threat end up dead the police should stop and think first for instance, alex what would have happened the officers stayed in their cars and used they're loud speakers to communicate at the drove up the hill and jumped out of the cars and when he didn't show them his hands at that point that he intended to kill him why that okay oh, they felt threatened i read an article in the laments of a new policy considered this policy emphasize deesclation of violent situations police officers need to be mind fell and consider other option like keeping a distance to allow themselves time to find other ways to control the situation this is

especially try in con fronting people december ordinary police need to use their heads we need our police professional to think and not shoot first i believe by training new officers and retraining to santa fe circulate they'll see the others as people and police will be pleased to please us. >> thank you (clapping.) >> . >> good evening and welcome. >> hi my name is ann i'm a thirty year residents of san francisco like the lady my kids were born and raised here and i own a house here so i've been paying for sfpd and the police chief salary for quite a while and the police has changed over 40 years i saw this is a positive institution and

again paying attention about racial profiling i've watched the per speaker unless otherwise established by the presiding officer of the meeting. news and the text message that were racist and studied the police especially killing black people around the country i was shocked of the abusive behavior in a traffic stop i failed to report it; however, murder of mario woods and into the justice excuse me for mario woods co-relation i'm here to voice my voice of no confidence i'm not alone health professionals are seeing violation is increasing and black lives have raising racist issues a systemic problem for the most part my apologize to trees talk about a bad system

it encourages bad actors you need to commissioner tang policy it is something we're watching and getting up to speed of the shooting of mario woods and lopez are justified the rules are wrong and next to enforce policies run the statute of limitations washes no more but public trust must be accountability we have to build in more real communicate oversight of the police department not a small group of people appointed by powerful other people and as far as murder charges we need a new chief. >> ma'am, thank you, ma'am (clapping.) >> next speaker >> good evening and welcome. >> my name is dearound i want to say off the start this is about policy it is not a local policy that is a policy that

exists all over the country i ask you to show me one mrovgs that is not killing brown and black and people that basically are doing a bait-and-switch look this is not about tasers they've been bringing up the desire for tasers for many, many years and now while they're caught the in san francisco has the veneer of a progressive city and underneath a cesspool of homophobia texting is there any reason brown and black have shot down without a restraint not about taylor's they can torture you with a tasers and shoot you without tasers and shoot beanbags at moody's they said that and shoot him anyway, i can take any 6 of you out of the

crowd and we could with handle that situation that mario woods far better than the police did (clapping.) are the situation with lopez or any other other people so i'm saying look this is right for people are fighting we make this need to make that a big issue inspiring many more people to say we'll not live in a country like this that don't this to their >> thank you. next speaker, please (clapping.) >> good evening and welcome. >> >> hi, i'm dwight from the occupy mario woods i'm unprepared i would think that sense alex seeing you've not done anything you would think after that murder 59 shots that you would video been bent over bartsdz for

mario woods maybe in mental distress had a bad day or psychiatrist problems bend over backyards i have colleges colleagues p they want to kill they are jumping out of cars and shooting without hesitation related to gentrification or whatever okay. so anyway, i'm saying the 3 points of deriving indict the cops in an independent investigation thank you (clapping.) >> next speaker. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> hi there are 3 things i want to talk about i my talk fast first is ingo consistent in things i see and hear and read one from the sf poa on use of

force starts with san francisco police department highest priority the safety the residents and visitors to san francisco and the men and women who protect them officers should demonstrate this in their daily subcontractors i was at alex trial officer shift show 23 shots into alex talking about they were approaching the hill they came across a person who just seemed to be walking like a normal person as opposed to to alex they said well that he passed the person who was walking like a normal person now to me fingertip a police officers and concerned by my community sir,

you need to get out of the park there maybe someone with a gun okay, second i'm enraged that has happened to stanislaus it has similar story line the story line is similar ouch in all the statements what actually happened oh, the person alex had super human powers still standing off shot 23 times and holding the tasers out and turning alex into a monster and doing the same thing to go ramsey that filmed the eric garnering death is now they're getting. >> thank you, ma'am. >> thank you we have to be fair to everyone

thank you very much. >> i need to comp call up the next speaker thank you for understanding there were two bells. >> good evening and welcome. >> >> how you doing ladies and gentlemen, i'm john, i gave a copy of this pamphlet ray hart for san francisco open government or regarding the tazer in the officers carry tasers there are certain things they need to do first of all, have the supervisors sign off the tasers should come out whether the cameras come out you'll be held audible the officers doesn't activate the cameras or the stun guns an automatic inclination defibrillation e combination at the same time change the officers uniforms policy of the and nothing but demonstrations

you sitting down on a in a palm abandonment ones that activates this is why the fire department has protective gear if you bring if a tasers you have to change the uniforms and when it comes to mario woods there is some things that people didn't see and they haven't even address is it there was an officer on the right side of mario woods when they opened fire for him having a gun you didn't think of the safety of that officer on the right side of him shot him many times what about the safety that have that officer you can use friendly fire for that. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker >> . >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening chief suhr and

commissioners my name is arrest lien drummerer one of the proud members of the first class of women officers i served for 26 years and retired for 15 years i've lived the city for 68 years in 1976 and again in 1978 i did a deposition the u.s. district court court to the way i was treated in the department and the wrong i saw while in the department so imagine if i was treated wrong what did you think happens to the people that were scorn to serve so it is nothing new what is different anything you do now is captured on video recorded or read about the press so the puck is new seeing first hand what is happening on the streets of

south america and san francisco anyone that reads the newspapers or listens to the news realized this department has saviors problems and in need of change rather the newest text gate or the officer going to prison for criminal acts so it is saddened my heart to hear how the san francisco has been spent numerous hours attacking anyone that criticized this department there are numerous announcement and statement they take away under the issues and becomes a distraction do they feel this helps the cause or bridges the gallops between the community they she ever or serve my question what are you going to side to make that place a better

place for the citizens or the officers to protect and serve the majority of the homeless. >> thank you, ma'am thank you. >> inc. thank you, thank you thanks for coming back (clapping.) >> next speaker. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> thank you. good evening i am virginia marshall long time educated two chief suhr commissioners on the roster i'm here in support of a wonderful police one of the few african-american women i feel i can trust one of the few african-american women out the community 24/7 on behalf of the naacp and on behalf of the educators in san francisco that are here in support of yolanda

