capacities 3 had side folks in attendance he mentioned the tenants are skshdz with safety issues and housing developments in particular in reference to a 74-year-old woman was assaulted by a younger man and captain lazarus they raised security improvements concerns and thrilled to captain lazarus the chief will have a chance to address i attended the public defenders symposium the speaker was excellent speaker i thought in general there was a police practices exert that testified or cross police station by jeff adachi gave a good commentary mr. williams said one thing the san francisco police department didn't have deesclation practices in place i believe any place not part of

use of force two separate policies in place but in general a good symposium and watched the killing of safety on netflix can't say it changed my position i previously stayed i don't believe that tasers are rights for the department right now and finally i attended yesterday and session by the lower polk neighborhood association th the ofrls /* officials spoke. >> thank you, chief important allowing me specifically talk about them i'm on the communities those are recruits are reed to hit the streets one thing i wanted to talk about is

the concept of language the language that he use we know we've had a lot of issues around homelessness he minded them fingerprinting two issues i wanted them to know that that language is putting them in front of the commission so i want to talk about that i was not there to threaten them but that is possible. >> i wanted to go deeper and just not talk about the concept of the offensive but i use the disruption language uses and wanted them to get this this is not words i don't use but their destructive a concept i introduced to them maybe i'm not surprised we heard it was well

received and asked for more more so i appreciate them sitting and listening to me they've been there a lot of things i went around the room i ask that that make sense what i understand but i wanted them to make them aware not only using those words on the streets and in the public but also not to user words at all when happening in the private text away from work they're sitting what is happening so it was i mean really good great i hope to do more i think they actually asked to do more one of the things i hope you'll extend though the veteran officers thank you and men i think you've heard things about that i appreciate that very much. >> thank you commissioner marshall and commissioner

mazzuco. >> i attended a panel along with commissioner president loftus and commissioner vice president turman a group of judges and catholic lawyers with policing and asked great questions and thank you for the commissioners for the presentation appellant court judges and a good crowd of attorneys that asked are hard questions not an issue we only see in the room many people are talking about it was a very productive and received from the dean of u.s. law school and thanking us we'll be visiting the law school soon to thank you. >> anything further commissioners sergeant, next line item. >> item 3 b chiefs report to allow the police chief to reports on recent police department activities and update

from the professional standards bureau. >> good evening achieve a you, you we were dark last but a shooting at taylor in central no arrests at 10:05 p.m. and two victims one a 14-year-old and the other a 19-year-old the second shootings on the 23 in the inigleside district 15 block of sunnyvale after a shooting no arrests made in that one a 53-year-old female victim the next to the shooting on one 25 in the insee obtain 416 at 639 shoot cultivation located one victim a 2-year-old male there was a homicide on 4 from the

same day in arrests made a 2 years old male victim suffered from gunshot wounds and the victim died at the sienna homicide on albert lake the victim in this case with a was of of years old male found deceased in the lake an arrest warrant was made in that particular case on 528 at 10:50 p.m. a sutro at 19th street no arrests made one victim transported to san francisco general hospital stable condition and another homicides on 530, 6 hundred street of alabama and no arrests was made the victim in that particular case was was an

african-american female there were two vehicles theft auto burglaries guns were taken in the media with a weapon was taken we found video in that particular case and that firearm was recovered and a little awhile on webster street a gentleman on his way to a gun range stopped for lunch and left the vehicle and 3 guns were you taken out of his vehicles those guns are outstanding with that, i'm introducing tom who took any place in the policing bureau as the deputy chief and presenting will be units for captain jack from a trip to d.c. regarding

the department of justice collaborative reform initiative. >> chief. >> chief some you're out of order chief do you have the sheet. >> i have a spreadsheet this adjusted i met with the mayor so i was waiting for the sheet as you may know the transition is occurring i'll getting data but definitely have that for the next meeting. >> do you want to provide an update on the officer-involved shooting that happened thursday the 19 in the bayview. >> that shooting is under investigation 3 separate investigations going on one is through the homicide bureau the

other through the internal affairs and thirds there george gascon unities that is two investors one of the percent we're waiting for the major accident team with reconstruction that investigation is ongoing as someone satsdz a meeting not a necessary a town hall meeting but within of the criticisms about the putting out too much information and kind of the speaker felt that was slanted towards the officer, i'm trying to put out the facts we absolutely have right now those are the facts we have right now and we'll wait we're floats passing judgment for or against but waiting for the data and information is in before we pack make what decision what, if

anything, we'll do on the investigation. >> commissioner wong. >> sorry i had a question but to director joyce hicks you mentioned 3 occ is opening an investigation. >> yes. conjunction the occ received a complaint in the officer-involved shooting of the jessica williams and jessica nelson we have so i understand an investor to that case. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i'm really glad to hear that at the meeting he he was at it has been several days none has filed a complaint with the okay and the people said no complaint was filed i'm glad to hear someone has filed a complaint with the occ so an extinct people looking at that i'm glad the public needs to understand unless someone fielgz

a complainants the occ didn't investigate. >> the commission unanimously approved a definition in support of proposition d an requirement of an individual file the complaint but an automatic investigation thank you. >> chief. >> every year you're a chief too. >> (laughter). >> commissioner president loftus and police commissioners, i want to make a brief introduction 0 on deputy chief tom and thank you for promoting me to the principle policing bureau over 34 years in the billiards speaker cards and pens are available on the left side of the podium. and looking forward to working with the cops and doj next week they'll come out to san

francisco and interview captain lieutenants and officers about the police department very excited to develop and implement new policy that brings this to the from the bottom of my heart this is my brief introduction here i also like to introduce captain jack hart and going to give us an update on the professional standards and policing. >> deputy chief welcome this is a new bureau i know that chief you've oversaw is one points one of the recommendations from department of justice there is a point of contact a bureau that focuses on harnessing all the ideas and reforms i want to remind everyone people are being paying attention but this is an action of the one of the recommends to put those reforms under someone on the command staff level to track the number of things going

