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>> supervisor peskin: thank you, commissioner. >>[applause] >> supervisor peskin: commissioner moore anything like that animal go to public comment? >> commissioner moore: since commissioner richards took more than 2 min. oh make it simple get my position about this is quite clear. i'm in support of where you are and my simple comment would be without the ability to enforce the laws and we've come to that point. >> supervisor peskin: thanks. with that, we'll go to public comments. i will call sets of speakers in the water i received them. [calling names]. >> testifier: good morning. the real question is, why should be in the be allowed to lift unregistered units on the
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platform. the current system of enforcement that relies on neighborhoods to turn in neighbors. i'm the president of the coalition for san francisco neighborhoods. i often hear stories about things like this with air b&b. i think one thing to look at with the platform is first you are asking for an arbitrary number of $1000. i say, why not 10,000 , one not 50? they are breaking the law. they're breaking the law legally. the neighborhoods believe that the [inaudible] siphoned units from the unit driving up prices and
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tightening availability. the existing system is ruining the character of our neighborhoods throughout the city and creating many empty units as stated earlier. all air and b&b rentals should have a valid san francisco registration number before posting them online. from the city rentals would seem illegitimate to listing services would be required to respond with details about these properties within one business day or face big signs. thank you very much. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: hello. my name is ed bell. i live in san
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francisco for almost 60 years and have lived in my own home for over a third. my home is a very special place to me. it's where my only child was born, where i raise my child, where my mother spent the final weeks of her life before passing on sushi to be surrounded by people do love to. in short, my home has a life [inaudible]. as with many seniors my income has decreased substantially over the last few years and about a year ago i told my wife got him very happy to tell you my house is not pursuing the only reason it's not for sale is because the income i generate through air b&b. instead of two old people tottering around the house reminiscing about the good old days, unfortunately share mine with interesting adventures, were getting satisfaction from seeing the city my wife and i have love for a lifetime. i've been fortunate in anyways. i'm very familiar with computers that use computers at work i can tell you i'm completely air b&b compliance. however, many of the air b&b hosts are seniors like myself and are intimidated
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by computers. i know many of my senior friends would really like to become air b&b hosts and share their homes but they do not because they cannot deal with the computer requirements. i don't mind paying taxes. i make money on air b&b and i think i should pay taxes on that money. however, i am upset about all the forms i have to file them in computer-generated forms, it really cost more to figure out then the income generated. so, in short, please take my wife, my friends, other seniors like me into account when you make these decisions. thank you for your time >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. and after [calling names]. >> testifier: good morning. my name is jordan davis in the material from from the
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tenderloin and i urge you to support 1604 23. which would actually hold short-term rental houses and platforms responsible for gentrifying our neighborhoods. this care if the need was machined has been scared passing new regulation has been saying that is fine too job i took it and apocalyptic propaganda [inaudible]. as lgbt primark has just begun let's reflect this new pride in gentrification let's think about the disabled transgender woman who needs double and the black payment among any of these others and how they could end up homeless and possibly incarcerated were dead because of rich techie man children and then go to think becoming and innkeeper is more profitable. i do not know how many lgbt people have been displaced by these but [inaudible] in our former homes as we support air
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b&b's lies and you're no better than her lgbt people than donald trump or pat mccord. please, go vote yes on this important bill. it's very reasonable and we depend on it. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning. i'm doug nielsen. i'm a home share host with one bedroom one bath private unit in my permanent residence. which i live full-time. i'm one of the approximately 3000 people registered. i think we all agree in the fact that this number is too low. i'm an unacceptable. it's also known the process is very cumbersome. it can be as long as three months, it takes up to three months or more to get registered in some cases. this is also unacceptable. the city
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must find a way to simple five this prospect there's no question about it. by now, there's another obstacle that has surfaced that makes the registration process and legalization of a business and issue. that is, as one whose registered and the other 1300 that have have received a 571 r that was sent to already starts asking them to submit a list of all the furniture, all equipment, everything they have in their units. the date they purchased it, the price they paid, the specific items and for me, i did this. turn it in, the total came to about $3000. i've items in my house in that room that i acquired back in 1984. items that have been gifted to me. so, the value came to about $3000. now, i am
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trying this and in with the depreciation this inmate get that saves was about $1000 in a garage sale. they're going to get $10 out of me and if you put that apply that to the other 1300 registered and get $13,000 for the city. this is not spending the resources and time and energy that made the city should do. so what i am suggesting is taking a money applying to the registration process to improve it make it better but don't spend the money and resources on sending out these types of forms. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning. my name is kathy. i may san francisco voter and a member of the debtor housing policy. as
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an organization need up of both renters and homeowners, we are tired of the political games that do nothing to address the housing crisis. this amendment is not the solution we need. they only create more red tape for the renters and homeowners who want to do the right thing. the city permit process needs to be streamlined to adopt 12 people are using online services like eight air b&b. if the average processing time is at least a month the current system is too burdensome for huge amounts of people rent a room in their house for two weeks or two weekends a year. that's what's fixed the process first. if you want to see more registration. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. and after, [calling names]
