>> testifier: good evening commissioners. from the slope design review board, like to point out from our letter that you all received that 3 issues remain which is why we are here. one, relate to site by stepping on the hillside. 2, incorporates side yards to break up the box effect on the streets between the 2 buildings, and use façade elements to break up the box effect on the north side which will be viewed from the bernal heights park and boulevard. thank you. >> testifier: commissioners were ready to meet last month

with the developer dpw. he'd give a debut dpw did not finish this treatment. still unknown other developers of liberation's and the running of utility lines to the new law. until this is completed were not able to meet with the developer. >> testifier: bureau street and mapping does not review proposed street for drive street garage ice. the only agency that does that is you guys. dpw doesn't check to make sure this treatment is that you can get your car in. if it's not you then who? this is the pratt street the steepest street in the city. that's the house that doesn't have the garage. if so steep you can get a carton. that's what they're proposing. so if you want to build a garage but no access this is the test case. this is

the proposed project. it's a 10% slope in the diagram. the buildings are 87 feet apart. only 25. so when you look at the package that's not a bad street you can drive up that you can't. this is what you will have to drive all. it's steep. you need 4 wheel dr. the plot to extort the made a 12 foot vertical put under drop the slope from 36 to 24. they can't do it here. retaining wall that i spoke about pg&e put it in. that's pg&e messing w messing with élan. the right on top of it. there's no parking for this building. >> testifier: dynasty because

i have to say am disturbed by the amount of misinformation of the sponsor especially included in his general sponsor and also some of the things they talked about the rebuttal. just a couple quick of. they talk about widows of the back for privacy the reason a privacy issues because the three-story buildings 15 feet above bernal heights boulevards all these hundreds of people that enjoy the view when i look into the house because the chosen not to protect the privacy of what they're doing is blocking the view. 2nd gentleman's lawyer talked about garbage will be these things will be solved. whether not soft on our street. a job and street they showed bank street with a retaining wall both 6-8 homes all have to bring 3 bins of garbage down to chat and street. every thursday morning there's 18 bins at the bottom of chapman and thanks another 18 bins at the bottom of nevada. as rats. there's not as good as completely unsecured all of those bins from these development went out and up

coming down the hill right in front of my house. my most biggest objection though if this were for calculation of the sponsors amended to you guys in order to justify this size. they're completely inflated. he listed my 10,000 1050 ft.2 house is a 1940 ft.2 out. increasing the size of the house by 84%. i asked these confront him on this and ask him how he could submit this kind of misinformation to the commission because i think it's a complete disrespect of the process. i sincerely hope that you guys will take a deep probe into this project and information that's been disseminated because there's a lot of falsities there. thank you. >> testifier: my name is mario bother. retired san francisco 500 last 15 years by mr. plan

review division for the fire department as was mentioned previous either specific guidelines for the power department axis. to live street widths grades, to this point, i haven't heard the fire department is commented on this site but i've not heard that they've approved anything yet. there are specific standards on the table developers can follow but i find it interesting tt another agency can move forward with an approval when the fire department to my understanding has not approved an exception to their specific standards. thank you. >> testifier: i just want to say i look at the corner prentice chapman streets every day for 31 years at my back window. nothing was october 12 the hook and ladder bottomed out there. it took over an hour for them to get it back onto

-street. in addition, as you saw the enterprise truck bottomed out that it took like 7 hours to be towed object i have it all on film. so the danger of that street and the development of their backhoe that slid out and smash maneuvers are in some undeveloped banks when the street work was going on, there's so many problems that without living there you just can't know and you can't solve in anybody's office. thank you. >> testifier: commissioners, the issue of privacy the developers protected by families privacy in our privacy is severely impacted by a towering wall of 2 stories of windows above the third circuit you can directly into our house our neighbors house. there is no. [inaudible] reduce the less

facing when we want our privacy. thank you. >> testifier: brian paterson again to our thoughts are wanting to make it clear with the issue is here today. this talk about i find not being within this commission's jurisdiction. the issue is little more nuanced than that. the pipeline is an unknown depth in this hillside. the street grade depends on where the pipeline is. until we know where the pipeline is we don't know what the grade of the street is going to be. the door the greater the street is we don't know how the garages connect to it. thus i don't know how the existing driveways and garages will connect to the new street. so, it's very possible: not likely, quarter to several civil engineers who spoke in the garage as proposed are nonfunctional. that means these houses do not have parking

. in addition, the existing tombs will lose parking. this serious problem that is yet to be solved. this is the reason that the street has not been approved yet. that is not approvable currently. since the developer needs to go back and do a little more homework. find out where the pipeline is. the supporters who spoken our owners of the other lots they'll be developed if this is put in. which is a ceqa concerned that there's actually thick socks getting utilities which will be developed here. [inaudible] cars bottom out and scrape going by. terrible. i would like to request since commissioners missing the continuance is possible. where is a compromise here's removed the top 4. we don't have the

street. or don't consider this project for approval until the street is approved release approvable. it's not ready for review yet. think of a much for your time. >> president fong: project sponsor might you have a two-minute rebuttal. >> testifier: i'm going to try to respond quickly that the he slowed saying that we don't have the zones the zones are on the project. they can't even see it but there's a zone one on the north side of 3526 and the other 2 zones on the south side and 3 zones are on the north side of 3515. there was a comment about the adjacent square footage of the other houses. the planning code in

bernal requires that any space over 5 feet is counted bit older houses with spirit some have been dead drops have not been counted in the square footage but we feel square footage is there. this two-story houses. cannot one-story houses. the grade of the street pursue the grade of the pipeline. we specifically designed the street to not have grading over the pipeline and don't have the street it's mostly centers that go over the pipeline to avoid creating on the pipeline and having a street that's following the grade so that is a minimum grading that were at least on the street and minimal impact on the pg&e pipeline. the driveway they say those are not practical. each driveway will be centered level and have minimal slope for the cars to

go in. so, from the curb to the center of the drugstore it's pretty much flat and then we catch the soap like that. our engineer is saying it works. dpw sees it worse. i think there's a lot of speculation out there. thank you. >> president fong: the public hearing is closed and open up to commissioners. commissioner richards >> commissioner richards: i think my 15-16 months on the commission i haven't seen the issue is congregated as this. we just sat through 9 hours worth of hearings including a good portion here this evening of this project and so many new things have come up tonight that questions about the be quite the mental capacity to process right now. i would ask that we continue this to may 5 and have this be the first item on the agenda with my commitment to actually come out and visit the site we would

vote the project sponsor and the dr requesters team as well as these other streets that first-rate registry where else you want to take me to show me this because sitting up here is hard for me right now at 9 pm trying to figure out how i want to vote on this one. i moved to continue this to may 5. >> president fong: do i hear a 2nd? moved and seconded. commissioner antonini >> commissioner antonini, i have some questions. i guess that this grade issuers come up and obviously synthesis code compliant project it must be the grade is deemed to be appropriate? >> staff: press. based on information we have but keep in mind the planning apartment doesn't evaluate this treat grade so it's not something part of our purview. dpw is their agency for reviewing the street access and the building

department would review any other access for driveways and connections into the street as her. >> commissioner antonini the same thing with the pg&e line would fall into dpw to make sure any work would not interfere with it that it would be safe. so, yes i have a few thoughts on this. i mean it is kind of complicated but it is an approvable project. this is the dr because it's code compiled a couple of games up. review from bernal heights boulevard. i mean, even if these houses are built and they do block that one small part of your walk or your drive again on a lot of other places to see the views of its a lot like you see houses. you're in a city you're going to see houses sometime. i don't see that as being an issue. we need more housing. someone is willing to

try to use some of this area to develop something that's doable we should be supportive and i can sympathize to some degree with the other commissioners. we are a little shorter tonight. if they want to a 2nd look at it we certainly could do that, but i think it sounds like an approvable project. consistent with the other things that been brought up there may be some issues though be more the province of dbi then make our the planning commission. this is a couple single-family homes so it seems reasonable to me. >> president fong as we offer comments to make suggestions the project sponsor or the neighbors can try to answer some of the questions because it seems to be livid of misunderstanding and miscommunication and my particular question to staff is the question about fire this fire actually get to this after entitlement? i think so, right