forward and some of the public comment around the process of hiring and various others aspects so it is a huge job that you have so welcome to it and just want to welcome you and say we're landlords to hearing from you more. >> thank you, commissioner. >> welcome captain hart. >> good evening, commissioners i want to give you a brief update on the policing bureau specifically about purpose and starting with why and why this principle policing bureau exists and intending to side that mentioned by a lot of people that have been speaking on your panel and behind me speaking about the mindset and guardiansship for san francisco i wanted to reflect that our bureau is not waiting for recommendations from the cops office to start a 360 review worksheet we've met with the chiefs and other captains and

people of all ranks we've opened up our doors and e-mails and windows saying please eternally and internally the police department where we must be doing better and start with purpose and the clarity of purpose we wrote this there maybe not just words on a page but superstition from a usa dda today article in san francisco talking about little oakland raiders is not a best place but wisdom in the article it is not an exact science and exact transmission what sports teams do is one thing but we what we do police officers effect people for life i like jack talks about the concepts that steak we need to be doing in the police department and bureau we believe the stirs step to get people to

stop talking the fact that the raiders need to be turned around let's talk about what we'll do moving forward and bring that great energy the plan to get everyone's headnote right place and didn't end there we're talking about the mindset they've hired a mindset coach for nutrition and playing music for points and meetings on positive enforcement but there's hope out here a buzz a feeling a good team we know we can win or the. >> this is not a game that's my point. >> you're out of order you're out of order tennessee. >> you're out of order if you'll not you'll have to be removed i know that people spent a lot of time to be here

continue captain hart. >> we elected a president on the word twice hope the convincing players is critical to retraining the brain that cannot out perform a negative self-image the policing we are a cynical and exhaustive we need to focus on the hearts set as said by the cops office in washington, d.c. all the 21st century go task force are for the 6 was o one it might be the most important because overhead health and wellness the officers need the capacity to do what everyone is screaming for they're our policing to captains this is our mission to operational lists the perform so our police officers are guardians defenders and servants

feel safe townhouse the living and broekt character and value there is through the analysis and development and recognition and prelims the finest policies and practices and training that diserupts and transforms our men and women into the guardians that live and the highest honor, district and respective and inclusion and encourage both on duty and off duty as dr. marshall said in shorted weeping we'll acknowledge our officers are the capacity to do all the things so at the end the cops office is here next week with 3 teams speaking inside and outside of department including

setting up more opportunities for community opportunities and our youth engagement is in full swing to stop the violence on the street and gives kids the opportunity to thrive and be successful our garden project is 200 youth and two exciting innovations college credits for participating in the program and number two, that that work is not for them and for some reason not interested or successful instead of sending them back to their homes we've partnered with a community organization to do an intact to figure out the job skills they need and other job opportunities that are available to them we're excited we've clot that loop we'll take a 36 approach for the youth and policing training is in effect

our justice training 25 members went through that a fair and impartial training beginning of july an exciting an executive session all members will partner one-on-one with the members of the community and do an doesn't even trust and dialogue it is go to the start somewhere and from the bottom-up and meet in the middle from the top down from the xrurment looking at the recruitment and working with dhr to look at what makes sense and hire people and our recruitment people will be going out to so many events this summer but officer is created a women's boot camp on wednesday so people not able to be successful in the application process that we're bringing them up and looking at the recruitment model to do

extraordinary so who we choose to join with us in the san francisco police department 5 hundred and 50 across the united states and 5 hundred members trained an entire 360 review of cit from the team concepts to seattle a memphis and the across the united states working group with the district attorney's and mental health community-based organizations and everyone has a voice we'll have long meetings what it is going and our training and how we sustain to throughout everything and incidentally tomorrow is go 8 o'clock on 19th street and honoring 15 officers that really practice deesclation skills note worthy of 3 separate awards from the state department and city hall and legislation in

sacramento and written dwifshgz with three hundred and 50 bulletins that process is really encumbers our officers where the ideals and how of our job is easier we're closer 27 hundred other policies to best influence the policy and finally the professional standards with mark a post certified instructor through intoirnl you are internal auditing to understand the transparency measures and holdings people accountability taking up 360 and looking at the existing everything we do and trying to set the highest ideas for the transparency that everyone has been screaming for that's what's going on. >> thank you, captain i have a

couple of questions thank you for the comprehensive report i think we do have on the website a collaborative or more on the mission of page so that would be helpful so many thoefg if we could have a written reports with the zero and staffing and interferences that are being done and that would be great to get a written report i know you come on the first commission but that would be great to post those online so people can track it that would be great chief i also want to highlight the cit awards with tomorrow the second across the united states awards last last year was the fifth floor was looking for keeping you informed circulating this is the second year of that and i know about internal

auditing you know where i'll data, data data so that would be great in our next presentation i think that is really critical this department looking bringing in someone in the outside to evaluate the gaps in the data and answer the questions we're struggling with the content and the judge to our point so the why is that happening and what are the strategies that is departments can implement and seeing the disparities so i don't know if you have a response or that go ahead. >> the cops office the first two weeks of their oeblt struggling dealing with data so we've transformed data they're understanding the entire process from with these 2000 to everything we run and they're looking at those things and dealing with technology so this

is definitely part of clefb and number two highly tenanted people jean is one of the head analysts out of 8 hundred and 4 analysts she was selected as one of 5 to receive the reward for felix that crime analysis we're working with her as you said and aaron was here earlier we had an extensive report to talk about at the next commission regarding the traffic stop and overlayed shootings and vehicle prudence and memoranda incomes and taken place a 360 look out of the chronicle and look forward to presenting that it didn't make the calendar this time. >> commissioner melara. >> you brought up looking at

home sharing and some people talked about looking at the hiring practices one of the things i've been wondering about is obviously you've been putting in your head and responds to it whether or not we're looking at trauma informed hiring and post trauma distress disorders the type of work the police officers do it is extremely for those things don't come to the surfaced and how to make sure it - some of the things i will be wondering and looking if other police departments as to how they do that if we don't already do it obviously i assume we do some of it so some of the things i'll want to insure that we continue to look for yes, we're definitely looking at

this process as policing as a profession we hire one point people we are selective now the standards need to be address but the question if we're hiring the right people how to keep them great despite of the traumas and so on so, yeah 0 those are the issues we're looking at right now. >> commissioner wong. >> on the issue of hires i've heard you cock recruitment i hear or hear about folks applying and not hearing back we need to have on the back end i don't know if it, it is newer purview the application process the population looks like and that getting offers and folks holding up i hear qualified folks are applying not accepted or red cross this is something to look at the second thought i

