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you to the side and it isn't because we with ogres it is just that is the rule. >> iletm 2, discussion and possible action on 160, 383. amended the code to prohibit it sale of [inaudible] including packing materials made from poly styrene foam or [inaudible] january 1, 2017 and affirming the planning deparnlt determination under the california environmental quality act. discussion and possible action item. the presentsers are connor johnson,

aid supervisor breed and guillermo rodriguez. >> i will read a brief statement and happy to take questions you may have on the len legislation. 3 days before we celebrated the 47th day president breed introduced [inaudible] after months och work with department oof environment she introduced the ordinance to ban the sale of poly styrene packing materials including the packing peanuts, cooler squz ice chests, pool and beach toys and dock float, buoys and other marine products. the legislation also bans the use oof stirophone packing materials for items package within san francisco.

we are a city prized for the natural beauty surrounding by water on 3 sides. we have a moral recollect public health and financial responsibility to protect from pollutant like poly tirene foam. it can't be recycled through the blue bin and never decomposes and litter on the sleets, parks and public places are where are a stop from the bay or ocean. plastic pollution continues to worsen. it breaks into smaller non biodegradable pieces. poly styrene contains a chemical called styrene metabolized after ingestion and threatens to food chain including humans who heat contaminated wild

life. according to to u.s. flood and drug administration it leeches into food and drink. the science is clear, this is a environmental and public health pollutant z have to reduce the use. more than 100 u.s. cities have ordinances restricting poly styrene and many local businesses and national corporations have successfully replaced poly styrene. we in san francisco prohibited service food in poly styrene in 2007. thanks to a [inaudible] through the work of dethe department of environment staff that has all must one00 percent compliance rate. what supervisor breeds legislation proposes is the next step. supervisor peskins

law addressed the public impacts. now we are [inaudible] this is overdue. other jurisdictions like seattle and palo alto passed this. with that in mind our office put together the toughest antipoly styrene law in the country including new use that have not been regulated. we replace productwise repsychoable ones and there are amyl on the market, continue the work towards zireo waste and protect the public health and natural beauty. on behalf of president breed i want to thank russell long of sustainable san francisco who is here today. clean water action. jack [inaudible] guillermo rodriguez of department of environment and guillermo rodriguez is here. the san francisco chamber of commerce was helpful convening businesses and help

improve the legislation, your executive director regina who is my prezsiser. the california grocer association, wall greens, the postal chase and all the companies that helped refine the legislation and legendary city attorney tom owen. this legislation sh carefully crafted to help businesses comply kw and accommodate. we provided a waver condition for those cases where there is no feasible alternative to poly styrene. the department of environment drafted a waver for pharmacy squz drug companies who ship medications. we wirk with grogess. goods or foods outside the city are not subject for the ban and nat isn't lack of will but lack of legal authority. reusing the materials is still allowed and

donating poly styrene and usesing those materials is still allowed as well. the engoal is clear, stop the environmental and public health harm. poly styrene packaging is used for maybe a week or two and sometimes less than that and we toss the item and it lasts for another few00 thousand years in the land fill or in the bay or ocean. the sitee committed to zero waste over a decade ago and the only wie we can achieve it is confront products like this. poly sty rene doesn't biodegrade and isn't recycleable and it is a pollute squnt there are better option mpt for our environment and public health and behalf of president breed and many environmental groups i ask for your support and happy to answer questions. >> thank you very much. commissioner adams. >> i know you did a lot of

outreach, have you talked to people such as [inaudible] postal chase and fed exto insure there are not unique situations they may come up as far as packaging are concerned? >> the owner of the postal chase was present at loos one meeting and provided input. i can't remember if [inaudible] coordinateed that or the chamber. we try today accommodate the needs of those business. one reason you see the language to reause or donate package. >> thank you. >> commissioner dooley >> have you contacted the flural industry? we am a flurest and we have uses at least at this time cannot be

replaced so wonder if a exemption can be carved out. >> we have and to be candid we are not entirely sure of the use your industry employ constitute packing materials. it is the nature the display or flower arrange. ment. there is flexibility in the sense the department of environment can issue a waver to a individual business or entire use case but also we set the date of january 1, 2017 so there is time for those specific cases to be worked on. >> thank you your preezen sentation. i have a question. for a merchant who gets poly styrene packaged products, does the business have sth the

obligation to repackage? >> no, i can point to the specific language if you like. that would be 1604 f i believe addresses this. if the prepared food is packaged outside the city and sold or provided to the the consumer in the same packaging in which it was originally packaged that will be not subject to this prohibition. >> that is the same would hold true for a television. >> is there any effort communicate with neighboring cities and other legislatures to kind of come up with a uniform approach and avoid the fragmentation? >> within california? >> yes

>> russell long can probably speaker better to that than me. one the important role san francisco plays in environmental policy in california is be at the forfront and think we doing that with clean power and drug take back legislation and that will spur state wide action in sacramento. that is our hope. >> commissioner yee, riley. >> my question is if the business had already [microphone not working] can they use it until it is gone or do they have to get rid of it right away? >> that came up in the course of our tracking the legislation. that is one the primary reason we set the date as january 1, 2017 to give 6

months if not more time for that to be sold off and think guillermo rodriguez can speak to this better than i can. they try to be accommodated with businesses that have existing stock and not be punitive and more educational and supportive. guillermo rodriguez can speak to that. >> thank you for the presentation. a couple questions. so, i do remember when this was first implemented and my familys business we transferred to compostable spoon squz forks and all that and it was a 4 or 5 times original cost so context how this is felt on a small business . so we should consider the cost that that will be happening if there are plans

for offsetting or compensating folks we need to look that expenses. for comcoast and recycling fees that are continually rising, i'm curious if that is something you have thought about as perhaps compost might increase for some businesses or recycling with new materials and also just doing the numbers how much we pay for that a year and it is pretty sizely. so, those were two comments, questions i wanted to ask and see if you had discussion with those type of expenses going up. for the violation, was curious how you will regulate that if there will be sting operations or just check ins or warnings sent without communication or just what the apperates was for that. >> congratulations by the way

on your appointment. it has been a few months. well earned i remember working with you before you were a commissioner. let me take those in reverse. as i said to your fellow commissioner the department orphenvironment try tooz be collaborative and avoid as punitive as possible. they have a track record, they established a precedent with the 2006 legislation work wg businesses rather than aagainst them and have been able to achieve that near 100 percent of compliance because of success work wg businesses. i'll let him address that in more detail. with respect to disposal cost, the main driver is black bin and reducing in the black bin. if there is impact with disposal cost i think it will be a net

reduction because we take material out of the black stream. the other interesting thing about poly styrene is it massive and mostly air. to the extent we reduce the volume from the black bin we have net reduction on disposal cost. with respect to the cost of the materials, there is a downward trends in that regard as this industry matureed. russell long and guillermo rodriguez can speak in greater detail than me. i worked in bio plastic so know about it and things were evolving quickly and new products were coming on the market and prices going down. this is a exciting industry and see a lut of competitive products that can perform the same service at competitive prices now.

>> i have a follow up question about section 1606 about implementation talks about exemption. just question of process so the viewers can understand, what is the exemption process? how do you seek exemption? is there is a process in place? i was reading and just for clarification. >> it is designed to be i think careful in the sense the department wants to be very judicious about who they issue exemptions to and why and also responsive. the determination is madethality a exemption is needed the department can move relatively quickly. we saw that as a example in the departments ability to draft a waver for cold medical shipping which they have done in parallel to the introduction the legislation. for the process i would differ to pl

rodriguez. let's make it as judicious as possible. >> you have gross income less than $500 thousand and it sets forth the requirements, correct? >> that is if you pursue a particular type of waver for financial hardship. >> an industry that would be effected would seek a waver, is that what you are saying? >> correct. >> you say you haven't exhausted [inaudible] thatheremay be other businesses that would be effected and follow this process? >> it is possible and why we wanted the flexibility in the legislation. >> any other comments? i encourage there to be a application for exemption so it

isn't a mystery. you should have a notice or application for exemption for anyone in the future. not only someone that requires exemption and not heard about this but also anticipating there things in the future that may require a exemption. the other is perhaps a application for depletion permit of some type if someone has a large store of material thal want to get rid of it, it is better if you apply in advance rather than waiting around and i have a birch of stuff i like per mission to do it proactively. the only way to get proaction is make it available by way of having a form or application for such things. both depletion permit and a application for a waver. the other thing is, is there a list

of exemptions or buried in the legislation? is there a appendix that lists the current exemptions? >> which exemptions? >> exemption tooz the law. >> the twhai law is set up are things that are banned and in certain sections there are donating material and reusing donating material so those reside in 1605 d >> you have to go through the provisions to find the exemptions >> it is structured so food service wear [inaudible] 1605 lists most of the products mostly enumerated >> i want to clarify there wasn't a appendix missing.

interesting apple computer went through a period getting rid of stiprophone and reintroduced it. to eliminate and reinstitute it i remembered when it happened and thought that was weird so maybe we can go to the south and try to get them to eliminate stirophone. i think the goals are lotable so unless there are comments here and guillermo. guillermo rodriguez department of environment. happy to be here on this item and next. from department of environment perspective in response to questions raised in thetholful

discussion here, approach to zero waste is looking what is left in the black bin and when we look at problem products how do get them out of the system. this ordinance is a good outhgrowth to the 2006, 07 ordinance where we banned poly styrene from food service products. we are talking about 5,000 business in san francisco that work with the city and the method of enforcement since our department was in charge of that was working with businesses. our goal is try to change hearts and minds and behavior and find work wg businesses all want to do the right thing and a lot may require time and education and linkages and that is our approach to look at enforcement. coner mentioned

the department indicated a categorical exemption for medical equipment that is shipped and maintained at a certain temperature. we looked at alternatives and there are not a lot yet but will work with the industry to find alternatives. a lot of discussion and thanks to the leadership of president breed and coner have brought together businesses from all type squz answered questions being educated and providing businesses with new information. a lot of the material that would be compliant under this ordinance, they costs are very compareable to current cost of poly styrene foamsy 7 years ago that may have been different than today but there are a lot more alternatives. we think it is the right step and our approach

to the whole process will be one of education, providing time to businesses to comply. we won't do sting operations, that is not what we are designed to do. we rely on the public to inform us if they feel that a business may not be complying so we work with that business to try to find information out, try to resolve things before you get into formality and that is our goal. with respect of being clear about the waver process, we'll take that back and bring that to our staff wile who will manage the process. >> thank you very much. alright, at this point we'll call for public comment. any members of the public that would like to comment on this item? >> i will call mr. henry [inaudible] first who filled out a speaker card. >> if you would like it speak

we'll call those who submit a speaker card first. you are not rir required to submit a speaker card. >> [inaudible] i commend the environmental folks for doing something about the products being out there and doing what they do to our environment. however, i do thipg think also we are [inaudible] that have to be disposed of. there are companies that will come and pick those up. i'm thinking in a packaging industry [inaudible] the plates and forks but the packaging industry. as commissioner dooley said in the flower

industry sort of unless they come out with a product that can be done right away but they haven't done that yet so like to see a exemption to that. if we can somehow get the businesses who do use the products to drop those off if i bought a package and go to postal [inaudible] or to flowers stores and take them in that would be a great thing to do that help both the consumer and also the small business. so, i think they need to think about who should be exemption and shouldn't from the legislation to make it mandatory everybody does not have this product. what is interesting i remember the first time they used 3 different things and people said they won't do that. they are. people are using the

recycling bins for the paper and food waste and regular waste. it is a matter of education. if you get the information out to the public-if you have the styrofoam product you can take it to local business thaet will take it and do that. thank you. >> next. >> russell long, please. >> commissioners i'm russell long, sustainablef is. thank you for entertaining the ordinance today. i wanted to just start by saying that i spent much of my youth on sale boats as a professional sale boat racer and went on to be americas cup skipper and have been around the oceans och the world and the trash that is accumulating there that it continues to get worse every single year and still sail it

is a travesty and it is plastic of which poly styrene is a parlt. according to the world economic forum they protect by 2050 there were be more plastic in the ocean that fish. study of national academy science up to 90 percent orphsea birds had plastic pieces in their guts. they predict using the modeling by 2050 the figure will be 99 percent. this is a terrible problem and i'm very thankful to be in a sate that took the initiative and leadership. 8 or 9 years ago we led the effort to start clamping down on this and the result today is

that dozens and dozens of cities across california followed our lead as well as major cities around the u.s. [inaudible] portland and seattle. many are following what we did before and have the opportunity to take it to the next level going after the other product categories. i think the issues being raised have to do with cost and i exploreed the cost issues with some of the manufacturers, the comp estable products have gotten cheaper. we talked about a chocolate [inaudible]

wu found a com postable sty rophone product, 100 percent, same price. they were thrilled and don't oppose the legislation as a result. same in sea seattle we spoke to the people using [inaudible] they were ver concerned about the new ordinance they had up there and found out the com postable products all the same sizes, same price- >> thank you very much. thank you fl work you do. next up, please. >> next speaker, sill via johnson. >> patricia [inaudible] i have been hearing this for a long time. i think it is a good idea. my question is, is

the enforcement number 1, and whether enforcement will be selective or not. there some small businesses thatd won't be able to use up all this product before january 17. possibly make it a little longer. particularly the small ones because they don't use as much a day as large ones. i'm for this another reason is we have a person in san francisco who takes his stirophone, crumples it up and puts strychnine and puts it on the sidewalks and dogs and cats come and they die. my dog was hit with it but i cost it fast enough. we need to look that enforcement of the to make sure it is equal and not just towards one industry or one small business. that is the big issue as far

as i'm concerned. >> thank you very much. next speakers please. >> next speaker is sill via johnson. >> i'm talking about exemption to food and organizations. [inaudible] with childrens toys. we have examples. [inaudible] exemptions for nothing is you know [inaudible]

we have other products that we [inaudible] guarantees that we have now or combination [inaudible] with congress and we haven't even thought about this or [inaudible] organizations that we don't even understand because of things that [inaudible] jewels and diamonds [inaudible] a lot

of things are missing and [inaudible] it takes a lot of consideration with the [inaudible] things that has to be done with you know,

