to my left is thomas owen provide the board with legal advise sgimdz we're joined we're joined by representatives from the city departments that have cases before this board. or joined by them shortly and joe duffy to be here and representing the department of building inspection and zoning administrator also known as who will be representing the planning department and planning commission and chris buck from the san francisco public works bureau of electronic devices are prohibited. out in the hallway. permit holders and others have up to 7 minutes to present their case and 3 minutes for rebuttal. people affiliated with these parties must conclude their comments within 7 minutes, participants not affiliated

have up to 3 minutes - no rebuttal. to assist the board in the accurate preparation of the minutes, members of the public are asked, not required to submit a speaker card or business card to the clerk. the board welcomes your comments. there are customer satisfaction forms available. if you have a question about the schedule, speak to the staff after the meeting or call the board office tomorrow we are located at 1650 mission street, suite 304. this meeting is broadcast live on sfgovtv cable channel 78. dvds are available to purchase directly from sfgovtv. thank you for your attention. we'll conduct our swearing in process.

if you intend to testify and wish to have the board give your testimony evidentiary weight, please stand and say i do. please note: any of the members may speak without taking the oath pursuant to the sunshine ordinance, and thank you. the testimony you're about to give will be the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> i do. >> okay. thank you we will start with item number one general public comment this is an opportunity for anyone here to speak on a matter within the subject matter and jurisdiction not on tonight calendar seeing none, commissioners questions or comments commissioners anything. >> strength in numbers. >> okay. and we'll move on to

item 3 the boards krfrths minutes of march any addition or corrects. >> a motion by commissioner fung to adopt the minutes any public comment on the minutes seeing none, on that motion commissioner lazarus commissioner honda commissioner wilson and commissioner swig okay. that that motion carries with a vote of 5 to zero. >> item 4 is a jurisdiction request the subject property on florida avenue from ken and dennis and dan and t.j. and charlotte and jennifer and greg and daniel kim and others

requesters to take jurisdiction over the application which was issued on october 21st by the department of building inspection that appeal ends anticipate a jurisdiction filed on march 17, 2016. >> permit holder is here and a one story shed and replace the - study and one full bath and roof deck with stairs to rear yard and commissioner honda we're not grazed with the presence of our representatives from the city department so i'm not sure it make sense to hear this item quite yet. >> what else do we have to go over they don't need the presence. >> we have a public works

represent on the project although i don't think mr. buck is here yet okay. >> mop from that department here. >> there is someone from public works not from the bureau of urban forestry mr. buck will refer to the other representative we can move forward and hear that case so we'll hold off think item 4 and then move on to item 5 appeal sunset neighborhood association versus the san francisco public works of urban forestry appealing the issuance of a tree removal of 33 street trees with replacement of 77 palm trees as part of urban streetscape project and the hearing on that was held only matrix 9 and on for future consideration it was

continued to allow time for a meeting to be convened if additional agreement can be agreed on for a specie to recommend non-palm trees species with the president's consent first if public works and report back on their efforts and whatever recommendations to the board step favored mr. weaver 3 minutes. >> we've heard a prior before so it is just - >> why not go to the podium and pass that up and the board has to agree to accept those documents you might want to explain what they are.

>> thank you my name is mike project manager are san francisco public works the urban streetscape project i'm going to glow a quick presentation with my 3 minutes and try to get it all through just a reminder the urban from 19th avenue to 27th avenue through the process we had our board of appeals hearing an march 9 that was continues to allow us to do further public outreach public works staff project team met with the bureaucracy of urban forestry to review the traditional canopy trees for the public's consideration we set a public hearing dates in 2016 an jefferson elementary school an

urban street and tonight we'll present the finding from there so the meeting was held on april 6th we had 77 attendees sign in we received 90 votes at that merging we sent out mailers to 17 hundred project areas between lincoln and n judah and 19th avenue and 28 avenue so 17 hundred residential addresses we sent the marital and gave residents the option to mail in their vote if they couldn't make the meeting on the slide here on the left is an example of the marital and on the right we have postings on poles throughout the corridor we advertised the meeting this slide shows an example of the ballot that we presented 4

trees available for selection by the county those were select by the project team with the urban forestry staff and chosen to do the availability to handle the likelihood of establishment we received 200 and telephone votes and 90 at the meeting and one hundred and 20 mailed in the results here in terms of number one choice for the street tree that was 52 percent 36 palm and 5 percent oaks when we looked at a different one one block in each direction off the corridor number one choice 52 - 8 percent olive and the merchants on irving streets

they're number one choice for the street tree overall was excuse me. 76 percent wind mall palm and down from there a couple of more slides. >> just continue. >> so basically, the results of that vote we found the community preferred this the merchant preferred the wind mall palm that met the upper storage and long term maintenance awhile also addressing the neighborhood canopy tree question we assessed it to reach a party agreement and proposed for the palm in certain place in their place

incorporating this. >> so for your approval asking that the board of appeals uphold public works with the promoted provisions the revision will be that a recommendation to approve the removal of 33 street trees and approve the planting of 48 percent winld mill palms and other trees i have plans of where we're proposing those trees to get to you a copy of the revised order recommendation. >> can you show that plan on the overhead so everyone can see that, please. >> their copies are available if you want them passed out it is kind of small. >> let the public view.

>> sure. >> so i'll try to show 4 different sheelts since an 8 block corridor. >> you can pull the mike over. >> and scroll up the view finder so we can help pull out the view. >> there we go. >> thank you here 27th avenue to mid block the overall in the mid block location remove the windmill palms and replace them the overall behind did concept there were a handful of merchants that prefered one over another we

tried to prioritize and working to develop some reasoning behind where they're located so the tra sustain from the ned h north side from block by block. >> have you provided those documents. >> i e-mailed them. >> did you receive. >> you can see on that reddish the trees with the green circle is the tra sustain as a one for one removal of windmill palms with tra sustain as. >> could you refreshing refresh our memories. >> there are 3 weeping wool

brush in front of the the san francisco credit union and law school trees at 21st avenue and two other species of trees actually that the bureau of urban forest denied for removal i don't know the specifics species of those trees one in front of the goodwill and another one on 23 on the south side not sure of the distance there. >> thank you. >> can we hear in mr. buckeye know you indicated you wouldn't have comments but do you have anything to say. >> i participated in the

community meeting a great turnout we received a lot of great feedback there was a lot of interest in the tra sustain a we also received a lot of preference for the windmill palm by the merchant so trying to balance that sort of split interest as best as possible my sense this is a pretty good compromise by adding a number of tra sustain trees i'm feeling pretty good about the process we spent the extra time it was have well that attended and got a lot of feedback that's all the feedback i have. >> what do you on about the collage of species. >> not a major problem for me