have is in talking about with command staff everyone from captain and up everyone gets this idea of this transformation of philosophical and going back to a policing model and we talk about data my concern that sends a different message to our asserts and beats officers we're usingata to regulate and how to infuse that from the bottom-up my concern i've gotten feedback how do we implement those changes that the sergeant at the training levels so next week they're being trained with a new philosophical 19 philosophy so what do we do in the next week to tell the officer i look at the use of force policy 19 pages long i

don't know what the officer in the fields will had to know whether or not to use use of force this is a difficult thing to process how does we speak to the officers in the fields faced with those challenges every day. >> very good points with only person said rules are not sufficient and rules are unenforceable it basically says we need to start with the why when that becomes clear the policies are easy that's why but whether the why is fuzzy the what and how are dangerous and someone spoke about the cultural change this classifying the purpose what to expect the highest ideas and getting into the police station and speaking with commissioners, on that motion and building up ourselves is clarifying all of those

things we've been talking about and involves the cops not just in a 35 foot view how does we operationalize that in our policing to pack the purse and is flowery language so the cops feel safe and physically and emotionally to make those encourages decisions but make that clear our purposes. >> thank you commissioner dejesus. >> i'm glad you're talking about that but one of the things that we're learning that the commands staff they have mandatory to like embrace this concept and implement the new use of force as well as the cit and have to do it set something up for the other i want to focus that the across the united

states with a letter that is very detailed regarding aspects of the cit which this department has embraced but aspects that have not on implemented and embraced during it process was chocolate i didn't but some certificate things we need to look at are the officers having 3 years training or accepting the cit program or on this to the academies or the recruits the team concept was talked about they recommended to have the team process and two people in place training was scenarios putting money where we are talking about the way with swat we need to put the scenarios so they train in terms of learning with the deesclation and making critical judgements we near doing that we need to look at if

if we do cit we need to implement that fully and put the money and train we have wonderful mental health people will have been volunteering we need to pay them and give them an stipend and include them in analyzing you know right now i know that the firearms analyze the officer-involved shooting but having the analysts analysis that like commissioner antonini tells us what we did wrong i mean and i also feel i've told many people in the communities i feel at that point certain districts that needs emergency train we can't wait until next year the bayview and others districts needs time and distance training this is something we need to look at you

can take that command staff and train them and look at it reporting i know we have the capacity to send the cit officer out the homeless people said something that going on i don't know in their deployed but we need to analyze what is happened and make better tactics and better training for high-risk communities putting your money where your mouth is and believe it or not we put a general orders we don't have one be one of the holes to put the cit before we say we need other tasers or other weapons but we need to fix that and put it in

place to be clear. >> (clapping.) >> and so there's a lot of things i think that really should have priorities i think you guys should prioritize the issues we're not have that come back at us again. >> i'll jump in on the passenger side ph.d and 3 classes a year now pushing people through the deesclation is built into the rank you go and shot and learn about times and distance and force options there are scenarios where you know quite frankly you're introduced to situation you don't shoot not a fast training where your leon

you have options rather than firearms and other ways to deescalate around shooting. >> is that for the sergeants and everybody. >> that's for everybody going through with regards to the rank and file officers i got ♪ job a a little over a week ago i will introduce myself to the watch and various packs to the departments and volunteered to teach i know most of them but introducing myself as their chief acting chief for now and one of the things i'll do is introduce a q and a session for all of in them they can ask questions about the use of force and those subjects most of them a members of poa and discussed the policy i want to talk to them and found out concerns and try to dispel the rumors

ultimately this boyle down to push it cross the tackle the situation are with a thought of everyone making it outs but the other things the things we've discussed with in place or in process of could go that now this is part of reform initiative from the cops doj office looufkt the best practices and they're letting us know some of the things they've identified as jack said earlier we're in the process of fixing things identified and as we go along and not waiting for the final documents be drafted >> what about this high-risk to the bayview and the areas we're seeing a lot of the shadowing. >> the problem with that statement is there is you know

what happens when someone from the tenderloin makes their way into the north beach area and you deal with that person we're struggling that outs and bringing people from everywhere san francisco is a diverse city but people that mental health issues they are everywhere we're pushing this out and want the training everywhere we are taking people you said the team concept we were closer it and sending people from policing up to seattle with a model program to see what they're doing and address that we have our negotiation team their roving around the city and have almost 100 percent save rate with deesclation practices before deadly force is used and one loss a chp issue on the bay bridge they're now monitoring a

radio and finding to responds i monitor the air the other day i heard you know a unit responding to a call of a they call it an 8 hundreds personal out of control in a garage i waited and wade and directed a cutting officer to responds it was deescalated the person was ultimately issued and mental health detention and end well, that's what we have to think of what we get the calls in the first place are the people are the proper training recordings 0 those particular calls that's the piece we're working on now and part of piece we have to have in place while we train everyone right now a force training with over 5 hundred people are cit trained by the goal to get everyone but quite frankly we have a ton of

things that are doing this they can on this do so many classes but quite frankly we have the funds and facility and the officers in place just the professionals and this is not something we can do by bringing anyone in those are folks that are expert if in their fields and the ph.d. >> we say had a meeting to discuss where the department is versus where some folks like it to be around the officers i think that sam is here from the oracle and with prior meetings and thank you commissioner mazzuco and commissioner wong

who brought up the short time with weapons and protocols to make sure flare a quasi to track and chief suhr had in place i think a sheet again i'll sorts of butch this some yeah. all right. don't good we're having the technology people enter that sort of forum. >> in 2000. >> no, but in will be tracked. >> yanlt that is microsoft 2000 the president that meeting is rescheduled on the 19 to with the new chief and invite commissioner mazzuco a number of things you're talking about are ongoing and also including having an academic partner and looking at the xrit and initial could have but i think that will be good to participate in that. >> anything else for captain hart and anything further from

