>> the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonight's agenda and please rise for the pledge of allegiance

and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> commissioner president loftus i'd like to call roll commissioner president loftus commissioner turman commissioner marshall commissioner dejesus is in route and commissioner mazzuco commissioner wong commissioner melara commissioner president loftus we have quorum and with use it police chief tony and for the decoration of office of citizens complaints sam. >> thank you sergeant. >> good evening and welcome. >> to the monday, may 31, 2016, first police commission we'll begin with the secretary of commission gloss the rules of order the public is welcome to address

the commission on items not on tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole which are the jurisdiction and not been suggest of public comment on other items on the agendas the president may set a reasonable time limit depending on the complexity and the length of the agenda and the number of persons present tonight's public comment will be limited to 2 minutes. >> speakers must speak from the podium when addressing and speak clearly and refrain from profanity and yelling and screaming commissioners find it difficult to address comments in such a pattern tonight's agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners

or departments or occi personal. patrolling to the questions but may provide a brief response. not express vocal. >> vocal support or option made by members of the public applause and business legacy are prohibited members of the public not use the signs that impede the commission to see or participate in the meeting or endanger participants cameras maybe brought into the room, however, flashes and other things to disrupt the meeting the president shall order the removal any person that comments the the following acts disorderly conduct for the disruption has making noise and

speaking out of turn and review refuse to behalf and tending to disruptive the orderly and disabstinence for the president that shall include an order to be seated any other unlawful with the orderly course of meeting naengs to effecting the removal of any person's from the room that has violated the orders and decorum the president asked persons under arrest for the section of the california penal code or any applicable law and cause persons to be held in violation signed by the secretary. >> okay sergeant, next line item. >> item one consent calendar

receive and file action requesting the police chief for 7 electronic defibrillators to be placed in new patrol cars and assigned to the 10 district station with $10,000 plus. >> colleagues in your packet donation for mrs. linda regarding this any questions c0 can i have a motion? >> so >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> >> public comment i'm sorry. >> i'm withdraw any any public comment on the consent calendar to accept this donation. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> commissioners my name is francisco da costa if we are alive and kicking and being if san francisco for the last three weeks changes are

happening and in order for changes to happen we have to build trust and in order for us to build trust our hearts have to be in the right place today. >> this is public comment on the consent we'll get to general public comment this is whether or not. >> i know i'm going to get there. >> the mayor today has released a document this document linked to our project shadows every action that will take place in this chambers or in this hall in our deliberations so i'm asking you

said very well about your consent agenda items i'm asking all of you as the representative of the first people of this san francisco muwekma ohlone our ordinances and rules all matter but what really matters is to have our hearts in the right place. >> again public comment is limited to the consent calendar whether or not to accept the automatic defibrillators after that you have a right to general public comment. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening from the foundation i noticed this is the second time in three weeks interest is a donation of the debe fliblz

which i think is a good idea because in- we'll be able to apply the defibrillators we know that today, we're starting to discuss this towards the vote on june 22nd it means we're starting to increase the amount of defibrillator units this would potentially revise people killed by a police so we just need to stay alert here with the defibrillator useful tool but are we getting the remedy before the lethal weapon that's my

question. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening i share the sentiment of my colleague except i'll not pose it as a question my firm belief this donation of the defibrillators to the department is directly intended to coincide with the introduction of tasers this is a against the will of the people and that issue should in the be expected accepted i grant that providing necessary life saving equipment to people involved in altercations that involves serious bodily injury are death is generally a good idea but i find in his try in the

fact this donation occurs right he moment this body is considering the use of conducted energy devices that is a subterfuge and a vote to accept this. "question: vote against the people >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> >> peter this is not the defibrillator i'm speaking defliblz and welcome to the new chief financial officer. >> who will argue against a product being given to the police department but there is a very interesting kind of a contradictory reality going on here i handed out those packet and given them to some of you and one of these talks about

cohort electroweaponry it is sophisticated and very available in fact, that article amongst pinpoints the tenderloin for having been used for this thing mind control through frequencies and a lot of this stuff stops your hearts it is used to stop people's hearts political people can't figure out and this is common knowledge i think common knowledge among editorials i saw research is conspiracy people get together and it is not mystical and so i've offered some of the articles and who you have and verified years those things are going on in the city and throughout the country but specific the tenderloin they can

stop a heart and do so many things and on the other hand, want to have those defibrillators so is it like you'll pick and choose who you'll resuscitate and regarding the tenderloin it speaks about the association of those programs with the san francisco police department so i'm hoping since i gave one to the chief he'll address that one the department and make much needed changes within i'll read one sentence. >> it says the give everybody the same amount of time you can provide the material to the competitor. >> i understand. >> (inaudible). >> i have to follow the rules there will be other opportunities to speak thank you, sir i appreciate it >> next speaker. >> any other comment on this matter?

>> good evening and welcome. >> let's be clear those defibrillators are an accessory to tasers no other way to look at it the facts their ordered the tasers are a lethal instrument people can kill and get killed for them for there's no way that the police can knows whether a person is sensitive to having their hearts stopped and by them i speak the feelingly of this having gone through triple bypass any kind of things are substantial to them your own documents say that this is the case it is shameful shameful your even talking about trying to sugar coat tasers with

those defibrillators. >> okay. any future public comment on the request to accept those donation yes, sir. >> tom in the defibrillators are in the purpose of resuscitate tat someone i'll recommend we don't get them i don't really agree with the tasers i think we need to back away from shooting people with anything or the. >> (clapping.) >> if we want to - resuscitate via a health unit then we should have the health units out on the street with the

the defibrillators for heart conditions. >> any further public comment on this matter come on up. >> again? the acceptance of defibrillators. >> i understand excuse me. regarding the defibrillators first of all, i believe that is petra dejoe's while the other gentleman was talking you were talking with this other person i think that is rude you're speaking to something else when someone is talking okay. >> just a comment i noticed that you were speaking through the entire speech that's rude we want your attendance when our speaking as a former flight attendant defibrillators assist

people are in having a heart problem and from the documentation is donation is for the sake of health purposes they'll be there they're in public places and seemed to be required in public buildings and i noticed them almost everywhere i go they're in airports, they're located almost throughout the city so why would we just happen to need a donation at the same time that we have on the agenda potential possibility of entertaining tasers the timing is uncanny and uncanny the very first item on the agenda therefore people could all be present just something i noticed and

brought to my attention adding up the few things. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening and welcome. >> and welcome congratulations chief condolences i'm not sure if you look at this audience behind us people have a visual dnr written across their foreheads and so had you had accept this gift i predicament you will i hope you'll condition that patient who need defibldz resuscitation are included with the police officers a police have causes the problem and this equipment will do no good racist mentality

that determines how the police support each other when they do something wrong think of the dnr on some of the faces we encounter our police department and when you do it with training conditions some cultural conditions some conditions with equal opportunities and equal fairness in the application of these it is rampant throughout the medical response industry that people of color get slower responses and less critical care and you're going to put this in the hands of amateurs not health care professionals. >> any future public comment on this matter hearing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, any questions. >> last public comment come on

up. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> hello my name is tom i'm an emergency medical technician thomas a. swift's electric rifle give out 50 thousand volt shock by ad e give out a 15 thousand i find that difficult an a e d saves someone from a high voltage shock from my perspective that is not right i don't have much more to say i might give more when you talk about the tasers. >> public comment is closed. and any questions colleagues commissioner dejesus. >> i noticed the last time it was $10,000 so for the tasers.

>> they're not tasers their adds. >> so i spoke but it is the paragraph the same company that ordered this in the past was save on securities and i guess the question how many a e ds 0 do we have in the patrol cars and the safety no longer has the ability to continue the program with the assistance with the chief to continue to raise funds to get a e d in patrol cars i want to see who is raising funds i got the expression it from the family trust but people are raising funds to get a e d i want to know about the purpose of this foundation and how much

money have they raised and how many addieds and we have talk at the tasers is the weapon we want to include for support i will say that we try to get more information before we approve that. >> this is the from the police chief deputy chief chaplain more information. >> i'll try to get the numbers i don't have them but definitely get the numbers for this program. >> all right. thank you. >> i ask i move we postpone this if the consent calendar. >> you can't postpone that may go though the motion for decides to postpone it. >> there is a motion and a

second sergeant who made the motion. >> commissioner mazzuco would you like to withdraw your vote. >> be postponed until we get more. >> we should precede with the vote because those are a donation and i can see why people are making the length to the tasers because of what we're doing offender use of force by from meaning has nothing to do with with the initial gift from the foundation was because their son died of a heart take on ocean beach before entering the fire academy they raised money to pay for those and the folks feel this is in the patrol cars the police officers are the first reading can help that's my understanding i think that is a

good idea the more devices we have in patrol cars the better it is. >> commissioner wong. >> i have a question i remember there was one other donation have there been previous documents does it go back if time i'm asking the commissioners. >> the owner of john's grill depended on devices as walgreens in the tenderloin they respond to more kaufk than any other district these were depended on i'm not sure about the numbers we do not those. >> so there is a motion and a second on the floor we'll precede. > all in favor, say i. > opposed? >> i. >> so that item passes 5 to two sergeant, next line item. >> item 2 public comment the public is welcome to address the

commission regarding the items not on tonight agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission please direct your questions to the commission as a whole department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. the commissioners, occi, nor the police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. 2 minutes. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> my name is herbert wiener i'm a civilian i welcome the new police chief i have a suggestion i think everyone in the room agrees on i want to see a resounding violation of law the police units as it existed 50 years ago under the commands of nancy it was fantastic work a seat to

the community and asset others police force and everyone bend as a civilian i have some suggestions on how the practitioners could be carried out this from an outsider i'm e i'd like to to see a person from the person stations in each stations in each district and to there will be a core of police community officers at the police station itself that can be dloiptd in time of concern and those are the two suggestion i have and hope their conducive i want to see a resounding environmental it shouldn't have been suspended i think the problems the police department has can be au leftdz thank you. >> thank you. next speaker.