it is done a lot in streetscape architecture i reaction to what exists and the aircraft's make the design it is done quite a bit and sometimes every other tree and sometimes in groupings within the palate of design that exists in an urban forest to do those kinds of mixing and matching i have no problem it is reasonable and hard to come up with a perfect compromise but in this case it is based on the amount of feedback for both the windmill palms and tra sustain a reasonable design. >> and mr. buck how many of the corridor have sustainable tree replacements we're going from right now. >> in terms of the trees permitted for removal part of

project. >> right. >> it is pretty in the low 30s. >> what others kind of corridors such the irving tree corridor there is a number of different sites i will say for irving the deter of commonplace cover is not able a lot of trees but not a lot of commonplace removlot o- it is a pretty i mean, i don't think the removal no debate about in we're trying to remove the trees in poor condition work out a doubt a number of projects

but. >> my question was initially when it came before the board the windmill palms people of the pushed on with the selection and the question is that in further merchant corridors noah valley and others is this process going to effect how the university treats those corridors coming up. >> it didn't fact those we have no agenda to keep the passages i'm excited to see some of the tra sustain come into the plan. >> thank you very much. >> sure. >> thank you. >> we'll hear from the

appellant now. >> good evening, everybody and thank you, again, for giving our community this opportunity we took this involuntary seriously and work hard to organize the turnout was closed to one hundred people and 200 and 12 votes were collected this shows our community does care and time our voices to be heard and credit card the canopy trees got 65 of respondents ranked that as the number one choice smaller tra sustain is a small leadership and 52 respondents prefer this tree people are asked to rank their choices this was at total points that each species received is the important number to look at.

>> i don't mean to interrupt you, we gave extra time to the department you'll have it,too. >> sorry to interrupt. >> so if you look at the total points statistics again, it the interesting with the leader of the points are frustrateless olive and the palm is third received third place so in general when looking at the ratio the canopy is a 4 to one ratio when looking at the number one rank it is a 2 to one in favor of the canopy they're an overwhelmsing support but at the community meeting we one or two trees will be selected then sustain and olive from the look at the ranking vote the voters

lead to believe that will determine what trees to be planted, however, the proposal is to plant that only 20 canopy trees out of 68 only 29 percent of canopy that is in contrast it they have 79 percent and 69 percent of the voters want canopy trees it is not very clear how the number of canopy trees was derived and not a fair compromise not in line with the vote the continuity and consistency is not clear regards to the compromise the plan has vary amounts the trees and varying amount of canopy trees per block that was substantive you know and also not going to be consistent to have all canopy trees that would be a very

unified look for the neighborhood regarding the viability of shop signs they have a canopy spread and it is a 10 to 15 feet as opposed to the regular palm 10 feet a similar spread and sum up we understand the concerns and open to a compromise but we want to stress that compromise should be in line with the votes because the community came out and expressed their opinion and everyone has equal weight again, we hope you consider all the numbers considered and the community wishes and make it in favor the canopy trees or a fair ratios between canopy and the other palm trees. >> wyoming you propose. >> well, you know if we go by what we were told and everyone

thought that would be you know the top 2 trees that won the vote if you go gi by total points this should be true for the olive tree we look at the merchants and the merchants overwhelmingly supported the palm then why not go by the some sort of ratio between canopy trees and pages and that's a 4 to one ratio we have a - so it is either you know it depends on how you looked at the never mind if you go by the one vote and canopy more dick. >> i'm asking you what you propose. >> all canopy trees or if you go by 79 to 21 percent palms

then this will amount to 14 palms and 15 canopy trees we've discussed this plan okay. >> this. >> that's okay. >> 14 palms and 44 tra sustain we spoke with tom the architect and one of the ideas for example. >> thank you i wanted to get a sense. >> basically. >> okay. yeah. >> thank you. >> okay. >> commissioners we can take public comment then can we can see a show of hands of how many people wish to speak under public comment? okay. great so if you could sorry - >> okay. we'll give 2 minutes given the number of people here

the first person and line up on the far side of the room if you haven't fill out a speaker card or give a speaker card to the gentleman pest. >> i'm bill the president of the outer sunset we had our merchant meetings on april 6th on 19th avenue happy to report we had a good turnout and civilized four and a half years ago we had a meeting in the same locations, in fact, 3 times in dpw got the blue chips and the community got involved as you may know this involves the merchant and people living on 19th avenue and 27 directing your attention my associate has 11 meetings and dpw has been out to the meetings several times to belief us i

thought everything was fine until i got a call from dpw the association was protest they were going to be totally surprise that's four and a half years they were aware, in fact, we know for 40 years the vp has been in contract contact with us i wanted to get this resolved after 4 nature years one thing i've learned i didn't know what the word arborist meant after four and a half years i'm the representative northbound golden gate heats. >> thank you, bill next item, please. >> good afternoon. i'm on 26 avenue i shop and walk an iving several times visually everyday i advocate for the planting of

the trees and voted for the tra sustain i took note of the prospective of the merchants that maintenance of the more desire trees milestone miter be a burden that attacks the bottom line the reality of the contention we want to commend californian state i and many other members of the i'veing street community m many of whom i spoke with volunteer our services free of charge to help to maintain those in cooperation with the organizations in closing the merchant vote reflects a business oriented location and ignores the deceptively making the entire block especially attractive place to shop and stroll and as a result is satisfied customers who want to return and shop here property owners and residents

happy to live here and more revenue and repeat business for all the merchants thank you thank you. next speaker. >> good evening commissioner i'm thomas i'm with the sunset residents association i'll also an architect of 4 decades experience and done retail projects and urban design projects similar to this we've heard dpw indicates that their would be a proposal for a mix of trees the problem with a mix of trees there's a large difference between the palms species and the common place trees the community has stolen that they prefer the common place tree and if you add the percentages that increases if 52 to 64 percent now at approximately 2:00 p.m.

this afternoon we received the plans from the dpw and we were able to go through this one the questions you asked was what would you propose we would propose so work on this plan together with dpw but the percentages that dpw expressed the tra sustain represents about 29th percentile should be the percentage that a palm would be given in this strip so we- the important thing the overall concept has to work we want a rent-controlled place to come to as a community and be inviting so the city's priority to get us out of our cars and go to a place that is inviting so what we propose we work on this plan but the percentages that

the vote represents ♪ plan thank you >> thank you next item, please. >> hi good evening kathleen part of sundown association i'm here to support what was said precisely we can have all canopys and properly represent what the community voted, and, secondly, there was an boundary that limited did voting we thought that was arbitrary from listening to n judah and didn't include kirkland and shopped an iving street that whole time we don't understand the procedures people didn't. could the

meeting and the other folks did and thirdly, with all due respect to the merchant shouldn't receive priority we deserve a place to go and shop the merchant will not be there without us they come and go we live there we have some written letters of support for the canopy trees from the certification and on independent saucer supporting the canopy trees overwhelmingly thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> can i get some help to plug into the overhead actually it is - is it here.