(clapping) last week as a moment's notice i said i have can you stop and talk to them within a moment's notice we carry the students to the richmond station and she has a phenomenal workshop and captain came out and talked to them we like to see our officers as a mother as a parent your police officers sometimes are not kind to people like me particularly our sons i say to my colleagues they'll not let your son have a pass i want you to know you have people the community that trust sergeant yolanda williams she's out the christmas drive and someone that lost a child and we step out of

the classroom unfortunately, the i've gone to many funerals and had to bury our sons there are gang recommended issues or at the hands of the police chief suhr and some of i know fellow educators i want you to know that the african-american community in san francisco trusts buildings and support sergeant yolanda williams she's credential on the other hand, credible i hope you listen to her advice we need to make the community better thank you very much. >> thank you (clapping.) >> next speaker. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> we have two videos they're both short but probably run about 3 minutes there's two of us. >> i'm looking any city

attorney she's doing this so. >> each one can play one. >> cannot combine the time. >> pause that maybe. >> you'll do it when i get to two minutes sorry and turn it up and combine. >> the point of the video so should there are alternatives to lethal. >> thanks for your

cooperation. >> both of these men have machetes cops are moving in

no lethal weapons. (clapping.) >> that's 16 seconds the next speaker. >> this is a prime example of san francisco not using common sense period nothing and this low iq crap of

hiring police officers with low intelligence i know damn well the rest of us have common sense and it's like the city doesn't what the hell is wrong here see how simple that was but the they know you could have taken a belly club and hit the guy the knife and mario woods would still be alive what upsets me that he first bullet that mario woods is the head and we have proof of that right out of the phone frame by frame now i answer those questions. (clapping.) >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening i rushed to

get here i'm actually on chevy african-american advisory committee and i am very happy to be able to 1i9d with him along with other leaders the community i don't know what the young lady said about yolanda williams she's a very good officers and want to acknowledge the officers the bay area e bayview that are designated for coastline we have sergeant hall and sergeant tracey and officers thompson used to have derrick but is not part of the situation they were very good officers there are a few other officers and so forth i am speaking as far as my son told me a long time ago it is common sense. >> he said common sense is not that common we all make mistakes

and therefore the thing the chief is trying to correct those and to retrain the officers and want to say i don't know from the tasers suggestions has come up but since i won't be here i'm not saying tasers even though that didn't solve the problem and it's education and training with the officers it is the lessor of two evils if you get shot you'll die 98 percent of the time if you get hit with a tasers 99 percent of time you'll not die the lesser of the two overviews not just with the chief but the captains in our communities that's how you bring the young people to the table and led them as a for what their ideas are as well thank you,

thank you. >> next speaker. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> i know we've been sgournld over and over not to say the t word no tasers it is unacceptable that the department would push another contract for the 5 time in san francisco the last time the people won and people came here and said that is unacceptable that we have the pretext to justify the use of tasers the way it is used mario woods would be alive if they have tasers not see from the officers use a tasers 200 and 50

volts they should get the electric chair he won't be alive no tasers you'll hear us again for the fifth time it is unacceptable we spend our energy and time to speak against this justice for mario woods (clapping.) >> next speaker. >> good evening. i'm adrian i want to address the issue of tasers in a way this commission and chief suhr is look at it you're looking at that as a lesser of use of force but the matter is still the use of force over nine hundred people are died from tasers and even people around the county not san francisco county

but i applaud people you know if you are taking a backseat to examine this and thank you. i hope the rest of the commission will do that thank you. >> thank you (clapping.) >> next speaker. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening i'm barbara i'm very saddened by what is the most recent events with police officer shooting those people i work for the department the battalion was standard procedure how come it got lost i worked with a civilian secretary with the san francisco police department baton was normal procedure that's my question and also, if they with the police

academy they can't shoot hold, and shoot again why did it go boom, boom, boom, boom when you have someone with two dozen bullets and the gentleman at the park shot shoot the latino i blame the dog-walker with the german shepherd if this dog-walker hadn't have been around he might have not been shot thank you. good evening. >> commissioners yesterday, i was with a chaplain this is their land if they be go back 5 hundred years not any of the speaker

that today deem they have authority 18 trustees signed between the united states government and the native-american tribes and not been glorified some people think because their here they can do as they please for over 40 years i've been on the front line and i know a lot about law enforcement because i worked for the united states park police law enforcement agency some of you may know about dr. espanola jackson she was as i am a representative of persons can can't represent and as i said earlier i had a talk a with an

to one talk with a chairperson reuben, junius & rose mar camera and she didn't like what is happening with san francisco i know people in law enforcement and i have been watching of commissioners we need to rise up and do the right thing and there are people in law enforcement that think that they have authority and they don't understand the difference between freedom and license that's freedom and there's license the bills are freedom stop it and stop harry's sergeant yolanda williams stop it. >> future comment on items not on the agenda tonight.

>> good evening and welcome. >> hi first ami i'd like to remind people are of something we need to be reminded those texts they were racist and home forgive i think described that or in that way a voice of the true nature they were advocating killing blacks remember they said that was the one of the cops said that was okay to shoot them down if their animals that are out of control so those texts are not simply insensitivity those indicate the murderous intentions of san francisco police to blacks, latinos and whites more whites are killed by police just a higher proportion of

blacks and latino why where so many shots fired at mario woods when one shot could have killed him those shots were not fired at mario they were fired at blacks in san francisco who were driven out and they were fired against the who working-class of all races to try to intimate us remember in the 60s and 70's what happened from the police shot and murdered somebody we have had detroit where a plain of troopers that were going to vietnam were turned back to detroit in order to try to keep

that rebellion down certainly we don't care the massive incarceration. >> thank you thank you, sir (clapping) general public comment items not on the agenda. >> next speaker. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> >> so i'm from the bayview i grew up here and i work in tech which is pretty rare to come to things like this and support the justice for mario woods and alex coalition which is what i am and growing up the bayview i grew up of fear of different people color i would wouldn't be antagonistic tisk but professed o pretends they were invisible and guided any fear only recently have i read articles how to treat brown

and black in their community like they're part of your community i didn't think of and i have a feeling i had a pretty good experience but police officers deal with different folks that is understandable yet another traumatic experience they'll lash out over fear but placing a gun with a tasers didn't replace that fear with the support of your community and that's why i'm worried about with regard to putting tasers into the police force it is distracting in my mind which is a general fear by the police department which is again understandable day to day anyone that might seem different from them that's the rest of the public you should treat the public like the community especially brown and black not