[inaudible] >> thank you. next speaker, please. anymore people that like to make public comment? >> good afternoon. my name is eric [inaudible] president of cienty quat row. one thing i suggest is including a list of where they can final alternative products. i think it will make it convenient for the businesses just a list. and also make sure the notification is in different languages. we have a lot of businesses that are latino and don't speak or read english well and make sure there is a phone number to contact someone. one thought is someone has a large supply and maybe providing a credit to incent vise them to switch to

the new products. thank you. >> great suggestion. thank you. any other members of the public that would like to comment? seeing none public comment is closed. commissioner comments? submissioner zouzounis. >> i just want to have a discussion among or ourselves contextualizing this as our city a leading the way with moving forward with zero waste and the state programs that are trying to help small businesses get to that place at the same speed are also being gutted and a lot of the tax credit said bigger businesses may be getting and smaller businesses to upgrade the equipment, they are having trouble keeping up with the progressive pace and

so the more we can think about the bigger picture here as we want to move the city forward in regards to our environmental compliance is what kind of bureaucracy and fees fall on-when can we regulate and that is the businesses in the cities and bureaucracy they have to go to once you make all these things cumulative so the recycling is more than the black bin. the grocer corner and grocery store industry for one and the fines are another thing. these things fall on people and add additional bureachyeracy and figuring out the business end a lot of small businesses don't have capacity for so want to raise how can we

[inaudible] a lot of this the regulatory stuff and there are lines thew stay in compliance will fall on a lot of city agencies to [inaudible] how do we make these resources available? how do we comp sate so small businesses can keep up with this pace and just want today raise that. >> commissioners any other comments? we have a motion? >> i make a motion to approve this and that we have the application to go along with this for >> recommendation for application for exemption? >> yes. i also like what eric says if we can make sure it is in multi languages i think that is very important. >> and just noting the suggestion of a list of

potential alternative suppliers is a great one. >> can we also add all theremay be inindustries not addressed that they need to be examined for possible exemption or phasing out of their product. i think that would be important. i know the flural industry will need time to catch up. right now there are products that are not really replaceable and so there may be other industries in that same situation. >> okay. to refine the motion. >> so, application for waver. multilingual. depletion >> application for depletion permit.

>> possible credit- >> i don't know where credits would come from. >> where would you get a credit from? >> that was a suggestion brought up for the public. >> who do you get the credit from? >> maybe we can work with [inaudible] >> we can put it out for consideration in the motion. there may be industries that require a application for waver and a depletion permit. they already have provisions in this legislation for allowing future exemptions so that is covered. that is flural industry. if you can read back the motion of support. >> motion to approve recommendation for application for exemption in multiple

languages and notice a list of suppliers as well as- >> an application for a depletion permit. >> application for depletion permit. >> if someone has material that will last longer than the 6 month horizon that is allowed for. >> okay. >> and if we want to add as well the recommendation that a consideration for some type of credit if someone wants to dispose of material that is not depleted. doesn't hurt to ask. you don't get what you don't ask for. we have that motion. is there a second? >> second. >> alright. commissioner adams; yes. dooley, yes. dwight, yes. tour-sarkissian,

yes. yee, riley, yes. zouzounis, yes. the motion is approved 6 to nothing. >> good job. >> thanks gentlemen. appreciate it. thank you for all the good work you are doing. we are on to item number 3. >> item 3, discussion and possible action on letter of support regarding proposal changes to california beverage container recycling and litter reduction act. the bottle bill. the presenters are guillermo rodriguez and kevin drew from department of environment. >> welcome back. >> thank you again for the record guillermo rodriguez san francisco department of environment. i'm here to talk about a issue this commission engaged in the past both formally the leadership of your director presenting interest and concerns of merchants in

san francisco when it comes to redemption allowing san franciscans to be able to get their nickel and dimes back and also some of you commissioners individually have also been leaders in this discussion. as folks may know that 1990 there were 30 certified redemption centers in san francisco that allowed consumers the ability to redeem their nickels and dimes for crv related material. today there are only 8 and san francisco we celebrate how successful we are at waste diversion. 80 percent deversion from land fill, probably one of the best in the complaintry and when you think about providing convenience defined by the state of california for allowing individuals to redeem their nickels and dimes, we are at the bottom. it is a struggle you all understand. the challenge has always been that

is a state law and no jurisdiction that the city, the board, this commission our department has other than to be advocates to find a path and communicate that to our elected representatives in sacramento and the state agency responsible for the program for the bottle bill. ewe have for the past 2 years working with stakeholders, small businesses, our grocers, city departments, all trying to find alternative way tooz change the scenario in san francisco. the state is active as many may know in enforcement of the bottle bill making sure there is compliance. again for background information, essentially if there is no certified recycling center near your business of operation and you sell beverages then you are required to redeem in store. that poses unique challenges

for small businesses with very limited space. the bottle bill was designed supermarket with large parking lots are the primary vehicle, it works in other parts of the state. san francisco the transit first city focuses to reduce parking and try to get people to walk, bike and use public transit as modes of transportation in san francisco so we don't have huge parking lots to have these operation in. yet, san franciscan still want to redeem and get their nickels and dimes back. we do a great job at curb side but again individuals have a right to get their 5 cents or 10 cents back. what we have been trying to do is work with rks cal recycle and believe we have a pathway. they recognize san franciscos connumdrum and our policies and believe we may be able to work

out a solution. the way the bottle bill is crafted t is extremely technical and every aspect is enumerated in state code so any change requires change to the legislation and so you have to go ask 80 assembly members and 40 senators to join in a change and hopefully get the administration to sign this. it is a challenge aspeth but believe we is a pathway. one thing the department works on is try to communicate to the san francisco delegation, senator leno and tang and chew looking for a solution and budget fix in the process to try to give san francisco some pilot status outside of the state definition of convenience so we can create a alternative model that works. we are informed the state is open to that idea so we are pursuing

the conversations. cal recycle will continue to enforce the bottle bill and engaged with your director and trying to address those issues but communicating that to our delegation i think it is important for them to hear from the voice of small business in san francisco is important and we encourage the commission to consider the draft letter before you. kevin drew probably our rez dent expert on the bottle bill and i are here to answer questions but hope you get your voice heard in sacramento on a pathway to create a framework how residents can get their nickel jz dimes back if they so choose. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner tour-sarkissian. >> i had a question since you had the opportunity to talk to us about the pathway and alternative solution, you

mentioned the letter and support of that, why don't you give us a synapsis what you think the solution would be in san francisco. >> i'll start off and please kevin join in. what the city provided cal recycle to think how we provide convenience. again, the traditional model is for me to walk fl to a store and bring back my can and get my 5 cent reduction. it happens at point of sale with the cash register. we think there are alternative ways to do that. traditional recycling centers make sense in the city. we also raised the idea of reverse vending machines so options for people to get their nickel jz dimes back. we also looks at new technology where people drop off their material

and at different locations and would leave and the back operations would sort it and identify what material it is and credit that individual with their account. we also looked at the idea of a mobile program meaning, why does a recycling center need to be stationary at one location open as the state defined 6 days a week for 30 hours of operation? it doesn't make sense. why can't we have one day on a monday located in x district and tuesday somewhere else but predictable for residents to understand that or maybe it a combination of all these different approach jz that is what we have been raising with cal recycle at the state and they seem open to the ideas around rethinking how we define convenience. >> none of these suggested alternatives are adopted in

other cities or is there any changes? >> i will ask kevin to answer that because the answer is yes, outside of california. >> kevin drew, with department of environment. the closest example to what you are asking is in pacific beach in san diego where there was a similar problem and the state work would the local legislators to write legislation of bail passed that allowed 5 or 6 supermarkets to share in day after day monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday rotation a way to solve what is typically the state law nows requires it stays in one spot. it has worked sort of yes and no. it isn't a perfect solution but that is the best example of

what the state tried elsewhere. a slr example is rural communities where the 30 hour limit or 30 hour minimum is too great and allowed a 15 hour minimum for certain supermarkets as a way of making it compatible with the operator and compatible for the community. we are looking at these kinds of different options that the state will allow us to try in san francisco that may be allowed around the state. it is 30 years later and things have changed and supermarketers are more supermarkets are smaller parking lots. the thing is there is not a magic bullet, it is difficult situation and the

law now reverts to the small stores. commissioner zouzounis and i have spoken about this and familiar with the problem that presents for a retailer and at the same time we need to help retailers solve that problem if that will be one of the solutions. our department is here to help to work with [inaudible] and other operators to provide relief to the smaller beverage dealers. one thing i appreciate from your commission in support of this letter and perhaps later on is helping to bring together the groceries and smaller retailers to really craft a city wide solution. sort of a new network that replaces the 30 we used to have. i don't think we'll have 30 supermarket parking lots soon but we need

something and i hope commission can help as you have thinking through what those solutions will be and working with us to make them circ >> is the san diego example a mobile unit? >> i don't know the answer. i will say yes because it isn't a stationary site. it is a site that moves and mobile is something we can do. it is a technology and truck and you leave at the end of the day. >> is that permit? >> yes, it is permitted it is just people don't tend to use it. the problem is you bring it to one location 6 days in a row. it adds a cost element that is difficult for the recycleers. >> we need to put uber on this. >> that is a example how it changed >> we experienced this issue on

potrero hill. you have a small grocer who is doing food prep so it is helths and safety issue having discarded cans and bottles in the path of food prepation and space required for it. up on potrero hill where no one will haul their stuff up, i'm somewhat skeptical there is a issue foremost residents in san francisco more than a compliance issue with state of california and think most effected are those scavening for these items. the problem is large grocers can buy their way out of their responsibility and that punted down to to

small business. now the safeway and whole foods agreed they'll pay to get out of the requirement and our small growers and can't afford to pay that money. we are delighted to work on trying to figure out a way to appease sacramento and not put more pressure on our small businesses financially. commissioner zouzounis do you have a comment? >> i just want to say thank you. you are really responsive to all the freak outs of the grocers that call me about this compliance. the guys at sth state level are not as sincere in their understanding and it is hard to understand if you don't work behind a counter and inside the industry that requires this type of crv collection and what burden that actually makes on a business. i want to say thank you. curious about how this-i know the department of environment

is always good with workforce and how to pair that workforce development with improvements in the city in regards to environmental things. since i know there is informal trucks that collect bottles, in south of market i have seen them and could this in the law does it prohibit private-does it all have to be city sponsored or corporal sponsored or llc or can it be like little businesses? >> yes, the state law does allow for collectors that allows you to pick up material from individual sites and that can be a role for picking up stores to consolidate material and will have to get creative. the trucks are illegal black market but they are taking

advantage of the situation that there isn't other options so have to work with the state to be more creative how we can do this. the conservation corp made them available as a operator if we can find the space. i do want to speak-i have been in touch with department of health and will be having a meeting with them internally and hopefully have a meeting where we can help the stores understand the rules and then help them comply with the rules to the extent we can under these circumstances. we are still trying to avoid the problem but i think we need to make it clear and they were very dph was very interested doing that so think we'll get that together in the next mupth and will make you aware.