welcome back. >> thank you so the greatest trick the devil pulled was to convince people he didn't exist but look at 24 country take a look at the city take into account this room those who seek to save their lives shall losses them and love one another was not a request the same people that are causing all this trouble on the streets that is why the young people are here with signs are the same people causing problems for law enforcement and just because you don't thinks where it comes from doesn't mean it's not true the one percentages they spend tremendous amounts of money i did my best to outline and glad to share the one percentageers

are bankers and their minions can only handle for young people like this to understand what even law enforcement didn't fully understand and get together against them the system is thoroughly corrupted we're under marshall law >> (clapping.) >> and how many times has the media going to show us the beautiful blonde girl 10 pictures to push on agenda by the feds to take guns uaw from veterans and law enforcement i don't see paulette brown son on the tv what's going on and the fetsdz are the one that encourage and encourage illegal immigration and point their fingers other local cops they

this includes setting up prer0i7b8gd scenarios with law enforcement guns stolen from government cars wake up we need - >> thank you thank you, sir thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir. >> (inaudible). >> next speaker >> next speaker good evening thank you, sir ingress and i bring you a message from the halfway from the aclu war invited as stakeholders of concern they're not able to i want to insure they can hear public comment i--i don't know if sergeant killshaw room along the walls

or. >> sergeant killshaw do question are an overtime i'm the messenger make sure they know you're here and ready to speak i want to thank acting deputy chief chaplain you didn't have to volunteer or take this job i sure that is a perm says to you and your family and wanted to address this appointment and concern the practice the department has used no holding town hall meetings it is temporary suspended out of the concern those meetings have been i don't know disruptive and counterproductive we looked and not backwards in the department looks at backwards and not

transparency that's not a good sign we need 0 more transparency and it is important to recognize the 21st century task force they recommended in fact, the department is doing it those sorts of town hall meetings they recommend in a neutral manner i'm suggest the problem with the members of the committee are mostly not knoll the information is selective and something inadequate and there could be a commitment to neutrality those have important peerdz for transparency sake and needs something the city as promised and the mayor out on the website i urge you to embrace transparency in this moment thank you . >> (clapping.) >> >> next speaker. >> oh, there's an overflow room and i think the gentleman

made it in. >> welcome. >> my name is magic good evening i was at the last police commission and as a mothered and grandmother i was deeply disturbed and glad to see the police go out into the community and known and connected when a young girdle was used as a palm she made a speech preshl suzy loftus and gave praise to chief suhr fine but we've heard complaints from the communities but don't worry chief suhr we have your back she didn't know what that means she didn't know complaints are from families that lost their children and don't need to know that they can't be allowed to be

pawns in a political game the next day jessica we've got a long ways to go was killed and what detailed those children how they felt over something they were meant to support when they were used voices and next a 13-year-old boy was given an award for running after a purse snatcher and tangibly him in chinatown a reward that captain lazarus said he stopped a violent criminal our young are go appreciated because of doctoring but not their job 0 apprehended folks by the way, if a latino or black child running in a neighborhood she could have been shot in the back assuming they were the criminals. >> (clapping.) >> you'll be going to grammar school in two weeks i'm going to

make sure our children have not pawns in this game i'm appalled and hurt - >> thank you. next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> good evening commissioner commissioner president loftus and director joyce hicks and intern deputy chief chaplain welcome and congratulations and thank you for your service to our crisis e criticized i was at the presidio and trying to get to i have a point i don't have enough time first of all, reform that is the first one the new chief is saying the first reform it is coupling but one of the reforms and the third reform i heard you say reform plenty of other reforms that can be done this is not enough thank you secondly, i want to thank the commission especially

commissioner fewer is not not easy i don't know what you did but willie brown and supervisor wiener were telling the mayor to keep chief suhr someone should to be it in room to do the right thing thank you if you did anything to get a new chief with district i will use that phrase i'll not yell we need a chief with unpeachable dignity the former chief was tenanted and had a lot of charm but despite thai education and years and training he didn't sutsd i guess as carefully he lacked ethics i have 36 seconds they should be in front of you the - patricia was the person that was responsible for going public

with charles lindbergh in 2015 and turn out that chief suhr was in his last dying days to protect and punish people coming forgettable with the truth and at the highest level of reform, and, secondly, another article about nicholas buckley one of the persons that did me wrong a corrupt officer and chief. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening and welcome. >> and i need to have something understood the reason for tasers being introduced by chief suhr was the cause of mario woods being shot i said an office they have tasers that mario woods would be still alive and that does that make sense and does that make sense now 7 officers are 7 tasers they all

shot mario woods at the same time it i don't think the guy would still be alive this is something that chief suhr introduced why are we still talking about tasers he's no longer here this is the new sheriff what we have a new topic that was goth then and does that make sense can we change and let the tasers go thank you. >> thank you, sir this is general public comment so items not on the agenda come on up, sir. >> good evening and welcome. >> commissioners and chief welcome to the task i am here today i don't want to make a long statement i'd given to you an example of what i'm

concerned with as you can see the introduction of myself i spent 10 years in the department i left as a few inspector and it hurts media it hurts me to hear the words to read the words and see the actions this department is engaged in at this time so my reason for being here i'd like in some way to be a support to the department and in my years as a police inspector i was in the intelligence unit wound up it in the police academy and i was picked by chief scott and captain to engage in two issues that are very similar to where

we are in crisis today my job was to emilio rat is and when harvey milk was supervisor i was asked to help people to feel less intrament towards gay people and asked by those same persons to assist with dpz a new police examine had the police association had an entry-level driemgs i embryoi don't know when my time ends but evidence of success how you've been successf

successful. >> thank you. we have your materials. >> thank you. >> thank you so much, sir. >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> the gentleman with the why do we have to discuss this again, we see contract and go down and chief suhr round 5 with the same arguments behind it will your son be alive if i was tasers no, he would have been burned to death and people are exploding their - that's enough got two tasers and san francisco we intend to keep is that quasi

okay. and also part of may was to welcome intern chief chaplain to your team, however, the communities is not losing it's critical thinking deputy chief chaplain i'm not to argue with you has there a conditioned social skills a well police but let's remember an emergency damage control measure that if something happens we have got an asian lesbian chief of color and high rank black chief that's good but let's remember you that wear high-level - let's remember you're probably involved along with dennis herrera for putting the name of

mario woods on the existing of the junction so the public is watching he hope they'll exaggerate you but they're watching. >> thank you. next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> i'd like to talk about the right disruption at the commission meetings are the commissioner really surprised because i'm not from the commission is not responsive to the will of the people then you, expect what has transpired i know the commission has specific police work that has to be attended to i also know that for a couple of years it there's been police killings of people that pose no treat to the cops and there's been inadequate or no investigations at all

a crisis has existed the people are demanded accountability and not been heard but how can there be accountability in a system that is the custodial mass of one and 60 years for the existence of the sfpd there is not an independent body that investigates the police killings yet created instead of approximately the police have investigated themselves one hundred and 67 years the police still investigation themselves how can a police commission have the definition to oars the concerns of the residents of sf we know the seats on the commissions are stepping stones for higher office seeking those

seated will be less inclined to refusal the features to further their boogsz we're concerned about the accountability in terms of investigations and indictments we also need to be concerned about the accountability of the police commission that has a severe conflict of interest. >> thank you future general public comment. >> (clapping.) >> welcome back. >> good evening and welcome. >> tom we need an exam team and the bluecoat and the police to be part of justice of our communities and need them to be mental health guardian too. >> we have a mess on the streets you have a major responsibility and the city has

a responsibility to get the police living back in our city again or the goal of our police should be able to retire after 20 years never having pulled their gun and not firing a bullet 50 percent less guns on the street maybe every two man policing one not wearing a belt that person will feel i don't want to get myself in danger we want them to retire not pulling a gun we need to reduce the militancy we need the attend to vet that never pulled a gun to write new policy we need new procedures we want examship teams and examship city i heard the tv that have

bit about some guys get it and should some can be trained and hold out hopes thank you. >> any further general public comment coupling up. >> good evening commissioners for some of you it's been a while since you've seen me i had a stroke in may or 2015 and open had a right surgery on may 2015 and returned to the please be advised the ringing of and use of cell phones, where i'm living on june 12th of 2015 i have been recuperating and thinking about you and had a lot of time to reflect on the

difficult job that the police officers have, the defended job that the police commissioner have in evaluateing those policies on the part of police officers frankly frankly you exhibit think incredible amount of patience i was a guidance counselor and i had a lot more to do with how my council people conducted themselves without oversight because i was able to police myself when it comes to police training i believe that the police officers need to be trained in how to police

themselves i don't want police officers with the attitude of my ex-husband when we were going to the shopping mall to get a dress for me to wear for the birth of our first son i you is saw he was going the wrong way in the parking lot he said nobody here to stop me i said you need to stop yourselves. >> any, any further general public comment welcome back mr. miller. >> terry miller with the police project and represent of san francisco to the board we the people accept no selection for the police chief that in go beyond a reasonable doubt and individuals and demands a public receive yum and in addition a legitimacy of this policy is not

happening by not having executive officer with the legitimate demand red cross by grocery store and mayor ed lee to push for any new weapons and here i'm referencing tasers without enforced forgot mechanisms tufrts are furthers this perspective we'll follow the careers of people by voting and block any further raising prirsz to the ac deputy chief chaplain we're not accepting of token in place if you wish enforcements by the people you'll reopen the officer-involved shootings killings and have the interpretation for all overlays in the killing of mario woods and (calling names) and remove officers from our communities immediately.

>> (clapping.) >> thank you any further general public comment? coming back general public comment welcome back >> commissioners you know i've been coming here for more years than most of you commissioners have been on this commission during public comment it is wrong when somebody starts to speak that they interrupt them and tried to get them to see what they want to say having said that, i'll say something we have deliberated and community policing a whole way of how to do community policing in san francisco this is san francisco and i was telling you i represent the first people of this area the muwekma ohlone so when we have some people that have some are on your police commission they should change

their ways you better change our ways there are people coming over here and telling you and their hostile but you have to find out why their hostile and must found out why our heart has to be in the right place to the commissioners can know have we done right just ask for the video on the pav past climaxed you can't due diligence stop being on the commission. >> (clapping.) >> and remember that are people like me in the trenches who want to do right even when we had the process and the people were starving and putting their lives on the line

people that trying to make sense you you'll didn't know what was happening behind the scenes this is san francisco do right and have your heart in the right place thank you very much . >> (clapping.) >> thank you >> next speaker. >> thank you, again i'll try for quick i've community by e-mail to some of you as you can see some points if we had a long time i'd like to have you consider the history of police say important someone said let's not look back we need to have the police departments that were slavery catchers and enforce's a great book it relates to this calls when the irish became white your that police department has many ethic

cultural why is that black police associations and lgbt association and asian police why? because there are tensions inside that department that need attention and recognize that how the irish became white they dominated the origin of the police department in the united states of america focused on black folks starting with catching slaveries we need that and talking about the training in the academy training stops at the academy poa currently rules once the doors close in the training academy now the killer sergeant role models a season sergeant that did the last killing do as i say not as i do that's what the sergeant was saying and

expands on the watch and learn a lesson lie in vietnam when soldiers stopped on the other hand, other soldiers from killing other civilians and the standards must be included annual fitness for duty evaluations and fitness clarifications for using weapons shouldn't have a gun on if you can't pass a psychological test. >> thank you, sir any - thank you. >> appreciate that any other general public comment? thank you >> good evening and welcome. >> how my name is darrell rogers a residence for 70 some years i was born and raised and one of the things that bothers

me about what's happening with the commission as well with the police officers in this town is that has longer as officers feel like they have no accountability to anyone but themselves they not going to change innovator how many changes you put in place that is not going to happen until accountability is the first action rather than the last action you'll not change anything by just changing the words and in which their supposed to be following that didn't happen and in fact, what is going on as for what i see is that every time police officers kill brown and black people in the city they get a vacation and paid vacation every time they kill brown and black in this city they get to coming back to work with no

accountability for the actions that they took i get to see for a period of time after the killing they get to have a nice desk job and get to sit behind a desk for a period of time rather than taking the actions in which their sweet spot to be doing this says no accountability nothing so no matter what you guys radio doing you're not forcing those overlays to be accountable and until in their accountable all i'm going to see more brown and black people killed only the streets of san francisco and that's a fact. >> no matter what you do there will be more brown and black people killed on the streets of this city until you make them. >> thank you.