>> testifier: typically printed on his first agency to review a department we outline and the other agencies review it for safety concerns and basically against the other relevant codes so typically after planning buildings we will review it as well as fire and mechanical. >> president fong but not prior to the stage? >> staff: press. the other agencies would not have looked at it because it hasn't clear planning >> president defunct commissioner hillis >> commissioner hillis: it's appropriate we have that property on chapman a couple weeks ago when you were here for that will improve the project. i just think we don't have enough information on the engineering side intimacy agencies that we need to allow

us to prove this but could actually affect design. things like garage and access it seems like we're a little bit going to much on faith. trust us we will figure it out. we differently have these little more debates and this doesn't have to be fallen engineering drawings of the street but some indication. the project sponsor and their supporters mentioned speaking to dpw the fire department. it would just be good to have some of that input from them not saying where proving this, but that is feasible to do it. i don't think it's much and i think the pg&e issue: does but we have more information in the packet in the san bruno situation that we do about the engineering of the street i know that came from the opponents which is not necessarily r irrelevant but if

we know how the street can be developed and whether that does prohibit the slope of it it would be helpful. i don't know who develops this street, who pays for the streets. all neighbors along the street required to pay for the improvement the street has that work with this of overdoing. so, just some more comfort it seems like the developers have had questions answered by these agencies and the staff has, but i think would benefit greatly from not hearing the fire department but actually the fire department as to what tools are with potential is potentially with some of the issues are. >> president fong >> commissioner hillis: on the issue design these buildings could use a little more articulation were little more expression on them and you go

on the next street the project that seemed new on both sides i think of more articulation on the upper floor. there are some three-story, two-story garage. projects puts us a little boxy. i guess would encourage you to continue to work. doesn't sound like the request is coming from the review committee are terribly onerous. it seems like you're on the way to getting those soldiers some changes in the design also. >> president fong commissioner moore >> commissioner moore: i am in approval for the continuance but [inaudible] is all these other agencies in the leno project

built which is on the mr. records including seismic and public safety and on and on. i can understand the concern about the pipeline but we had other larger projects that is actually california pacific medical on van ness which borders the byline: franken street and the concerns are real. having witnessed what happens in another location makes that real but there are other people who are commenting and obligated to guarantee the safe construction and execution of a project. i am interested in hearing the departments themselves give us some guidance other than people who are asked in the context of the project. not that i does address the people speaking. though in the neutral position they're in would have the weight by which we need to make

what is ultimately a land-use decision. so i support the continuance and hope that everybody will come together to make this indeed an approvable project when it comes in front of us. >> president fong commissioner richards >> commissioner richards: i just received mr. wilson's letter now. so this is not just for the appellants celso pressbox are allowed to go home and think about this. i appreciate everybody's indulgence you. >> president fong >> staff: so i understand the request you're asking if we can have some of the other city agencies attend the hearing on or are we obtaining correspondence? basically i like for example the sponsors omitted a street improvement program is basically under viewer dpw. what other type of course funds- >> commissioner hoyos the fact that you can talk to and get

that. it just seems like were getting information from not the exact source. it's either someone who used to work for a fire or dpw or not directly from fire or dda by a not engineering drawings but some subset that can work in pg&e also >> staff: bearing in mind the intent of the request were happy to facilitate whatever information we get from our sister agencies and the spread also setting expectations properly, i think it's fair to say visas, both to provide definitive responses without having wonderful course of their respective processes. as one put that out there. for your consideration. >> president fong commissioner antonini

>> commissioner antonini: there were some concerns about design. there were concerns about side yards and other things the eastern slope was brought up guiding this gives us a good opportunity project sponsor to work in address those concerns that were raised today and see we can make some modifications that would make the project more in keeping with the design guidelines if they aren't already in conforming. i mean, that we should use out, without those issues resolved and then hopefully all we need to know from the other agencies it's doable. we feel that grade is doable. we feel the cars can get and the garages. we don't expect them to do other work before we do our land-use decision but at least we want to know it sounds like it's a doable thing. location of the pg&e the street will apparently will not go over that. that

line will be to decide where the street is. so that's the other thing we need to >> president fong commissioner richards >> commissioner richards: there was a test that would make me more comfortable the pipe is that something though be acquired anyways given but you need to go with all this with the street permitting and all that stuff? is a possibly again i need to do it you can do it before? >> testifier: when we met with pg&e they said at some point in the process before we can start any work you would have to do excavation to do some exploration to see exactly where the line is. they said the line is between 3 and 4 feet below grade but because it's on the slope and might have moved us. we don't know for sure exactly where it is. there is a process that we outlined in the permits.

>> president fong: okay commissioner moore >> commissioner snorkel and am supposed to give them such an answer. this is a potted lot in a buildable subdivision after hedging and saying its figure out later because that's unusual because the love high-definition of buildable lot is identified by with the city is showing on the maps. there somewhere here a disconnect between what is happening here. do you have any comment on that? has that happened before? it's very unusual >> testifier: i need to watch my words it teaches need is a very large agency and much of what they do is not clear with very deep engineering background. this could be something i suggest that some folks that suggest they don't

know precisely how deep the spec line is good it could be they want to take for example precautions during construction sofa, and were resting on the slope of the pipeline measures should be planted. it really we don't have this matisse here to speak to that. >> commissioner moore is a positive and i think we should politely requested as a meeting of minds. if we have buildable lots plotted lots that i think it is our responsibility as a commission to facilitate reasonable developable plans without that being a question of concern. so i just want to say that and i'm sure everybody who's sitting here feels were sitting between a rock and a hard place. >> president fong commissioner hillis >> commissioner hoyos: i think i would agree.it may get the

project is approved and ultimately when you try to build this development but i think some of these agencies we can get information from and we should just to get up give a gut check whether it's doable or not. >> president fong commissioners >> staff: there's a motion to continue this letter to may 5 and has been seconded on a motion to mr. antonini aye, hillis aye mar aye the richards aye fong aye. so moved the motion passes unanimously 5-0. based on general public comment which i have no speaker cards. >> president fong any general public comment this evening? not seen any general public

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>> this is regular meeting of vision zero committee for thursday march 31, 2016. i am supervisor norman yee and i will be chairing today's meeting. i am joined by supervisor campos and i'm sure supervisor kim is on her way. the committee will also -- i can like to ad acknowledge the staff at -- the committee clerk is steve stamos, and the committee would also like to acknowledge the staff at sfgtv, jez see larson and leo diesis would record all of the meetings and make the transcripts available to the

public online. mr. clerk, do you have any announcements? >> there are no announcements. >> okay. can you please call item number 1. >> item one, roll call, commissioner campos, campos present, commissioner kim, commissioner kim, not present, commissioner yee? >> here. >> we have a quorum. >> item number 1 would be -- is that number 2 for you? >> item 2, approve the minutes of the december 10, 2016 meeting, this is an action item. >> okay. is there any public comment for this item? seeing none, public comment is now closed. can i have a motion? >> so moved. >> okay. >> we'll take a roll call. >> role ka*ul, please. er >> on the approval of the minutes, commissioner campos? >> aye. er >> campos, aye. commissioner kim, kim, absent. commissioner yee?

