a great contribution is secretary in collaboration with i i want to make sure you know amongst all of us there's a great preparation people want to get it right there will be requests that hud be as flexible as can be with the fact rules and regulations given the fact urban density champions we we have we also will be talking about issues like stableizing neighborhood with that credible economic upturn many parts of the neighborhoods are totally upset so long term ahbp africa be about stabilizing certain be neighborhood we create and build and finally, the homelessness population you deemed our seriousness by joining us with all the fact west coast mayors came up to portland and prepared notes we agreed homelessness is a challenge to all of us we

needed months a partnerships with hud to end homelessness and number of us stood up and as i said of would we'll end hematomas we know of the cause of homelessness but have frjsz of what does so gathering that together having the best models and hud backing up us as a models model of ending homelessness is a great game so i want to give an opportunity to marry libby schaaf she's been thinking again and demonstrating the new coverage of what is happening in oakland kind of similar challenges and also hoping refresher ways to do that. >> mayor libby schaaf. >> thank you, thank you

>> thank you for waiting, we had technical difficulties and want to make sure everyone can see what happening who is also not in the room. let me check the time. like call the meeting to ord at 443 p.m. welcome to the tuesday april 5 addition of the entertainment commission. i'm bryant tan the president and there are a few things we want to come over. if you can please have your cell phones on vibrate or silent just to not disturb the meeting. if you are hear to speak on a item which i assume most are we

have speaker cards. if you haven't filled one out that is fine, i'll call people to come and make public comment and if you can just introduce yourself in the microphone. thank you to sf gov tv for producing and airing the meeting to the public. we'll start with roll call. >> commissioner frost, here. commissioner lee, here. commissioner perez, here. commissioner cam nog recollect here. commissioner lee, here. commission. commissioner joseph is absent. can i see a raise of hands how many are here to speak on the armory? rather than have you sit through the general items i would like to ask a commissioner to move up the

armory so item 5 b up to right after general public comment on the agenda. >> i make the motion >> i second. >> on the motion, commissioner frost, aye. commissioner lee, i aye. perez, aye. commissioner caminong, aye. we will hear the [inaudible] after general public comment. the first item is general public comment for any item that pertain tooz the business of the entertainment commission that you don't see on the agenda. is there general public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. hearjug possible action regard thg permits for the armory. i'll hand it first to our deputy director and--we will come back

to that. we will go ahead and pass to the deputy director and believe weville a few guests speak before public comment >> hello everyone, hello commissioners rchlt our first [inaudible] is for a major amendment to sf armory place of entertainment permit. the applicant is requesting a amendment to the current place of entertainment this commission issued may 2, 2013. this is a order to bring the permit into accord wns the planning department approval of night time entertainment as a permitted use in the [inaudible] zoning district. under the previous arts use permit is rks f armory was only allowed to host 1 public event per month per the temporary use authorization given by the planning department. sf armory applied for the amendment february 9, 2015.

the owners asked for a continuous to that hearing date in response to a large amount of neighborhood complaints. for visor david compose office helped organize a second meeting on march 28 to hear the grievances. the commission should consider sf armory hosted 3 unpermitted events in february outside of the one applied for and approved one night event permit. one of these event held at the end of february caused a laurj disturbance. there are several grieve nsss filed by the neighbors up to march 15 and as the last eventive held. sf armory presented their own condition tooz the major amendment. you will see these attached along with conditions from the police department. here to tell more about sf

armory and operations is mark meagher and mark [inaudible] can you please come up to the podium? >> hi. good evening. if you can bear with us for one moment here. my name is mark loper a attorney at [inaudible] and here to speak on behalf the armory. joining me today to answer any questions you may have is peter acworth, he is the ceo of the armory, peter is over there. mark meagher will run the slides. he is the ceoo. eric moorey from charles and salter associates which is a sound consulting firm which did the sound study thatd was part the environmental review is also here to speak and ask andrew wolfram from [inaudible] to talk about

the sound improvement techniques. if you would like start by showing a short video about the armory. thank you. >> [music playing] so, the drill court of the armory is the only event space of its kind in san francisco. it is

below 40,000 square feet and one of the largest incluzed spaces in san francisco. it is all most completely square and has no support column squz clear site lines everywhere. the armory has operating under limited use entertainment permit and hosted 50 community events since 2012. these included pride at the armory, [inaudible] life cycle, the san francisco film society, a new year eves event and [inaudible] to name a few as well as concerts. the owner of the armory is passionate about making the drill court available to the community. these inincludes building bridges for the homeless. 3 strikes justice and the an arkest book fair to name a few. in order to keep the armory maintained to

finance needed upgrades and continue opening the venue for the community and not for profit events the armory needs a full entertainment permit. the armory has done extensive community outreach on this permit holding two communities meet jgz sending mailings to everyone within 600 feet of their building february 9. as you heard, the armory worked with supervisor david compose office to make sure there is a spanish translation. they also visited non profit within 600 feet of the armory. [inaudible] one on the second and another about a muckt later. the second meeting was facilitated by hillary roanen from supervisor camposs office and [inaudible] raise concerns and ask any question they had of armory representatives. during the discussions with neighbors, the

armory was informed some of its neighbors along lieuered street were trying to find way tooz protect the status of their homesism the armory is excited to support the neighbors to get a new historic district formed around wood ward. the armory paid the application fee to get the land marking process started and will continue to help out in the future as the process makes its way through the city. one of inprimary concerns raised invalve sound leakage from electron recollect event hell in february. the armories goal is and has always been to be the neighbors should not be able to hear or feel the music during any event no matter what time of day. in work wg salter and tef design the armory developed a comprehensive plan which we think will fully address sounds concerns and i'll run through them. if wu have question later we can

go through any of them in detail. the first is construct a sound proof indust vestibule for all the doors along 14th street phasing wood wrbd. the architect plans to have these-the architect plans have been completed and will be submitting to the building department shortly. construction will be completed before any other live amplifyed music event is held at the armory. the second issue that we are going to kpraess is adding a live music rider to all contracts. a music rider is basically a add on to a contract and this writer will prohibit base signals under 40 hertz and require decimal readings outside the venue to make sure there are no decibel readings in excess of 8

decibels. 3, install a limiter on sound amplifyer. the limiter will be set to not allow hertz or decibel levels to exceed what i just discussed. also, it allows the armory to make adjustments to sound levels during a show if needed. that is in the middle of the show. four, the armory will purchase sound insulator shock absorbs. this will avoid the sound traveling through the floor to find a exist path. five, purchase a sound system. event will be asked to use the armory sound system set up in accordance with the allowable sound levels i discussed in the second point and 2 will give them further ability to make adjustments to sound levels of events as needed. six, as needed, the armory will also install a second layer of glass on the inside of all existing windows. finally, the armory will

continue to work to identify other measures and improvements in the future that can contain sound within the drill court. the second primary concern that was raised at the town hall meetings is some of the events in february were held without a permit and you heard about that. two events at the end of february didn't have a proper permit. unfortunately the armory anticipated having the permit in place long brf this event was brought. the permit was not received in time and the armory was forced to make a decision between consling the event at a significant loss that could have exceeded 3 hun thousand dollars or continuing with the evonet as planned. another concern raised for large public events involves vandalism and dropping of garbage that

travel along woodward street before and after events. i will run through a few things that are dern currently and a few things that will be done in the future. currently for all event the armory has one security guard for every 100 patrons. the scrurt team is license in california and every security person carries a gaurd card. all personnel receive training including crowd control and disescalation training thmpt gaurds help with organized dispersement moving towards the commercial streets ooch mission and valencia. also the armory agreed to post a security guard at woodward street after all large public events to insure patrons are not wandering down woodward street thmpt armory also installed safety lights around the perimeter of the building which

you can see in this image. finally, in keeping with the good nairn policy, the armory has supporters who clean up side walks after events. the morning after the events facilities personnel does a sweep the sidewalks picking up debris. also, the sidewalks are power washed before every event and monthly. kiping mission, 14th street, julian street clean and debris free is a constant challenge given the large number of homeless encampments. the armory will continue work wg the city and neighbors how they can to find workable solutions to this issue. this is the slide of the proposed condition rchlt the armory also

shared these conditions with the neighbors at the march 28 town hall meeting. my client feels this conditions show good faith of their intentions to operate events in the manner that respects the neighbors and neighborhood. for at least the next year- >> are those conditions printed somewhere besides the slide? are they in the packet? >> the second to last page. sorry. >> for at least the next year the armory doesn't intend to have a liquor license and will contract with best beverage. by taking this approach the armory can have event open to all age groups. not everyone who supports this amendment to the entertainment permit could be here tonight including supervisor scott

wiener, mission merchants association and [inaudible] which is a not for profit which is a neighbor of the armory and [inaudible] businesses to name a few. you have written letters of support which should have been provided in your package. the san francisco armory employs 150 individuals which spike to 200 during large event. some of these employees who are also mission residence are here today and you will hear from them sortly. these employees support local business. event pateerages also support local business. any local restaurants exploring shops and attending bars. the armory is a great asset for the community. as you have seen the arm resupported diversity of events over the years. san francisco is home to a diverse and [inaudible] the armory

recognizes and embraces this and plans hosting a large variety of event that can peal to all corners of san franciscos population. the armory is open to neighbors on event. the armory is committed to making sure neighbors are aware of events and improvements and making themselves available at all times via a neighborhohood line phone line. in closing, i want to thank you the entertainment commission for allowing us the opportunity to bepresent before you today. the armory wants to express the thanks and gratitude to supervisor david compose office for facilitating a conversation with our neighbors. the armory values their community and wants to thank you for all the neighbors for their in involvement. north dakota to complete the capital impruchments and support the community in

not for profit events we ask you to approve the amendment to the entertainment permit with the commissions they proposed. just one final thing, i want to ask the saund sound engineer to come up and briefly talk about the sound atinuation measures that will take place so everyone has a frame of reference and the architect will talk about how they will implement that. with that, i'll call eric moorey. >> for the folks at the door if you can not block the door. there are seats on this side of the room. i believe we have spanish language translation available for anyone that needs it so if you do need that please see staff and they will help you with that. >> good afternoon. got a good summary of what we are doing and just want to give background of

how we got to that point. when we were first brought on by the armory to address the noise issues we noticed the biggest problem is have single sets of doors along the facade that you can see light through so we looked at the couple stups for that. one is, to gasket the doors along the street so sound doesn't leak through. that will give a significant improvement it isn't all it could be so what they will implement is creating a vestibule on the inside so we have sth sealed doors on the outside and vestibule on the inside and second set of sealed doors. what we consider the second phase is address the windows on the facade. we expected the door and vestibule system would be done first and the windows second. i think based what was on the screen they may do all as one phase so those were the two