>> i encourage you to reach out to sf city. the technology group because they retunely engage in these type of civic issues and get people on a pro bono basis come up with ideas to solve the problems so that is another resource. >> that reminds the city of santa monica installed a reverse machine in a bus shelter kiosk where you get your money back there. because so much more material-so much more of the beverages are consumed on a go and that is technology where the kiosk is paid by a [inaudible] wants to get the information and have the exchange. there are technologies that can be helpful >> probably a lot of marketing data in that garbage.

>> have you seen what other states do? i'm from michigan and have the original bottle law, still a dime and they have these machines now because this was a problem in some the smaller communities and they got these machines and they are the big grocery store squz also at the liquor stores now too. i have friends who own liquor stores. they are not that expensive. i was curious why we don't see more of those here in san francisco. >> we are aware of that. one of the operator in other states do use the reverse vending machines because their cystism is in store redemption. they

built infrastructure to accept that and it works well. the companies [inaudible] which are a couple of the manufacturers of these equipment are coming to make presentations in san francisco so we will be able to with wallgreens specifically is very interested. expect to get the other grocers whole foods, safe bp way and trader joes to come to the meetings as well. it is infrastructure cost and coming up with a financing mechanism to overcome the initial capital investment. that is what the stores back east did and now we have to start from scratch here but that is one the solutions we see out there. >> thank you. >> what is the process? say we support it and write the letter, what is the next step? >> the next step is this is

approvered in the budget process which is faster than the legislative process that takes to the end oof session. this will be ready to go july 1. what it will do is it would create a pilot system that awould allow san francisco to ask the state for a laundry list of ideas to be implemented. it is going to take some time. this is not something we can turn odime on and that is why i want to also have in a parallel tract ability to help existing retailers deal with the legislation. the legislation will allow more flexibility come july and the state sosounding like they will have funding they can come along with that. >> you have in the budget by july and in sacramento you have it voted on- >> it will pass in july. >> in july. >> according to at least our

strategy. we'll get the legislation passed, then it is a questionf implementation. i think that is where we will come back to you for this city wide come to the same conclusion we have to do this collectively. safeway carried the weight for a long time and said heck with it and left and that is where we are now and need to bring everybody back to the fold as much as possible. that is the only solution. >> thank you very much. okay. open up to public comment. any members of the public that would like to comment on this item only? >> [inaudible] parts of things

that will work [inaudible] we

are seeing today. we need to see that you get your businesses and not have it scattered around. [inaudible] i think that is one reason why a lot of tourist don't come here. if we get everything [inaudible] we have more tourist [inaudible] business areas. [inaudible] >> thank you very much for your comments. alright.

commissioners, any other comments? we have action to support this effort. >> i make a motion to support the letter. >> i second that. >> commissioner adams made a motion and commissioner tour-sarkissian seconded. commissioner dooley rsh yes. commissioner dwight, yes. commissioner ortiz-cartagena, absent. commissioner yee, riley, yes. commissioner zouzounis, yes. >> commissioner adams. >> commissioner adams, yes. >> you have to ask him. >> commissioner adams, yes. >> thank you for your patience. this motion passes, 6-0. >> thank you for coming out

appreciate it. thank you for the hard work and look forward continuing the conversation. as i mentioned we are going to skip to item 9 right now and then come back to items 4-8. >> item 9, discussion and possible action on board of supervisors file number 160435 urging san francisco businesses to participate in sf biz connect by shifting additional 5 percent of spending to small and local businesses in order to support our local economy. >> good evening, my name is deanna [inaudible] as you know may sf biz connect helps encourage larger businesses to source locally. we have asked our resident to shop locally

and through the mayors office decided to start a program to ask our larger businesses to also look at local producers. sense the launch sf biz connect tippled the amont of businesses to 44 to encourage them to purchase locally. some of these examples are for instance, anchor brewing, a large-one the oldest micro breweries in san francisco, [inaudible] the warriors who are playing ordered custom chocolates from a bog patch clock lutear. a [inaudible] with such great examples we want to encourage this momentum by encourages businesses to shift 5 percent more towards looking at local producers for their business needs. in addition, to plat form sf biz connect.com encourages small

businesses to meet-allow small businesses to promote their products on line so they can show larger businesses the kinds of products they have to offer. we encourage more businesses to come out to look at these s frksf biz effect, connect small businesses to meet with purchasing agents of the larger businesses and look forward to creating this private partnership between the two to encourage local purchases. thank you and if you have any questions on this resolution. >> irem rr a huge supporter. this evolved from a convarsation at our quarterly meeting with the mayor of small business leaders which i'm a participant and on the boferd chamber of commerce where this initiative is primarily driven. another example is my company and air bnb have a business relationship based on the sf

business connect prisple so huge supporter. i have always said one of the best things the larger companies in our city can do to support the smaller businesses is buy directly from them. there are opportunities for local purchasing that escape people that buy something routinely. the more we get leadership of our comps in san francisco to communicate that message down the ranks is better. they have mixer jz meet and greets and there is one coming up this week or next as small business week. thank you very much for your support and the supervisors support for this initiative. supervisors-commissioner yee riley. >> so, this business san

francisco sf biz connect is in existence for one year so what was the result? >> 44 businesses have committed to shopping locally. we also are listed 200 small business on the portal right now so we want to encourage this get more small businesses to display their [inaudible] on that portal and continue to connect as commissioner dwight said additional events. thal beginning is only a year, we encourage more ideas, more ways that our larger businesses in the city can connect with the smaller businesses, >> how do wu outreach to the small business? >> through the office of economic and workforce development they do outreach through that and include the small businesses through the

portal and by make thg larger businesses aware of that opportunity. with those partnerships and events we hope to garner more success with this resolution with the small business appreciation week. we introduced this resolution two weeks ago but holding to have it heard on the 24 with small business appreciation week so the supervisors can let all the small businesses know about this opportunity and hopefully let other businesses know as well. >> oewd and san francisco chamber of commerce collaborate on the meet and greets and this is the little b to big b component of shop local. we have shop and dine the 49 and then american express sponsor shop small and have a separate shop local efforts. those are business to consumer efforts

and this is b to b side of that initiative and so we have the support of mayor and oewd and collaboration with chamber of commerce who has their own small business working group. there is a lot of effort. organizing the events requires resources on both especially at the chamber and also oewd but we appreciate the collaboration between city hall and chamber of commerce. no other questions we open tupe public comment. members that would like to comment on this item only? >> didn't exspect to speak at all. patricia [inaudible] a new group called-wealer we'll get to that later. our group

has tried everything to be on the mailing list of all the lists you did. sf local, all of it, the womens work, we sents e-mail jz everything and never contacted. even for this thing later in the month, never contacted. i have become quite irritate knd itment our group sent out the fliers for small businesses. no other business in the neighborhood did it and yet we are still treated as illegitimate children. i would thrike see this changed. thank you. >> thank you. any other members of the public like tacomment on this item? >> my name is sylva [inaudible]

which i didn't get no [inaudible] they was referring to a ordinance that [inaudible] it would be a lot easier with [inaudible] i do think we can

do it [inaudible] does not make no sense. [inaudible] to get where they understand and put more [inaudible] we are talking about gold here in san francisco. [inaudible] where we can't understand nothing. [inaudible]

>> thank you. any other members like to comment on this item? >> [inaudible] i think this is a great model to keep business in san francisco and keep the money in san francisco. we have done on 24th street we are part of invest in neighborhoods which [inaudible] sf biz, which has connected a lot of businesses to our services and it is working well, but it works well with small businesses because we have the butcher shops and fish markets and bakeries and restaurants

get the bread from the baker and fish from the fish market and things of that nature so it works well with so glad to hear there is a effort for there bigger businesses to connect with the smaller business. the other thing that came to mind is we need to keep in mind a lot of small businesses that can proind those service for the larger ones and vice versa is that a lot are being displaced because the rent is going up so high so need to keep that in mind if we want it to work we need to have protection for the smaller ones. >> any members like tocomment? seeing none u public comment is closed. action on this item? >> this is a no brainer. i would make a motion to support this 110 percent. >> second. >> excellent. roll call vote,

please. >> commissioner adams, yes. dooley, yes. dwight, yes. ortiz-cartagena, excused. tour-sarkissian, yes. yee, riley, yes. zouzounis, yes. motion is approved 6-0. >> thank you for coming out tonight to present. appreciate it. alright. now we will continue on with item number 4 -8. i will call the items together but we will hear them separately and call for public comment on each item separately. we are calling the items together so that we can go through them so there will be public comment between each presentation. item 4 first. >> item 4--the commissioner secretary needs to read all 4 of them together into the

record and then-- >> great. then we'll present in order. commissioner dwight did you want to provide a opening statement? >> yes, after it is read into record i'll explain what we are do; >> presentation and dpis cushion from san francisco municipal tans portation agency including a overview of agency sfmta projecktds and outreach and engagement program. item 5, presentation and disquugz regarding the san francisco municipal transportation agency 5 year capital imp pluvment program. item 6, presentation and discussion regarding the san francisco municipal transportation agency residential parking purnlt evaluation and reform project. item number 7, presentation and discussion regarding the san francisco municipal transpiration agency lombard

street improvement program. item number 8, presentation and discussion regarding the san francisco municipal transportation agency 14 mission street rapid project. these are agendized as discussion and action item, and >> we have asked the sfmta to partner with us to have a reoccurring meeting where we can talk about what goes on at the mta because what the initiatives of the mta relating to transportation, parking, infrastructure, modification, has a very significant effect on the residence of san francisco but on businesses and in particular small businesses. in the spirit of getting ahead of the projects that the mta has in the works or cont plate

frz the future, we want to have a official dialogue here in this forum where members the business community can come and hear about what the mta is doing and express their concerns or comments about those initiatives. tonight we will have 3 presentations which set the tone for how the mta does outreach and the overview of their 5 year plan as well as some work they are doing on residential parking permitting and reform. then there are two items which are very specific items one concerning lombard street and the other mission street. three overview items, two specific items. thality that is a big ask and don't intend it to be quite so intensive in the future but once we get through the initial phases hopefully it will become

a good routine where we discuss the items here. the mta does lots of out pch reach in the neighborhoods and businesses but this is the only official forum where a lot of this can happen so in the spirit of having iten the record and place where businesses and residents and citizens can engage on the record is the intention of this gathering. welcome and thank you all of you who are here for coming out tonight to start the process. let's start with item number 4. >> you want to introduce the presenters? >> the presenters is deanna desedas public outreach and engagement manager. and candace sue, communication director. >> director [inaudible] for the

sfmta. thank you for letting me know. i may be under the weather but will try to speak up. thank you for giving the time to share information about our outreach rkss capital improvement program and some of the projects you specifically expressed interest in. we do have a lot of opportunities and thank you commissioner dwight for acknowledging the outreach we do do and our opportunities to have hearings out our mta board hearings meetings as well as public hearings but this is a great opportunity to have this discussion and share this information with you directly and we appreciate the opportunities to partner. as the cities grown transportation manager we are responsible for operating muni, traffic and regulate taxi. we have more than 5 thousand employees

engaged in operating planning developmenting working to funds and implementing hundreds of projects that impact the current and long term needs of the cities tran portation system and do this with many partners including you all. partners at local regional state and [inaudible] with many city departments that we work with as well as community stakeholders. of course that includes merchants as well and each of the corridors and in each of the neighborhoods we work in. we work with the stakeholders to insure we are aware of the proposed dhainges and have the opportunity to provide input and understand sometimes the projects we are talking about can be controversial dependent on the perspective you have with regards to that project. and

often requires substantial discussion and we are prepared having the discussion to make sure we get to the best praumgect possible for the communities of san francisco. the resulting stakeholder input is youzed to develop recommendations that glow to the board for approval and legislation. under the leadership of ed riscon the agency has 4 goals, the first is safety. the second surround making transit walking biking and taxies the preferred means to get around, being fiscally responsible and providing outstanding service. we worked hard to come together as a agency to fost aapproach to community engagement that recognize the importance of

outreach and engagement to those impacted by the projects we work on. last year as you may know we developed agency wide standsards how outreach done at mta. we have worked for the past year to [inaudible] standsards across all our projects and we are making good progress but wree have a way to go and we are a fairly large agency with a lot of projects. however, as part oof this work we named deanna desedas head out outreach and following input from this community and commission and from director [inaudible] we also named deanna desedas to insure we work together in collaboration to keep you informed about our projects. and interest of the small business sector. we could spend a whole hour and probably