the enemy of fear (clapping.) thank you, sir any more general public comment on items not on the agenda ms. brown. >> good evening and welcome. >> hello good evening my name is paulette brown i'm here concerning any son i'm in a movement for justice for my son aubrey abrakasa i'd like to use the overhead and again, today is his birthday. >> oh, i'm so sorry. >> for the last couple of days i've not been able to make it to meetings i went up to the grave site today i did not think i would go about when i started filling out papers they asked me when will

his burial on one of the signatures i broke down i didn't think i would august 14, 2006, of this year is 10 year this is it's tenth birthday since his death i continue to bring those names of the people that murdered my son this is the names down on my sons folder my private investigator gave thomas hannibal and moffett and jason thompson and marcus caterer one of them is deceased i'm still looking for justice so far my son i bring my pictures this is all i have left of my son i want the people to see how i feel we want the same uproar

about radios and black think black crime the same support from the community people that are coming out we want the same support as mothers want the same support and not only fight for my son those fabricates and mothers of unsolved homicides thank you. >> thank you ms. brown anyone here that has information into the murder of aubrey abrakasa an anonymous tip line (415) 575-4444 thank you i'm sorry ms. brown. >> next speaker. >> i'm cesarean from the justice for mario woods coalition today was a hot day i think that will be a long hot summer and it

has been 4 months since mario woods was executed by the sfpd and nothing has been changed other than a lot of hot air being expelled i urge this body to take a leadership role sorrowful commissioner dejesus and sxhapg i thank you for your about the tasers and why they were not the answer to the challenges we are facing right now really it is just a matter of times before another horrific killing occurs we need to come together and rehumanize each other i don't hate you chief suhr i don't hate sfpd's i have to tell you i'm a white marching and i'm scared of sfpd

and i think of my brothers and sisters and how eventual vulnerable they feel this has to stop can we all meet each and have a barbecue together go to a baseball game do something to get to know each other as human beings so we stop hating on each other and when something happens instead of rushing to just we treat them as we would all brothers and sisters and treat them as our son or daughter that's the kind of leadership we're not getting it from our board of supervisors you have the oversight of this department and i urge you to take that responsibility very seriously and bring this community heal

this community. >> thank you (clapping.) okay. any further general public comment? if anyone can line up sir, your fine but anything any other general public comment line up there >> good evening and welcome. >> >> david i'd like to reiterate my friend karen's speaking out to the commissioners who wrote the victor thank you very much for doing that that showed encourage and as far as the (clapping.) as far as the poa is concerned and the push for tasers which is really unseemly you know from the pen e 10 percent of the police chief suhr wants to have st. mary's they'll be the hands of the worst police officers and 100 percent of the officers that get tasers which

is what the poa wants the poa has a tremendous amount of money to pay for oftentimes it is definitely the wrong thing to do and address the issue of the text that came out and really i feel unseemly battle between the chef and the district attorney over, you know who released it a very much he said she said makes the san francisco community look foolish the eyes of the rest of the country and i commend jeff adachi for written his letter asking for a civil rights i think the same thing needs to happen happen with the doj go forward along with the cops

review the second wave of racist texts is to me prove positive we have a very substantial systemic proficient it is not an issue of a few racist white cops and with respect put out by asian officers. >> thank you, sir (clapping.) >> next speaker. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> >> good evening commissioner and chief suhr and community before i begin i would speak tonight my heart and mind with the families of jose killed by tasers on march 7 in southern california and nationally guarantor who was killed with

tasers as part of the lethal combines combine that killed him in hayward california i want to begin by commending some of the community groups and community members who have worked including some members of the commission that worked, diligently trying to rise and craft a healthier use of force policy but i want to underscore the gravity of this task many people are upset again the racist text message but a body count associated i want to condemn completely the police officers association for trying to take act out accountability rock from the new policy (clapping.) because accountability is the most necessary piece of any

reform and we want to clarify i want to clarify that while some may view these revised use of force policies as a compromised with those of us who dissents to police murder you've vtdz the situation we get characterized by your officers as vital and sometimes unfortunately killed by the officers but this the people coming to i is an exhibit of our peace this is an exhibit of our willingness to come to you for and try to come to a peaceful conclusion to this civil. >> thank you, sir thank you, mr. miller. >> thank you, mr. miller.

>> thank you (clapping.) >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening. i'm roger scott i would like to convey a message the 3457b from the communities i've been living in san francisco since 1972 the police department has to simply stop killing young men especially young men of color without justification that's a very sensible and rational demand that must happen i think the last thing the san francisco police department needs is tasers i think the police officer should have shields i think they should have bulletproof vests i don't think they should have a chief like many sursay they did a good job

of killing men of color i'm not a enemy of police i'm a teacher and one of the best students the city is an intelligent man and i hope i don't reveal his identity but he takes care of of his broth a heroin addict i have people and court reporters at guantanamo month this department needs a culture of accountability they should be subjected to the punishment that i or any civilians should be subjected to due process didn't

include killing people when you're not face with a serious treat too much police officers comment murder and are exaggerated when they said i was in fear of my life that's wrong and must stop. >> thank you, mr. scott (clapping.) any further public comment general public comment? items not on the agenda. >> good evening and welcome. >> my name is stephen and i bernie sanders say he's in favor of all punishment by police that kill for all the incidents there are filmed hundreds not filmed and it is kind of difficult to do something about, about but

when their filmed and obvious what happens it is incredibly difficult to get action so, you know, it takes time we get frustrated i'm with the oscar committee we - i'm with the justice for the committee but the oscar grand committee after a year of speaking out at the city council meeting we finally convinced the majority of the city council to have independent investigations of mr. perez shot down in front of a liquor store and have investigations like bernie sanders to take a year to speak out at the city council i want to encourage everyone who is - are working hard on behalf

of mario woods continue the efforts sometimes those things it takes time and thank you (clapping.) >> thank you, sir any furthers public comment. >> good evening. i'm in this case i've fwraubd i'm outraged that you have not come to a deactive conclusion the san francisco police department should never have tasers the evidence is the same they're a lethal weapon of torture that hadn't changed what most disturbing you've let this string out for to long you need to come to a decisive rulings this department never gets tasers as long as you the commissioners are in charge your