>> this is website for pg&e they take special issue with palm trees that is called the right tree in the right place

here's a illustration of the kinds of palm trees that pg&e recommends windmill palm is not on that list if you see here it says palm tree hazards that is a windmill palm it is the bad boy on pg&e website let me read what that says palm prongs are a cause of power outages they're caused blocks away when prongs are carried by high wind we have high winds that barrel down the street sometimes that get up to 70 are miles per hour palm tree growth be can't be

directed away from wires they require the trees to be maintained a safe distance from the wires trees in close prompt must be eventually removed to require the safe distance i'm not sure the merchant understand that the cost of removal will be born by them and i happen to know that is around $10,000 to remove a palm tree all right. i'll go to another page here i'm sorry your time. >> thank you very much. would you care to state your name my name is judy j hypothetically worthy live two blocks if

i'veing >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. >> could you speak into the meeting sorry. >> good afternoon commissioner honda and dwishtd members of this board my name is benny yee i'm a long time director and a past president of the outer sunset merchant and professional association i'm sure many of you commissioners understand this is the oldest establishment in the sunset district now because of these tree issue and we are thankful to the department of public works and we had many, many reading

together with them and along with all the residents and merchant alike if that corridor by the way, my office at the corner of 22 and i'veing right in the center so i have 7 tenants downstairs and they are very concerned what kind of tree will be planted there they all besides but not everyone understands once the department of public works turns overall the trees to us after the condition of planting and then the property owner or the store owner will take care of the those plants under many discussions with the professional who knows the tree well and they all recommend that

the windmill palm will be ideal if in that location because the palm can trotter wind and salt and also lack of water still can survive. >> and so therefore maintenance part i'm sure he knows that is easier than the others so. >> i'm sorry mr. yee your time is up. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi my name is calvin young i'm a store manager of walgreens and here to support we're a member of the outer sunset merchant association and here to support the windmill palm trees

was betting i didn't mention a palm on the street we get a lot of traffic and people kind of make a mess sometimes an iving street we need something to withstand the wind and as merchant with trees surrounding our business area we want to make sure that is low maintenance it is something we can make sure it is looking good and everyone that passes by an ivingleave is going to go.

>> all right. here we go welcome back to the wednesday, april 20, 2016, meeting of the san francisco board of appeals we're on item 7 appeal joseph versus the department of building inspection with planning department approval the property an jackson street appealing the issuance on january 2016 to doug of an alteration permit to a revision permit updating the measurement of a deck to legalize the conditions we'll start with the appellant 7 minutes to present the case. >> and actually, i want to ask

if that on on behalf of the permit holder excellent. thank you. >> good evening can you hear me all right there we go. >> i'm joe a 42 year residents of 3232 jackson street thank you for hearing this matter tonight you don't think i don't plan to repeat appellants brief i'm knowledgeable about the subject deck i filed angle earlier permit in 2015 about the east he said the deck being too close to my property line and the in the case negative effects of the noise and barbecue postponing to me and others around me

in the process of going through the appeal i learned in the discussion with the architect emphasis that the deck was not big enough to generated noise on this 4 feet deep it is characterized a as a person not a party deck go when they constructed the deck that which is thirty percent deeper shown on the drawings we were given i filed a complaint because based on the drawings i was provided the deeper deck encroached and required a rear yard setback and expand for a greater disturbance i spoke to inspectors gwendolyn after the inspection and confirmed the deck was larger than oriental approved that was now a matter that was appeal able to planning where in his words retired or made legal the reason he signed

the appellants brief a setback violation involved and a greater potential for negative effects on neighbors while i was preparing for today's hearing he was confused about the inconsistent with the submits and city documents as they lead to different conclusions about the extent of the encroachment into the setbacks first, the site plan approved by the city on october go 15, 2015 a 35 foot 11 inch and 4 inch deck the site plan approved in 2016 shows a 37 foot setback and a 5 foot 3 inch deck the extra size of deck and third the alterations preempt that was prepared by the department of building inspection dated january 28th of this year shows

a 31 foot 7 inch setback in the comments by the planning commission. >> so i respectfully i have a photo of these that can be used on the projector if necessary i respect ask the board to clarify the multiple setback measurements and return the deck to its original dimensions thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll hear from the permit holder now. >> gary. >> hello good evening my name is peter i'm the attorney for the permit holder 3 basic issues to go to what i think that is

easier if people know where we're going first give you a little bit of background second two arguments to why the appeal to be denied and 3 other issues the commissioners should think about first of all, the background that had been confirmed by mr. sanchez today is that on january 27, 2016, permit was filed with dbi for revision to the permit that approved the deck updated the measurement and following and compromise by the appellant on january 29th the permit was approved and february 22nd of this year, the department of building inspection came out and inspected and give the final approval for this beginning e dbi found it met the

setback requirements that's the background two argument this appeal should be depend first everything is approved by the city on the up-and-up mr. sanchez will back up that and second the appellant has not presented any evidence that the deck is within the setback no engineering report no measurements work or, no anything other than he's saying this is within the 25 percent setback requirements so the only evidence actually before the commissioners here is the approval by dbi finally the third thing i want to address briefly under another issues would be the fact the setback is from the rear of the yard and the appellant is the next door neighbor so the setback requirement even though there was a violation and no

severed not set up for the adjacent landowner but the owner behind not the case of appellant this second sorts of other issue is that the potential disturbance from a barbecue or noise is unrelated to the setback requirement for that the same reason it is setback approximately thirty feet from the back property owner not the next door neighbor he's next door so eve the setback was violated wouldn't make a different with regards to smell or enjoys the same distance were with that, i'll leave this up to commissioners to decide but again, i think that dbi and the planning department will support the finding that everything was on the up-and-up. >> so that's the width of the deck. >> the length of the deck or