primary noise paths we addressed. >> the armory is historic? >> yes >> so, you're sound proofing could effect the facade, you understand that? >> the answer is any building permit will have to be routed through the plning departments chhas a historic team that will take a look at that >> have and applied for that already? >> and think the permit is being applied for shortly. i know the plans are done, not sure if they are filed with dbi. >> thanks. >> on that note, andrew wolfram, the architect >> my name is andrew wolfram we are architects working with the armory. to proposal for the exterior doors on 14th street is keeping the existing doors that

are there and adding gasigateing around the doors so we are not making changes to the exterior. the changes are only on the inside. what we are proposing to do, there are three pairs of doors along 14th street and at each we'll add seals aroun all the doors and we are building inside underneath the mesnene a ves boule that has another set of doors with sound seals so a sound like done from the inside so there is no effect on the histtoric elevation of the building. these drawings are ready to be submit today the building department. we anticipate because all the work done on the inside it a over the counter review so it is relatively straight forward

approval process >> what is being done to the windows? i think a lot of the complaint were about rattling windows? >> that-eric recollect , you want to speak to that? that also i think will be done from the inside as well. >> what they have now are single pain windows and what gets done now for light purposes is put black cellophane over it. there is a method having light when they need to and not when they don't want it. we looicing at solid black out panels over it. now they may add interior windows to act as a [inaudible] storm window system which will improve acoustics all the time. >> you are saying you are adding panelling- >> we recommended paneling

because it is something that is removable and block the light but i thipg what will be done is a secondary anterior window pain >> it isn't like a vestibule for windows? >> correct. >> okay. >> that concludes our presentation. we are here it squr any questions you may have. >> i think we have several of them. commissioner, any questions? >> is your head of security here? >> no, but our coo can talk all the security measures if you like. >> i think a lot of this has to do with security and it is nice if your head of security was here in front of us. obviously there are questions with the neighborhood and knowing the size and i see your security plan is very good and you have it well covered on the

inside but i want to ask questions about when the lines outside getting in, how many people for one person to handle a large line. same when they are leaving as well. >> absolutely, let me call up the chief operating officer. this is mark meagher. we'll call up one of the folks involved in the day to day basis on the armory event and this is alisa and she will speak to that. >> hi. sure. so every time we have a event we not only have guards on the interior of the building but we also have about 6 guards on the exterior of the building and every time we have a event we order 10 b, so that means we have two cops that are literally circling around the

perimeter the building to insure that the lines are managed correctly and well and safely for the public. >> so my question is, if you become a real poe and don't know this may be a question can staff, night clubs are not allowed to have 10 b and so i don't know if this is a special event space or considered a regular poe if that applies and guess we can ask the police when they come up but i'm letting you know if you don't have the 10 b what is your resource if you have 6 guards outside >> we will increase the amount of security guards we have. that is very important concern and we want to maintain the safety so we'll increase that number. >> say there are a thousand people coming to the concert and get

oneguard for every 100. that is a lot. does that mean you have one for every hundred outside and avenue everyone comes in and goes out. >> we absolutely can accommodate that going forward. so, what we have done in the past is we increased the number of guards we have per event especially for concert squz [inaudible] shows, so we put a extra 5 guards outside. >> is the same security company each time? >> so, we have internal security team, however, that team is about 6 people so whut we do is hire die hard security. unfortunately joe who is sth president of the company couldn't make it tonight but we have been working with them for the last several events in conjunction with our internal

security team >> my concern if this is important thing-i'm sure and are not outside at 2 a.m. >> i am. i am the floor manager so i'm there before the event begin squz a hour after the event ends all most two hour after the events ends. i'm floating around 24/7 managing and talking to the teams all the time >> in the good neighborhood policy you are the one the neighbors would call? because there is a phone number and it has to be accessible to the manager >> that is correct >> you are response to any of the neighbors? >> absolutely. >> since you are up here and talked about security, the plan is have one security guard posted along woordward, is that the case in the previous event? >> is the case we had a garbd

outside? >> yes >> no this was response that came out of our meeting, neighborhood meeting. so, we heard our neighbors and heard they were having trouble when folks left the venue, they had trouble around the neighborhood so we grud we would provide a guard on woodward to help manage that and make it a better safeer place >> what type of notice or announcements have you made to the patrons telling about being nice to the neighbor jz this is a residential neighborhood? >> many. we do have [inaudible] stating that as well. >> and it sounds like a lot of the complaints have come about because of several specific parties and i know you had other parties besides that, can you speak to how what the difference is for the ones that people complain about rsus the ones no one say as peep about? it sound like part is noise but has there

been a management issue or different promoter? >> peter acworth who owns and rents the armory would like to answer that question if you dont mind. >> thank you. i would like to address that. there is no question the two event that happened fwack to back on a friday and saturday night in february and those event were too loud. we apologized for those. the event director was in hospital that weekend but we learned from the event and that will never happen again and you have my commitment to that. until the sound plan is put in place we are not hosting anymore concerts. i want to say i'm committed to be a good neighbor. if you look at the track record of the armory you won't find complaint there and [inaudible] i would like to point out there are 50 event ovthe last 3 years. it was

only these events that were a problem >> what went wrong, is it your events director was in the hospital or someone turned up the volume ? >> they refused to turn the volume down >> who is they? >> the promoters. >> are you plan toog work with these promoters again? >> not if i have anything to do with it and i do so no we are not. >> other questions from commissioners? i have a few more. >> i wanted to ask about the process for the 3 events that occurred in february. were the neighbors able to contact the contact person during the night of or it sound like you had like a neighborhood dialogue in the month of march but during the month of february and those events occurred were the neighbors able to talk to a representative? >> yeah, i believe that in february there was only one

number to call and both of the community meetings neighbors said they were unable to get through so now there are two dedicated numbers to make sure one line isn't over run with complaint. i also know there were calls directed to the local station chief so i'm sure in the police talk you can ask them about that as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioners other question snz s? >> besides the sound would you be open to using other modes of communication like e-mail or text? >> absolutely. one thing i glossed over is the armory is geing to start having a regular news letter that goes out to all the neighbors that let's them know what event are coming up, what improvements will be taking

place, who they can talk to if they want to host a neighborhood meeting or who they can talk to if they want to raise concerns about a past event or something like that. >> what is your policy for responding to neighborhood complaints about noise issues? >> yeah, the armory does a fantastic job of trying to touch base with each and every person that they are told makes a complaint whether that comes through 311 or whether it comes directly to the armory. even if someone shows up at the front door they usually try to do what they can to talk to them. >> if it is phone call the [inaudible] respond within hours, 24 hours or what is the policy? >> i'm not sure if they have a policy of 24 hour policy but ifthality is something the commission wants to consider-

>> just asking what you have been doing? >> the policy is something we will begin to develop but i will tell you right now i have my cell phone on my 24/7 so if i get a phone call i pick it up immediately and if i can't pick it up at that time then i'll call the phone number back and insure that neighbor is communicated with. >> how are you publicizing the phone number >> e-mail and possibly a mailing. i need to discuss that. on the website as well. >> thank you. >> follow up questions. >> come people come in the front door or contact you with concerns, does that get routed to a single staff person or you respond to it or who ever is at the front door? >> there is a single point of contact so there are two phones, one is for the floor manager,

myself and the other is at the front death at security. and who ever is at the desk at that time is the lead on that. >> i assume you guys had people complain those night of the concert so what did you do those nights >> we did and i was there and met with some of our lovely neighbors and had a discussion with them and i worked very very hard to insure that sound wasn't bleeding through the windows but it became difficult, so-can you restate your question? >> i assume neighbors complained is that correct? >> yes that is correct. we had a cup lt complaunt >> what i here moving forward you will respond and have your phone on you 24/7 and that is great but you had opportunities to prove yourself through the previous

permit so curious what you did as a response when neighbors complained >> what we did as a response is held a town hall meeting to discuss what occurred? . >> was there a way to limit the sound our immediately deal with the situation rather than have a town hall meeting after the fact? >> during the event? >> yes >> no, i'm unsure of this time. i can't say, but i can say going forward is that we will definitely be communicating with the neighbors. >> the problem with this particular event and we are talking about two event, we had a difficult promoter and we talked about the windows and doors but it wouldn't have fixed the issue. the problem is we didvent control over the final volume switch and that is what i committed to putting

on. not only the volume but cut out the frequency and those are the buttons we need to have so when we get a call from the neighbor we can turn it down and failed to do that and want to geon record and apologize for that >> what you are saying if you go to the promoter and refusing to turn it down you can go into a separate room and control that volume? >> yes, that is my understanding. without that power all we can do is threaten to switch off the entire system which is a very big resource. >> you are saying that you will invest in a whole self enclosed sound system so if a recording artist wants to come in and they usually travel with their own stuff you will say- >> my understanding is there a piece of equipment that sits between their equipment and the amplifyer and the speaker squzs

and we can control that. that is providing they pipe into you but do they have monitors that are loud because they play and those are- >> a lot oof stuff has to go through the house system so how much are you willing to invest to make sure you have full control? >> well, a lot. this permit i'm able to borrow the fund to invest in our own sound system and equipment so the commitment is we will by whatever means have our fingers on that volume control >> what is the timeline for these improvements? is it the next 6 months or a year, what is your timeframe? >> the doors we already applied for the permit are applying within days. we are committed not to concerts until that is done and can make a commitment to not have

concerts until it cuts out the base. >> do you have a date in mind? >> i should-you won't notice the construction. >> doia have a date? >> we should be done 3 months. >> so, june, july. >> around that time. july. we are committing to not having concerts in that timeframe. >> no advanced bookings, no shows coming up in september? there is a chance through planning and preservation- >> i believe we have plans for pride party which is not a concert. >> you are using amplifyed sound. you can get a one day permit i believe, but i don't know what

the process now if you apply for regular poe can- >> they can get one day. >> i mean i do a lot of these kind of things and planning and dbi are backed up and so i don't want to hear that you are backed up and want to cancel $300,000 group because you skewed up on your timeframe. we don't want to hear there is no exkoos, i don't know the penalty but for me as a industry rep we follow the same rules no matter what, so again, it is up to the commission what we'll do about that but that is a separate topic. i just want to let you know this is a very extensive sound proofing job, you are a historical building, 3 months is optimistic.