>> aye. >> yee, aye, the minutes are approved. >> could i have item number 3. >> item 3, vision zero at if state and national level, this is an information item. >> okay, i think tom maguire, the director of the sustainable streets of the san francisco mta will update the committee on vision zero related centiliters at the state and national level. mr. maguire ?frjts thank you, commission necessaries, thanks for the chance to be here to talk about this topic today. i think we all know that san francisco has been a national lead ner the vision zero movement, that was apparent to my colleagues and i this spring as we attended a couple of meetings around the country, we talked to other city nas are on the path to the zero vision commitment. earlier this mo*nlt, sftv, dph and the mayor's staff attended the vision zero

mayor's conference, it brought together leaders from industry, government, ak dmaoem ya and advocacy to talk about effective strategies for implementing and achieving vision zeros in american city, we saw sessions on speed cameras, improve thing ways in which government works with advocates and ways to hit and run nesz data and technology to improve the date to of the street, we attended the first meeting to have vision zero network, leah shan put this together, we brought together 10 cities from around the country, austin, boston, chicago, portland, san francisco, washington dc, and we are beginning to work together in a collaborative way to share best practices, address roadblocks to vision zero and find ways to make vision zero more a national movement, so san francisco continues to lead and we also continue to learn from other cities around the country that have set this ambitious

goal, so that's the vision vao*er row city's conference. i also had the opportunity in february to attend a meeting put on by the national highway traffic administration, the administrator was in san francisco asking leaders from government and public h*eflt to share sfrat jis for improving what he calls behavior change, everything from antismoking campaigns to seat belt campaigns to figure out how the federal government can get engaged in sending strong national message to drivers about how to drive safely and achieve the goal that is we in san francisco call vision vao*er row, that's my report on vision zero at the state and national level. >> i'm just curious, when you get together with these different cities that are implementing vision vao*er row, do you have a sense of how much they spend to get to vision zero? >> you know, i don't have a

spefng apples to apples number that i can compare to what we spent in san francisco, we spent about 9ed .5 million dollars on the first 24 and 24 project that we completed earlier this year. i do know that many cities are at different place ins the vision vao*er row journey, some have made the commitment, some have put together a multiagency group like we have, some have leveraged really strong advocates as well, so i don't have a direct answer, it's something we could be able to research and come back to you. >> especially if yu break it down into not only the engineering enforcement that are hard to break down i guess, but the education piece, public education on the [inaudible] it would be interesting to see how much each place spends probably to be fair, how much did they spend per person, you know,

obviously new york's going to possibly be spending a lot more money. >> okay. >> any other questions? okay. do we take public comment on these things? no questions, so thank you very much, mr. maguire, any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is now closed. mr. clerk, can you call item number 4. >> item 4, next generation of vision zero projects, this is an information item. >> it's you again. >> sorry. okay, so we talked about what's happening at the national level, we also know that right now as we look at the projects we want to do in 2016, we're certainly looking back on a year in 2015 when we did not see a drop in the number of fa fatalities from

14 to 15, so we lost the same number that we did in 2014 like we did in 2015, we're not fast enough with our project delivery, we see the driver behavior is the leading cause, fail tog yield, speeding, red light, nothing's changed there, we know we did get a lot of work done in 2015. we have increased the number of citations, we're focused on the five, we put out engineering treatments, something like 1500 small and large treatments as well as completing more than the 24 and 24 that we made the commitment to back in 2014, so looking ahead at 2016, the last time we met, you asked us to come back with a list of projects across all the vision vao*er row disciplines and have that be something we continue to track through this committee in the years ahead, our focus in 2016 is trying to get a handle on excessive speeding, you'll

see throughout the presentation that we want to focus engineering, education, policy and enforcement efforts on controlling those excessive speeds, those drivers going 10, 15, 20 miles over the speed limit, we're so disproportionately at faults nr the fatalities we see on the street. so, i want to go through the next few slides, these are highlights of the longer list that we distributed as part of the meeting packet. we want to give you a flavor of the engineering enforcement, education and evaluation project that is we have under way in 2016 and 2017. one thing we talked about last time is some of these are projects that are quick turn around time, projects we'll get done in the year 2016-17, other are streetscape improvements, for instance, the ma sonic street gate project that we will break ground on this june, that's not going to get done in 2016, that's a multiyear project, there are throughout this presentation the key

milestones we think we can deliver over the next two years and these projects span every supervisorial district fwh the city and they span everything from bike ped improvements, road diets on streets like turk, things like the radar speed feedback sign, something that's been specifically requested through the participatory budgeting process in district 7, so again, wide range of projects and wide range of neighborhoods and we'll be reaching major milestones and/or completing these projects in 2016, 2017. on the unfortunate side, we are really excited that san francisco police department is going to begin a pilot of east citations with the traffic company, this will streamline the reporting of crash data from the field and really help improve standardize the date da and help us get a handle on crashes and collisions in a much more robust way. we also have an aniseed

campaign, we'll have a presentation on that later in the agenda today. >> excuse me, just a quick question. you explained the key citation, what does that mean. >> key citation iss the ability of the officer to write a citation from hand-held smart phones as opposed to writing the citation, the quality of the data is much better. on the education front, we have a number of targeted campaigns happening this year, we have a specific issue with motorcycle speeding causing crashes, so we secured some funding for -- to launch a motorcycle safety education campaign, funding community based organizations to do some neighborhood based culturally appropriate safety education to seniors, of course the safety town project will be complete, the department of public works is working on it, so a wide range of approaches to education as

well. on the evaluation front, we've always said that vision zero in san francisco is a data driven eft so we're going to continue to invest in the tools that prioritize our investments based on data, we'll be updating the high entry data, that's where 72% of our collisions take place, the health department did that groundbreaking work in 2014 and we're going to update that network to make sure we are always working with the most recent collision data as we engineer vision zero projects, also updating transbase and that helps us link records from places like san francisco general hospital with what we learn from police crash reports and on the policy front, it is our goal to secure sponsorship for the ase enforcement bill, in 2015, we did make some progress on this, we did not

get a sponsor, we drafted legislation, we had 22 letters of support from organizations around the city and around the state, and our goal in 2016 is to move towards introduction of the bill in december, 2016 so we continue to did outreach with a number of interested groups, teamsters, triple a, law enforcement, public health, group that is are specifically interested in privacy issues to really get all the feedback that we need to find sponsors and get that legislation moving in december, 2016 t, so that's an overview of what we are proposing as our vision vao*er row priority project list for 2015-17. thank you. >> supervisor kim? >> thank you, chair yee. thank you, mr. maguire for the presentation. i had two questions. one, you know, i wanted to know your thoughts on what

the strategy was to get an author for the state legislation in 2016 because i know we've now tried for two legislative cycles so we've done the letter writing, we reached out to potential sponsors, wats the thinking of how we'll get it on the docket next year. >> i would like to let my colleague to come up and answer that question. she's spearheading that campaign. >> that is a 60 million dollar question, so we have been working very consistently in moving forward, i think in educating a larger community outside of san francisco on the benefits and the proven practice of automated speed enforcement, that is not simple or a linear path as we've come to learn. i think it's been critical in continuing to educate both our delegation as well as interested other members of the legislature that

advocates have been at our side. i don't think that us alone really would have been successful and so we -- i think the progress that i can really point to is that we have sat down with the opposition and heard exactly what concerns they have -- >> who are they? >> i'm speaking specifically about the teamsters who have had a traditional -- i wouldn't call it an out right opposed position on this specific proposal but really the issues that relate to the use of cameras in general for enforcement, and so we've been sitting down with them, i think a lot of the work that has happened here with unions in general has really helped open that dialogue to one where there's an openness of mind to have a conversation, to listen to why we continue to believe that this is a tool that san francisco needs to have. in addition to that, again, with the advocates at our

side, i think a good deal of influence and pressure has been brought to our own delegation and i think we feel confident that members of our own delegation, i don't want to speak for them at this point, but feel pretty positive about a willingness to introduce a bill and when tom says december of this year, that is the earliest that we could see -- >> [inaudible]. >> i understand that, so who -- >> could you mention who has expressed interest in introducing in december of 2016? >> we've been talking to assemblymember chiu chu and this year to get into the process, we were working closely with the city of san jose and we were really taking their lead at this time and working with members of their delegation and the end of the process by which we needed to have an author, they decided they weren't ready, and so there was not

much time left and i think that our delegation has seen what it means to westbound on camera legislation in sacramento. >> has there been -- do we have coalition members and advocates and other city members to help us do a multiprong approach, so san jose is working on their representative, we're working on assemblyman chu, l.a. is the other major city i assume that might be interested. >> l.a. is not there yet on the camera proposal, they are looking at rebooting on how speed limits are set in los angeles, they're focused on speed, it came to our attention last week that the city of coranato had a unanimous council decision to enforce speed enforcement, the city of sacramento in the last month has adopted vision zero commitment, so for all of us, it's not happening