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>> testifier: good morning, chairman peskin president breed and supervisor tammy and 10 cameras that my name is kelly powers and him representing the hotel counsel san francisco. the hotel council is a nonprofit trade association that represents the hotel industry in san francisco. the hotel council supports the short-term rental legislation that is being discussed today. we believe required hosting platforms to verify that each of the units that listing on the site have a valid registration the city and county of san francisco. it is reasonable and necessary. it is reported that most unregistered short-term rentals are not renting their primary residences as the existing relations require. renting units in condominium buildings for homeowner associations do not allow short-term rentals tenants renting apartments without owner permission. the
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regulation being proposed were hoping sure that only legal short-term rentals will be included on hosting platforms. again, the hotel council supports the short-term rental legislation that is being discussed today and we encourage your support as well. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you ms. powers. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning cannot major in manila. either or both days with illegally operating twist hotel and this amendment would've avoided this situation by requiring them to register the most they cannot do because they're not eligible. i stayed there. on air b&b they offered to-i went back in and abstain for more than a year. i problems with hotel management or consulate trying to turn over rooms in order to rent them to torres and not taking care of their other responsibility to the resident tenants that were
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there. one of the issues they use the hotel management system with key cards, so you're automatically logged out if you didn't pay your bill every weekend 11 am which is against the rental code in san francisco. also, they charge me 15% hotel tax i paid more than $4200 over the course of a year in tax on what is supposed to be rent and i still have not been refunded that money. requiring air b&b to check their registration would've avoided this for me and other people. in addition to reserving those units which were supposed to be sro units and not poorest units for people needed them. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: thank you my name is angel sanders. a couple points i see beneficial to this. first of all, where i live, one of my neighbors is renting out his units and
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without him registering there's no way for me to bring up to the board that he is not doing so. so having this in place would help a lot of people like this could also, another benefit would be having people register if i'm looking for a place to move into, i can at least find out how many of the units around the are doing so. what i currently have come, like is that people are doing it on unlawfully and it changes the dynamic of a community. so, i think having this register would benefit everybody. also, used to do uber and i was in uber driver you can't just slap a u on a window and go drive around. this apostate i think this is kind of the same thing were you get a processing unit was doing what. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mr. santa cruz. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning. mine is karen casino and i'm a registered host. there are two
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reasons i think not to pass the legislation now. that we don't make the same mistake that we did last year, before there's time to assess the results of the current law, and the second, i think it is scares many host again to not register out of fear of what is to come. just like last year. in the meantime, the board could set up a short-term rental task force with major players coming up with recommendations for the board to consider. such as, differentiating between different types of short-term rentals. low use. for those hosts that only maybe do like someone said, a couple of weekends were maybe two weeks a year, they are not registering because that the registration cost a lot of money and they're not using it very much. also, there are people who are going sabbaticals were going extensive volunteering events
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and they may be old weight more than 90 days but san francisco is still the primary residence. there is also people who are work related absences like drivers, airline host, performers, and they may be a weight more than the 90 days due to their job hours, but there were still residence of san francisco. these categories could be created and legislation simple five bringing in more register house and also beef 14% hotel tax. i know that those with little faith in city bureaucracy are in very early thinking way too complicated for staff. well, i think san francisco could show the rest of the country how to do it right. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please.
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>> testifier: my name is-and we registered very early taken there was a right thing to do. i still think it's the right thing to do, but i think that the city is making the process tremendously intimidating in so many ways good most recent move by the assessor's office on 571- r having to itemize every item in the room or in the house, and the value and audit and one was obtained, etc., seems a bit ridiculous added to all the other things that the city has done up to now. to discourage people from listing. again, i
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repeat we were amongst the first to list and we were encouraging people to register, and i'll be damned if i would tell anybody to register now. i'll be damned if i registered under the current information that i have about the city requirements. criminal penalties supposedly [inaudible] $1000 a day, etc. seems a bit exorbitant and again, intimidating. having to for seniors having to deal with computers, i'm semiliterate computer wise, but even that in itself is difficult for a lot of seniors who are involved in this air b&b or other platforms. it seems that picking on air b&b platforms were other platforms are being ignored,, other platforms that are ready to sue rather than comply is very unfair. i believe there is
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too much hate being made out of politics rather than well-thought-out policy by too many of the supervisors. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, sir. next, [calling names] >> testifier: good morning. my name is eric and [inaudible]. my husband and i are hosts and register. but we feel very strongly that the registration as many as many on unintended consequences and [inaudible] to be prescribed. we believe in strong legislation for housing residents and to those that abuse the system from causing harm. we want to see other forms
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step forward to do more to help the city. there needs to be more time to make that happen. we also believe the city should simplify the process for hosts who rent that space just a few days a week a year. we encourage the city to develop a one step online registration process for hosts. the ever-changing rules and perform only confuse the process of more. including the newest tool that hosts must create an inventory of all their belongings right down to sheets, silverware, [inaudible]. i filled out my online form for my business license, which was due on may 31. [inaudible] license was issued in favorite.