>> (clapping.) >> is there any future general public comment >> good evening and welcome. >> commissioners why was chief greg suhr removed from office because was it to an attempt to build trust with the communities here you have tasers on your agenda what ever little steps to build the trust it so socializing lacking isle you'll losses this trust new approve tasers they're a weapon of escalation a lethal weapon many of the people in the room looking at a documentary called killing them safely in this documentary the producers went to great efforts to document how the founders of

company lied miss you may step down that weapon of torture and have sold it to numerous police department in the country it is a weapon of escalation your conditioned trgs of it tells the public you have no desire to deslate no deserve to follow all the rhetoric you've been putting forward for years to get the - i urge you to take it over the agenda and not approve tasers for this police department and look at the facts and the record those weapons kill people and that you are not facing that fact you're not letting the public know what a horror you'll be perpetrating on

us thank you. any further general public comment. >> (clapping.) >> general public comment good evening ms. brown. >> good evening, i'd like to use the overhead as usual i'm here concerning any aubrey abrakasa murdered august 14, 2006, shots thirtyments with a semiautomatic gun and to this day his case is not solved as the man said where is everybody when in any child was shot down none was around i'd like to have that support i i don't have i want my sons case solved to have closer i come here every wednesday to talk about my child

and let alone other young men that have been murdered with unsolved vase case in san francisco there are severalty unsolved cases and looking for those cases to be solved we hire the private investigators to come in and solve those cases i'm tired of getting told this will happen this will be 10 years since my son was murdered 10 years i've been coming down when some of you weren't up here i've been in several homicide investigators former gavin newsom said i know who killed our son the police know who killed our son with the exception no witnesses there are witnesses the witnesses because you have all the names of perpetrates that killed any son and yet they're walking the

street to kill again this is what i have left of my beautiful, beautiful 17 year-old boy that i'll never have again my only son i had to walk across the stages to representative his diploma i'll come down here for the representative of my life and none will tell me how to grove more in any child. >> thank you ms. brown. >> (clapping.) >> anyone watching at home if you or anyone you know has information has information with the aubrey abrakasa killing (415) 575-4444 a 200 and $50,000 reward any further general public comment good evening jeff adachi. >> i know the commission will be discussing a number of policies and is use of force tasers and the body cameras i

will urge to speak boldly and direct the policy make it clear and not compromise when it comes to policies that will make a difference because often if you strike a compromise at a position you're not going to see the change in cult i culture we need in san francisco i don't have time to go over the fine points but there are a lot of people in the individuals and groups that put in time you can see when the city has a policy i hope that is not forgotten and obviously when it comes to words like shall or should or minimal force or reasonable force has huge implications going forward

i want to clear that from the stand point of a public defender geoi don't support the use of tasers i want to mention is that there's been a recent report about the disproportion of use use of force with people of color i ask you to take to heart regarding the body worn cameras i think that the fact there is an agreement is a huge step forward but there are a lot of fine points that needs to be worked out with that but one thing that surprised me the now, one the proposals put forward today language that would essentially allow an officer to make a brief statement and have the - >> thank you public defender

jeff adachi any further general public comment. >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> hi, thank you i wanted to say a little bit about the body cameras for those in the audience unaware the police officers association reached an agreement with possible body camera policy the media reports body camera as soon as august i want to ask the commission to hopes o hold more details on the body camera but beyond and besides the question of when officials get to review the footage but the other for overlays killing people to trust the body cameras are suspicion to meet those goal is not realistic and if everyone keeps their minds, however, they may provide a small measure of help without the attention to the

details of the body worn camera they'll not increase the other or transparency and invade the citizens privacy and a drain on the budgets i don't really have time more preempted to talk about that in detail i hope some of the aclu stockholders can talk about that in the future but some aspects of this i'm concerned is the basic portfolio who will wear them and the overlays turn them off we have this footage of the video and - privacy there should be prohibition of bio metrics amongst other issues accountability we need a clear accountability in this system when cops don't follow the body camera policy and we need to do this in. >> what to address accident loopholes it allows for

discretion and cause the policy will not function in a meaningful way at all thank you. any further general public comment for items phone number not on the >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening and welcome commissioners director - oh, i can't building i'm doing this director joyce hicks how many times have i do think that to you generic e joyce and acting deputy chief chaplain and chief i look forward to your work on culture change considering our experience in the department being an african-american member of this department i look forward to your work in this area there has been so much going on in the last two weeks around the

police issues the public defender submit last week as an amazing meeting i also went to a meeting at uc medical center about the hunger strickers and the experience of doctors that helped them okay. >> an amazing presentation by doctor maria mississippi are i think is her name about police officer vision a public health issue what happened in the city in the last year is an issue that on my way here together i

get to hear and cbs from the poa wanting and said the poa is looking forward to the changes if the department but that the poa needs to agree having worked under as a police - >> thank you very much any further final general public comment come on up. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> >> as we see we have a new acting chief we have going to watch you like flies on stuff because we're not going to allow any more cover ups

even with captain saying that he was carrying a gun when he wasn't we'll watch the mainstream media closely as well not helping that cover up now the issue what those officials officers you want to supply them with the right tools those tools need to be mental tools in their head that they're capable ever assessing the situation because anyone what about carrying a knife and you can all there a lot about a cover saying that he was carving a gun when he wasn't like kenneth hardy not carrying a gun and one of those commissioners i'll

prove that to you and that's how they covered it up and utilized that's coming so i want to see changes in the city and see the officers charged thank you . >> (clapping.) >> >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> thank you i did have one other thing about the tasers i wanted to submit that perhaps you can consider the tasers might be actually can you see more damage because in the news today, it's on i believe the gentleman who didly reached for his real gun instead his tasers then we're confusing the issue i mean, i realized evident a

volunteer but it is happened numerous times and printout something with numerous cases officers puts their firearm instead of their tasers and it seems to me that every time on officer is on trial the accuse is oh, i was rushed and not thinking clearly i you know everything leads to the thinking and the quickness and at which they had to respond we're adding another weapon in the mix it can do more harm and also an accused to get out of killing someone if there were the case it adds more in the mix we've gotten mouths and voices and if their employed they can use is that wouldn't cost any modern e money and communicate with people better i believe

that will help a lot and the train on that will be a lot less inintensive and not require retrainin are - and if i might submit i didn't bring copies i was not prepared this is my first time appear here. >> okay. thank you. >> okay. any further general public comment? >> thank you. >> good evening hi welcome new chief. >> yes. >> good evening welcome new chief good evening san francisco communities i'm mother

i have copies of issues i'm trying to be quick to bring up everything at once about cameras i believe that tasers i hope you are familiar maybe you're not but i believe that my sons case made everybody convince it is not on this the issue of police officers camera it is also the issue of neighborhood camera because the cameras officers have been off and only because of the neighborhood camera we having the chance to have my son alive and we're having the chance to

prove what happened so it is actually not the issue to raise the issue of police officers having the camera on his chest and taping you are you having a chance to tape him when he is public health the camera who is watching him awhile he is doing at the moment if you remember the 2 book road it is called watchman so, now we are in a situation to develop the creation and set the watchman about the watchman. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> it's two minutes for everyone your time is up. >> thank you. >> i understand they'll be

another opportunity for public comment about tasers any more general public comment public comment on items not on anothers agendas. >> good evening and welcome. >> welcome back. >> so the people of san francisco had 4 opportunities to weigh in on tasers and they've said eventually four different times we don't want tasers so, now you're considering another times trying to ram it down our throats and there are nationally known experts on the legal aspects of tasers of the medical aspects of tasers, of the associate aspects of tasers your refusing to let them speak it their nationally known

experts what this says to me is that you the commission have notices legitimacy whosoever about being able to discuss this your determined to make that happen your surrounding the audience with crawling with cops and sheriff's and in order furbish make this decision without interrupted and no liquiditycy you don't deserve to exist. >> well. >> (clapping.) >> any further general public comment or end on that note >> good evening and welcome. >> my name is mary ann educators two years experience in education i want to take into consideration the effect that the violence it is happening

towards this citizens of the city by the hands of the police the effect on the children especially in the communities of color the children are frightened they're really frightened and that's something you have to take into consideration you know in the situation of alex 59 bullets is not considered extensive force that is unconscionable those officers need to be charged thank you. >> thank you . >> (clapping.) >> i'm sorry two minutes for each section i, invite you back i'm sorry ma'am. >> they'll be another opportunities so the city attorney is here i have to apply the rules to everyone i'll make sure there is another tuesday night for you to speak. >> a two minute times limit that's rules is set by the

sunshine ordnance and little brown act i'll let you you know what there is another time to comment thank you for understanding>> good evening and welcome. >> >> good evening. i'm the co-president of the young latino democrats i came here in opposition for the tasers for the san francisco police department give you a little bit of background i was a graduated with the police academy and fresno graduated at the top of my class and i threw my experience was able to do the tasers training and when i did the tasers training - sorry when i can is through any experience is that it is a house can i explain that note - pertaining to real life

scenarios you know it is more have a right do it as a right of passage people that are holding you down you get tasered and fall to a matted ground that is safe people are watching you and with you and laughing with at you whether you can take it like a man that type of thing when i think about how the training is trivial listing the unpunt of brown and black people i can't stand that there is not enough emphasis to really i guess to really show folks that - i'm sorry trial struggling i don't know why

i mean, i guess i'll say that's not right and not enough training and not okay thank you . >> (clapping.) >> thank you. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> good evening i want to speak in regards to my son ms. short in 2000 still an unsolved murder what that back and forth with the district attorney and the police department back in 2000 that was then they said the homicide the district attorney's office said that the police department was not given them the information and the police department said we give them the guns from the homicide of your son but did nothing when was when hal was in office the reason they didn't do anything the fingertips westbound robert mcmills the

police officer in san francisco so back and forth and did absolutely nothing until they transferred to robert making million - i want to piggyback on any sons murder he had a 4-year-old son lost his mom the year before, no closer or closer now 21 but still has to live with no closer who happened in his life that causes confusion and difficulty for him to foundation looter in life it is trying to solve the homicides make that easier on the children that be coming up in the future to keep with life and you know general so - i just wanted to say i can say many police chief

capital plan chaplain tried and he was one person fighting against a lot of people to get my sons case solved thank you. >> thank you. >> (clapping.) >> i think chief chaplain have someone foul. >> this is general public comment on items not on the agendas any further general public comment. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> any further general public comment seeing none, justifiable homicides. >> there were people in the hallway wanting to give public comment. >> we have to give them a chance. >> we can't bring more people in than the sheriff's will allow us hello we're still on general

public comment if we can find folks that want to do general public comment in the line we can swop but. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening a friend of mine spoke earlier about the police commissions and actually, two of the - police stepping stones and you know that's been a reality you know, i know that all of you are here to do a good job but that's a reality in politics for a long time i want to make you aware the current modification the mayor is a thirty percent approval rate and that's for a lot of reasons one is the police issues and want to make you aware that there are a group of us who mounted a recall the campaign will be serious that may have some serious political