the width. >> the narrow dimension. >> how far back it is i believe 5 foot 3 inches or 63 inches. >> i saw the dimension but it pertains to. >> 5 foot 3 inches, sir. >> out to out then. >> yes. only goes back 5 feet from the property not really a party deck. >> the question i have counselor you said that once negotiations have been reached the settlement been reached you submitted as per that settlement. >> you mean settlement. >> with your client as well the next door neighbor it is what you said i believe; right? >> reached the architecture and went to dbi with the plans according to that did i hear

that wrong. >> illness what you're asking me. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll hear from the department now. >> mr. sanchez. >> thank you scott sanchez planning department over the past year or so a handout of permits for the subject permit some interior renovations and in august they submitted a permit to add a dpw deck at the rear subsequent there was a permit to reduce the deck but then maybe substantially perhaps not reduced and a notice of violation in response to that they submitted the permit before you on appeal and that's the

permit updating the measurement and based on reviewing the permits that be on appeal that is code compliant their maintaining a 25 percent rear yard that is based on is assumption the health as the correct dimensions and i on the plan and according to the plan they required up to 25 percent rear yard the deck is maintaining that the scope and size didn't trigger the neighborhood notification so the permit was properly reviewed and approved and perhaps issues and concerns relate to the deck been proposed and the deck size is reduced and the deck size increased why we're here with that appeal tonight as a shown on the plan before you it is code compliant and a foyer amount of deck appeals that is

getting an is smaller size of decks we've seen recently but appears to be code compliant. >> thank you. >> so mr. sanchez, the - when you make the statement is appears to conform to the 25 percent then you only checked the the line of the dimensions to arrive at that conclusion. >> i looked at the overall debt of one and 27 and half feet calculating the rear yard 31 feet 7 inches and including the numbers don't quite a few add up exactly they have where they're showing 37 feet and one inch from the rear building wall to the neighbor prime minister and

4 foot 3 deck and 37 remains they're a couple of inches off. >> but 2 inches. >> the project is code compliant and so the margin of error at least being less of an improvement. >> you don't require a survey to establish the building corners. >> no, we don't require surveys with in the case of new construction or major alterations we felt that would be necessary and helpful. >> thanks. >> thank you mr. duffy anything? >> commissioners joe duffy dbi i don't have too much many report a revisions to a permit tool update the measurement of deck as you can see the builder

inspector was noticed it or told about it by the neighbor and instructed them to get the permit that is issued he correctly over-the-counter and the indeed the permit had a final inspection on february 16th it was substantially suspected because of the appeal on the 19 of february we've signed off on the work with the appeal i'm available to answer any questions a separate permit required for the gas heart what's for the heart above. >> the gas heart if it is supplied from the gas from the house would be required to have a plumbing permit. >> for the electrical. >> should have been that go might have been. >> thank you mr. duffy. >> just to refreshing my

memory the setback of the side of deck different from looking at. >> 3 feet for a single-family and 4 feet as you what's the new code that came out. >> it has changed in the last few years it is hard in san francisco because of the zero lot lions but a multiple they see require 5 feet but only 3 feet for a single-family home or. >> okay public comment on this item anyone here seen we'll have rebuttal sir, you have 3 minutes. >> very briefly as far as the

arguments from the permittees to create sift it between the residents on - it creates a barrier for open space for the purposes of comfortable living is very important i don't think that setbacks while they're in may be one direction towards the rear have no purpose when it comes to the adjacent units it may be true that potential noise or disturbances not the basis for setback but setbacks are a way of creating certain barrier to too much over lapsing

between people and results perhaps an anular purchase there but the the setback 35 or 37 that's the thing it seems to me that is the answer because everything that was predicted was on the setback of 35 feet thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> okay rebuttal from the permit holder. >> if you have anything okay okay. anything from the departments no? so >> the parapet asked a question i think you kind of explained that mr. sanchez but

maybe just put a period on that. >> you know part of this is a question of the accuracy of the plans and even on the plans before you on the existing site plan they're showing the building setback 35, 11 in which case a 35 foot deck impostures into the rear yard by the way, they're showing here they are setting on the plans and the plans are stamped and signed by a licensed architect the correct dimension is setback further mr. irrationally more space it is convenient it allows them to legalize the deck but their stating the dimensions of the prophet. >> you noticed the architect didn't draw it. >> yes. which was. >> adjacent to the dimensions. >> that was i don't know who this that but the plans yeah. i

mean that's a little bit unusual. >> okay. >> thank you commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> the appellants argument hinges on whether it conforms to the required setback based on all of the detailed information from the drawings and from what the planning department said no basis to disput that the spends extends into the rear yard setback. >> can i make a motion. >> powerful to deny the appeal on the basis that the rear deck

conforms to the required rear yard setback. >> thank you. we have a motion if commissioner fung's to continue did the appeal and uphold on the basis the roof deck is okay. >> commissioner lazarus commissioner honda commissioner wilson commissioner swig that motion carries with a vote of 5 to zero and we'll call the last item on tonight calendar christopher versus the department of building inspection the property at 407 mississippi street protesting the issuance on 2016 to anton and others of alteration permit - replace the

cuisine see yard and before we begin i want to conform theres someone here on behalf of the permit holder yes great we'll given you have 7 minutes. >> i'm sorry. i'm a bit hard of hearing i don't know. i was being addressed. >> if you're the appellant court on behalf of the appellant you have 7 minutes. >> thank you, very much. commission i appreciated you're hearing this appeal okay. i with my wife are the owners ever this cottage on potrero hill only 8 hundred and 50 square feet the dispute is with the neighbor to the left on the screen in the greenhouse that is a 72

hour ours with first story our house has two virtues one 3 and soon hopefully four grandchildren living within 10 minutes walk, and, secondly, it has a gorgeous view sitting as it does on a bedrock doom of the bay with the ships that anchor and the east bay house windows gleaming into the sunset so - i'll fast forward we - the neighbors built this fence they did that without all opposed by the same sign us and

consulting us we knew a fence needed to be replaced or redone of the two events were bolted together and i had asked specifically that when that came time to build a fence we would work on it together but, in fact, over in the late summer or early fall we were absent for a long period they went ahead and built this post this fence - and in the process their contractor forcing fathom boards between the fence to pour a concrete wall broke all the bolts and your fence started to stop he will in ward and in essence i

should say and simply want to get back to where we were and the kind of fence arrangement for three or four years the fact this fence i think the permit was granted with respect to this high section i don't know if this will work the high section - no, that has absolutely no effect - i mean a larry's pointer essentially the permit was granted because this fence is about 8 feet they need a permit for that they first inspector came by and said that fence is