>> commissioners other questions? >> in your application talks about on page 7 it talks about doing pat down and check bags. if people don't allow that they are not allowed entry but when you go through the security plan and the entry door procedures by your security company doesn't say anything about doing pat downs. >> well, we can make sure that going forward that is part of any security procedure at all events there is a pat down. >> it sounds like you made a business decision to go against the policies of the entertainment commission and because you would have lost a lot of money, i think you said $300,000, are you planning giving a discount to any non

profit groups that want to go into your event or is there a way to give back tothe community since you decided to go against the policy by making a business decision? >> um,-do you want to- >> i was going to mention- >> can you come up to the microphone >> >> we hosted many non profit events including aids life cycle and [inaudible] hair tip society. film society and we have donated the space to these non profits and given back to the community. >> i am sorry i need to conform the obvious which is they are willing to do what they can to help non profits have events at discounted rates, open the

space so people can come in on the week nights have to a imprompue gathers. >> that sounds well and good. i think that is difficult to enforce. we can try to enforce is issue around sound and whether you have a permit and whether you abide by the rules and it is difficult for me to 100 percent back this knowing you violated something that you know you needed which is a entertainment permit for those two nights. also i want to talk about the permit conditions. this situation-i'll ask the police to come up. the situation reminds me of the masonic center which had opposition fwraum the residence and limited the number of day squz number of types of performances they can have a year, is that-i don't see anything about that besides the extended hours but for regular

entertainment have you considered limiting the number of days or number of times a month you would be willing to kind of negotiate down from having a full permit? >> yeah, sure. that is a really good question. we don't want to self impose conditions. we are here for a full permit and so we leave it to the discrugz discretion of the commission. >> i think we may have more questions. >> when you plan big events in the future what preparation do you do for parking and traffic in the neighborhood? >> part of along with the sound study-would have a significant

impact on the neighborhood. the result of the planning department and the consultant said is no, it wouldn't and that there are a few things they can continue to do to mitigate any impacts. the first one, which we are actually volunteering to do is there will be security guard that will prevent a lot of the flow along woodward after events. the parking lot, there is a public parking lot available kiddie corner that

event patrons can use. we are also going to be installing a cross walk that goes along mission street

and needed another opportunity for neighbors to come back and

you to take into account whether or not the conditions were working however, we learned fortunately from a cc x d article last time it is unclear member gallo yet started out the presentation assessing 3 unpermitted events and others two it is not clear how many events were unpermitted and exactly what happened and it really changed supervisor campos opinion despite the owners the facility not the management experience and skills to properly run this large entertainment commission venue the community and unable to support the permit and so since a following up letter in your packet with support i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you very much. >> thank you

any questions for her no all right. at this time opening it up for public comment i have many speaker cards so i'll actually call out your names in 3s if you could line up and come to the podium a limit of 2 minutes per speaker keep it brief a lot of people that want to speak i'll start with (calling names) if you go ahead and line up on the side and come on up when i call you amanda first >> hi there thanks for letting me speak i live a half a block from the armory and we've been

disturbed until 2 morning by four shows you my understanding there were 4 shows in february and one of them was permitted one was expressly disallowed and during the 2:00 a.m. music that was placing with these were rattling couldn't go to sleep and go to work the next day on one of the occasions it is hatred to trust they will for the purpose through with 3 shows with no permit so of the residents are are not here but at the march meeting they were not able to drive their vehicles down julian streets there will be provisions for people that live the area so they can emigrate to their homes he look at the traffic study provided last time it seemed like

significant congestion issues so the parking lot that the attorney was talking about had the hundred spaces some were used write residents and less than one hundred and other smaller lots up to a maximum of one and 74 spaces the study showed that the agree vehicles were 200 plus new vehicles and navigation an estimate of 5 hundred taxis and vehicles that come when it was bigger events that's a huge unanimous of traffic i experienced that on the night at the show it took me a a long time to get home opened a can of worms it is smoothed i'm appreciate you consider those issues thank you. >> thank you. >> tim and jason and stephen.

>> hi my name is a tim, i live down towards on wood ward first, i want to say i'm not fundamentally opposed generally, however, i have concerns not necessarily about the sound that is an issue for the folks on the end but when those kids leave the events i see kids we're talking about all ages you ask what kind of events the raves theal ages and the electronic events run satisfactorily steward, however, those kids when they pour down the block mission and valencia are exposed they'll hang out literally all night and scream their heads off and i vail themselves to cars the street to do their business

i can tell the diversities of an occasion in this this was an uptick in graffiti and someone on the 14th street side but hopefully, a patrol or walk down wood ward to clear the block and the duo by those boss side is fairly dark and people commissioner kwon congregate there i suppose those kids with waiting for a bus and waiting until 5:00 a.m. i'm in support of permit and want to to be successful hope in order to - with all the events it will be the a kills he'll and put more effort into keeping up the area after the events. >> jason and stephen and

christian. >> good evening, commissioners i'm jason ramos work in production at the armory i supervisor thirty employees we want to say that the employees there all patronize the neighborhood they go to the local businesses and restaurants whatnot i hear in business owners how happy they are to have us the neighborhood i think if you look at 10 years that corner of 14th street the armory made significant improvements not infrastructure and the way things are done the security is you know hive vigilant on a daily basis we assist sfpd and things that occur there with the video surveillance system i speak in support is it goes a long way to revitalize the neighborhood thank you. >> stephen, christian tony.

>> i'm the executive director for a nonprofit call ages we work with the armory at the end of january and siemens corporation a production that goes through electronic music and provide education of health and safety so we have peers go in they're trained and essential check on people hand other bottled water and condemns and work with medical to get people the help they need and i connected what audry she police officers what we are doing and started work with the venue and that night we arrived howell and had go people went inside worked medical all night and a

positive experience it is worst anyone that takes the seriousness of health and it comes to astronomical fences we want to endorse them. >> thank you >> my name is christian a staffing manager for best caterers done a number of events at the armory and be able to continue to do so i want to point out one of the many benefits of having the armory opposed with the amount of jobs to the neighborhood we're a san francisco-based company and through the few events this year it is provided over 200 and 50 jobs so far not including the

preevent production jobs the back of house food prep and so forth and it benefits the neighborhood greatly and many of the folks live around the mission district and, of course, like to spend their money where they are i want to point out the bench caterer supplies the best beiges it effects the neighborhood we do ongoing company training and require all our employees to go though the acholic beverage certification before they work for us thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. tony and

madeline and susan. >> hi good evening i also work for best carter an event manager spending a lot of time at the armory i just want to lend any support and say that based on any charges i calculations we generate $2,000 the month of sfeb in sales tax and and positive cascade event i intauktd register companies and we generated revenue by renting parking spaces so san francisco has a long history of supporting small businesses and there is a cascade effect by having the arsenaly open for business. >> great, thank you. >> madeline and susan and elaine. >> hi, i'm madeline i work the speech event industry in san

francisco and as you guys probably know san francisco is in spite need of open space like the armory the past year we've lost of the concourse and passive lip and pier 48 and pier 70 is slotted for roll call vote and the met iron construction in the fall spaces lake the armory provide spaces so far counterpart and other trade shows, etc. all great for businesses doing event in san francisco i feel like this is corporate revenue not captured and people are forced to hold their events outside of san francisco we simply don't have the space that's why i'm supportive. >> thank you. >> elaine oh, i'm sorry susan and elaine and i have have

an i'm here to support right of armory i supported this versus an empty space any positive activation in that neighborhood is good for business we have enough places for people to live i think those people will have something to do i support it thank you. >> thank you. >> elaine, ivan. >> good evening president tan and commissioners i'm appearing this evening to express my support for the sole entertainment permits for the armory i've been in the events business for over 25 years and founded and operated two companies one in a production company and a few catering company and currently an acting

president of the international society of special events and served on the board of directors since 2011 did san francisco armory is good for local event industry and it is vital for the city for the armory provides a valuable meeting space for corporations and private events in a central location earlier assessable by public transportation the armory offers 40 thousand square feet of events open space by the event and an amenity like an 80 foot ceiling hardwood maple floors and catering facilities can you feel and in addition in house affordable housing lighting

provider has been one of the premier events for the last 27 years on behalf of i ses we need a space like this several larger venues have been pointed out to have closed the concourse and soon the pier 48 the i ses a tradition o is planning to hold their gala at r at the sf gallery to showcase their events. >> pardon me and okay. >> i want to say informing for those reasons i hope you grant the permit to the poe thank you. >> great ivan and michael and sid good evening commissioners i live directly across the street from the armory

mission a hundred and 24 units mostly senior citizens i'm with the emergency team the block captain i try to keep focused on issues that concern the clients in my building and the neighborhood a few years ago when the armory put on the first concert we were undictated with sound it was awesome after the concert was over he skakt peter and said we can't have this people need their privacy he said i'll take care of it. >> it was 8 days later when i received a phone call from peter saying that he had sounds like

engineers coming and assessing the building they found the sound which we were experiencing across the street was coming up through the roof in some vents thus able to determine and able to correct it. >> so stooishgd and the people in the building we couldn't have a better neighbor than peter. >> thank you. >> all right. michael, sid and another person. >> good evening, commissioners hi, i'm mike and i've lived the valencia for i had a shop at valencia our o for over thirty years my apartment window and store windows face on the julian

street into the armory i never thought i'll be the type of urban dweller who will proclaim about night life i've never wanted to be this person but here he. and it is because of rave parties because of lastlyness of the events and what has occurred as you've heard the parties in february was disruptive to the neighborhood but i find it necessary to ask you condition their application for a new license in order to protect the neighborhoods of whatever new schemes they have i call it a scheme because the armory states in their amendments that they amended their permit and condition it to no extended hours except for 3 events if 2016 what do you mean in 2017 i

take that to mean they can have all the extend hours they want i assume does that mean one a month or one-a-day or to a day in my letter one of the specific complaint to supervisor avalos was the noise and port pots on julian street the armory blames it on the performance and said they'll not use live nation there is no indication the armories plans they'll deal with julian street the noise on julian street should be part of the conditions like 14th street and on julian street the armcy. >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> thank you. >> sid (calling names).