trying to wear us down to make us go away we're not going warrior away just do that and come to a ruling on this and don't keep holding meetings you think are going to produce a different result from the people of san francisco for what now a decade? thank you, sir >> next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> good evening and welcome. >> hi, i'm keep is short i throughout the tasers defense and didn't say i thought that was my tasers right after he shot officer grantee didn't say it on the platform he said it after he got a lawyer now just a

reflex. >> any further general public comment general public comment is closed. sergeant, next item. >> item two reports and announcements chief announcements to allow the conceiving for reports on the recent activities operation genus for people in africa and the united kingdom home conference in london for law enforcement officials recent arrests of sfpd officers and undercover from the investigation and in regards to collaborative review status and presentation of quarterly statistic resolution save street for all adopted may 7, 2014. >> thank you, sergeant good evening chief. >> i realize we say a crowded agenda and some of the kids that came back from africa and jason

johnson that were on the trip i ask them to come up and make a presentation on probation genesis (clapping.) operation genesis. >> good to see your cleaned up from saturday. >> good evening officer johnson and welcome. >> good evening so i don't know what angle you want me to go for those of you who don't know operation genesis is a program by the police department that connects skids to their culture in africa we obligate back from a successful trip and the experience is phenomenal we started we took 8 kids and this year telephone

(clapping.) question actually had to create and waiting list with some many kids that applied as far as the trip that was great i'll let the kids talk about their experience. >> thank you, officer johnson. >> come on up. >> hi, i'm - go on in a was a life-changing experience i'm grateful for the police department for taking us to be on the trip and we really got to learn about where we come from and where we came first page yeah, we left hand about our roots and how people live and i'm really appreciative for of - for my dad because i'm sorry. i'm kind of nervous. >> you're doing great.

>> i'm grateful for any dad, i know when i have i have it all and out there they don't have much their smiling and joyful i have no reason to be sad or mad or ungrateful so - >> thank you destiny. >> hi, i'm reasoning on this trip it made me thankful for what i have my mom provides for me i learned a lot on this trip a lot of things we don't learn in school and the difference from our community and theirs it was so much more peaceful out there. >> and . >> mike hale you'll recognize him he was one the interims this summer who gave us a number of the recommendations we're taking including the speaker that said we should have

barbecues so this recommendations was in august of last year and we have been experiencing and having kids help us create the barbecues so great minds think a lot. >> going to africa was a magical experience i was hesitant about certain things but i started to open my mind and open to doing some of the things they did with an thing that stuck with me was the slave bath they were doing before they were brought to the slave castles and we had to walk the grounds like they which it is barefoot i was hesitant i thought oh, my feet oh, my god i did it a felt good and got to

the slaves bath it was a big river it felt good to be able to walk somewhere in my ancestors walked i was it stuck with me i experienced this and can tell my friends and families and basics was probably the best day i was out there this was when i take into consideration everyone from the slave to the people they taught us how to distance and know was monopoly was keeping your eyes on the ball at each other all that hit three and four i complain over certain things mom i don't want i to drive the car dang i'm so america in his and going with the things like any normal out here in san francisco i'm definitely budget committee

back some of the things from africa and trying to do that now the process you you know i'm working towards it and being there with that whole process was really, really good, i want to appreciate chief suhr and officer johnson for the fact they actually care about our community usually you know chief suhr i want to appreciate you officer jason johnson gave his with an idea and you made it possible for us to go to africa and see where we came from you don't see from an officer of chief and have it experience i'll definitely show you i appreciate you what i will do the future references and to lieutenant danger field i'll show you that i'm thankful by how i act from now and then and

lastly close out and say being on the trip was one of the greatest trips i'll remember especially because i learned many things that i'll implement starting with any unite and my family's are touching thank you (clapping.) thank you ma fwel i'm destiny's brother this was a life-saving existence wanted to go back next one thing that that stuck out the kids in gone in a have to they have to of a for elementary school one of the guys was 20

years old in the eight grade if you don't have an education you basically like get money basically i don't know. i - i'm sorry. i'm nervous. >> i take any education serious but they're dedicated on a regular college i want to plan to be more dedicated towards my studies without an education he learn you can't basically do anything with your lives going to go on in a was a - you get an idea of what you have and also thank you to chief suhr and officer johnson for inviting us for the trip thank you guys. >> (clapping.)

thank you, mr. danger fields. >> they have a lot of schools and invited one middle school as a group they talked the things that cost $1,300 to support they'll give us coffee and drink and we'll support that school $1,300 is not a lot they've not done tick-tack-toe it was life-saving but they got a lot and give back to themselves by the supporting their school that is reactmarkable but to jay jay mean when you say it is officer johnson they know who he is this

is all him his idea he had a college buddy in lieber he went out and figured the thing and actually they were going to take advantage of him he take care of that when he took the kids and year 3 an annual for years and years and years to come if not forever and keeps on getting buy out and you guys are chaperones as a companion danger field here so seems to enjoy the trip as much as the kids jay jay god bless you for doing that (clapping.) >> dr. joe. >> hi you guys i saw you at the boys and girls

club you know it's a great thing i'm preparing you, you're on television coming home what was it sunday's sunday night and at the club last night talking and come back on the radio show millions of people can hear you about this trip but i just want to say a couple of things for those of you who don't know they don't a lot of preparation and really prepared one time i went to my office and there you were preparing for the trip they did fundraising and have to speak and do everything else and what a great thing going to africa and going to college here in fall it is a

wonderful thing and you know none of this once again would wouldn't have been possible over johnson was a protein to type not only are you guys - i've got to say just a beacon of light in everything that going on around here you guys we celebrate every achievement because of negativity if you can is a real quick how many kids have you taken to go on in a. >> 27 and i want i to know folkse h meets with them monthly. >> every other most r month

ass. >> can say the person that went last year she still grows from that trip and you don't have to speak. >> oh, (laughter) now a big smile i see that. >> the latest to see you getting all the results and powerfully things being so our lives got some skype scholarship. >> how the kids apply for next year although write a essay and after that a ranging system their parents have been heavily

involved with if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer thems and 8 week mandated you have to be at unless is an emergency and participate to go on this trip. >> so jay jay you'll know what i'm going to say it is going to be good so heelers the thing i think where why you are so important to me right now i see personally you remind me that one person that cares and know what they're trying to do the world could do something mind blowing all things you had to ocher come to make that possible and keep with that with everything going on mike hale you were here last summer and seen public comment where

emotions are high a way to come together don't have to agree but see each other and have an experience that changes us so you know people will say to us no one program is the answer i agree but this program is an example to us and dr. joe said that best you guys with lit if inside a light that is shining the world needs to who much is given if you feel lucky who much is given much it expected i hope you'll go everywhere and take 9 mike and do what you did together thanks (clapping.) >> we're not letting you off the hook yet.

