy agenda. s and as they try to get through all of these by the end of
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april. in terms of note, on transportation, funding, which is a strong interest around the state right now, senator bell, has a measure in the special session and he intends to amend and we had hoped to see that on monday or tuesday at this point in time, his office says that he is refining some of the amendments, his amendments will add significant amounts of funding and finance for transit projects. even though the main balance of the bill will be focusing on the state and local, road repairs. there is an indication that the administration may elect to move on with a more stream lined proposal in about $2 billion range, that would not require a super majority vote in the legislature, we are trying to understand if that is something that they are working on. but there are indications that there are, or there is a preference to try to get a small
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amount of funding for state and local road repairs, rather than make the push for the larger amount, that is represented in senator bell's bill and the assembly member's frasier's bill. and i will be keeping you abreast of the developments as we go through the next couple of weeks. in terms of the matrix of the legislation, there are 13 specific recommendations that we are making to you. one is a changed position, and then the other 12 are new bills for your consideration. and in addition, there is like 32, or 33 other measures that we have recommended watch for one reason or another, and they have may have applied to a policy area, where there is not much flesh on the bill at this point in time and many cases there are spot bills on topics that may become of interest. and so rather than trying to find them again, when they get amended and we put them on the watch and that allows us to
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monitor that flux more evenly. and so if you would like, i can cover the 13 measures, starting with the first one, which is ab 1550 on page six. this is a position we had recommend that opposed in the past. and we are recommending watch. and it deals with disadvantaged communities in the cap and trade area. it did not change for the proportions of the projects or the funding that is required to be spent in the disadvantaged communities and as you may realize, or you may recall from the first go around of the money and the disadvantaged communities in the region did not fare well because of the way that is designed, and this bill, takes another step and leads the current, 25 percent requirement in place, but as the requirement and 25 percent of the funding must be for projects that benefit, low income households.
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and so, what we have or why we are recommending moving to a wasatch front rather than oppose. we would like to continue working on the definition of disadvantaged community more in the background and working with there is a green gas reduction, and working to see if we can improve the disadvantaged definition. and we are asking for your changed to a watch position. >> i just wanted to thank you so much for being sensitive to the low income communities. and in some ways whether they are in the san francisco bay region or east la, so that we are taking in some ways a regional and even a state wide approach to equity but policies, but thank you. >> and we have seen a number of these types of measures over the last couple of years, and we are recommending oppose on ab 1768, and on page 10 of the matrix, and essentially, it directs,
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the, remainder of the high speed, rail bonds to be used to pay off the, outstanding high speed, rail bonds, effectively, turn nighting the stream for the project and so as a consequence, we are recommending oppose. and in the several more and i will cover them briefly, because i don't think that there is going to be concern about the recommendation and we are recommending oppose on 1866 on page, 12. and this would redirect, the remainder of the high speed, rail bonds to the state water project funding and again, that is a major change in the high speed rail. and we think that the policy of this before you is for the high speed rail program. and the next measure, ab1886, we are recommending a support and i have to tell you that i have to draw a diagram, three or four
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times before i fully understood this one. and essentially, there is an exemption provided within the e seqa, where 25 percent of the projects are no further than a half mile. this takes it to 50 percent, so no more than 50 percent of the land mass, is an expansion of the sequa expansion for these types of project and we are recommending a support position. ab 1964, on page, 14 is another, and a long series of bills, over the last couple of years, this one is little bit different than the ones that we have seen before. this simply extends the white sticker, authorization, to access hov lanes, and the white stickers are pure, battery and electrics and the natural gas vehicles as distinguished from the greenstickers, when are the hybrids. and so this, applies only to the
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white sticker vehicles, but they are growing in sales, and the population throughout the state, is growing. and the concern is, that allowing, the continued and expanding access of the hov lane and so we recommend an opposed position. >> ab2034, on page 15, recommending the support position to you. and more than a decade ago, the federal government, authorized the delegation, to state transportation departments. to over see nefa, of the reviews, within their state. and that was enacted and it has been continued once and this simply continueses that authorization at the state level to allow cal transin circumstances to administer and over see both nepa and sequa
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documents but i will not comment on the effectiveness, but it is a continuation of an existing policy. and what will bring the high speed rail program to an end. it says that no more bonds could be sold. >> and it will have to go back to the voters and so there is a double layer of protection against this becoming effective. because i don't see this measure moving forward but that one is found on page 15, if you would like more details or more information. we are also recommending support on ab, 2126, on page, 16. of the matrix. and this applies, to the state's current authority to utilize construction manager, and general contractor and authority, for administering projects, large scale, complex, projects and it will be coming to another bill, similar to this in a moment that applies to you, about you this applies, only to the state. the state has the authority to do six and they have occupied the six slots in statute, and
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this will extend it to 12 for cal trans, to administer. >> mr. prazir is the author. and the state, highway and protection program is the main program or the main, financing source at the state level for the projects that are approved or we construct that provide, major maintenance and reconstruction, as well as the operational funding to operate the state highway system. and the funding is generally, only available to the cal trans. and the ctc and the annual report, recommended the expanding a one small provision within this program to allow the operations, to also have capitol improvements. so previously, up to now, the operations will be you know, widening the guard rail, and you
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know, expanding tauxiliary lane, and this allows for the capitol projects to qualify for the same projects. this bill, ab2374, was introduced by mr. chui. and we are recommending that the transportation authority not only support but register as sponsors of this measure, because it came from staff conversations with the author's office. and it would uniquely expand, or authorize, some what uniquely authorize, that the ramps, for the -- island, program and the ramps that connect to the bridge system, would be eligible utilize the cmgc authority just like we, or just like cal transhas now for a certain number of projects. and i would specifically be targeted towards some of the complex engineering and construction that is anticipated
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for phase two of the ramp project. and i have been doing a lot of due diligence with state engineers and other folks who have had concerns in the passed about the similar authority. senator bell, has introduced sb 1066 which is on page, 35, and we are recommending a support for this measure, it does not appear to do much on the surface. and it is more of a place holder sponsored by the -- and what it does is it provides in the state law, the authorization for the new fast act revenues approved by the federal government and by congress to flow to the regular programs at the state level that we anticipate them to. and in essence, it does not really change the law, but it is, and it, it would, actually be operative, if it were to pass. the game plan, however, is for the self-help counties to have,
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a joint, jointly, jointly managed bill that they can work on in case there are wrinkles in the fast act that the people have not anticipated and some of the funding formulas. so this is to preserve their option is to move the legislation. and senator glazier from the east bay has introduced us, and we are recommending the support position and it is on page, 35. the mtc, has commute benefits ordinance, and they have the authority to adopt a commute, benefits ordinance, and that is soon to expire. and this was, simply, extend that authorization, indefinitely, and consequently we are recommending support. and the final measure for your consideration, is sb, 1259, by senator runner, and on it is page, 36 of the matrix and we are recommending oppose. this picks up the idea that have
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been attempted several decade or more to allow veterans with special, decals and the ability to access toll facilities and there has been similar, authorizations in other states, where we have, and the reports are that, it can result in fraud. and associated decreases in the toll revenue. so, it is, mainly an issue of equity. with that i bring my oral part of the presentation open for questions if you have. and i will try to answer them. i am still trying to digest all of the bills. there is more than 1,000 in each house. >> so questions colleagues? >> i wanted to say on the sb1128, by glazer that the bay air quality district, and the community benefits policies and give many options or a couple of
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options to employers, and i think that is a really important one in insuring that we are reducing greenhouse gas and trips as possible. and the coalition that are really trying hard on automatic speed enforcement. and the speeding cameras. but i know that some communications with some of chui's office were fruitful up until the last minute but we are hopeful that there is legislation that comes forward, but it is a little disappointing but i want to give a shout out for the work behind the teams on those efforts but thank you so much, mr. watts for the great presentation. and commissioner yee? >> thank you, for your presentation, and i know that you mentioned some bills may not have all of the details, necessary, or whatever, and so you are watching it. and one of them may be, under or possibly may be ab 1677.