>> hi good evening i'm a local psychologist work for the city of san francisco but to supplement my income i throw more events including 3 new years eve not the february shows in question our shows are 21 and over and the 30s and eclectic offering artists and sculpture performance artists employed hundreds of local artists and stagehands and folks that are starting to live here given the changes in the economy as said not many venues like they we need everyone to be a kvrlt rich city and not go down the pathway we're afraid we los losses our soul i'm obviously in

support of this. >> thank you. (calling names) >> hello commission i'm a residents living in the bay area for 20 years i live a couple of blocks and someone mentioned people living in the mission having something to do i'm exist for a venue i'm exist to see how it enriches the culture thank you. >> good evening my name is you can't very well an attorney and also the co-founder the 3 strikes justice a nonprofit organization here in san francisco located on math and van ness it is a good partner to support social justice the past 12 months two

private if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them at the armory we building that the armory is a valuable partner and support them in their efforts today thank you. >> great, thank you (calling names). >> hi i live across the street from the armory i'm also employed by the armory i have not really been disturbed by the events that have been thrown i little directly across the street so i don't deal with as much of the noise as the window people that talked today as you may know we employ about whereon and 50 employees throughout the year without stuff regarding to the events we are work with thirty plus contracts and local businesses around the area we're in hopes of adding additional head counts should

this permit pass and which will be around 32 e.r. 50 new or additional employees hoping that increase the security and other head counts for better management of the events as a mission residents i'm proud to say i work with a company that employees people from the neighborhood and i'm in support. >> thank you, thank you (calling names). >> good afternoon. i'm solomon i'm the president of the nonfiction we have our corporate office in the armory we're here to support all the permit that have been applied for with the armory i'm glad to hear no problem but i feel certain in my heart that

they will be fixed as you heard from other people we're losing buildings we're losing places to go to have an event with hundreds of people maybe a thousand people maybe more their disappearing we were on howard street my office had 12 thousand square feet we were evicted a year ago the rent is now tripled what it was and that's on howard street off 7th street the ability to society or associate in san francisco whether a meeting are gathering a conference or trade show or gala or distance residual it must be saved those are just a few of the types of events we're discussing here all those activities are the lifeblood of the city we need

the space to happen we need the armory so we may maintain and continue stun sustain our culture and heritage in a city that knows how to quote charlotte we used to be the city that knows how; right? i'm sure you've heard that we don't know how if we lose this says that the armory please save our space thank you. >> thank you. >> (calling names). >> thank you for working this though i'm with the summit when i showed up 25 years ago and stated by the armory it was probably the worst neighborhood in san francisco it was really, really rough now the armory and

public works it provides an area where people can go out and we're a world war we have a place people can go and get their freak on do whatever that really is going to make a great event it keeps a world-class place i understand there are don't artists but no people to be on the streets hours after the show i building it can be addressed as well as the transportation issues their major and real as it moves forward you can with uber and lyft you can find a way to work through those i urge the council to approve it but also find a way where the neighbors it sounds like the sound is

addressed and really maybe it is you'll find all age events and kids shouldn't be the neighborhood at 3:30 in the morning it seems like it will come to resolution i'm happening 457 we'll have another great venue in this great city (clapping.) thank you. >> oh, applause all right. (calling names). >> hi, good evening. i'm a resident i've been a resident for 20 years i've lived across from the armory and 14th street first of all, when the armory moved into the neighborhood you had folks took over we have a motion and a second we've been supportive up to july 31st the 30th when did chemical show afterwards and the programming significantly changed no one is in i don't think anyone the room

wants to deny the live cycle event private, corporate events or sacking i didn't festivals it is the concert that are problematic the noise issues began with the chemical brother show the vibrations rattled the windows and felt under foot one of the events went so far as to crack any bathroom, window my family and think friends have called 317 to register register our complaints we have learned were held without permits in addition, we have observed the sf armory leave the doors open

in vision violation of a permit and port pots were on the streets on march 2 and march 28 my neighbor peter and audrey addressed those containments as mistakes entering into and honor a contract with a proper permit is not just a mistake but legal obligation those permit states. >> your time ma'am. >> okay. thank you. >> (calling names). >> hello good evening i live at wood ward street near the armory i think personally want to say i've been supportive of armory in general and other take over the building, however, i think those shows especially the shows

in february 3rd of them of which were against the permit and strooelz sdushl especially for the working-class we have to work nights and weekend and odd hours for us to suffer from a lack of sleep is seriously detrimental to our health, i want to ask we go forward 3 events maybe pride and new years eve and establish a track record of hosting an event without creating a disturbs is and if in their successful at hosting events with zero noise then they have their permit reconsidered at a later date i think they need to establish a track record the way it is they've getting gotten in their car and drove to the dmv and they got into 4

massive car wrecks and said give me my license that doesn't work well, thank you (clapping.) thank you and sorry i bunched your name (calling names). >> hello, i'm jeffrey i live about a block away from the armory i'm hearing today no one is against like the armory and management and the community i'm for it i've definitely been disturbed by the incidents that happened over the last couple of months my neighbors talked about the windows rattling and you know, i think that they should be allowed to continue as a place of entertainment but with the proper restrictions they would their counter proposal to

host events during the week until 2:00 a.m. and halloween the idea they can host 4 thousand person events on the weekends i i can't understand how this is doable i'll asking for 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. and asking for events until 2:00 a.m. the weekend their take into account nonprofit and corporate events and take into account good neighbor community those don't go to 2:00 a.m. they're a rave and large concert those are the events the neighborhood is quite frankly afraid have to consider the hours of restrictions during hours of the week for neighbors to get rest you know you certainly asked a question what's the difference

between the old events and the new events people are complaining about it is the scale you're talking about 4 thousand people the hours until from two to 4:00 a.m. and the types of events that have having o hours allows them to hold 2 and 4:00 a.m. are not what we need to the neighborhood i'm for their place of entertainment but with hours of restrictions thank you. >> thank you. >> (clapping.) all right. (calling names). >> hi, i'm raul it is kind of warm in here. >> i did write a letter which you can read later on i'm kind of against the planning commission to go forward until all the sound problems are addressed i live next door 15

street and a lot of the noise vibrates through the parking lot and echoes and amplifies i have windows closed and fans to distract but the sounds like comes through my apartment so has kept me awake and ruins my nervous system i'll for the events they like to do in the day with reasonable hours and control until the sound is addressed i can't support this this is the letter. >> thank you. (calling names) >> hi, i'm petra i live a half a block from the armory a

second about the noise the windows are vibrating but the base in my body i will say my concern is really lack of experience from the armory management in managing those large events for example, security concerns that representative; right? what are you guys going to do about the outside they said well, we'll accommodate they don't have an appreciation what 4 thousand people events and in terms of the parking i do use the parking lot on 14th street it is actually a 50 space parking lot tea they double park i can't get my car out and as far as people take public transportation if

you get public transportation at mint or 12:30 how will the people get home we have to balance one o president entertainment space i'm a music lover but the eastern neighborhoods having our rest at night and a balance needs to be struck we adopt mosaic limit the number of events and hours because yeah nobody wants to stop them having an event but within reason and mann anyone that has not combrerdz the noise i invite them to my house thank you for your time and he really, really encourage you not to give them the permitted with no restrictions but if you give them tonight have the hours

limited and real, real hear the local residents that are impacted by each of the events one more last thing. >> your time is up. >> ma'am, sorry (calling names). >> good evening, commissioners temdz i'm gabriel the policy manager for the economic development i'm here to urge you not to allow this permit for 4 thousand people is not certify we're part of a coalition called safe the mission an organization of nonprofits and coalitions and i will urge the armory folks to meet with us about what is culturally committee competent for the neighborhood we've heard about citywide venues that need

a venue we have a 20 percent unemployment rate and hopefully, this will be having as many jobs as possible i have a slide that shows i think this should show up that ever since the neighborhood has been changing matt haney meaning the loss of pdr and the proliferation of alcohol permits despite city manager a special use district we have a district of columbia nation of people feeling safe they're having to deal with a lot of the night life proliferation of alcohol so - you know part of our coalition not only meta but the fact and network urge you to deny this permit they've authorized me to

speak on behalf of them we engage the organizations to talk about what is important for you the neighborhood we've heard about the needs the mission needs childcare and nonprofit and serving retail and small manufactures loss space that should have been manufacturing space. >> i have two more speaker cards anyone that wants to speak besides these people stands on the sides and we'll call you up please hold our applause this is not an applause show but (calling names) have you all stands on that see of room that would be great any speakers that want to speak. >> i'm bryan a neighbor of the armory live 200 of a even though for the north and a lot of the events the armory does are fine

the haunted house was fine and part of nonprofit and if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them it is the loud events the concert i'm unconcerned about all four events in february and others fence blasting the neighborhood with sound we have our dishes rattling in the apartment and vibrations the building is not a concert venue is it so not instead of solid walls and concourse one wall with basic large windows on the north and south side windows facing west our windows are color in height to the armory and it's doors i have a concern with the issuance the renovation of the upcoming events in the next month raise issues and they should have known better with respect to the

night life i think the mosaic is in size in terms of its capacity the mosaic is an awesome but the conditions on the mosaic and the city officials most recently up to 3 shows a year up to 3:00 a.m. and the music events to about once a week and the mosaic makes it work so i urge you to consider district conditions on the permit and if those conditions are changed do it by the commission level and keep in mind that the objective so allow the armory to have events without disturbing neighbors particularly with this noise thank you. >> thank you. the final speaker cards is eric loyal sorry i've been butching these.

>> sorry good evening president tan i'm the executive director of the free speech coalition as a registered nonprofit we look for organizations and corporate sponsors that are willing to support our work as well as the work of other community-based organizations in a variety of ways the san francisco armory has been an invariable partner and as you may know the true nonprofit organizations that nutrient and support our communities are the ones with the tight it budget the armory has not once turned down a request by other national community partners whether cash donations and often the fees are not lowered but completely waved in other words, to enable organizations to par take

anything else have i found a unique venue who supports those and quite frankly i heard for profits no business what survive without fees keep in mind san francisco is a renowned for creativity and those qualities are what the armory embodied i think it is sad what we did not see what the armory used to look like peter put thousands of dollars but it is important we should learn from mistakes and 3 wrongdoing obviously the plans shown the armory is fixing the issues and not above 8 decimals of sound with that we'll hold them accountability i'm in support for the diversity of the

city thank you. >> (clapping.) all right. please hold our applause let's do the last few speakers please introduce yourselves. >> i'm jason i've been involved in this for 20 years as a promoter i think that peter should have an armory as a music venue but this particular proposal is sorrowfully flawed and as your own historic president with the cities like the war field addressed mosaic indicates also restrictions and always conditions the reason that proposal got this far because sitting in an entertainment commissioner was paid one hundred thousand dollars and preceded to break your own rules regarding lobbying the planning department and your own director and the facts that you - jocelyn kane

knew about that when she told him they couldn't do this it begs the question who the entertainment commission is working for and your values to the city and county of san francisco so i ask you who are you serving the corrupt personal interests of our own commission or the city of san francisco that's what it is about i don't think peter should have a pay the entertainment commission one hundred thousand dollars to have a permit thank you. >> (calling names) state your name. >> i'm keri lynn one of the neighbors and live a block away i agree with the neighbors mostly on having the armory and also say, i personally know individuals at the armory executives and they're up standing poem they mean well, i

want to express a concern, however, not been the noise but about what happens before and after the concerts those julian street a lot of us have to access to get to our homes and parking and get through and i think that from the employees of the arm ronald reagany were out there they would be kind and wonderful but the contractors are setting up and not nice people they block the street with all the trucks and equipment so large a venue that takes a lot of stuff that's my concern i don't want not to have it but restrictions might be in order but otherwise a wonderful neighbor. >> great. thank you very much. >> next speaker. >> good evening, commissioners i'm mike executive director of san francisco heritage we're a nonprofit found in 1971 to