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the form did not contain a phone number to answer questions of which i had several. i worry about the future of sharing and the proposal is passed. we fear it will only be to only more confusion for host. [inaudible]. it tramples critical online attraction and conflicts conflict with important federal laws. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning. thank you for lending your effect on kevin craigie district for voter and redshirt host and we have a new law and her in-laws stay out when they visit and the rest of the we host and really enjoying the experience i believe like others everybody should get registered and they should
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agree with a lot of your intent of what your time to compost. you know, threatening imprisonment in the county jail to move the housing crisis from our homes to the jail, that's one point. i think it just basically extreme in my opinion i think when he to work on solutions were the high-tech innovation and social tech capital of the. let's work with us which look for solutions i welcome to talk with anybody from vegas two, gated a issued a think this is just a bit extreme and were kind of the top tier industry of san francisco our hospitality and information communication technologies. i think some of this legislation is basically attacking the top-tier industries of our city. i could go on and on but i'll leave it at that. i would appreciate
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your peers and hope we can find solutions working together. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. i just want to point out to folks the section of the law with regard to criminal penalties to my that is actually been on the books since supervisor chiu, my predecessor, past the law. that is not in any way changing the legislation. that is the force. the legislation that is before us only adds hosting platforms to that provision in law could so, in addition to holding hosts accountable what supervisor campos legislation does, is also hold opposing platforms accountable. the civil and criminal penalty statute is the same statute that supervisor chiu introduced in 2014. thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: hi. my name is esther ricci. i'm district for voter. i'm one of the many who went through the painful and
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time-consuming process of registration to be in compliance with the city. i read this legislation and i find it very disturbing and highly punitive. it is basically and intends to implement proposition f which was defeated by san francisco voters last november. i don't see how somebody who has more than one listing because is renting more than one room in the house into going to jail regardless of its david chu were a new one, is going to encourage anyone to register. were demanding to have public information. there's many hosts, a single woman or retirees, or divorced that they don't like to have their
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information to anyone public. this legislation doesn't offer any solution to solve the housing problem. san francisco is known for being progressive and open minded, this legislation is very regressive and conservative jerk we should be a model of innovation and [inaudible]. please, do not pass this legislation. it is going to hurt many decent people who could not be in the city if it were not for renting out empty spaces. the of the actions have been going down since short-term rentals are up. i never heard any direct you to get person in these two years i have been coming here for the short-term rentals. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank
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you. [calling names]. >> testifier: hi. my name is jessica mullen. thank you for your time this morning. i live in sunny side and supervisor yee's district with my family. the law as written let us down. we need this legislation to address the problem weeks. personally. moved to sunny side several years ago and her neighbors were longtime san francisco family could overnight they were forced out by the landlord we found our selves living next-door to an illegal hostile wizard on air b&b. even imagine living next-door to someplace renting out room beds, individual beds at $30 a night 4-6 is a room in 1000 ft.2 house, with key goes on the door, no keys, no host anywhere to be found. they rang the doorbell in our house at all hours of the night waking up our young son which all parents know is really the
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worst. i called dbi, they cannot help it they told me they could not help me. i contacted ospf. they tried but they said they could not help me because they could not catch the host in the act. those were pulled on the listing during the day so city staff cannot find him and i be able to observe it again at night. my spirits is exactly why this legislation is needed. air b&b shopping list illegal units especially illegal hospitals cramming an individual residents in residential neighborhoods in the first place to complex permitting is a red herring. i appreciate all the legally redshirt host were here today, but frankly, this legislation is nothing to do with you. section 230 of the cba is a post and scared sat there at the city attorney pointed out at the beginning of this hearing. i also want to point out that any proposal from
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other supervisors to add provisions that apply to hosts a poison pills and i urge everyone to reject them. this legislation is great as is. it's needed. i urge you to support it. it's fair. it's practical. it's a minimum we should ask our citizens here in san francisco, including and i think especially, most bondable corporate citizens two bye-bye. please stand up for regular san francisco like me. >> supervisor peskin: thank you ms. malone. >>[applause] >> supervisor peskin: i want to it knowledge your bravery and leadership in appearing on the nbc bay area investigative units exposé on the abuses of short-term rental such as you experience. that was a i think, a helpful piece of public information and you did a public service in doing that. next speaker, please. >> testifier: jennifer-i think you know we are very supportive of this legislation already. i've even become friends with the apartment association staff
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while crafting this legislation. so, i think that is significant and shows the broad support we have. i know that air b&b set up an e-mail generator to expand and it was a very bizarre e-mail that said hosts would have to count all the forks in their houses and was no mention that this legislation is retargeted at the platforms themselves. it also didn't state the we know changes for current hosts. so if b&b continues to feed us lies and hide behind it hosts and this legislation will actually be good for the legitimate house is oh, cut out the bad actors. help more hosts will rise up and told the company to stop using them like ponds. i have a anecdote. we posted on our facebook page of a picture of a flyer that was posted in san francisco's chinatown those critical of air b&b. we normally get like 3000 views if were lucky. this 1.6
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million views. there's 10,000 comments on it. went around the work it was all the comments were negative against air b&b ready my point is, the whole world is watching you guys today. i hope you use your discretion and finally pass meaningful enforcement. >> supervisor peskin: thanks. i'm delighted this matter brought the tenants and landlords and the hotel owners and hotel workers together. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning. thank you for this legislation did my name is tessa wilborn long-term san francisco resident. we love our visitors, but we need to have taxes paid by appropriate parties. websites sold merchandise for a long time before state sales taxes were imposed on them. it's not fair to brick-and-mortar businesses to have sales taxes apply to them but not to where businesses. this analogy here. the san francisco can use all the money it can get and i would also
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like to point out this legislation only affects website host platforms, not individual hosts. who managed to find on their way to use the computer to put on their listing all kinds of photos and other things. but another key issue for me is the loss of rentals. three fourths of the affordable housing that-well let me start over. so, we have an a for the housing crisis. we build units, but we are seeing housing units to the addictions, to no-fault evictions, to use by short-term rentals. three fourths, if we can never build our way out of the afford the housing crisis if people continue to remove housing that could be rentals
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did so, please, support this legislation and get the income for our city that we need an police the web. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thanks. after the next speaker, [calling names] >> testifier: good morning. teresa philanderer. thank you so much supervisor campos and supervisor peskin for bringing this to my for creating this. it sounds like we can finally say, if you want to do business here in san franny and all platforms, you have to follow the law. you cannot do false advertising of it illegal units if people have not registered. as a staff member of senior disability action, i also speak for the seniors who