fast enough, but i think, you know, each path that we take at this, i think as i'm talking here, we had a positive conversation with the california association of police chiefs whose members are also eager to have this tool, so that's a sort of short version of the play by play, and that's where it's at. >> is there kind of a calendar of different things that we plan on doing between now and december? >> yes. >> and then the one thing i remember from attend thing vision zero conference in new york city was how they were able to lower the speed limits in new york city was through intensive outreach by families who have lost someone due to a vehicular collision and they spent a lot of time going up arranging office visits, i mean, this is the time to do it, so between march and november, having families

set up appointment, even if the office isn't free until may, june or october, at least you get those dates in and families are able to share their actual stories and i'm not if there's hearings on these issues where people can come up and speak on public comment. >> so, those are all things that should be part of any work plan that has tactics that are going to be successful, i totally agree with you and we've talked extensively with nicole and her team at walk sf in mobilizing those units, if we had an author in november, we would have started that in november, a lot of behind the scenes stuff that we couldn't do, here we are and we have a commitment with the city's lobbyist to start engaging in those kinds of pelting. they don't have to be hearings, they can be individual meetings with legislators and with members of the administration, so -- >> but i think they still do have hearings that -- with open public comment. i think you need to start that campaign now because it

seems like it's not just enough to get the votes for the bill, you need to do that to get some authors on board. have you sat down with aclu? >> they're next, we know we have entrees into that realm, we are trying to be strategic in how we start taking amendment tos the bill so we don't have five different versions of it out there, but they are very much at the top of the list as well. >> great. my next question is back to mr. maguire, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and that is -- i'm sorry if i might have missed this in the beginning, but i know last year, you know, with we announced that we were able to successfully finish 24 projects -- pie lots, that we had requested the next set of list for the next 24 months, and i know that you have the priority projects like the arguella bike lane and the turk street diet, i'm curious where the next 24 projects are and what that looks like. n the board packet today, we have a list of i believe

it's about 40 projects that we're proposing would be that list that you asked for in december. >> okay. then i guess my question is what is the safe routes to school project exactly? on page 8. >> yes. >> hello, my name is mike, [inaudible] i'm with the engineer with the group. that project is to complete a project that's currently under way if you go out to tenderloin, you'll see some curbs being worked on, we're adding bulbs out and adding work. >> just on turk street? >> i believe it's foe curds on turk, there may be a project on another intersection too, i believe there's at least two intersections on turk street and i would have to confirm the other location. >> that's great, i hear

about a lot of conflict on that corridor or that block as well. and [inaudible] i notice that some of them are to complete conceptual design, some of them is to complete construction, complete construction, and i absolutely want to expedite completing design, i think obviously that's a key piece of it, but i do want to clarify that i think when we talk about what are these expedited projects that we really mean complete construction, so i think it's still good to have that comprehensive list of 40, but it would be great to know that there was 24 projects where we expect to complete construction in the next 24 months. >> okay. >> thank you. >> supervisor campos? >> if we can go back to -- thank you, mr. maguire, for the presentation, great work. on the automated speed enforcement, maybe if we can go back to that issue.

is that like a red light camera type thing, is that sort of how it works? how does it work. er >> we're trying to make a distinction between those because red light cameras have different couldn't verse ris, but the way that the proposal that we have would be to take images of license plates only, this proposal that san francisco has been advancing is one that would be decriminalized in essence, it's not a moving violation so, the images that are recorded are first triggered when the speed violation occurs and the photograph is taken of the license plate. >> i think we have to be careful about these things. i mean, i dent necessarily think there is -- or maybe i'm just -- it's just me, but i think that we have to look at the privacy concerns and

the desperate impact that some of these strategies have on certain communities. so, i don't know, you know, sort of where this falls in the efficacy of enforcement and sort of spectrum of what tactics makes sense, but i think that we need to be careful about this and i don't think it should be a given that everyone on this board will simply say yes, it does make sense bah i don't think we even have that discussion in terms of collectively as a board have, have we voted on automated speed enforcement? >> it's a policy in the adopted vision sao*er rho action strategy. >> we're going to go down this path of pushing for this, i think we need to have more discussion on that because i think there are privacy concerns. >> there are, and i will say this to you, that is absolutely one of the top three issues that comes up

whether the debate happens on automated speed enforcement in general, and the approach that -- and privacy in general, whether it's clipper car data or other forms of personal data, the language that we have taken is lang -- language that is specifically prescribe hated the images could only be used for the purposes for which they are gathered if i can call it in shorthand, i hear what you're saying. >> the problem is you have a thee roy and you have a practice, if i'm an undocumented person drive ining the mission, what is that mean in terms of the chances that without me knowing, a camera could take a picture of my license plate and given to law enforcement and ending up in the wrong hands and even though certain things are not supposed to happen, we've had examples as recently as a few weeks ago of someone who was reporting

a stolen car who ended up in detention, so i think we need to be careful about this stuff. >> noted, thank you. >> so, in looking at the list of projects, i received a letter from i think one of my -- maybe my constituents, either that or he's in district 11. he pointed out that -- we've talked about this before, that there are other corridors that are probably just as dangerous but maybe the stats don't necessarily highlight those things, ocean avenue, general nao*ef va, alameni and mission, and i know for a fact ocean avenue is pretty dangerous with you're trying to cross there, so i'm just curious, even though maybe there weren't any projects listed in the

high priority, if we have projects at all that maybe don't make the 24 or whatever but we're actually working on them, we should probably have sort of an appendix for that so people understand that these are not the only 24 projects that we have if possible. >> that is possible, so we have -- we made a commitment which we met last year in 2015 and which we'll meet again in 2016 to improve 13 miles of [inaudible] network every year for 10 years, if we continue at that pace, we will abate safety improvement, every single block on the [inaudible] network before 24/24, we'd certainly be able to follow up with those locations, it's also important that when we talk in the evaluation section about updating the high injury network, we

certainly want to take advantage of that exercise the find out these streets that maybe just missed the cut or were perhaps crash sites waiting to happen so we're not missing important streets like the ones you mentioned so i'll definitely keep an eye on that. >> thanks, and i like that you have sort of at the last page slide about talking about legislation and maybe that should be a permanent slide because we are trying to do different things locally, and at the state level, i think assemblyman chu and [inaudible], they're jointly putting something together to address the tour bus issues. i'm putting things locally together to maybe improve the situation by regulating tour buses a little bit more, so i think it's a good wantoning to let the committee know

and let others know, these are other actions we're taking that really place well into us trying to get into vision zero. thank you, any other questions? did i ask for public comments on this yet? no? public hens on this item? >> yes. >> on item number 4. >> good afternoon, commissioners, [inaudible] projects should enforce driver's education of good concentration on driving by eliminating distractions of cell phone, eating and talking to passengers while drives. on one way condition of accidents, hot spots should enforce reduction of speed law to secure pedestrian safety. warning signs for precautions must be posted on street corners on speeding traffic area to have pedestrian and is drivers apart of dangerous traffic accidents, preventive measures should be taken to

prevent drinking and drivers, elders should pay extra attention in walking out to street traffic and to [inaudible] with open eyes, thank you. >> okay, any other public comment? >> hello commissioners, i'm the advocacy of the bicycle coalition, i wanted to note, thank you for your questions, commissioner kim, around on speed enforcement, the san francisco bus location is supportive of, but supervisor campos, we recognize there's a lot of details to be worked out that we use this tool effectively and not regressively to hurt any particular community, this is all about making our streets safer in the end. as it relates to the vision zero priority projects, we're really happy to see that engineering continues to be a top priority and it's a crucial piece as part of the three e's of vision sao*er rho, what we would impress

upon to do as much as possible, i think one thing that's a little bit different than the original 24 vision zero projects is a lot of thing that is are on this list is things we already knew about, the original 24 vao*er row project list was able to create urgency at locations where we knew people were getting hit and killed while picking, walking, driving, so being able to look at those locations and get a quick fix in the ground within a certain time period, in mta time, it's pretty fast, so we would encourage the city to be look at these quick fix locations, 13th street eastbound was -- sorry, westbound that was something that was graelt to be put in and get a protected bike lane on where we knew people were getting hit and being killed during biking, so try to continue to do more and use this vision zero priority project list as a way to increase urgency on delivering on these critical safety projects. thanks.