chief chaplain. >> anything else. >> any questions for the chief. >> it is come it's coming i promise were okay hearing none, then sergeant, next line item. >> item 3 occ directors report to allow the director to report on occ activities and make announcements. >> good evening director joyce hicks. >> good evening commissioner president loftus and chief chaplain the occ is in the process of phil several vacancies finally the ab one senior investor list was certified and have the authority to fill 3 vacancies we will be hiring from that list 3 senior investigators. >> additionally authorized to hire one 8 is line investigator

position and been looking at resumes for a temporary fill of a 105 is information systems business analysis assistant position and we will be making a hiring decision within the next several weeks we have just filed an 8177 attorney vacancies with someone from the police commission and the police department john formerly an attorney at police department and at the appropriate time i will have john alden appear at the police commission we agreed that will be he very busy evening this evening. and cops will be spending a lot of time with the office of

citizens complaints they will be enduring several staff members at the office of citizens complaints to see how our investigations mesh but with the police department >> i believe that that concludes my remarks. >> any questions for director hicks. >> commissioner dejesus. >> i did get some calls your phenomenon that your systems were down. >> i got a call your tell systems were down for two days is that accurate. >> unfortunately commissioner dejesus that's accurate the occ phones did go down for two days last week there was a power failure in the evening at the 25 ms in the office building

our approximately the power came in and out and in and out it did blow out the occ phones they were repaired for our departments we used cell phones. >> i was wondering how to make complaints but other alternatives they can go online i educational to go make sense complaints when the system is down. >> that's correct commissioner dejesus containments go online additionally they can come to the occ offices and have a interviewer in person and they can go to any administration building to file a complaint or in a field with an overhead an

individual can file a complaint with the occ we work hard to get those phones back up and worked with the department of information services they were a part that had to be ordered and we're up and running again. >> one of the things i'll appreciate i saw your system was down can you let the public know they can make anonymous complaints people didn't want to go down there and couldn't reach you it is something we should put out there again so people understand. >> again commissioner dejesus and members of the commission and public individuals can make unanimous complaints and the occ will protect that confidentiality and you don't have to be a citizen to file a

complaint with the office of citizens complaints more do you have to be it violated individual with the interact with the police departments or police officer some complainants have filed complaint because they saw something on youtube or something on the television and we received overseeing complaints and investigate those complaints. >> if you don't mind when you're filing an honest complaint can you do it in person or over the phone over the internet i don't know how that works you are to show up in person. >> again commissioner dejesus an unanimous complaint can be filed in the same way dunn online or done by snail mail or any eel to the occ

a number of possibilities for filing an anonymous complainant. >> commissioner wong. >> thank you director hicks i'm wondering at a future police commission can you give us an overhead budget for the next season a general idea of it comes up every year i know that the okay is shorts in terms of performing it's dude whether equipment to watch the body camera footage or people to analyze it a general idea of the budgets ask and what we should be advocating for in terms of what you'll need to have the oak function. >> thank you very much commissioner wong and while i have presented in the past the occs budget ask and also presented that mayor ed lee

provided in his budget one wants $8 million to the occ over the next two-year budget to increase the staff by 20 percent, to provide the occ with professional services money as for transcription services the investigation no more than has to transcribe their own interviews on their own and the occ is also asked for additional vehicle and for additional equipment computer equipment and so that the viewing of the body camera foaming will be seamless. >> thank you. >> you're welcome any furthers questions for director hicks par

sergeant, next line item. >> item 3-d switzerland of the items for consideration of future meeting special. >> go ahead sorry. >> special use of force on june 8th and cafe city college san francisco 5043 listen avenue and june 15th grattan elementary school obtain grattan street. >> we've done in thorough xhoermz and one major item on the agendas so folks can learn the issues and a chance for the commission to hear from the public those are scheduled for the 8 and 15 he did note today that there were a jirj report for the crime lab and address that to the agenda and practical i know we'll be on the use of

force but the commission needs to here the finding from grand jury and activities with the african-american recruitment penalty to hear from some of the folks with a community collaboration and not done by the department and learn from that schedule that chief in one of your reports that would be helpful and colleagues anything commissioner dejesus. >> i'd like to puts on the agenda a report on the status of cit d go a. as an action item and set up a subcommittee it is important 0 work on the cit d go and some people wanted a report and perhaps from the subcommittee i think the cit is critical to the installation and to have in the completed is it

is not rights it needs to be done and the second thing when i was looking at the processed i asked for a motion to sever the department bulletin on tasers it was in committee at a point i forgot what happened but - anyway while lemon get this straight while the use of force was sent to be worked on i was - i wanted it served and wanted to vote whether or not to have tasers as part of policy and i'd like to put only action item an important next wee week we sever the tasers support policy. >> (clapping.) >> i think we may be have this meeting but i think we need to have many debate and it was clever and separate smarts to

have the department bulletin to continue to talk about severing the bulletin. >> anything further colleagues i'm sorry, sir public comment and to clarify items 3 a and 3-d welcome back. >> let me explain what cops that comes again and again and again that stands for community oriented policing services and cops has from authority to investigate what they do is waste of time now since you have the internet and your directing to the acting chief do this and that and do whatever i have reason to writing and detailed maybe 4 hundred page report to be put on the website because

cops have not done go the first meeting held at marshall was a flop doss because no outreach was done and the second meeting he would say in the mission that was successful the third meeting was a flop and keep on talking about cops and going to washington, d.c. who pays for that we pay for that and cops through the community so we invited cops to the oscar grand the mario woods justice for mario woods coalition we invited the cops they said oh, no, we don't want to come there they did come and the tv cameras were there and we told them don't waste of time don't wasted our money and cops habit of inviting people to washington and you go to washington you're like the

washington crowd believe me don't waste of time and finally i'll advise you commissioners as all, all of you should resign sects of 15 minutes and talk to the point like you give me 15 minutes and by 7 o'clock we should be out 37. >> thank you. next speaker. >> your comments are two hours. >> welcome back. >> commissioners again, i'm edwin very have 3 points discussed one is not mentions the contingency needs to have binding input who the next police chief an intern chief bindings i don't want the communities to have a say and provides the buttons we're talking about they sit on the subcommittee 1, 2, 3 seats with