under 6 feet it is fine and he recommend that it get a permit for this extension this higher fence but i had invited him to come on my side of the fence and inspect the concrete wall that they had poured which was about 4 feet high so 4 feet plus 8 feet is 12 feet and significantly changed the character of our backyard it is basically so load by too high walls on - so i'm sorry - i think i need - a number 3 if we

can find it yes here it is that's fine basically, the building of that high portion of wall had this effect on our living room light and on the deck on the light on our deck in the afternoon. >> and i think it diminishes the valve our property and diminishes the environment sitting on the deck or even the living room in the late afternoon that said if we can go back to this shot we were in terms of claiming this portion is too high and this portions is pushed out four

or five feet now gumz good news the opposing a party have not not file a brief and not chosen to appear so i was contacted just last week after preparing this long and boring power point presentation to i was approached by an agent they have retained who essentially agreed to most of our demands he recognizes that the fence is too long since that pro told us imposturesn the downhill neighbors property to the extent at least 5 feet and he also says they're willing

to drop the high fence level that you see there down to the level of the not very good looking firewall portion and that is an acceptable agreement for us but i have two questions that i would address to the gentleman if we agree with the boards approval to enter into this deal does that mean that we have no further recourse to this board for enforcement because the neighbor on the other side of our neighbor had the same problem reached a private

agreement, received a promise they'll remeet and had to wait two years for them to move on the remediation i don't want to be in that position does 86 do any of the city agencies if we answer such an agreement do the city agencies retain the ability to enforce compliance, and, secondly, we will need to build a fence of rebuilt the fence that was toppled and like to cover that unsightly employee plied firewall that requires a fence rising 8 feet and i'll have to apply for a permit and hate to

lose - i hate to have that permit denied which i suppose he could appeal then but i'm wondering if there is some way to be guaranteed i'll be able to build a fence to a coffer that firewall from our side those are the questions and thank you very much for listening. >> have done. >> i am. >> okay. >> he, he is the last case and patient i'm a lawyer and past life i know nothing of construction law i prepared this long boring power point presentation i wonder if i can speed limit it into the record. >> give it to gary. >> yes. thank you very much. >> that's satisfies me and i believe that the departments will speak after you and

probably answer some of the questions and i have questions when you come back. >> i have a question now excuse me, sir to be clear when you referred the firewall the portion with the plywood and the portion up above with the exposeed stud it they're willing to remove >> yes. we firmly believe that will restore light to the living room and deck. >> thank you. okay so we'll we'll hear from the permit holder now. >> representative. >> uh-huh. >> good evening, commissioners my name is neeley run a drafting

service and the homeowners contacted me about on friday about a week ago and i visited them and the site and talked with them they're two career driven people in their 40s and busy and traffic a lot and wanted to resolve this issue and have an amicable ripper relationship with their neighbor i wrote a plan a standard site plan and construction details and sections and stuff like that i've shared that with mr. wilson this evening we'll use that to submit for a fence permit and it looks like mr. wilson is in agreement what i proposed he know my clients are also so it sounds like we have a substantial agreement on

resolving this situation. >> i have a photo you if not to see what the backyard looks at from the other side if you're interested at all. >> go ahead and place that on the overhead and place that as if you're looking at it. >> and so the upper left i'm sorry it looks dark just be looking at east out over the bay and the wall is the subject wall to the south fence line and that elevated section part we are proposing to lower for a length of 15 and a half feet and then that should fall within the

requirements of the firewall that is required by the building code lower left photo is a picture from the back property line looking at the house and the lower right picture is also a picture of the south fence line. >> so i don't have anything else to say other than the relief the board innovative the dbi of a release so we can go ahead and file argue plan and get a building permit for that fence. >> are you done, sir. >> yes. >> do you have a timeline or plan of when you'll do this. >> the plan was finished today so we're ready right away and i

understand that my client is busy they didn't act in a this fashion over a year and a half but probably everyone is motivated to take care of this now thank you. >> any questions. >> no, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> okay we'll hear from the department now. >> mr. sanchez. >> somebody. >> thank you scott sanchez planning department the permit was issued in error the permit should be denied and thai should be forced to refile the permit didn't have plans with that was not quite meeting what they described up to 10 feet can be allowed by the height of the fenced is code compliant i was concerned about the materials in the appellants brief it showed

that is expending over the rear property line and also concerns about given the typography of the site the roof deck complies with the planning code that may not be allowed a deck 3 feet above grade but it was added and exceeds that but seems to be on the neighbors property so a lot of issues they need to resolve with proper plans and permitting and you know in regards to the appellants question about the height of the fence they can have it up to 10 feet not a proper to cover the urban sightly wall but other concerns perhaps about the work that was done would you the benefit of a permit or plan but i think they need to go through the proper process and as quickly as possible. >> question mr. sanchez. >> how do you determine the in

fill that was done. >> i mean, i on the photos that the appellant had were instructive in showing basically rubble the best of your ability of the property we have historic aerial photos we have access to that show a little bit more but using the improvement for extending further back i don't know how the downhill property owner feels their, their encroaching on their property that should be addressed through proper permits and maybe representatively some of what they constructed. >> refresh any memory the native soil as disturbed. >> it should be 10 feet above the natural grade of the property would be they seem to

have done some typography in the back but maybe over the height of the fence a little bit but given the typography of the subject property is upheld so take into account but. >> the measurement is from one property side. >> correct on the subject property line. >> from the nature up to the top. >> correct. >> the maximum. >> correct. >> thank you. >> mr. duffy. >> commissioners joe duffy dbi yeah, i'm somewhat familiar with that says case i was contacted by the appellant the officer about this case and i did tell

them we'll send a brifshgs i'm not sure what happened with the fir builder inspector look it from both sides we did eventually get out there i sent in festivities or photos that was replacing in kind backyard only and side yard and compliant with the complaint now on the face of it you on that is a fence in the backyard nobody can see it, it is less than 10 foot planning don't care but issued with the plans and didn't it was stripping and then so for that reason alone you'll deny the permit not post depth or elevation nothing that on there it was a mistake shouldn't have about think by dbi and following

the complaint with the neighbor and the appellant we issued and notice of violation i'll read that a complained investigation work with the permit stole alternated retaining wall and adding 4 feet of height on top of original retaining wall making it 6 feet in height the retaining wall is located at the rear site adjacent to 511 mississippi street a wall has been constructed on top of the retaining wall ranging from 6 to 4 feet in height go approximately 40 fight in lethal and two platforms exceeding work and it was placed without beginning inspections and obtain a plan and plans should provide the details of elevation, grade from existing and the original