>> okay. come on up. >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is john alex lull, i'm the senior member of the pedestrian safety advisory committee and i emphasize to you the need to have open dialogue with the state of california caltrans as it particularly relates to lum bard, van ness, segments of south van ness and mission street and slo*ep boulevard which a segment of it is also a state road, to have dialogue with caltrans relating release of funds and approval particularly for these high injury corridors. that's a strong component for why i come up to you and my second one to you, norman yee, is to mention the city engaged at the particular request of supervisor mark farrell that the city carry out what was agreed upon two

years ago, to redesign several blocks of bay street because the collision of two youths at the intersection of bay and buchanan, the city responded very quickly to do that, it unfortunately took a collision at that intersection for the city sfmta to raoelz realize what had been agreed up, there were nuances that remained in that plan with other city agencies on how to coordinate that. the last point is i recall mayor ga*fn's executive directive on pedestrian safety 1003 released in september, 2010 where he specifically asked for city agencies to work together to reduce pedestrian collisions in this city, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> good afternoon, commissioners, i'm kathy

delucca, the policy and program manager with walk san francisco. first, commissioner kim, i wanted to say that walk san francisco has been working to form a family for safe street group ins the city and we did get some family members to call state legislators about automated speed enforcement so so we try today start that process and we'll continue working on that so i wanted you to know that, and -- but what i really want to comment is how upset we are at all of the pedestrians that have been killed so fixer some of the commissioners here attended the memorial that we held for tu phan in february, a memorial for mr. sun chow law, he was killed at broadway and powell in 2011, too many people are dying on our streets with we need your leadership, you've been vision zero leaders and i'm going call for you to keep leading the charge.

we need your leadership, we know you don't approve projects but you have a lot of influence on projects, you fund safety projects, you influence staff and mta board member and is right now we need your leadership more than ever. we have projects that are getting weakened and we have supervisors that aren't standing up for safety in these projects that aren't putting safety first, so i urge you the keep being the vision zero leaders you are and make sure that safety never gets compromised out of a project the city's doing. thank you. >> supervisor yee, may i ask a question? >> sure. >> can i ask a question? >> of me? >> yeah. >> first of all, thank you, i know that walk sf is working to get the families, and i know the cause is so important for them to see the causes face to face, what has motivated me even though i support these effort iss meeting the family and friends because it is heart breaking, but second, i did

want to ask, you mentioned there were projects that you felt were getting watered down, i'm curious what some of the priority project that is walk sf that you would like us to focus our attention and support on. i know the one from the district i represent but i'm not as familiar with the citywide potashes. i don't want to call people out, but this is the priority projects. >> there are several but one that feels urgent is the el tereval, it is a a high injury corridor, between 2009 and 14, 36 people were hit on the corridor and half of those who were hit were getting on and off the train and that's because the train doesn't have many boarding island to get off, they step off and get on to traffic, they were hit at stops that didn't have boarding islands, it's clear they're keeping people safe, city staff did a great job in creating a project that would keep

people safe getting off the train, original project had boarding islands at every stop, great, great safety feature, just a basic safety feature that a transit system should provide. unfortunately, the plan has been revised based on push-back from the community, so there won't be boarding islands right now as proposed at every single stop, five of the stops will have a pilot project instead, they have paint in a travel lane that says watch out, and i don't think paint is going to keep people safe. we heard from a young man who was almost hit getting off the train last week, a blind gentleman in his 20's, he stepped off the train into moving traffic and he got off the train and there was a car there stopped at the train but the car then started and his cane literally was broken off in the wheel of this car, so we need these islands to keep people safe. we're lucky no one's been

killed yet on this corridor, it's just a matter of time. we've been pushing hardworking with staff and working with our members and working with everyone we can to make sure this project has robust safety features because the boarding islands shouldn't be up for xomz compromise, it's a basic safety feature, to say we shouldn't have a place for people to step into safety doesn't seem like we're putting people first. so, that's the big one that's on my mind right now. >> i read about that, so i think this was in conflict with many of the small businesses were worried about losing parking spots. sxfrjts the great thing about the plan the city came up with is unlike a lot of times, parking does just go away in the compromise for safety and that's i think appropriate, but in this case, the city has been able to find parking spots for everyone that's moved off of teraval, they're replacing them with other locations so

there's no loss of parking, it's just a relocation, it's a good situation for everybody involved because everybody's getting to keep something, but it's not being seen that way unfortunately. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is [inaudible] i'm an organizer at the san francisco bicycle coalition, i wanted to echo our advocacy director's helots and expand on our member's desire to see these vision vao*er row priority projects implemented on schedule and wherever possible expedited, to highlight a few of these projects and also to piggy back a little bit on the previous comments, we really want these projects to address the needs of the communities where they're being implemented. i bring the example of the polk street skaip project, a project we felt did not go

far enough in addressing the needs of the community despite strong community support for a lot of these issues, similarly we also see projects delayed time and time again such as the pa trer row streetscape project which was approved in 2013 and is not scheduled to be completed until nearly 2018, that is a project that is desperately needed by the community in front of san francisco's public hospital, we need to reflect people in san francisco. >> any other public comments? seeing none, public comment is now closed. i have a question, two of them when you started mentioning about the el teraval, i'm wondering if we're in the

same situation where some of the situations along the [inaudible] juda line, does anybody know. because there's quite a few places where they don't have islands there too. >> so i can give you what -- and it will be an incomplete answer, many of the stops have the boarding islands, particularly those close to the inner sun set, on the old teraval, the traffic move tos the right of the train, that one's different and there's an opportunity where we can bulb out the sidewalk close enough to the track to form kind of a boarding land configuration, so some of the safety issues of passengers boarding the trains on the street are present there, but the street's designed a little differently, so it's

not as acute and there's not certainly the crash history we have on teraval. >> i'm more familiar with where does it start. in the lower number avenues along irving, there aren't any, i'm curious, can we find out some data, whether anybody's getting hit or anything? >> yes, we can definitely follow up on that. >> okay, thank you very much. supervisor kim, are you -- seeing no other further question, can we have a motion -- >> it's an information item. >> no motion needed, thank you very much. mr. clerk, can i have the next item. >> we're going the call item 6, update on the sfmta's safe driver training programs, this is an information item. >> so, we're going to call

item 6 first before item 5 because there was a request to do that and there's some people in the audience that needs to leave, so come on up. >> thank you very much, don nox wuf with the sfmta, a team of us are here to provide an overview of our agency's efforts to ensure that are employee and is the people who do work for our agency are provided with ongoing training updated every year for driving safely around vulnerable road users. today i'm joined by three other colleagues who can discuss a number of the initiatives and policies related to non-revenue vehicles, those vehicles that are city vehicles, the vehicles that are not bringing revenue to the agency, taxis and our muni buses and trains.