implications for anybody that is considering you know moving forward you want to make sure you're on the right team if in the case so putting you on notice that is happening and you'll be hearing about that in the near future thank you . >> (clapping.) >> any further general public comment come on up. >> oh, hello, sir. >> good evening and welcome. >> i present you having a black face here representing our police force and i pointed out at him and said him and thankful that you got a man because i know what it is to be around paddies and oklahoma he's an from oklahoma i lived there i make him smile he's a brother and good people there. >> i spoke of a tornado that

ravaged nothing and bigger than any other tornado and would make people not racist anywhere he plead to god again and he thank him for what he does for me here today san francisco police force had to take me out of the zoo i'm more afraid of a guerilla and i want to shake his hand not that little low lands but the little one the little kid was scared not scared the guerilla he was having fun we all have to be more scared of things here on earth and i thank you for being around you you know when san francisco

policeman went by the cage i was laid outs on the ground and every time that car went up and down he ran for the car nothing in between him and us that is in between us and him, i thank you for because i this where i see today and he can where he is with each of you he loves i thank you for this day. >> thank you. any other further general public comment. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> >> good evening. i'm here to speak begins the tasers i saw the movie killing them silent last night at the theatre, i.e., was visibly shaken and horrified they're using tasers on people and in the hands of police and not only that the movie tends state there are 5 hundreds

deaths contributed to tasers used by the police officer so i have being concerns i don't want tasers in san francisco and thank for the commissioner that are against the commissioner and hopefully the other commissioners will take a look at joe marshall and victor waning we voided e voted you in we're hoping you will look at we need to live we don't want police officer having tasers or lethal weapons not in san francisco thank you. >> thank you. any further general public comment. >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening, commissioners and thank you for having me. and welcome to our new intern chief i'm tammy everything else in the western edition and grandmother i want to speak on the tasers irk i'm very, very

opposed to tasers their largest and dangers and the deesclation going on we need the deesclation you have is to use use not a battleground we're not invading another country those are citizens we come as citizens he oppose that i wanted to mention i've been here before and talk about how fearful to call the police officer last night i was walking home and saw a person with the police and i called the emergency team they wouldn't take the call i'm scared is call 9-1-1 i don't want to help someone get off did medium on van ness that is dangerous to have our arms sticking out obviously not in his right mind

can come to something don't approve tasers their lethal and dangerous we need deesclation and learn to work with people. >> thank you, ms. bryant . >> (clapping.) >> me further general public comment on items not on the general public comment any further general public comment? >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> >> good evening suzy i was one the people in first could 5 that a lot of people thank you people overlooked i'm here to say a few things my first slogan is make it happen chapman you know what i mean you seen the people power and deny some of the supervisors saying we've not done nothing and joe marshall

what look away. >> i'm warning. >> certain changes make it happen jack we can't get in here and talk that's not rights not community involvement if you want to gain the trust from the community and not no more meetings with 4 people representing the communities we need the students and peers 3 grew up in san francisco if so significant a lot of us are born and raised and make sure that things happen that's a part of make it happen chapman he know that is a new thing but the same people new man you've been here 26 years and not said anything that is a sense of like not speaking up when you're not speaking up enjustice is going on and corruption in the sfpd and hopefully changes but

transformation you know what i'm talking about. >> next speaker . >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> also one of the hungry strickers and part of the part of a lot of the police reform work going on and the bar association task force and some of the members that are on the turn off all electronic devices on this commission we shouldn't allow tasers to be operating in the city and county of san francisco one proven to be lethal t you can be a 29-year-old healthy like myself die from cardiac arrest from being tasered and two studies have been proven? from a report i

know the bar association has voted to not implement tasers this is a big vote disproportion use of tasers on brown and black people across the country and so i don't want to allow a police department to have an extra tool to disproportionately harm people of color we need to focus on the deesclation practices to focus on this practices that will not harm or cause injury to the people your approaching or arresting so to suggest we need tasers to be part of the defendant circulation before we implement in the general orders of demraigs circulation shows we've not exhausted all the possibility and have to work

through those practices and have to have the training and the mayor is committed $4 million to the police department i think that is sufficient enough to actually have non-lethal deesclation practices didn't include tasers. >> thank you. >> >> (clapping.) >> thank you, sir. >> they'll be - an opportunity for public comment on the tasers when we come to to that any further general public comment general public comment on items not on the agendas come on up. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> good evening. >> directly to our intern chief i think you sent a message to the public by canceling

tinseltown meetings after someone was murdered you said their unproductive keep in mind what kind of message to the public whether or not you feel their productive or not i mean to speak to the public and let them have a chance to speak to have a public statement in regards to wasn't is going on with the public has always wptd to have more cycle with the department and the form chief and not having town hall meetings when someone is murdered is a step backwards and reforms and training you can't train somebody not to be racist you can't train someone not to be a bigot you can't train personal

issues out of somebody the hiring process needs to be reformed and i want to see which one you have has the balls to stand up to the poa and the peace officers bill of rights this is what gives the impunity and power to the system you know and we know that and we're going to fight that . >> (clapping.) >> okay are other general public comment is still general public comment come on up, sir. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. >> >> i guess i want to start with malcolm x and richard provider talked about black police officers how they're more violate to prove in their part

of 24 system now we have a black police officer chief i want to keep in mind if anything we need to hold the feet to the fire if anything i just very distrust full from all the violence from the police department and want to say the black alleged leadership you went to they don't represent the black people or the communities, the naacp this black community form of if anything they represent how much money they can stick in their pockets so figure out where the black community and i'll speak with them. >> all right. my question did this ofrlsz who killed jessica williams, she was pregnant those other weapons you're not supposed to be

shooting pregnant people but people in the front you're basically supposed to shoot them in the back we need to keep in mind and not the weapons it is not the weapons that are the problem is the information that those officers have those whites sub premise - and the meetings are closed-captioned, so it is important for everyone to speak directly into the microphones at the podium. in the 8 percent of holding officers accountability this is more like a racketeering scheme than holding officers accountable >> thank you. any further general public comment >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening, commissioners

i had public comment but give my time to edmond. >> unfortunately, we have to give 2 minutes for each person. >> really quickly i'll briefly is that the police and the city and this commission has lost the trust of people because we have not seen a sign of accountability and lastly go i'm here to say an, an advocate against the use of tasers i invite you when you make our decision to please look at the scientific data not there this manufacturer but everyone else. >> any further general public comment there's going to be further general public comment after each item but general public comment. >> two minutes per person that's the rules so thank you any further general public comment hoondz and sergeant, next line item. >> >> item 3 reports to the commission discussion 3 a commissioner president report

and introduction of acting police chief tony chapman with the permanent chief and report only who have on the one or two patrol officer with the doj's and the cops office commissioners report. >> colleagues we've not we've been dark the last friday we didn't meet and you'll things happened we have not compound since the change in police chief as you may know may 19th chief suhr recess signed and acting chief i'd like to introduce acting deputy chief chaplain to you in a moment but first, i'd like to is this that such a suddenly shift in leadership can be jagger jarring i want to thank greg suhr for his leadership in challenging times he recognized we have an

opportunity to make real change and not able to finish the items on the agendas we have a chance to roll up our sleeves and chief suhr said it is critical we work to build and rebuild the relationships that suffered over the past many months and someone is chief chaplain give you a little bit of background chief chaplain joined sfpd in 1990 as a parole officer in the central in the taraval and at lieutenant at the station as a day watcher commander a police officer and in charge costs and promoted in 2000 one and promoted to sergeant in 2005 and then selected to be the head of

homicide in 2014 and joined the expanded staff as the commander of versions in 2016 promoted to the new bureau of the professional standards and privileged policing bureau to oversee the collaborative reform with the united states department of justice that's his recent assignment before the acting chief please help me welcome colleagues, any questions. >> (clapping.) >> chief he know you'll give you your report later on but anything you want to say you're welcome to make remarks. >> no, just some of the folks i've worked with before pursue one of them on a subcommittee and i've got a doesn't the to the city and county of san francisco to the people we serve, sir robld peel said the people are the police and the police are the people those are

some of the things i've heard and plan on addressing some of the things some are out of my realm but i promise you i'll do the best to address them i work for you, you are the people so i'm doing the people's work. >> go back. >> the next item a report on the creation of a subcommittee to manage for a permanent chief many addresses by charter they're charged with providing the mayor to choose the chief i created a personal subcommittee consisting of commissioner mazzuco sea commissioner melara and myself the process will go like this with the dhr to conduct a national search and invite internal and external

candidates to employ within the department and across the country and proposals are submitted to the dhr and the by the has met and forming a process for february on the qualities we're looking for in our next chief that is critical we mare from many voices from across the city to bring forgot candidates that reflects the deserves of the entire city we'll announce in the coming weeks with updates and commissioner mazzuco and commissioner turman for your willingness to serve anything you want to say. >> no. >> no okay commissioner mazzuco. >> i'd like to get abdomen more information about the subcommittee i mean even though you're the president what action has been taken as a collective decision or commitment by the majority of members the

commission and we exercise our power as a body and i have sat on two searchers for that police chief and we've not had a subcommittee doing the worker we've done it together i this is the first time i've heard about it the basis of a question subcommittee and exactly what the subcommittee is good evening to entail and the other members of the commissions involved with a commitment candidates we sat down and went through the candidates and is the subcommittee going to side that that will exclude the other commissioners and go back and look at the charter i don't think this particular item is really right for a subcommittee but a vote from the commission whether or not to participate. >> (clapping.) >> and to what extent we'll do

that. >> so thank you compacts. >> as you may know the rules of commission were adopted in 2005 gives the president the ability to form 0 subcommittee and identify who members are serve likewise you served on the use of force subcommittee we're endeavoring do do a number of larger body cameras to searching for a new chief a significant amount of work that that goes with that i'm committed to suhr the process allows for full participation from commissioners there are certain aspects of decisions that can be made by use of subcommittee as you may know from the use of force process so i'm i know that commissioner mazzuco has participated in the past and you've participated in the past what my commitment we'll take the lessons and process that worked well in the commissioners has the time to go to the

application inform desire to include the commissioners commissioner mazzuco. >> dr. marshall. >> you didn't answer my question what is entailed the subcommittee g will do and report back to the full commissioner. >> i'll be happy to answer that the details the first item deciding iuoe on a process probation officer identify the recruiting firm we'll get the information and bring that back to the commission there are decisions the subcommittee will make we'll come back to the full commission. >> commissioner mazzuco. >> with two chiefs i want to thank the commissioners to to my left is and to my right is for stepping up both the subcommittee i'm confident we'll be involved as in the past and worked with subcommittees on various things so commissioner president loftus thank you you

picked two great people in implementing those so god speed and let's get it done thank you. >> commissioner mazzuco. >> with references to the subcommittee just to be clear to the public i've been through two of the searchers that is worked in the past you pick a search firm and with internal and external we get a binder of every person that applies in closed session the entire commission goes through every applicant and meets the criteria that's what we do criteria is you know a level of education a level of expand we received the applications from people that were in charge of a police department with 10 officers we want to have someone that expanded a large organization so retirements as long as the