binding but the with the 3 candidates and sent to the mayor, i you have the authority and number two you reason we need the captain that is willing to stand up to the poa at the end of the day that's what we're stopping the reforms in the city and need someone that is willing to stands up up to the poa and number it 23 i'm curious on this commission is aware of a meeting at 10:00 a.m. with the latino leadership tomorrow. >> i'm aware great the communities is not aware of it this meeting shouldn't took place we're asking the community latino leaders their latino members not asked to meet i believe meet with the chief that's not how it works the community needs to have a is who is going to be be at the meeting and whether it is you presenting the reforms the

communities has a plan on how to present the reforms and come to you and offer those reforms but you'll not having secret meeting in the bayview where unquote unquote latino leadership when the folks were not invited to the meeting that's not how we'll move forward i ask to you school this meeting and happy to talk about what the next meeting will be held and bring the reforms to have that discussion thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> male i'm tom i'm back okay. where's my list okay talking about the committee subcommittee that is picking the examines phenomenon the new chief even though this is i

strongly urge to have to people present to the mayor in the in the current sfpd we need someone from outside to clean house you'll have to give within inside person try to not have that be a corrupt cop you'll do it operationally is presenting the mayor with 3 good choices make them good i appreciate the subcommittee didn't pick the last two chiefs that didn't workout i'll stop criticizing the subcommittee what else do i have to say the poa wants a cops cop we had that that did work we need a people's cop to be the chief they can put him in charge of poa excuse me for yelling

what else oh, i'll quote jane kim who had the courage and political foresight to do the outbid and hear office has the following statement for the top brass a culture of protecting the city families that's corruption by the way, what about the police department leadership entrust in every neighborhood not one set of rules for city hall establishment anticipate another for everyone else that is the root of problem that is going on in the city for at least the of years i'm aware and probably for many decades prior this is your chance to finally change it please do so thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> herbert wiener. >> i'm sure that the police chief o those top folks agree

rank has no privileges on this responsibilities that was maids by evans the expanding officer of the second raider battalion in world war ii i'd like to suggest for the next meeting that mental health professionals show up that includes analysis and psychiatrists from usf people and criminalists one time a psychoanalysis is deceased when a policeman fires his weapon that's. >> sign of failure now i don't know if i agree with that entirely i think the police have a difficult times there's a statement better to be tried by 6 than cards by 6 i do think that mental health professionals need feedback here

i think outside the box is very important there are psychology aspects of the use of force and we need to weigh it from all sides thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> welcome back. >> thank you my name is magic i first of all, want to thank commissioner dejesus for your encourage in saying what needs to be said and i want to especially thank you. >> (clapping.) >> because you're the first people that not limited to something went wrong with louis killing thank you for that. >> that was encourages i have to say that by the way, somebody can get commissioner turman a cup of coffee he's been falling asleep it might help to

get our attention i want to say that mr. chaplain you started out our end here it helps to look at the person not on the screen it really will be appreciated you didn't mention jessica williams the first one that happened that day everyone here do we know that she was killed by saying her name can we all is a hero name jessica williams she was forgotten in our report you didn't say her name no community meeting you didn't like the way that was run the officers leave weapons at the door we actually talk to each other how about that now i also want to say that greg suhr is only been praised

singles he left office by public officials on this then praised and under his watch homophobic text and these officers are with us not taken to task and murder and afterward r manufacture and the day after he came out and defend those none in the public is talking about that what did he gets asked to - >> thank you your time is up. >> >> (clapping.) >> >> next speaker. >> welcome back. >> so i want to echo is sentiments of some of my succumb radicals the community the meeting didn't know b.c. about only a few chosen that is not cool and office building some of my sentiments i want this to stick regardless of what type of

training you're talking about you cannot train someone not to be racist you can't train common sense you can't train intelligence, you can't train compassion and can't train yes, ma'am paths and humiliate you have to take into consideration the human elements to be it is a joke if you don't otherwise you know because this is like cutting the tops off of weeds and not get to the root we're not getting anywhere. >> thank you. next speaker. >> (clapping.) >> >> good evening and welcome. >> good evening i'm karen an anti - interesting and post blogger and advocate and a member of justice for mario woods coalition and a founder of san franciscans our please accountability and mom and

mentor to hundreds of young adults that have radio in common with mario woods went to is national gun violence awareness day the 6 anniversary since sfpd executed mario in front of school children and eyewitnesses it will take sfpd judicially to kill two more people for world action to occur the rule of this body to have accountability to the san francisco police department open your watch sfpd is rouge and racist and violent you need to hold yourselves accountable i can't call 911 the officer didn't send a text message you didn't attend the final hearing the blue ribbon panel only who were at jeff adachi justice submit you're considering the

use of force with national experts on use of force the whole unauthorized units community and nun of the usf do more harm where the doctor presented about racism and violence that needs to be on the agendas her presentation about racism and police brutality needs to come under considerations this needs to be your focus. >> thank you. next speaker. >> welcome back. >> thank you, again so many things were you said in that presentation about sales pitch of hope which in my opinion is saleable. >> the recruitment program needs a lot of attention poa is controlling that

all across the country if we narrow down or applicants to one percent of those who apply how come they have the same last names and come from the same home towns and known each other from boy scouts to church and members of the emerson's society that is the american society it dominates the police units all over the country started in the 1840s something wrong someone needs to look at the criteria not the percentage of applicants that get in and judge i'm not sure judge - >> see were any vote is going commissioner wong asked to compare the data i'm in the

affirmative action and been for 40 years you determine the applicant flow the tracking process how many people applied what were the geography graphics and who came to the first and second screening and who passed the poa test before then they became police officers so, please stay only thing that that the it is critical otherwise the crime of african-american other officers will be looked at as you know, what it will be looked at as unqualified affirmative action playing the race cards let's do it right thank you. >> next speaker >> welcome back. >> tom i want the police chief to succeed i think the whole city does

we want our police department not to be us but we this is a low spot in the city all the way around the bends not here in the mr. johnson i mean we all know that tasers if you're close enough to shoot a tasers have a fishing net through a fishing net even madison bum gardens could teach people we know we have mental health problems and not trained to be mental health guardians we need a practices when we get from control to send them someplace we have a we've got a lot more work to do

as far as deescalating if a two team police units one person not wearing a belt and they do accident approaching they don't want to get themselves in troubt not get themselves in danger not circulates nothing in a guy or woman comes builtless i've got a badge we want to help the police chief greg suhr got fired a policeman pulled a gun the sergeant fireside the chief he was on forum and in the affair of germany no police killed anybody thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker. >> welcome back.