so, let's see. there we go. alright. so, initially, as i'm sure you are aware, funded by prop k, we have developed a non-revenue passenger vehicle training video, this is something that we put together as we were developing the large vehicle safety video. we realized that while we were doing the filming, a lot of the messaging we were providing to people who drive truck and is large vehicles in san francisco is the same for folks who drive taxis, who drive cars, we hear from drivers a lot that the changing environment in san francisco streets, the green paint, the new protected like lanes are confusing to people, and so the team that worked on developing those videos went out and they filmed every scene three times, once with a truck, once with a taxi and once with a passenger vehicle and in january, we finalized

that vehicle, we have put it up on you tube and we will be integrating that into sfmta's biannual defensive driving training that is required for anybody who uses an agency car, department car, and we are also working at the same time as a part of that same prop k funneled program with the department of environment who does a lot of employee outreach throughout the city to put together in the next three months an encouragement program to get employees throughout the city whether or not they use city cars and city vehicles to watch the video. we really are trying to act on one of the communication goal that is we have identified before to use the tens of thousands of city employees that we have as best practice citizens, etc., so this video joins the large

vehicle video which is available in english and translated online in chinese and spanish and the taxi vehicle, we are currently working on a version of this video that is specific to paratransit drivers who are large vehicle drivers that have many of the same passenger loading and unloading issues that taxis are and it's been requested by our paratransit programs, so we're working with them to develop that program we hope sometime this sum tore have that available and the paratransit operators are excite and had have already agreed to provide that. we are working in discussions with the mayor's office on disability looking at opportunities for developing some specific training materials about driving safely around seniors and people with disabilities. at this time, i would like to invite jerrold williams who is the manager of safety and talk about our defensive

driving program. >> good afternoon, commissioners, a little about the driver safety program, it's a computer based program, 45 minutes, we currently had about 1500 employees has completed it. it's for all sfmta non-revenue drivers, and it covers basic city driving skills. the goal is for employees to take this training, as john said, every two years, which will incorporate the urban driving safety video. we also have a remedial training program which is a classroom program which is for those drivers that supervises the necessary training which from exhibiting unsafe acts or

practices, or points, each of the police or in the pool program and the pool program allows an agency to have an overview of those employees that may have had traffic points taken or added to their license so we give them remedial training before they could get behind the wheel of a muni non-revenue vehicle, and they also have the program, the telematics program that will give the agency the overview to see if employees are speeding, it's hard breaking those bad habits which we can also identify those employees and get them in there for remedial training. thank you. >> john, i'm sorry, maybe i was somehow dozing off or

something, so these are for the non-buses? >> yes, correct. er >> these are for employees like myself who may need to use an sfmta car to a place that's not easily reached. >> thank you. we have two more speakers, i was going to ask chair yee if you would like to take questions about the video and the non-revenue while mr. williams and i are up here or if you would like to hear from the taxis and muni and ask questions for the entire presentation? >> i had a quick question about this one because there are so many other city vehicles that are in this category. >> yes. >> and i'm just curious, you may not know the answer, but i'm just curious for the other fleets or other departments that have sudan, i guess, do they have similar training, do you know, or do they use your training? >> my understanding is the city administrator's office

oversees that aspect of training, my understanding is that they are looking to copy, you know, respectfully, they use a of the training we are provide, they are putting defensive driver training for all the other city users currently, but i believe it's not -- i can get a better answer, i believe it's not currently offered but they are hoping to put in place. the airport has developed theirs, they're using the same click safety program we are using and i did receive an e-mail from the city administrator's office for copies of what we're using so they can use that to help develop their programs, they are working hard to do that, they are still in the development stage. >> good to know that, thank you. >> so, our next presenter, kate toran who's the director of taxis and [inaudible] services, to ensure our taxi drivers are driving safely intel. >>

( watching video ). >> what's the take away, slow down, even at 25 miles per hour, it takes a vehicle 85 feet to stop, that's almost 7 car lengths, slowing down makes collisions less severe. when a person is hit by a passenger vehicle going 20 miles per hour, the chance of death is 5%. if the same vehicle is going

40 miles per hour, that chance of death increases to 85%. slowing down doesn't cost much time, driving belined a person on a bike for a block takes about 9 extra second, stepping at a yellow light takes 30 extra seconds but hitting someone can cost you hours, days, weeks or your job, not to mention a life, so when you feel rushed, take a deep breath and take your time. ( video completed ). >> thank you. >> okay, thank you for taking your time. supervisor campos? >> thank you, so what is the name of the department again, it's taxis and what else, other services? >> accessible services. >> what does that mean? >> so, that includes our paratransit program, our muni discount i.d. program and

the muni accessibility, so anything related to accessibility of the fixed route system. >> so, quick question, maybe there's somebody else who will address this but you, but where is the sort of uber, lift, where do they fit into this? >> well, they don't fit into the mta at this point, they are regulated by the public utilities commission, the california public utilities commission, so their regulations are set by the state and enforced by the cpuc. >> that's just a question i have, can we really achieve the goals of vision zero if we're doing everything we can on the taxicab side and yet nothing is being done with uber and lift, or at least not to the level that we would expect. >> yes, good point and i would agree and say we'd love to embrace the tnc drivers as part of this vision zero

effort and provide the same or similar type of training and requirements for licensing and permitting. >> just as a quick follow-up, director tran is correct, there's nothing we can force them to do but we are in conversation with both uber and lift about creating some form of safety programming that they will guarantee will reach all of their drivers in return for them being able to kind of talk a little bit more about being a part of san francisco's vision zero program. it will be a voluntary program and the conversations are very initial, but one of our ultimate goals is to ensure that some short videos but also the passenger video and the taxi video are shown to all their drivers so they're receiving the same level of training. and now if there are no further questions about taxis, i would like to invite ken anderson who's the

manager of training and instruction to give you an overbacker overview on how we train all of our muni drivers. >> good afternoon, my name's ken anderson,backer i'm the operate torx trainer manager, i want to talk about new operator training and some of the elements of that training initially. it's about a 9 week program and sometimes that stretches a little longer depending on how we overlay the template of the training program over the actual calendar days, but what we do is we align ourselves with the way the california dmv requires folks to be trained in order to get a driver's license, we're part of the employee testing program which is pursuant to a federal guideline for third party testing so here at muni, we are the ones that do the testing, the training and we sign off so that they can get their commercial

driver's license so ne don't have to test once they go down to the dmv. with respect to that, the first thing they require is that they learn how to inspect the vehicle to see where [inaudible] make sure the brakes are working properly, headlights, all of the safety related apparatus, we spend about a week on that because there are a number of items on these vehicles that have to be inspected from the very front all the way to the engine as well as the lubricants and things of that nature to make sure it's running properly. once they learn that and tested on that and successful on that, they go on to skills training, that is consistent with what is required by the dmv and also the fair of mode regulations for commercial motor vehicle operators, they have to learn to back in it, shift lanes to it, maneuver around various items to ensure the back end of the vehicle clears, and then beyond that, they come in

and they do classroom training and then we start our road training so there's a number of classroom days where they're learning all about our system in terms of fares, in terms of americans with disability act issues, all of these things they're learning in classroom and they're learning our routing system so they're out on the road, essentially three people on a bus with an instructor on a daily basis learning the system and so forth. and that's essentially what happens with our brand new operators, that's folks that are coming off the street who have never worked here before who's learning for the first time how to operate here. we do have new rail operators but they're not the same as a brand new bus operate torx those operators are folks who have been working for muni for a period of time, perhaps four years or know the, are already a transit operator but they're switching over to a new mode of transportation, they gain an additional 55

days of training to operate rail vehicle, they're learning basic information about how the rail system works, the overhead cabin area and the specifics for the particular vehicle they're going to be operate, whether it's our historic vehicles or lrv's and also our cable car system. so, that's the new operator aspect of it but we also have the in-service aspect of it, meaning that they're going to be getting a certain amount of training each and every year, so that depends also on state requirements as well, so the state mandates at a minimum 8 hours of training and most of the time classroom training and some behind the wheel training for all operators regardless of whether it is a rubber carp vehicle or bus or a rail

vehicle, and so that information or that training is specified in the california education code, and that would be 40085 of that which tells us exactly what they have to be trained on. then we also go over incident and collision prevention and we base that on national safety counsel standards whereas we teach a class to be operators with respect to what's preventable, how they can avoid certain incident and is those things cover not just the maneuvering of the vehicle but also backing incidents that occur on board the vehicles with passengers and so forth. we offer refresher training for rail operators, so in addition to the vtt or the in-service training i spoke of earlier, rail operators have a specific refresher requirement pursuant to the cpuc general orders, and that refresher training is based on that they learned initially which is the way the general order is written, so they are done -- they do

this every two years and they also get a compliance check each year to ensure that they are indeed following those rules and regulations in the things they've learned to do. we offer what we call infrastructure and equipment training, so with us having so many operators, they also have a choice to be able to move from division to division, or across modes, so from motor coach to trolley coach and then to any of our rail vehicles including cable cars, with that comes new training, so a person is once operating a bus now oncebacker want tos operate a trolley coach, they go through about 17, 18 additional days of training so they now can attend with the overhead system, some of those folks go on from rubber tire vehicles to the rear wheel training, then they move to historical vehicle and is they're different in