more so talking about the topic of outreach and engagement. how and why we do what we do. rather, want to have a spend majority of time talking about the projects and the people who are represented here today. before we do that i want to make sure deanna has a chance to update on her progress she made sins the last time she was here. >> thank you candice. good evening commissioners. i want to say last time i was here i gave you a thorough update on new public out reach and engageage efforts. some were here and some not. i am scheduled to come back and dedicate a good amount of time. we made a lot of progress. it probably warrants a longer and deeper presentation than we have to give this evening but

there are a couple things i want to braing up before i have the members och my team to update their projects. we have hundreds of projects and think as the new liaison for small commission and make sure we are here to give updates the focus is on those projects that have impacts to small business. those projects that are major corridors that impact our small businesses and those projects also that perhaps are city wide that impact our small business. i will work with regina to stream line the project jz prioritize and set up so we can come back and make sure we update you as early ozpossible about some of the projects because some of them have decisions to be made and like to be sher you are a part the process. the last time i was here i gave you the focus for

the public outreach and ingaijment strategy is two fold and one is just to help cast a wider net, a broader reach. it is a challenge for many organizations but for us we want to make sure we are reaching those stakeholder jz really deeply engaged with them and get input from folks maybe we don't typically reach. casting a wider naet and make sure we reach residents, merchants advocacy groups and folks that maybe don't feel comfortable coming to community meetings. in the past year one thing we gathered a lot of input and feedback. specifically from folks that told us the they are not too keen on a community meeting or open house format. they feel uncomfortable coming to these meetings. maybe are

intimidated but want to make sure they are heard. we have made a effort as a agency this past year to think outside the box and look for different techniques and approaches we can utilize to make sure they we reap those people we are trying to reach in a more comfort space. there a variety of techniques we tried. we also reached out to experts in the field and have done a lot of experimenting with those techniques. i welcome to opportunity to give a update on not just outreach and engagement strategy and guidelines candice mentioned but also give results and techniques we deployed and maybe have people to give feedback on that as well. without further ado, thank you for your time and will nrtd

introduce craig raphael and [inaudible] >> before we move to item 5, commissioners you have questions? >> thank you for this presentation. you talked about strategy and standards and candice mentioned last year you adopted these standards? >> yes, we did. >> are they in written form? could you just- >> they are in written form and they have been communicated agency wide p. one of the things -there are hundreds of projects and have hundreds of people that engage in the community so part the last year is helping people understand what those standards are, providing them resources and tools which we are about to laurch a recognition and training program because if we ask the staff to make sure they go out and conduct the outreach and engagement they need to they are provided the resources and

tools. we have them in written form. one thing projects have to have is communication plan and project needs assessment and that helps us better understand that area where the project is taking place. have we thought about all these people impacted and the approaches we will take? is there room for decision? is this a project that is basically all safety and we are going to implement it? a lot of infrastructure projects is mainly to inform people and have other projects like bike and pedestrian projects where we want to look at the space and work with everyone to get their input before we make a final decision so dependent on the project too there is a lot of factors that come fl to play. when i was here a year ago we asked for time to make sure we have time to deliver some of those things sth staff needs to understand the standsards and help them implement the standards. >> just follow up, you will talk to us next time about

these standards? >> and i'll fleed need a lot of your time. knowing we have new folks here i will structure the presentation to give a overview what we done and where we are heading. >> we can access these standsards? >> they are on our intranet. they are not accessible now to the public. but we can provide them to you of course. >> okay. any other question snz >> i just want to say thank you to candice and deanna. everybody in this room, this is something we have been asking for for a long long time so thank you. i feel like we just made a huge step forward. >> great. >> work in progress but good. >> heading in the right direction. >> i had one question. so, mta a huge agency and know there

are different parts that are more static and cannot be collaborative. i was part the efforts throughout the years to address some of the ads mta was accepting money for that was [inaudible] that was one example where we did have community forums but there was no agency on the end of the community to change something like that as that is like a piece of mta that was [inaudible] static and can't-we are bound [inaudible] i'm curious if there are other parts of mta you can tell us you are legally bound or can't work with the community on? it is a vague question. >> it isn't vague in the sense i think i understand what you roasking for. there are some projects where we don't have

the ability to ask. it is a safety issue so it is a project that has to be implemented and there is no decision space and no way to negotiate with the public but there are projects where we sit with the community and there is kpigz space and gather input and come to a final decision collaboratively. i think more often than not when weprint in fruchbt orphyou we have a participation spectrum which i can explain what that is next time i come and that will help you understand where we rin the process of a project. if st. is forum more than likely there is little wiggle room but then we get to consult and can work with folk squz that helps to frame where fr the staff where we are and the ability. i think it is projethby project basis. there are policies where we can't and that may

speak to what you are talking about with the advertising. i remember that. >> at this point i'll open ope up to public comment. any members that would like to comment on this item? >> patricia voy. this is exactly what we have been dealing with. we have a policy , we have people asked under public records act and nothing since august 10 from the department. this is happening all over the city. they are having meetings at 5:30 at night when people cannot get out of their stores and businesses because it is too early. in the case of lombard, supervisor farrell after the first meeting at saint mari

hunters which is a mall room asked for a different format and they agreed where they would make the presentation in front instead of posters aroun so you can talk separately. the next meeting came up, same program as the week before. the design before. this is not a lie. this is not a lie at all. in our case they combined lombard and did a separate program for chestnut, those 14 blocks and did it separately so it is hard to do cumulative studyies. what are we deal wg here? vision zero is in the papers and still trying to get money for it but it isn't working. transit first, for small business. transit first says you must consider small

business in the legislation. our businesses are going to be killed. state of good repair. we have a two fold, on lombard it should have been twen years ago and chestnut there are 14 blocks on surrounding streets that need the help. this is what we were told at the second meeting of and just decided to do it this way. this is not public input to us and one person at one meeting said we think about the buses and not the people. in the case of chestnut street, take away [inaudible] and scott and our seniors cannot get to the grocery store without walking 960 feet i believe. they

can't get to their banks without walking 4 or 500 feet. we are a family. this is some of the endemic problems we are having with the mta. thank you. >> next, please. >> good evening commissioners. my name is nancy [inaudible] i came today to read a letter to you that is [inaudible] by pops, the people of park side sunset. they address you and the letter is addressed to board of supervisors. the tearival merchants continue to have cerns regarding the tearival rapid project which includes the loss of muni stops, transit only lanes, installation orphboarding

islands resomeplaceing stop lines and traffic light and relocation of business service parking to adjacent residential streets. besides the changes proposed in the projecktd itself, the merchants continue to have serious issues regarding the outreach process mptd both the scope of the public outreach and number of general public meetings are minimal. also there isn't sufficient amount of time for people to fully understand the long range impacts. nancy [inaudible] voiced her concern of the tearival project at the may 3, board of supervisors meeting during public comment. our neighbor eileen [inaudible] voiced similar concerns at the small business. the tearival merchants traungly urge the board of supervisors to assist in addressing the unresolved

sfmta issues beginning holding a board hearing on muni forward matters. we believe these topics are of urgency to avoid the unpleasant spooernss encountered by the merchants along the mission street. a letter is provided to your screert and want to make sure you ruweir the outreach isn't subsessful at least in the tearival issue. commissioners i thank you for your questions and shocked to hear there is a plan that isn't available to the public. if they will start manipulating us i think we ought to know what the rules of the game are. this is not forcoming. there is agenda we think we have input. sometimes we just have to communicate what we are dogoing to do. that isn't a interactive process and we in the public see and feel this and you as

people in the business you know what i'm talking about. we are not happy. i'm a neighbor and don't want anything to happen to my commercial district. i live adjacent to tearival street and love it and don't want anything to happen and not interested muni sacrificing what i have with my merchants for what their proposed projecktds that they don't even tell us what the guidelines are. it is under the heading as safety but it isn't clear how they [inaudible] trumps my livelihood and their livery hood and my life. thank you. >> next speaker is eileen boken. >> i will be use thg overhead but not immediately. i'm eileen boken and supporting the tearival merchants. i believe

the issues on mission street are hands writing on the wall for tearival. when concerned were expressed to supervisor tang her response is the mta can do whatever it wants. really? is the mta a long to itself. let's put supersizer tangs to the test. fis dle year 1516, the mta budget is 1 billion 21 million 454 thousand. of that overall budget 272,000,000 is general fund money, taxpayer money, our money. as the board of supervisors has the power of the purse over general fund money lets put it to the test. there is a pending ordinance

seeking to appropriate 3.5 to general fund to mta. the file number is 160254. i would urge all the merchants and their associations to contact the board of supervisors budget and finance subcommittee, insist supervisor farrell, tang and yee keep the funds on reserve and don't release them because the mta in my opinion is out of control. thank you. >> thank you, next presenter, please. >> my name is bob [inaudible] i'm here for the greater gary merchants and property owners association. as wem as a group we put together when we looked at the geary brt plan. i want

to talk just to the outreach issue. i should tell you the proof is in the pudding. the goals mta has have not been met in our case. in october of last year the cta and mta put out a eir that was over 700 pages long with a disk that contained another 8,000 pages and referenced 4 different alternatives for building a bart system. these were first shown to everybody in that forum in october. they had a meeting on november 5 at saint mary pfs and it was public comment. did they take public comment? no because nobody was allowed to make a question or comment. their idea of outreach to small business is very strange. the problem i

think they have is they think if in the process of trying to think through alternatives to what they build, they brought a whole different sets of plans and ideas to people in the neighborhood that that would be sufficient even though they were not reaching out to what was the final product they thought was best. so, we have found very few, very few merchants along that area from masonic west to the end of the system which is point [inaudible] we have found very few merchants who know anything the plan and the plan is very disruptive because their plan is put in a red line very much like the mission that will keep businesses from their customers. one answer they have is they don't think most of the customers drive. i think very few businesses feel the same way. they know they

get a certain amount of customers from driving and think something that is not understood by the mta and cpa is the question whether you stay in business is a question of your profit margin and if we took their numbers and they were right that only 30 percent of people drive rfx think what it means for your business if a goo proportion of that 30 percent does want come to do business with you. that mean your profit margin is hurt. we have gotten nothing. after 25 hours from january through last month talking to the staff of cta and mta we received nothing and the fact is they haven't done that type of work. it takes a lot of hypothesis what if we do this or that to try to

have a worthwhile discussion. none of that occurred. we are doing our oun survey and petition about this and i urge you to read the richmond review piece by david heller who runs the greater geary merchants association and see what has gone on there in the geary development. when the time comes when the transportation authority needs to come to you to get your reaction i hope you will give us a chance to deal with this point by point in great detail because the damage done from masonic west is terrible. oddly, transit first speaks to quality of life and two, economic health. those two go together. if our richmond district doesn't have

a strong business structure to it, the quality of lifer is really geing to be damaged. we hope you can come back when you look at the specific project and our ask to pass on it. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> next speaker is [inaudible] stein. >> hi there. eden stein and own [inaudible] art and design in mission bernal and president of merchants association. my grand parent owned a store front for 40 years in philadelphia and their legacy business urged me to open [inaudible] art and design in 2007. mission street is home to my gallery and boutique for 9 years supporting 60 local independent artist and

designers. businesses care about longevity and culture and want the chance to be a legacy business and live our dreams small business can thrive in san francisco. this is why i became president of mission bernal association from my neighborhood will have a passionate point person who lives and works in mission bernal. the businesses along mission need your support. two muchckt ago mta reinstructed our street by introducing red transit lanes and forced rathe turns. the buses running two minutes faster but i observed decrease in pedestrian traffic and clientele especially for day time business. my business not only a go too r dolocals for destination for people all over. the forced right hand turn funnel people away marking

it hard for our customers to show up and support us. my specific concerns for mission bernal are make sure it is safe for pedestrian, residents and valued customers. request is made to mta to put in left hand turn signals- >> you can-i'm dealing with mission 14 in terms of public comment. >> you called me up. >> apologize for that. so, -there is a opportunity to provide public comment for mission 14 a little later on. >> happy to do that later too. >> you can continue your time with outreach. >> my apology. >> do you want me to come back? >> my name is terri norton the

corner of fillmore and lombard and i made these notes days ago and my number 1 complaint on behalf of small business on lombard and lack of outreach and come tonight to brag about their outreach. the fact is that not one property owner was notified of these plans. a handful of business were that were directly effect bide bus stops put in front of the business. they weremostly hotels but nouchb other small businesses on lombard were ever contacted or told on behalf of the mta this is happening. we told as many as we could reach. i would say i guess 90 percent of the property owners don't know about these changes. now, the thing is that we met with mta about 4 times and every