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i know have lost their homes in those homes have indeed become short-term rentals. i've only to think of the 22 units that are still being used as vacation rentals in my neighborhood. we are actually talking about one block, 22 units, and those are free of the buildings were there had been [inaudible] seven years ago and this is a way to bring in the platform to hold them accountable and to stop our seniors from being evicted for greed and so, i want to really support this and i hope everyone will support this. this is so important to our communities, to our city, to maintain neighbors and neighborhoods. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. >> testifier: good morning, supervise. i'm marla night. i'm cochair of north beach tenants committed to living in north beach i have seen firsthand what's happening in our neighborhoods. being converted
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from residential that would into a commercial neighborhood, without any change in zoning. units as ms.-said, are being used entirely for short-term rentals. 75% of these are illegal, and very big money is being made we urge the committee to support this wonderful legislation can i am so happy it's been put forth. we need to enforce our current legislation and air b&b and other platforms need to stop hiding behind registered hosts who are doing the right thing. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: mr. chairman, members of the committee, my name is alex rosenthal. and
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second vice chair of the san francisco democratic party. and registered hosts. i agree that commercial landlords using the hosting site illegally are a problem the city and home share in committee need to do more to work together to stop the abuses and to get folks to register. but it also needs to become much easier to register now to share my experience with you to illustrate. my job at a technology company became unstable run august of last year so i thought about ways to make sure i could pay my mortgage in september. i thought about renting out my extra room. i knew there was a registration process and i looked into it and i saw required a lot of work. got to make an appointment to meet with the opposite short-term rental housing, present with several documents to show your
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listing is a primary residence and you also did a business license. before i did any of this stuff, though, i didn't know if i would like doing it if i want to rent out my room has some insight about inviting strangers into my house did so i spent a few weeks cleaning and organizing and i posted the room and i two different guests were lovely people. was a positive experience for me so i made my appointment with the opposite short-term rental housing in order to register. it took two months to get my permits. there was a problem with the treasurer's office website so i could not get my business license. personally met with to give all my documentation with the office could not get in touch with her. it was relatively onerous. i think this is fair to say that an extension is fairly common. folks are not to go through this process until they try using the service once or twice. requiring registration from day one will affect what killed the service in san francisco. if the registration remains as difficult as it is today. unless-so i've also a third of the entire homes is on air b&b are rented out for 14 nights over the last year. if you're only renting out your place within two weeks a year, you not understand two months
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registered. i'd urge you to consider a grace period for house and registered. >> supervisor peskin: supervisor campos >> supervisor campos: at the beginning of your comments you a device so as the democratic party get are you speak on behalf of the san francisco democratic party as an individual or capacity? i want make sure this is the party speaking >> testifier: i'm speaking as an individual but i ran out of time to say that san francisco democratic party did pass a resolution supporting the concept of this legislation last week. however, they can recommend to be a three-month grace period for hosts the buses become easier to register. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning. my name is pam we. i'm speaking here in support of the legislation. i'm speaking here because we feel very strongly
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that it's important to be able to keep my neighbors, my friends, my peers who are teachers in san francisco. i feel that this legislation will be able to protect them from being pushed out because of the practices of air b&b. this is very personal to me. i live in the richmond district, where the rates of eviction is going up, and have investigated this, and i want to thank the legislative analysis that verified for me that the rates of reduction has been correlated about were corresponding, to the listing of air b&b in our neighborhood. so, i feel that with 82% of these listings not following the law, not being registered, is really important in terms of leveling the playing field. but this is very personal for me because my possessions in my parents
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garage of two-my friends so possessions are there. being stored because they been pushed out. they used to live in rooms that they could rent because they had previously been pushed out by gentrification. the air b&b trends, they were pushed out of those rental units. one now is living with her mother out of state. the other person is still looking for a place, but this is real stories. did the bill just go off? okay. for me, this is -okay. i'm in favor of the legislation and let everybody played by the law in him here to fight to protect rental units. >>[applause] >> supervisor peskin: next
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speaker, please. then, [calling names] >> testifier: hello. my name is sun to help one. i'm a property owner in san francisco and him leasing my property to a tenant. i had left san francisco to take care of my mother in pennsylvania. about a year ago, without my permission, my tenant began renting that property on air b&b and i returned to san francisco to take care of the issue. as the owner of the property, i have been found in violation and being signed for $85 a day while concurrently spending money on costly eviction process. meanwhile, my tenant
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is earning twice what he pays him rent from the air b&b rentals and faces no consequences from the current short-term rental law. item being held accountable and find for the illegal acts of my tenants. yet, i am doing everything i can to [inaudible]. the city is put me in an untenable situation. supervisor breed, i been in contact with samantha rojas in your office regarding my situation. i need your help. i need it now. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you next speaker, please. >> testifier: hi. laura clark. i think i don't like your b&b. but i don't like hotels either. if i never have to state that
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another best western ever again in my entire life, but kevin, thank you. but if we hate hotels, if we hate air b&b, then let's do the straightforward thing and raise the taxes on those facilities could if we think that the city is swamped with too many taurus then let's just do the street thing and raise taxes on those things. i think that what we have done here is created a cumbersome process for getting registered and then yelling at people for not getting registered. if we want people to actually register, if we want the system to function, we need to make the process for becoming legal easier, seamless, and not the kind of long story there were hearing from people were trying to get legal, people running for office and are trying to get legal are struggling through this bureaucratic nightmare that is frankly clearly designed to this incentivize their b&b. we all know why we made this process cumbersome. it's because we don't actually
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want people to be registered. additionally, the more difficult you make this process of getting registered, the more you are selecting for individuals who are doing this as their main source of income. not people who are doing this for one or two nights a week. you are doing this for people decided that this is their main source of income that is why they're going to devote months to the process of getting registered. so, streamline this process. don't just drop the hammer on the people who are struggling to get registered. i agree that we need to address the problem that this woman brought up her she's the landlord and she's getting punished for the bad actions of her tenant. that is terrible. we need to fix that, but this legislation doesn't really solve a problem. this just adds another hammer to the problem. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please.
