north beach special use district which encourages medium scale and mixed use commercial residential uses columbus as you may know columbus avenue is the heart of north beach and connects the northern with the northern waterfront and aquatic park the in which commercial district controls are intended to protect and sure the viability of north beach with its cafes and local teachers and small businesses and new brunswick the aau has done the modifications to taylor street without public review arrest permits assess to the building is rejected and it requires a card-key for entry it is not an tuff storefront and didn't

contribute to the active uses along columbus avenue and doesn't stimulate public and dead zone on a boulevard that needs life and activity the building that is on that corner of cellist nut and columbus and taylor a dominant location one of the original gap that the fischer's opened better use than a studio i'd like to speak about a building i'm familiar my family owned and operated the cannery several years ago the department of the planning a danish known for improving urban centers by the design forwards the pedestrians among the

recommendations to create on uninterrupted waterfront promenade improving the pedestrian environment of the wafer and improving the greater frontage quality with sidewalk cafes and encouraging activities the aau at the cannery is counter to his vision creates a dead block and jefferson street many people will viefrn gone the sidewalk cafes and the retail stores the public spaces that are scomplaptd and festival entertainment and faefrmz and other activities thank you.

>> good afternoon, commissioners my name is paul wormer i believe that you received an e-mail from the pacific trust on this issue talking about the concerns about illegal conversions the need to replace or restore housing that has been removed from public use and the concern about the spread i won't go into the first two but point out on the map i'm stealing someone's idea here but those little boxes are the locations today and the colored squares are the study areas so what we're seeing is aau is looking at the city how are we're going to continue our

straw now i am a chemist and involved in green house gas emissions and global warming nine out of ten since the early 1990s is there a single contributor reason why we should approve a business with conditional use by the design of property use praedz out over such a large area is only users a shuttle bus that runs during business hours and into the evening how is that good for the city not only in terms of of green house gas emissions and all the impacts of traffic this stall is really if they're developing a real estate empire and acquiring property as a real estate entity that make

sense if you're talking about creating an institution that is certain objectives that requires people to get together and work together this is not good it is not good for the city, it's not good for housing and i guess my substantive comment with respect to the example e p n and draft eir they're not looking at the problem in those documents and how were you able to assess the real impacts without looking at those sorts of overlays and integration you can make an informed decision about what is being proposed and should those uses be granted owner is clearly fine but what are the uses and is that worth changing what we're doing operate comments on

the proposals allow the museums proposals when 33 these come before you thank these come before you thank these come befe you thank you. >> hi, i'm joan part after a theory community you see actresses on stages and hear the music in clubs most of them don't live in the city years ago this hearing would have been packed with actors committed long term to the city now they're gone they have condominium to other cities they - the obviously it is policy has been it's message to create flaps on the ground you're asked to ratify.

every piece of residential building and ever sro that you allow them to convert is an insult to the disappeared locating workers and artist that could have lived there >> thank you. >> public comment? >> not seeing any, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini. >> thanks to staff who did an absolutely amazing job on the e s t m i was impressed with the authorness and in fact, many cases it crafted impacts if 2010 with 2016 which really gave us the idea what is now happening relate to the impacts in 2010 so i think that is very important i think we have to remember is that there are a lot of things that on a he had to go through

the approval process perhaps not be approved perhaps be eliminated but this is a huge institution with a huge impact and we have to bear in mind for example, if housing was eliminated for the students of the academy of art as currently housed they'll be fighting with other people for existing housing somewhere in the city we have to look at that has as consequence of how this is handled and so one of the things i'd like to to suggest staff is suggesting some of the housing not approved but another mitigating measure would be the approval of the building by the academy of housing to replace the housing used ♪ instances and allow that housing into residential unit that allows it in rent control if

this is a building that was old enough for rent controlled that swob would a solution to part of problem i saw our recommendations on various housing i think some of the ones from tourist hotels and other uses that never were long term housing should be allowed to stay i go ago with that you look at carefully the existing housing to see how we create something that creates new housing and accommodates the need to students who were currently at the academy because there are any institutions in san francisco i was a student that does not provide housing for the graduate students compete in the marketplace >> on the other issue you talked the industrial land

i think like most of recommendation we have to be really look at these uses there are possibly somewhere the academy uses those industrial sites for training in the trades and skills needed in industry so that could be considered a pdr use if this is training people in the soft skills that are no longer available we used to have holidays like poly and other schools that specialized in you know oakland tech it was a technical school a system of public schools worked in training for the skills needed in technical jobs auto shop we don't see much of that anywhere those are important po to look at some of the uses in industrial areas and other things on vacant ground floor retail i think we have to anytime we look at this we have

to look at is there a lot of vacant space around where they're using or convert into institutional uses we have to bear in mind when we make our decision as to allow this conversion or not office to institutional uses i think we have to look at the scope of the building too as pointed out by the academy there are some buildings that might be better suited our an institutional rather than a office space with high ceilings or something that suits itself for that sort of usage that is not as well-used for office anywhere anymore and not we're building a lot of new office we have bear in mind those uses and

talk about the religious and those are some of the things a good thing being done by the academy like saint bridges and first congregation that have likely been demolished or possibly would have been if it was taken over over by the academy seismically retrofit and for profit they pay property tax not the case when we were a rig institution your recommendations sounds like a wise one to me and a couple of other things i noticed in here looks like in terms of process of the planning commission will hear any planning code changes first before the board of supervisors so i think i understand what the process is there

your study requests very good it looks like the period from 2010 to 2016 the academy came less dense in terms of number of students number of staff and number of students in shuttles so that was an important to know there was a significant downward trend for a variety of reasons a lot more online and perhaps a lot of students taking advantage of other types of transportation rather than using the shuttles and then the the other they know might have missed it the signs and window i assume those have been corrected i know we worked the academy for a lot of years to have the signs eliminated and then the life safety changes i think that is important to point out which ones have been done

and not done because that is a very first priority to take care of the life safety that remains i like the idea of our draft transportation plan i think a lot of step in the right direction and a long laborious problem the problem will not go away it doesn't make sense this is an existing institution they need to be compliant and pay all the fines and all the things they've done in the past and then i think this is a big job but happy it is getting started. >> commissioner wu. >> i wanted to ask staff in order to look at himself well, first of all, this report is good a lot of good information the e stn you've created

something good whether or not good or bad on the housing you've used the criteria of not recommending approval with higher density how that applies to the building others 1916 octavia. >> yeah. >> sorry giving me one second. >> so the property on 1916 aortic is zoned r507 so it would be the maximize density would be two dwelling units and the last use was says here residential