>> we want to thank officer johnson and lieutenant danger field you guys are necessary and looking at the kids looking at those young men and women off to college that are influenced by great police officers he ask the community we think of the san francisco police department think of what you saw here tonight and not not just the one idiot text merge that's not the san francisco police department this is the san francisco police department i thank you. >> it's about the kids guys that's correct jay jay good night you guys are awful we changed information with scotland yard and the

metropolitan police with regards to deesclation, technology, fraud their heavily involved in getting a new frieblg in crime and ids and things like that and property crime is up in san francisco and from my last piece an update without going on into it the text message that were redeveloped from last year this commission is aware of the charges have been filed here since the fall of last year from the investigation that started in early august into assault of on officer that ended up result in his arrest and charging by the district attorney's office on march 23 with with two

misdemeanors of multiplication use of confidential dmv information without going into the data at the least the brady notifications were made from our office on brady that let them know the testimony that could be involved once on october 16th and january 2016 and all the information was provided to the da and has been in that office since january as they reached their charging decision on march 23. >> you can't make sudden outbursts railroad i want to ask deputy chief chaplain to make a review of the status in his bureau organization and chief

can i ask i'm getting a lot of questions about people the ranker back and forth between you and the da i saw the letter to acid and talk about the ownerships is it getting better i'm hearing from folks the disappointing to see the administration of justice happening this way. >> i apologize at least for my part in the before and after i was surprised by the letter from the district attorney i felt that was important to clarify the record because i think the public is rightfully concerned about things like criminal conduct an the part of an officer's and text message i'm still not- i can't say the district attorney himself knew only the people below us were making the innovations again, i

apologize a back and forth it is critical our officers work together i think they do and do well but i apologize for the unseeminglyness of mraefrt we meet a meeting schedule for this month and hopefully get to this. >> chief chaplain welcome. >> good evening director and chief i'll be brief we have a big agenda i'll start with the cops dof's they were completed workplace the communities and taken the recommendations and forwarded them to the cops office one of the things we want to smoolth out the ride along when they ride along with the officers in a week or two we'll

have the smooth - they can show up and get a ride along and attending more line-ups this is to the captains to facilitated the viewing of the line-ups so see the marching order of the officers and link of the doj so those who are interested in following go to our website and link to the department of justice next the goals and oufshz this is currently to the dof's the team will be here to meet with the department anticipating on the draft goals and objectives they know about the issues with the community not having listening sessions i

don't know they'll do telephone surveys when we return, we'll have a better understanding of more listening session the communities upset they didn't have sessions the community once that is done a work plan development begins and that's basically them sitting down and determining what we need to do based on the listening and feedback from the communities and after that we'll finalize the recommendations and a memoranda of agreement is drafted that is douftd by the sfpd that is way down the road they'll hit the ground running and that's when the program ramps up the staffing for the professional standards and principle policing bureau we've got our captain jack hearst i'm

sorry standing to my left we now have lieutenant jennifer and looking to add two sergeants as well as a civilian to staff out the in any bureau and i want to go over the changes hearing some of the things behind me a lot of people don't realize those definition are the works and pushed out to the rank and file the ranges and file are douptd this we have suggestions coming in the bureau all the time hallway the police department can do better deescalation one of the caps has a memo to track you how many times we deescalate situation especially the ones that turn into an unlawful situation that is being reviewed i mean it is a

lot of great suggestions but some of the changes before mentioned the collaborative reform the procedure are developed by he did academies we're replicating the oakland model that teaches grace and trust and respect think january 12, 2016, we have members that attended the course by the police department the department has said some of the same members should be trained we plan on sending the rest to the course as it is available it is a popular course and had to have space while it is widely popular so spots in the bay area the members will be responsible for the training i'm sorry begin to train the entire department on purely justice which according to the deputy

chief is the portion of the department trained by the end of the year with the priority as far as the training their outburst they're making contacts and the department of justice to offer training to the department so the review of so they are bringing training to san francisco and captain will facilitate that so they'll be a procedural justice course taught by us but one brought in by the doj and have made it easier to narrative the website to find out facts and part of the presidents open initiated we've got the scorn demographics on the website by ethnicity and the officer-involved shooting we've placed that with the officers

what happened and that enconsumers 2009 to 2015 some of the units from the cit training we've completed 3 cit classes for 2016 and schedule 7 to 10 more for the year and with that, wife managed a number of cit classes 2, 3, 4 the first 3 months the training coordinator sending dispatched personnel as well as in their participation is virtually they're the front line one of the things that came out in cleveland, ohio the dispatcher had a lot of information didn't pass it on to the officers this training will fix we'll have the defense for somewhere based training to make sure cit didn't contradict any use of force policy or training

techniques moving down to the things in place some of them may seem that is all by huge like intuition e transitioning we had an officer-involved shooting because of a person took officers firearm out of his holster we transitioned to a better holster the results are tremendous the passenger seat of a firearm is a reportable use of force i say that i was on a radio talk show down in la that linked to baltimore and cleveland, ohio the cleveland said based on san francisco policy of making a firearm a reportable use of force their adopting it is more evidence that you know all eyes on san

francisco police department reengineering the use of force there's a new bio unanimous use of force training the pistol certification the police officers the targets are not tushdz at the same time this requires the officers to see before firing at the threat it will be instead of in a laifshgd to used for treat and threat training done by jungle and early july and completion the qualifications will be modified that officers require no more than 2 shots from each phase of fire someone spoke you don't why not fire a couple of shots that is possible when the situation permits we're training the officers to do fire house fire two shots and see from the

threat is over. >> as of february 2016 members are required to take 4 hours of classroom scenario practical training at the police officer range and take classroom for the other half talks about deesclation and time and distance supported by the doj the classroom address responding to people in crisis and force options and sanctity of life and passenger seat firearms and time and distance and slowing down incidents when possible and a last thing i'll cover our recruiting effort we're going to african-american colleges and advertised in black magazines and hiring at the campuses i

