who was in charge. nobody was in charge in pier 80. you visited there. you saw how bad it was. it was to bad, they had put dogs with people, miking i miking it up and they had no idea how though do that because they keep piling people in shelters without any supervision at all. it's -- i was there. very recently and what i saw, for example there was one rottweiler with a disabled man and it was their pride and joy because it kept the three men safe. because one man was disabled who had to make sure the rottweiler didn't eat all the other dogs cad because there were chihuahuas running around. they have no idea how to handle dogs. that was a complete failure. i'm so glad you need to make sure children are safe.

she would be perfect for that, but there are two other people that kneeled sheltering and pier 80 did not work. if you want to ask a question about any of it, i just lived there. yesterday i tried to get my stuff back and they couldn't find it. >> thank you. any other members of the public who wishz.+ to comment on item three, please come on up. >> i'm [inaudible] i did not come here it o comment on that. but a statement was made and i understand, so when you have parents who have children under the age of 18, when they're in a shelter institution, or whatever it is. parents have to walk on eggshells because of the rights the parents no longer have. so when we were younger, your parent could spank your behind because you got out of line and

your neighbor could get on you as well. parents do doesn't have the luxury now. a lot of shelter -- i've stayed in a shelter on my own. the hazards were very notorious. when you have a parent that is with a child in a shelter, they are walking on eggshells because of the pact they don't want cps not to take their child. the parents have to lessen on the activities as far as disciplining. that's why i understand what she says about the staff stepping in. the staff has to take the role of being a parent because they're licensed to do that. that way it takes the fear away from the parent of getting in trouble of disciplining a child whether it's putting them on time out, spanking their butt or raising their voice and talking to them more harshly. that's what we do in our own house. i want to make the statement of

saying even though it is the parents' responsibility in those situations, it falls a little more on the staff because of the rules and regulations that the government has put -- taken away from parents. thank you. >> thank you very much. any other members of the public who wish to comment on item three? seeing none public comments closed. supervisor mar. >> i want to thank miss hall for her application. the shelters and families is critical. as she struggled to get her degrees in criminal justice, i think she would be a great addition to shelter monitoring committee. i did visit pier 80. and i found it well staffed. with clear areas where dogs were and people and their belongings. i found it clean and where the

showers and other places were a good security system set up. there was an area in the outside of pier 80 where people could hang out so it didn't feel like you were locked into a big hangar where america's cups ships used to be kidd thought it was well-set up. i know there are areas for improvement. but that was my perspective, and imin sam dodge and his staff. they're doing their best but we need strong people on the monitoring committee like miss hall and i'll support her. >> i'm also going to vote for miss hall. i think it's good when you have someone who has risen above difficult circumstances to be a champion to her children and family and a person who is willing to come back and serve. that's why i'm going to support

miss patrice hall. i too want to talk about pier 8 o. it is a 180 p bed shelter. owners of dogs are able to bring their animals with them to the shelter. that is critical. it's one after the tracting features. in other shelters across the city, animals are not allowed and permitted. as you see the homeless population on the streets of san francisco. many people have dogs. it's their only form of companionship. it could be cruel to take their dog away when people are very, very close to their animals. the shelter, i too have po gone through a few tours of pier 80 as it rests inside district 10. i've taken a particular interest inside 80. they have coaches. it's clean and safe.

they're watching d.v.d.s and playing dominoes. i don't want to say it's club med. they're not living the life of riley. however, we have gone above and beyond the normal accoutrements that you'd find in shelters because we recognize that people need a hand-up. and we need to be supporting them. there is security 24/7 and staff that is trained and social workers. there are spaces where people can bring their belongings and they'll be locked and retrieveable. i'm not sure why he wasn't able is to get his belongings. i'm happy to talk to you after committee, mr. lee, about your belongings but i want to set the record straight and getting good information about there about what is going on and how this

city is addressing homelessness. thank you. >> thank you very much. concur with my colleagues and i'd be happy to support -- did supervisor mar make the motion is this and seconded by supervisor cohen. we'll take that without objection. congratulations miss hall. [applause] so now supervisor mar has joined us, mr. clerk if you could call item one. >> clerk: a motion confirming the mayor's nomination in appointing suzy loftus for a four-year term an ending april 30th 2020. i'll like to call miss loftus up. >> good morning, mayor tang. supervisor cohen and mar. thank you for the opportunity to res you today. i'm seeking reappointment to this post for police commission

for one reason. i believe we have an opportunity to make sustained and important change for this police department. it's not only going to make a dmirches san francisco but a model of collaboration for a nation that is struggling with addressing the issues between police and community. i'm here with many community members with me so tea we can make change together. if we collaborate, seek the truth, and always remember the power of respect. we can build a community of trust between the police and members of the community. that i don't believe has ever existed. there is indeed much to do. we must identify and irradicate both explicit and implicit bias and rid this department of anyone who holds racist, hop homophobic or sexist views. we must hire, train and promote officers who are viewed by the

community as neutral in their policing. me must continue our work with the united states department of justice to fundamentally reengineer use of force to keep everyone save -- safe and reduce leeptal shootings. we must improve our data on police stop ts and searches and support supervisor cohen efforts to make sure we investigate officer-involved shootings. i'm happy to talk in more detail on policies from vision zero to improving language access. what i want to say most is any change we've successfully made has one theme in common. engagement and relationships. as much as we would like, no one will be able to impose or force a better and deeper relationship of trust between people when t -- people and the police. it will required sustained

effort. dedication, it will take all of us. it will take men look mike hail from the bayview who is currently in high school and wrote to you and said i am hopeful or bridging relationships between both police and community for the simple reason that when we as youth worked so diligently with law enforcement over the summer, some actually starpted to explore careers in it. it will take people like vinnie who after experiencing the unimaginable tragedy of losing his sister jasmine who while in crisis was killed by a los angeles sheriff's deputy in an incident that unfolded in minutes. people like vinnie who after suffering this unimaginable tragedy has chosen to devote his, heart and sphirt so sa spirit to san francisco's crisis center program. demanding with love that the department move to

deescalation. not as a boutique offering but every day practice. it will take people like nicole and janice from walk sf and p bicycle coalition when too many people are dying from traffic collisions sit together with me, members of command staff and crunch the numbers and partner together to save lives. there is indeed much work to do. and i'm asking for your support to continue the work ahead to build a police department we can all be proud of. i'm happy to take your questions. >> thank you for your presentation and service. i know that there are a lot of questions, i'm sure, from committee members. maybe you can just spend more time talking detail about what the police commission has been doing around use of force and certain policy changes and your thoughts around that. >> thank you madam chair, of course.

the december second 2015 was the night that mario was shot in bayview. it was also the night the police commission voted on our body-worn camera policies. we concluded a ix-month effort to work with everyone from public defenders to aclu to develop a policy. we voted on that in full recognition that the department needs more transparency and there were issues of trust we felt body cameras would address. that night an incident happened that rocked, i would say the trust that in particular members ever the african-american community have in the police department. while there are current investigations going on into that incident, we won't go into detail, i said publicly that watching that incident unfold, demanded a series of questions. someone who -- a member of the community in bayview said if that was in policy, we need to

change the policy. search days later the police commission began a conversation around use of force. there were probably 400 people in city hall demanding change and what we promised was we would survey the best practices, what people are doing around the country, the president's task force, the united states department of justice and ask is there a better way in particular to train and have policies and procedures that reduce instances where an officer discharges a firearm and someone is ultimately killed. the incident that we are focused on and the policies that we're endeavoring to pass have to do with what officers do when someone is armed with a knife. we travel to washington, i know supervisor cohen sent a staff gnome a conversation with the police executive research forum on how do you look at this differently? the reality is departments

across the country for many years have been focused on training that tells officers if there is an active shooter, a danger, you pull out your gun and run to the danger. there is a growing recognition that in particular i people in cries. rushing into the danger actually will cause the situation to become more lethal. the training is this, in san diego there was a study that showed most officer-involved shootings unfold of two minutes of officers arriving on the scene. what we're endeavoring to create the time and distance to get to 5 minutes, 10 minutes forker more time for a hostage negotiator so that's the only proven way we've seen a reduction in officer-involved shootings. it's a time. ceas a distance and allowing the scene to unfold. that's the direction an vision of the policy before the

commission. we are waiting d.o.j.'s relingses. i understand from u.s.doj that we'll get a notice on friday on the final recommendations. after that, madam chair, we'll take this policy to two community meeting andal it will come back to the commission. we've worn body wear and we started with a diverse group of stakeholders on both policies for the use of force policy. the coalition on homelessness, bar association, aclu, public defenders office, police officers association and all of the peg groups including the officers for justice and asian p.o.a. any solution that comes out has to have buy-in from everyone. so we're canvassing with the support of officer commission mazzucco is here and we want to get the best policy to make a difference. that's our commitment. >> supervisor mar.