hotel i think i'll have to double check that might be different from we were understanding with when we were evaluating it but generally because rh2 if left to the open market basically revert to a 2 dwelling unit. >> i'd like to see more history maybe i think that the fact it says illegal use of 22 hotel units brings up a different concept may or may not actually be higher density but maybe the criteria t should look at something more like or like resulting in addition units of housing 22 seems the same to me. >> definitely if we found it was residential hotel. >> there was a mixed history i

think the records indicated residential car facility or senior housing but go back on the math it will be converted to a 2 unit building this was an dense use. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much i also echo that staff did a fantastic job on this report a great standard how we look at the properties how they're used and the environmental impacts so this is really, really great work and very helpful for us i remember when we were talking about first started talking about the draft eir and in multiple hearings saw the draft eir the biggest question i

believe most of commissioners was well, if the baseline is whatever it is today how can we really make the eir to make the project approvals in the future we know a history to those properties prior to the baseline when the draft eir was created and the espn answers that with the context with the feedback you asked the commission i'll start with the e stn great work is comprehensive the only thing that i will say about that i appreciated the inclusion of the generation analysis in the transportation appendix but what i try to link that back to the description of the transportation circulation analysis and the housing impact

analysis in the e stn some things that are missing i in many cases so when we talk about that we talk about transportation impacts we ocher have started off by talking about parking space as something that tends to induce trips i believe in the can say of an institution with a campus where especially with the heirs is not just random locations but specific locations that people in that student housing are supposed to be going to you can make an inference between the housing and the level and the amount of trips that will be generate you know where those people are going and i kind of feel like the

transportation and circulation analysis and and e stn didn't address that sort of address the way that the placement of their where they choose to have their student housing induces trips and i'm not sure this is part of the housing analysis or the transportation and circulation i felt like that was missing and the reason i say that that is something key to what i've heard in public utility public comment and various commissioners talking about when they talk about where the housing will be located and whether or not when an inclination to look at the emersed to housing the location the uses those people are going to say not addressed in the espn

i would maybe recommend that some sort of analysis statement to that effect be at but otherwise, it is great i think that is a fantastic compliment to the draft eir. >> in port of that comment about the e stn in terms of the will policy drivers drifshgz that denies the plagues i'll follow-up i mean with you for example, looking at sort of the high-level sort of green and red and in color reasons why the department will support or be inclined to support uses i would say we should talk about explicit whether or not a housing use is in close proximity to the remaining campus for example, whether or

not we are inclined to support conversions of certain used to certain other uses i think we should be considering the placement of housing to the uses that the academy of art expects that the students will be going to and disinclined to approve uses that are farther away from administrative and institutional uses i felt like had is something we should be adding an area we're looking at we're looking at whether or not we're inclined to support or deny a particular case and then 0 i think this is sort of my big one and other than that i have many multiply comments an individual cases from my perspective i'm hoping that is most useful talking about the case

individually i believe i'm very supportive generally of how we're grouping the cases in terms of looking at the different uses and the expectations and each assessment will be coming back before the placing and part of our staff report and choose to adopt those conditions of approval if you see factual errors in the e s t in we'll modify them in your packet to they'll be as complete as possible. >> i don't see any factual errors i think there were a couple of sites in the north beach area and also the marina where i have more specific separate considerations about those particular properties and uses and what is there so i don't know if anything i'll say my impact what is in the e stn or staff report maybe we'll wait

until we see the actual. >> - >> i agree they'll be discussed at the hearings. >> thank you. >> i think one person in public comment i forget the name before rose spoke mentioned no consideration of the affordability levels of housing that was converted to student housing and i can see the point i'll say i felt there was a good discussion in the individual studies of each property over which properties are rent controlled and not i guess the sum to close to talking about the argument we don't have the income levels in particular, the tuff individuals live and work in the unit and finally generally speaking above and beyond any comments about the

transportation circulations my perspective on what we're looking at to look at this passage aau is like any 09 institution that means they have to support the infrastructure that they need for their operation and their clients and in this case being the students some place in the organization a u their representative mentioned aau can be compared to other dense settings the difference i haven't seen in sort of intelligent and smart build out of their infrastructure ation or denying them - an opportunity to

guide them or urban campus not just a bunch of sites all over the place and cannibalizing other places in the city thank you very much. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> an awful lot here the first one to really hats off to the staff the stat staff was briernt couldn't have designed if it a better way with the references specifically page after page after page i realize that and if you add a column to move it in the same colors that my hat's off makes it one hundred percent perfect the memorandum of understanding is amazing i have to fully read it and maybe memorial day weekend but out a

source this to other cities a steadfast excellence. >> i know (laughter) now, one the other things i keep on saying every time that coups with a institutional master plan i really be the city needs to understand what the minimum policy thresholds for each institution for housing that needs to be provide for student body i look at difference post secondary institutions from 2 to 20 percent so we had hastings in the 20 percent and some in the single-digit range that in the future needs to be looked we need to get each institution over a period of time that had been like building a newly creating using existing housing stock i'll say that one more

time with that said, i want went to the emergency of pittsburgh spread out over many, many blocks like the aa you, we should shuts we walked a lot of hills not a bad thing we spaced our classes out to get there by walking rather than having to take take the shutter in hearing number one you do not i don't is a hours or horse in the race but i think around the economic vitally that brought to the city in terms of money that is come in with the students bring and spend like i said with the flip side i think that is what we're dealing with today, the land use issues specifically around housing and i think commercial i guess, sir if you have a minute can i ask you a couple of

questions. >> you presented on our slide a project not clear what the project was my question when you said that where do and don't you agree with the staff policy recommendations. >> i think the observations we've had that you have to look at the entire institution and all of the recommendations both for the existing sites that are covered by the e stn and those sites covered by the eir which are buildings that are nun of which are residential because the question here is how so the academy move forward to function effectively in a way that makes if compatible with this city and improves of presence and tricks

some you've mentioned that requires sitting down with the staff very and going through all of their recommendations which the director has said and said subject to change have that dialogue this is a what we're asking for to have that conducive dialogue now that the facts are in i rather than - >> i don't think building by building duration. >> maybe to staff i can this is call the roll possible it takes time what we're doing on a holistic basis we should look that way if they were today to convert those uses from a to example or x to y what's the terms of avenue nexus study converting the uses of housing what are the fees generated i