>> again, i'd like to echo what in any friends francisco said about the process it is designed to bore us to death those in the audience and to keep us from saying what we would like to say if you don't beaked consider changing the rules a we can comment you know more rapidly you know coming here every wednesday and staying to 9 o'clock is not my ideas of a good times i'll echo the gentleman's lack of trust with the subcommittee doing the search a 3 person subcommittee is not going to be near as open a process as all of you guys are involved and you know the you know the talk about how you'll be involved, etc. i'm not buying if it you're trying to restore trust need an open process it is

the subcommittee and the communities input and linda 0 spoke that that very well where it the community you guys coming out and doing dog and pony shows for whoever shows up is not communities input we have a strong invested interest in the new chief those of us in the activist community guess what that was us got rid of the chief not you marching one thousand strong by the hunger strickers and the mario woods coalition in the mayor's faces, etc., etc. it was us you guys didn't do that we need to be at the table in a real way when the new chief is chosen and finally as far as the gentleman that spoke to cops

this why we don't trust that process it is a hope change stuff - >> thank you, nancy pelosi. >> >> good evening and welcome. >> i'm dbe i can't - they tried to protect the city i think their problems that should be fixed but i don't think that is safe to send them out unlike a mission without any protection for themselves if there as dangerous person there and can't say protect themselves so i'd like to thank them for at least trying to protect our city thank you. >> thank you, very much. >> (clapping.) >> >> next speaker.

>> welcome back. >> yeah. a modified suggestion on the tasers approval process or these never mind interest since it's mostly been in the bayview and the mission pope police murdered people my suggestion you hold meetings on the tasers in the mission and let the people say if they feel more safe in the police have tasers. >> further comment on a through d coupling up and week. >> my name is adrian i noticed for the next meetings on june 8th and 15 on the use of force i was wondering if you're going to have those meetings in the bayview and in the mission you know districts the two areas highly impacted from the use of

force. >> thank you any furthers public comment on 3 a through 3-d. >> welcome back. >> i hear a lot of things coming from you guys i don't want to see sugar cannot stuff not poison i want to see results now a month ago i gaffe you guys 9 copies or killing them safely a month ago you guys should be able to watch you will have you should have been able to watch what happened to the 9 copies i hadn't out here's a copy for i want you to take it home and watch it and give to the vice

presidents for owning. >> i'm going to watch it. >> sergeant bring me that dvd thank you. >> i'll watch it and report back thank you. next speaker. >> hi my name is rolsz again, i saw the documentary and shaken visually shaken by the tasers in the hands of the policy 5 hundred fatalities i want to say i listen to i, i feel like i'm at a meeting not inclusion but i'm just saying in the president i'm surprised you need to work with your commissioners and we're not ungrateful he feel that is what is happening it is helping you to move ahead and not let the commissioners know

what was going on i thoughts you were better than that i'm saying it is the inclusion instead of division >> thank you. next speaker. >> come back. >> it can't say be said too often that the use of force policies of this commission and that police department have been failures awful a lot of rhetoric and deception and mission information when innocent people are killed by the police that thrills that you're not implementing the deesclation that is so clear you don't have to repeat it more than once ♪ atmosphere until and unless you ever, fix the system that lets that happen until there is affordability with police that kill people without justification you are prosecutors for murder and

unless that happens you shouldn't never ever talk about tasers before this commission that had is ton taken off the table that clearly are instruments of e excavation innovates deesclation they cause more violence than they solve when police departments get those reports the shootings there's not did you observe but up why you would be considering this now and repeatedly makes in a sense just doesn't make sense having you have an agendas at the mayor the behest follow orders from the mayor no later than what how bad that that advise is and the policies and taylor's are the worst that has come out of mayor's office >> any furthers public comment

on item 3 a through d. >> i have to say something before i've lived in the city for thirty years and i'm appalled looking at this this whole thing is a joke right now i see that i've been working $200 i've been a flight tablet for united airlines and this is absurd you're not paying attention. >> why not look at someone when in their talking about that's considered appropriate in the united states of america i don't know that you have a computers until i heard her say it to something else? my first here i'm talking and no one is looking at me their luke away and over here it is clear you guys are doing this as a show this is not for the public this is not for our input it is not for anything we have to say

this is a show and now i know i was under the envision i lived in 0 progressive city i was proud to live in san francisco and now going home to my city i'm retired one year i have 48 seconds to tell you i'm disguftsd spending time in my city i've lived in 4:30 years disgood enough with the people on the street and discuss gusted how many police are proortd around my neighborhood in bernal heights and all of a sudden 24 talk about extra care i see more, more copies on every scene and more people arresting people or arresting people from crossing the street you put enough people out there we'll all break the law we're all what

mentally ill. >> any mother comments on items 1920 a through d. >> welcome back. >> i believe that i cou finally finish when i wanted to say as mentioned non-nobody wants to hear about my sons case that is disgrateful i have right to finish with the transparency morbidity with the question when something happens with a loved one and communicate to

that person for 4 days and you start calling all hospitals all police departments. >> counties and jails co-sponsor norz office and the police department including the san francisco police department and all i mean the police departments we have nothing to do with the appearance of this person has nothing to do with with such a person and officers with telling you your son is if he wanted to call you he would call you it is easier if he is andrew's this person says john in the department knowing what is happened to any son he is

into custody in almost traumatized condition he say if any son is able to call me, i'm looking for any son for four days and the san francisco police department on the police department says to me - >> sounds like a complaint of police misconduct we have a have ever from the office of citizens complaints. >> i'd like to refer you to the senior investor with the office of citizens complaints can you identify yourselves and foul with that gentleman to insure if there is follow-up they can do he's right there i'm sorry this is what happened and please he's right there since you came