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>> testifier: hi. my name is cynthia funk with housing rights committee of san francisco. i live in district 9. i'm very grateful for the work that my supervisor is doing. my landlord is in him. i actually really love my landlord wow. my work is primarily interested one and i want to share some of the response expenses were having in that district. we need the city to be able to enforce existing law when you got to happen now. it's urgent. in the communicating process by engaging in in the richmond, we are hearing all types of stories about folks just walking with her committee moves up and down. and comments and folks can actually point out that unit was of this is easily a no being used six units of them are short-term rentals folks know it and it's destroying the fabric in our community. it's really problematic. that's what we need house hosting platforms like your b&b. that's only limited to air b&b. it's my understanding it's for all
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hosting platforms. we need corporate responsibility now. was actually looking at air b&b listings of this morning. i saw couple in the richmond. $675 per night for two bedroom, one bath at $3500 for luxury house rental. $7000 for a gorgeous single-family home. i'm looking at these rentals that are instant bookable and think about all the family second attribute in those units. we are in housing prices. it's time for common sense legislation. this only allows the city to enforce existing legislation. this does not impact when boards for folks trying to rent out their units. so homeowners in san francisco were already following this lot were nothing to worry about. we need to fix the burdensome process that folks are expensive, that is true but we also need to make the existing desertion enforceable. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: my name is jan
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felt it on the redshirt house in district 8 and reading a letter from a host in district 11. please, oppose supervisor campos on sharing order to bring all the parties to the table to find rational legal sounding solutions. this year supervisor elections may well have much to do with the direction of the city over the next years and many vital issues of its future is a great place to get one of those is affordable housing. differences of opinion on how to make san francisco housing more affordable are evident among members of the current board. whatever the effect of the proposed law short-term rentals it appears obvious the timing of the proposal recognizes wishes to circumvent the possibilities that the next word they do things differently from campos and others on the board. there's much more at stake here than a few hundred units that could arguably be returned to the long-term housing market at the cost of increased bureaucracy, increase it would akamai, increased confusion and increase her
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rosman of homeowners. except if the moment the purpose of supervisor campos's proposal at the study, i support strong regulation that protects housing for residents and hold real estate speculators for using the system. i believe all platforms can step forward and do more 12 the city. while believing adequate affordable housing the city will require changes in june with supply and demand that far exceeds the life of any platform to significantly affect. and i firmly believe the city needs to simplify the process. particularly for those who rent space out just a few days or weeks are you. i greatly welcome attempt by the city develop a one-stop online registration process for host. the ever-changing rules and new regulatory requirement only confuse the process more including the newest rule that hosts create an inventory write-down to silverware
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reported to yet another city agency could nobody seems to agree on the details of this latest bit of complexity. the legally questionable proposal will only lead to more confusion and frustration. post residents and regulators. it needlessly tramples online protection act conflicts with federal law. >> supervisor peskin: thank you for your comments. [calling names] >> testifier: i am being mauled and i am with 10 years in the city. this is the first, speaking. i have [inaudible] in bayview now in district 5. i'm a registered host and it was quite difficult to register. i have a foreign name that is not part of the english alphabet and i had to go several times
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back and forth with the registration to dbi, before i was eventually successful in registering. regarding the unruly guests that have been mentioned now more than one time, i feel that the long-term tenants in our building, in the next-door building, there sometimes also the out-of-town guests and some of them don't understand the concept why only people who can afford to help them, [inaudible] can come to this town would not be low rentals. i think the legislation is if enacted [inaudible] it was confirmed
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november of last year. by majority of the citizens here in san francisco. when as an argument by supervisor campos corporate responsibility and good citizenship as mentioned which i highly support, at least your b&b is paying taxes. i think before they're forced to do that. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. >> testifier: don't overdo eight >> supervisor peskin: thank you, sir. thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> testifier: >> testifier: good morning. my name is elizabeth frommer. here
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we go again. a decimal little tired of, down to city hall. but, it's clear when enforcement of an short-term rental laws are not working. 8/10 are not registered. that's kind of wholesale disregard for laws is sort of rivals probation. you must have to wonder why that is. probably, the externally high cost of rents and housing. but, i was the first person to register in this process. i've a certificate number one. >> supervisor peskin: we saw you on the nbc piece. >> testifier: thank you. did you like the dog? he was the
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homey touch. i continue to comply with this ever-growing list of requirements, and now, three city agencies are involved in this is just to rent a spare room that i have to supplement my social security which of course leads to more stable neighborhoods in aging in place for a lot of seniors. i would like to support these proposals because short-term rentals have completely gotten out of hand. the majority are legal and american shooting to a housing shortage, but i like the idea of corporate responsibility. without them we have no environment protections we would have to continue to fight every day for those. but i also agreed a lot of people spoken to this, the process needs to be made easier. registration should be easier. a sort of question the 571-r, personal business property tax requirements. perhaps you could create an agency like a citizens advisory council and
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task force. we've got people in the texas initiative we can do something about this. >> testifier: thank you. next speaker, please. and afterward, public comment [calling name >> testifier: good morning. peter: >> supervisor cohen: here to strongly support the legislation. good to see it coming for. i was almost like misnomer. we would then have total one & compliance in this whole enforcement fiasco would not be good for us. the budget was later analyst report made clear that we do have a lack of compliance and have very weak enforcement system. it was another report that came out almost in the same breath from our planning department called a housing balance report, i don't want to be lost on us.