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>> on page, 9. or 17? >> i guess that what i would like to do is to move that to suggest that we urge you to move it from watch to support. and the reason for this, is because this is a bill that, so that the board of supervisors have already passed a resolution to support. and we want to keep it consistent and we want to keep the heat on. and we are actually, my office is working with the senator on this particular bill and we are trying to give them as much information in terms or suggestions about the bill, as possible. hopefully, we will have some meat on it. >> so, commissioner yee has made a motion to add, ab 1677 from the move from watch to support.
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is that your motion? >> yeah, this is in regards to the tour buses. in terms of making it possible for local jurisdiction or the local government to have the additional inspectionses as sort of the general idea. >> is there a second on the motion. >> so it is seconded by commissioner, breed. so we are adding 1677, to the action list, presented by mr. watts. any other comments, colleagues? >> let's open this up for public comment. is there anyone from the public that would like to speak? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. and so on the motion to add ab1677, from a watch to a support, position, could we do that without objection? >> the house has changed. >> so the house has changed. roll call on the motion. >> breed? >> aye. >> campos? >> absent.
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>> kim. >> aye. >> mar. >> aye. >> yee? >> aye. >> the motion passes. >> and then now on the recommendations on the new bills and the recommended positions can we do that same house, same call? >> yes. >> thank you. >> thank you, so much mr. watts. >> next item? >> item 4, introduction of new items. this is an information item. >> so let's open up this for public comment, anyone from the public that would like to speak? public comment is closed. next item. item 5. ? >> general public comment. >> good morning, commissioners. (inaudible) trueself or well-being. (inaudible) money, (inaudible) making oneself a well-being. (inaudible)
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>> thank you. >> next speaker, anyone else? >> i would like to speak about number, 18, please? if you could go to 18. so i think that we have already handled. >> you might be in the wrong meeting. >> i apologize. >> or actually i am sorry. i apologize. >> i think that the proper time would have been when we were dealing with the legislation. but you could speak on general matters. >> that is fine. >> okay. so seeing no other public comment, we will close public comment. and mr. stamos next item >> item 6, adjournment. >> thank you for coming today. meeting adjourned.
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>> i want to welcome everyone here today and today, we are signing this very important piece of legislation and let me begin by thanking supervisor wiener so far his instead of leadership the sponsoring the legislation that will raise the minimum angle for anyone purchasing tobacco products and e cigarettes to the average 24 and that will take effect on july 1st of this year i know that supervisor wiener along with his co-sponsors supervisor
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mar and supervisor cowen and supervisor farrell and ultimately the entire board had a adopted this and this i know that the supervisors with working closely with our duty 0 who has been documenting why it is showing so important to continue our efforts as a city if not as a state to continue be rooiktd the access to cigarettes particularly at journeying or younger ages that is advocated by the groups like the tobacco free coalition i want to thank them they're not just here in san francisco but the entire region and all over the country working with the health department making sure that supervisor wiener and not only pay attention it the science and data it is going on but that we do our best to end the suffering
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that is brought by by long-term smoking that obviously is the cause of cancer and asthma and heart disease we do our best to educate the public in doing so if not the industry that sells overseeing products and ultimate our kids are your family when in their 18 and 19 is shown that the coalition has shown over and over you're putting that some 95 percent of long term smokers had begun smoking at the age of 18 perhaps younger and as certain under the age of 21 those habit are so hard to end voluntarily so that's why we have to go to many other front to try to do this and that's why i think that
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the supervisor wiener has found a person cause and public health health cause if the violation kriebs the department of health to make sure that we do what we can to end our these diseases as much as we can to make sure that we also reflect as the mayor of the city if we can save a lot of money if we are able the medical systems we have to have in place it treat cancer and asthma with smoking is an incredible experience to the public safety the cleaner air with the coalition work on families that second-hand smoke impacts this has another critical reason why we want to do as much as we can
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and i think we're on the overview we know that supervisor wiener is already in contact with the governor's office as we are and with his the 1184 particularly senator leno and senator henry's to insure that the state which maybe hopefully in our minds the second to join hawaii to end the sales of tobacco products and less people under 9 age of 21 it doesn't make it right because your 21 you buy tobacco products wild to end it. everyone hopefully with the adult level of age 21 that people make better health decision tore themselves and their family so i take this opportunity to thank the coalition i know that in looking at the data as they have done in
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working with us this year was a strong sense interest the data it the smoking rates are higher amongst people of closer and amongst the let the record reflect community and other xhucht we rank it with a hard impact sales work that is done by tobacco industry the may or may not lgbt community that's where we really have good data to show that the more we do to educate your communities be about this the better off we'll be so with all that background i want to say to supervisor wiener you have again showing the good leadership i'm going to give the pen avenue we sign this your accumulate more pens than anyone but thank you for your leadership and also working with
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such important groups like the tobacco free coalition supervisor wiener i'd like to invite you up here to say a few words >> thank you, mayor ed lee i'll give that pen to the advocates and the district for they're really horroric work tutor sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us; 24 legislation in a way that highlights this critically important issue san francisco for many years has been on the cutting-edge of public safety whether around hiv or led pant and sugar sweetened beverage whatever the case weave been from the forefront and once again we are in the fire hydrant of what i hope will be a tile waive of proving health
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legislation that eliminates tobacco use in this country this is a huge problem we've been involved in a 50-year struggle but with the tobacco city that produces a product with no benefit whatsoever that kills a half a million people every year 34 is a serious issue and serious punting kiss i'm proud we live in a city where we can be on the cutting-edge where the politics of this city allows us at city hall to make good progressive policy i also want to say we know we're up against a very well financed component the tobacco destroy for decades has fought ever effort to try to control tobacco use and enemy linkage between
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their pursuit and the health we know that hillsborough tried to do that they have spent their legislation after an expensive lawsuit by the tobacco industry we in san francisco are willing to fight that fight that is amount about our city thank you to the department of public health we sometimes don't roles e releases how lucky with the best putting department that supports our efforts to make good laws that vascular critical exercise an amazing agency and our advocates for give us the political spouse space to to be able to do this and as the mayor adu u. >> you allowed we passed that legislation a week and a half