grade from top of wall and require the inspections to have the notice of violation and this permit must be received by the planning department prior to issuance and i want to show you some photographs if we can get the overhead this is the fence ranging in 6 to 9 foot 5 or 6 issued without plans and even see the concrete there is the old retaining wall the new wall, without poured without inspection and into the rear yard a deck coming off the back of the house i don't think it is thirty inches or less not requiring a permit more than thirty inches it does and this is a more of the fence here again, all this work was done on

that over-the-counter with no plans then sorry i have to turn this one. >> this deck here is we're going towards the rear the property line so the deck goes it is a pretty big landscaping project so we have had the fake grease this deck here is this is the rear property line exceeds it it needs to be addressed in the future permit so as i said we have a notice of violation

there was a 9 times penalty on 33 thousands of work that penalty will have to be paid but all this needs to be addressed and obviously where the planning code was taken in regards to the setbacks i'm not sure they'll be able to keep that thirty inches are less from grade didn't require a permit that is overflow room agreed so we'll need commissioner honda brought that up this is a change in those cases where is the original grade we have to go back and try to figure out that that's the the case we're dealing with so again i'm sorry this photographs shows you one of the streets behind so there's a quite a fall off as you can see i'm not sure what was done

but looks like the backyard i might have alternated to get that level they have a challenge i wish them them the best laughter. >> might be a notification all the stuff we didn't get in 0 the cases i'm glad they have someone on board and requires a full set of plans and conditions proposed what you want to do and allowed to do with the codes the building department will require some x-ray of the walls to make sure the rebar was put in size and stuff like that so they'll be a amount of work but certainly the permit is not worthy keeping it should be denied. >> thank you. >> any public comment on this

item? >> hello, my name is silvia johnson. i do had voted on a lot of papers this not here at that point, they have to have license and have to re - know city policies on this and - this should be you know also put - built you know, i had some pictures of some buildings i put together with the common areas of new construction with the beanpoles that would help shafrt

for a new area district i don't have that with me but i do you know on the day - it has an infection and can try i still have the i wanted to get it dimensional but time went by too fast there is time for me to of course i've seen doctors i went

to general and they are telling me about you know the nursing they don't do nursing so that's probable what is wrong because and was given prayers and calling other people about and i did not realize time went by fast i came here and went to my - because i've been missing - >> and missing because someone hit me like a rock and really was ill i've come out of it and still here and make sure the plan stays you know - and better ideas and buildings that - thank

you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> seeing none, then we'll have rebuttal if you have anything further to say mr. wilson you have a chance. >> okay anything from the permit holders agent. >> yes. as the agent for the owners of 507 they've hired me to do the permit expediting and i can see that we're going to have a couple of pages of drawings to fulfill the dbi they've retained me as the go between to get the construction on that ends i think that mr. wilson can be assured the project will move forward and no

delays thank you very much. >> thank you anything further from the department so commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> the departments don't want us to condition those permits. >> yeah. >> i think they're asking for or revocation. >> i think i'm in agreement one thing to the permit god bless go back for going on 5 grandkids if san francisco to deny the appeal and it didn't conform to the planning san fr deny the appeal and it didn't conform to the planning n san f deny the appeal and it didn't conform to the planning code. >> a motion to deny the permit on the basis it didn't conform to the planning code. >> commissioner lazarus

commissioner honda commissioner wilson commissioner swig that motion carries with a vote of 5 to zero and. >> there's no further business. >>

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>> hi everybody, we down here at the /ep is a center which is our pop up space down here in san francisco where we operate a store front to educate the policy from the home owner who has center which is our pop up space down here in san francisco where we operate a store front to educate the policy from the home owner who has never done anything in the house to the most advanced structure engineers we

have working around here. we we're going to here from kelly to talk a little bit about san francisco. how are you doing kelly? >> very well, thank you for having us here. >> in front of us, we have a typical soft story building. when i see this, i think this is some of the most beautiful architecture our city has. a lot of people don't know these are problematic buildings. why don't you tell us about some of the risks he we have in these buildings? >> soft stories are vulnerable in past earthquakes and the northridge earthquake to this type of building and character of building. when we talk about the soft story, what we're talking about is generally a ground story that has less wall or other /pwraeugs to resist the lateral forces that might be imposed by the earthquake. so we're looking for something that is particularly weak or soft in this ground story. now, this is a wonderful example of

what some of the residential buildings that are soft stories in san francisco look like. and the 1 thing that i would point out here is that the upper force of this building have residential units. they have not only a fair amount of wall around the exterior of the building but they also have very extensive walls in the interior and bathrooms and bedrooms and corridors and everything that has a certificate amount of brazing yea it's significantly less country /srabl in those stories. now very often, we get even a garage or storage or sometimes commercial occupancy in this ground story. that very often not only has a whole lot less perimeter wall but it often has little or no wall on the interior. that wall is the earthquake bracing and so he see very significant bracing in the top floor and very little on the bottom. when the

earthquake comes and hits, it tries to push that ground floor over and there's very little that keeps it from moving and degrading and eventually /paoerblly keeping it from a collapse occurring. so we know they're vulnerable because of this ground story collapsing >> is this only a problem we see in sentence france? san francisco? >> no, this is certainly a national problem. more acute in western but more up to california, washington, moving out into other states. this kind of building exist and this kind of building is vulnerable. >> when you're involved with the community safety, this is a different way of thinking about these types of things. we had a community group of over 100 people involved and upper 1 of them. tell us about * how that

conversation went. why did we decide as a city or a community to start fixing these types of buildings? >> there were a lot of aspects that were considered well beyond just the engineering answer that these are vulnerable. and that effort brought in a lot of people from different aspects of the community that looked at the importance of these buildings to the housing stock and the possible ramifications of losing this /houbgs in the case of an earthquake. the financial implications, the historic preserve vacation s implication as you mentioned, these are very handsome looking buildings that are importance to the tourist city ask which make san francisco something that people are interested from outside in coming and visiting. >> it's such animation story when you think about the 10 years that the community spent talking about this /seurb but we actually did something about it. now we have an order unanimouses put in place to

protect 100,000 residents in san francisco and retrospective in 2020. so on behalf of residents and employees in san francisco, we want to say thank you for the work you've done in pushing this forward and making people more aware of these issues. >> and it was a fantastic community effort. >> so in an earth quake, what happens in these kinds of buildings? >> what happens when an earthquake comes along is it moves the ground both horizontally and vertically. it's mostly the horizontal that we're worried about. it starts moving the building back and forth and pushing on it. when you see i'm pushing on it, the upper stiff of the wall stay straight up but the lower floors, they actually collapse just like i did there. >> luckily, we can put this building right back up where it came