tonight let's hook you up come an 3 a through 3-d. >> welcome and good evening. >> thank you for allowing me to comment i want to talk about the nature of communities in san francisco and the fact that police are dedicated to protect and serve us i also know that people are separated out from the community as dangerous as criminals even before their tried they are identified as dangerous and criminal and it is that us against them philosophy that opens the door to using instruments of torture and weapons totally unregulated by any agency against that portion of our communities

this has to stop if we're going to be talking about community policing we have to be talking about the entire community everyone needs to be protected and served no matter how the police may feel about them this is not their job to kickoff people who need to be operated from us i want to say that tares are weapons one more weapon to be used against people in the community and this is unconscionable we don't need more weapons and other public

comment. >> good evening i'll not try to say names a couple points i know you're having communities meetings and i think that it is really important when you have meetings meeting many place large enough to hold people i've been to many there are lines out the door why not in the board of supervisors chambers because those are issues that people care about and people coming to the meetings that's one recommendation there's a lot of talk about cit and city of berkley as an

interesting and wonderful model up worked there for seven years they have a model they sends mental health employees outs with officers and often the people end up being in the hands of mental health workers workers a great model the other thing 53 we should consider how to deal with officers in crisis a lot of the use of force has been because officers are in crisis i worked with a group of people probation officer develop police intervene where someone might end much up seriously injured in

the city of new orleans it is important to bring that to the city any further public comment on 3 a through 3-d. >> welcome back. >> i want to on these issues talk about the staech for the police chief it is important but i think that whether this intern chief wants to stay it had to be someone that changes the cultural from the top do you think i'm disturbed about the racist text message and that's been diminished by the poa that really, really bothers me as a public servant i wouldn't think about texting that has last year, i think i testified to the commission i had too bad

combrnts with two different sets of cops that showed me there still needs a culture change in top to bottom and better screening and recruitment and people with other skills and people that know you don't talk about people like inhuman beings and a couple of weeks ago 26 hours after chief suhr stepped counsel another horrible encounter i'll send to the occ i want you see how overlays is - i want kur they'll be that disreplacement i don't know how they're treating on the people but a chance they're not getting the message they feel they can

treat people any way they want and change the culture and lots of training and some people need to go and anything that send racist text messaging i don't want the taxpayers paying their salaries and so forth thank you . >> (clapping.) >> the public comment is closed. on item 3 o through 3-d hooendz oh, i'm sorry yes come on last public comment welcome back. >> i guess one the problems i'm having this shouldn't the full body decides who is on the whole committee when will we be able to see.

>> you do with you want the poa will hijack whatever the community wants and we get stuck with donald trump or something it is just scant respond, huh? >> it is just all it says if i

ever have encounter with the police that board not responsible for the blood of citizens that you think are in the street i was thinking but my evident the police officer mistook me as a white woman yeah, it is come to our body i century the video i should post that on youtube he had his name and badge number all concealed and this office is out like this in daylight. >> any you further general public comment on this matter come on again opportunities for public comment on the remaining matters four and five thank you hijacking in any again my one

contem comment is prepared to a meeting will lower the frustration told her research what you want to say and practice it and get it down to two minutes and then come here the beauty of a democracy and this group is that everybody gets to speak the down side is that everybody gets to speak no matter how badly and our job as members of the public just like you commissioners and our new chief to listen and we listen in different ways yes, we listen in different ways some people are animated and some people are taught and some

people needs to be sleeping and not interrupt others and see that is spanish for bad manners and many any event practice before you get here because i've got to listen to you, too thank you. >> thank you okay public comment is closed. i've been requested from my colleagues a 5 minute personal needs break we've been going since 5:30 and new sergeant, next line item. >> item 4 update in dhr on status of body worn camera with the meeting and confer process and discussion and possible action. >> colleagues so you'll recall by away of background i think that is may 11 i asked this item

to be on on the june 1st agenda and hopefully, a resolution as we all know i think madam clerk, any other business before this committee? were here earlier were not aware that is not a new policy that has been a process but want to remind everyone this commission in last year gave the department a 90 day deadline to come up with a draft policy by consideration for this commission there were 6 meetings they were public meetings and minutes of each minutes available on the police commission under body cameras you can look at those minutes and the meetings railroad 3 in june and one in july and one in august the various stakeholders many of whom are reporting here tonight i believe confused representatives from our office of citizens complaints, obviously the police department participated and the bar

association of san francisco i see yolanda here the sergeant from the president of office for justice and is police officers association as well as a community member and representatives from the human rights commission and if i'm forgetting anyone the bar association and the aifls was invite to participate i think provided some written correspondence so through that process the commission get a draft policy we took to a series of public meetings and ultimately voted on a draft that went into what is call the meeting and confer folks to update the process i'll note the commission voted on the draft process on december 2nd of the 2017 now here adjoin first of 2016 and you all should have

received in your packet the proposed resolution of one particular issue that is the issue around when officers are allowed to review the processes a modification we'll hear more about tonight so without without further ado, under graham if the department of human resources we'll like to hear from you good evening, commissioners with the defer with the meeting and confer i'm pleased to present for your consideration this evening and possible action a commodity agreement on the commissioner body worn camera policy the city negotiating team and

the police officers association reached an agreement last friday and approved yesterday by the poas executive board and approved by the commission that lose the department to begin the body worn camera operational process within 60 days i don't think there is a single person in the room who didn't share the belief that san francisco need this program to starts as quickly as possible that's what we're workings teared plan and ceremony we need the so the public and commissioners know what happened in a critical incident a no better tool to hold the police officers and the public who they interact accountable first of all, in the policy that was

passed by as out to the meet and confer process northeasterly december we've changed two paragraphs and adam another one discrete issues not changes other than grammar to that these and it so what does it do in viewing norms when a overhead views the footage for an interview this compromise agreement forces the police officers involved in officer-involved shootings act into custody death or involved in a criminal investigation to provide an initial statement before be able to view any body worn camera footage so what is this initial statement it is a statement actually

interview but a chance for the overhead to briefly summarize the activity that the officer was under in question naermdz the nature of the police work at the time, the actions that required the overhead officer to use forced and the action in respond to whatever the stimulus and again, the initial statement will be taken and investors prior to any footage viewed by the overlays once the officer the overhead will be allowed to look at the footage and investigators conducting the criminal investigation or aaron peskin an administrative investigation will interview the officer in detail the initial