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good and the law jam the state assembly broke we that republicans willing to raise the tobacco age to 21 to pass senator leno's forward-looking bill to make sure that cigarettes are tobacco are still a way to get addicted to nicotine and will you the tobacco tax it is a huge step forward i hope goes to the governors desk thank you, everyone (clapping.) so are we ready to safe so far lives i'll add one mount reason not in my notes or the legislation but it is about my history about 10 years ago a mayor asked me to pick up cigarette butts as a public works decorator i
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>> good afternoon. i'd like to call the meeting of san francisco public utilities commission to order please. hit it harder please. mr. secretary. >> commissioner president vietor commissioner vice president moran and commissioner caen are excused commissioner courtney commissioner kwon we have quorum. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> item 3 approval of the minutes of mark 8, 2016. >> is there a motion to approve the minutes. >> so moved second >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> public comment on the minutes next item, please. >> next is general public
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comment. >> general public comment mr. da costa. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon, commissioners the last night last time i was here i spoke about some very pressing issues and i'm going to speak on that particular issue that was raised than the general manager will be as part the of a letter sent to him regarding the issue i'm here to categorically state to the san francisco public utilities commission this commission must do due diligence when it comes to quality quality of life issues so if we speak on some issue and there was a directive way back
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by congress in 1974 and the san francisco public utilities commission decided that you know they would order water department decides to do they will executed in 1980 that gap between 1974 and 1980 knowing the city and county of san francisco did do not due due diligence expands many, many years we know in public housing and i'm talking about public housing that bridge developers and mercy housing and the joe stewart company you know that they're all wanted this property they are get exhibits giving it to them and e san francisco
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public utilities commission says offering we don't have money but participating that the yuma i was listening to the budget and finance committee not too long ago your representatives oh, you know, we had a drought and san franciscans didn't waste too much water so we don't get the income and so forth san franciscans are very astute so when you tell them district attorney wastewater they don't water water but san franciscans also want an infrastructure to be in place and that's important and some of you commissioners are transient enough to understand if you're infrastructure is not in mass whether the water system improvement project or the sewer system project in light pipeline
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than san franciscans will speak up not like before with the francisco da costa is coming thank you very much. >> i have another speaker cards for kari sorenson. >> you want 10 this is a. >> item 10 say that again. >> you want to speak on item 10. >> yes. >> i can change the card. >> we're still on general public comment any oth comments on items not on the agenda? >> yes. commissioners mayor's office of housing and community development my name is david i'm
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here on behalf of the solutions not the sandbags the "x" keep your eyes on the ball and out flows that occurred during major sewer storms the point i'd like to make whether or not we deal with this directly and the puc embraced the opportunity or not is a question how will it be solved presently indians the epa and state water board are looking at 0 into this commission and there are people other than myself regarding the damage the 5 different neighborhoods effected by the excursion i'd like to suggest that we can i have the overhead please? >> i'd like to suggest that we're rolling the today is that the today is that are being used are shaved today is on the part of staff
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and they come up 7 or 11 whenever they describe the workshops it is just goes to cost too much to the ratepayer just to say it i don't know how often you see these this is what a bill looks like i'm suggesting the bills are going to be greater that the bond measures will be more expensive in those issues are not addressed with that in mind i'd like to ask when the next workshop will be presented to the san francisco puc that's one and as a closing thought this sense of exceptionalism on the part of san francisco they can decide the rules under which they operate regardless of what the state or federal government says or a judge that is the issue
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coming up before you people are going to have to vote on bond measures of future as revenue products but at the same time i'd like to on the puc and the commission will be mindful of the lack of public confidence in this the issues how those relishes addressed thank you. >> thank you very much. >> any other general public comment? >> hearing none, next item, please. >> item 5 communications and i'd like to make note on item 5 for the summary you have an updated letter summary that is letters received over one from eric brooks and patty and carolyn and those have been provided to the public as well. >> so i have a question i don't know if it is just on my copy my directors desk he didn't
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see the cal vs. the communication with a duplicate of the line item ascertainment item that is a mistake in mine and i am still eager to read what the cal vs. screen summary statement says so commissioners any comments on communications? >> any public comment on communications item number 5? >> yes. >> please. mr. da costa. >> okay. yeah. i'm to give
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you my card for the record. >> that's okay. >> okay. >> so i want to talk about the water pipeline assessment and i printed the letter excuse me - >> so i printed a letter and i alluded it to this letter during general public comment so i'm asking the commissioners that, please read this letter and this is about our drinking pipes and other pipes and there is a lot of hogwash in this letter
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we have some unions who do not want to use pipes that are more resistant or that can endure earthquakes so we need to have an understanding and make a decision do we want this pipes to break so we get people to work more? and build with fragile pipes and when pipes break that is contemplation in our public housing that are led pipes not look at an item of an act passed in 197 had the city decided to
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enact in 1980 the sfpuc had some general idea because the sfpuc as it stands today was really formed in 1996 i was alive and kicking and so was willie brown so today, i'm asking the commissioners and i guess they're giving me, too minutes i need a half an hour actually please evaluate the pipes the drinking pipes that come t homes in our general our public housing right now because they have been adversely impacts impacted for years and no one is speaking to it i wrote about it i tried to address it but we don't have the money and whatever but we do have the
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mon money. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> any other public comments on item number 5 communications? hearing none, next item, please. >> other commission business. >> commissioners? business? >> hearing none, next item, please. >> item 7 report of general manager. >> good afternoon, commissioners my first update on the drought steve richie. >> can i have the slides steve richie general manager so far water under the start with the statewide information a slide i've shown at different times the state of the states reservoirs in january of 2015
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and the not the blue bars are well, do you think in a lot of the reservoirs moving forward that is the state of the same reservoirs of march 21st the blue bars are way up northern part of the state lake over and over very well and others a lot of water in them as fulsome and some of the southern part are still down an important note which has come up to almost historical average level and as you can see that was way, way down it is really good to see that come up and the good thing for us out of that as storage the keynote the water bank storage we're at three hundred and 16 arc feet and rising we're getting good water into the storage so our chance of the system is increasing as we