from so it's a lot easier. now kelly, obviously these aren't real frame walls here but when you talk about buildings, what makes the property for stiff? >> the easiest and most cost-effective type of bracing you can put in is either put in a brand new wall or to potentially go in and strengthen a wall that's already there where you don't need to have an opening is where you maybe have a garage door or access to commercial space, you might go to a steel frame or other types of bracing systems that provides the strength and stiff if necessary but at the same time, allows continued use of that area. but some combination of walls or frames or other tools that are in the tool kit that can bring the building up to the strength that's required in order to remove the vulnerability from the building so that when ground shaking comes, it in fact is a whole lot more resistant

and less vulnerable. ideally, this story down here would be made as strong and stiff as the floors above. >> if i'm a property owner, what is the first thing i should do? >> the first thing you should do is find professional that can come in and help you evaluate your building in order to, 1, figure out that indeed it does need to be retro fitted and 2, give you some idea of what that retro fit might look like. and third, evaluation and design to help you determine the retro fit requirement. >> well kelly, i can't thank you enough for being here today. thank you so much for your wealth of information on how we can take care of our soft story problem in san francisco. and you the viewer, if you have any questions, please feel free to visit our website

>> hello, i am with the recreation and parks department. we are featuring the romantic park location in your backyard. this is your chance to find your heart in santa and cisco with someone special. -- san francisco with someone special. our first look out is here at buena vista park, a favorite with couples and dog walkers. both have a significant force. a refreshing retreat from urban life.

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east bay. it is one of the best kept secrets in the city. it is hardly ever crowded. on any given day, you will run into a few locals. , bought a 37 bus to get there without any parking worries. for legged friends can run freely. there is also a patch of grass for the small box. >> it is a great place. it is a wonderful place to have these kinds of parks. that dog owners appreciate it. >> take time to notice of the wildfires that are on the grassland and keep your head out on the lookout for hawks and other bird life. be sure to take your camera and be prepared to take a view of the city will not forget. it has a beautiful red rock formations. you could watch the sunrise over the bay.

this is another one of our great lookouts. we are at mount davidson. 928 feet. this is the place for you to bring someone special. to not forget that dogs and enjoy all of the pathways and greenery that surrounds you. it provides a peaceful oasis of open space and great hiking trails. the spectacular view offers a perfect place to watch the sunrise or sunset with someone you love. >> it is a good place to get away from the hectic life of the city. come up here and listen to nature, i get some fresh air. that view is fantastic. >> where sturdy shoes.

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concrete streets, cars, we have this oasis of the natural environment. it reminds us of what the history was. >> there is a section for dogs and plenty of parking. transit is available on the 28 bus to get you very easily. the part is ada -- park is ada accessible. it is also a natural lake. this is your chance to stroll around the lake and let the kids run free. it also has many birds to watch. it is a place to find and appreciate what you -- a wonderful breath of fresh air. come and experience in this park and enjoy the people, picnics,

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have time with you. everybody has questions about what we are doing and how we are getting the navigation centers started and some of these improving the [inaudible] but it is about [inaudible] i think all of you are interested in that. i want to let you know

[inaudible] also answer any question you have and how you [inaudible] operation here and working citizen center and how we help you do what we can do make sure that we have permanent housing and what we need to do to protect that. i want to say thank you to the soccer team and if everybody want s have to have a seat [inaudible] i will have sam talk about the standards of the navigation center because we are opening up another one. [inaudible] we have one at civic center and market street that will convert to a navigation sent squr have a temp raer shelter, about 150 people and building yet again another navigation center and going to a community

[inaudible] navigation center is our cities best effort to have something that is better than a shelter. when you go to the it shelter system [inaudible] have to line up and then have to leave and while you are at the shelter there isn't a lot happening there. maybe at next door center you may get [inaudible] foobe able to [inaudible] what we are trying to do is use [inaudible] on a every day basis to make sure you got [inaudible] and make sure you can visit the dentist and make sure you get a nurse to check up on you what is going on with your health and get your benefits together and make sure you have access to [inaudible] and all the other programs that state has along with the city. healthy san francisco.

[inaudible] the main think about the navigation center is we try to [inaudible] shelter group jz bring a partner in. you can bring animals, we have pets, we have all [inaudible] shower and 24/7 access to water and bathroom services. [inaudible] we want to do more of the navigation center, they cost a lot because we have 24/7 services on site and it is all [inaudible] the ultimate aim is once you get there and we provide you with all the benefits qu case management we will also be inviting you to ta [inaudible] permanent home somewhere in the city and in addition to the navigation centers we are now opening up some 200 additional units on top of the

500 unit we did last year, we have another 200 opened up. we have to open when we can find them. right now the 200 units are parts of master leasting the single room occupancy hotels and refurbish them and make sure all the bathrooms and working and water and fire exits are working and master lease them so they not just owned by the property owner but we actually control and manage them. i want to have sam go throall that with you and how you can qualify. we invite you to the navigation center when we can have a bit of your background and information and from there the navigation centers open up to permanent housing. we have hundreds of new housing going on and now-whautd what we have done, i'll talk about why we created a new department

on homelessness so we can coordinate all the stuff that happens amust just [inaudible] >> thank you, mayor. [applause] it is real a a honor kwr privilege to be here today and the amazing work that [inaudible] a model to how we are look and approach homelessness in general and approach it in a way that is respectful, understanding and people are in crisis and people that [inaudible] will be the ones making the big change and that is [inaudible] we need to create those opportunities so people can take advantage of it kw support people. [inaudible] so much we can do at any one time so we need to work together to make sure those opportunities are available to everyone. work strategic and

smart how we make the opportunities available. right now as the mayor said we had one year with this exairmt at the navigation center and the idea was people speenchsing homelessness that are on the street and not being able to take advantage of the housing opportunities like you do right here. i have 3 seconds to talk with the staff here and they explained how they take advantage of the coordinateed entry system and work we are doing with them and that is a asset for helping people get into housing. [inaudible] and make the opportunities available to those who most need them and not just if you are in a certain program or certain [inaudible] to get them and if you are not you don't get them at all.