>> i wanted to thank commissioner loftus, i've never seen this many letters of support for the work you've done. commissioner mazzucco, i know that sometimes we don't realize how much hard work is going into dealing with departmental general order on use of force it other issues that came up. on the nights of horrible killings like mario woodsyou say that the work you get doing gets wiped away by the rage. it's not just african-americans. it's latinos, women, lgbt and homeless that have a lot of attention on how the use of force order is drafted. i want to ask you, p is there specific language on directing officers to use reasonable force versus the community town halls where people say it should be directing officers to use

minimal force and deescalating requiring deescalation of conflict versus may deescalate. i want to know how you feel about those issues and groups that have been organizing on these issue. >> i appreciate that question. that's the question to illustrate how this pros it's about different. it wasn't a secret wh policy. the reason folks know that, at the table, an initial draft said it should be minimum usual force. that got changed to reasonable force and organizings at the table say we don't like that. >> when did that change occur? >> through the process. all the versions are on our web side. benefit ever transparency, everyone see the idea of a deliberative group. if good ideas are taken, the department made those changes. but i don't agree. i think the policy of the department since 1995 has been you issues minimum million force

as niece. that's what if should be. we're in the process of deciding finally what the language is. but i would agree and i think th the organizers came and made their case and it was compelling. they also made the case that the current language says you should deescalate when possible. there was a big debate among the police officers groups and community groups. community groups wand to say "shall" you shall deescalate when feasible and the police officers want "should" there is a conversation in light of instances unfolding, a true change in vision for the department. i'm of the viewpoint we'll require clear language that it's the expectation you shall deescalate unless it's not safe for you to do so. this process has been designed to bring about, frankly.

dissengs in the way this unfolds. >> i have one other question. i know it's not just mario woods but perez and other cases, sometimes community mental health services leave many mentally ill on the streets. i think the crisis training has been good. how do we get from theories to implementing it in practice. it sounds like there is a disconnect. i wonder how they can be better implemented in traffic on streets in. >> that's the million dollar question. it came up last night. because similar issues were raised when there was a motion there was a crisis development on the scene in the most recent shooting. crisis intervention training is training. i can say what when we went to washington in january and had a

conversation with over 25 other police agencies, the question is how do you operationallize deescalation? what are the tactics and procedures? it comes down to who takes over the scene. how do they do that? there are issues which are outside the purview for us. we're not trained peace officers. that's why the message i have it must be a collaboration between the police and community to identify a way to make these scenes safe for everyone. i have explained it's a leadership moment he'll hear from peace officers here and members of the community given that there is an expertise in doing this job every day and we have to craft a new protocol. the question was raise the last flight, we can't go to anyone else to solve this problem for us. we in san francisco are on the cutting edge of answering the question, okay, so when deescalation fails, what is the

next thing that synapse and what are the tools and training and equipment that an officer needs to keep themselves safe and everyone at the scene safe. those are questions and conversations that have yet to happen. that's the part where it gives me hope that we have in san francisco to say with our police leaders, with our community members, here is the challenge, how are you currently training in these situations which is run to the person with the knife. we're now saying that actually can creator in danger. let as stop doing that. nothing turns on a dime. when you talk about safety and lives on the line, we're all committed to fete getting this right. we care about the sang at this timsangt at this time of sanctity of life. we want to look back and say we changed course. are we sievely changing course so in 10 years when we look

back, i the number of instances is smaller than today. >> thank you. supervisor cohen. >> okay. question. i'm going to start -- i have a lot of questions. so everyone should make themselves comfortable. those of who know or don't know know that i am committed to making this city safe for everyone. i think that you and i share that same level of commitment as being public servants. i want to start and this is more so for the edification of the sphoax here that are here in the committee room and those watching at home, can you tell me from your understanding what is the role of the police commission? >> that's a great question. so essentially the role of the commission by charter has two main functions it is to do discipline on serious cases which means any anything more

than a 10-day suspension. the power to terminate is vested in the police commission. >> say that slower. you said that too fast. >> discipline. >> thank you. i mean i got it, but i want everyone else to get it. >> it's discipline and policy. those are the two pieces. we aren't making operation the decisions around where officers are deployed on any given day, but we set the policy and conduct discipline. the discipline that we do is anything that is greater than 10 days sus spngs. again, the chief does not have the authority to fire an officer. that authority is vested within the commission. the other thing that i would say is glin is an important par -- discipline is an important part of what we do. we are the hearing officer in the discipline. when an officer is charged with

disconduct, they have a lawyer. the police department has a lawyer and we as the commissioner sit in a quasi-judicial role and hear the evidence. we decide what evidence comes in and out. we as a commission have to sit and decide what we think happened. >> this is done in closed session. >> and we have to decide what the punishment is. i have experienced challenges in the last few months in the fact that part of the reason why you're not hearing fiery speeches from police commissioners around allegations of misconduct, we have a quasi judicial role. >> when you say quasi judicial, you have to remain impartial. neutral. >> that's right. not just for appearance sake but due tros es i process is

something we fundamentally belief in as a people. when things are so outrageous and hit you on an emotional level that you remind yourself your job is to impartially hear the facts. follow them where they go and do what needs to be done. that's my commitment when it comes to discipline. >> okay. what about your philosophies on policy? >> well, how much time do we have? >> we have all day. >> all right! so look. the president's report on 21st century policing said something that is important. in the first page it says culture eats policy for lunch. >> i read it. >> i know you have. you have it probably tabbed as i do. so the notion is this. there are times when you can policy your way out of the a situation and times you have to address the role policy plays in addressing culture. my philosophy is the department is governed by rules, the

departmental general orders are incredibly powerful. should versus shall in a paramilitary organization is a directive. we have to make sure they're thoughtful and with input. my view on policy, the commission needs to do two things. one is react to the moment of now. policing is very reactive. things happen and you must react. the commission has to do that, the other thing is to keep a sustained eye on the big picture and not get focused on something they expense of another issue. for example, i with talk about vision zero. when i was 9 years old in san francisco, this is going to make my mom mad, but when i was 9, i was hit by a car on 24th and california. i was fine, thank goodness. the guy driving the truck felt so bad and brought me ice cream. offer my adult life, i realized i don't think people got tickets

in san francisco as much as other places. when you don't get traffic tickets, there are a lot of us who follow rules because they're afraid ofment consequences. what we saw in december of 2013 was 13 people died in traffic collisions and most are completely preventable. the folks from swritio swrition zero started working collaborativively with us to say this has to be a sustained effort where officers give citations for the things most likely to cause a collision. that is something we can do it save lives. i've kept -- this commission september a focus on that threw so many challenges that are equally as important to everyone in this city. that's how we -- we just got a reported that we're nearing the 50% goal of officers giving citations on focus on the five.