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moving forward the storms weekend before this last helped us out and other reservoirs the state on the cumulative perspiration as you can see we've jumped up over would above the normal, in fact, we're at for hetch hetchy 100 percent right now for the year we're doing quite well, there and show page not up to medium conditions but still better than in years overall the water outcome is looking pretty positive for us this is the up country 6 station index that is a little bit below the annual total for year to date but again most of months 1, 2, 3, 44 out of the last 6 months have been above average precipitation and the bay area a big month in march our reservoirs here video a lot of
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water as well so we'll actually don't have to deal with with operationally now too much water on the hands water available to the city 200 and 41 feet available to the city the districts so probably 50/50 chance of making the 8 hundred plus feet available to the city again, the whole whether we have front to date has looked positive for our system the last slide will our deliveries the red is the last 56 year average the apply is 2015 last year, the black dashed line what we wanted to achieve with the state water board and the green this year so people have not yielded decided the drought is over their conserving water it is a good thing people are saving water
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and our demands are below last year from a commercialism prospective we're doing well in the best of both words worlds so i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> if you have a question that randy got last weekend we have a 5 year storm is it close. >> well, you know it is interesting it was a big weekend in terms of the return period on that you know it varied by where you were seller it was a good-sized storm a 5 year storm i can't tell you i don't know for sure. >> maybe that is better answered when we talk about the wastewater their manufactured in rainfall. >> okay. >> so we're in pretty good shape. >> overall we're in public comment is closed. shape. >> is there a moment when the
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drought gets declared through the contract or some point when we get a certain amount of rain. >> two comments southern california has not had the precipitation they're low in some of the reservoirs you saw and catch up as much as northern part of state the state what are you going to do about that? will tape take this up in - the governor makes the decision and we'll be following his lead he may at some point say look we've gotten better but not good yet and from our prospective any year that comes is a good year but the next year could be a bad one we have to presume we're in a drought world this is our nature but we may fill this year
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and the state is the statewide a drought condition an odd circumstance but we have a good hydraulic i didn't. >> the weather is good it wrand last weekend the announce. >> it dropped off right away but the reservoirs got all the waters. >> that's an issue of concern; right? >> oh, yeah fortunately, we've have room to school bus. >> next speaker, please. >> next a cleanpowersf update. >> excuse me - call for public comment. >> i was going to do that but i could do that if you like. >> madam secretary. >> public comment on the drought?
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>> mr. da costa. >> yes. i think that is important that when you get subjects like this the drought and the implicit after each item you allow the public to speak so everything is fresh mr. richie can you have a presentation about the state of affairs with the water but really in the year 2016 we also need to get some assessment on our water shed our water shed plays an important role now it is very easy for us here in san francisco so just talk about the water and we must remember for thousands of years whatever was there and is there the hetch hetchy area was preserved and protected by the
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tribes and we always have to remember as long as you believe the united nations because ones called we need to respect the native-american i know some of you are new but those who are not paying attention you better learn to respect the first people of the area now a i don't see that i represent the first people of san francisco and adjoining areas the tribes if you don't want to believe that i'll provide any testimonials i'm sensitive so-called experts talk about the drought in a sfoishl manner in my subjective opinion we need the heavy rains year after year maybe for the next 4 years and
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then it ain't going to happen because of climatic change so el nino is comes ones in every i don't know 40 years or 35 years whatever so we have to make the best of it and we're lucky that everybody is saying our lakes are full our reservoirs are full our rivers are doing good the sale man or making process and so forth this is good so commissioners drought is something that we have to look in its totality not only the snowcaps and the how dense the water is when they take those measurements but also our water shed and just going to brought to your attention the central
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valley we've had land sink four or five feet because people stepped into the water shed so even though that is not our area it is because it is connected so one of you commissioners to form a small committee so that then the other committees and the many experts you're paying over 200 and $50,000 will benefit they can give us a report on our water shed thank you very much and go to the board of supervisors. >> thank you. any other comments on the contract next item please. >> clean power update barbara hale. >> thank you, commissioners balancing assistant general manager i have 3 items to brief you on over my name is in enrollment status the pca
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workshop and the net energy metering proposals so first off on the milestones and enrollment we're on track for serving customers may 1st our opt out are low and stable we have projected 20 percent of the customers that web enrolled about opt out we're really at this point only seeing 0.3 percent that have opted out out in terms of preparing for the august enrollment customers have raised their hands and saying let me in one and 34 residents enrolled one plus are supergreen and we're seeing this for the august one any folks that want to participate in the probation officer program this year needs to let us know go on
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cleanpowersf.org you'll have to do that before august one on the pcia. >> before you golden go on i seeing a low opt out increasing we're anticipating thirty megawatts of power with the loss r allow opt out. >> 35 points 9 right now. >> yeah. and so serving more than we expected but prepared for that and we're all set to go may 1st on the california public utilities commissions workshop you'll recall in december the commission took a position on the pcia the charge that customers who participate in a program like our cleanpowersf pay those charges went bypassing up dramatically pursuant to the
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puc decision in those decision they weren't going to lower the impact but a workshop that allows the folks and opportunity to sort of vet the methodologies and talk about what needed to change that yap was held we participated in coordination is mc e and the lancaster choice and sonoma were the people they made a presentation that we worked with them on and a number of stakeholders in san francisco also provided emphasis and public comment which i thought was helpful in terms of outcome we're not particularly quite frankly optimistic we'll see any modifications to the methodology the future
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the preceding commissioners that flores is having a workshop report issued and establishing a working group to continue to work about the pcia methodology and impacts we will continue to collaborative with the other working groups and inform at the california public utilities commission to help to contain the pcia costs and the other charges that the california puc is passing into our commissioners not much open middle-income we're sticking with the process and with that, i'll move forward to the net metering proposal we handed out a packets pathways available over here but i have a slide we can bring that up please.