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this is a continuous track of how much affordable and market rate housing we are producing but also how many existing portable units we are losing. the control unit being taken out of print control to various speculative means. what's fascinating to boil down, but every four units affordable housing the we've been building, we lose three units of rent-controlled housing. that's not quite standing in place. if not a terribly impressive track record. not one we should accept as a continuing trend. why those units are being taken off the market is of course because of a number of speculative forces but we know the short-term rentals being so unenforceable such a lack of compliance is a right opportunity for speculation removal of those units we have to but not all. this legislation is a very simple step forward what puts accountability on the businesses were making a nice any profit office as well as the clients to ensure the simply complying with local laws. if everybody was like misnomer we would not have the kind of housing affordable to crisis with this industry that we do. so, please, supervisor
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this is really low hanging fruit. they should've been and are legislation in the first place asking the businesses to take responsibility for only listing registered host is a very simple step. they should be accountable and frankly should be happy to show their corporate responsibility to protect her housing supply. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> testifier: i am deeper, san francisco tenants union and i was canvassing in district 5 last weekend and i had the chance to speak of a bunch of folks on the street and everyone wanted to know how the cities going to regulate air b&b's and other candidates in that district are going to have a feel about your b&b and other correctly short-term rentals generally. they told me their concerns were what is happening in their neighborhood. i told him i'd see the same thing in my neighborhood in district 9. the neighbors are being replaced by forests. were experiencing is a community hollowing out and when that
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happens is not a community anymore. i do respect the need of six income folks lovely folks people that cannot use computers but i want to point out the number those people are tenants they have-the kind of burden that are tenants face and pushed out when there's increased pressures to find new housing are so much worse for the elderly for the fixed income for the folks who can't use computers. i also want to point out that there is, while i feel for some of the concerns of the host, i don't believe that the issues that were raised is in the legislation before you today. this is really just
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about holding air b&b itself accountable they're not here right now to tell you why you should not pass this legislation it that's because there's no good reason. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: very concerned about the short-term rental. person might name is tony what was and i represent senior disability action. i'm very concerned about this business model short-term rentals how to impacted up to the degree it impacted seniors in particular have lost homes because of speculators that have taken entire buildings of the market to pursue air b&b. and other short-term platforms and other short-term online platforms. you know, the numbers speak for themselves. i think something like 7000 unregistered hosts. it seems to me a matter of wanting to have your path and eat it too. we are cannibalizing a lot of housing stock in san francisco i would liken this to
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what i call homicide we take somebody's home, degree of senior that's been there for many many years and they get evicted. they end up house less than we've seen at least in our organization, many horror stories seniors would've ended up homeless or in substandard housing and that comes with many many ramifications. so, i would've strongly suggest or strongly support the legislation that is before you today. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, tony. next speaker, please. >> testifier: thank you mr. chairman and thank you board of supervisors for letting us all speak today in favor of the legislation to have regulation and corporate responsibility requirements for those large companies that are in fact
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making money from short-term rentals. i want to address an issue my name is mark bruno-i apologize i work with [inaudible] in north beach and have done for 15 years although not speaking on behalf of the society, we do is work with the poor and homeless and many those who come to our society for help people have in fact lost their places, the rentals, because of short-term rentals. i want to address a slightly different issue that's very specific to our neighborhood in one incident. at 525, 535 -street which the city itself is determined-i've no letters from short term rental office-city has determined that this is an illegal short-term rental of five unit building. it's never been properly registered. so what on november 13, up with this. you can show this to everybody on the screen, we had a fire on the building and we had a fire because it turns out,-is a better-you can see the date and incident number infected 10 copies to
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leave with a bottle board of supervisors with all the fire people came out men and women that we had today as taxpayers because this area the building short-term rental being denied proper permits, number one to do the work in the top of the building which i could see from two blocks away have started the fire. well, somebody had been living in the building where the tenants or residents, anybody living next-door who own their own property, it wouldn't much care about a fire on the roof of the building was nobody to care because i'm a particular date nobody was there. you can see in this last display here, to do this work is in fact three days later and three days later. would've cost of fire and a lot of damage to the neighborhood had in fact somebody, me in this case just by coincidence not seen this fire. the point is when you don't have people living in building took about the neighborhood you are inviting is unsafe, on habitable and inhumane ways of affecting the
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neighborhood. so i think were doing more than asking them to pay their fair share as ruskin to be good neighbors and i appreciate you doing that supervisor peskin. thank u so much >> supervisor peskin: i do, sir and just by way of background because i know that building. the famous [inaudible] in what beach, actually was being advertised on a different platform not air b&b but was we should remember there are other hosting platforms and that one actually come after doing some research was not listed on your b&b. was listed on a different site. >> testifier: >> supervisor peskin: ms. lederman and after the next speaker, [calling names] >> testifier: thank you. good morning supervisors. my name is lori lederman resident of the inner sunset. i urge you to support this legislation. the galatian without enforcement is meaningless without the
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required tools enforcement is ineffective. the evidence is in. according to the city's own office of short-term rentals only 75% of hosts are registered. the opposite attributes this in large part to a substantial number of hosts were not eligible to operate short-term rentals under the law. since their inception, the short-term rental behemoths and many of the hosts have ignored existing law and mrs. accountability. so it's pretty clear opposition to this legislation only serves to protect the legal short-term rentals to generate you profits for the platform. against urban environment cannot be a free-for-all where corporations foster and egos of individual