single time we said, the small businesses have not been notified. the property owners are not notified. those meetings started 6 months ago and had 6 month tooz send those notifications out and they never did. there is no e-mail, there is no letter in the mail. the person down the street wants to add a clause and get a letter from planning commission saying 400 feet from you you need to let us know if you are okay. they are making huge changes that will effect the business squz nothing is ent to any of us. i think you need toknow that. you have to take what the mta says not at face value. that is my warning for you guys. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i'm mary

aliza and speaking as a concerned citizen. i will not repeat what i said before totally because you already heard it. i already mentioned the fact that this is the cipe of notice we get when something already happened to let us know it happened. we get these big signs on the street saying this bus stop isn't here anymore. then they don't do anything ahead of time to tell which bus stops may be going away and allow people the opportunity whether they feel comfortable having the bus stop remuchbed. i came up with my own plan which is in english, spanish and chinese to put on the bus stops that may be removed. we don't know which for sure will be on van ness because sthra

tendency of mta staff to change their minds and not tell anybody. one thing we noticed after going to a lot of meetings with mta staff is they can't do anything. we are told we can't do anything wut can talk to you about it. there is that type of problem as well. i notice here there is mention of posted open house notices at the bus stop, so somebody went to the trouble to post notices about a open house meeting but didn't manage to mention the fact by the way we taking your bus stop out as a part the process so there is something lacking in that information. one other thing and that is in terms of public information process, i said this before and said this to probably this commission, said it to the mta board and also probably said it

to the board of supervisors and that is there is a possibilities to have a really easy to use website that the public can go to and get information about the process in deal wg the city agencies or departments. so far the planning commission has been able to figure how to do it in a way you can get a lot of detailed information. i know your dp apartment is also looking at doing this. the mta is so far behind the 8 ball curve on the website and public information and how to get a hold of it that it is a huge big problem we are bringing to their attention for a while and understand they heard my comment and hopefully will move forward. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> rick hall and wasn't going

to speak. i spoke last time as a small business customer- >> can you hold for one moment please while i reset this. sorry about that. go ahead. >> i spoke last time as a small business customer. i said because of what they have done on mission i refuse to go to ma or that end of mission anymore. i am one of those drivers that they don't care about being your customer. there are vast parts the city i'm getting isolated from and don't go to anymore and so i am a disgruntled customer. the reason i came up is talking about pr is i-or talking about outreach. i have gone to a lot of their prior outreach meetings through potrero or

embarcadero and happy that they have a new plan because the old plan didn't work at all. i'm hope thg new plan, the new hidden plan isn't just bait and switch because what comes to mind where most all the outreach that i see from sfmta is pr, propaganda, sales of their singular agenda and what we want is working with the community, community engagetiment, real alt turnatives not just rubber stamping the same thing they do and real socio economic and traffic studies. in some the handouts i picked up there isn't anything there about streets. they don't have any concept to share where thacars

will go when they do this. where they want it to go is vanish and what we [inaudible] 1/3 of bay wrairia residents are thinking of leaving within 3 years because of two things, one is the housing cost or costs and the second is traffic. their answer to traffic is make the cars go away. i'm probably one of those 1/3 that will move and they will be happy because i'll take my car with me, but i'll be a customer that leaves leaves too. i can afford to live here and don't have housing issue. they are make the city miserable to get around in and live in especially for seniors, disabled, people that have to move arounds with cars and

trucks for their businesses. that is the singular agenda, make the cars go away. it is wrong. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> my name is shirly johnson. i think the main problem is you know not being able to see. [inaudible] sacramento on this and i have to take a train [inaudible] it takes

coordination and see what you are looking at. right now still in the process of trying to get [inaudible] paid a lot of money for this to be able to see and [inaudible] some other organization that will make sure that i can see. i'm waiting for that. it should am pretty soon and will have housing--[inaudible] at least

they had the ability to see why [inaudible] >> are we talking about outreach? >> i'm talking about outreach our society and the community outreach on a lot of these- >> we are discussing outreach for sfmta now. >> i'm talking about transportation. [inaudible] so we can do a process how we have more people come [inaudible]

and we gain a lot of businesses and [inaudible] and also, [inaudible] the computers here in the library does not work for me because it has been touch [inaudible] >> thank you. next speakers please. >> [inaudible] district merchants association. i think the [inaudible] paper the other

day commissioner dwight spoke about, there is no doubt the younger generation don't drive. on the other hand do we want to create the red zones just for buses only to make the buses run faster and save 3 minutes? if anything making anything go faster it causes to be more prone to causing a accident and someone getting hurt. [inaudible] as what we do need is we need more frequency in buses so therefore you can take more people from one place to another [inaudible] rather than just one bus and waiting for 30 minutes for the next bus. we got the synchronized rides that

way it [inaudible] go through that. i feel what the impact of having the red zones is a negative impact on small business. taking the [inaudible] there are people that still drive. i just feel somehow that from what i'm getting from the small business is they don't care for what mta is doing at the moment and need to sit back and take a deep breath and how to move forward with this. >> any other members who like to comment on this item? >> my name is eric [inaudible] i think one thing i have been hearing from a lot of folks is it is the style of meeting they have where it is isn't a presentation, it is like a open house so you look at pictures and i think a lot of people

feel left out and unengaged so think that is a piece we need to look at. >> thank you. any members of public who would like to comment? seeing nonepublic comment is closed and move to item 5. >>itep 5 are craig raphael and sophia forde. >> good evening commissioners. caig craig raphael from sfmta it is our plezer to present the 5 year capital improvement program. we were here during the last budget cycle so happy to be back. we will give a high level overview of capital investment the mx ta plan tooz

make to inform potential impact for small business and identify potential opportunities for collaboration and the second reason we are presenting is to continue the dialogue between the mta, business commission and community and the members of the public at large. what is capital improvement program? cip is a 5 year program of projects. what that means is mta has a 20 year capital plan which is all investments we need to make to transportation system to keep it running and safe and reliable. as we two years we update our 5 year plan and map out all the revenue that we think we have a good chance of getting the two year brujt cycle and map those to spinge projects and that lows

us to create a plan to take the agencies priorities and cities priorities for transportation and projects we can build and putd into thgrund. we do this over 2 years thmpt mat board approved our two year capital budget a afooyears ago and in july we plan to take our 5 year plan to the sfmta board for approval and there will be a lot of helpful information available to you at that time and i'll talk more about that later. we have a few guiding principles for our cip. the first is be consistent with existing goals of the agency. the first is vision zero is the cities policy goal of eliminating all traffic fatalities by 204. transit first is a city wide policy that smeeks to creating public

transportation via transit and walking and biking. finally, state of good repair refers to making investments in the our system that help keep it running and safe and reliable for the public. as candice mentioned safety is our number 1 criteerria. we also want to the invest in projects with strong community support. my apology for the slide, this provides just a brief overview of the revenue we have in the capital improvement program. the current budget son the left is our fiscal year 2017-2019 and proposed is what we are currently looking for board approval in july 2017-2021. the total revenue amount stayed about the same but we have you

can see on the top, the central subway project as it nears completion we have less revenue we need to be able to finish it so the proportions in the other categories have gone up. the big proportion on the butm is state of good repair category that includes fleet replacement. by the omed thf period we will have all new buses rolled out. some other categories to highlight, here the way we do our capital brujt transit optimaization and expansion are the muni forward projects, initiative to make muni more allowable. safest streets are capital projeths to make it safer for people walking and biking arounds the

city. this slide provides a overview oof projects in the 5 year plan. the first category are all the state of good repair projects i was referring to. [inaudible] that is continued roll out of muni forward projects. we also have some target investments we are looking to make in our rail network to try to alleviate bottlenecks we have and speed up the rail service and continuing to introduce new buses and light-rail vehicles which will enter service in the next year to two years creating a more reliable and better experience for the public on our transit vehicles. internal initiatives we like to highlight that will make us

more efficient that continues continued support for asset management system, for the taxi program we are looking at continuing incentive programs for green taxi technologies that includes providing rebates for taxis powered by alternative fuel sources. looking at trying to minimize potential threats to our transit system through the security program and complete streets. those are the vision zero projects make tg safer for people walking and biking. there are a couple tools i like to highlight for this commission as we finalize our capital improvement program and that document become available to the public later this year, we will have features that i think will be useful. the first is a map of all the projects that the mta plans to implement over the cip period and that will help give you a

sense of potential impacts on specific corridors. we will have scope description frz all the projects we are proposing trying to provide a lot of information to you to increase dialogue to make better decision moving forward. again, we will also have specific schedules for projects so you will understand when projects are planned, divined and implemented sethese are samples now but we'll provide you a final sthrourfgz cip when it is finalized. the planned date is july. we met with a lot of stakeholder groups to get us to this point and also had opportunities through webinars and a couple of in person town hall meetings for

the public to give comment and there will be further opportunity for input and comment as we bring the cip [inaudible] back to the board in july. those are the materials i presented to you today. happy to take any questions or comments. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner zouzounis. >> thank you for your presentation. i have a question particularly around the taxis and i know that in conversations with mta in the past around congestion we brought up the ride sharing technologies are contributing to congestion and know that isn't in your control so is this a attempt to offset the congestion? a apperates you can actually regulate more

since our taxi industry unfortunately has been suffering for a really long time and curious if there is a point person for that in particular that can maybe update more specifically on what you have planned to revitalize the taxi industry as a way to offset the congestion from private companies we can't regulate in terms of traffic. also around questions-sense taxies and limo drivers are small business owners in a lot of ways and i know that i had folks come to me about tickets they get and so maybe in the future we can talk about a more specific presentation around how you are doing with that industry and what violations people need to look out for that they may have no idea. >> to answer your question, the

project highlighted is specifically for the rebate program for alternative fuels but i looking closely at congestion caused by tnc and happy to follow up with that. [inaudible] >> thanks. >> commissioner dooley. >> you include a draft capital project map and it seems as though there is a lot of on here. where can we get a list of all these projects? it looks like there is many many many on this list. i mean on the map. i don't know that i see the-where-what are all the capital projects? is is that something the business corridors and people need to know what these plans are? >> our current plan is to bring

our full cip to the mta board in july at which point the full list of projects included on the map is available. i will also direct you to the mta two year capital budget which included projects in the next two fiscal year, so 17 and 18 that should have a-i believe it has a listing of projects, but would say that will be later in the year in july. >> commissioners any other questions? okay. thank you for your presentation. we'll call for public comment. does any member of the public who want to comment specifically on this item which is cip understanding there other items to come? >> patricia voy again. i was very interested everything he said is this is god for pudustren safety and for

bicycles but there was no mention of vehicles. that disturbed me a little bit. number 2, they are going to the board with a list of these and think this list should come to you before it goes to the board. why are you being eliminated in the process? number 3, once again it is just a overview, there is no real detail presented to you unless you have it in your packet because i don't see it. i think this is sufficient what is presented to you today. i believe more should have been put on the record but i advice you to ask them to have those projects come to you before they make a vote so you can put your input in. this is what we

are seeing consistently. the other thing that we are seeing is the fact that we found out that one of our projects goes back to 2010. we didn't hear until 2015. this goes into capital improvements, outreach, special situations. tourism, cars whether you want them or not and i just think it should have been a more thorough presentation. i'm glad we have [inaudible] it was our group that literally demanded from now on this commission should be acknowledged and i am disappointed in what is presented. thank you.

>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i will be use thg overhead. eileen boken. the overhead is first page of capital improvement project for tear vel. the project discrepgz is expanded changes travel time project. the projecktd repeats the travel time reduction twiceism no where does it mention pedestrian safety. on page 2, shows the date from 2014 . page 2 also indicates 35 percent contingency in 3

different phases . here is detail of cost, it is small but there it is. now, here is the community survey from 2014. only 10 percent mentioned safety as a issue. i lived in tar val since the 70's thrrks are very few changes during that time. 2014 to 2016, suddenly out of neighbor and no where tar vel is a high injury network street. now the tar vale merchants are bum barded. at a city a mta employee in official capacity

recounted to everyone at the meeting the gruesome story of a emplyee struck not on tearival but in front of city hall. mta to state after decades of operation tar val must have certain safety improvements is countser intuitive. this pedestrian safety analysis leaves mta's credibility in question. again, i think mta is out of control. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> [inaudible] park side community. whp i come to a meeting like this and i see that the agenda item discusses a 5 year capital improvement plan i expect to see number and expect to see details and

commissioner dooley, i agree i don't spect to see a bunch of dots. they will vote at the mta to approve those projects after all the dirt awork is done it will come back to you as a finality quia won't be able to change it. this is the meeting and came to find out what they will do at the next meetjug it isn't on the website and dobet know what the millions of dots are either. the other speaker addressed the fact we want a list of projects. this is how the mta addresses the public, like we are idiots. [inaudible] the capital planning commitsy wasn't addressed in the information you got where it was announced that the mta will put out to bid for $190 million

in new tax exempt bonds for 30 years so they can get money to complete streets. that is fine but when we talk about the future why not talk about the money and the fact there is bon request at noon today? i assume it got passed. that is something the bod aneeds to know. there is funding and think every in this panel understand the dollar bill and also understand the dollar bill and government money so not pleased to have this white washed and the way you rill streeted and not respected for people that understand how to manage a business, profit loss and statements. you are not treated with respect and neither and am i because i [inaudible] by the time i find

what later is it is too late. i'm saying thank you ladies and gentlemen for having this on your agenda. i'm not happy with the response you are getting from the san francisco mta. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> [inaudible] walking areas, i

think our sidewalks need [inaudible] walking distance are really long and it takes a lot out of us walking. [inaudible] i know that some of

the streets in our [inaudible] a little more convenient because [inaudible] >> thank you. alright. thank you very much for your presentation. no further questions i am dpoe going to to ask the people to indulge a 5 minute break. we are captive up here and you can come and go as you please so we will take a 5 minute break.