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great. >> so what i'd like to talk about the agenda items you see here what the net metering energy and how to work with the cleanpowersf from the staff presentation as the proposed objectives i've got a survey with other meters programs you can understand how ours might and the next steps are at this point, we're i'm faxing making an informational presentation not a vote ensue april 26th our plan to bring a terrace and the proposal forward at this time and the customers in cleanpowersf on may one will take advantage of the netted metering if they have solar on their roofs or putting it often this year. >> so first of all, the optimistic same optimistic for cleanpowersf you have seen numerous time but with the net
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metering is one of the methods for investing the local networks and jobs it is consistently presented and in that way one of our cleanpowersf will encourage the existing and new sf accelerator customers to join clean power that is net energy metering it is a program that allows the customers that install onsite renewals that is solar to receive they're on their electric billion bill credits they generate more electricity then they consume lots of folks refer to letting the meter run backwards and in san francisco we have a fair number of folks that are prartd
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or eligible to participate the net metering program how many do you know that's what the slide shows that's fine you can see of 2014 there were over 64 net metering customers in san francisco we took that pg&e data and stechltd going forward there are 11 percent of the existing net energy metering customers generate more electric on an annual basis there are hours out there that are sort of spilling on the grid and showing benefits to the rest of san francisco we want to see if there is a way to harness that for the cleanpowersf program; right? >> getting to a little bit more specific about that o what that means the top slide is a customers generation and
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accumulation the generation on that slide is shown as the black line excuse me - is shown as the red line >> the black line shows the consumption in certain parts of years the consumption exceeds the red hit. >> area and in some portions the year excuse me - some portions of the day not the year but the day the generation is less than sorry yes. the generation is less than consumption so the customer the blue areas is using imprisoned power the yellow area they're using the solar power and the red is spill off their roof to others during that day and seconds on the bottom slides the bottom chart we take the
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spij and apply it on a bill basis what were the blue areas and now become red this is what the arrows show on the bottom part and what we want to do with the program design for metering reach a objective and that's what i'm showing here we want to encourage the folks existing cleanpowersf to install solar and make sure that folks that are net metering energy customers on pg&e system join cleanpowersf and provide them with a track of concentration because we see that is a benefit to cleanpowersf we want to make sure we capture that by the people and they get compensated
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but we want to be fair for the exercises not engaged the cleanpowersf we want to prices the killing wart right and keep it simple if you participate in a net meters program it is be complicated difficult to understand and developing over program we'll try to keep our part as simple as possible but frankly that is complicated and we're working with the pg&e billing process so there is specific requests we'll need to answer i'm not asking you to answer them today, i'm asking you to - i'm briefing you on this today to have been time before we answer those on april 26th those questions are here so i members of the jury the earlier slide that over the course of a day those kilowatts hours that are jasz in the
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consumption at the hours or business or one of the question is how frequently do we chew that up or frequently we look at this an individual customer receives when we do that what values the generation credits what's the prices we put on those kilowatt hours the state of california in state law has said you'll see how that floor is the next slide by other programs and then also when should customer credits be cashed out and what value should they be cashed out so this slide shows you what some of the other programs look like and how they've answered those questions so on the question of true you'll see pg&e trusts up a bill and buys them
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and lancaster choose with emergency and sonoma and the plaintiff cia they bill them monthly and do on annual true up the credit the value of the enabling is implied to the customers bill if a month they have more generations so pg&e it is the retailed rate for lancaster of choose that is the floor set by the state and for metz and sonoma clean power they give a bonus of a penny not consumed by the customer and with respect to annual cash out
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or the cashing outlets is over the course of a year you communed electricity and generated electricity but you need - we need to assess who qualifies for a cash payment or a value as it gets to realize the value figure out what prices we'll value the excess generations as you can see here that all the three or four excuse me - represented here do perform that on a cash out on a annual basis pg&e carries forward only those kilowatt hours that on an annual basis are more than a customer
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consumes so that we talked about earlier how a day would look with xrumgs from the grid and the solar system over the course of a year you may find you consume more electricity than our system actually generation is pentagon says if you do actually consume more electrical your net customer there's no pay out for you >> and lancaster clean power does the same thing over the course over the year of generating more your consuming lancaster makes a payment and marin and sonoma actually
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accommodate the credits that you see month to month and they'll make a pay out whether you're a net generate or 0 net customer and for the evaluation you see the differently values placed on the kilowatt hours please excuse me - >> with pg&es value assigned the lowest rate shown here at $0.03 lancaster at the their vtsd cost of $0.06 and marin and sin mom plus a penny same as they provide the most of credits so let's look at how it happens for typical residents what you see first is the
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necessities energy consumption of a customer in blue and this is before they have a solar system now let's assume they install solar on their roof and as you can see that net energy consumption is from a positive to a negative and it is a bigger negative than that was a positive which means they're generating during may know june, july, august, september all in the red and april their producing for electricity than their consuming their spilling on the grids kilowatt hours october through february they have positive net energy incumbrance during those months they're using grid power on the whole less than they would have
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without a similar system but on the net they're using power public school the green dot line shows what the bill credits with under this somewhere as you can see may know through september and april your - not april but may through september because of the net energy consumption they're showing bill credits and during the summer excuse me - during the winters seconds they're eating up the bill credit not accommodating but by april they're coming to about even at zero this shows on an annual basis how the net energy meters system how the system about generate an offset consumption and the bill credits to be applied monthly.
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>> we're proposing that all which happen customers will be provided generation only the generation portion of the service that i'm sorry we need to recognize that which happen provides only the generation portion of the service that is the only portion of the bills in terms of the bill credits we'll be influencing that we want to insure that any customer that participate in our net metering program will also be a net energy customer of pg&e's that way they'll also get credits for distribution and transmission and we will design a program to make sure it works with the pg&e net metering offers for commercial and residential we propose that any eligible
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renewal resource needs to be less than a megawatts that should not be two tough in san francisco and a project needs to be principally for their own load a requirement of pg&e's program in terms of of the next steps we'll be taking a proposal to the rate fairness board this is a rate we'll be a tariff item we're preparing an action item for your consideration once we represent the rate fairness board for a vote on april 26th and include the programs the net energy meter adopted the outreach and begin to implement may 1st with that, i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you.