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time and that breaks down the social conjugate we've traffic and parking laws. we have rules and regulations for small businesses. violations are subject to fines. this is not a new concept. excepting short-term rentals from enforceable rules is a slap in the face to every small business in the city, a slap in the face to every neighborhood has de facto been rezoned commercial for short-term rentals and important, most important, is problematic motivator to continue converting housing stock to short-term rentals. i like to note, the speakers here today were posted this legislation are all registered house. proven the operation of the city office of short-term rentals is necessary, but it's a separate issue from this legislation not impaired by this legislation. this legislation is in the public interest among corporations great facts on the ground recruiting stakeholders with a personal best interest then become lobbyists for corporations does not make good public policy. your job is to make good public policy could please, support this simple by the legislation. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: think. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning, supervise. minus dennis must cozy night to live in the inner sunset. this reminds me of the banks that were too big to fail. we have air b&b and other sort of too big to fail to but
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i think we have to look at is when the corporations like this are challenged to change the subject. today, a lot of the discussion was about the details of the client application process and i understand if that's all accurate, then it needs to be improved, but the real issue is, it's fantasy to imagine that for-profit corporations, whether it's air b&b or have is the chief motive responsibility to the communities they suck money from. that is just unreal. i think we should just look at it correctly. the government, our government, has responsibility to all of the various people in its jurisdiction. 12 businesses. your b&b has responsibility to itself. to its cheat investors. to expect them to behave in a way that corresponds to the
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needs of the people address the fact that they're impacting the housing situation negatively is unrealistic. i think it's all responsibility and you've taken it up in this legislation that the government is close to take care of establishing these regulations that should've been done a year and half ago, and the message is in, and now we know that in fact the corporations will not take care of this responsibility by themselves. so, i strongly encourage all of you to pass this on to the full board with a strong positive recommendation. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> testifier: good morning. it's good to be had. i know it's a very different attitude in this room from last year. at these hearings. my name is kathy lipscomb among the board of senior and disability action we are very grateful to supervisors peskin and campos who persistently push this kind
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of legislation, which is so drastically needed. this industry has definitely negatively impacted the rental market. a report to supervisor campos dated 5-13-15: evictions in major neighborhoods reveals a correlation between elections and neighborhoods. examples: the intermission, the numbers of commercial hosts were 315. the numbers of deductions, 323. pretty close. he got very, 193 hosts, to 12 evictions. then, there's a scandal of the sro, the poorest people being pushed out for short-term rentals. citizens were told last year, justin a lot time to work it just give a lot time to work. we have. we have. the short-term rental office now seems to throw up its hands
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upon admitting as many as 8000 people have not registered. what does this mean for city taxes? senior disability action strongly supports the registration process in hopes that the numbers of days that people post is closely monitored. host must have a valid number to get on a platform and were this world really fair, those the liquid once would have to pay some retroactive fines. also, i agree that the registration process must be simplified. too many people have found fault with it. no excuses. thanks again for your hard work is very important issue. the world is watching us. the custom thank you. before the next speaker i want to say that resident breed needs to leave so i want to afford her a moment to make some comments in an supervisor campos were take her place as a member of the committee. supervisor breed >> president breed: thank you. i want to just a couple words because i do appreciate a lot
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of the folks who've come out and express concern, not just about the legislation but the process. i just wanted to add a couple of things. number one, i've heard time and time again that the process is problematic. i do think that, especially because many of the people that i've interacted with use their bedrooms for your b&b purposes seven seniors we do have challenges with computers, and i want to make sure that this process is fair. we talk about accessibility. we go out of our way as a city to provide different languages on our ballots and to do other things to make sure that people feel included and are able to
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use our systems and processes fairly, and so i do think that we have got to do a better job with the process and make the process work. but i do think that overall, we do need to make sure that there is accountability. i think this is really a simple fix to that accountability. the situation of the landlord's tenant is illegally renting out an air b&b , renting out a unit, is a prime example of why registration is so important. because, if you are tenant you have to get permission from your landlord. clearly, this system is rogan and we have to do a better job of regulating it. getting folks who are breaking the law with this particular platform should be done in such a way like getting a parking. as soon as the meter is about to expire, you know here comes the meter maid. giving you a ticket it is consequences. if you don't feed the meter. we need to make sure that we have consequences for people who are not following
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the law. this is really, i think, a first step. i know there's more work to be done with this platform, and i want to commend kevin god for the work he has done with trying to crack down on people were taking entire units aftermarket and using them for the sole purpose of short-term rentals and that should not be happening in our neighborhoods. but i also empathize and support many of the folks in the city who use this is extra income. if you are wealthy you probably wouldn't even bother with this platform, but then again, you do also have individuals were using this as a way to just, basically, exist and have a business for this particular purpose and it should not be the case either. i want us to strike the bounds. i don't think this legislation is unreasonable and i think that i'm definitely just to be clear, i will be supporting the legislation and i will be working with many of my home shares with concerns about this