>> alright. so, we are on to item number 6. we'll call the presenter. >> item 6, the presenter is kathryn studwell, rpp residential parking permit and evaluation reform project. >> yes. playing the roll of kathryn studwell is [inaudible]

>> andy [inaudible] from san francisco municipal transportation the parking group. you have a lot more to talk about tonight stow want to check in quickly. we will be back to give you a full report next month. i think your june 13 meeting you will have full report on resident parking project. this is a project underway to evaluate and look for potential reform to nearly 40 year old program. the parking program dates back to mid-70's. many may live in a opp area and enjoy a benefit of the sticker that gives you a leg over. it was conceived in the 70's to protect residential parking against inroachment. the first was north beach and still there. as the financial

district was booming they wanted to make people were not parking in neighborhoods and walking down down. now covers 26 percent of the curb and looking at over 40 years have we learned a better way to do it? we know there are better ways to do it so looking at how we practice and customer certification and enforcement. we are well into eviluation and collected lots of data and will share that in june but doing a thorough and multipronged outreach. my colleagues are not with me because they rin the richmond talking to neighborhoods. tomorrow we will be in the sunset so see us at the lutheran church tomorrow evening. we have done telephone survey work over 2500

responses and have a rich website we are sharing information and havey mail list. much of the stuff my colleagues have told you about for outreach. we mindful of small business as we look at permit parks because we know there are business caught in a rpp area. we appreciate you need accommodation. we look at what more we might do to accommodate businesses caught in a rpp-air area and trying to balance the finite amount of curb we have. we are trying to find the most equitable productive policy coherent wa to balance all the ing thes pushing on that curb and again we'll with back to you with full conversation what we

learned and how we are talking about it and solicit your input and comments how this system that is all most 40 years do a better job of supporting small business. i won't take up more time and happy to have comments or questions but look forward coming back next month >> this is quick. when you come next month you said small businesses and in the neighborhoods we have people moving their cars every two hours so if you can help with that because that is super key. i love the program, in the neighborhood the back of my house is where [inaudible] so one side you can find parking if you live in the neighborhood. the commuters park and walk to castro station so knethat all too well.

moving the cars every 2 hours i know everyone here has a biz and it is a bitch having to move every 2 hours so. >> commissions any other comments or questions for andy? thank you. open tupe public comment. members that would like to comment on this item? >> if you can wait for one moment while i get the timer set up. thank you, go ahead. >> hi. patricia voy again. one that that isn't considered in all of this is due to the fact that the dot comers came and chasing out our workforce lt they have to commute from [inaudible] tracy, lower lake

and many other places. many of them are getting smart and a group of them are family they come in one car with 6 workers. but this is a endemic problem particularply for small businesses, our prep cook, our janitor, our retail personnel and i think that this has not been addressed at all by the mta. also in the case of lombard chestnut you have the tourist that come into our motels recollect ab wn comes in with a car and 90 percent do and they usually park and do a lot of mass transit. i must admit that. but you have to also admit the fact that there

are endemic problems that are not being addressed in the overall plan for the city. one other issue i want to bring up orn the parking and ppi is the fact is one thing that is fun about living in san francisco is i would like to go out to sunset and eat at [inaudible] or like to go out to bayview and get of paulines great pralines and i think this is some of the counts that they are not taking. this is the people who live here. the way we have a way of life of getting our goods and services squz this is how our small businesses survive. when i had my store open which i hope to

reopen, the sunset district loves the [inaudible] that is something we have to consider is cross city traffic. thank you. >> any other members like to comment on this item? >> good afternoon. [inaudible] here again. i am just going toread something that i wrote. i will preface this by saying i got involved deal wg mta because the eastern neighborhoods were trying to preserve parking for the pdr's in the business and we have been trying for i know how many years to get a plan that protect the pdr parking in the nairbld. residential parkt permits in the eastern neighborhood. [inaudible] due

for the mission and [inaudible] mission potrero and dogpatch. we asked for business permits for pdr but tod this is impossible. now we understand the sfmta is considering [inaudible] we also hear a plan to raise the parking fee for residential parking permit and lower temporary fees, what is drivering this change? is this part a a push to apply pressure on rez sidence to give up their cars? [inaudible] plan to make more room for the businesses and customers as the expense the residents? is this a divide and conquer scheme? it looks as a plan to roll out [inaudible] by oversellic the parkt permits. why do we see one permit system in one neighborhood and another system

in another neighborhood? we are not the guinea pigs for the test to see how we perform under different rules. we are human beings and had enough of the test squz ready to take bake our streets sfr our use and make them livable for our lifestyles. >> thank you. any other members who like to comment on this item specifically? >> they say there is no places you can [inaudible] contracting

and construction and mapping [inaudible] i think we can make

this a whole lot more [inaudible] >> are your comments regarding the parking? >> this is parking i'm talking

about. this is what i'm saying, the parking areas that they have here is not- not-[inaudible] if we had better parking districts, maybe [inaudible] >> thank you. we will move to the next item here. item number 7. >> item number 7, the presenter is mari hunter, lombard street improvement project. >> good evening commissioners mari hunter speaking on lombard street safety project. so, to

begin lombard street is a high injury corridor mentioned a few times. this project vision zero has a policy to eliminate traffic fatalities by 2024 so to support the vision zero policy it approached ipa variety of ways, education, enforcement and engineering. lombard street is one corridor and richer son will reserve education enforcement to support safety later this year. this is a engineering project to improve safety along the corridor and the project is from basically flanklen to doyle drive. this is a high injury corridor, a number of

collisions. data between 2008 and 2013 two were fatalities 18 of which were severe injuries. the collision rate for pedestrian and vehicleicize higher than the city wide rate. we have a number of transit collisions along the stretch. this project aim tooz make it safer. in doing so we identified a number of 5 or 6 tools from our tool box to make it safer with respect to outreach we took the tools, developed reliminary plans and went to the publicment . we had 3 community meetings, two were open house forum, one was a presentation. we had several smaller stakeholder meetings with a group of community members that were engaged. we had a couple public hearings

and two walking tours. we had a number other means of communication throughout the process during and after and a few things i want to highlight specific to small businesses is that safety for small business or residential for a big business was a top priority for everyone. you can't get to a small business unless you get their saferly so whether you walk, bike, drive, taking transit we want to make sure everyone does that safely. a few other key considerations specific to small business, we are especially curb designation whether it is a white zone, yellow or green, blue zones are also considered. parking retention. this is a item brought forth by business and residential to retain as much parking possible. shementer

locations, with introduction of transit shelters how do we make sure they are located for the betterment the community and businesses? i want to highlight a few things here at the end it says field work outreach, this is done in advance of designs we prepared. the project engineer to do site analysis mptd this gets into special curb designation. if a [inaudible] is recommended that would have require relocation of something he was reaching out to businesses regardless of curb designation but specifically to understand how it is used and where it could be relocated for them. and then lastly, i want to

clarify this is short hand, m tab, this is mt board. post approval occurred in march 15 i have been reaching out to businesses along the corridor to notify them. it is on our website but to let them know it suproved and the schedule moving forward. so, i'll go through these next slides quickly in the entrust of time. we identified a handfull of tools. these are [inaudible] improve visibility for motor est and peds. these are daylight [inaudible] red curb at the approach of a intersection restricting parking to improve visibility.

the [inaudible] provide pedestrians a head start when they cross lombard street. the last two are sidewalk extensions where we make the side walk wider. the first being pedestrian bulb out and these are immediately at the intersection and improve visibility and go a step further to reduce the crossing distance across the street. they also slow turning vehicles. finally, we proposed transit bulbs. there are transit lines along lombard, muni lines, golden gate transit and a number of stops. the project relocated near side transit stops so stops in front of a traffic signal to had far sigh the intersection and again extended the sidewalk out so it is a far side transit bulb. a

number of safety benefits. it also has transit reliability benefits. we can make it safer for people to take transit leaving or coming to and from the area we want to encourage. finally, far side transit bulbs retain the most amount of parking. the existing condition of near side transit zones if we keep them where they are but update them it takes much more parking so this gets to parking retention. in our communication with community the small stakeholder group i mentioned, the transit bulbs were one of the

stickuritems so want to make sure we identify the benefits and there are trade offs. these are the benefits and want to acticulate those. parking was in front of one business or residential unit and now in front of someone elses business or residents. design through driveways, these are all things we considered and the trade off and made sure we maximize the benefit to fullest extent. rather than go intersection by intersection this is summary, signal paint work and safety improvements at everything intersection and transit bulbs and pedestrian bulbs. i'll touch on this. we did do a

full environmental review process for ceqa so utilizing the transit effectiveness project eir and planning department who is lead agency for environmental did find there were no significant impacts identified. lastly just moving forward this summer we'll do the signal and paint and next sumser larger construction project followed by cal trans repaving. happy to answer any questions. >> commissioner dooley. i just have a general question. i'm curious in these projects why the pedestrian scramble is rarely propose. i worked downtown a lot and see how extremely effective they are without changing anything, but when it is brought up it is just

dismissed. i wondered what is the mta policy on that? >> that is great question. we finished our leading pedestrian intervul policy. the next step is visit a scramble policy. it becomes trickier when you consider pedestrian scramble because of competing demands. you could have people walking diagonal and there is minimum requirements for pudustren crossing distance time so you have 3 and a half feet per second, ideally you can go 2.8 or sometimes 2.5 and that requires a lot of time. if you picture richardson, those ocwould angled intersections as it crosses francisco, but it

requires like minutes in which case you major delays and have congestion backup for vehicle jz transit. considering the safety, potential safety benefits as well as all the other delays. >> my question is regarding the outreach. usually in these programs and this particular of small business we see it is outreach but it is vague, do you collect the data of the businesses that attended the meetings and their suggestions or concerns? what is the amount of both you implemented and took into consideration? you keep those minutes and data? >> i can double chuck. some people choose not to sign in so i can look into that. i can

provide my spreadsheet where i collect all our outreach to businesses and happy to provide that. with respect to [inaudible] a lot came down to curb designation, people saying i use the yellow zone, relocate it or i don't. one member i want to say it was [inaudible] they said they get their [inaudible] so don't need to relocate the yellow zone or shelter location. >> just think when you come to the board and there is also general out rage the project isn't supported especially in our purview we can say confidently these are the business squz look at the minutes on each conversation you had and loork that implementation or not because some things may not make sense. it just to quantify just to

see the raw data just helps us to know you are really taking the small business into consideration in these plans. >> commissioners any other questions? thank you very much for your presentation. call for public comment on this item. any member of the public that would like it comment on this item specifically? >> [inaudible] 30 year small business owner and that is where my heart is even though we are the property owners now from the family since 1914 my grands father bought the building. i just wanted to point out because i heard a presentation mow about 3 times that some of it is factual and some of the ideas are really good and rill provide safety but some is more mythical i

like tosay. the other point i want to make before i go to give you a example is that we brought 650 signatures to your board and also to the mta. every signature was signed in a small business on lombard either the owner or employee or resident that lived near by, a customer or patient. 650 signatures. we didn't go around the city, it was lombard corridor. to date the mta hasn't acknowledged those signatures so i'm here, one person but thereat is who i'm representing. the example i wanted to give you was when we brought the loss of parking of small business argument to try to get the plans somewhat changed, we brought that to the board on the day that they voted and we pointed out they would lose 46 parking place jz

that represented 30 percent the available parking and after we spoke mari hunter said there were a thousand parking spaces on lombard street and the 46 spaces represented 4 percent the parking. i and my husband walked lombard street and counted every parking space. there are 217 parking spaces on lombard. 75 have parking meters and some are only 15 minute parking meters. there are 141 parking places with no meters, some pr green zones thereat are also only 10 or 15 minutes and one handicapped parking place. this represents a percentage loss of 21 percent of parking and as a small business owner i wouldn't have made it without parking. i had a business where people had to carry things in and out. we

have the toy [inaudible] and have stroller jz toddlers and have a veterinary bringing the dogs and animals. people need to have parking in order for these businesses to survive. you all know so know i'm preach toog the choir but maybe these people back here don't realize that, it is totally impactful and couldn't talk them to inchanging that so maybe you will have better luck. thank you very much for meetling with them and allow s to us voice our opinions. >> next speaker, please. >> [inaudible] urban hospital which is new. it is old but new pet hospital two blocks down from dr. coon who is in her area. dr. lang the previous dr. had a stroke about

5 months ago. the nice young dr.s and-nurses have taken it over for the vets. they were never told sthra bus stop in front the shop and losing the white zone. the sick dogs in the middle of lombard with 3 narrow lanes can go out of business. scott street, scott and lombard, plan didn't show anything but they are taking away 11 places for google buses to have a hub. in the morn g ing as far as i'm concerned it doesn't look that bad and have to ask the people on the south but on the north there are 3 restaurants losing their parking. i believe there is a bulb out on one of the corners too and they are losing it. we

are short a minimum of 1300 parking places. our restaurant are telling us every single day they hear this line. we don't come to your restaurant because we can't find parking. this is very very very important. i shalf present you with a complete study that i actually have finished i just wanted somebody to correct my grammar and think you should understand what really is happening in our neighborhood as well as the rest of the city. the correct studies are just not being done. we will do this our else -what also disturbs me is some agrouments are made and hear at the hearing we will have dedicated lane down there.