nature in terms of how they operate. they have to learn all associated apparatus of that, there's tremendous information that goes along with that, our cable car system is different than anything we have, than any other agency has so there's quite a bit to learn about the gripping mechanism of the cable car, the rope itself, so quite a bit and it's a rail vehicle so switches and things and signals are also a part of that. and we do what we call return to work, that's a person who's been off work for over a period of time who has essentially not practiced things or perhaps has forgotten, so in order to return them back o to* what we term the platform, we bring them back, go through this training all over again, depending on how long they've been out, they go back through the entire training program all over again, and then finally we have what's called special services and obviously a cable car would be one of those things, but we also institute a program called the negligent

operator training program or essentially what this program is, is we take operators who have been driving for quite some time or operating quite some time, their skill set has diminished, their decision making has diminished, we try to catch that in the form of near missing, we bring them in and customize a program that's specific to whatever ails them at that time to try to correct those behaviors as well. we also do other training, it depends on the circumstance, sometimes there are events that happen in the city that require specific maneuvering or to keep the service going, so we will go out, take a look at that in order to help an operator maneuver around those things, in a nutshell, that's the program that our operators go through. >> for the cable car training, how many hours do they get trained on ringing that bell?

>> [laughter]. >> some of those guys, they must get 100 hour training or something, they're really good. >> i think they do that on their own, but it is fair with respect to signaling, that is communicating from the conductor to the -- >> i know, is it one, two or three dings, right. >> yes. >> but i'm just curious, do you have different training for a bus driver and then you have the muni rail drivers, what -- do -- once one is trained in one thing, can they go on the other or vice vice-versa, do they stick to one thing or what? >> no, they tend to come and they spend their time, it's a seniority based program, so rail is kind of the sexy side of the house so to speak and everyone want tos go there,

there's lots of folks who want to go there but they have to build that seniority before they can go to that division. >> i don't know if that happens or not, but this thing when one movers over to the rail side, does it for five years and then all of a sudden, you know, he or she wants to do actual work on overtime and overtime is on the bus side, do they get retrained at all, or can they just go over to the bus side while being retrained? >> well, that's a special circumstance, we do have -- i mean, all the operators obviously on rail would be considered dual mode because they were bus operators first, but there are some that do like to move back and forth, they do get refresher training when it's necessary, most of the time when they land over there, they stay over there and force them back because what we don't have is the training breaks down, we can't call another

train to pick them up, we have to get a bus and that's the person that's going to operate that bus, when we have special projects going on where they can't run the rail and they have to do bus substitution, normally those people will be brought in training for a refresher on motor coach all over again. >> my last question is, there are other vehicles that muni has, maybe this is a general question, i'm thinking for instance cable cars, there's always those trucks that come by and help them change the griper thing, that's what i remember, i remember those trucks and i assume there's tow trucks and so forth. >> yes. >> are there specific training for those particular drivers? >> they do receive training. i don't particularly provide that training other than for their licensing, so many of

them come on and they don't have a commercial license, they'll come through our training program, go through that in order to get their commercial license and they'll return to their department where they get training specifically on that vehicle. >> so, does that belong to muni, those -- >> it does, but that's housed under maintenance. >> okay, so maybe the question is what kind of specific -- and, again, this might not be one for you to answer, but if anybody can answer this, for the maintenance truck drivers, what kind of training do they get? >> well, they would get the same as what i've described, it's without all of the stuff that operators have to learn in terms of the routes, the fares and things like that, they'll go through the initial training of pretrip inspection, the skills course setting, the road training and things like that in order to be able to qualify for

the license, and then anything that they would get beyond that which is specifics to the job that would be handled in-house by that group, i hope i'm answering your question. e this ear qualified to operate a commercial motor vehicle once we finish with them, and once they get to their particular division, they'll get additional training on a specific piece of equipment and they handle that. >> i guess there was legislation that i believe supervisor kim introduced a while ago that asked specifically for the big vehicle training, is that true, supervisor kim, or commissioner kim, and is it relevant to these type of vehicles? >> sorry, john [inaudible], mta is committed to making sure that everybody drive as large vehicle, whether it's

a bus or a maintenance vehicle or whatever else views the large vehicle training video. we've worked with ken, you saw the list of regulatory training requirements, so we're working to get that into the muni training but as these drivers go through the training that we do and [inaudible] as well. >> thank you, any other questions? >> just a quick question. do you know how much the city -- i don't know if you have numbers for the last five years or so, pays in terms of claims involving drivers? >> i don't know that off the top of my head, that's a number we could look for and get back to you on. >> thank you, and if you could give us not only any court case where we've had to pay but also any torte claim, you know, i mean, before it

gets to court, and then if there's any other settlement. thank you. >> i'll get you everything we can. >> thank you very much. seeing no other questions, are there any -- are we finished? >> no, i was remiss in my talking about the video, i just did want to thank both the board and staff for their -- i mentioned prop k, i didn't thank you for your support on that because you guys are key partners i think in putting together this presentation, you know, there was a comment earlier about agencies working together but i think it also shows the many different departments, we're a large agency, sfmta and we work together in many ways and you've been models for the city. >> that's refreshing to hear. and it's okay, folks, if you want to remind me that i should be calling my colleagues commissioners,

not supervisors here. let's see, public comment? come on up. >> hi again, commissioners, i'm cat thy delucca with walk san francisco, and i'm here today to urge you to consider adopting a policy that would require all city drivers to get training, required safety training on a regular basis, on an annual basis every single year. the tragedy that happened to tu phan, she was hit by a city employee driving a city vehicle, that driver -- i think another part of the training should also include letting city drivers know what they're exempt from or not exempt from because the driver who hit and killed tu phan was making a left turn where the left turns are restricted but there are exempting to these turn and is he may thought he was

exempt as a city driver, so it's imperative that the city lets its employees know what they are exempt from and not exempt from. the employees deserve that. this gentleman is going the spend the rest of his life knowing what his actions resulted in, so we think the best way to go about this is to have a citywide policy that says all citywide drivers would get this training, a robust safety training on a regular basis and i applaud all of the effort that is the different departments are doing now, but it seems like we need one consistent program. thank you. >> thank you for mentioning that because prior to the meeting just talking about the agenda, i was asking pretty similar questions about who's presenting and who's not and i'm wondering if there's any universal sort of policy that we have in the city that would make it

mandatory for everybody to -- pretty similar if not the same training so i am a person moving in that direction, you i want to give people an opportunity, there's going to be -- i want to ask for a ko*n wans of this item later because i realize not everyone's here to present, so i want to give them a chance and then move on to policy if necessary, so thank you for bringing that up. >> yeah, thank you for your leadership. >> hello, commissioners, i i want to mention there was a fatality two months in san francisco of somebody who was hit over a year ago, he was a member of the cable car crew, at his funeral service at grace cathedral was tom maguire and ed ris k*in, myself and his family members because ray died and what came of this and it's

unfortunate, it takes a fatality, i have heard and maybe he can confirm this, it is mandatory for all cable car crew to wear fluorescent vests on with vertical white stripes on them, that's a great decision, it's unfortunate it took a fatality, two were hit but ray passed away this year. thank you. >> any other public comments? seeing none, public comment is now closed. any other comments from my colleagues? if none, could i have a motion to continue this item to the call of the chair? >> motion to continue to the call of the chair? >> okay, with no objection, motion passes, thank you. let's go back to item number 5 i think. >> item 5, update on speeding education -- >> hold on, why are you

waging up here? >> to give item number 5. >> oh, sorry. okay. >> item 5, an update on speeding education campaign, this is an information item. >> good afternoon, so my name is ar y*el and i'm a planning analyst with the sfmta, i'm going the present on item 5, the speeding education campaign, this is a campaign we're working on with the sf police department and the department of public health. we're focusing on speed, as we know, excessive speeding is really especial to fatalities, you have seen this image in front of you, we know the imperative of people getting to drive the speed limb, people need to slow down and it will eliminate the deaths, so we have three goals for this