commission is doing the the subcommittee we go through each one and decided who gets an interview the commissioners get a say the people know that the commissioners are working with you and commissioner president loftus will tell you we do community outreach and community meetings you can tell us way you're looking for in a chief and having done this twice it is beneficial we reach out to rank and file a long process and involved one that involves the entire commissions trust me we'll be involved in determining the qualifications and resumes all that with our input i'm a correct commissioner wong i'm torn we have a lot of work we need the efficiency if i'm

hearing you'll handle the background with the full commission to make the criteria and the search for that the next chief and review the applications that makes me feel more confident things are decided and done brother this commission meeting it appears on the agendas and get calls from the public well, what is it the subcommittee that is happening or you know how come the commission has sent a letter i got that supervisors called me and said why did the commissioners send this letter i've not seen that letter that is what concerns me because i don't know what went on between the meetings i appreciate the efficiency aspect we can't wait until a commission meeting but concerned it seems to me to be happening a lot i don't know about the commission meetings. >> commissioner mazzuco. >> right so i think i agreed to a process and agree that earlier

that we would send out the craft for the subcommittee without knowing what is the use of force now the tasers i never agreed i want to know the process before i agree to it or i bring that up to the city attorney whether or not this is fair. >> (clapping.) >> i need to know i mean - one thing about making executive decisions on the agendas this is like this is the whole body not one executive director and i hear commissioner mazzuco saying offering he's assume we'll be part of this i don't hear that i hear you send outliers i don't know from the commissioners will be meeting with the community members and in the applicant i don't know from the entire commission will review which recruitment process the 3 people your selected have never done in we have issues with some of the groups that have helped us select a chief before none has

experience with those issues that we need to raise we should raise bra put them in the process to be o to be voted on i want to know exactly what is going on and i don't agree with the executive decisions. >> okay. >> (clapping.) >> thank you so i'm happy to address a couple of those concerns as we noted we were dark last week this is the first that we are able to update on this process and so i appreciate that the concern that you raised commissioner mazzuco and so i think what we can do gordon's thorough regular updates on what happened i can speak to there are bruno heights issues admonish 3 commissioners do anything so in the interest of beginning the process for an

national search the form was reviewed with commissioner melara and commissioner turman and we were all comfort moving forward that no decision was made but the notification for proposals was put out there in the publics interest but i certain can assure everybody that the limousine of this subcommittee is mark farrell to assist the commission in a very important job not to take away the decision from anyone i don't know if sxherm or commissioner melara want to add anything. >> we've dealt with the brown act so i don't think that is a problem. >> but the only letters going forward have to recognize recruiters from the city to the city and county of san francisco and it is asking them for proposals to begin the search process so no major decision has

been made no decision will be made without the full committees input the purpose of the selection committee to harvest information, categorize and raise it and bring it back to the commission to review it that's what the role of this subcommittee is commissioner melara. >> just for your information commissioner dejesus i work for the city for many years i know that the h.r. progress i'm condominium to following the criteria this commission established to select at next chief so i'm assuming the criteria will be development before we go forward and deciding who that person is going to be so rest assure i have a little information under

my belt i know what i'm doing. >> i'm not criticizing this commission acts as a body and as sitting on two other searchers we've felt it our duty and responsibility to participate fully in the selection of a chiefs this is an executive decision and there's ways we can decide but informed and concerned i don't want to agree to any proposal if i don't know the details of the proposal. >> i think i agree with you completely i think that the issue is we have so many things on the table right now than being able to work and being able to excuse me. being able to work through subcommittees really makes it a lot more efficient and nothing

it decided unless it's brought before the commission we're only doing the background work. >> that's with the individuals are interviewed and individuals will be called back for interviews a discussion of kwchgs all of that. >> i don't understand you said that everyone will be interviewed by the subcommittee or the few commission. >> make that clear. >> i'm really disappointed the way it is going forward. >> (multiple voices). >> there are processes to be put in place to move forward. >> commissioner marshall. >> my only frame of reference the way we've done in the past we've been included in the process and the purpose before i have no doubt we will again. >> i don't know that - and i want to stay on top of it and xhulth the city attorney it is

not appropriate. >> i'll continue on the white house meeting with jack from the principle policing bureau participated in the department of justice collaborative reform team working in san francisco to attend the meeting and white house with the president 21st century go report and diverse and credible group of police departments came together in prostitute of prelims from that report it was critical thank you, chief chapman lane that sfpd joined in the national community practice and moving through the issues across the country and looking forward to hear from captain hart and that that concluded my report. colleagues, any reports from any individuals commissioners. >> yeah. >> this is a a commission reports i wanted to report i did those two tuesday to that movie

and saw the tasers killing. >> (clapping.) >> there are so many aspects everyone on the commission go is ones here we think we know everything we don't i've sat through two commission meetings the film was instructive and history regarding tasers not only do you hear that but visually see it for us that are visual learners that was a good explanation of progress and i thought that was a film done well and obviously and focused on go not only tasers not only the leg litigation and the exposure that the liability exposure that puts our officers up for they drank the cool aid and told that was killing people and tasers turned on them they don't call is warnings but go recommendations

like cities in the dark that don't protect them and officers saying they have indeed they're putting people's lives in jeopardy they get rid of the cases an educational experience i think this commission niece to see the film and sat through the expert witnesses and any visual aids or read any of the studies or fully understand the studies one thing the film was clear about is doubt and lightened tasers to the tobacco industry for 40 or 50 years cigarettes don't cause cancer and didn't show that was causing cancer but funding the studies they cigarettes cause cancer they

were phil doubt and it continues to fund people that didn't capture the heart and didn't kill people and create things but didn't do that on the other hand, everything that the independent experts say they can't shoots the face or chest not a practical weapon and tasers leaves the officers open to liability many of those that was a great film i also went to the justice the public defenders justice i forgot what it is called the justice submit and it is on tv you need to see that tasers were there and talked about tasers international talking about both sides of their mouth people will die anyway and that's misused that's the communities problems on the other hand, they're it so

they're not responsible for the liability and trying to say that officers kauntd use their weapons in the way their seeing it in the public you need to see it, it is on netflix i would like to invite consider to sims to come in and talk about his independents testing that shows tasers captures the heart and a lethal weapon that is used in a manner that is intended to be used but also i believe in his study if i recollect shooting after tasers were introduced i think our new commissioners understand or know that i'd like to have him not to exceed to speak on june 8th and that's what i'd like to do put on the agenda and

recommend you see in this movie it is obviously and it was not one-sided. >> thank you commissioner mazzuco commissioner wong . >> (clapping.) >> before last commissioner meeting with the symposium and capacities 3 had side folks in attendance he mentioned the tenants are skshdz with safety issues and housing developments in particular in reference to a 74-year-old woman was assaulted by a younger man and captain lazarus they raised security improvements concerns and thrilled to captain lazarus the chief will have a chance to address i attended the public defenders symposium the speaker was excellent speaker i thought in general there was a

police practices exert that testified or cross police station by jeff adachi gave a good commentary mr. williams said one thing the san francisco police department didn't have deesclation practices in place i believe any place not part of use of force two separate policies in place but in general a good symposium and watched the killing of safety on netflix can't say it changed my position i previously stayed i don't believe that tasers are rights for the department right now and finally i attended yesterday and session by the lower polk neighborhood association th the

ofrls /* officials spoke. >> thank you, chief important allowing me specifically talk about them i'm on the communities those are recruits are reed to hit the streets one thing i wanted to talk about is the concept of language the language that he use we know we've had a lot of issues around homelessness he minded them fingerprinting two issues i wanted them to know that that language is putting them in front of the commission so i want to talk about that i was not there to threaten them but that is possible. >> i wanted to go deeper and just not talk about the concept of the offensive but i use the

disruption language uses and wanted them to get this this is not words i don't use but their destructive a concept i introduced to them maybe i'm not surprised we heard it was well received and asked for more more so i appreciate them sitting and listening to me they've been there a lot of things i went around the room i ask that that make sense what i understand but i wanted them to make them aware not only using those words on the streets and in the public but also not to user words at all when happening in the private text away from work they're sitting what is happening so it was i mean really good great i hope to do

more i think they actually asked to do more one of the things i hope you'll extend though the veteran officers thank you and men i think you've heard things about that i appreciate that very much. >> thank you commissioner marshall and commissioner mazzuco. >> i attended a panel along with commissioner president loftus and commissioner vice president turman a group of judges and catholic lawyers with policing and asked great questions and thank you for the commissioners for the presentation appellant court judges and a good crowd of attorneys that asked are hard questions not an issue we only see in the room many people are talking about it was a very productive and received from the

dean of u.s. law school and thanking us we'll be visiting the law school soon to thank you. >> anything further commissioners sergeant, next line item. >> item 3 b chiefs report to allow the police chief to reports on recent police department activities and update from the professional standards bureau. >> good evening achieve a you, you we were dark last but a shooting at taylor in central no arrests at 10:05 p.m. and two victims one a 14-year-old and the other a 19-year-old the second shootings on the 23 in the inigleside district 15 block of sunnyvale after a shooting no arrests made in that one a

53-year-old female victim the next to the shooting on one 25 in the insee obtain 416 at 639 shoot cultivation located one victim a 2-year-old male there was a homicide on 4 from the same day in arrests made a 2 years old male victim suffered from gunshot wounds and the victim died at the sienna homicide on albert lake the victim in this case with a was of of years old male found deceased in the lake an arrest warrant was made in that particular case on 528 at 10:50 p.m. a sutro at

19th street no arrests made one victim transported to san francisco general hospital stable condition and another homicides on 530, 6 hundred street of alabama and no arrests was made the victim in that particular case was was an african-american female there were two vehicles theft auto burglaries guns were taken in the media with a weapon was taken we found video in that particular case and that firearm was recovered and a little awhile on webster street a gentleman on his way to a gun range stopped for lunch and left the vehicle and 3 guns were you taken out of his

vehicles those guns are outstanding with that, i'm introducing tom who took any place in the policing bureau as the deputy chief and presenting will be units for captain jack from a trip to d.c. regarding the department of justice collaborative reform initiative. >> chief. >> chief some you're out of order chief do you have the sheet. >> i have a spreadsheet this adjusted i met with the mayor so i was waiting for the sheet as you may know the transition is

occurring i'll getting data but definitely have that for the next meeting. >> do you want to provide an update on the officer-involved shooting that happened thursday the 19 in the bayview. >> that shooting is under investigation 3 separate investigations going on one is through the homicide bureau the other through the internal affairs and thirds there george gascon unities that is two investors one of the percent we're waiting for the major accident team with reconstruction that investigation is ongoing as someone satsdz a meeting not a necessary a town hall meeting but within of the criticisms about the putting out too much information and kind of the speaker felt that was slanted

towards the officer, i'm trying to put out the facts we absolutely have right now those are the facts we have right now and we'll wait we're floats passing judgment for or against but waiting for the data and information is in before we pack make what decision what, if anything, we'll do on the investigation. >> commissioner wong. >> sorry i had a question but to director joyce hicks you mentioned 3 occ is opening an investigation. >> yes. conjunction the occ received a complaint in the officer-involved shooting of the jessica williams and jessica nelson we have so i understand an investor to that case. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i'm really glad to hear that at the meeting he he was at it has been several days none