we're still seeing too many deaths on the streets but we have a partnership making the streets more safe. when you ask me my philosophy on policy, you have to pay attention to what is happening now and stay focused on the bigger picture. this is why use of force and relationship with the community is not something we should hope goes away. this is not something where we check a box and be done but any relationship that matters ask a sustained investment. the can question should be what are we all doing to build a relationship between the police and community? because when that suffers, none of us are as safe as we should be. >> you talk about building relationships. first thing that comes to my mind is communication. communication is critical and key to any type of a relationship whether it's a relationship with your husband or lover or with your children or even with your constituents. i want to talk about that relationship. i want to talk about specifically when did comes to communication.

there have been several -- two recent cases that have been brought to light about communications between officers that have been either racist, sexist, or homophobic. what do you think the communication policy should be for officers that are engaging in this, not only the officer that sent the message, but the officer that has received the message. should there be some kind of a policy that would require officers to report this type of communication? >> there is a policy. but again, i know where you're going. there policy, but does it happen. >> you're talking about culture. >> i greet compleetl completely agree. the chief of police is clear anyone who holds racist sexist

homophobic view that should not be, they should be disciplined and terminated from the police department if they hold those views. it's inconsistent with being a police officer. too much power is vested in you. if you hold those views, you fall below the standard what have is expected. supervisor mar made the point. i don't expect everyone to watch the police commission on wednesdays. >> why? >> i think there is -- >> it's entertaining. >> modern family competes with us. what i do think is that we have to do a better job and some of the pr proposals i put forward is we need a policy a analyst. we started a twitter account. sergeant killshaw is great. communication is essential. we're investing in that. the point i want to make is

there is a pledge called "not on may watch" that every officer took. when i read the pledge it gave me chills. it says we have no tolerance for hatred. this is not who we are. when we see it, we'll do something about it. the question i got asked in the interview is there is skepticism in the community that if these terrible things are said, nothing going to happen about it. and so, the process that we have in san francisco is both within the police department and the office of citizen complaints. those cases will come to us and it's clear if it's proven again that those views were held, from my perspective, those folks are no longer police officers. >> so one of the things that i really have wanted to iterate with you privately and also with mr. mazzucco but i want to bring to the public dialogue. this conversation is about not

requiring the police commissioner to come and dwnd themselves, but it present the work that they've done. they're asking to be reappointed to serve in the last -- for another four years. four year commitment. this body as a rules committee, our responsibility is you come before us and tell us the work that you've done. there are people that have come before us that have not done enough work to justify being reappointed. that's what this conversation is about. i want you to have an opportunity to tell me all the good things that you have been able to do in the last four years that either fall in communication, i particularly am interested in systematic changes that rest within policy. you mentioned policy recommendations and things that you made to the mayor and mayor's office. talk to us about the suggestions that you have made in the last four years that have been implemented then take the next

step and tell us about what you'd like to see be implemented in the future. in the next four yiewrs should you be granted another four-year term. >> i bresh the opportunity to do that. if september of this career, i sent you a letter that laid out a recognition of where the department was jee vis-a-vis in the wake of growing distrust and i highlighted some of our initiatives. i'm going to go through those and talk about the future. so in terms of domestic violence, we approved new protocols. specifically about improving the response in situations where the victim has limited or no english pro efficiency. what we were finding in those instances where a victim did not have sufficient language access to translation, at biewzer who had better english skills was the person not arrested. we found victims embroiled in the criminal justice system and

stowbt immigration proceedings. we tackled that issue and chaiged the policy and changed the protocol for officers who have ever had problem problems with domestic violence. so we adopted a policy that recognizes how traumatic the arrest and incarceration of a parent can be in the life of a child in it charts and new protocol. supervisor cohen. you've been a supporter on this. a childhood adverse experience is a predictor. education can be a predictor. one experience is the incarceration of i parent. san francisco has a model policy that's been promoted that actually addresses pow officers are supposed to interact with a child. what is happening in the life of a child's mind and what can they

do to make that situation as supportive as possible. what was beautiful about the process, it was children had actually seen their parents arrested and worked with the occ and department to build that policy. the policy got local recognition from the youth commission. and the urban institute had a webinar to get other departments to adopt a similar policy. we redrew the police district lines. we didn't just -- the controller gave us maps we had meetings and met with individuals. what was stunning is it's a policy to your point, supervisor cohen. policpolicing is a living breathing thing. there are people here that my relationship grew with them when they said i don't want to be if p that police station. i have this relationship with this officer. public safety is not something they think about as an afterthought, it's the beginning given where they live and their

neighborhood is, it's not an option but a fundamental. we did good work there. vision zero another policy initiative. we laid out specific metrics to be reported regarding citations issues and operations. this is one of the policy initiatives we've done. one of powers of the commission is set a goal and have a reporter structure where it comes back. >> back up a second. when you talk about setting a goal, reporting back element many departments fall short in this. is there a way that -- is it a possibility that we can begin to share this information? so as a report is made to the police commission, perhaps we can call a hearing and bring them to the board of supervises as well as the human rights commission to be a venue to connect and share reporting. i think transparency is critical

when we talk about communication. and also repairing the trust factor. >> supervisor cohen, i believe that's a great idea. the more forums where we have of we have thees conversations particularly in use of divorce is a great idea. vision zero. we set it as a goal to get to this. there is pushback because ap captains know best. you can force or fe persuade. this was about persuasion and what has been interesting is the captains that started making the goals would get recognition with the commission. from their community and advocates. so it wasn't just -- it's like the carrot and the stick. it wasn't just a constant beating but it was a recognition when you do something that we've asked, you're lifted up and we saw a i huge increase in the

last quarter and something that is important to me and i think it comes from sometimes i'm accused of treating police officers like my children. but i do think a lot of parenting is dealing with behaviors you like or don't like. one of the ways that you have to make change is to lift up what works. there is a significant amount of that. but i agree with you, viewp visor, asupervisor we should collaborate to elevate the conversation so folks know what we're doing. the final thing that i would say in terms of policy is the crisis intervention teementd. we've supported the mental health working group and co-hosted the first award program. that didn't get any coverage, but it was the first ever awards ceremony that honored nine officers that successfully deescalated situations and did not use any force. it stndz to reason that you obviously reward officers for all types of things. but never rewarded them for

successfully taking it down. what i will tell you is privately, people say, man, i see officers on the street deescalating. they're doing a tremendous job. in terms of changing the culture, we want to lift up those officers that are successfully deescalate difficult situations and honor them. that work is underway. but that all was underway. we can't sweep automatic of the direction directions directions because we're concerned about the future and we have o double down on what is working and collaborate more and engage more as we move ahead. >> we have to tighten this up. supervisor mar probably has pay battery of questions. i want to thank, president lof loftus you've been president how long? >> september of 2014. so under two years. >> you've been the president of a tumultuous time period. i believe that you have guided

the conversation which oftentimes is a difficult and heated conversation. i don't know if anyone in this room or at home listening has attended some of the community meetings. but certainly posts an officer-involved shooting. they're very, very volatile and tempers are running high. i just want to acknowledge the entire commission, the comirses tha commissioners here and the law enforcement that are serving in a very difficult time as well. i do have a few more questions about time and distance general order. i want to be specific. how can the police commission ensure that this particular general order and this is the time and distance general order is followed by our department? >> well, that's a great question. the short answer is this,

departmental general orders is not an option. any violence of a general order could result in discipline. so discipline is one way. the better answer, that's one lever is that the united states department of justice is engaging in clap raive reform with us. one of the things i asked and hope they set as a goal is to be boots on the ground in the stations working with the officers and captains making sure it's happen and helping us ensure it's not just on a piece of paper but the policy is followed. the training allows officers to follow it. i'm very hopeful about their involvement and where it's not followed, the commission has discipline as a tool to use. >> it's currently my understanding that there are 368 active patrol officers that received craseis intd vengs training. can you explain the -- can you explain to me the process in which these officers are

dispatched to situations that may require c.i.t. or deescalation much like the recent officer-involved shooting on shotwell street. >> >> currently it's 524 officers trained. when a call came out and someone was in crisis, that question would be asked by the dispatcher if they had training and that information would be passed along. as we know from a number of high profile shooting, often time the information the officer is given -- >> is that what happened in the shotwell incident? >> i can't speak to that. i will say that the issue of how they're dispatched, they are being dispatched, but the open question is who -- how are the

scenes tactically take of. is it the c.i.t. officer in charge? they're questioning that are addressed to make sure that -- > when you say currently addressed, by whom? >> commission and department. >> do we have any plans to train more officersos with c.i.t. training? >> every academy class is traine trained with c.i.t. and the goal is to train the entire department with c.i.t. the beauty of c.i.t. is the it's a department, it's not standard police training, it's done off site and people who have been trained in these instances. >> i want to talk about body cameras. what was your vote when this discussion was at the police station, the body cameras? >> i voted for them and voted with six colleagues that does -- yeah.