won't go over the nape feel colleges that's the update questions commissioners. >> yes. commissioner dejesus. >> i have questions for the chief. >> oh, okay. you can do that now. >> stay up here. >> i want to complete your report. >> we'll go over the reports we have more for my report. >> right i wanted to finish and go back to the brady notification. >> oh, okay. so nothing on this particular reports i'm sorry, i misunderstood. >> commissioner vice president turman. >> sorry. >> thank you question for the deputy chief when there the procedural justice training begin do we know exactly the hours the police department. >> we're working on securing a space wear looking for the venue we have a lot of classes the

academy is packed we're looking for a space the doj shot us dates they're looking at don't go it i believe it is august. >> okay. so. >> ours will be coordinated with the won their offering it will be one training by both departments; correct? >> correct with the ultimate goal our people attending the training to bring this to san francisco so we don't have to cross the bridge to oakland to get the training. >> at the end of the year how many members will meet that program. >> the majority will be through the end of year i don't have those figures. >> dr. marshall. >> you know deputy chief chaplain it is nice to hear as question move forward and make as much process and quibble as

we can before you are use of force it would be nice a city last week cleveland has picked up on you know some of the things we're doing already and for me because of the work i do all the time i'm talking to love folks around the country and the police commission their ask me what you are doing what are you doing they can about the terrible imagination i know the judge in cleveland you were on talking about our progress report chief you know it is really nice to hear anything we do folks can help the situation and our goal to craft policies that will be the best in the nation it is nice to hear early on it is

wonderful to hear. >> so chief chaplain i'm a fan of the training for everyone that is watching and following this you talked about trusted and neutrality and voice and respect this procedural justice train is into xhaevengz at yale and tracey that studied why does someone taunt the cops the raven shows factors that more voluntarily to comply if they're treated with respect they feel like the person they're talking to a neutral people are speeding so a basis and it is explained and the person's is more likely to trust trust the office regardless if you arresting me or not i'm more likely to come

flipper treated with respect and dignity that is a goal of the police officers but in this train what i've seen officers recognize that is tough but many ways ankle that captain hart and academy but looking at it is in a different way that gives the officers in an interaction to have tools many have anyway but pressures for for those of you who don't know that might not a chance to make the day less stressfully and someone feels you were doing your job this training and watching and paying attention we heard from a lot of people in public comment and i'm hearing around san francisco an idea nothing that happening not everybody watches us on wednesday nights on channel 26 i

hope we process and chief love to hear our ideas with the progress that is made the reportable use of force when the poa training i think that is important to let's the public i think enough people there is an american peop associated press it's to make sure that people that are watching across the country and can evaluate they are innovate left with the ideas - there's a sheet a 21st century policing and we do have the sheet done just going through the process 40 phase you'll have the sheet see what guess done we agree

with and what we disagree needs to be done and as far as this sxhufrz that is huge i'll say 24 we heard behind me about transparency and transparency is something as simple when you pull someone over tell them why that's part of procedure of justice that's a huge piece so many of the conflicts start with the one go basic thing why and explain it to people it goes to the that point of firearm explaining after things are should hopefully everyone satisfaction why you pointed a firearm and necessary to do so frankly, if you can't explain you shouldn't have done it. >> thank you, chief chaplain

and folks that are following the website chief referring to the 6 page memo sent to the may you'll update us on the process. >> i need to introduce our new captain jack and need to introduce to the commission he will be joining me for presentations. >> great well, captain jack hart nice to see you no out boosters everyone gets two minutes go ahead captain i'm jack hart honored to present with the. >> ma'am, if you have outbursts i'll have to ask to you leave but you don't get to make outbursts not fair to the speaker i'm going to ask you to comply and in public comment you'll get our time. >> captain good evening. >> i want to tell you about

the principle policing bureau and what we stand for and what we hope to accomplish moving forward i it out i'll be able to tell you with a story author barry swat's in a book called practical wisdom the confidence if our institutions are federal and local we can't trust our teachers and banks have been passing rules and incentives to we have the detailed rules like no child left behind and banker and justices mandatory justice laws 83 we feel barry swakts felt we needed something else a concept called practical wisdom this is something aristotle talked about we're going to be teaching to the police officers and we're going go to tell you

what that is about what aristotle said we want people to x - we're going to be teaching the moral skill and moral will our police officers need the moral skill and brapz pa is required and the moral will to make sure they have the courage to follow through in order to explain i'll tell you about john who is here and ref from you a commission certifies of merit pause the actions he takes on a daily basis annual be typical bravery that law enforcement is known for but the cabinet courage everyday and traeshg at this time, members of the public may address the commission on matters not on today's calendar. talks about about the goodwill cop and effective and rightful policing policing cannot be

measured in things we're doing lawfully are effectively but whether the community building they feel replaced and esteemed and trust in what pillows is doing and office john is the good cop in 2013 a plain clothes officers and recognized by you by the police achieve a article talking about the work he did in esteeming and respectfully gang members they were masterful 2, 3, 4 doing his job in law enforcement he spoke and give them gave them a voice and asked them what they needed and followed through by getting them jobs and by getting a lot of people out of that life today officer casket is so i understand with working with the homeless and alerted to a blue cross between decision and 16th street an ongoing problem with the neighborhood and people e folks were fed up with the gang

armed with the resource sheet he did something different owe listened to them and say people that choose choose to live on the streets he the spaca i'm happy to help them get on their way he brought community members together and met with an of the residents as a cit trained member and a blue courage think principle officer kathy decirculated the situation he listened to him and through the establishment of trust kathy listened officer kathy with the life coach instead of showing him how to be run off we police

officers with tents city he listened to the long term goals and officer kathy is the personal coach we have nothing but officer kathy gives him me hope keeps me out of the abyss we forgotten and the hopeless the dignity and hope officer casket said thanks sfpd forgive me the courage to do something so to the highest principles of policing fewer community building and problem solving and compassion eave deemed over the past few years officer john skaeth your award this honor this day wednesday, april 6, 2016, (clapping.) not so fast (laughter)

we need to hear from you even briefing. >> i wanted to say soon commissioners and hopefully soon under chief chaplain and you and the cops office and everyone else that will not be speaking special what officer kathy does is something we'll be. >> thank you, captain i think this is what i do but please. i want to thank lieutenant melena in the gang commission he served he tell me after one stop john never o not all contacts have to be a police contract contact we started getting gang members jobs and lieutenant hart's class tests lieutenant of