has filed a complaint with the okay and the people said no complaint was filed i'm glad to hear someone has filed a complaint with the occ so an extinct people looking at that i'm glad the public needs to understand unless someone fielgz a complainants the occ didn't investigate. >> the commission unanimously approved a definition in support of proposition d an requirement of an individual file the complaint but an automatic investigation thank you. >> chief. >> every year you're a chief too. >> (laughter). >> commissioner president loftus and police commissioners, i want to make a brief

introduction 0 on deputy chief tom and thank you for promoting me to the principle policing bureau over 34 years in the billiards speaker cards and pens are available on the left side of the podium. and looking forward to working with the cops and doj next week they'll come out to san francisco and interview captain lieutenants and officers about the police department very excited to develop and implement new policy that brings this to the from the bottom of my heart this is my brief introduction here i also like to introduce captain jack hart and going to give us an update on the professional standards and policing. >> deputy chief welcome this is a new bureau i know that chief you've oversaw is one points one of the recommendations from department of justice there is a point of

contact a bureau that focuses on harnessing all the ideas and reforms i want to remind everyone people are being paying attention but this is an action of the one of the recommends to put those reforms under someone on the command staff level to track the number of things going forward and some of the public comment around the process of hiring and various others aspects so it is a huge job that you have so welcome to it and just want to welcome you and say we're landlords to hearing from you more. >> thank you, commissioner. >> welcome captain hart. >> good evening, commissioners i want to give you a brief update on the policing bureau specifically about purpose and starting with why and why this principle policing bureau exists and intending to side that mentioned by a lot of people that have been speaking on your

panel and behind me speaking about the mindset and guardiansship for san francisco i wanted to reflect that our bureau is not waiting for recommendations from the cops office to start a 360 review worksheet we've met with the chiefs and other captains and people of all ranks we've opened up our doors and e-mails and windows saying please eternally and internally the police department where we must be doing better and start with purpose and the clarity of purpose we wrote this there maybe not just words on a page but superstition from a usa dda today article in san francisco talking about little oakland raiders is not a best place but wisdom in the article it is not an exact science and exact

transmission what sports teams do is one thing but we what we do police officers effect people for life i like jack talks about the concepts that steak we need to be doing in the police department and bureau we believe the stirs step to get people to stop talking the fact that the raiders need to be turned around let's talk about what we'll do moving forward and bring that great energy the plan to get everyone's headnote right place and didn't end there we're talking about the mindset they've hired a mindset coach for nutrition and playing music for points and meetings on positive enforcement but there's hope out here a buzz a feeling a

good team we know we can win or the. >> this is not a game that's my point. >> you're out of order you're out of order tennessee. >> you're out of order if you'll not you'll have to be removed i know that people spent a lot of time to be here continue captain hart. >> we elected a president on the word twice hope the convincing players is critical to retraining the brain that cannot out perform a negative self-image the policing we are a cynical and exhaustive we need to focus on the hearts set as said by the cops office in washington, d.c. all the 21st century go task force are for the 6 was o one it might be the

most important because overhead health and wellness the officers need the capacity to do what everyone is screaming for they're our policing to captains this is our mission to operational lists the perform so our police officers are guardians defenders and servants feel safe townhouse the living and broekt character and value there is through the analysis and development and recognition and prelims the finest policies and practices and training that diserupts and transforms our men and women into the guardians that live and the highest honor, district and respective and inclusion and encourage both on duty and off duty as dr. marshall said in shorted weeping

we'll acknowledge our officers are the capacity to do all the things so at the end the cops office is here next week with 3 teams speaking inside and outside of department including setting up more opportunities for community opportunities and our youth engagement is in full swing to stop the violence on the street and gives kids the opportunity to thrive and be successful our garden project is 200 youth and two exciting innovations college credits for participating in the program and number two, that that work is not for them and for some reason not interested or successful instead of sending them back to their homes we've partnered with a community organization to do

an intact to figure out the job skills they need and other job opportunities that are available to them we're excited we've clot that loop we'll take a 360 approach for the youth and policing training is in effect our justice training 25 members went through that a fair and impartial training beginning of july an exciting an executive session all members will partner one-on-one with the members of the community and do an doesn't even trust and dialogue it is go to the start somewhere and from the bottom-up and meet in the middle from the top down from the xrurment looking at the recruitment and working with dhr to look at what makes sense and hire people and our recruitment people will be going out to so

many events this summer but officer is created a women's boot camp on wednesday so people not able to be successful in the application process that we're bringing them up and looking at the recruitment model to do extraordinary so who we choose to join with us in the san francisco police department 5 hundred and 50 across the united states and 5 hundred members trained an entire 360 review of cit from the team concepts to seattle a memphis and the across the united states working group with the district attorney's and mental health community-based organizations and everyone has a voice we'll have long meetings what it is going and our training and how we sustain to throughout everything and incidentally

tomorrow is go 8 o'clock on 19th street and honoring 15 officers that really practice deesclation skills note worthy of 3 separate awards from the state department and city hall and legislation in sacramento and written dwifshgz with three hundred and 50 bulletins that process is really encumbers our officers where the ideals and how of our job is easier we're closer 27 hundred other policies to best influence the policy and finally the professional standards with mark a post certified instructor through intoirnl you are internal auditing to understand

the transparency measures and holdings people accountability taking up 360 and looking at the existing everything we do and trying to set the highest ideas for the transparency that everyone has been screaming for that's what's going on. >> thank you, captain i have a couple of questions thank you for the comprehensive report i think we do have on the website a collaborative or more on the mission of page so that would be helpful so many thoefg if we could have a written reports with the zero and staffing and interferences that are being done and that would be great to get a written report i know you come on the first commission but that would be great to post those online so people can track it that would be great chief i also want to highlight the cit

awards with tomorrow the second across the united states awards last last year was the fifth floor was looking for keeping you informed circulating this is the second year of that and i know about internal auditing you know where i'll data, data data so that would be great in our next presentation i think that is really critical this department looking bringing in someone in the outside to evaluate the gaps in the data and answer the questions we're struggling with the content and the judge to our point so the why is that happening and what are the strategies that is departments can implement and seeing the disparities so i don't know if you have a response or that go ahead. >> the cops office the first

two weeks of their oeblt struggling dealing with data so we've transformed data they're understanding the entire process from with these 2000 to everything we run and they're looking at those things and dealing with technology so this is definitely part of clefb and number two highly tenanted people jean is one of the head analysts out of 8 hundred and 4 analysts she was selected as one of 5 to receive the reward for felix that crime analysis we're working with her as you said and aaron was here earlier we had an extensive report to talk about at the next commission regarding the traffic stop and overlayed shootings and vehicle prudence

and memoranda incomes and taken place a 360 look out of the chronicle and look forward to presenting that it didn't make the calendar this time. >> commissioner melara. >> you brought up looking at home sharing and some people talked about looking at the hiring practices one of the things i've been wondering about is obviously you've been putting in your head and responds to it whether or not we're looking at trauma informed hiring and post trauma distress disorders the type of work the police officers do it is extremely for those things don't come to the surfaced and how to make sure it

- some of the things i will be wondering and looking if other police departments as to how they do that if we don't already do it obviously i assume we do some of it so some of the things i'll want to insure that we continue to look for yes, we're definitely looking at this process as policing as a profession we hire one point people we are selective now the standards need to be address but the question if we're hiring the right people how to keep them great despite of the traumas and so on so, yeah 0 those are the issues we're looking at right now. >> commissioner wong. >> on the issue of hires i've heard you cock recruitment i hear or hear about folks applying and not hearing back we need to have on the back end i

don't know if it, it is newer purview the application process the population looks like and that getting offers and folks holding up i hear qualified folks are applying not accepted or red cross this is something to look at the second thought i have is in talking about with command staff everyone from captain and up everyone gets this idea of this transformation of philosophical and going back to a policing model and we talk about data my concern that sends a different message to our asserts and beats officers we're using the data to regulate and how to infuse that from the bottom-up my concern i've gotten feedback how do we implement those changes that the

sergeant at the training levels so next week they're being trained with a new philosophical 19 philosophy so what do we do in the next week to tell the officer i look at the use of force policy 19 pages long i don't know what the officer in the fields will had to know whether or not to use use of force this is a difficult thing to process how does we speak to the officers in the fields faced with those challenges every day. >> very good points with only person said rules are not sufficient and rules are unenforceable it basically says we need to start with the why when that becomes clear the policies are easy that's why but whether the why is fuzzy the

what and how are dangerous and someone spoke about the cultural change this classifying the purpose what to expect the highest ideas and getting into the police station and speaking with commissioners, on that motion and building up ourselves is clarifying all of those things we've been talking about and involves the cops not just in a 35 foot view how does we operationalize that in our policing to pack the purse and is flowery language so the cops feel safe and physically and emotionally to make those encourages decisions but make that clear our purposes. >> thank you commissioner dejesus. >> i'm glad you're talking about that but one of the things

that we're learning that the commands staff they have mandatory to like embrace this concept and implement the new use of force as well as the cit and have to do it set something up for the other i want to focus that the across the united states with a letter that is very detailed regarding aspects of the cit which this department has embraced but aspects that have not on implemented and embraced during it process was chocolate i didn't but some certificate things we need to look at are the officers having 3 years training or accepting the cit program or on this to the academies or the recruits the team concept was talked about they recommended to have

the team process and two people in place training was scenarios putting money where we are talking about the way with swat we need to put the scenarios so they train in terms of learning with the deesclation and making critical judgements we near doing that we need to look at if if we do cit we need to implement that fully and put the money and train we have wonderful mental health people will have been volunteering we need to pay them and give them an stipend and include them in analyzing you know right now i know that the firearms analyze the officer-involved shooting but having the analysts analysis that like commissioner antonini tells us what we did wrong i mean and i also feel i've told

many people in the communities i feel at that point certain districts that needs emergency train we can't wait until next year the bayview and others districts needs time and distance training this is something we need to look at you can take that command staff and train them and look at it reporting i know we have the capacity to send the cit officer out the homeless people said something that going on i don't know in their deployed but we need to analyze what is happened and make better tactics and better training for high-risk

communities putting your money where your mouth is and believe it or not we put a general orders we don't have one be one of the holes to put the cit before we say we need other tasers or other weapons but we need to fix that and put it in place to be clear. >> (clapping.) >> and so there's a lot of things i think that really should have priorities i think you guys should prioritize the issues we're not have that come back at us again. >> i'll jump in on the passenger side ph.d and 3 classes a year now pushing people through

the deesclation is built into the rank you go and shot and learn about times and distance and force options there are scenarios where you know quite frankly you're introduced to situation you don't shoot not a fast training where your leon you have options rather than firearms and other ways to deescalate around shooting. >> is that for the sergeants and everybody. >> that's for everybody going through with regards to the rank and file officers i got ♪ job a a little over a week ago i will introduce myself to the watch and various packs to the departments and volunteered to teach i know most of them but introducing myself as their chief acting chief for now and

one of the things i'll do is introduce a q and a session for all of in them they can ask questions about the use of force and those subjects most of them a members of poa and discussed the policy i want to talk to them and found out concerns and try to dispel the rumors ultimately this boyle down to push it cross the tackle the situation are with a thought of everyone making it outs but the other things the things we've discussed with in place or in process of could go that now this is part of reform initiative from the cops doj office looufkt the best practices and they're letting us know some of the things they've identified as jack said earlier we're in the process of fixing