>> when can we expect the policy of the crams and implementation to take place within the department? >> that's my same question. the prose is at the department of human resources. they're in the meet and confer process. iemp' added to thed agenda for next week. it's imperative the cameras get on our officers. >> i want to talk about the blue ribbon panel. can you ask the sta systematic process? >> i was invite to testify and i did. >> what will the police commission do with the recommends? >> it's to the clear what the recommendations look like. but i let the team of lawyers know and judges know we're open to all ideas and suggestions. al i asked if they wouldn't presented formally to the

commission since we have the responsibility to develop policy. i said we're open to all suggestions and ideas. >> all right. next one is about tasers. what is your position on tasers? >> i think the suggestion that tasers is the sole answer to the situation we faind ourselves in, i don't agree with at all. i've been in a number of community meetings where there are different opinions on tasers. i committed to a process that ensures the policy is thoroughly vetted from all the community groups. i'm interested in what d.o.j.'s recommendation is. they'll let us know on friday when they'll let us know. i will say this, the department has put forward a policy that would have the most highly trained officers be given a taser. the suggestion in the policy is that a taser cannot be used except for a situation where it would be the last resort prior to leith force. those are questions we ask whether we believe that's a part of the engineering use of

force. those are conversations that we're in the middle of. >> okay. two more topics. independent investigations. ifts wondering if you support the call to attorney office har to perform a -- >> i'm not a part of the conversations on the attorney general's side. i'm walled off from those. but as a commissioner, i welcome engagement from anyone who wants to get involved. i spent a lot of team with people from usdoj. they are a he going to bring in implicit bias training and they've been clear to the extent to which the departments to not cooperate or they identify civil rights violations. if it's the department of justice. no one can turn a blind eye to systematic civil rights violations. there is plenty of intentative for everyone in san francisco to

move in the vision forward because i think we have an opportunity to do it ourselves. or we have an opportunity to have someone come if and do it for us. >> great. i want to close with a couple of questions on the status of the officers in the text messaging incident. how many of the officers involved with the recently revealed homophobic and racist text messages are with the department or have they been dismissed? >> there are four officers and there thri are no longer with the department. one fl them is pending a criminal investigation. we have that -- >> what is their role within the department? >> sus spenned without pay is my understanding. >> i'm sorry. i just had a general question. i wanted to say thank you for answering my question supervisor mar. thank you for your patience. >> thank you. supervisor mar. >> president loftus, i appreciate your hard work an the

other commissioner. since supervisor cohen brought up the text. i thought it was an april fools day article when i read the second set of texts. i view them as the tip of the iceberg as a culture that not just bad apples but rotten to the core at times given the horrible, not only racist and homophobic, but the first set of texts were antiimmigrant and antiwomen. it's the set of bigotry. you mentioned peter drucker's statement. that they eat policy for lunch. they said reprehensible actions by a few officers do not retblect the overall blah blah blah. but they're trying to say a few bad apples. saying that is important, but they're not acknowledging

systemic culture. the public defenders office said they're trying different things. i'm wondering, i go way back to 30 years when delores hiewrlt huerta had her spleen rushed and ribs broken and those advocating for police oversight. the police does what you can. but how do you deal with this decades-long thin blue line of loyalty and this culture that needs to change now that we've seen the tip of the iceberg from these text message scandals? >> you reference huerta and john lewis. >> but delores huerta happened here during the democratic convention in san francisco. >> 3 is years ago is not a long

time and selma 51 years ago is not a long time. so policing on community is real. i'm not here to suggest that there are not issues that we have to deal with of racism and hope it phobia an homophobia and the shamer this if country. they happen in many places. when i look at the incidents of identifying a racist police officer. the question i asked is what happened next. if there was a culture from the top down of sweeping these under the rug, those officers were not have charges filed against them or face a commissioner loftus and molt choose to resign because they know that they're certain of what their fate is. i think speeches aside and poom who want to say whatever they want to say, the reality is we

have work do do and relationship to builds they've find the racic and assessic and homophobic police officers. let's not castigate an entire field because of a shame of a few. you have my commitment to rid this department of officers who hold those views. part of what we have to do is identify them and take action. >> president loftus, do you think everything you're he a doing is enough to change that culture of bigotry within the police department? >> i mean million dollar question, we've had cop watch, have we made all the progress we want? if that works, are we at the promised land yet? what i would offer is we need to take the best of our thinking in san francisco. we need to ask the kids who live in bayview lupter hunters point point.

they've written you letters. i've asked of the housing project. i've asked police officers. to suggest we know the answer on how to get out of what is a deeply troubling level of distrust between police and community is unrealistic. what i know is this, the progress that we've made goes back to engagement and relationship. and i think we have an opportunity in san francisco to reject the name-calling and shaming. certainly where there is reason to do it, again, you have no role in this police department. but how do we together build a department that we're proud of. a lot of the models have to do with forcing things. let's force them to do what we want. we force when necessary, persuade when we can and work together we're all in this. policing -- police and community need each other. >> it looks like we've ended all the questions from my

colleagues. i want to thank you for your prens president loftus. at this time i'm going to call up any comments. >> i would like to thank my mother maureen roach and my husband tom loftus and my three beautiful girls it's only because of them i'm able to do any of this. >> thank you. [applause] i have many comment cards here. if i call your flame, please line up to the wall right there to the my right where i'm pointing. marianne. ya londa williams. martin. david elliot le us. brenda washington. come on up. >> you don't have to speak in the order i called you. but if you called your name, please come on up.

>> good afternoon i'm here as the president of officers for justice to say we completely support the reinstatement of suzy loftus to the police commission. she has shown that she is a courageous woman who supports and understands impress it biased policing. she understands the need for accountability in situations likes text-gate. she supports reform and procedural justice. she responding to our domestic violence calls and enhantsing the technology that is currently used by the police department so we can deliver more quality police service to the citizens that we serve. she has advocated as i and the officers for justice have done consistently that police officers learn to treat people with dignity and respect. and that we're truly accountable

for our actions. and that this department must be transparent. i have attended many police commission meetings where i've heard her not only take on the chief, she would take on police officers, and she will take on union leaders and officials who really don't get the message. that the it cannot longer be a situation where it's us versus them. it has to be the "we" concept. she also understands the importance that cognitive training is needed within our department. she's a role model for the women of san francisco. i urge you to allow her to be reinnovated. >> next speaker, please. >> i'm marion johnson and a rez of the san francisco.