[inaudible] i heard it two days before from the leader oof the department. so, what is happening with all these cases is they are piece mealing you which is the worst thing that can happen. i suggest you look at laurel heights versus ucsf and that is primary case concerning piece mealing projects and won't go into detail [inaudible] >> thank you. >> thank you for your vote last time. >> next speaker please. >> eileen boken resident of sun set park. as a resident of near tar vel i'm here in solidarity with [inaudible] in the lombard project. they are

not the only ones doing a petition, the tar vel the residents gacktered a thousand signatures. the merchant has separate petition with hundreds of signatures. i want to know these projects not just tar vel or lombard have similar feature tooz those on mission street which have created so many negative impacts. should we mta be allowed to implement the same plan used on mission street and spread them like a cancer throughout the city? again, the board of supervisors and we as taxpayers have the power the purse. 25 percent the mta budgeset taxpayer money, our money and think there is a time where we have to say no. we have had a community meeting where someone appeared to [inaudible] in my

professional opinion. i'm sorry [inaudible] people that live in the neighborhood for decades and know the needs the business and residents. we have seniors and people with limited mobility and that is complaet lediscounted. there is a cookie cutter master approach impt lmented everywhere even though in the mission it has prove toon have significant negative impracts. that has not stopped them. instead of taking stalk where and now why not figure out what you need to fix in the #34igz. they are going full steam in areas like the tar vel and think it is a [inaudible] you would do that. if you your plans are not working stop and assess them don't just raem them down peoples throats.

thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> nancy [inaudible] i will bring good news to you. you have been yelled at all day so appreciate a smile. i'm a person who reads the city charter. i want to bring information to you that is directly referring the lombard street issue and to the mission street issue and i'm coming at this on this particular point because it said in the transit bulb review there were lots of concerns about unable to park and loss of parking attributed to transit improvements. i want to specifically say what these neighbors can do and this body can do in support of the neighbors who are having these problems. what is going on in the charter, sckz section 80102

kwibes what the mta can and should do and we as voters allow this in the charter. sfmta have excluse v authority to adopt regulations that control the flew and direction of motor vehicles bikes and pedestrian traffic. section 8 adopting regulation limited parking standing or loading provided by state law. that is the bad news. the newgood news i came to tell you about is they are not a law that has no one to whom we can appeal and those provisions have a [inaudible] talk about not withstanding authority i just told you about, the board of supervisors made a ordinance establishes procedures the public may seek the board review of any agency decision with regards to the the

installation of ear removal of a stop sign or creation or elimination of bike lane and the section 8 expands that to include they adopt a review of procedures that have to do with the parking and stopping or standing of loading zones. because of the fact that the boardf supervisors can have a agency review and they can make a decision with regard to the creation of elimination of any preferential parking zone or meter zone adoption of limitation to conttrary [inaudible] reservation of parking space for persons with disability that qualifys for parking in the state. the review oof the agency shall stand unless the board of supervisor reversing that the agency [inaudible] to board of

supervisors. everyone in the room is a citizen and each one of us can submit something to the berd of supervisor jz say we want you to reverse that. that is the good news. we don't have to take it from them. >> next speaker, please. >> [inaudible] easier for our

children and people that are doing [inaudible] make sure people are safe. i would like to [inaudible] update districts to where it be a lot [inaudible]

maybe you can't understand my because of the [inaudible] but want to see if i can get it to where it would be a lot more [inaudible] getting more

consideration in our areas [inaudible] >> thank you. >> the presenter for item number 8 is sean kennedy of the 14 mission street rapid project.

>> good eveage mpt my name is matt brill. sean kennedy is here. thank you for your time i'll go quickly through the presentation in the interest of time. if there are specific questions on the slides i go through happy to go back to those. want to discuss why changes were proposed to mission. what the project benefits are expected and outreach we connected focused on small businesses and also how we are responding to feedback post implementation. i think the key thing in this slide is herd from the riders on mission street there are 3 lines that primarily serve that street and were very slow and

unreliable and bus stops were frequently which didn't have a reliable commute. mission street is one of our workhorse lines about 70,000 riders a day for transportation to all variety of commercial activities, art and cultural activities, getting to doctor and work. we see a lot of the travel in the mission. it isn't just used in the morning and evening, and take the bus in the middle of the day and it is packed with people. there are people that drive to mission street are fewer for numbers. for this group

tonight it is important to take into needs oof murchgents deliverly vehicles to get goods to these stores to conduct daily activities. in terms of the street from a transportation perspective it wasn't working with anyone in the prior configuration and we see that for data we have on the street. in particular it is the highest corridor for muni related collisions in 16th and mission was the worst intersection about 20 percent the collisions happened at that location. that is primarily due to the narrow lane on mission. if you walk across the street on mission and look north or south you see the bus traveling down the middle of the two lanes and that is because they are 9 feet wide and the buses are 10 and a half

feet so they couldn't fit. most of the collisions were side swipes so vehicles hitting other vehicles on the side. the other thing a number of preners mentioned is this is a corridor with a higher proportion with collision with people walking. it is one of the more dangerous places to walk and this was intended to connect those things in addition to other things the agency is doing for education and enforcement. this slide is depicting some the expected project benefits we see from some changes already implemented which is more the lighter capital work. we have concrete work at targeted locations planned for later this year that will help realize the benefits. with safety and that is for everyone

given the number of vehicle related collisions in addition to pedestrian safety collisions. muni liability is a primary goal given the number of people that are using the streets on the bus. 67,000 people a day didn't have a reliable commute before and the project in10ed to make that consistent and reduce the time it take tooz travel within thcorridor and benefits are achieved someone traveling through the corridor. regarding parking, one of the goals of the project is make sure the mobility for everyone in the corridor is improved and we heard clearly from a number of groups that we spoke to individually and from our survai and outreach meetings parking preservation was important and this project

preserved 98.5 percent the existing parking spaces on mission street and one block oneter side the street and that had trade offs but we took that seriously. shorter time limits for benefits that can limit such as a bakery or coffee shop where someone isn't staying as long. i think deanna mentioned is we focus our outroach and engagement on two things, first is create as much awareness as possible about the project so for those interested learning more about it commenting on it or providing feedback or ideas they have that opportunity so you see the numbers of things and volume on the slide. one of the best ways to reach a big group of people very quickly is

through the mail and so we used post card in addition to other forms of engagement to make sure people were aware of the project. because parking was communicated a big concern the loading zones resulted double parking. weep went door to door to do a survai of merchants along the corridor, there were two goals, one is ask how the parking and loading was now and anything quee do to change that. we reached about 85 percent, some closeed or not open. the second goal is provide project information so again they were aware of what was being proposed and could choose to participate in the subsequent engagement we had. this is a summary of what that

looked like for opportunities for people to engage with us. what is not mentioned is phone calls and e-mails we also did with people that wanted to choose that as a opportunity. we held 3 open houses. we have heard mixed feedbackoon on the style. we had good attendance mpts 200 dozen seem like a lot but it is lot for a transportation meeting. for those groups open to it we met with them directly, that is better to have focused dialogue about a particular location or particular type of issue somebody might have mpt we did a online survai and collected those via paper for those that don't have computers. i think for innovative techniques what we did is dent hear frequently from bus riders about what they like or don't like what is

proposed so held a pop up open house at 24 street bart plaza and out for about 4 hours and took the community meeting to the street and posted the boards along the fence bart has and were able to collect survais and collected the most there in spanish because the routes we have are primarily low income and minority of mono lingual speakers so wanted to be sensitive to those taking a survey in spanish. we also road the bus and gave out rider cards, it is like a post card you get in the mail. just i mentioned the first one already that was last summer we did do another round of door to door

outreach. the purpose is inform people because the projective approved and designed so it wasn't to offer opportunity for comment but it timeline of outreach so people are aware if there is temporary no parking for construction they wouldn't be surprised. one thing i want to highlight for informing remation to the board based on the feedback and the facts we see how people are using mission streetd, we conducted a survey of 1200 people last summer and it is a very simple survey technique but you ask penal on the street how they got to that particular corridor and if you drive you have to walk to where you are

going unless you park in front. likely you saw us if you were in the street for those days. we collected half surveys in spanish, half in english. we did have cantonese speaker but not that took the survey or may have taken it in english. the profile is representative the neighborhood. we asked people what their home zip code was to get a sense how far they were traveling. the darker the color is basically the higher number of people. this indicates 429 number is 94110 zip code where mission street travels through the heart of. it is indicating the majority of the people or big portion are using the street that live nearby. i think i had a number of conversation with commissioner [inaudible] mentioned east bay and sthee

darking blue ring, there are a number of people that have chosen to leave or forced to leave for various reason jz still coming to the corridor. you cant see it with the subtitles but there is a spine of dark blue that travels on the outer areas of the mission. what we learned from that in addition to where people live and demo graphics is about 83 percent the people are getting the coerder by public transit orwalking. recognize there is 12 percent driving and i hear what people said is any reduction could have a impact. what we also found in terms of talking how people respond mare money, the people walking and taking transit are spending less per trip because thrai

have to carry things further, over time in a year they come more frequently and spending more in a annual basis. shifting now to the here and now the project started implementation on february 13 and it completed a couple weeks ago in terms of the initial phase of construction which was relatively light because it didn't result in dust it was paint and signs. it is targeted to a few locations so won't begenyerally disruptive. we received countless e-mails, everyone is respondsed to by me or public communications director. lots of phone calls. on average we haven't done a scine tiffb assessment because we have gotten so money but about 75 percent are supportive

of the changing. 25 percent not happy coming from drivers and merchants. we have been continuing dialogue with merchant what the concerns are they are seeing and what we can do about those. i think the intent is to make transit a better choice to increase the number of people coming to thir corridor. it is a great wail to scale up the number of people visiting the corridor. you only have so many parking spaces and can't scale it up. the goal is make transit more reliable and quicker. before it wasn't easy to drive or park on mission they may choose to do that. we made a host of changes including signal and roadsway and [inaudible] based on feedback. i want to send the message to this group we

are committed to continue to make adjustments based on feed back where we can. there are certain constraints but we take the feedback seriously and engineer are working hard to address what is suggested to see if it possible to implement and a lot of the changes are done. you may see the parking changes going in today and put those in quickly as we could so the merchant that had those concerns we respond to that. with that i want to thank you for your time, hopefully this was informative in term thofz background and what we are doing now. happy to answer questions from your or members of the public. >> i have a question. you talk about reliability or speed but don't hear discussion of

frequency. speed experience to the transit time is a function of two things, the amount of time you wait and speed of the vehicle. i being someone who lives with the t in dogpatch can tell you that it isn't the speed the vehicle, it is the frequency we experience. we have wait times up to 40 minutes and studies have done to show in new york the subway runs every 3 minutes. in dogpatch we have to the lookt thascij because if we miss the train and that isn't to say the train will show up even if it says on the sign because often times they don't, we call them ghost trains in dogpatch. it is weird because we are really close to the end point for those trains stow the fact they disappear a couple hundred yards from there depot is

bazaar. i don't hear discussion of frequency and hear talks of reliability. reliability is largely a equipment issue unless you talk about accidents. the only thing that effects liability of the trip is whether the vaeck can get from point a to b. it breaks down or doesn't show up or has a accident and if there are thatmany accidents we have a different problem. i don't see where anything here effected the reliability of the system. i see where you troyed to make improvements in the speed and that is a interesting issue because you have competing issue with speed and that is safety. the faster the transporitation, the more likely the therewill be accidents. i would argue we want traffic calming. we have cars traveling 65 miles a hour on third street. faster than any municipal vehicles. we

would rather have the traffic calm so things are safer and people get to point a to b predictbly so predictability is something we should focus on. what are we doing-i realize frequency requires running more vehicle jz vg more drivers at any given time and those are very expensive. they are essential to running a transportation system that works. if the wait time exceeds 7 minutes the system breaks down squand is actually deemed to be unfunctional at greater than 15 minutes which makes most thof t service accept for certain concentration in the day unusable transportation see speak the line i know but i can't imagine it isn't something that effects the system throughout. i use the 22 all the time to get to the

fillmore so familiar with that transit route and i know that the 16th and mission intersection there is a lot of activity there so doesn't surprise me there are alterications and accidents. i like to know the population of the people involved in the accidents because that is also a zone with a lot of drug users and people wandering around through the street against the lights. this is enforcement issue, pedestrians need to obey the laws and to your point the narrow lanes make it difficult because you share with cyclist as well cars. all these things are expensive but frequency is what makes people want toteric the transportation more. often times we'll opt out and go uber if we have to.