blue courage and i thank the chief paul medina and people don't realize part of the mission statement to believe the sanctity of life and part of rules of conduct you know we're sponsored to show contraction people think of policing and arrest people you can't let a person sits anlsz that sidewalk and die slowing each of the elements but have 9 time to engage with them the gentleman talking about perry is hooked up with a small paper and going to be giving his satire from the streets and have a voice so far the other homeless people. >> keep up the good work officer. >> okay. >> off i'll add that next week we're sending an officer to new

york there is 50 police units getting together to arrive and tactics and deesclation and proportionally that didn't exist but when it first came out here for us we've now been doing that training we're one of the departments going back to talk about the training and borrow from the other 409 departments so we can change our training for the best practices training prior to the beginning of 2016 it doesn't exist. >> our. >> sorry commissioner wong has a question and i sat that florida i'm optimistic about this request the leadership of chief chaplain and executive officer and all the folks that

commended the piece that schoz and i wrote was a level of optimism that the department is doing something right for the public we can't say don't do this this not enough but point in the right direction the department is doing radical connecting stuff we need to push for the positive things i think this imply courage and the increasing of the cit and the changes those are the good things the department is doing i'll ask folks you're saying don't do this but a community push for the right direction all the stuff the department is not getting credit for . >> well said commissioner next item please. >> per commission resolution

14 dash. >> go ahead chief we're not at public comment all resolution 14 plus save streets commander maddox is here. >> well commander colleagues you recall was it december of 2013 when we have we have the 78 or 7 or 8 naltdz fatalities. >> a timely girl was killed. >> a young girl killed own december 31st walking in the tenderloin but 7 people that died on the street at that time, a growing recognition more cars and beeblgz and vision zero we have a hearing at city hall the activism clear an engineering and education components but an enforcement component but

enforcing the traffic law and increase the citations this is one of the areas we keep an eye on while everything else is happening and walk sf from the bicycle coalition this is one of the areas we can proliferates fatalities through effective enforcement one of the most important thing i know we have a robust agenda commander thank you for being here we require a quarterly report on enforcement. >> once we're getting ready with the power point presentation we'll be presenting the last two quarter for scheduling reasons we didn't get on the calendar i have the last 6 months of data. >> going forward thanks commissioner president loftus we've scheduled a may meeting to

shear this information with that, jack - >> can we bring up the power point presentation great. >> a little bit of technical difficulties it should fill the whole screen again in 2014 we agreed again under transparency public school we will provide the data in our role as part of our role in achieving vision zero so under safe streets for all the campaign we committed to increasing our enforcement and this page is relatively self-explanatory you are goals - our citywide goals under vision zero get to zero traffic fatalities in 2024 in 2015 is he

saw the same numbers fortunately but we have seen a huge increase in different modes of traveling around the city a lot more booikz and people walking and taking public transportation so san francisco police department has really increased their enforcement our role is education and we committed to focusing on the 5 primary factors that we're responsible for people crashing into one another and to repeat speed, running red lights, stop signs, failing to yield to pedestrians and failing to yes, we do on turns moving o moving on the vision zero partners is everyone the board of supervisors, the mayor the department of public works, mta, the district i wort with

mta and the department of health and we all are attempting to chief one uniform set of data to provide to people that is a sprinkler for our department since 2014 to get building or account for all the data in the end of 2013 we began a representative method of collecting data and 2014 went to a third party to create collision data and did initiative things and accurate data as again as question move into 2016 the data blackberry more and more accurate so slide 3 - okay. he talked about the 5 collision factors and i lists them already and what we're doing we do tail enforcement through traffic and citywide enforcement but each police district this is a monthly traffic enforcement they

focus on the top clinician factors and intersections as well apparently also, we focus on the enforcement based on the data getting better and better we're not anti at there randomly we focus on the high injury network collision corridors and the inspectors where the most collisions are occurring from july to december as you can see 10 enrollments around excuse me - let me back up our target population are the young children and the elderly slide later on that listed the amble demographics of who is unfortunately killed the collisions so again, we focused on 10 leverages and 6 middle schools and high schools a few of the names are we everett low

and lincoln and golden gate park glen park and alice we focused citywide and many of the schools participated in the crossing guard program as well. >> talk about the according fwaurd. >> good memory thank you for your your continues service. >> moving on optimistically pedestrian yield operations every began and 10 district are focusing on the pedestrian obviously cars do more damage than the other modes of transportation you'll see a slide latent finger print showing the breakdown of collisions we're strengthening our relationship we don't have a

good relationship as with the chp as of day the most important arenas we're take into account duis and speed with the partnering of dbi we'll receive a grants that has purchased lighter guns to get more officers shooting radar and more funding to focus on speeding vehicles. >> is everyone listening they'll will have more radar operations from the last 6 months 9 dui saturation practicals with 200 plus arrests they tell us the traffic citywide 5 hundred and 16 dui arrests the locations were selected due to the number of alcohol or dein

the parts this is a conceives not randomly out there choosing we're take into account specific locations again move on down pedestrian and bicycle the district stations along with the traffic companies focusing on citywide we did that we issued telephone hiss hundreds relate to pedestrians and bicycle twelve hundred plus certification to cars and 18 to pedestrians and again remember our role not just enforcement but education that's the next session talks about so many things and quite a range of what we did we pass outs literature from the officer of traffic safety regarding the black history month and pedestrian safety we're going to schools and senior centers the one funny thing in november we went to a

morning radio show you show and had a good following at is traffic ticket officers monday afternoon the hosts as they drank alcohol throughout the 4 hour seethe they promoted the alter months of transportation and monitored the blood alcohol. >> i'm getting a funny look. >> what was their blood-alcohol level. >> they were not passing out. >> and certainly didn't drive at the end of the show. >> i'm glad to hear that. >> slide 5 thanks okay partnerships and networking i'll tell you i haven't

partnered with so many of the agencies weekly i meet that the department of public health and under the umbrella of shared goal of vision zero when i spoke about the increasing modes of alternatively transportation it is growing we have so many bike sharing programs that is amazing the increase in numbers and alternatives twrapgs think that meet be through reengineering the streets and making that less friendly to drive around the city people are encouraged to drive other modes let's move on to the next slide here we go with our first data set you know it is pretty good news in 2013 third quarter there were 3 stations and a traffic company above the 50 percent our goal remember is reaching 50 percent of citations to be

focusing on the top 5 collision factors eave mentioned already and the third quarter the fourth quarter traffic enforcement special assignments and traffic enforcements and parades and demonstration other things that officers are detailed out trags again, our numbers drop off but still first station managed to hover above 44 percent and the traffic company was above 50 percent can you name those stations for everyone that is watching it's not clear northern station 44 percent last year a quarter and the traffic company had 62 percent the third and richmond had 48 and efrng side cartel e very well and a traffic company.