enhance the city's automatic or architecture and cultural this was built in 1914 and listed the national register it is easy to forget for many decades the armory sat vacant and a serious demolition threat that promoted the registration at that point before being purchased it was really by armory studios it was the city's white elephant building from a restoration we feel an exemplar steward as mentioned they've invested millions of dollars with the upkeep and improvement we believe as a fundamental principle that the best way to

safeguard the building so insure an active use in a relevant ground use for the community we feel this permit application will endure a stabilize future that's why we support this application we're proud to be planning our annual bengal la at the armory through a generous donation from peter that made this space available at a highly reduced rate and peter and the armory are supporter of san francisco heritage throughout many years not through just this one event. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello commission i'm scott i work with nonprofits in san francisco i came out to support the folks in front of city hall

we need a chuckle and act on the unit of arts and entertainment the lifeblood of san francisco they've been generous to the nonprofit as the armory w reactivated i recall to be an entertainment court new i understand noise concerns and the company has invested quite a bit in the building and will invest more to address this noise it is refreshing for the first time that is a the senior housing their approaching to get a solution that was groundbreaking to hear that i hope you move forward with a couple of conditions promise the entertainment commission and the local neighbors i used to live in that neighborhood and around the mission it is infinitely improved as far as the traffic and noise concerns those are things that will be problematic

for an entertainment venue but we need a transportation served areas it is an ideal location at that scale we've lost venues we desperately need additional space, and, secondly, they'll not as fond we need more pdrs space preserved but as far as the entertainment permitted we support their plans thank you. >> i'm going to say that he entitled me we're seeing who is most effective if this go forward i'm a mother how many kids are living around that space we're we as adults can handle noise imagine the children that have to go to school the next day 50 or

whatever permits per year they meet once a week that's a lot and if their allowed to do it every day 4 thousand people will be noise everyday our kids will be affected it will be so crazy i don't think that is funny we have bunny areas the children are the ones that are important and i don't think they mean any harm but i g, see they're not understanding when it comes to management but if they want to make an impact more jobs in the community 0 hire people and have this kind of business necessary need to meet with the community and as mentioned to save the mission if they want changes they need to meet with the people that have been working together i work for provide i

remember at that point, we wanted to talk to them this is an invitation they want to meet with me it would be nice to have a conversation and maybe come to an agreement thank you. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment. >> all right. seeing none, public comment is closed i invite back lieutenant if you're still here you are thank you to hear from the police conditions i don't know if there are any modifications i want to make. >> tvpt and commissioners gone lieutenant dave if the san francisco police department the good and the bad the good news we're recommending conditions the bad it is a little bit con assume i'd like to back up i think this process

i think we have to make a distinction between the violation and what's happening tonight there is a due process for the violation he encourage the commission we have documented events that were not allowable that the commission go out and cite themly lets it run the course with that said, that is the practice of the city family to bring businesses into compliance and that's what tonight is about moving forward and bringing it into compliance the other part i want to speak briefly to there's a lot of chart about the number of events that occurred i can speak to the police department records i am or time to be specific most of my records are specifically with alcohol components that's the easiest to track not exclusive but giving a sampling of what is

going our records show from the first event with an alcohol component july of 2012 and the most recent february 6, 201624/7 that span there were 16 events of the 16 events based on the interpretation by the commission 12 of those didn't need an entertainment permit two needed an entertainment permit and they got them and two needed treatment permits and didn't get them i'm not saying that is all inclusive but gives a sense the other thing i want to point out i am sympathetic have not community but have to look at the total body of work here everyone seems to be speaking specifically about the

events in february and i want to be candid i've been at this for over 15 years to have an operator fall on a knife and is we made a bad choices it is not seen they didn't get up here i'm giving a prospective my experience we get a litany of skews and not get the reason they did what at the accident i like that the police department we are familiar with those mucky waters spent a lot of time for the nature of the work we need a working relationship i heard a group we can work what i'm confident in that so with that said, i think - i wrote down a couple of quotes from public speeches resonated

with the vast majority of people something like that like this is what i'm hearing none want this place not to succeed the objective to allow the armory without disturbing the neighboring neighbors i think the second one is a great goal but i've got to tell you managing events it is daunting not to impact the neighborhood i don't ever want to say the police department is saying it wouldn't impact the neighborhoods those are the desert if we do our due diligence we work, work each time and make it better the next week time if there is genuine coordination between the police and commission and the community and, of course, the operators with that said, i do want to speak to the conditions ear recommending tonight i want to mention that's one thing i heard

people are not opposed there are people but most are saying not not a condition a blank check before i get is that the public understands the role of the police department we're here tonight to lend our expertise to the process but a recommendation to the commission the authority rest with all of you so in the end your determination but we're hoping to help guide you and bring some sounds like voice to the process my first thing i want to brings you think the armory has agreed to 9 sequences i'm not sure their read into the record has that been done. >> would you like me to do that or - >> i mean do you want i'm amending some of those this is relevant. >> why not.

>> can i run over them real quick so everyone understands those are the conditions the armory is volunteering obviously the good neighbor policy and condition two no extended hours except for pride and halloween for calendar year 2016 and condition 39 security cameras outside the building 2 across the street on another building owner and operated by the armory 5 them in main a lot about and available to police department twenty-four hours i want to speak to that that was brought the armory has made video available to the police department and that would be helpful in our ongoing investigations and condition four power washer sidewalks

greater than 5 hundred persons and loot monthly and 5 emt open site including transport for 7 or more persons and 6 redundant phone calls for one for the manager and another directly to our security desk and number 7 notify the commissioners 2 weeks prior to the events and 8 keep the neighbors awe brisz with a quarterly news letter and the last condition have a security guard posted on the corner of wood ward and providing security after public events greater than nine hundred person excuse me - thirty minutes after the event end i repeat those are from the armory not from the police department. >> okay. so this is the

police departments recommendation and you'll have to bear with me the police department is not opposing the application with the following conditions condition number one is we request to amend the armories condition number two to the extend hours the police department agreed the premise is allowed nor more than three extended event per calendar year and events information shall be provided instead of identifying the events by name they ask for 3 events we're recommending the 3 approved with that language. >> can i ask our staff do we currently have an stent hours permit are replanning on amending that. >> no. >> purely treatment

entertainment. >> they can apply if a public safety and brought from the community opposition what happens after 2016. >> okay. let me clarify with the staff can we condition a mraepgs to talk about the policies that's weird. >> we're a city that's weird. >> that seems like not kosher. >> we need for the record this is a permit for the police code that the directive is to 1070 i think as staff were clear on the spirit of this instruction though maybe when you get to the

point of making a motion you can turn it technologically technically what you want to be the spirit. >> got it. >> through the process. >> got it. >> president tan what if it phrased in the event they will i for that's a significant issue for the department and i agree with the executive directors we're all working the spirit but i think this lends historical value if it is on the document if and when they apply for a 1070 we can say 4 years ago aau you agreed to apply for 3 it is speaking to the spirit of relationship. >> sure. >> the credibility and it's assuming the applicants will concur with that i'll add this is coming from them they're bringing it forward i'm

reediting it. >> excellence argument is there a procedure and what they're actually applying for we get the spirit you can move on. >> okay amend the armories condition to read as following pressure washing the sidewalk shall be done after the events with an occupancy of 10 occupant or more the people are not concerned if they want to clean before the event but the department suggests they reverse that and condition 3 the priest some sure an event days a attendees vehicles on 14th street on the 14th street entrance does for the block the street and is kept orderly and moving after all dropout minimizing the drop out for a

management will be achieved the onsite security and event staff condition number 4 amend condition number 7 that speaks to entertainment commission notification to as follows: the proximity proximity he dwifsh it by private or ticketed concert performer and anticipated staffing and availability of collaborate service and any other important consideration unique to that event all notifications made nevertheless, 2 weeks prior to the event and condition number 5 the

departments other recommended conditions first of all, i want to speak to the applicants when they referred so as their sound plan slide with 6 goals that will be taking place with the sounds like continuation and resolving the sound issue the department requests that is completed and inspected by the commission in advance of an ordinance of a final permit and two a question to the commission the permit i didn't this they'll do the pained windows there is - there guess overwhelm support for the

double pain windows and the commission has the power to say okay move forward but sounds like they'll do all of this and the next condition we'll recommend any time non-permit i didn't sounds like amplified equipment is and premise the permit i didn't shall maintain the authority to can't read my own writing to adjust the vacuum with thebbpermit i didn't shalln the authority to can't read my own writing to adjust the vacuum with the[[permit i didn't shall maintain the authority to can't read my own writing to adjust the vacuum with thezzpermit i d maintain the authority to can't read my own writing to adjust the vacuum with thepermit i did the authority to can't read my own writing to adjust the vacuum with the program the permit i didn't shall maintain controlling the sounds like and

emanating from attendees and or amplified equipment next condition this is amending their condition number 9. >> all the security shall maintain onsite thirty minutes past the crowd is completely and safely disperses for the quiet departure of the aprons and side need should patrol an ear in response than 200 feet in all directions. >> did you say an amount of time. >> thirty minutes. >> or until the crowd is dispersed safely maybe longer.