think one as well well on is flip side if we look at 9 time this building was converted from x to y and went back and made even though determination what are the most fines in terms of fines to get a picture on whether a $10 million settle settle is something we want to look at on a holistic basis i don't have enough context on the financial impacted from all this activities for lack of a better term so i'd like to see that kind of spreadsheet i don't know well someone brought up the eviction history of the buildings i assumed no evacuees are buy outs but the part on the housing which is a big one in addition to several others if he were to take the units

that are sro units and dwelling units and put them on the market the ownership or whether the liability corps that exist our or the trust of the au there would not be much penalty the students pay for semester and we charge them a market-rate i think 72 hours something b if we look at this in terms of an agreement go back to when we were converted and the rents and add the president 6 percent and say if this tenants stays this is generally what the rent will be i know normally a standard turnover those units were to come back on the market and some type of on agreement should be

based on the attrition rates of tenant but costing the tenants who have to be grounded some something logical. >> like the understanding an awful lot in the 7 or 8 hundred pages if we looked at the recommendations i generally agree with staff on the logic behind the recommends i have a couple of questions generally this is the way we want to say what's the impact in terms of the physical environment so i looked at the map and the goal make sense for the a example u to shrink the footprint to commissioner johnson point more efficient not running shuttle one one person and none on them and traffic issues as well so i think understanding the recommendations and the actual impact on the environment would

be something you would have a finger in the wind would be nice i think if there were some type of master agreement there has to be a told her on the tdm or have a shuttle is from want a to b but sorry no more shuttles; right? or increased the ridership we don't want the impact other than the environment to minimize it with the aau as well. commissioner johnson cannibalized i think the word would be open tunic- there was a

concentration in terms of relationship i think the one question on the staff recommendation is we have a real issue we're seeing permits for hotels yeah. i'd look those those sites and determine whether or not a molt can be demolished and made into a larger industry housing for students back into a higher level of percentage of students that actually live onsite those are far away from the core your i got to get if a to x maybe the molts or backing with the housing dwelling units and retail underneath but as a landlord you have the opportunity to do that that and make trade offs and money

i think again, i come back with some type of an overall agreement a lot of ann novelist - the a example u has breached the public trust we kind of needs something akin to tobacco settlements 25 years of whatever we're going to put money into a pot and address the issues and subtractions and in order to get the public trust back whatever has to have some type of account here's the money and if you step over the line we'll stipulate the judgment thirty days to mc

make that better or there's a real way to get this in a timely manner that is looter things i've heard from the public one comment on one of the items one hundred 50 hayes ms. hester brought up should be use as what it was for so these are my comments >> thank you commissioner moore. >> i think the department deserves a remedies for a wonderful things how this is handled is i'm impressed swpd having said that, that started with the first institutional master plan i've tried to figure out the mission of the school i'm sorry talking about a

mission but it's delivery of teaching and in an urban settings what they teach has always been not clear to any of us saying that i think that is correct to observe the acquisition of properties more opportunity driven and the commissioners noted but with that comes indeed by now for definitely deserves a sprawl what an inability to get of where this conflict is and how severe and what it takes to rectify it is not for me to simply acknowledging their dr a code amendment but i think that has ton driven by a better understanding of how the institution works and how it wants to work in the future because as the institution has grown it has always stated thai

didn't want to describe how and where they operate partially because they consider themselves dynamic that's a fine word as 0 the reality of city planning the reasonable growth of policy and reality dynamic is the problem i want to pick up on the transportation comments made by other commissioners, i see for example, the sprawling shuttle become a liability in order to fully vault the effect one needs to look at where that operates but what is the effectiveness and years and years i think 12 the major observation i happy to live in the middle of the campus the shuttles are empty not only because they're small by the big

ones and in between ones are more than 90 percent empty but they keep on going on and going on but i look at the effectiveness and who and where they're going and why are they going if the first place the memorandum of understanding needs to closer look at the full disclosure what is taught and how that relates to stds students and study a subject matter a proximity itself between xhamentsdz of students living in close proximity to where they're going to school and what is going on we will continuing push the impacts ahead of us we can't fully gage

at some point we have to commit to a more disclosure how the school operates because any of us be it the inner campus commissioner vice president richards went to the urban campus i went to we knew where we were were going it describes we were goes as engineering students or art or business students not changing all the time but in particular case i, only talk about my experience and the many condominiums there was a changing dynamic we need to bring some more clearly defined explanations to unchanging the dynamics and making the circling more predictable and which buildings how we shape our own ability to

support their approval for the institutions the next thing i'd like to say i'm interested to know what in historical preservation jurisdiction and our own what entering was facing we'll jointd looking at the policy issues that deal with what we're concerned about how is that handl handled. >> there are separate approvals required by the historic preservation commission i mean, we, detail a little bit marrow thoroughly if you want to know about that now but were certainly whether or not that is appropriate to have joint hearings month likely the issues they're dealing with are specific and limited and probably not necessarily to have a great deal of interaction we can look at if it that make

sense. >> we should support each other and pro tem other things into play that will be something i'll find permanent helpful i'm as interested in historic preservation as something we feed to support and them to understand our challenges and the last question this is something i might do in a memo to staff i have a couple of questions of traditional clarifications on the excellent memo and outline on the project update she gave his a number of policies i think there are 6 of them in some of those policies i would like to see additional clarification of what is involved but not be the right forum here to further commit i'd like a few more descriptions in that. >> commissioner hillis.

>> so first, i agree with my fellow commissioners on the thoroughness and usefulness of the staff report that was great to synthesize everything and i generally agree with the approach stabilizing the policy rationale behind when faced with the decisions about prfldz hif those would live in close proximity we'll get for information particularly on the housing and the retail recommendations that are made i think many people brought up the housing issues that the city faces and you know we've taken offline housing how we rectify

some of that specifically on the hotel xheshs there is a property on sutter street and 620 sutro i sutter street one requires a conditional use and one didn't specify why that's the case and the history of those, too they look like they were housing and converted to hotels but as we get more information and you have it now or part of the future discussion on - >> so the 1 open sutter street is that one of them. >> no 817 the commodore and the 620 sutter street in the ones that is the kind of

tourists hotels were those sro tourist hotels or? >> for both the legal use tourist hotels the reason for this they're in different zones and close in proximity one in the c-3 has a right and a the others in our core district requires the conditional use authorization. >> so the one in the c g allows student housing. >> it allows the group housing with as of right in the rc-4 is group housing. >> we get those in the fire chief it would building great to understand the 3 of them when they were operate as kind of tourists hotels that sro slash third tourist hotel we've seen before so some understanding and also you know discussions come