effort, the first is to reduce speeding on san francisco streets, the second is for there to be a reduction in injuries and fatalities of people who walk and bike caused by vehicles who drive too fast, this is funded by an active transportation grant, a key focus is on speeding and people who bike and walk, and to increase bicycling and walking in san francisco is the third goal, the idea that they will create this safer environment that we should see people more willing to bike and walk on our streets, we're ants paying there will be other outcomes as a result of this effort, we're seeing [inaudible] and an increase commitment for speed compliance. sorry. and also social norms that are more supportive of slow speeds. so, how are we going to do this, how are we going to

really reduce speeds, we're going to do this by changing the culture that's around speeding websinger have a cull xhur that says speed ising acceptable, it's okay, it's an appropriate way to get to point a to point b, that's not acceptable and it's not the culture we want to have in san francisco, that's what we're trying to do is change the culture, so today i'm going to briefly go through the four components of the campaign and these are enhanced enforcement, education and media, grass roots organize sagging and evaluation, the core of this campaign is enforcement and media and this is because we know that enforcement education work best when paired, they strengthen each other, enforcement provides the general deterrence that there's consequence, education gets at those behaviors and norms that get people to speed in the first place, so much of that decision to speed is based on those attitudes and how they

think about expedia which is why media and education is so important to this effort. is first aspect of the campaign that i'll talk about is the enhanced enforcement and a piece of the enhanced enforcement is high visibility enforcement, that's essentially enforcement that is visible, frequent and proactive and it is achieved by having lots of police officers at the same time on a predictable basis and also through publicity elements, whether that's a press conference, billboards or radio ads and the visibility things like a sobriety check point, so the visibility sign, so for this campaign, we're going to have 132 extra hours of week of enforcement, 60 of these hours are going to be this high advise nlt enforcement, we're going to have 12 police officers doing enforcement encore doors, i'll go over those corridors in just a minute. we'll be iteming this enforcement with edge kaix, with media, with press

conferences to get that strong message out that speeding is not acceptable in san francisco. in addition, we're also going to have 72 hours of week of enhanced enforcement citywide and using this additional enforcement to really further spread the message and get out that message that speeding is not acceptable, that we do not approve that in san francisco. these are the corridors we collect selected for the high visibility enforcement effort, we used data to select these corridors and worked with our steering committee, the walk sf, [inaudible] to determine which corridors are prioritized, these are corridor that is tha* are on the vision zero high injury radar, corridors where we've seen high rates of speeding, we want to get the message out, we selected corridors with high traffic volumes so people can see what is happening and see and see and hear these message and is finally we selected

corridors which lidar enforcement, i want to emphasize that the enforcement that's happening on these corridors, it's really about making that big impact, the education corridors are going to go out strong and say speeding can't happen if san francisco, you need to slow down and save lives, that's the focus, it's not revenue raising, it's to get out that message that we can't have speeding and those extra 72 hours will have the additional enforcement that will be citywide will amplify and spread those messages to all different part of the city, through this campaign sh we're having this heightened message and spreading that every wherever. we'll be combining the enforcement component with education and media and we're going to be having billboards and radio ads and the like throughout the city, we've hired mig as our campaign consultant, we need to do

research and understand the behaviors that residents have towards speeding, what motivates people to speed, is it about a pleasure people associate with speed, is it lifestyle, is it getting somewhere fast, is it because people don't think speed ising a big deal, we need to understand what motivates people to speed, so we can change that turn around speeding, we're going to be focus groups and survey, best practices research on speed related campaigns and just in generating we're going to be looking at what makes a positive -- productive, successful road safety campaign, we're going to use the learning from this effort to devise a content of our aniseed messages, so from may through august, we're going to be developing our media and outreach strategies, in august, we're be launching back to school enforcement, you can think of it sz a mini version of this larger

campaign, we'll be following this up in september where we're going to be launching our major media component, we'll start working through the department of public health with community groups to be doing targeted on the ground culturally appropriate background around speeding and in october, we'll be doing the citywide component, we'll be doing education first, it's about sustaining our culture and we want that to be strong about that. er >> i have a question, you're -- and -- you're giving so much information in this short time that i'm trying to absorb this. in regards to people's behavior and why they do it and part of it, i can speculate maybe and there's more traffic in people's behavior and it becomes worse. there's times of the year i think where there might be

-- the traffic is a little bit lighter than others, like spring break. >> sure. >> and winter break or whatever, i'm wondering if one would look at evaluating people's reasons for speeding or not speeding, are they speeding more -- maybe it's not me evaluating why they're doing it, but extrapolating -- during those periods where you have fewer cars on the road, are we seeing fewer tickets for speeding? >> yeah. >> i'm just curious. >> i don't know whether it's something we can figure out, that's something we can look at in our research, again, what motivates people to speed, is the traffic slow, are you trying to keep up with the cars that are around you, trying to get at those behaviors that cause people to speed. in our evaluation, we can look at stuff like that, traffic volume and is the impact on traffic values on speeding behavior, that's

something we can consider. >> okay. so, for more information about this, where were we? so, we'll be laufrnling again in october with our citywide enforcement and we'll have 52 weeks of the education and the enforcement. so, again, this evaluation component, we're going to be doing a really comprehensive rigorous evaluation of the campaign, we know if we're successful in reaching our goals, if we reached a large population of san francisco residents with our message, if those residents change their perception, started thinking differently about speeding and if that change in perception led to a change in behavior, are we seeing slower speeds on our street sos this is what dph will be leading through their evaluation effort. and finally although this campaign doesn't have any specific edgebacker engineering or policy aspects to it, vision vao*er row is about being systematic, thinking comprehensively and

in a coordinated fashion, and how does this education effort lay were the enforcement, how the different efforts we're doing are all complementing and supporting each other through this effort. i'm really in the end kind of building up support for safer streets, this is a spectrum of prevention a tool that you might have seen here and the change on the complex safety issue, we really have to make changes on the micro and macro level to sustain change, we're going to be using this campaign to get public support for safe streets, this is an enforcement education campaign with 132 hours of week of extra speed safety enforcement with an enhanced media component. >> are you done? >> yeah. >> any questions? seeing none, thank you for your presentation, hopefully we'll get some good results out of this. let's see, any public comments on this item?

>> we can't finish without me coming up one more time, i'm kathy delauding ka from walk san francisco, good afternoon again, commissioners. i'm really excited the city is addressing speed, it's the top collision factor in the city and walk sf is on the steering committee, so we thank ar y*el and mta staff they're doing on 2 campaign, i wanted to mention here, i thought it would be a good opportunity to mention some concerns we have about vision zero enforcement and equity, it's something that sort of we're thinking about more and more as we continue our vision vao*er row work is are we being equitable in our enforcement efforts as part of vision sao*er rho and specifically we're a bit concerned about sending police into communities of color and low-income communities in the name of vision vao*er row, so in this program, one of the corridors that is legated is in the

bayview, and you know, that community is still dealing with the after math of the shooting of mario woods, so the question is, is it a good idea to send police into that community, is it going to aggravate a situation this's already tense, is it going to benefit the community members there, so i just wanted to raise this issue as something we're thinking about and we're bringing it to the steering committee to talk about but i think it's really important to think about that with equity. are the fines for speeding as part of this campaign going to disproportionately negatively impact low-income communities, so we don't have this in our vision zero policy, we don't say explicitly that we're going the make sure that our enforcement is equitable, but i think we can still take actions that do that, so maybe instead of having enforcement in some of these community, we do education, maybe we have speed feedback signs instead of officers on the ground, soit's just something we're thinking

about and talking about and i just wanted to raise it here as an issue that should be addressed. thank you. >> thank you, any other public comments? seeing none, public comment is now closed. okay, where are we? item number 7? >> item 7, introduction of new items, this is an information item. >> okay. there's no new items, let's move on, item number 8. >> item 8, general public comment. >> heaven and earth, man kind and material things gather as methodology for [inaudible] and part race of beneficial usages, one responds to timely [inaudible] of thousand changes, fir taking on intelligent course of destiny, develop mental progress that enforces peace and wellness for [inaudible] in fine usages, one would not lead to any disorder but

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