things identified and as we go along and not waiting for the final documents be drafted >> what about this high-risk to the bayview and the areas we're seeing a lot of the shadowing. >> the problem with that statement is there is you know what happens when someone from the tenderloin makes their way into the north beach area and you deal with that person we're struggling that outs and bringing people from everywhere san francisco is a diverse city but people that mental health issues they are everywhere we're pushing this out and want the training everywhere we are taking people you said the team concept we were closer it and sending people from policing up to seattle with a model program to see what they're doing and address that we have our

negotiation team their roving around the city and have almost 100 percent save rate with deesclation practices before deadly force is used and one loss a chp issue on the bay bridge they're now monitoring a radio and finding to responds i monitor the air the other day i heard you know a unit responding to a call of a they call it an 8 hundreds personal out of control in a garage i waited and wade and directed a cutting officer to responds it was deescalated the person was ultimately issued and mental health detention and end well, that's what we have to think of what we get the calls in the first place are the people are the proper training

recordings 0 those particular calls that's the piece we're working on now and part of piece we have to have in place while we train everyone right now a force training with over 5 hundred people are cit trained by the goal to get everyone but quite frankly we have a ton of things that are doing this they can on this do so many classes but quite frankly we have the funds and facility and the officers in place just the professionals and this is not something we can do by bringing anyone in those are folks that are expert if in their fields

and the ph.d. >> we say had a meeting to discuss where the department is versus where some folks like it to be around the officers i think that sam is here from the oracle and with prior meetings and thank you commissioner mazzuco and commissioner wong who brought up the short time with weapons and protocols to make sure flare a quasi to track and chief suhr had in place i think a sheet again i'll sorts of butch this some yeah. all right. don't good we're having the technology people enter that sort of forum. >> in 2000. >> no, but in will be tracked. >> yanlt that is microsoft 2000 the president that meeting is rescheduled on the 19 to with the new chief and invite commissioner mazzuco a number of

things you're talking about are ongoing and also including having an academic partner and looking at the xrit and initial could have but i think that will be good to participate in that. >> anything else for captain hart and anything further from chief chaplain. >> anything else. >> any questions for the chief. >> it is come it's coming i promise were okay hearing none, then sergeant, next line item. >> item 3 occ directors report to allow the director to report on occ activities and make announcements. >> good evening director joyce hicks. >> good evening commissioner president loftus and chief chaplain the occ is in the

process of phil several vacancies finally the ab one senior investor list was certified and have the authority to fill 3 vacancies we will be hiring from that list 3 senior investigators. >> additionally authorized to hire one 8 is line investigator position and been looking at resumes for a temporary fill of a 105 is information systems business analysis assistant position and we will be making a hiring decision within the next several weeks we have just filed an 8177 attorney vacancies with someone from the police commission and the police department john

formerly an attorney at police department and at the appropriate time i will have john alden appear at the police commission we agreed that will be he very busy evening this evening. and cops will be spending a lot of time with the office of citizens complaints they will be enduring several staff members at the office of citizens complaints to see how our investigations mesh but with the police department >> i believe that that concludes my remarks. >> any questions for director hicks. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i did get some calls your phenomenon that your systems were down. >> i got a call your tell systems were down for two days

is that accurate. >> unfortunately commissioner dejesus that's accurate the occ phones did go down for two days last week there was a power failure in the evening at the 25 ms in the office building our approximately the power came in and out and in and out it did blow out the occ phones they were repaired for our departments we used cell phones. >> i was wondering how to make complaints but other alternatives they can go online i educational to go make sense complaints when the system is down. >> that's correct commissioner dejesus containments go online additionally they can come to

the occ offices and have a interviewer in person and they can go to any administration building to file a complaint or in a field with an overhead an individual can file a complaint with the occ we work hard to get those phones back up and worked with the department of information services they were a part that had to be ordered and we're up and running again. >> one of the things i'll appreciate i saw your system was down can you let the public know they can make anonymous complaints people didn't want to go down there and couldn't reach you it is something we should put out there again so people

understand. >> again commissioner dejesus and members of the commission and public individuals can make unanimous complaints and the occ will protect that confidentiality and you don't have to be a citizen to file a complaint with the office of citizens complaints more do you have to be it violated individual with the interact with the police departments or police officer some complainants have filed complaint because they saw something on youtube or something on the television and we received overseeing complaints and investigate those complaints. >> if you don't mind when you're filing an honest complaint can you do it in person or over the phone over the internet i don't know how

that works you are to show up in person. >> again commissioner dejesus an unanimous complaint can be filed in the same way dunn online or done by snail mail or any eel to the occ a number of possibilities for filing an anonymous complainant. >> commissioner wong. >> thank you director hicks i'm wondering at a future police commission can you give us an overhead budget for the next season a general idea of it comes up every year i know that the okay is shorts in terms of performing it's dude whether equipment to watch the body camera footage or people to analyze it a general idea of the budgets ask and what we should

be advocating for in terms of what you'll need to have the oak function. >> thank you very much commissioner wong and while i have presented in the past the occs budget ask and also presented that mayor ed lee provided in his budget one wants $8 million to the occ over the next two-year budget to increase the staff by 20 percent, to provide the occ with professional services money as for transcription services the investigation no more than has to transcribe their own interviews on their own and the occ is also asked for

additional vehicle and for additional equipment computer equipment and so that the viewing of the body camera foaming will be seamless. >> thank you. >> you're welcome any furthers questions for director hicks par sergeant, next line item. >> item 3-d switzerland of the items for consideration of future meeting special. >> go ahead sorry. >> special use of force on june 8th and cafe city college san francisco 5043 listen avenue and june 15th grattan elementary school obtain grattan street. >> we've done in thorough xhoermz and one major item on the agendas so folks can learn

the issues and a chance for the commission to hear from the public those are scheduled for the 8 and 15 he did note today that there were a jirj report for the crime lab and address that to the agenda and practical i know we'll be on the use of force but the commission needs to here the finding from grand jury and activities with the african-american recruitment penalty to hear from some of the folks with a community collaboration and not done by the department and learn from that schedule that chief in one of your reports that would be helpful and colleagues anything commissioner dejesus. >> i'd like to puts on the agenda a report on the status of

cit d go a. as an action item and set up a subcommittee it is important 0 work on the cit d go and some people wanted a report and perhaps from the subcommittee i think the cit is critical to the installation and to have in the completed is it is not rights it needs to be done and the second thing when i was looking at the processed i asked for a motion to sever the department bulletin on tasers it was in committee at a point i forgot what happened but - anyway while lemon get this straight while the use of force was sent to be worked on i was - i wanted it served and wanted to vote whether or not to have tasers as part of policy and i'd

like to put only action item an important next wee week we sever the tasers support policy. >> (clapping.) >> i think we may be have this meeting but i think we need to have many debate and it was clever and separate smarts to have the department bulletin to continue to talk about severing the bulletin. >> anything further colleagues i'm sorry, sir public comment and to clarify items 3 a and 3-d welcome back. >> let me explain what cops that comes again and again and again that stands for community oriented policing services and cops has from authority to investigate what they do is waste of time now since you have

the internet and your directing to the acting chief do this and that and do whatever i have reason to writing and detailed maybe 4 hundred page report to be put on the website because cops have not done go the first meeting held at marshall was a flop doss because no outreach was done and the second meeting he would say in the mission that was successful the third meeting was a flop and keep on talking about cops and going to washington, d.c. who pays for that we pay for that and cops through the community so we invited cops to the oscar grand the mario woods justice for mario woods coalition we invited the cops they said oh, no, we

don't want to come there they did come and the tv cameras were there and we told them don't waste of time don't wasted our money and cops habit of inviting people to washington and you go to washington you're like the washington crowd believe me don't waste of time and finally i'll advise you commissioners as all, all of you should resign sects of 15 minutes and talk to the point like you give me 15 minutes and by 7 o'clock we should be out 37. >> thank you. next speaker. >> your comments are two hours. >> welcome back. >> commissioners again, i'm edwin very have 3 points

discussed one is not mentions the contingency needs to have binding input who the next police chief an intern chief bindings i don't want the communities to have a say and provides the buttons we're talking about they sit on the subcommittee 1, 2, 3 seats with binding but the with the 3 candidates and sent to the mayor, i you have the authority and number two you reason we need the captain that is willing to stand up to the poa at the end of the day that's what we're stopping the reforms in the city and need someone that is willing to stands up up to the poa and number it 23 i'm curious on this commission is aware of a meeting at 10:00 a.m. with the latino leadership tomorrow. >> i'm aware great the communities is not aware of it this meeting

shouldn't took place we're asking the community latino leaders their latino members not asked to meet i believe meet with the chief that's not how it works the community needs to have a is who is going to be be at the meeting and whether it is you presenting the reforms the communities has a plan on how to present the reforms and come to you and offer those reforms but you'll not having secret meeting in the bayview where unquote unquote latino leadership when the folks were not invited to the meeting that's not how we'll move forward i ask to you school this meeting and happy to talk about what the next meeting will be held and bring the reforms to have that discussion thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> (clapping.)

>> male i'm tom i'm back okay. where's my list okay talking about the committee subcommittee that is picking the examines phenomenon the new chief even though this is i strongly urge to have to people present to the mayor in the in the current sfpd we need someone from outside to clean house you'll have to give within inside person try to not have that be a corrupt cop you'll do it operationally is presenting the mayor with 3 good choices make them good i appreciate the subcommittee didn't pick the last two chiefs that didn't workout i'll stop criticizing

the subcommittee what else do i have to say the poa wants a cops cop we had that that did work we need a people's cop to be the chief they can put him in charge of poa excuse me for yelling what else oh, i'll quote jane kim who had the courage and political foresight to do the outbid and hear office has the following statement for the top brass a culture of protecting the city families that's corruption by the way, what about the police department leadership entrust in every neighborhood not one set of rules for city hall establishment anticipate another for everyone else that is the root of problem that is going on in the city for at least the of years i'm aware and

probably for many decades prior this is your chance to finally change it please do so thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> herbert wiener. >> i'm sure that the police chief o those top folks agree rank has no privileges on this responsibilities that was maids by evans the expanding officer of the second raider battalion in world war ii i'd like to suggest for the next meeting that mental health professionals show up that includes analysis and psychiatrists from usf people and criminalists one time a psychoanalysis is deceased when a policeman fires his

weapon that's. >> sign of failure now i don't know if i agree with that entirely i think the police have a difficult times there's a statement better to be tried by 6 than cards by 6 i do think that mental health professionals need feedback here outside the box is very important there are psychology aspects of the use of force and we need to weigh it from all sides thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> welcome back. >> thank you my name is magic i first of all, want to thank commissioner dejesus for your encourage in saying what needs to be said and i want to especially thank you. >> (clapping.) >> because you're the first people that not limited to

something went wrong with louis killing thank you for that. >> that was encourages i have to say that by the way, somebody can get commissioner turman a cup of coffee he's been falling asleep it might help to get our attention i want to say that mr. chaplain you started out our end here it helps to look at the person not on the screen it really will be appreciated you didn't mention jessica williams the first one that happened that day everyone here do we know that she was killed by saying her name can we all is a hero name jessica williams she was forgotten in our report you

didn't say her name no community meeting you didn't like the way that was run the officers leave weapons at the door we actually talk to each other how about that now i also want to say that greg suhr is only been praised singles he left office by public officials on this then praised and under his watch homophobic text and these officers are with us not taken to task and murder and afterward r manufacture and the day after he came out and defend those none in the public is talking about that what did he gets asked to - >> thank you your time is up. >> >> (clapping.) >> >> next speaker. >> welcome back.