up about what percent of that student population is house in aau how that compares to other universities and i know that we've gotten, you know, part of this we're bringing issues related to the cus but the broader how will we enforce that thirty percent of students be occupied in aau owned facilities and questions about encouraging requiring new facilities be built for housing you know this process didn't necessarily give us that ability the institutional master plan has been not a lot of teeth we talk about it and get accept the institutional master plan and their intent but you know it would be nice to get more teeth

to that process as we go you know, i guess when those come back to us some recommendations how we address some of the longer issues brought up but i generally agree where this the the approach that was taken in the recommendations in the staff report. >> director rahaim. >> thank you. i want to kind of summarize what i heard in the commission and give us direction for the next two weeks the date july 28th that will be the next hearing we'll present the eir to you for conversation as well as the in violation of essentially part of the planning code changes for housing i heard you said they generally supported the policy basis for the early recommendations with one addition which was to look at the assistant housing to the

actual san francisco public utilities commission to try to address the transportation i heard a lot of support for looking holistically at all the buildings and looking at the intent of the campus that was kind of the intent for the policy basis recommendations but i think perhaps the thing to side when we come back with the first banish of approvals and disapproved approvals to have a discussion why in the context of the larger institutional property we'll be recommending approval or disapproval we'll do that a specific request about the octavia building do more research for it this building where under the influence a question of dloefg into the policy basis look at the rationale and look at the benchmarking defines other institutions particularly on

percentage of students that are housed trying to do that as well and then also at whole history of how the buildings but used if possible and looking at the potential fines and fees paid in the past having the building gone forward legacy that's the list i'm sure staff was taking notes but the list from the commissioners questions or comments into the next phase. >> okay commissioner moore. >> i wasn't. >> - >> okay. thank you very much great staff work additional look forward to the next hearing in july. >> commissioners just as reminder 10 ab have been continued to june 2nd

so the only remaining item on the agenda is general public comment. >> okay. any general public comment this afternoon. >> we'll let the room clear out for a second. >> okay continuing on general public comment hello, again commissioners so as you all know we're

fighting for the soul of our city each of us no matter position has an ethical obligation to help our community from becoming for profit playground for the rich i don't blame the rich or any of you we're part of the society that likes the rich and the famous for the soul purpose now is profit we're here before you with a deeper soul purpose to keep our teachers and laborers to raise their children and take care of their elderly i've been to thousands of public meetings over the years like this one and time after time i've witnessed adjoin plans amended, zoning changed and financing offered

from the city coffers when the public makes the case to live and work and breathe easier we're often told you're hands are tied there is always a way to defend the communities with will by supporting the essential purpose of laws that is to enhance a vibrant cultural and community be creative and listen to the publics comments and find a way to make sure that the beast only bryant is not a deficit to our city we're glad to hear this is delayed to off more chances to negotiate with the developer and hopefully, they come to the table and listened and see do proposals public school not -

this didn't have a enough of a profit factor this must be part of it from the beginning. >> let me call a few more names come on up, sir (calling names). >> yes david gibson thank you very much for letting me continue rewarding 10 ab you people have to stop this so is the mayor and public supervisors you will have to stop this i'm tired people sleeping on bart trains and laundry mats that will add this has to stop two weeks of extension to meet with the people the private

developers that's the bottom line this is has to stop, stop this nonsense thank you. >> good afternoon again commissioners i e-mailed a letter a couple days ago but probably got mary again, i'm not going to read the entire letter but thank you for continuing this matter we believe areas of negotiation with the developer and it is good we have the time and hope that you will, of course, consider this things we've been asking for about one to one replacement for pdr and i guess sort of what we are seeing once again the deals with made

and we just need to remember the people out in the streets who lost their homes because of these deals were made i guess was a shooting today so we'll be hearing about that again and how do we keep those situations from happening it seems like i saw the media ready to do a really big one day event with they'll deal with the homeless on the 29 i guess of this month and this is got to be contributing to the homeless situation that's what we're really concerned about we're concerned about the homeless situation you've got to be concerned about gentrification because this is basically what is pushing everyone out of their homes and some people can afford to move to vallejo and some

people not afford to move by allowing the affordable units and the affordability of the city to continue to skyrocket or slide or, however, you want to describe it we're contributing to the whole situation certainly not holding you getable but mart of the process, however, to slow it down is appreciated thank you. >> hi good afternoon, commissioners i'm tracey from pacific factory from the be on bryant coalition and media alliance i want to say to you this afternoon as you consider this project and continued it once again that i'm really hoping you'll start

lookings in a holistic way this is not the only mission based luxury project you'll see 6 more in the pipeline coming in the next 3 to 6 months and this is for a neighborhood where we have reached saturation point according tour how studies in the luxury housing marketplace a while guarantee ago what are we are doing we're studying and making the problem worse there is a disconnect between our stated tings and goals and the actions we're tail taking what the not possible but predictable outcomes as those actions sometimes that happens we're not looking at things holistically but taking them project by project we can't

afford to do that anymore in particular situation you have a concrete community-based proposal probably not perfect no proposal is but lace out the kind of taxed axes to turn those projects one by one into things we'll not center the exact predictable outcomes that we are saying in our reports over and over and over and over again, we can't have the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results 42 hours that needs to stop this project is a good place to say if we want different outcomes do different things i encourage you to take advantage of this period of time to do something different and to do something better for our city and for this neighborhood thank you.

>> hello commissioners my name is jonathan i stood there this commission 16 years ago and was asking the president annette harris if she would imagine a future of san francisco without arts a san francisco without musicians, a san francisco without communities or color and she was frustrated with my comments i was doing it in the voice of her grandchildren and asking grandmother why this way would certificate of occupancy you have done and anyway she took about 30 seconds of my time to

scold the audience for getting animated at which point i got my time back and i had 3 minutes and going to continue it speak the full 3 minutes even though you took 3 minutes of my time the buzzer rank they gaefld for a sheriff bailiff that wrestled me to the ground and made first page in the san jose and san francisco chronicle and open tribune and ran for two days on the news battle gets ugly this is an opportunity now to initiate some policy changes that mandate community planning

process i was unfortunate to be part of community with the citizens housing in 2002 and the mosaic project is the result what happens we undertook nonprofit sell space was an organization he was the founder a community partner and other nonprofits we made every effort to reach out to all the stakeholders as a result we met for months and months and hammered out the delays as a result when the project was feinstein sort of inenvisioned was approved if we don't do a community planning process we had over 200 people confirmed to speak that is because they have not been heard the developer is not willing or interested in

meeting with the community interested in satisfying the wall street real estate investors and not the community thank you. >> speaking of wall street the genisis part of j.p. morgan chase requiring 20 percent returns that's part of why o'dell is not having the money to do anything other than the absolute minimum this is the biggest project from the mission in a while and there hadn't b&b been any affordable builder now the opportunity to work it we did a rough sketch which is here of what amount of profits we'll see by the minimums this is