i am here to support suzy loftus. i've worke worked with her for four years. she's trying to chang the culture of the department and i'd like to see her finish what she started and i think another four years would be great for her to keep participating. also finally seeing what i qant to see is this community policing. she is now involving the community in how the police is plition our communities. -- policing our communities. i won't keep you long, but i do encourage this committee to give suzy loftus another four years. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hello supervisors. i'm brenda washington and i'm a

tenant organizationer with the s.r.o. collaborative. i'm a board member of the uptown tenlder loin museum. enough about me. woor a here for suzy. i met suzy on a police commission hearings about the restricts in the tenderloin where i live. what they had planned for us was not going to fit into our program because we didn't even get a hello about what we're doing and changing and we were tiertd of it. peer tired of it. we came out in numbers to ask the commission though redistrict the redistricting plan that he had for us and involved us. suzy loftus was one of those head people that kept it on

track and listened to what he said and ultimately we came to an agreement and it's working wonderfully. i would love to see her be reappointed as president police commissioner. we need her. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> i'm david elliot lewis. i'm with the mental health board of san francisco and a tenant advocate for the sro clab va rif ofive and i'm of the c.i.t. worker and trainer who has been training officers as part of the crisis intervention team training for two years. i had a chance to work request commissioner loftus in two comasities. one through her with k. o c.i.t.

i've been impacted by tenderloin crime and i was concerned when the tenderloin found out what the community wanted for boundaries was different from what the department wanted. commissioner loftus has organized forums in the community to take our input about how these boundaries would affect access to police services. and i found her and fellow commissioners very receptive and ultimately we came up with boundaries that helped meet the needs of my neighborhood, the tenderloin. i'm grateful for her support of taking community input in redrawing these boundaries. in the past, it's been what the police department wanted without that much community input. regarding crisis intervention team training, that is a work in progress. yes we trained 400. yes, we have a long ways to go. right now it's not fully

operationallize. right now c.i.t. training is not more than training. we need do more. commissioner loftus has been supportive of that. i think the department has dragging its heels but they're starting to see the light and she's been valuable in getting them to see the light of c.i.t. i hope you'll reappoint her. she's been a huge asset for the police commission and the community. thank you. >> thank you very much. before i call up the next speaker i have a couple more cards. looper. davis. beetle and michael patton. >> good afternoon, i'm martin halloan the president of the police officers association. the p.o.a. is in full support for another term for suzy loftus to serve on the san francisco police commission. siewtzsuzy has long

demonstrated her advocacy for women as rights. rights of children of arrested parents. she's demonstrated that since she served on police commission. i was fortunate enough to work with suzy loftus when she was working in the san francisco district attorney's office. i could speak to her ethics and her morals, they're beyond reare approach. since her service on the police commission, and these troubles times. she'd demonstrated strong leadership that is needed at this time when many questions are raised about the policies and practices of law enforcement. not just in san francisco, but nationwide. she is built bridges with the community while maintaining relations with the police officers association and all the other peg groups including the officers for justice.

asian piece officers association peace officers association. pride alliance and women's police officers association. we work with body-worn camera ras. tasers all of these need strong guidance from the police commission. her service as pre of the commission has proven to see us through this far and we need to see it through to the finish line. we strongly urge a reappointment of suzy loftus to the police commission. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i'm [inaudible] and i'm going to read the support letters i sent you all. i work for central city collaborative which is a committee housing -- i want to ask for the reappointment of suzy loftus. ccro worked with tenderloin.

suzy worked with us closely to address issues in tenderloin. a prime example of her strong committeen put is when she got the boundaries for tenderloin. many were upset about the proposed boundaries. suzy met with us and our resident leaders on several occasions to hear our concerns. she worked with us on alternate bown dpris. the committee and large would support. during this proseshe demonstrated good leadership by listening to and addressing the community concerns. she's been accessible, eager to hear resident concerns and work with them to figure out solutions. she never shies away from addressing controversial issues. she seeks community input and has willingness to figure out what works best for the community. we urge you to support suzy loftus for rea choiment can of bliss commission. we're confident she'll continue to do good work.

>> i don't see some of the folks i called previously. from speaker calls. norm ma. vinnie nng, johnny monroe and rachel killsock. >> i'm mel beatle and i'm here as heart part of the collaborative. i've seen suzy perform as president of the commission. more than once. i saw her perform today. that kind of leadership is necessary at the commission. i hope you will put her back. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i'm vinnie. i had the great fortunate of

meeting suzy a few years ago. when i was seeking council, recovering from the unexpected and tragic loss of my sister, in an officer-involved shooting. one of the first things that suzy said to me after receiving my store storry was how can we learn from this? this is the leadership that this community needs. someone who is willing to look at tragedy and acknowledge that hope can still exist. so that others won't have to encounter the trauma that my continues to sustain. lethal outcomes are preventable and wk only reform our law enforcement agencies by willing participation from every stakeholder and so i strongly encourage you to reappoint suzy to the commission so that we can

continue to do the hard work necessary to restore dignity to our communities. thank you. >> thank you very much. for sharing that story with us. [applause] >> good morning. i'm julius [inaudible] i'm the vice president of the police department. there is not a word here today that i can expwree with. you heard a lot about the policy-driven side of the work that we do at the commission. because as you know, the other side, the discipline side is not a side that we can discuss publicly. let me share a little bit more about suzy's work if that area. the police commission, as you know, charged with disciplines

officers for serious violations is work that we take very seriously. and it is a collaborative process in which we must meet and discuss what level of discipline, if discipline should be imposed upon an officer. i cannot tell you that we always agree, but what i can tell you is that suzy has a process in which she evaluates and treats every officer with fairness, with an open ear and weighing evidence in a way that both respects their rights and this process. being a police commissioner is difficult work. sometimes. our ability to speak out on issues is limited. and sometimes people just don't understand. understand-- underse don't speak out publicly on

certain issues. suzy has always walked the fine line of preexpecting both the public and officers, saving officers where she can but punishing those and believe me, we fired officers much more so than other commissions. otheii cannot urge you more strongly than to reappoint suzy. >> thank you commissioner. and for your service as well. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners. where are my glasses. can?? supervisor cohen, supervisor tang supervisor mar. suzy is great. slee really is. -- she really is. i've been on the commission a long time. i think there are a couple of

things. number one, i want to emphasize. not only is she a great commissioner, but she's a great leader. when you get into these times, you need leadership. one the great qualities as a leader, you knows it all for one thing. that tax a lot of study. and she's a great convener. she's been able to pull huge parts of the community together to guide us through what i call a community crisis. you've seen her at the p meetings when we've had tough times at the police commission pleatings. but also, the way she put together the whole body camera piece and brought all the concerned folks together and we were able to craft something out of that and move things forward. i'll say this quick, the big

thing now is we're poised to make changes in our use of force policies that will be then have i of this nation. i'm sure of that. my big concern is we'd come out of it differently than any other city and we're right there. we moved it this far. we can't stop now. we have to keep moving forward. we ever momentum. you have to move her in and get her back and keep it going. in a few months, people -- you talk about communication. san francisco is the one looking forwards as the expm for how to deal with community crisis and use of force policy. please, let's get her back. >> thank you. commissioner for your service. i know we have another commissioner here pe troa dejesus and kevin stall and takai tyler. >> i'm here for two i agree in

terms of leadership for suzy. we've sat in the community meetings. many rock cuss and angry community meetings. we can't speak in the police role. it's important for us to be out in the community meetings to get that temperature and anger and heat and understand it. i've sat with suzy and others and it's been important to understand policy. even though the worker eking groups have gotten tote. we exercise judgment when it comes down to minimal use of force versus reasonable force. we'll use our intent judgment but it's important to get the conversation going. i do support her and i think this is the time of crisis that we should maintain the leadership and continue to go forward and see if we can work. it's going to be a long, hard road but we need to go forward

in pay uniform and thoughtful manner and put forward the reforms we're trying to institute in the department at this point. i'll get back in line. >> thank you very much. >> good morning, supervisors i'm john monroe. i'm the inspector for the police department. from january 2012 to june 2015, i was police commission secretary. i had the unique experience of being the secretary when commissioner mazzucco was president and loftus. i'll get back in line also. commissioner loftus, before the demario incident. before the second text gating incident. before that. her community was communitien gaugement always. as some members here alluded to

and commission -- supervisor cohen alluded. the police commission had lively meetings. i knew on thursday morning first thing i asked the secretary, did loftus call yet? because i know she would have something for me to do to reach out to members of the community and advocates. her concern for community and policing is enormous. it was way before the headlines hit now. i'll expand more on ma swriewka but i urge you to reappoint commissioner loftus. >> thank you very much. next inteeker, please. -- next speaker, please. >> i'm rachel shaw i've a been a san francisco offerser for 25 years. i've known commissioner loftus for a few years. if our written directive unit which is our policy unit in the

department and now as the commission secretary taking -- treeg to fill the shoes of inspector monroe. i've been lucky enough to work with her in both roles both as commission secretary. when i first met her working in the policy unit on pretty innovative and ground-breaking policies that our department and under her leadership has taken the lead on, and she alluded to some children of arrested parents. the restricting, body-worn cameras. use of force. domestic violence policy not only that applies -- general policy, but the policy involving members of our department. is she took a lead on that as well. her leadership and dedication and commitment to not only the commission but the people of this city. is unrivaled.