>> and i'm point out that condition applies to events of 5 hundred or more to continue a security guard shall be posted thirty minutes prior to the start of event and thirty minutes after the succession i'll defer to your expertise wood ward was one and public comment on de bois. >> julian. >> julian is that - argue during the performance security maybe moved eased needed to the events death but staffing before and after shall be as prescribed and i hope not with those conditions

commissioners we're not obtaining in the application commissioners you have questions just real quick if needed would you meet with them and discuss those conditions with them iron out any wriblz. >> absolutely that's absolutely our option and i did omit one last condition that is if in the event this is approved tonight the final security plan is reviewed by the commission or staff and the police department and we sign off on that i wanted to add that last one. >> no problem just a comment on a couple of them all permits we provide are not can't be used until the sounds like tests by the inspectors so we set a limit at a decimal level and not 8 above

that i -- i realize that a lot of the argument is based on the 6 items their commented to do i'm trying to link that actually happens we'll have staff go in their and sign off. >> our staff will not until they're ready to pass the test but as a condition the double pained windows we'll ask them to come back and speak but any sounds like continuation they do still goes by that decimal over ambient the idea whatever they do they can put bubble wrap around it if that works. >> it works i'm speaking - i think there is times we want to add more just to make sure that happens and times we can trust that the policy that is there will be enough so in this

somewhere we may need to put more i'm point out that. >> absolutely. >> any other questions for our police no thank you very much thank you. >> thank you for that thoughtful conditioning and listening to the public as well all right. commissioners the matter is now in our hands i know we've heard a lot from the applicants and any questions you want the applicants to come up and answer at this point. >> the cat err they still here they're part of public. >> oh, i thought there was one person oh, i'm questioning when you have 18 and over event it is strictly no alcohol at all the

i'm curious. >> we need someone from the actual venue as the part of your presentation. >> one second. >> no problem as to clarify the question you're asking how do we separate when we do a 21 and over; is that correct. >> great what we do is we double up so with our line management the first one we do first first one is the ireland and those folks who are 18 and over we get huge black x and others receive wristbands we use

bbc to assist with that they have a full onsite activation team that helps. >> you don't separate the bar. >> this area is only for 21 and the rest is 18 do you do that or entering mix everybody together. >> the past so we have the last two events typically what we want to do primarily is stick with either 21 and up is what we focus on. >> about sounds like not a 21 and over area. >> oh, area. >> 18s can minimal with the 21. >> how do you monitor an 18-year-old from drinking or a 21-year-old passing a drink besides the staff and the security and in conjunction with

b b c because they've been doing this for 27 years a professional service that the id at the bar and before you get in that's how we manage that. >> basically our reilly on them to do all the work their licensed they are responsible but you know, i want to let you know that more security will be needed. >> oh, absolutely, yes we're not relying on beverage partner but rely on the security team and our venue staff and the facility team to manage that process. >> fords there is plenty of 18 and over venues they're not teenage. >> president tan and commissioners lieutenant daycare i want to quibble respond you'll not none the conditions reflect

collaborate they're not applying for a bbc licensee want to point out every time they apply for a permit that goes to the mission station commissioner lee you want to see cups for alcohol and distinguish the age we'll be adding at the time for the special event or nonprofit permit that will not go unnoticed but couldn't happen ♪ forum >> great, thank you. >> all right. commissioners so we have a decision to make before we kind of discuss it further make that clear that the vice chair audry has recused because her name came up she's employed by the venue and has no part to grant the permit or not so a belief there is now that we

have heard everyone i'm interested to see what kind of motion people want to make or a discussion you want to put out there the purpose of education to the public any permit entertainment commission it comes up generally comes with a 2:00 a.m. sunday to saturday and monday through sunday's 7 days a week i think you see that most permit holders and people fear concerts happening dozens of people walking thrgh the mission based on our experience with the permitted live venues that's not necessary always the case but the conditions we put on them to try to address concerns that neighborhood have and concerns we as a a commission to insure the safety of both the patrons

we faced with sort of what have people done in the past and the future oftentimes there is a night club extinguisher a venue that there's a bad operator and in comes new management and owners they're able to clean up i think this is a little bit of a unique scenario they have a restricted permit they're trying to expand but i think that to their credit we should think with the totality of their experience within as an operator not only what happened recently this is the unpermitted event are egregious when they say they'll make improvements to sound thaichlts that's one of the things i'm concerning as i make

the vote not the same venue when you make hundreds of thousands of dollars improvement in sound improvements and sound continuation and security so it is not quite comparing the same thing look at what they did in the past but made the improvements for the future with that, we have a lot of conditions to consider and i think we can take or leave some or add some commissioners any thoughts. i want to add a couple basic things first, the sounds like check when that happens it backs impacts the neighbors in the right direction i want the sounds like inspector to go go to their facility not only the venue but see the impacts of the neighbor that is adjacent to that on all four corners wherever you find the neighbors the outdoor security i like to

add on to anybody outside they/have brightly colored jacketed to the police and public knows who is there and no confusion. >> just like no doubt that you know they're providing jobs they're helping the community and paying their taxes all that and they are trying to be responsible owners i think as any old venue that had problems and new owners take over we give them an opportunity to pass the screwed up thing about that is that unpermitted situations and we will deal with that separately i'm sure but about public trust that's why everyone is here i don't hear anyone that didn't want the armory to open

but definitely security questions whether management can handle and even the questions eave asked wasn't like bang, bang, bang i kind of want to see a better lieutenant said about the new security plan the security plan is good but didn't caterer to your venue needs to be tweaked anyway, that's the things i have to add to the permit and there's you know. >> so wasn't sort of offered up as a self-imposed operation do - there any interest in limiting that >> sorry can you repeat that i

was daydreaming conditions in the venue itself not really aside from the extended hours i'm sorry limitations on the days and hours they operate we've done that the past i mentioned the mosaic but plenty of examples of places we say from monday to wednesday or monday to thursday your operating weekend a different level i see heads nodding so. >> yeah. i definitely go along with the thought and i have a question if we were to do that overflow room and see how it operates and works can we extend it or they have to come through the process to get a extend. >> that's a good question. >> staff want to respond. >> yeah. to change the conditions they'll come back to this commission.

>> so it is not as i said it is not as simple as a notice and then a neighborhood outreach process but is this a public meeting they'll come back for the purview to exchange the conditions. >> so our saying week days limited hours on a 6 month trial and once they do that come back and see what works. >> that's what you're saying correct. >> to parts life imprisonment the days and housing. >> differentiating between week days and hours and i've heard 6 months or some other period of time where it is sort of like a trial run they come back to us. >> i want to support that they as the communities the operators can gain the communities trust

and show their offering in good faith additional 6 months come back and we'll talk about expanding it. >> just a point of clarification the condition can't say include the 6 months but you can instruct staff to bring them back to commission if they want to change their condition. >> right. >> okay and then president you talked about you know sometimes, we give permits and an open ended permit they can run as many event is there a but a or way to limit the number of events or limit the number of absence asbestos license permit. >> the commission has wide latitude and the timing conditions you can put on a permit just cautiously speaking

through whether their enforceable or not as you may know staff needs to be able to enforce those things so i think noubz of events certainly is plausible we don't issue as you may know an absence license so know i'm not sure this is respondent to the complaint necessarily but again, you have lewd to do what you wish. >> if we can limit the number of events and limit the number of abc licensed events if we say they can only run 50 they can only run 50 getting a license is different animal but only tell them 50 events and abc licensed events they have to follow our provisions; right? >> not -

>> necessarily yes. >> maybe law students help that's separate you know what i'm saying i'm not sure exactly sure how you'll man that process. >> president tan lieutenant dave this is unique in their using one day permits understanding we'll be deferring to the entertainment commission somewhat quasi as the planning department so i mean if you have a condition saying they're allowed 10 place of entertainment permit within an acholic beverage component they're asking for the 11 the pd will recommend no the executive director i have to be candid we're dealing with the enforcement they'll defer to us

that's an enforceable condition if it get permanently licensed that's another beast for abc. >> i'll wonder i think that shows you one example of what we do i didn't hear complaints of alcohol being with the events that are thrown i heard complaints of raised events we don't have the eludes of programming. >> right you can't do ad m only bluegrass, etc. so what we can do is enforce the hours and days and possibly alcohol a number of alcohol events - >> i have a question there seems to be a lot of conditional

changes unless maggie is taking great note give the applicant a chance to chew on this once we endorse this you have to live with that and as. >> can you come back up. >> from what you've heard presented by the lieutenant and the discussion do we have any issues with any of that. >> would you like time to think about it. >> the conditions that lieutenant went through i believe we are totally fine with i didn't and my apologies if i didn't hear the commission. >> we didn't set a number yet. >> you're here if you want us we'll listen and talk if you have a proposal we'll come back. >> i was more curious.

>> i understand. >> okay. >> all right. commissioners let's put some numbers and conditions we have a full agenda. >> i'd like to suggest in terms of limiting the hours from sunday to wednesday that the event will end at midnight and from thursday to saturday it goes to 2:00 a.m. >> so sunday to wednesday midnight, thursday, saturday, 2:00 a.m. >> thursday through saturday. >> all right. so let's we can start codifying in a motion so can someone move something and add if there is something missing. >> so it sounds like the motion will be to approve the

permit with. >> police conditions. >> the modified self-imposed conditions by the police i wrote down not but did maggie write down notes as well with the police conditions and we'll reads them all back in addition to limiting the hours of operation to midnight sunday through wednesday and until 2:00 a.m. thursdays and saturdays; is that correct. >> no motion yet. >> if from mondays happens to be a holiday will we be open to extending that time. >> commissioners thoughts. >> like sunday. >> i mean a legal holiday and everybody is off sure perhaps sunday. >> all right. so monday you're saying thursday

to saturday and holidays until 2:00 a.m. legal holidays? all right. >> then the night before a legal how wide for example, memorial day would be available to be open until 2:00 a.m. >> great okay. so if this is clear can someone move that and take a vote. >> so moved. >> so moved. >> is there a second. >> second. >> second would be due get my amendment okay sorry. >> well, do you have an amendment. >> the sound like check and the neighbors no, i didn't get that what are you adding way u and when we had had sound like check the adjacent neighbors are satisfied as long as we're in compliance there is also the neighbor gets a chance to be a part of that.

>> director kane a post of information if there are neighbors present here tonight that wants to participate in that action that you're describing commissioner lee we need the contact information we are unable to assess tare home we can't move forward. >> all right. so i move that anyone here that wants and impacted by this venue be part of sound check have to check in with staff for full information the past we had problems with that okay. so that's one and brightly colored jackets for security. >> this is the most calibrated condition of a preempt we've ever had. >> do you want maggie to read the inspire motion. >> yes. please.

anyone else. >> i think lieutenant i'll need for help with the verbiage could you i'll give it a try all right. so condition number with the 13 conditions for the good neighbor policy number 2 let's see. >> 3 expend hours. >> yeah nor more than three spent hours without permits per year and they'll need to send the information to the police department and the entertainment commission regarding those. >> no less than two weeks in advance of event. >> and calendar year. >> okay so number 3 is to pour wash sidewalks at public events more than 5 hundred persons the day after any events 5 hundred

persons or more. >> that's the day after if he wanted to do that the day before. >> this is about traffic and not blocking the street making sure that is kept orderly and there's a traffic flow management for queuing. >> correct the way we wrote it the permit i didn't the before the premises on 14th street in front of a four-story entrance kept orderly and keep movng after drop off the queuing will be achieved through the use of onsite. >> number 4 notify the mission police station and the entertainment commission of upcoming events

before 2 weeks and include all the following information including the type of event. >> to distinguish between private or ticketed concert that came from the community performer or event title and the anticipated security staffing and anticipated occupancy and chofg service and lastly any important situations to the events no more than 2 weeks of occurrence of the event. >> next is the continuation needs to be completed before the issues the sound of the event after sounds like equipment the permit i didn't should maintain the authority over sound equipment at all times any more

specifics. >> yours was amazing but i couldn't get all of that. >> that works. >> okay. >> the next one was very in regards to promoter. >> they have difficulty controlling the equipment in the event the promoters brings in their own equipment the armory controls that indemnity if it says turn it down they canned sorry, sorry it's our equipment and a security guard posted on the corner of wood ward and 14th street and providing security for thirty minutes after the events or the crowd is dispersed in an area no longer 200 feet in all directions. >> i believe that president tan added julian street. >> which i think that right

whatever. >> a buffer anyway and so wood ward and 14th street and as well as julian street okay. then we have the final security plan needs to be approved by the sfpd. >> correct. >> and then we have add in from commissioner lee including sounds like test be performed in neighbors homes that wanted them to be part of sounds like check next we have security needs to wear brightly covered jackets. >> commissioner lee i have a quick suggestion we have an security should be readily identified as said bright colors is nice too security. >> yeah. you want them readily identifiable not wearing a pull

pin. >> and finally we have we're adopting the restrictions on hours sunday to wednesday where only allowing attempt until telephone a.m. and thursday through saturday 2:00 a.m. and allowing treatment on legal holidays that. >> midnight before. >> midnight before a legal holiday. >> great, thank you it will be interesting to go through later. >> the motion was from commissioner perez the second i believe from commissioner caminong. >> okay. >> so. >> are we open for discussion or a motion we have to vote. >> if there is a motion you have to vote and he, he we can if we don't have a majority we have to have another motion.