statement will always be in the investigative record by requiring the statement of the aspects the officers conduct before the officers loot footage they'll be unable to look at the crucial testimony to have it align with the xhoerm and at the same time the officers recall and the adrenaline not fool prove and their recognitions are 4r0ib89 refreshed by loorth the footage those statements will be in the investigative record i probably need to remind the commission if not the puck the city charter the brown act and the public safety officers bill of rights act to and combine to

create rights for police officers not enjoyed by other public employees and this is both subtly and the charter that any dispute between the city collectively at successors representing the officers must be submitted to arbitration if we don't reach agreement and the the police officers association requests the arresting tradition through could be disputes with the being provided with officials disciplinary rules or covered with the fundamental rights go to the heart and integrity of an investigation from the negotiation ends up at

at elmhurst pass we end up with the process from the union decided to take it a process that delays the implementations up to a year and possibly long run in litigation so the events that of the weeks and months have highlighted the needs for common ground on the issue last friday the city negotiating team including acting chaplain at director of dpfrz myself and other command staff worked diligently with the mrofrlsz union and a 5 hour negotiation with the policy in the draft policy for your review and consideration we submitted this evening and fair balance and recognizable broach to the viewing issue in general allows the department to get the body

worn cameras on its officers without further delay and walk through the public is waiting for this to happen i'm available to answer any questions i have commander moser that handles more technical issues. >> thank you commander moser and questions colleagues co-jump in commissioner dejesus. >> i didn't vote for the policy that went to the arresting tradition process that was the even at the discretionary the chief he look at this and tell you no existence to date it is overboard and not clear and very unclear in fact, when you read it i mean

i shot that is two brief i mean they see the video we talk about use of force and a lot of criteria and the use of force of policy we talk about the number of the subject or other officers presents and the strength of the officers or the suggest any prior contacts, any potential weapons, any immediate that's not to the safety of the officers and the proximity and the access and the types of weapons to the subject and the mind available and the availability of other officers and severity of the crime a lot of stuff in the use of force and i i have to tell you i don't know what that means a brief summary a one sentence summary

no clear definition and they get to very much the video its critical we're talking about rebuilding trust and the majority of public testified they don't want the officer to see this video we're talking about officer-involved shootings where the person is no longer around and maybe died not having a testimony but sufficient time i forgot the third won those are important factors then watch the video and the statement and watch the video and subject to an interview i assume interviewed i don't know who is that by the assume internal affairs it is not spelled out one of the things that people don't like them they need to be clear and precise language and defined terms none

that of that here and the very last thing from the public safety segment i don't know what that means i mean, i didn't like the first one you know that one is discretion of the chief we don't know we have chief suhr and another chief says that everybody needs to see the video no real policy but that is already past the people live with that negotiated piece on that but that i'm telling you i had that explained to me 3 times i certainly, this language is not language - i don't know what that means.

>> commissioner wong. >> is there a question i have two of the statements i'll respond to so the initial statement this is defined the core those are few in number but a core of - why did many cause of officer to take the action that's the core it is somebody as robotic as you've described commissioner i'll hope the department trains the investigators to reject that a back and forth q and a statement the officials has the right to council and to rise the information will rise to a level

whether a criminal investigation or administrative investigations irks whether an officer inrevokes his or her right not to testify and commander moser can speak but for the for the most part the criminal investigators being observed by representatives from the da's offices and the internal affairs in the officers inrevokes not to give a statement then the administrative investors will take over the investigation through the testimony through the criminal depending on what rights if any the officers invoke and commissioner there

really isn't anything in the current policy into the level of details those exist in training or protocol a simple step in the ongoing process not evaluated but not evaluated to date and not in the policy we're looking at the policy and what it makes that the policy your policy. >> since then more discussion we've gun delving into the use of force and met with the cops if men looked at the comments they made the comment we need an independent investigation outside of police department but since we don't have that right now that has melgd my concern what exactly what exactly - i

don't think we should go into this hoping that someone will do a robotic sentence and write something i mean is that doesn't matter something in place where everyone knows. >> chief chaplain just could confirm or clarify the public safety do you know anything about that's a statement that every overhead is required to give at the scene i fireside 3 shots that way we will look for someone down the block not hit that's been a staple for the public you're taken somewhere

offsite that initial statement you're talking about is that's always been volunteer and 100 percent compliance on at least my years i haven't heard someone saying they'll not do it and as explained earlier by mr. brand a statement about what you saw and promoted you to shoot your weapon and generally had happened at this point and after that a tight look at the circumstances surrounding the discharge and sitting in the room the public didn't know about the process it is a daunting process you're sitting there go generally a member of the poa and sitting there there's a district attorney a district attorney investigator and two homicides investigators asking questions and internal affairs is monitoring that

interview and volunteer on the officers part he's getting a full go q and a and i'll i have to tell you you know george gascon investigators asked pointed out kwtsz questions not a cakewalk after that is done our subject to an internal affairs endures your compelled to we are all the questions now your civil right there a separate interview and we'll not compelled to do the interview that process looking at the earlier drafts is more comprehensive and requires for the voluntary side and participate in that process and you know looking at it from that lens it is the best way to get a middle road for the public's interest and for the officers interest the bottom line an open process and a living document

and going to be open to review down the road and my concern as the chief we need to be able to have a look at what happened on that baby alley there are no - i think that affords us the best opportunity with the volunteer statement prior to watching that is something to watch and something that gets us a lot of mileage and may change as far as getting things on the officers implement it is a compromises. >> why not define the initial statement hiv and the chief was describing the public safety statement and the the initial statement and again that is an agreed upon deal with the poa

we're not let someone is that we saw a guy show the assistant alley. >> again, it didn't say that if you're not the chief and the 0 other chief lets it in. >> i'm not involved in that process and investigators that are hard with the investigation when twhe here's the thing you don't answer that question you don't look at that video. >> i guess i'm looking at contract law dollars and i say give me $5 i have no prove you give 5 if that's what you say just define the terms but you know what i mean clarity here. >> i think at the end of the day i think