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>> thank you and i'm pleased to see this it is great new development addition to the program thank you for all your hard work commissioners do you have any other - >> great job. >> appreciate it. >> is there public comment on this item mr. brooks are you making your way to the podium. >> good afternoon eric brooks san francisco our city of san francisco clean power it is good to see that and good to see we'll pay people more than pg&e that is the crucial point as soon as we get those we'll sell the public and the one concern i'll raise we've been tied by the bond change chain of one megawatt or less for decades we need to get around that i believe that marin and sonoma
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are offering net meters and/or fed and tariffs for large projects we need more larger projects they provide better job benefits by building more it is crucial we don't just want net meters for one mel emerging what the thanks. >> where did barbara go is there potential once we've brought on beggar customers to be able to - >> we're planning on having a feeding tariff program we are going through the preparation of that now and we should have it operational middle of this year and that should serve the needs of large man a megawatt for a tariff that's what we're looking at for for that. >> okay for the net metering? >> net meters is limited to
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one megawatt and why is that? >> the state of california pass a law that made that imposed that state is a low equity in california. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you, commissioners from sf i wanted to thank the staff for moving forward i think that .3 opt out rates may not be you know we may not be able to extrapolate that citywide but better than we thought and hopefully that will help reduce conservatism about moving forward on future faces as we've looked about not only signing people up for supergreen but seeing none, high blood pressure people up early one of the challenges given how the
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consumer things work if our society saying sign up and in 8 months you'll get cleaner energy but the switch gets - the faster to the full city the better for supergreen signs up and opts out 350 our con grandmother we remember at the pcia is a disaster and anything that you folks can do to help the public be represented in the public utilities commission is greatly appreciated as far as the net metering program it is looking great i think that is you know foggy here i think the department of the environment says that not a ton of energy can be generated from the rooftop 11 percent on average an example of folks that
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are generating more than they're using certainly, if we are allowed to - a building or businesses were able to put more panels on the roof to offset their load, i.e., their trying to be a power janitor and i imagine that may not be a financial hit but if you want to generate clean local energy it is important to remember, if we let folks clean power customers we buy it to the net energy we're selling to the customers that are paying a premium kind of how the math pencils out it is important but it is possible we could just make more money i even that's it but we're really excited to see this thank you. >> thank you.
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>> jason fried executive director for lafco i think your staff does give themselves enough credit for the workshop we had several staffs raising points how the pcia needs to represent what is the best interest of the bundled but the unbundled consumers looking both sides not just one i give them credit for the input and the work with the pcia agencies worked together to come up with a good presentation to show how to modify 3 as far as the net metering i think your staff did an excellent job the programs i want to encourage to make sure we have something as quickly as possible for may first to launch is big when i'm talking to the folks he occasionallyly run into
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a solar rooftop person it is important one of the things it is noted only 11 percent right now are estimated to be energy generators one or more of the reasons that occurs pg&e offers and lousy return of money if you over produce a lot of the dollars sailing don't over produce that is as far you don't want to be an over producer it costs money to put the panels on the roof so we're offering something better i know we needed to pay attention not to pay too much it drives up the cost of solar but you can find the swop to produce above the 11 percent a better rate of return and hey you can put the extra of panels on the roof and offer
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produce and that's fine because it won't cost you money but the current system is santa fe incentivizing because the brown power not making what renewal energy should be finding and i encourage your staff to find the swop for more roofs over producing and energy is 70 percent if all the roofs have solar not all can have solar but we have an opportunity for the energy generation i encourage us to do the best possible our staff is heading in that direction. >> any public comment? >> i think that is important to note something that is being consistently messaged on that is how competent and effective our
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staff and barbara and the rest of the staff deserve that 3 is a long road you know but i represent the workers it's not always been like that but appropriate. >> thank you for your comments and a reminder august 1st is the enrollment date cleanpowersf.org to enroll in suprasupergreen we encourage you all to sign up i've signed up and i'm sure my fellow commissioners have too so thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> madam secretary. >> item 8 the consent calendar are considered to be routine may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests removed from the consent calendar and considered as a
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separate item at this or a future hearing. 8 a for agreement a there e and authorize extending the contract by one year and six months b expect the total amount of nine hundred thousand plus with the total contract duration of consequence active payment date and c accept the contract amount of $5 million plus with the total duration of seven hundred plus consequence active days to decrease the amount by $200,000 plus and authorize the final payment to the contract and d approve the terms and conditions to lease the provide for a 9 months lease term estimation to
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substantial education. >> i'd like to remove item 8 d, please. >> unless any objection. >> so you have the consent calendar before you 8 a, b, and c is there a motion to approve the consent calendar. >> so moved. >> second. >> any public comment on the consent calendar? >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? those items pass and if we could discuss 8 d, please because i understand that our long time friend and ally might be transitioning i'd like to hear about that and the implications it is so successful and centered and hopefully, will
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continue to be moving forward. >> i'd like to be happy to do that tim with the water enterprise a that's a good question i think the short version we're in pretty good shape stage i'm reminded is into they're ten year as a tenant i'm the 11 year when i worked on the lease they've been a dog a spectacular job around the programming and we've been big supporters and from a money prospective when we started to talk about with about the future she came to us and said they wants to go a different direction and move away from the site activities and i conserved to think about that hard for a couple of weeks before they condominium at the
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do 9 and said we're ready to make the change with that mid market we want to be her to be part of transition and about the plans for the water shed center we wanted them to be part of transition so before you today with the amendment to the lease it keeps them going through the calendar year but for the benefit of families on the ground within their plans in terms of the agriculture component and the programming remember our long time program is in construction we had to hard work with the project sponsor and our staff and sonoma to work with the contractor to facilitate the programming during construction a complicated site we don't want people to be the way i have construction so part of monies to deliver their program this year and part of money for the transitioning so they can be
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part of team we sit down with our staff, with the community benefits program and with hopefully, the al manned conservation district and talk about the future the alameda county there is already involved in the work the water shed work with stage and work with us in the water shed and interested in taking over the park this is great so the very near future you'll see an amendment to the contract and a new agreement to be the longest sited manager at the park and in the next 6 months work extraordinarily and with stage to look at the program and to really learn from the experience to help with the master plan with the water shed centers and then take all the best ideas within the organization with the other programs the city and develop a
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revised program that will be the one we'll implement at the water shed center this is a good 6 months from the staff prospective but before you is the first step to allow stage to be part of the contribution i know to have a 10 anniversary in the spring we're helping them with the specifics here in july and i'm sure we'll have the august festival and make sure both of those things can happen during the construction felt long time project a lot going on but this is they're the first step to be more are going to come back to the commission for the consideration and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> it seems like an interesting opportunity i mean first of all, i hope that will allow an opportunity to acknowledge her and her work as part of transition i want to