>> i was thinking an event until midnight or an event through wednesday and ending on thursday, you you know when something ends at 12 o'clock is continues past midnight that concerns me it was up to me i think 10 o'clock wasn't going for applause that's my feelings 10 o'clock sound there monday and for the two friday and saturday. >> hold your applause you're putting out there comments commissioners. >> what were the hours that internal revenue out of restrictions we used with the

mosaic auditorium. >> good question i don't know we have that. >> i remember bryan has it. >> do you can you come and answer that question. >> i do like 11:00 p.m. >> a huge document not something we want to model after. >> we're getting close with all the conditions. >> okay. so a conditional of approval has been added all week nights and by 11:00 p.m. and all weekend events let me start a condition of approval have been adam all week night events and end by 11:30 we'll allow the project sponsor so seek from the

police department and the entertainment commission for up to 3 events per calendar year extending until one a.m. that's what the mosaic has. >> well, we noted the mosaic was yes, ma'am broeltd in a legal battle may occur it in situation that was a product of intense negotiations that are around the table rather than the decision of commission. >> president tan i was involved with that one as well those are not apples to apples their different spaces and different communities. >> all right. so we have the question answered we can modify the proposal until i'm sorry midnight monday to wednesday and that we can take a vote i think i would prefer to

do this to move along if you don't like those. >> can i offer a friendly amendment. >> you made the motion is that a friendly amendment. >> yes. >> is that a friendly amendment to the second. >> the change of time to 10. >> wait we haven't set a time. >> in the interest of time i'm sorry a there is a motion and a second we need to vote on the motion as it is and if it fails. >> we can. >> make an additional motion you can't change it. >> do what you're doing. >> i can't make a friendly amendment to the motion and this is very complicated i wanted this process to be as clear as possible i'd rather for the record vote on one second it and

then might have from there. >> go forward. >> fair enough so on that motion let's take a vote commissioner frost no commissioner lee no commissioner perez commissioner woo ho no commissioner caminong commissioner thomas president tan the motion does not pass let's take another motion. >> okay. i want to in the interest of time i want to change the time to end at 10:00 p.m. on week nights. >> so week nights at 10:00 p.m. >> i have a friendly amendment i'd like to change it to 11. >> huh? how do. >> is there a second if not we'll take a new motion. >> is there a second all right. another motion.

>> that will be to 11 and up to wednesday, thursday will be midnight and then friday and saturday to 2. >> all right. so. >> you got that. >> sunday to wednesday to 11, thursday until midnight. >> i'd like to have. >> friday and saturday and legal holidays to 2. >> after they get their permit if after 6 months staff move forward to change that something different. >> after. >> all right. people understand that motion. >> all other motioned with stand is there a second to that motion. >> i'll second. >> all right. a second great let's take a vote so that on the motion to amend

the final condition to read that sunday to wednesday and treatment ends at 11:00 p.m. and thursday at midnight and friday and saturdays ends at 2:00 a.m. and prior to legal sunday's and holidays to 2:00 a.m. >> commissioner frost no commissioner lee commissioner perez no commissioner caminong commissioner thomas president tan. >> that item passes thank you very much for everyone coming out we'll move on to the next agenda item. >> you want excuse me - you want to give it 5 minutes to clear the room. >> sure

good work. >> i'm to recess us for 5 minutes unt he will reconvene thanks for sitting there that whoever is left in the crowd we'll move on to item 2 which is the approval of the minutes of february 16th and march first more exciting than we dealt with. >> february 16 first? >> sure i'm having to take a motion. >> i make a motion we accept the minutes second any public comment on our

minutes nope let's take a vote i believe i was present at that meeting. >> i believe we were present at that meeting. >> with that, amendment schauft commissioner lee commissioner perez commissioner caminong i abstain i was not present commissioner thomas. >> president tan those minutes pass is there a motion for the march first meeting minutes. >> there's a mistake i don't know it is a mistake present at the meeting dorsey absent were dorsey so- incorrect march 15

should be the first. >> i'm looking at my says march first. >> mine said march 15. >> i have 15 on it my name is not on it. >> i think we should postpone or get the same copy of minutes. >> maybe we have 3 sets? no. >> i have march 15. >> yeah. i have the february 16th and march 15 minutes. >> you don't have the march first minutes. >> i have march first not the 15. >> i don't have march first at

all. >> march first is on this on the agenda if you don't have march first, you can't vote on march first. >> let's continue that is there a motion to continue. >> move to continue the minutes for march first. >> i second same house, same call? no public comment i can't do same house, same call? commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner perez commissioner caminong commissioner thomas and president tan. >> all right. that motion is continued the respect the staff and executive director. >> commissioners hello i will try to be short update on prevention introduced i've spoken we issued some legislation by supervisor wiener's office to clean up the

codes sections mostly related to the 9 month time it takes i think i've described before it is basically clean up language i wanted to report the commission met on the april of 18 no issues and again wants a copy i'll be happy to but we've heard nothing from anyone that is a simple clean up language and the other update is regarding the chapter online submission of disclosure notification which is live i don't know if i've sent this on our website it is ocean 8 now we had a meeting with the apartment

association who handle a large number of these buildings who are going to be required are required to do notification now whether there are residents that move or turnover within three hundred feats of an entertainment issue and folks in this department are able to do this and keep our fingers crossed it wouldn't e won't crash so if someone calls to complain we'll see if their notified properly that is good news it weighs on me heavily and i wrote into the report an update on non-traditional alcohol licenses want to mentioned that while there's not

been anything before you formally heartens some time ago with the lieutenant sorry i'll not get that right was in large part responsible for with supervisor mar office to talk about the chief financial officer breach or beverages like starbuck's and taco bell fast food could be anything their businesses all over the country are looking to increase revenue for us if we set a staff level gain at some point i imagine we'll come back to you formally this is more of a small business concern than it is to determine news alcohol those businesses came to san francisco and many of them and all over the neighborhoods and one thing

now they'll turn it into something else there is a resolution in front of the board of supervisors talking about urging the abc to deny those licenses not something the city can do much more that resolution at this point is scheduled for the 12 of april i understand and again, it is an o.j. kind of resolution staff is planning on meeting with the planning department so see if anything can be done by land use essentially so maybe find a stronger way to send a message for not allow this kind of thing to prolific we've sends them move the slush i didn't see in place their business model are

advertising the delivery no concern for the outcome and it is not a good thing as far as i'm concerned, i wanted to let you you know and nothing to report on the corrective action side. >> justin one thing we want to talk about now how to deal with the violation the armory had with their event so is there a course of action is planned around that at this point? >> well, i i mean i work for you from the commission feels that it is important to issue notice of violations or citations we certainly can do that we did that prior to events

many times. >> any thoughts from commissioners. >> just the normal if this happens has it happened the past someone has come in before us asking for a permit and they through an event prior to getting if permit has it happened in the past. >> it absolutely has happened. >> what action is taken against. >> like typically we don't necessarily through a notice of violation the mail for the event we take it at the commission if in this particular case something more egregious or problematic go down that road of corrective action that's why it is called corrective agency we're trying to get compliance and all the agency work towards compliance we're not trying to punish anyone with the notice of

violation it is a notice again, i serve at our pleasure if there is a corrective action you times the staff to do. >> i'll feel comfortable issuing a citation because we do want people in compliance that is one of my main goals here but on this thing they knew what they were doing it was a business decision i understand it is like the delivery guy decided to double park but i think that i personally don't feel okay with letting it pass without issuing them a citation. >> just to clarify it was 3 unpermitted one permitted and 3 unpermitted; is that correct. >> i think that was two.

>> two unpermit. >> i was looking at the paperwork the only permit was for the 12. >> not the 13 and not the 26 and 27. >> right so it sounds like there weren't the permit issue. >> one permit for one night and 3 events. >> so. >> i am not four events. >> they violated the code twice is that what you're trying to clarify. >> they have 4 events and one permit for one event. >> 3 events. >> one but two was not - >> i was with the understanding commissioner thomas i thought what it was they had a permit for the one and then they did. >> two more. >> yeah, but i think one of them was a two-day events maybe that's why we have the xhuchgs.