she constantly is working. constantly in contact with us. making sure that we are not only the commissioners, but the staff of the commission are responsive to the people who live here. she takes her role as commission president seriously and is mindful of the importance of hearing all voices. and that they're considered. she is it fair when it comes to discipline and it is important to her that the due process for all officers is followed. i urge you to support her reappointment. i think consistency is very important during these challenging times for the department. and i think she is a great commissioner. >> jay hillson. [inaudible] green. james [inaudible] colet ground..

>> i don't know if my name wassed called. >> he'll be up soon. >> and we have jeff montaheno. >> i'm jeff monteno. i'm here to speak on his behalf in support of suzy loftus' reappointment to the commission today. he has been extremely impressed with commissioner loftus work on the commission. she has demonstrated time and time again that she's committed to fairness and justice at the commission. through her action and words as well. supervisor feral believes she has the right background to serve the public from her work in the attorney office ears office to her work with bayview.

she is working deeply with the community. she focuses on women and children's issues and offering support to those who don't otherwise get it. most recently the most two recent involved officer shootings she has dmon stripted she has the be composure, compassion, reason and justice to lead the commission and our city through this morning and trying times. the police commission conducts glin ri hearings on charges of police misconduct and impose discipline as warranted. to hear police officers appeals from discipline-imposed by the chief. you can tell from suzy's testimony today that she takes that mission seriously. it's something that she'd committed to doing. we reflect fully ask you reappoint her today.

>> thank you. next peeker please pd imoorch. i'm cathy dliewka, i'm the policy and proposal marchger with walk san francisco. i'm here in behalf of walk s san francisco to support liewz jiewrs i loftus reappointment to the police commission. she's been a be champion for vision zero. we know we need to use all our rees sources. engineering, education and enforcement is a crucial part of that. because of suzy loftus' work and passion for traffic safety within the police department and commission, the police department adopted a vision zero goal. the department has been working really hard to reach its goal also of focusing on the top five traffic violations. and that's because of really the support and work that suzy has done if the background. she also has set up that the police commission gets quarterly updates on vision zero.

so keeping the commission involved. as everyone what has said here this afternoon, she is a a bridge builder. as you might not be surprised, sometimes advocacy groups look mine might have a hard time with a certain police captain or traffic citation behaviors and have that time working with the captain or officers. and commissioner loftus as been a god send in that way. an a mais amazing bridge builder. there is a respect and acknowledgment that we want to get to the same goals. so, i know that we're going to have a better relationship between advocates and the police if we have commissioner loftus on the commission and beeo i know we'll get to vision zero quicker too. for those reasons, i hope you reappoint her. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> i'm kevin stall.

ii'm a member of the sro collaborative and swrition zero advocate. last year a year or two ago when we were going through the restricting process of redrawing the police lines, suzy loftus was open and understanding to the community's needs of making sure the lines are drawn to where our needs are met as well as making sure the police resources are assigned to where they need to be to make our community safer and i'm very thankful and glad she did that as well. as on the vision zero piece. i want to say that i'm glad that she's helping make sure the police are more accountable and citing unsafe drivers in the city to make sure our streets are safer. this is a goal that needs to be met to make sure that all people are safe on our streets now and in the future.

i also want to thank the police commission as well for all the hard work they've gun doing and you suzy loftus' leadership and i hope they continue to do so under a strong woman leader and a woman who was raised by her mother who did a great job raising a strong woman leader in the city. i want to thank her personally as a great woman sha she is. >> i'm going it call two more speaker cards. if i didn't call your name, please come on up. please line up by the wall. >> my name is kat acres tyler. i'm with the hunter point family agency. we're a community-based agency. i met suzy loftus several years ago when i served on the community advisory councilor for the center for youth wellness. i'm here today to voice our strong support for her

reappointment to the commission. i feel honored to be in this long line of supporters and just to be able to talk about the work that she's done, hear what everyone else is saying and see the consistency in who she is as a person. i know personally in the work that i did with her how tirelessly she worked to build partnerships, and to make sure that there was community voice at the center for youth wellness on behalf of the children and families who had suffered traumas in the community, community violence, flame violence and working to enhance the possibility for them to have a more positive future. and soi'm excited to see that she's taken those same qualities and applied them to her work on the commission. i have always just admired her clear vision and her honesty in terms of the work that she does. and more importantly, i remember

having conversations with her and have it come through clearly how much she loves san francisco. i believe that love is what you have to to have any time you're going to do difficult and challenging work. i appreciate that about her. and i support her reappointment, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> good afternoon. i'm jay hilton,. i'm part of the ambassador's circle. i had the pleasure of doing this four years ago for suzy loftus the first time. i represent a body of people that have known her since 1992. i'm here as a kind of be a led to to say that everything you're hearing today and for the people that have worked with her over the last couple of years have been true over the last 24 years since i've known soucy. i got back from sackmento where there is a conference for crime survivors. you ask about change and bringing about change.

one thing that is beginning to be elevated on the national scene is that our leaders must be able to connect the dots between institution thized racism and systemic bias and suzy can one of those cerebral beings that can connect the dots and has been in the community and worked with such a diverse population that she is able to understand how things are connected. and so, if there is anything we learned from watching the warrior's game last night is when seth curry is hot, keep giving him the ball. i thank you in advance for reinstating commissioner loftus because i think she'll do a great job over the next four years. you can't stop her. she's hot, give her the ball. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> i'm zuri [inaudible] i met suzy a while ago. i came to i a police commission

meeting and what happened is i invited some of the commissioners to come out to parolto patrol hill. i invited her to come out patrol hill and she took me up on that and she walked around. i echo everything that everybody is saying. i'm going to whole another subject is with our young women. our impressionable youth. we have our strong leaders by malia and yoa londa and takai and myself. black african-americans. she's a white caucasian woman. for her to take to be around them and to take them up under her wing and to show them the level of respect as we show them as well is something that is needed to be seen in our community. my daughter had the unique opportunity of doing -- being in

the mayor's summit youth program lastier. she still continued on and they made some different policies and procedures and different recommendations, the youth did towards the police department which the police department adopted if and looking at. that's when my daughter met suzy. she didn't know that was my daughter. my daughter came home and talked about this lady and howen spiring she is. that he touched my heart adds a mother. to hear the other young lady takai about the other young women suzy took under her wing in the hunter bayview community. she touches on all different levels. for her to stop now would derail all the work that has been going on. and i'm on the chief african-american advisory committee and shoots' been informational in changing the policies and procedures and

working on that. >> next speaker. >> hello, my name is paulette brown. and we have a circle for mothers and fathers who lost their children to homicide. for me, i lost my son nine years ago. this year. august 14th will be 10 years. i've been coming to the police commission for the last nine and a half years. pleading for justice for my child. i want to say that since i've been coming here and i've been under several police commissions, when you tell your story, you want people to hear you and you want people to see you. you want people to feel how you feel. you want people to have empathy for you.