>> commander it was around 24 percent. >> or 16 percent hates that's a massive shift and the slide will show later. >> in light of 2014 the largest number of certifications we've drooefd and wrote a number of citations. >> okay. this can't say read it from here sorry this shows - a total of 13 thousand plus folks with violations comparing we're up 78 percent. >> what slide with reon? 7 okay. the focus on the relinquishment and federal and local to yield with turns we're

up 62 between 14 and 15 as you can see the percentage breakdown the lowest column row rather we're up in every category so again, the district captains are focusing on the things that maidz make people crash and if you can't say read the screen i'm sorry, i know had this is available on the website >> we have coops here for people to see mode size in slide 8, of course, we cite the most amount of citations to vehicles one plus violations were issued to cars 2 thousand plus to pedestrians and

bicycle one thousand plus slide 9 again as you can see how of the officers and their focus has substantially increased between 14 and 15 two periods and 5 percent up 73 the largest being failing to yield while turning pretty devastating collision with all the efforts we see between 14 and 15 minimal change but again remember i've mentioned we've done a lot of - well the increasing modes of transportation through to the best of my knowledge and pedestrians and public transportation i believe mta had not done the changes and the comboorment we've been doing those numbers would be greater. >> not where we want to be but

continue to work towards that and continue to do our role of education enforcement so 11 here's a demographic advise i told you about the breakdown in age again, we're focusing on the elderly well it's even over 6 years old 16 fatalities under 60, 15 and as you can see the number the type of dedicates one driver, four bicyclists and 6 motorcyclists and 6 pedestrians 12 this is on the public health department shows where their occurring nine of the fatality

collisions were on the out liars but on the high injury network as you can see numb rated by the math the red or ma run a that's it as far as second half the year presentation questions. >> what would be great i'd like to thank the partners that have been working on on this effort the leadership and walk sf and the bike coalition a collaborative process we don't all the parties don't agree it didn't mean you wave you're right to have an issue but work collaboratively to make that better and results here nicole and janice from the

bicyclist coalition i know we have folks that want to give me public comment this is after the last item anyone from walk sf or the bicycle coalition we invite them to participate and pride a brief statement. >> i feel remiss i didn't call them out great partners i gave them a picture on slide 4 come on up. >> good evening, commissioners i can't tell if so evening i'm kathy with san francisco small business commission and so for the most part i'm here to thank the police department for the focus on the numbers that is a great increase under 20 percent we saw the last quarter the 40 percent citywide we're excited about that

it is needed right now this year we're having record fatalities to date with calendar year this enforcement parents that is going to save lives we love to see there are certain stations downtown stations especially who focus on the 5 percentage are lower the teens and those areas are really those neighborhoods are high injury corridors with focused like the tenderloin and chinatown and soma we want to see tenderloin and station we're happy to work with them we're till work with captain lazarus and captain newsom and going on neighborhood walks and other community groups and actually will be going out walk sf and the coalition doing training on vision zero and the

top 5 collision factors and strategic enforcements any help but, provide for the police station and officers understand vision zero and what it means and what it looks like and how to get there to statistical statement we are happy we're on board. >> thanks for your partnership. >> hello commissioners my name is janice lee the advocacy director of the bicycle coalition thanks to commissioner president loftus and champion maddox open vision zero i know two years ago chief suhr you made a commitment to report on this so we applaud this on the phone call focus on the 5 and see the significant increase with this we with that said, we know people are hit and killed on the streets while booking and walking of fatality makes me

want to do my job better my first week on the job in october 2012 a gentleman was hit and skilled at the crazy street 11 by a muni bus in my first week that he was the china development center met with the family that spoke cantonese and something i carry with me everyday if i'm pushing myself to do my job is sfpd doing the same we want to make sure that sfpd is doing everything we can with the technology and everything in place to do so and get us to vision zero as i stand here urging sfpd is meet tare focus and continue daylight driven smart enforcement and lastly i know that vision zero and the leadership of the police kathy spoke to things in the

outreach beyond push sfpd to focus on the 5 for example, i spoke on the vision zero committee pushing the sfmta to continue to deliver more and more projects for street safety when it comes to education we trained all the shufrlt drivers to have the people walking and booking we've continue to offer free bicycle education we are currently out the contract with the city we're actually this on our own dime to do do education we hope last week the sfpd feels the same urgency in england this and doing everything we can to get the vision zero we're not there yet but as a city that cares about people we need to get there. >> thank you janice for your partnership. >> colleagues can i add an

update on the east side citations we're the only department in the country issuing advising first page a smart phone and this whole month we piloting 67 officers will go live with all the offices from the traffic company and working bugs it is exciting. >> doesn't that automate the implications of race and stops and helps us any questions. >> colleagues, any questions on vision zero for the commander. >> great i i want to give a shout out is a big deal. the chiefs to have to shift and a basis of our commander and captain silverman thank you for his leadership and captain at the terryville is the captain

and another captain and captain over at traffic thank you to all the captains for meeting a goal people thought waltz ambitious >> you mean they're not watching. >> yes. they were thank you thanks commander. >> that concluded my report. >> commissioner loo's has a question and all right. i was waiting until the end i wanted to go back on the brady notification for the da issue you don't have to answer how was that provided reading the press i'm wondering do we have a continuous list is there a highlight for the new people they can see that information. >> right so the answer is a pending brady is something our

brady attorney makes a phone call to their brady the president they'll be letters as appropriate feefsht and go to the list we have a brady list all the letters we've sent and the district attorney's office has that list and i'm told the da escapees an additional list. >> but i mean, they have - how do they know the new people on the list. >> brady let's them know the 832 point motion and gets assess to the file and that is provided. >> so the files with names they know. >> they know the names and call the police legal to make an appointment for files. >> one of the second things i want to talk about the text message the da made a large

announcement but i'm wondering you know without dennis herreraing and - and charges have been brought up without disclosing how you got that but the letter you, you could have. >> the criminal investigation was going on and didn't come to a close until march 23 we gave the criminal case while the i a case were filed administratively in the fall of last year. >> when the charges were filed we build are made a