$18 million in profits i think there is wiggle room those are figures based on meetings with olsen and the community and builders association who calm came up with the idea of 6 hundred thousand to build a project we've not seen his book like across the street he will meet with some of our people that would then sign a confidentiality and agreement and go over the performa to see if there is any widen room it is k s we'll figure out the best deal more affordable housing that will retain and protect the pdr lost this is the backbone of the mission with blue-collar jobs with spanish speaking

without an education and earner for your family the propaganda from them pr if i remember, he will take a blighted block and build this was two years ago a 24r50i6r8 community two years ago union jobs doing work that is shipped out to canada works auto repair middle-income guys were raising a family and jonathan talked about this building has such a potential we have moderate plan that is asking for 10 thousand more square feet that makes it a 50 percent affordability we're thankful the pressure of right thing to do didn't happen we'll sit with them and hopefully,

will be able to do something i've raised on the phone a couple million dollars for people willing to put with local 261 come up with 500-0000 and money we don't require 20 percent we require - thank you. >> okay. any other general public comment. >> my name is a andy a paradox in the artistic community honorable this is the very first time i'm addressing government in a way no with a drama or a raised fist i'll coming to speak to government and say i don't hold you in contempt for you

actions this time we're in is one way the government is clearly seeing more the first time in a participatory way to be called to communicate with the people there is a democracy being born it is different than what has been before and in this time people will come and they will want to share and have strategies they will have ideas they will crowd fund they'll find ways to raise the money and find ways to communicate to their constituency and actually create something of value for them skigz the communication that is vitally it is the communication that happens between us the people and you the representatives that speak to the greater representatives that sets the codes and laws there

are manager i can't tell - people who have not the most money can afford to send their agents to be manipulated to do their bidding tailor wise people that live here willing to work with you, please please listen to us before it's down to torchs and pitch forecloses it's changing we all know 24 so, please just consider what time we're in and there are very many people willing to work with you and the strategies that can

afford an actual communication with the people not just the one percent thank you very much. >> (calling names) and good afternoon, commissioners i'm sorry eric i just want to talk about commemorative effects of the mission we are founder of the latino cultural we have 5 large developments that are coming in the latino cultural district within the next month or two and we're talking about 2 thousand market-rate housing into the mission we really need to look at the bigger picture of what is happening i know we're not down or done with the map yet not in place we need to slow down and

look at the projects how they can benefit the community right now what we're seeing with the developers they're creating a lot of smoke and mystery as well as the benefits to the community we have to look at those projects closely and looking at how they add up to what they're putting out to the media and community and the benefits to the community they're really not not - you know those numbers are coming out not accurate been i medium of the folks in the neighborhood i'm from the neighborhood we need to look at the numbers add them howe up how they benefit the community we're also requesting in the district hopefully, a report for a social economic report for the eastern neighborhoods plan did an eir

with the latino cultural district was not in place at that time, we need to look at things that didn't work yesterday so i'll ask you to look at things closely and making sure they truly benefit the community thank you. >> my name is kim i'm here to talk about 2000 bryant i live in the outer mission i'm butt in this is setting back the precedent in the mission what other projects will look like setting the precedent in excelsior or tenderloin with people where they live it is good you delay and i'm hoping you'll keep the pressure on what is happening in the city we want to doing everything we can to fix it i'll conclude what

someone said about manhattan you can say about a city of rich people and good things to say about a city of mostly rich people but not say is interesting. >> good afternoon. my name is rodney i'm here to talk about what i've been seeing i'm an artist an educator so iuoe i talk about what is happening in both of those areas my friends and coworkers are leaving they can't stay here when you put like the beast on bryant and the other developments in the city and call them market-rate housing they can't stay here they're picking up their practices and not moving just away from san francisco to the

eastbound or richmond that's getting tapped out not oakland or vallejo my friends were teacher where i work in san francisco at independence high school they can't afford to live here close to their work to the point where a friend of mine her sister sister-in-law and brother their choices are seattle and portland people have to pick up and leave people educated and professionals their department of human resources and nurses their you are your accountant people that provide the mid-level services they can't stay here my friends artists most people think of artist they sort of live and work make sure

we are flakey most of artists are 9 to 5 and 9 to 12 job they can't stay here because of the concerns of work and live and how they'll make money for them this is too much they much rather move to new york where their supported y where their supported in neither culture and value in what they do than stay in the bay area it is just makes you sad to that is my friends are to the that the it is just leaving so where does that leave you you don't know you don't have people to teach our kids and things are the sample it is a drop in the acknowledging population here they've been leaving for years

so with the beast on bryant we're asking as you people said earlier it is setting a precedent a bad precedent where a splap in the face for people po that love and bought into the is various cultures and can't stay here thank you very much. >> next speaker >> hello commissioners i'll be brief peter with the cultural action network and thank you for the continuance this is an important step to figure out something i want to talk about a couple of things in a general way i think the breast on bryant is in a strong relationship to i'll ask you to think we add to the population about 200015 luxury units into the mission in the pipeline we

don't think the mission is with stand that that doesn't destroy the economic fabric that's the way the commission community is viewing this we don't think that is necessary like collin shared numbers love to see the developers numbers from the mainline is this is legal i can't afford it anymore we would like to see the performas this is a minimum offer still you know my parents see us in the news on the east coast and my mother from graham called i'm i going to get evicted we're on tv amend from guatemala we have developers with minimum offers this is what a the community is shocked by that a minimum offer

will be pushed forward a 35 be offsite dedication which while the media is confused it is a 26 percent of footprint dedication; right? a minimum dedication they can do a lot more 26 percent of foot he paid $9 million that is where he is mathematically we would like to see the numbers on mission street he shared his numbers with the community as spike showed 100 percent union build and pdr retention 200 and 13 percent owe over our mission of pdr loss and a 50 percent land dedication a significant profit at least on our back of napkin we only do the math the developers do we would like to see the real math and know that the developer can do more and