one of our core things is we [inaudible] beautiful program like this one here that works today. we have amazing outreach teams. we have people working very hard in shelter jz make them as humane and good as possibility. we have navigation center [inaudible] they are linked into one system and this is the opportunity we have norming a new department. let me tell you, it isn't easy to change thing s for a city. that is what we know, right? everybody is used to how we have been doing it for a long time but my experience is we can do better and have to do better and part is getting our ducks in a row [inaudible] only one department [inaudible] really help us get our act together and keep very

strategic and [inaudible] as much as we can and create as many opportunity as we can. there is tremendous demand for shelter in our city and we know that people want to get into housing. how do we build the system that helps us make homelessness rare and brief event in someones life and had they return to housing and stay in housing and never center to come back to homelessness. this is our goal. we know it isn't a easy journey but got to get there and so today we have a opportunity to do some brainforming brain storming and have done this around the city in different shelter jz housing because your expertise will help us make sure we are headed in the right direction. it isn't a one time thing but this help

uzus-now we collect all the different program jz look that different parts of city government service homelessness and try to gather them together into one department and while we do all this work and things are up in the air we want to make sure we get your input about-we will make changes, what are the previous changes and the most meaningful change s for you. i appreciate it today and [inaudible] do you want to say [inaudible] >> i think we ought to get to know each other, that is the main thing. if the city government or amount your landlord then tenet landlos rd hato know each other and think that is the way to approach is it is everybody in the shelters deserves a end goal, which is permanent housing so that is what we are trying to do. it isn't easy.

[inaudible] very expensive city. you see a lot of construction going on and we are trying to get the profit from that to support our low income housing and make sure we also have enough to have a housing for the homeless and it is beginning to work. we are getting more resources bought it is difcult to find the land sometimes. we will run out of sro's and thinking how we can [inaudible] it will take time but we are talking with labor unions and make sure we have [inaudible] i will have to say [inaudible] we can prioritize and prioritize for [inaudible] any of you veterans we are prioritizing veterans.

people got children, families off the street, we will be helping them very quickly. we have most of you who might already have a place but maybe you are under some kind of stress, maybe there is eviction going on we can help with that as well because part of our program is also keep people in the places that they have as long as they are doing their part to make sure they can stay as well. we have priorities that we can help and [inaudible] benefits you didn't know about [inaudible] we can do all that. i want to make sure you feel welcome in the city and we will do everything-we hope that you will not have the only choice of staying on the street. we believe staying on the street is dangerous, unhealthy. even if you find a good place you always have to look

over your shoulder to see what will happen and don't want that stress on your life even though some may have experienced that, that isn't the end game in the city of san francisco. the end game is we want to help people off the streets and into supportive long term housing with the city continuing support to make sure you are stable in every you do from food to health to the benefits that you have to a place to live. that is what we want. that is why we have this department of homelessness . [inaudible] educate about the complexy of local government, that is my job but one reason we haven't been able to move fast enough in getting more housing is we have 5 to 6 different departments and nobody said i'm responsible to ending your homelessness, not one department said that was their

purpose. now we are creating a department when we touch you and help organize and give you support, we will say you and i will work together and will end homelessness for you at some point in time and do everything we can do to get ready for that. [inaudible] rather than, it is up to you or go there or go there or sorry that didn't work or something happened to work, sorry can't help you. that is what is going on [inaudible] they are doing this. i worked in city government for 25 years and [inaudible] understand how that feels. i want to make sure when we have this department as we are doing it, everybody who you come in contact with i have a how can i help you and your homelessness situation. how can we do that

together? this is what the department is all about. and hopefully we get something where your pets are welcome and partners are welcome where you and your personalty are welcome. we'll work together on all the rules. so, maybe at this time we'll open it up for your questions and input and we have a few things that- >> we have structure later so maybe this is the time we can ask questions [inaudible] questions? anybody? >> anybody want to introduce themselves? >> [inaudible] fascinated with the [inaudible] appreciate it and help you out all the way. >> how long have you been without a home? >> [inaudible] 10 years. >> that's is your end game too

[inaudible] >> [inaudible] i have a catch 22 thing where [inaudible] i can feel it is hard -diversify city. [inaudible] off and on-on-[inaudible] good job and

[inaudible] i can understand [inaudible] >> [inaudible] make sure you understand we are sensitive to that. [inaudible] >> section 8 works in the same way or how does that work? >> section 8 is a housing authority and we can make sure-we are working on all section 8 certificate members so if you have a section 8 certificate we can help you, but the challenge now is even with section 8 voucher it is really hard to find unit in the city. we actually have been placing

people outside the city with a section 8 certificate as long as they have that certificate, but if you want to apply for it there is a long waiting list but we can assist. >> i want to get the city. >> we work to make sure there a prefference for people that are homeless [inaudible] >> i just want to be a tourist. >> [inaudible] i want to thank the city and the people that have been helping with the outreach team to help the homeless with animals. [inaudible] it makes it rough for the animal, so i have to say the team has been really helpful as far as helping him

with shots and getting him healthy and [inaudible] as far as resources there is a lot available for pets and that helped a lot. >> thank you, >> thank you. [background noise, unable to hear] >> sometimes it can be daunty to go through that especially people that have been out of [inaudible] people to get back into that and get [inaudible] need that assistance [inaudible] might need something that moy may be too much for them and may need that extra hand [inaudible] help do that and help

them through those stages so they are not overwhelmed through the process and may help empower them as they go through the steps s they can do these things and may help in the housing process. >> yes, [inaudible] dart team which is community service so when they do the coordinateed entry like here, they give a short application, a one pager but in order to take advantage of the federal government subsidies and all the [inaudible] we do to open up a building, they come and help do all the application and walk it through so that it isn't all on-the government [inaudible] is the government. [inaudible] we take responsibility for that and the eligibility is basically how in need you are. how long

you have been homeless and health condition you face see we take responsibility for that process [inaudible] work with people off the street and give them the services. part the idea is learning what is working now, what the strengths are and think those are some the strengths but they are in pockets and need to broaden it out to make it more successful. >> it isn't just the brick and mortar. i think you are right [inaudible] can we make sure everything is going okay even when you are in because i think checking up and have two way response on that and making sure everything is right that not another death happens where you are on the road to where you want to go, that is what we are trying to do here. before,

[inaudible] everybody said you go there and you go there and i think [inaudible] >> [inaudible] >> i appreciate places like this where you can talk honestly about what we are trying to do and get information out. i want to thank christine because she and the center is valuable to north beach and a place where people feel comfortable but who they are and what they need and we'll come back and answer more question squz hopefully we'll nob nub get you to long term housing. alright? thank you very much. appreciate it. [inaudible] [inaudible] [applause] [train whistle blowing]