you want people to have sympathy for you. i can honestly say that suzanne loftus the president of the police commission has given me that. when i tell my story, she doesn't look down on me. i still cry. i still hurt. when i show her my son's picture, her and her mother, they told me they put the picture in their house. that gave me hope that people still care about us. and they're just not racial profiling us. just like the lady said. i'm an african-american woman. she's caucasian and she cares. she cares about the community. she cares when i bring other pictures whether they're glory or not. she has sympathy. she doesn't just say you've been here last week, you come here every week and we're tired of

seeing you. she listens to me and after i finish talking, you ask the public, if you know anything about this police, please come forth. that gives me hope. i have to look at her because i know she's going to say something about my baby. we need that. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> i came here to speak about this. can. >> nie name is lee. i did 10 years in the military. i was also a junior deputy sheriff in bathen rouge. the solution is this. maybe i should hold it up. >> i want to make sure your comments are about item one. >> yes it is. it's to give you a solution for the problem that you're having, not anything else. the solution is this.

maybe i should read it. get rid of the bullets by getting rid their ability to get bullets. this is how you solve the problem you're having currently. this is what i came here o speak about. the way you do thatto stop people from being shot is you deregulate the dope money they use to buy bullets where you have to have a war. if you deregulate that, then you start deescalating the war to begin with. this isn't about, you know, hiring someone to try to find a solution. this is the solution. if you get rid of the money people get to shoot at you, you don't have to shoot back. in the mill ri, you get -- military, if you get rid of my bullets, i can't shook back. you deregulate the drugs. now make them illegal for them

to have it so they don't have the $20 to build up a cache of bullets. maybe you don't understand what i'm saying. it's the only way you can stop the war is to damp it down by deregulating the dope they buy the bullets to shoot at you in the first place. can you understand the solution in maybe you don't. you should actually try to understand that you have to have someone having law and order like the military. if you take away the bullets from me, i can shoot back to defend maybe you don't understand ma i'm trying to say. >> thank you vch. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. suzy loftus has done a great job. please reappoint her. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please.

>> somebody you want to be the police commission officer. someone like mohammed ali or bruce lee or james bond. but i support soozy loftus. for the police commission. , i would say police commission nominee must monitor people's activities. people's civil rights, secure protection. people's civilized culture. secure protection. people's passion or wisdom, or people heart of destiny. pathway. all taken under consideration. to be police commission duties. inside and outside police work. [inaudible] for good response of safety in action. security and pro tengz.

should be having eye aspirations. equality, liberty and just physical for all. >> next speaker and anyone who wishes to comment on item one, please come up. >> my name is brown. president of the san francisco branch of the national association for the advancement of colored people. and pastor of third baptist church for 40 years. i stand here to support not just miss loftus, but i stand to support mr. swr mazzucco. because dr. martin luther king junior was right. when he said the measurement of

a man or a woman not where he or she stands in time of convenience and comfort but where he or stands in times of controversy and challenge. i say without fear of contradiction. these two persons i've named have stood tall in the times of challenge and controversy around the issue. >> specifically in the african-american community followed by the brown community. they possess the character, competency, chemistry, and the courage to do the right thing.

i hope you will dot right thing today. i hope you will appoint them back the commission. >> thank you very much. >> are there any members of the public who wish to speak on item one? seeing none, public comments is closed. supervisor cohen will be back, but i think i'll kick it off by saying i am so thrilled we have someone like suzy loftus in our community serving in her role as the president of the police commission. seeing her work and being able to really deal with all the challenges that are facing not only the police department, but the commission as well. and to do it with grace, calmness, and without laser focus not only the issue at hand, but also on the future. it takes a lot of skill to be able to do that. i have certainly seen her rise

ottocation it be able to handle it well in this role. so, you know, i wholeheartedly support her reappointment. seeing everyone of you who have come out and the communities you represent says a lot of about her and her work on the commission. i'm happy to support her reappointment. supervisor mar. >> the public statements said it allth the stack of letters of support. tremendous respect from so many different communities. i wanted to pay my respects by moving that we support the reappointment of president suzy loftus to the full board as a committee report for consideration on our april 19th 2016 board meeting. >> thank yñn-m supervisor mar. >> i want second that. >> seconded by supervisor cohen. >> thank you very much. everyone for coming out and caring an being engaged. as you heard particularly one of the john hilton said she's hot,

right? so i think we can continue to give her the ball and you should know president loftus we continue to keep scoring. we're not looking for any bricks here. thank you. >> thank you. and so, and i also want to take this opportunity to thank my colleagues as well for having a diplomatic and productive conversation and a difficult issue. with that confess there was a motion to send forth with positive recommendation as a committee report and we'll take that out objection. congratulations. [applause] all right and now item two. >> motion confirming the mayor's nomination in appointing tosms mazzucco for a forker four-year term ending april 30th, 2020.

>> blue ribbon panel. one the judges asked commissioner loftus if she could be king for a day what changes would she make. i set next to suzys mom and said it won't go well. that

judge realized he crossed the line. thank you suzy. also want to thank reverend brown coming here to talk for suzy and i. that means a lot to me in going through the process. i met with reverend brown. i want to the church and met with him and had a very good and hard conversation along with reverend rick baker since i have known since i was 15 years old. we had a great conversation about the reading assignment. i it h to read a article about martin luther kings last speech and we had a great dialogue. i learned from it, it is a very important points came out. i want to thank you reverend brown.

i'm here to ask for reappointment for a 4 year term to what i think is probably the most important commission in the city because this is the leas onbetween the citizens and police department. the recent few years haven't told us that, the leading agency in the city is the police department. we as a commission do the policy and procedure and the discipline. you heard about that. i thank commissioner loftus for filling us in. we can't go out and tell everybody what we do all day. this isn't a part time job, especially as president, i did it for 2 or 3 yours. it is a 60 hour week. now as a commissioner it st. 20 hour week but 20 hours i enjoy. we do discipline and meet with incommunity and out in the community all the time. to me that is helpful because we have get the

message and bring it back and forth. it is a great learning experience. why do i want to be on the commission another 4 wreers? one, i am a native san franciscan and love the sit a. i raised my city in the sit a along with my wife who is a teacher. it is a city of saint francis and people care and don't care about your backgrown. the most open silty city in the world. we raised our children here and proud of it. i serve the city as a prosecutor in the district attorneys office and served as the united states attorney for department of justice. now i served on the police commission 8 years. i'm not the longest standing issue. commissioner dejesus and

marshal have be beat. 8 years. we have issues with use of force. we have issues with police officers texting not treat thg public right. throughout my career every time i had a chance to talk to academy classes, new police officers, i start the speech off with, please treat everybody with the same respect you would hope somebody would treat your mother, father, brother, sister or children. that is the basic tenant and that flows through everybody we have done for policy, procedure and discipline. the sad part is not all the officer follow that. i get it, it is a 2300 member police department and there will be people that are a problem. one thing we have done as a commission under suzys leadership and

prior leadership is we have been moving forward. we discussed department general orders regarding use of force when it come tooz shooting moving cars. one thing i thought was the silliest thing is shooting at a car. san francisco police department does want do that anymore because the commission looked at that. we talked about car pursuits and don't do tat because it puts the public at risk thrmpt are other things we have done, the crisis intervention training. you heard folks talk about that. that started during when i was the president. i remember when it was brought to our attention there was push back. i said wait a minute, we are seeing most the instance officers have to use force involve people in crisis. in fact, i was on dr. marshals show street soldiers and

they are saying why is this happening. the common thread of officer involved shootings are people in crisis. the crisis intervention became a important part of what we did as a commission. it isn't tradition for police officers but give them a cit badge. the interest is phenomenal. you heard the numbers a little over 500 officers trained and have seen it and gone to the class. i have seen in it in operation on street and it saved lives. when we had that award ceremony for the officers it a shame the public didn't see that. that was 9 officer involved shootings that never happened. i sat there and had tears in my eyes of the presentation and hear the officers and what they did.