i don't use my car around town anymore it is too hard to park so i use uber but i'm stuck in the same situation. shared cars are not a help in a city that is congested because you need right of way which is why i prefer to take rail because it has right of way. if we expapd our rail way that would be the greatest thing for the buck for our citizens and bus transportation as well, and those are great comments i can answer some questions. didn't mention frequency because the routes have benefits from frequent service so you is a bus coming every few minutes depend where you are going. we have high frequency on this street. over the past year we

increased frequency and spans of service on the time of day buses and trains travel by about 10 percent of our annual operating budget for bus and rail so folked on that because know we know it is important. the travel time improvements enables us to do the same number of vehicle jz driver is make the service more frequent and that is aprieved by reducing trip time to get one to oneened of the other you can squeeze a run in the service. this are intended to give more frequency because we appreciate that is important to people that want to use muni. reliability is really mainly deals vehicles breaking down but we see is the biggest issue is traffic congestion so that

is why signal priority and red laneerize enabling the buses to act like trains to have the dedicated right of way so they have a moir reliable trip. when i speak to reliability it is reducing impacts from traffic conditions and delays the buses experience as they travel. speed is a very very good comment. we don't want buses barreling down streets. we talk improves 8 miles a hour to 10. we are not talking about buses going 30 miles a hour because that isn't safe. >> limiting ubinstruction, >> reducing the time going zero. the traffic calm is a good comment. the changes were inteneded to improve safety for people walks as well but we are e-mails that indicated f

specifically in terms of supportive of the changes the street feels calm and that is what we are attributing to less is less noise because there are fewer cars. there are park at the meters but fewer vehicles driving up and down the street which we heard concerns that isn't supportive by everyone but the people that appreciate that for the traffic calm effect we were shocked the number of e-mails those supportive about 20 percent said that specifically the street feels safer and calm and feel safer taking my family to dinner. 16th and mission is a area of concern for pedestrian safety the number one issue is vehicle related collisions so vehicle on vehicle or muni on muni. it is a concern for

pedestrians because i see the issues you brought up. >> any comments? >> thank you for your presentation and want to attest to everyone here, your team they walk what they say so you do respond to e-mails. i have seen him handle issues with smaller merchants so you are not saying it to say it, i attest to that. iulse want to say i don't envy you, you are engineer and have a mission to transit first and respect that and [inaudible] you see people that are opposed to this, goal of ridership they agree to the the overall goal so that is interesting. my concern is you say 67,000 riders and minorities and my mom is rider and minority and can't speak

english and falls under low income so if you tell here i will make the bus faster she will be i'm for it, but do you go fl to unintended consequences? the little grocery store you go to wone be no where. what is the point of shedding 5 minutes if the stuff you go there for isn't there? the percentage of support and opposition which i believe you because the latino cultural merchant corridor isn't there so the twive percent we are hanging by a thread. it is different in other corridors where you are long term lease, these are month to month leases soby the time you make the changes, those businesses will probably not be there. i just really want the sfmta to hear that you have to be cultural

sensitive. we knee the city has to progress and move forward, we are with that, we just want to be included in the process. just because we are in the minority in the mission doesn't mean the minority businesses shoulden be heard. if it is 20 percent we lose 20 percent and a [inaudible] 5 decades for 5 minutes. think about cultural impact you are having. that is where the frustration lies. nobody likes to be imposed on and nobody likes to be told your livingroom [inaudible] i will make it my pathway. it is faster for me to shave 5 seconds. that is the essence of what is going on and why people are frustrated especially small businesses. it is nothing personal. >> thank you for that. when we

explain the benefit of the projects this is something we struggle with because you don't want to say this project could have trade offs and want to try to get people excited about the project. in no way do we set a project to have negative impact on a business so wouldn't call that out because we don't expect it. we had issue with hot dog vendors that were operating on the street and sidewalk we didn't anticipate-we addressed that as quickly as we could and think they are doing well now. feedback is appreciated and how we articulate that because there are benefits to the project but with contrained rights of way there are trade offs so in this situation what

we preserve is parking supply overconveniencef traveling through the corridor which is the trade off of preserving the parking supply. that may seem like two not great choices to certain people, if you run a program in a city you would never design it this narrow. you would have 3 more feet and wouldn't have the trade off we see today. some of the corridors are in that situation where we don't have a lot of space and the goal is do the greatest good for the greatest number see so that is always the goal. >> a balancing in a changing city. we have no further questions from the commissioners so open up for public comment. any members of the public that would like to comment on this item? thank you for your presentation.

>> thank you. my name is gabriel [inaudible] started 43 year assisting the mission cor dpor and small businesses and that is what we are here doing today. just a lot of data you heard is very disengine ws and saddened to hear it. the e-mail survey they spoke where they 75 percent of respaupdants spoerted the project, when we met with sfmta 15 minutes we met with them or at the meeting they said don't go to the media there is a embargo but 15 minutes before the transit [inaudible] to support and oppose the mission threatening the red zone so we are a unimpressed with that level of opposition. i want to tell about their data for the parking. they talk about the

one block-the muni forward project is about mission street but they convolute the data saying 95 percent of the parking isn't effected by adding blocks there is no red striping. if you add all these one block areas which is double on both sides oof mission it will convolute the data. i would look what the respondents come from. we have the transit riders unions it isn't a local mission planning organization so you dpet a respondents not from our neighborhood and organized to talk about these issues. i want to talk about the project. the 14 mission gentrification project or seggration project because we have a business inkue bater [inaudible] and got him a lease at cesar chavez and first

[inaudible] after this happened he reported a 50 percent loss of business. i'm worked up and twrieing to be calm. some like the hot dog carts were not in the out reach for survey because they were given especially accommodation which we don't know if are permanent and given notice their businesses were illegal and have to solicit a business store front to and if they can set up their cart. we have a space and with our space is now illegal. i want to about also the general premise of sfmta is decrease the number of cars. if you are a merchant and buy a lease is reducing the number of traffic [inaudible] and

understand the need to reduce the nob of collision but traffic isn't a shared goal. >> thank you. thank you very much. again, we don't mean to be rude, it is just the 3 minutes rule. >> [inaudible] i am in the mission and the mission is really a great concern to me. so, i am going to say i was interested in the frequency issue and spaiskly asked one the first meeting we were at and asked how much money did you spend. they spent 6 million dollars i was told. i have seen in the news they spent 3.8 million so you tell me what the difference is, it is a lot of difference. then i asked how much does it cost to

put a extra bus route in. i was told a million dollars so i said why mot put 6 new buses on the line that way we dpot more frequency and what i notice now is there is-i don't take the bus on mission. there is no seny people packed, it is standing room only on those buses. at least it was the saturday i was watching them go by. it seems to me it makes more sense to money buying more buses. there is a tendency to not pay people to work. we dont want to give jobs we have it get rid the jobs so what is the point? we get rid of jobs and don't want people to work. we want to pack people in like sardines and make longer

buses-i don't know-to be honest if you have been on mission street what you see is more buses than anything. not only are there regular muni buses, there is tech buses and there is all the other basic shuttle buses particulary an 16 lth street. if you stand on 16th and mission i don't know how anyone is supposed to do anything. there is lined up i can line up 3 or 4 puss on either side of the street any given time of day at that intersection and when the shuttle buses come through it is ridiculous. as far as the situation with the merchants goes, we already heard from them, they are hurting and the fact all of these other neighborhood groups are coming in and looking at what they have done to mission street and saying, we don't want that.

they may have shown people a pretty picture with a bus line and said don't you want a bus lane and said okay, because they didn't knewhat will happen. wesaid the first thing we want to do is get rid the force turns. they have not geten rid the forces turns. that is the number one thing we want. thank you. >> thank you. >> [inaudible] the forced turns need to be in that situation. i think that our bus organizations should be changing

in the routes to work [inaudible] because that way everyone can [inaudible] that way the impact stays at a minimum in the mission. [inaudible] the roads are in

areas that how far apart [inaudible]

>> next speaker, please. >> patricia voy. my experience is what you should be looking for, number 1, we don't have a loss of parking. what you said sir is right, they two blocks down they include something and say that the change of parking

meters. in one case i deal with they say we didn't use meters but changed from general to commercial behind our back and 60 feet away there are 6 yellow parking meters. number 3, the input. i was told in within of moy cases [inaudible] before they presented it to us. i suggest everybody who has a complaint vote [inaudible] 311 get to a special number of complaint or they reply and therefore it can cept by a outside agency. number 4, making things faster. another case they wanted to take away stop signs which we brought to

slow down traffic and put trafing lights, will they bring this back later for traffic lights and changes? i can't remember what number i'm on now. what are the long range plans? are they going safety agreements made with the neighborhoods and [inaudible] like they did with us? i'm very very upset and this goes with piece mealing and deal with the next part of the project. i wish you luck and support the mission people in their opposition to this and our group supports them. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi there. [inaudible] own

[inaudible] art and design in >> they only have a small

windowf time to come tie store so we need parking spaces so between their day and between the hustle kw bustle they can actually come to my neighborhood and support all the different businesses that are there as day time businesses. i see mta changes and effecting day time business. we have [inaudible] in the neighborhood that is we are just seeing less pedestrians and people come toog the neighborhood. they are avoiding mission street and want people to know that we are there and they should come back to mission street. like it is really important. if all the businesses geaway because it is easier for them to geto the different neighborhoods it will be a sad day. i also have been trying to get left hand turn

signals at 29th and vulinsia to that a important to the neighborhood. safety a big issue. on 29th street i walk that to go to work every single day and when it is raining and seen a bus go through the intersection because the red paint that is painted is very very slippery. so that feel like a real danger to my community. the paint they are choosing isn't safe for the buses to stop and pedestrians to feel safe whait is raining. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> [inaudible] lutineo cultural district and one of the first things i noticed in the

presentation is there are no stakeholder issues. i'm concerned about that. engage the community like in tearival where they had stakeholder interviews and separate groups discussing what they want or don't want. that is very telling of some the problems. also, the right turns was very vague and not explained well in lot of meetings and concerned more about the parking because i think it was 150 parking spaces that would have been removed cl shocked people. the right and left turns didn't discus thuryly. i ride the mission bus all the time and in the mission for over 50 years. i know some problems came because the bus on valencia moved and pushed to mission slowed the system down. i do ride the bus during the day and there is a lot less people

riding the bus. i'm surprised to hear they are crowded in the day and appreciate the work matt is doing but done see that in the day. also the buses that were too big for the lanes the buses now and show the picture the buses not in the red zones and we also take picture of them driving on both lanes in the middle. i think it is drivers that need to be looked at and not the size of lanes. i worked with merchant and inorder to engage you have it go 2, 3, 4, 5 times to find out the owner especially in the neighborhood where there isn't a lot of trust with people coming to businesses because a lot of scams that happened to them in the past. i'm surprised they were able to reach that many businesses. it took me a year to build trust