>> so i want to echo is sentiments of some of my succumb radicals the community the meeting didn't know b.c. about only a few chosen that is not cool and office building some of my sentiments i want this to stick regardless of what type of training you're talking about you cannot train someone not to be racist you can't train common sense you can't train intelligence, you can't train compassion and can't train yes, ma'am paths and humiliate you have to take into consideration the human elements to be it is a joke if you don't otherwise you know because this is like cutting the tops off of weeds and not get to the root we're not getting anywhere.

>> thank you. next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening i'm karen an anti - interesting and post blogger and advocate and a member of justice for mario woods coalition and a founder of san franciscans our please accountability and mom and mentor to hundreds of young adults that have radio in common with mario woods went to is national gun violence awareness day the 6 anniversary since sfpd executed mario in front of school children and eyewitnesses it will take sfpd judicially to kill two more people for world action to occur the rule of this body to have accountability to the san francisco police department open your watch sfpd is rouge

and racist and violent you need to hold yourselves accountable i can't call 911 the officer didn't send a text message you didn't attend the final hearing the blue ribbon panel only who were at jeff adachi justice submit you're considering the use of force with national experts on use of force the whole unauthorized units community and nun of the usf do more harm where the doctor presented about racism and violence that needs to be on the agendas her presentation about racism and police brutality needs to come under considerations this needs to be your focus. >> thank you. next speaker. >> welcome back.

>> thank you, again so many things were you said in that presentation about sales pitch of hope which in my opinion is saleable. >> the recruitment program needs a lot of attention poa is controlling that all across the country if we narrow down or applicants to one percent of those who apply how come they have the same last names and come from the same home towns and known each other from boy scouts to church and members of the emerson's society that is the american society it dominates the police units all over the country started in the

1840s something wrong someone needs to look at the criteria not the percentage of applicants that get in and judge i'm not sure judge - >> see were any vote is going commissioner wong asked to compare the data i'm in the affirmative action and been for 40 years you determine the applicant flow the tracking process how many people applied what were the geography graphics and who came to the first and second screening and who passed the poa test before then they became police officers so, please stay only thing that that the it is critical otherwise the crime of african-american other officers will be looked at as you know, what it will be looked at as unqualified affirmative

action playing the race cards let's do it right thank you. >> next speaker >> welcome back. >> tom i want the police chief to succeed i think the whole city does we want our police department not to be us but we this is a low spot in the city all the way around the bends not here in the mr. johnson i mean we all know that tasers if you're close enough to shoot a tasers have a fishing net through a fishing net even madison bum gardens could teach

people we know we have mental health problems and not trained to be mental health guardians we need a practices when we get from control to send them someplace we have a we've got a lot more work to do as far as deescalating if a two team police units one person not wearing a belt and they do accident approaching they don't want to get themselves in troubt not get themselves in danger not circulates nothing in a guy or woman comes builtless i've got a badge we want to help the police chief greg suhr got

fired a policeman pulled a gun the sergeant fireside the chief he was on forum and in the affair of germany no police killed anybody thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> again, i'd like to echo what in any friends francisco said about the process it is designed to bore us to death those in the audience and to keep us from saying what we would like to say if you don't beaked consider changing the rules a we can comment you know more rapidly you know coming here every wednesday and staying to 9 o'clock is not my ideas of a good times i'll echo the gentleman's lack of trust with the subcommittee doing the

search a 3 person subcommittee is not going to be near as open a process as all of you guys are involved and you know the you know the talk about how you'll be involved, etc. i'm not buying if it you're trying to restore trust need an open process it is the subcommittee and the communities input and linda 0 spoke that that very well where it the community you guys coming out and doing dog and pony shows for whoever shows up is not communities input we have a strong invested interest in the new chief those of us in the activist community guess what that was us got rd of the chief not you marching one thousand

strong by the hunger strickers and the mario woods coalition in the mayor's faces, etc., etc. it was us you guys didn't do that we need to be at the table in a real way when the new chief is chosen and finally as far as the gentleman that spoke to cops this why we don't trust that process it is a hope change stuff - >> thank you, nancy pelosi. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> i'm dbe i can't - they tried to protect the city i think their problems that should be fixed but i don't think that is safe to send them out unlike

a mission without any protection for themselves if there as dangerous person there and can't say protect themselves so i'd like to thank them for at least trying to protect our city thank you. >> thank you, very much. >> (clapping.) >> >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> yeah. a modified suggestion on the tasers approval process or these never mind interest since it's mostly been in the bayview and the mission pope police murdered people my suggestion you hold meetings on the tasers in the mission and let the people say if they feel more safe in the police have tasers. >> further comment on a

through d coupling up and week. >> my name is adrian i noticed for the next meetings on june 8th and 15 on the use of force i was wondering if you're going to have those meetings in the bayview and in the mission you know districts the two areas highly impacted from the use of force. >> thank you any furthers public comment on 3 a through 3-d. >> welcome back. >> i hear a lot of things coming from you guys i don't want to see sugar cannot stuff not poison i want to see results now a month ago i gaffe you guys

9 copies or killing them safely a month ago you guys should be able to watch you will have you should have been able to watch what happened to the 9 copies i hadn't out here's a copy for i want you to take it home and watch it and give to the vice presidents for owning. >> i'm going to watch it. >> sergeant bring me that dvd thank you. >> i'll watch it and report back thank you. next speaker. >> hi my name is rolsz again, i saw the documentary and shaken visually shaken by the tasers in the hands of the policy 5 hundred fatalities i want to say i listen to i, i feel like i'm at a meeting not inclusion but

i'm just saying in the president i'm surprised you need to work with your commissioners and we're not ungrateful he feel that is what is happening it is helping you to move ahead and not let the commissioners know what was going on i thoughts you were better than that i'm saying it is the inclusion instead of division >> thank you. next speaker. >> come back. >> it can't say be said too often that the use of force policies of this commission and that police department have been failures awful a lot of rhetoric and deception and mission information when innocent people are killed by the police that thrills that you're not implementing the deesclation

that is so clear you don't have to repeat it more than once ♪ atmosphere until and unless you ever, fix the system that lets that happen until there is affordability with police that kill people without justification you are prosecutors for murder and unless that happens you shouldn't never ever talk about tasers before this commission that had is ton taken off the table that clearly are instruments of e excavation innovates deesclation they cause more violence than they solve when police departments get those reports the shootings there's not did you observe but up why you would be considering this now and repeatedly makes in a sense

just doesn't make sense having you have an agendas at the mayor the behest follow orders from the mayor no later than what how bad that that advise is and the policies and taylor's are the worst that has come out of mayor's office >> any furthers public comment on item 3 a through d. >> i have to say something before i've lived in the city for thirty years and i'm appalled looking at this this whole thing is a joke right now i see that i've been working $200 i've been a flight tablet for united airlines and this is absurd you're not paying attention. >> why not look at someone when in their talking about that's considered appropriate in

the united states of america i don't know that you have a computers until i heard her say it to something else? my first here i'm talking and no one is looking at me their luke away and over here it is clear you guys are doing this as a show this is not for the public this is not for our input it is not for anything we have to say this is a show and now i know i was under the envision i lived in 0 progressive city i was proud to live in san francisco and now going home to my city i'm retired one year i have 48 seconds to tell you i'm disguftsd spending time in my city i've lived in 4:30 years disgood enough with the people on the street and discuss gusted how many police are proortd

around my neighborhood in bernal heights and all of a sudden 24 talk about extra care i see more, more copies on every scene and more people arresting people or arresting people from crossing the street you put enough people out there we'll all break the law we're all what mentally ill. >> any mother comments on items 1920 a through d. >> welcome back. >> i believe that i could finally finish when i wanted to say as mentioned non-nobody wants to hear about my sons case that is disgrateful i have right

to finish with the transparency morbidity with the question when something happens with a loved one and communicate to that person for 4 days and you start calling all hospitals all police departments. >> counties and jails co-sponsor norz office and the police department including the san francisco police department and all i mean the police departments we have nothing to do with the appearance of this person has nothing to do with

with such a person and officers with telling you your son is if he wanted to call you he would call you it is easier if he is andrew's this person says john in the department knowing what is happened to any son he is into custody in almost traumatized condition he say if any son is able to call me, i'm looking for any son for four days and the san francisco police department on the police department says to me - >> sounds like a complaint of police misconduct we have a have ever from the office of citizens complaints. >> i'd like to refer you to the

senior investor with the office of citizens complaints can you identify yourselves and foul with that gentleman to insure if there is follow-up they can do he's right there i'm sorry this is what happened and please he's right there since you came tonight let's hook you up come an 3 a through 3-d. >> welcome and good evening. >> thank you for allowing me to comment i want to talk about the nature of communities in san francisco and the fact that police are dedicated to protect and serve us i also know that people are separated out from the community as dangerous as criminals even before their tried they are identified as dangerous and criminal and it is that us against them

philosophy that opens the door to using instruments of torture and weapons totally unregulated by any agency against that portion of our communities this has to stop if we're going to be talking about community policing we have to be talking about the entire community everyone needs to be protected and served no matter how the police may feel about them this is not their job to kickoff people who need to be operated from us i want to say that tares are weapons one more weapon to be used against people in the community and this is unconscionable we don't need

more weapons and other public comment. >> good evening i'll not try to say names a couple points i know you're having communities meetings and i think that it is really important when you have meetings meeting many place large enough to hold people i've

been to many there are lines out the door why not in the board of supervisors chambers because those are issues that people care about and people coming to the meetings that's one recommendation there's a lot of talk about cit and city of berkley as an interesting and wonderful model up worked there for seven years they have a model they sends mental health employees outs with officers and often the people end up being in the hands of mental health workers workers a great model the other thing 53 we should consider how to deal with officers in crisis a lot of the use of force has been because officers are in crisis i worked with a group of people

probation officer develop police intervene where someone might end much up seriously injured in the city of new orleans it is important to bring that to the city any further public comment on 3 a through 3-d. >> welcome back. >> i want to on these issues talk about the staech for the police chief it is important but i think that whether this intern chief wants to stay it had to be someone that changes the cultural from the top do you think i'm disturbed about the

racist text message and that's been diminished by the poa that really, really bothers me as a public servant i wouldn't think about texting that has last year, i think i testified to the commission i had too bad combrnts with two different sets of cops that showed me there still needs a culture change in top to bottom and better screening and recruitment and people with other skills and people that know you don't talk about people like inhuman beings and a couple of weeks ago 26 hours after chief suhr stepped counsel another horrible encounter i'll send to the occ i want