>> to clarify from the armory told me they had an events on the 12 which we permitted and also after the fact on the 26 and 27 rumor from the neighbors it was on the 13 i was not able to verify that i didn't get a noise complaint after the 12 or 13 if they held one on the 13 i honestly don't know. >> another question it happened in one month would we issue one citation one or how do we generously go that. >> generally, if we are referring to the 26 and 27 if i notice an event being held without a permit on the 26 i'll issue a notice of violation and

then for the following day a citation and the amount of $50. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> yeah. i feel more comfortable with a historical memory they were taken action against. >> we have that power it is what it is so. >> i don't think we need to voted i wanted to direct the staff to issue a notice of violation and a citation i brought it up to discuss it we didn't get to discuss but but let's move on unless other things people want to ask great. >> thank you president tan. >> commissioners good evening a few things to notify you about

we have a new complainant in the complaint didn't column on 21st street browns this meeting he received a complaint questionnaire back didn't go both a lot of detail but follow-up with the operators as the complainant to sheds light on what they're doing i'll do that and refer back to the next meeting we have are formal complaint about 13 polk and have been but as you see from the sounds like inspections i went by the past two weekends and trying to track at what level they need to be in compliance with city code i determined this past weekend they'll need to

renovate, upgrade their sound system and components to insure this we have the proper control over the system to equalize and prevent djs from sxooed the limit we're currently in discussion and ho hoping to have that prepared by this weekends a couple of sounds tests trolley california and the recording studio we have finally gotten a complaint about someone from someone not claimed unanimous status 311 hoping to get more information from them and sent auto a questionnaire to that complained working with a neighbor of the regency ballroom across the street sutter street at the

apartments so two 3 big ongoing investigations one right now with the ballroom and working closely with the neighborhood and operator there one that public works on eerie and mission and duo boss and working closely with the operators we're going to go in this weekend and i've done residential testing there and then at playlands as well with the residential testing so pretty intense thorough investigations for those 3 venues and then i continue to work with the mission police department with the players on the sidewalk varies by weekends sometimes nothing and sometimes a four

piece band and someone playing in front of the restaurant i do believe that wraps for me i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> anyone has. >> have you heard from players. >> i've been by there is not thank you. >> good news. >> laura. >> all right. inspector pauley you're up. >> good evening, commissioners inspector pauley reporting the in the interest of time i'll kind of you know just quickly go over the compliance stops i've about say quiet in my district so basically what i've focused on is looking at issues or

checking for inclines were there were issues before for instance, the basement had noise i've recorded about you know went we there several times and stopped by in in front i've not received complaint usually an issue i'll receive a complaint but nevertheless, stopped by multiple times on the 26 most recently and otherwise in compliance the same with eden beggar castle and one of the issues a lot of noise on the sidewalks or whatever i checked for if everything was fine we received police complaints about hugh in regards to foot traffic and things to of that nature during the layout it is normal what goes on there the broadly

foot traffic and they're in compliance with tsame thing neighbors complaining about the noise of the venue exclaimed about after hours they're committed to it it that is a non-issue and the complanlts they're starting to talk and hopefully the action is pending if it didn't resolve someone will sway the situation with one way or another one violation 1015 fulsome did an event they did a regular night and accident a popular urban artist and the sidewalks were swam i didn't and one of the streets were blocked it is in a regular curtains but nevertheless, i wrote them a notice of violation for that and

we talked to them stein and the security personnel and the general manager and the owner of venue we're all in agreement that maybe the program they should try with without due diligence whatever taking more time they don't have a situation i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you any public comment on the staff report. >> all right. seeing none, public comment is closed move on to item 4 any police questions or comments today all right. we don't have any we'll move on to item 5 thank you for your patience everyone our first permit our next permit is at the water tavern i'll pass it to the director. >> all right. how second permit this evening is for a limited live performance for a

new restaurant and bar think port property on franzwa calls at water tavern has a secondary use and entertainment as 10:00 p.m. daily with wedding receptions and live music and distancing and private parties and jazz brunch the owners have down outreach to the neighborhood associations and permitted applications senior property manager with the ports elliott reilly has recommended approving incorporating the ports lease with the tenants as exhibit a and permits approval as well as recommending the good neighbor policy and further the station approves the application with 14 attached continues you'll see here to tell you more

about this permit application our the owner john cain and business partnering so paul. >> good evening president tan and commissioner i'm paul i'll john cain's partner at at water tafrmg tavern a restaurant and bar only have attempt as maggie described i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> we're very appreciative of your time and learned a lot the last couple of hours in the entertainment business (laughter) i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> have you seen the police conditions and do you alleging agree them.

>> my partner john has and agrees you're the old jelly spot. >> my partner was in the entertainment business and has a permits that's who we are. >> okay commissioners any more questions does the police want to speak about this no any public comment on at water tavern. >> all right. so commissioners happen to entertain a motion. >> most of those police conditions with kind of redundant for the good neighbor policy the only thing i see that i catch is sfpd shall be notified one week prior to the events date i haven't looked the rest

of them thoroughly but they all look like they're part of the good neighbor policy to begin with i don't know if we need to include them. >> but you, you guys pick out the ones you think we need to add. >> commissioners any, any thoughts about changing this i don't think so do we normally includes all of these if their redundancy we try to strip them but. >> you guys have adopted this is - yeah, the same person does those conditions for almost all.

>> i'll make the motion to accept the - approve approve thank you with the conditions that the - the police conditions. >> great a second. >> second. >> all right. let's take a votes. >> on the motion to approve the port and police conditions. >> as well as the port conditions. >> to clarify that note. >> can he ask if you're okay. are the ports conditions as well. >> sure. >> president tan commissioners we're in agreement with the port regarding the conditions so, yes we accept them. >> thank you i'd like to amend my motioned to approve with both the port and

the police conditions. >> second. >> on the motion for the at water tavern for the port and police conditions commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner perez commissioner caminong commissioner thomas and president tan. >> the motion passes thank you that was nice and quick the next it tech bar and kitchen. >> okay our final permit this evening for the place of entertainment for the bar and mission on van ness the permit is a restaurant and lounge that serves wine and beer and hosts the djs and sometimes hosts live jazz and blues huks 5 to 10:00 p.m. mondays to friday and northern station approved that are the good neighbor policy and

a stimulation inform party buses lout as conditions to the permit they'll talk about the hex kitchen here are ron and roger. >> president tan and commissioners congratulations on that last hearing i do think you did a good job on how much tv anyway roger the owners of the new business hex bar and kitchen the medium sized restaurant located on the corner of pacific along the van ness has an occupancy of one and 28 people it currently has held the entertainment licenses for or 3 innarrations this building is a first story building to the

south by a large give i didn't ruby garage next is a auto body shop and a number of auto body transmission this is a highly commercial and industrial area the in the matter residents is towards polk street this particular location has held a 46 license that was sold off and the clients are currently applying for a type 41 beer and wine license food on the premises could be overseen by chief sheryl who is a note chief and carter she carted the mayors daughter last year and will have the

truthfully fries and muscle and similar types of fair the entertainment is purely with lounge experience there is an in house system with the performed the last time this permit was issued for the previous business and the entertainment commission sounds like tests set and sound limit on the locked amplifier and that is still in the amount fir and active the securities will be run by a licensed and card they'll provide this security and a as per code one security person for

80 persons on page 2 refers to the type 47 licenses this is an railroad type 41 for outreach we've been in conversation with the new wanting of the polk association and joining that group we have been with the auto body shop communication and the give i didn't - we've regard they're new auto body program to seek out any issues and my clients are here to answer

anything and basically, we're asking a condition of approval. >> you're not currently operating it. >> no. >> the license is probably the abc license from they're slow. >> it said in the path a poe extended hours is there a reason. >> the plan it be more of a restaurant and club not a bar. >> they don't intend on operating too late. >> i think the food services are what 9. >> great. >> other questions commissioners yeah, that's the past. >> it is a limited live permit. >> this is for a poe.

>> oh, a poe. >> it is location had a poe for a while. >> can i ask a question. >> sure. >> i know that is super out of the ordinary i wonder if you - over the years and there were problems across the street the parking area more than anything else that stuck in my mind from a stand point a problem and i'm just completely inappropriate to be asking us maybe i can ask you to have someone ask. >> she's talking about the cbs that was a lot of brawls the

heights was closed at at least 6 years ago but the memory lane was on it was quite a crazy venue. >> so you're not doing to be like that. >> not more questions so open up for police statements all right. known other there for public comment i assume no public comment public comment is closed. >> commissioners someone have a motion. >> move approval with the condition. >> so move forward to approve with condition. >> the police condition as stated. >> no party buses great. >> what it says in there it says recommended the above

complanltd can't accept the buses can we stipulate they can't. >> again, i mean if so is enforceable i feel like we can do our best to keep the compliance with the conditions like that it you know can be i don't know given more explanation a certain type of a party bus is a big term your discussing people come do venues in all kinds of. >> limb designs and something like that if you're trying to eliminate you might want to give us more subscription what you you mean by the party bus we think we may know what we're

talking about we may or may not. >> how about an occupancy. >> sounds like not a well-defined to be enforceable one would be off i recommend we leave off the condition as enforceable and ask the staff to or have a more in depth conversation. >> there is a routine you know and not really a beer and wine license. >> yeah. those are unusual. >> it is a recommended kind of leaves the door open a little bit but you know, i think that is to do all that. >> can i ask a question during my time on the commission i've not seen a police recommendation is that commonly. >> it used to be very common

because the use felt that kind of transportation trickling on broadway was you know probably i don't know now two weeks ago and it was a common way to bring patience from outside of the city primary into the city because of a variety of designations i've seen less and less and less of that third-world country i've seen it in conditions it is a tough one to manage 55 an entertainment permit. >> it was crazy with broadway with the parties buses that's why the district captain did was went around to the bars and told him he would appreciate if they didn't accept parties buses it cleaned up and alleviated the problems but i agree with the

way the venue is changing from a club type with the beer and wine it is not necessary for this permit. >> all right. so a motion unless you want to change our motion. >> my motion is that we approve this permit but leave off the police recommendation regarding party buses. >> with the party with the good neighbor policies got it. >> i'll second. >> all right. >> on that motion for the kitchen with the good neighbor policy commissioner frost commissioner perez commissioner lee commissioner caminong commissioner thomas and president tan

that item passes good luck are redeal with the bay area opera houses. >> we remember going to but the applicant e-mails the middle of the last of the permit saying they completely forth i ask the commission to continue those to the next meeting can i get a motion. >> i make a motion to continue the opera house to the next meeting. >> second. >> all right. any public comment no commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner perez commissioner caminong commissioner thomas president tan. >> that item passes next thing on the agenda is consent calendar so this is a newer item for us i believe we continued it from

the last merging in order to have more information i did include in our pages commissioners just the project sponsor form a nice review the project and their outreach a map so as you can see where they are and then i think i include a condition as well i sent to the planning department after the meeting and in some of the cases we needed to move those along they were not going to make if in time in theory they will come faster before i sent the conditions as you can see i don't know if you're seeing them an e-mail format i used to refer to the conditions the generic set of conditions and it was in

your package you see the general conditions as well as the conditions that the rdr committee automobile accident all see that that's what the work the competent is doing and anyone has net yet to come to the meeting they're important and we're getting better at them this is front of the you as consent the 3 were heard i guess in february. >> yeah. as. >> these are once a month i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> but this is calendared as one vote. >> issue. >> anyone want to make a motion to approve the consent items. >> i'll make the motion to approve the consent items.

>> second. >> second. >> any further questions all right. any public comment? >> can i take same house, same call? >> yes. you can. >> everybody is nodding they are heads commission comments or questions. >> just one thing we've talked about issuing a citation to the armory i think what well, i feel more comfortable as directing the inspectors to do an investigation and open it up rather than telling you to cite them we don't know everyone they got up here and said that but still direct you to do an

investigation. >> good suggestion to uncover that muck my more questions nope any public comment? nope okay. we'll move on to our final item any future agenda items or further business you want to add i don't see any okay with this meeting is adjourned at 9:03 p.m. have a good

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