there is complete buy in. it has to be get better and need to protect it and when we wlook at the use of force policy wree doing that. it is a delicate balancing the officer safety versing public safety. cit is a big component and will get better at that and think we'll get to a point where we love to eliminate the officer involved shootings. i have to tell you as a commissioner the worst thing we do is review every officer involved shoting. every time we get the message a officer difeed ipa officer involved shooting we review and return to duty and fire arm discharge review board, we make policy recommendations made by the police department and by occ is and it

is the hardest part because someone lost they are life in most instances. i investigated officer involved shootings i think i did 17. i will take you to what it is like. it is tragic, it isn't pretty. the officererize severely effected. the community is severely effected. the victims and families are severely effected and we are asked to take a look and say what can we do better. every time we look at this we say god, what could we have done better? how do we approach the community but go into the community and take the communities fire and the sad part is i wish we could talk back and forth. talk to you and members the board of supervisors because wecan tell what we do. we have to sit there and can't respond. i want to give

commissioner loftus credit we did something unique after mario woods shooting and went out and met with groups to talk about officer involved shootings and it was the most incredible experience because it wasn't a crowd of folks screaming and us sitting there with a straight face but had a dulog along with members of the police department and it was incredible tosee what we learned about what people how they view the police and the use oof force. that was a incredible learning experience so hope fl more opportunities like that like with the buddy cameras, we have gone out to the community and get input. we go to cops for doj for their expert opinion. we welcome any look at it san francisco police department because we can do better and will do better. you look at president obama 21 century policing and most of that we have already done. we put those policies in place and

procedures in place. we backed the procedures up with discipline and here to tell you during my tenure as president in the last 40 years we have terminated 8 police officers. one the hardest things we will do, but we don't take it lightly and give them due process but be do it because we cannot have the publics trust unless we eliminate officers that dopet belong here. the other statistic is variety important thrks number of officers who resigned with charges pending because they know they would beterminated. that number has gone up substantially. >> my question is what is the number sp ? >> the number of >> you said 8 officers terminated- >> 8 officers terminated since

2011 after hearing. there has been 12 officers who resigned with charges pending. >> since when? >> april 2011 to present. nobody in the commission will tolerate if a officer is a racist. if they lie. if they use excessive force. thauls commission that will help the officer if they have personal problems. commission president sparks taught when a aufser hasn't done anything that is put him or her then position where they can't testify or not a racist or homeo phobic we try to help them and that is something this commission has done. we do not and will not tolerate officers who send racist texts. you asked a question about it department

general order about social media. i'm at the forfront of that department, that is assigned to me and working on that and waiting for drafts for city attorneys office and meet and confer with unions and it is a legal subject. where do the officers first amendment right end and meet that department general orders of conduct on becoming. the minute they express a racist view they don't belong in the san francisco police department. my father served in this department and learned as a children that cannot exist. i give you our word, we give due process but if a officer is a racist the result is termination the best example i can give you is that in the last 3 months there are 3 officers who decided they can send racist texts wloo decide

it terminate themselves rather than continue to embarrass the department. we have structure and discipline and know that is a the hammer. one thing in the multifaceted approach i'm looking at is how do officers get to the point after they join the san francisco police deparlt with all good intentions they feel comfortable being a racist or feel comfortable using excessive force. how do we get there? we had presentations through the police department what happens to officers during their career. what changes them? 10 hours a day on the street and see the worst of the worst or cleaning up the mess. one thing i say about the proud men and emen in the department many when are behind us, they clean up societies mess. i told you most the officers if not all officer involved shootings involve people in

minuteal health crisis. they are cleaning up it every day. ironically last night and heard sirens and what i heard were officers calling for hot teams, saying can we move to a door step at 400 castro because he doesn't want to be in the while. what is the status at psych emergency. it is code red meaning no beds available. that is what the officers deal with. we ask them to be psychologist. how does that effect them and does it bring them to the point they make these mistakes. we also noted very significant statistic, a lot of officers awarding for harrowism end up in the discipline calendar a year and a half later. they have ptsd. i learned that from

dr. morgan peterson and he told me you do a great job after these ois's but guess what you talk at the 95 day mark? >> i said no. >> we don't. he says that is when they get ptsd. i dent care if they center to go kicking and screaming because they have to go to counseling because police officers are helper, not help seekers. i think it good of department and public. some accomplishments that we have done, the disciplinary backlogged we cleared the calendar which is good thing because there was over 100 cases. we are probably down to about 12 to 14 cases, with those cases-exclude thg cases that were taken away. we will have done that with the

chief and union and council and make agmessage. ia lie you are gone. you hurt somebody you are gone. a racist you are gone. proud of that ft invention system i worked on. those are factors we look at about whether or not the officers will have problems occ complaint, complaint from supervisors. we have that in plas but neat work. the acl u told us all most plea00 officers referred to the eis system and 6 counseled. it may be a inaccurate number and may not my gut is it is not so we need to perfect that. we worked oen issues where we had suicides by officers that we took head on and moved forward with improving the counseling program to make sure that

doesn't happen. we have done a lot and have lot to do and very proud to serve the city and proceed to serve the citizens the city because you can't have public safety without public trust. i walk every day in the city, i take the bus. i walk back after meeting with reverend brown a few weeks and sow how fillmore street changed, one, two, three blocks. we lot more work to do. i'm proceed to say despite the incident we are ahead of the curve. like dr. marshal said we want to be at the forfront and be the police department everybody follows. the department is like a fmly and that isn't a negative thing for a commissioner to say that because i know what officers go through. i know what their life is like y. took my mom to the last academy graduation.

she had just gone to a funeral of one of my dads former partners. we watched the most diverse class that ever graduated. i heard a mom screen and said that is my baby. it was just a-one of my law partners told me he was driving by walking with his daughters and said it was incredible to see. i told my mom what do you think? she said this great, these kids are incredible. what a great agency, you should be proud. they just signed up for 25 years of heart break and that is something we need to balance as we move forward. i take the police department has been through a lot of changes and take it seriously and it is for the better of the community, but i brought

something with me today that i think i will show you. i took this picture out of the frame. i'm also here because of him. sergeant inspector mazzucco and these pictures there is a difference i noticed this morning. when our officers take pictures now it is behind the american flag. look at the pictures they to in the 60's their hands are folding and they are peaceful. that is how i want it to be. >> thank you very much. i see that supervisor cohen questions >> i feel like you got the answers to the questions given that you had a opportunity to hear my

questions that i addressed for president loftus, so i'm going to ask you to begin by starting to talk about you have served for the last 8 years what are you most proud of and what have you accomplished and want to know should you be grantsed another 4 years to serve what you will continue to work on or order from the policy changes you would like to see? >> i'm proud the crisis intervention training because that isn't typical and officers feel comfortable with and proud we are able to convince the officers and community to come together and make that happen. i'm proceed-it saved lives. i can put my headthen pillow and know pushing something forward where there was push back that

i can say i helped save live jz that is what we strive to do in public service. i'm proceed of the work and time and effort that went into that. i'm proceed on the work of things that happened in including the video where men and women with the leadership department permission and commission involvement put together a video about what it was like to be bullied. i sent that to everyone i know. i'm proud of the department general orders that i worked on about not shooting at moving vehicles because it protects community. i'm proud being able to hire and encourage hiring more diverse police officers. i'm proud of the fact we go then community and have community organizations we work with and can have frank conversations about re

districting. commissionering lot us led through the redistricting thing and that is incredible. they were saying you are not taking those officers from us. you won't do that to us. we want this and that and you hear how people are concerned about their district and station and officers. it is theirs and it is real. i enjoyed working on that. there is just a [inaudible] eis, push back on that [inaudible] nobody likes statistics but i think when we put together and put in place that showed there are indicators we need it look at. one of the leading indicators was a tragic incident and that is what we need to look at so the officers don't do anything negative in the community. also we worked on the disciplinary back hog and a lot say