people are working in this room working to find initiative solutions to finance this we appreciate the continuance and let's ask the developer to do a lot more thank you very much i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> hi commissioners rick haul i was here last week and spoke on the portland project at the at the time quotient repeat i was talking about the eastern neighborhoods plan and it's pace and the rezoning and a lot of issues that are clearly problematic at this time but i stayed and listens to the

q and a and he was somewhat concerned i'm glad for the beast now there say we have two weeks i think there is something you guys use that those weeks for in addition to the things such heard about when i watched planning answer mr. richard questions last week about where we stand in the plan and the numbers it was interesting but the day she didn't present and the questions she didn't answer or answered with a different question her numbers show the basis for the eir that the q and a requires are are obsolete numbers with options abc that were studied without telling you the exact figures that were

applicable to the plan between b and c i'm sure they know the numbers they've shared them in the pdrs she not limited to we're clog to being at a point they can't be approved and averted the conversation how thai keep up with the changes and the impacts and mitigations along the way to be sure what neither recommending a c pe they'll not recommend if they feel they shouldn't feel did that mean planning is redefining the basis with now impacts and mitigations when they're considering how they feel about recommending a c p e is that possibly a legal measure i

sincerely doubt the commission has a duty from accepting recommendations on this basis you know and until it is cleared up i'll be recommending you dr c p e for example, in the mission the projects that show net housing units completed or under environmental impact as of 2016 i'll leave it for you. >> any other general public comment this evening okay not seeing any, general public comment is closed.

and the the meeting is adjourned because we have a great waste water system here in san francisco, we do about 80 million gallons of waste water here in san francisco, which means we basically fill up 120 olympic sized swimming pools each and every day here in the city. we protect public health and safety and environment because we are discharging into the bay and into the ocean. this is essentially the first treatment here at our waste water treatment facility. what we do is slow down the water so that things either settle to the bottom or float to the top. you see we have a nice selection of things floating

around there, things from bubble gum wrappers, toilet paper, whatever you dump down the toilet, whatever gets into our storm drains, that's what gets into our waste water treatment and we have to clean. >> see these chains here, this keeps scum from building up. >> on this end in the liquid end basically we're just trying to produce a good water product that doesn't negatively impact the receiving water so that we have recreation and no bad impact on fish and aquatic life. solids is what's happening. . >> by sludge, what exactly do you mean? is that the actual technical term? . >> it's a technical term and it's used in a lot of different ways, but this is organic

sewage sludge. basically what it is is, oh, maybe things that come out of your garbage disposal, things that are fecal in nature. it's sludge left in the water after the primary treatment, then we blend those two over and send them over to digestion. this building is built to replace tanks here that were so odoriferous they would curl your hair. we built this as an interim process. >> is there a coagulant introduced somewhere in the middle of this? . >> this coagulant brings solids together and lets the water run through. that gives us more time in the digestion process, more time to reduce the amount of solids. these are the biggest ones in

the world, like we always like to do in san francisco. they are 4 meter, there's none like it in the world. >> really? wow. >> three meters, usually. we got the biggest, if not the best. so here we are. look at that baby hum. river of sludge. >> one of the things is we use bacteria that's common in our own guts to create this reduction. it's like an extra digestion. one of the things we have to do to facilitate that is heat that sludge up and keep it at the temperature our body likes, 98.6 degrees. >> so what we have here is the heat exchanger for digester no. 6. these clog up with debris and we're coming in to -- next wet weather season so we always come through here, clean them out, make sure that we get maximum heat exchange during

the colder wet weather. sludge season. >> rubber glove. >> right here. >> rubber glove, excellent. all right, guys. >> thank you. >> good luck. >> this is the full on hazmat. . >> residual liquid. we're taking it time to let it drain. we don't want to get sludge on it necessarily. take your time. stand on the side of it. . >> should we let it release for a while? . >> let it release. >> is that the technical term? . >> this is the most important bolt on the whole thing. this is the locking bolt. it locks this thing right in

place. so now. >> take your hammer and what we want to do, we get rag build up right in here. the hot water recirculates right in here, the sludge recirculates in here. the sludge sometimes has rags in it. all we want to do is go around the clean the rags. let me show you how. take the slide hammer, go all the way through the back, go around. >> got you. >> during the real rainy season, how does that change the way dealing with this job? is it a lot more stuff in there? . >> what we do, charles, we do this quarterly. every four months we go around and clean all the heat exchangers so we don't have a large build up. . >> go around?

. >> yeah. (sound of hammering). >> what i'm trying to do, charles, is always pull it out on the low stroke. >> right. so you are not, like, flying out. now talk about clean up. . >> then where does this stuff get deposited? . >> we're going to dump it in a debris box and it will go back to the plant. >> if you think back, the romans came up with a system of plumbing that allowed us it use water to transport waste away

from the hub of civilization, which enabled cities to grow. . >> you have a large bowl, a drive motor and another motor with a planetary gearbox with differential pressure inside there. the large mass up there spinning separating the solids from the liquid. we have to prevent about once a month, we go in there grease those, change the oil, check the vibration levels. the operators can tell just by the hum of that machine that it's a harmonic noise emitted that it's out of balance and the machine needs to be cleaned. it will start vibrating and we have vibration analysis machines that will come over here and check the levels. so it's kind of an on-going thing that you have to stay on

top of on a daily basis. >> handled properly, you take organic residuals, as we call them, that are leftovers of our society and turn them back into some energy. and we have another ability to take that sludge and get a nutrient value for crops there. we actually are running a kind of composting energy recovery system. >> well, this is a dirty job. we try to do it safely and we try to do it without imposing too much on the public. people want to flush their toilets and have things go away and not be bothersome again. we do a lot to try to accomplish that. i'd like to invite you to come back any time you want. once you got this in your blood, you are not going to be able to stay away. the raging waters are fun and when we do digester cleaning i

really hope you can come back. that's quite a sight. >> yeah, that sounds interesting. >> i really appreciate you coming by and it was a >> your name and item and pass to to the staff i'll call you during public comment and thank you to sfgovtv and the media services for producing this live every time we meet go ahead and start with the roll call. >> commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan here. >> all right. that's a quorum none taking any bathroom breaks otherwise thank you all right. so the first item is general public comment this is public comment on any item relates to the entertainment commission

that is not currently agendized any. not seeing any, public comment is closed. monarch to item number two meeting minutes i have one change just to make i was to the present at the meeting i couldn't have called it to order besides that noting no changes or amendments no quorum of people >> i move to continue the minutes. >> a motion to continue. >> second all right. commissioner joseph commissioner lee commissioner frost president tan the motion continues to the next meeting you want to move on to item number 3 our executive director is gone for a little awhile but you are amazing staff pass it on to inspector burke you want to start.