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make sure we do that she's been a champion but it somalia's an opportunity to really think about i mean, i know at some point we have a college hill groundbreaking our urban agree policy work we'll hear about and reviewing it is just strikes me that that might be an opportunity to think about this the context of that and also hear an update of the water shed center and the vision and what the puc staff or active involvements will be with the locate operator we'll take on if it is an interpretative center that represents the pucs reflective of the schools and other places that demonstrate educate with the water shed and where the water comes from an opportunity to talking about and mclaren if this commission with
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this change of what the future can hold for that site i know there is a lot of community interest - if we could get an update of what that looks like with this change that will that would be helpful. >> we'll be happy to do that and act this is an important and good time to have that discussion we'll be happy to do that whatever makes the most sense. >> thank you, madam chair when i come back i've heard great things but i want to make sure we do is shed light on staff of what are the was this the what this rates and the opportunities for advancement covered by the collective bargaining a pension and health care when you start
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to talk about sutro to permanent relationships the public works we know we do that and the public and private sector when those nchts begin to want that permanent relationship with the land we need to make it clear we 7, 8, 9 to talk about what the benefit is to the employees that they have a certain standard of living and the whole bit i lord to having that conversation and seeing data about the employees. >> i think that part of the process what this will happen and make sure that happens sage is a profit organization and the other one is different but i think hail they'll be happy to provide that and will that be a profit operator after sage is done. >> we're talking about the pg&e to run the i park didn't
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mean there is not room for anything else to help. >> understanding the pros and cons to that approach do you know to the point of will there is a benefit to work with the existing policies we're trying to advance on urban add or the community interests down there i mean sonoma and make sense to identify a nonprofits or whether the state maybe make it simpler but something we modesty losses. >> i'll be happy to to make sure that part comes to light and let the agency phone call for themselves they're a - they report to the board of directors they do workforce in the water shed with the land management and help the sage repair the
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coordinator and the education corridor they look and feel like the poem we're trying to be and it is a good match i reason that is good discussion to have and they'll be happy to have it. >> okay. you want to add something. >> i want to pout the timing we have about 9 months so i think that you know with this situation go an opportunity so far us not only identify with what will work well but more alignment so i think that as great opportunity we'll have to move fast if there is you know momentum and may be going in a different direction a process i'm concerned that you know sage we're working with them as part of transition and 9 months may not be enough if they go in a
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different directions we're looking at that but we'll come back with some updates. >> yeah. soon is fine you, you want to come back (laughter) i think that will be helpful i do think that is an opportunity we should look at it like that and it makes me think about the urban automatic work we've not heard in sometime a policy components that we need to review as part of this i don't know the answer to that but not sure what the overall objectives but maybe time a meeting that addresses those at the same time to give us an update. >> all of us my staff and myself have been focused on getting through the process to get the process to construction the actual buildings overwhelminged us for a couple of years we're all starting to
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come back to the programming and the people part of it again from my prospective interesting discussion and better one to have then the architecture but this is more real to me i think the times is good and look forward to doing that what makes sense for the commission. >> soushldz we approve the lease for the next 9 months a motion to approve. >> so moved and second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> yes oh, sorry public comment eric. >> that's already eric brooks san francisco green party sustainability chair that is great to see you're getting ready to say yes to continue this i think that is important to bring in part of this conversation this also goes beyond just sustainable land use and water use i'm sure the
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project is headed in this direction on the climate crisis there are new techniques emerging not new but use the sustainable agriculture techniques to get roots structures to grow underground and build up carbon and soil so rapidly that 10, 20 e.r. thirty or 40 or 50 years down the road the key to avoiding the disaster climatic situations the record that was releases e released carbon farming is crucial and i'll urge the commission and urge the program to really focus on that there is a thing called the marin carbon project they can look at it and stuff growing in australia it is
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groundbreaking there is a particular permit automatic farmer named d o h ar t y leading the way on the processes and a lot of it has to do with with growing particular graze that has a system it give us caps quickly carbon rich under the atmosphere some i will one little caveat a lot of these programs that are coming out on the landlords are using livestock grown for to accomplish the cutting processed where you cut the grass and leave the roots in the ground that created e creates age unnecessary release of carbon and the atmosphere not needed better to let wildlife the areas and/or there are techniques
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where you can break off or cut the plants without harvesting them and they bottom composite and you're getting more carbon so this is my long spill it will be really good from the commission can not only encourage this project to serve water sustainability and clean water sustainability but also the climate impacts this could have a profound effect if they drifd into the techniques like the farming is one of them if u could encourage them to do that that would be great. >> i'm familiar with the carbontion with the sestriation and i believe that we have to see your piloting a project it
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would be great to hear about the status of that project. >> there's a lot of components i think the marin carbon project and a small part we've been part of that has a grant with the r cd they're doing the county wide to the public and private landowner we're teed up to be part that have that in some way shall happen or form working with my group. >> that's exciting work thank you eric for reminding us any other comments on 8 d from the public hearing none. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> are you in favor. >> opposed? that motion carries. >> our next item please madam secretary. >> item 9 approval amendment
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number 6 to increasing the agreement duration by 6 months and i do want to note a change to the resolution the resolve clause at the last sentence we're removing the words suggest to the board of supervisors approval pursuant to charter section and copies have been provided to the commission and public with that change. >> so commissioners you have an amended resolution before you and ms. howe before you as well. >> good afternoon commissioner general manager we're asking to extend this contract with the irs for this we don't have to change the contract to say a e coming but extend to have the design consultant work with us on the two outstanding claims we
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have with the contractor. >> so is there a motion to approve so moved. >> second public health. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> that motion carries next item please. >> item 10 is a workshop presentation and discussion and possible action to endorse the sewer system improvement updated goals and level of service and stage one strategies for the phase one projects and the overall total $6.9 billion. >> so this item is you know to give background the commission had endorsed the $6.9 billion program and authorized staff to proceed with phase one of the program is what staff has done
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and i'll have our program director go into more detail staff has been working hard to develop more detail and establish more solid baseline schedule with that, i'll let karen give her presentation. >> good afternoon, commissioners commissioner president vietor katrero park with the improvement program and today, we'll be discussing baselineing the resources program and similar to this we'll be returning on a 2 year frequency to talk about the scope and schedule and budget today's presentation is phase one if i could bring up the slides.