>> i'd like to start good evening two complaints have come in one for mellone pizza there are a couple of issues at hand we're working to disseminate them the complaint are mechanical noise from equipment attached to the building an exhaustive fan claimed about the lack of bathroom facilities and patrons farth gathering between 2 and 4 maggie and i have working educating the complaint what avenues as far as follow-up with the different departments and work on addressing the patrons i did stop in 245 to 215

and not in the way of business concert staff everything looked calm i'll continue to follow up we received a call about the cafeteria royal containment complaint of music from the complaint doesn't live close by and not being involved in any follow-up investigations i'll put that on my list for route patrol i spoke with the operator we planned on meeting this weekend and my old stomg grounds i looked at propaganda this past weekend there was some concern historically about the flow of patrons in and out noise gathering for smoking and things

like that i didn't notice anything over the past weekend temple has historically had good crowds on howard street i'm noticing a good security staff and good lines i do need to talk to them about keeping the doors closed to the front i'll be following up this we're adjourned about that and stopped by cal's irish bar that past weekend and it is a bit of a madhouse out there with one lane the traffic cars and ubers and their exit is a bit overwhelming i talked with the owner for quite a bit he was active in guiding the traffic and patrons and looking that while i was there we had a chat about the difficulties he's had

with dealing with just the general operation of the business on that street and the amount of people and continue to follow up and see if we can't figure out to make that has safe as possible and i followed up with 50 as well over the past weekend they have an extended hours permit i notice a few of their security from other establishment people i know to be good security and did a walk through one of the places since we've switched district and ton to a glow there interesting thing about 9550 if you have a live video feed - >> isn't that the human video

game. >> indeed. >> did they change that to 9550. >> it is 9550 what they're doing a called the human video game. >> we approved the permit now i on intersections you're absolutely right. >> thank you sir, i love being right. >> that's unusually usually the case i understand they have plans under the event it was private. >> oh, i see maybe we're both right that wraps up i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> actually, i the president to brought to your attention something i've promised last hearing attached to my meeting notices you'll find some information about hsa to as far

as the photos that were sent by the builder did go back to weekends ago and took are measurement not fined to be in violation bans the a.m. boinlt measurement 2, 3, 4 previous weeks i've followed up with the builder and the real estate agent for this property and now am attempting to act as a mediator between the operator ate the builder and real estate agent to establish a level where everyone is happy i have yet to hear back from the real estate agent at this point in about a week and i'm just waiting on that to take the next step. >> did you mention to the real estate agent that it was bizarre reare getting noise complaint from on unopted out premise. >> i expressed did confusion.

>> what did he say. >> initially when the complaint first came through i was under the impression that maybe there was some how can i put this - >> they were trying to file a traditionally sound grievance complaint once i realized the building was unaccompanied in talking to the builder is a situation he wants to know where we stands and what he can expect them so everyone is on the same page and aware of at what level and now that this building is in place so my goal is to try to come up with that unable i on intersections it's required by the state of california to do a

disclosure of value of the property i have one question about the temple. >> uh-huh. >> temple has been known to use dogs on the security line. >> they have. >> are they still. >> not this past weekend. >> they've used that. >> i discovered that last time that was the only time for me i've not seen that sense but not sure. >> yeah. >> you know how i feel about dogs. >> i have a quick question. >> uh-huh. >> i'm seeing venues i haven't seen on inspection are you guys approaching that or hitting it like extended hours. >> so this mellone the speakers name for the written record, and please deliver it to the secretary prior to after hours. >> the complaint driven and

the 9550 has been fairly in active and i on intersections this is based on the human video game they're doing goes in waves i noticed a listing i've been going through the new district i've taken over from inspector pauley using the sf station and website to try to get an idea of what's happening in the city and sort of organizing any weekend like that i on intersections we're your probably getting that by the fact i've not been in the district for a while. >> uh-huh. >> i'm trying to get a feeling what is going on. >> that would be great of that's helpful. >> i've seen the after housing and their i've been out that way

myself late. >> i want to compliment you on the nuking new formulate. >> it is really clean and easy to read inspector pauley. >> i'll take notes (laughter). >> and send along the template. >> great using video drops on your phone. >> good evening commissioners to respond to the question you'll see from the me in the next couple of weeks random drop ins we have not been in in a while non-regular stuff for the next month or two until we get through most of the inspections we did losses ended my list is kind of short i've been making contact are complainants that were formally

shawn was in contract contact with in the process of waiting for complaint and so forth and the projects getting ready to start the inspections. >> with that said, i stopped by one venue during the inspection process they didn't center a permit posted that was the issues i thought was well-managed and did a walk through so this was that a couple of compliance on 16th street just to get an idea of what is going on i've done that for the last couple weekends but that was an issue that issue was people congregating into the alley to keep an eye on it looked fine the knock out on mission street is another one and that one had issues with

leaving the door open during performance and there was a complaint i was dealing with that and decided it was fine the door was shut a accountant of follow-up on the last hearing i talked with monroe about the complainant is the landlord of the building next door talked to the complainant well and what they originally minded the complaint wanted sound at the time a similar situation the building is you think opted out i expressed basically, we don't approach it personally we want to work together to try to solve the issue rather than an enforcement action so initially when i talked to the building owner about a month ago they weren't on board with dealing with the memo i made it clear

that's right the route he agreed to a meeting so that's going to be be passed on to shawn we'll see where that goes the square so they finally took the speakers out of the wall the complainant is not totally happy but how i feel is that the venue after initial bumps and bruises they've gone above and beyond to try to appease the neighbor and eliminate the sound issue evident in the bar listening to the speakers on the wall but on the wall created a problem nevertheless, they took them out the complainant said it is not as loud in here unit she hears imaginations or things but utter is better they're in compliance but at some point we

might discover something i'll pass that off. >> did you take any reading in the complainant apartment. >> i did initial but given the sound level - i took readings initially last are summer in the process of permitting this time around when i was in the bar they were at 71 well below the 82 or 85 i knew that wouldn't be loud per say in the apartment. >> concentrated because of the speakers in the wall for instance, like kick drums and base not be a violation in the residence but the thumping is something annoying so i did not on intersections that i needed to do that i really didn't i knew the issue i've heard the

speaker noise i told them to remove it into the wall. >> new complaint came through it was last week talked to the complainant after she called in and talked with maggie for awhile noah valley ministry a church our sanchez street the issue is noise from a couple of noise not entertainment noises and some possible unpermitted activity i'm not sure what their permitted to do through the planning department but after talking with maggie i contacted the planning department and didn't get back to the team they didn't get back to me about what their you allowed to do right now they're doing events they have ticket prices like 35 to

$75 not average church stuff like a donation not you know it wouldn't be a ticket thing. >> entertainment being. >> what kind of a band the flier said for the description said like a singer and a violin player this kind of thing. >> leader like a concert. >> basically classic. >> so the noah valley ministries and thai have been credibly activist in the community doing all kinds of fundraiser from hiv to hopeless dogs and loud in the k34u7b89 so something new running the place and we heard something new in terms of operation but really they're the phases of an

investigation and the complainant she's done a lot of reach but been there for 20 years just starting to be a problem for them. >> noah valley ministry. >> i talked to them today, i talked to the complainant today and since they're having an event it make sense for me to go out and talk to them. >> for the years they've been credibly good people i think. >> what the issue they had construction with the vestibular that blocks the back of the building i guess it was blouk a lot of noise i don't know what everyone did but now the noise is not blocked for the neighborhood being impacted by things that maybe were unpermitted before didn't bother anybody. >> so we'll see what happens

again i'll go out there friday is the confusion around the date i belive it is friday that is the date on the ticket whatever so - the neighbor said he'll have a sounds like consultant take reading so we'll see what turns up the main issue the unpermitted entertainment and if they need to get a permitted that's the first one after discussing that with the deputy superintendent wilder really the first thing. >> i have a question on monroe so if east-southeast complaining about the regular operations or after hours. >> regular. >> regular. >> so xraip about the after hours that was like a supplemental thing it is really quiet no matter what they do you know 4 or 5 in the morning or whatever they start alu you're

going to hear that in the property because - >> the dude didn't live there. >> he didn't live there i haven't twaukd him he might own the building in part i'm not sure about the division- >> not there after hours. >> no, not after hours he said he has someone that moved out because of the noise but a few different sources there is the bamboo hut a in the basement you can hear monroe the windows face over the roof monroe you hear but we all know the sound within you know 50 foot radius or 70 all contributing so we'll figure out what is going on and hopefully, they'll resolve it on their own.

>> without heavy enforcement work. >> great any more questions for either inspector commissions? ash all right. public comment any public comment? seeing none item 4 police department questions or comments anything tonight monopoly move on to item 5 the hearing discussion and possible action for applications for permits in the jurisdiction of entertainment commission 3 i'm going to turn it over to to the deputy director. >> the first permit application is actually a loudspeaker permit for an event called the detroit show on july 30th, 2016, at home sharer with or win with selma close to harrison in front of the studios and the applicant is requesting

to extend until 12:00 a.m. so wanted to bring this hear they'll have djs playing in the street they already have an eis cot permit and feedback feedback approving this permit you'll see the conditions attached so she's our applicant and done neighborhood outreach with the files and received no negative feedback about the event here to tell you a little bit more. >> can you talk into microphone. >> thank you maggie and commissioners i'm from halves we've put on an event similar no november we didn't need a loudspeaker but all the neighbors are familiar with us and invited braurnd and they're

supportive this event this the builders about detroit and different artists where an art gallery with detroit djs and food and we just got oures scott permit and been in touch with the officer mc2k07b8d who suggested we get 6 security officers from the security corporation and two, 10 b officers we're in the process of doing that's all. >> did the november event go until mint. >> no 11:00 p.m. >> so the neighborhood is familiar with having something go on to that late. >> yes. you guys didn't know. >> it was a brass band again,

no pa we didn't have a need to do it so everyone was fine with it, it is zoned commercial so there's very few residents that actually live there. >> tailor a few but they're all very aware what the supporters and come to the events and yeah. >> is that a public event or ticketed. >> a public event that is ticket as well we're blocking off harrison and have two officers on heron and ticketing on heron and officers checking people they have stamps saying they can come in and out. >> are you serving alcohol. >> yes. >> how do the ticket an event in the streets.

>> we sell tickets online beforehand and ticketed at the door. >> how do you do that for a street in the public street i thought that was not permit. >> they can have a ticket event but have to allow local assess all the time. >> i believe they. >> is that changed in the last year. >> i don't know. >> san francisco pride closed 16 blocks and can't ask for donations because you can't you know - i mean it is curious to me because i don't - commissioner frost do you have any ideas. >> no ideas. >> the use of streets because you did a street closer. >> you can't block off the

skulks i sidewalks i'm curious i don't know anyone else. >> asian art museum rent out for the civic center and the gallery so - because that is is specific about 3 permit. >> i was curious they received the permit in full detail. >> i just didn't on intersections you can sell ticket it's interesting to know if you could. >> i have no idea. >> be interested to know i'm asking out of curious. >> mural from the sfmta. >> right. >> direct questions specifically about that particular permit any other questions or comments commissioner lee. >> so those neighbors your nearby you said there are few have you reached out to them

with a heads up. >> any letters i don't see any letters. >> we actually spoken we have a letter we printed out and given to some people we're in touch with most of them you know, i on intersections almost on a daily basis we let them know ahead of time an event is coming up and invited them their seamly existed. >> i don't see anything in the packet. >> oh, with the letter. >> usually there's a support letter. >> there? >> yeah. we included the letter in the application. >> no, like feedback letter. >> feedback. >> oh, from the neighborhoods. >> feedback letter. >> oh. >> not your - >> it is something we have to have. >> so you'll stand into the neighborhood that's so kind.

>> we don't need that but helps your argument to know that the neighbors are not just there with ticket but can publicly say we support this our numbering complaint is a neighbor upset. >> my phone call is on the letter that they've been handed and they know me personally most of them have a personal relationship with them if any kind of thing their unhappy they know to contact me. >> have the read the police conditions. >> yeah. yeah, the 6 locations so it will be at heron for that one night and turn it down as requested. >> sure no problem. >> all right. any other questions from commissioners can i ask the one question to our staff did i guys have any particular concerns or

what is this out of ordinary >> because of the location and the fact have not applied for a loudspeaker to extend beyond 10:00 p.m. we want you to define. >> okay. >> well, that sounds like no major concerns ami open up for public comment any public comment on this particular permit no public comment public comment is closed. >> move to approve. >> back up with police conditions. >> yes. a motion to approve with the police conditions and a second. >> second. >> all right. vote. >> same house, same call? >> yep. yep. >> that means the motion passes good luck now the s