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>> so the action that are part of this approval the actions day we're requesting are enforcement and the enforcements of the overall ssi p and the enforcement of baseline scope and schedules of the phase one project. >> somehow it the been 3 and a half years since we wanted or went through the validation and all the working groups under the leadership of harlan kelly and kathy our general manager and the executive team are pushed this forward our work to date has a better definition of the costs and of the schedules and that's really the crux of our bangs part of august 2012 we
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enforce our levels of service for the $6.9 billion and part of action we're asking for modifications to the climatic change because the original level service actually has been revised bans the national and statewide standard this is a revision adopt by the city that is the work with ssi p has been adopted by the city and county of san francisco the only other change that could potentially come up as part of the level of service when we get back to you in may the flooding analysis i think a question came up earlier because we do have so many commissioner kwon so many micro compliments in to town not an easy question but 21 ranges and 20 of the 21 were below the
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the level the lake merced was above i know that stephanie will be reporting on these things at that time, we'll have a discussion whether we want to change the level of stiffer service for managing stormwater and minimizing phleboids i'm lucky assistant by dan our preconstruction technical advisors a member of the project management team and has been here since the validation process and the current time we've talk about with you the process what is changed from 2012 and our updated cost schedule and i'm going to ask dan to a couple i has a heavy lifting the presentation dan, if you will. >> thanks karen and good afternoon, commissioners
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as karen mentioned we have under taken a refinement process to make sure the ssi p has the right projects and remains flexible to deal with the changes since 2012 throughout the process we're through taken worked with finance to insure the results of the efforts will remain consistent with the plan last month i'll show you the results by you walk you through to the changes that you endorsed in 2012 we'll look at the project for the fattens of the city example p and identify the changes and walk you through how the schedule is modified as well
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we'll go the process we're recommending you forward and finally we'll identify some additional projects for your consideration and show you how they'll fit into the program this process started with the review of the phase one projects and it was done through a series of working group we assigned a priority to it priority one with projects that need to remain in the phase one effort those projects are the lakes of the head works project and reliability and redundancy projects that are key to maintaining the 3 facilities. >> a priority 2 project one that we might eliminate or defer to phase two with an acceptable level of risk an example of the project will be we started the effort we needed to maintain the
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existing digest of the facilities while the others ones were rebuilt we've been investing money but realized that the operation of those facilities are now such that plants staff and operation and maintenance feel confident they'll maintain those facilities without additional investment we're eliminating the replacement digestion of a tin roof will do repair and will be satisfied that that is acceptable risk and save money at area of deferral is on the westide of the city the west side pump station redundant and we'll recommend deferring more so in an effort it is a younger force main and some means we can provide with staff in terms of an issue but also a more alignment with the work on the
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grace ocean master plan to deter that priority 3 projects we can eliminate an example will be we had scope reduction the offshore and shaerpz pimp station we'll invest money as we work to the condition assessment we can accomplish those activities through the r and r and not a capital project we looked at deferring the projects in a category that will be in some instances we had planning and design and construction dollars in twaes we offend to move the planning to reside in twin peaks with the construction money so you'll authorize that in pump one action
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we looked refining the promotions two examples following the validation in 2012 - this enables us to look at scientifically how the shoreline when it rains how it december pates we found on the ocean the tush licensed less than is so dramatic and strong the impact of the discharges are gone within a day when the facilities were built it was thought the impact for the last 3 days we're seeing a decrease in the impact and therefore we feel we have protection of beneficial uses before i not moving forward with the expansion of the capacity of the west side pump stacey station for pump more flow of the ocean the second part the central bay
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side we presented in 2012, we had a place holds diameter and a smaller diameter of green that move forward and we found is that we don't need a thirty needed diameter tunnel and can meet the retirements the runtcy at discharges and the potential for a lower discharge requirements for a smaller tunnel and the massages are going on we see a significant savings and finally following the prioritization we found we looked at the schedules i'll go over shortly i'll do now walk you through. >> sorry on the tunnel sizings i remember the conversations we've had did you also look at the smaller sizes as well the 16
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and 17. >> commissioner we looked at - we looked at what will be the smallest from channel to down to the plant as an open cut so the smaller size we needed a 7 or 8 foot that can't be built in that area so the smaller size a 12 footed detriment from 12, 17, 23, 24, and others if pits thorough and interesting uh-huh. >> that is with green and we're looking green as well yes, ma'am. >> what's was it complimentary. >> yes. >> we're going to come back to that project the main thing we're going through the initial analysis that we're going from a thirty feet to a 17 i wanted to keep in mind that you know you don't want to choke it down so
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much you have additional rain to store more water to choke off the system. >> right. >> okay. if we can go back to the slides. >> maybe we'll keep on talking. >> when we came to you in 2012 we presented 3 fattens phase one the priority projects we felt were net to accomplish and as you can see some of the projects from planning and some just to planning and design i made that reference before as you can see $2.7 billion 2.2 related to the treatment plant improvements and the priorities of solid and head works and compliance in looking at the update in 2016 we're maintaining approximately
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the 2. $7 billion prototype 0 traffic stop and the priorities are the same so projects have gown up and some projects down the increased area of head works we're working tarts the 25 design but we're seeing a change in dental. >> philosophy more in line with the cross the assess at orange county facilities that planning wants incorporated into the project we had the benefit of two years of piloting with the status quo with the factor into the design and more control facilities and made improvements to the bruce pump station to make it an all weather station and we've had the impacts of construction and packaging sequencing and escalation we see
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a reduction in the scope of the north point project the deferral of the west side course main to you mentioned to the beach and this is where we move the projects if phase one planning and design to max them with the construction in phase two >> when we presented twaes in 2012, we jumped up to $3.3 billion worth of investment but one billion dollars was treatment plant and $2 billion in collections you start to see switching the plants focusing on updating e upgrading the function system in the update this year we see a significant reductions in phase two in part because of the projects that i described where the central bay does it is a significant savings and the
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removal of the west side pump station is significant as well one area we increased the sewer improvements we did the validation we anticipated the large sewage to be the assessment activities through the experience we've gained the last couple of years we've allocated dollars to make the improvements as we moved e though the system the one and thirty millions you see phase three again, it is about $900 million slit between the plants and the collection system and as we worked through the analysis this year we are not making recommended changes to the phase three projects so 2012 just in $6 billion
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authorized in the phase one activities when we really that up and compare to the results of the update we've completed which you'll see is we've raised the same in phase one but a significant drop over $400 million in the program this is a program that meets the requirements of level of service that karen talked about and in satisfies providing a reliable redundant system what i want to do now is walk you through the schedule change we're looking at back in 2012, we presented to you a 20-year program under $7 billion us to present that in phases we did that in august of
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2012. >> can i stop you for a minute looks like we're moving from schedule to bunt; right? >> yeah. it is out of you know sequence. >> no, my sequencing is okay. but we'll be luke schedule. >> looking at schedule and return to the budget summary in the additional projects. >> i want to make sure we're still tracking here. >> i mean what i'm gleaning we're seeing pretty good saving potentially right our baseline budget but i'd like to i'm sort of seeing none, e seeing it is broken down one big particular item it is really driving those things. >> maybe i should suggest that you jump to the budget part and then come back to the
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