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, especially about the process. working to try to make the process work, especially, especially, for senior population. so i just want to say that this is not the first time that we've looked at legislation and brought it back to the board and made a fix to make it better legislation. we may be before the board there may be additional legislation because i feel strongly that we have got to have a stronger system in place that goes after people who have entire units off the market for this purpose. that is definitely a huge problem in the city and we know this doesn't necessarily address it and we have more work to do, but this is definitely a step in the right direction. i don't think it's so overwhelming that it should be opposed because it's just, i think, common sense. i appreciated supervisor campos
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and supervisor peskin's leadership on this particular issue because it does make sense. i do want to express that one of the things i'm also concerned about your there are hosting platforms where this would be required. i want to make sure that there's other platforms that are not necessarily short-term rental type platforms that the door can be open for abuse on those platforms as well, so i think accountability across the board is going to be important and we're bringing in now a decent amount of revenue because of this. we should definitely work with kevin guy and his office to make sure we have adequate resources to get this process to work for people but more poorly, adequate resources to make sure enforcement is done on a regular basis. so, with that, thank you again i apologize but i do have to leave. as supervisor campos we
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taken my place in 042 watching this hearing later and getting more feedback from members of the public about this. so, thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you mdm. pres. thank you for your patience. >> testifier: hi. my name is alicia sandoval. the were for housing rights committee. i see many changes in the mid-mission district. i remember there being not a lot of b&b but as i see, right now we are facing a housing crisis. but i also want to bring out to you what happens when families, when seniors, are being displaced by fires by the actions. it's not
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fair. then sleeping in cars, being homeless,. that's a crisis. to me, that's a crisis. we need to help. we need help. these families committee seniors need help. they have been displaced. i see this legislation as a way to build in accountability to a whole structure, to assist them. making sure that the landlord, the owners from buildings are not even take people, and i know it's happening. it's imperative there be a system of structure that they will be accountable. so, it makes it a little harder to register. but imagine all the people who are homeless, all the people are being displaced. that is much harder to deal with.
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>> testifier: >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: my name is in the choir and i live in north beach.i too would like to thank supervisor campos and supervisor peskin for taking leadership in this very important legislation. i think many of the speakers before me express very eloquently why it's needed. particularly, the lady with a long white hair and a gentleman next to her. so i won't take my whole 2 min. i been following error b&bs path for number of years. i don't think they know what corporate
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responsibility is all about. i don't think $1000 a day fine will then much of their budget says they were able to spend $8.9 million to defeat proposition f. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: hi. my name is peggy grasso. i'm in support of the legislation could overcome i don't feel-sorry. can you coming out >> supervisor peskin: yes, perfect. >> testifier: name is peggy gosselin 11 hazed out. i support the legislation being proposed but as it stands now i think it's a start. many people mentioned about the current enforcement and its lack of backbone or efforts run as a
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effort. but meet or responsibility. we have a situation where i live on our street that the people have incited off of it are being beaded seized intermediate debate open their own platform. they continue to do so. when you contact the office of short-term rentals, not just myself but other neighbors, we were told is not a lot we can do about it. regardless of the platform, is a corporate responsibility by air b&b and the platforms, but also personal responsibility of the people doing the writing and violating the law. so, if legislation the sinking ship departed press on, but that's going anywhere they can. in my worst-case scenario, think about this, you've always platforms that thing up independently in all these different methods that spring up to circumvent the law as it
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exists right now. what we need for example, this person down the street from us has been cited for illegal rental and continues to rent on other platforms. you know, told by the citizens is of mcadoo then what's the point of enforcement at all? or the law? it makes no sense at all. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. after the other speaker cards i've called, [calling names] >> testifier: good morning. my name is lauren kinsey with the internet association. the internet association is a nonprofit trade organization the workers of the world's leading internet companies and its community of users. i and 40 local companies welcomed opportunity to share opposition to the local providers. were
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draft is quasi-local foresman ages. every: platform companies liable for user generated content contravenes established federal law. specifically, section 230 of the communications decency act of 1996. section 30 clarifies that an internet service is not a publisher when facilitating speech for third-party. section 230 provides legal foundation for interactive internet. courts have interpreted this provision broadly t-bar intermediary liability for user generated content. this clear protection is enabled internet expose the program provides the necessary legal certainty for scores of legal services. including blogs, forums, consumer review sites, social media and others. by allowing individuals with a spare room to connect with people in
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search of a place to save time-sharing platforms are another prime example where the free flow of user generated content has led to empower individuals and widespread economic growth. i urge members to work with the company to find a better path to an agreeable solution. don't let this proposal move forward minutes were together on a solution. thank you so much >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: i am a volunteer counselor from the san francisco tennessee unit did i been there actually for 12 years. i'm also district 5 voter. before i understood how devastating the effects of air b&b are, actually using air b&b. i got bitten by bedbugs and i had only stayed in to host place. i sing you the were bedbugs because they were [inaudible] three in a row i've got my own sheets. i contacted the hosted one with no information about the possibility of bedbugs in a
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highly transit home in the other one who flatly denied the possibility that they have any bedbugs so i contacted air b&b clearly showed that they would be providing the support whatsoever in this situation. i think that we definitely need to have some regulations to protect the consumer. those are actually businesses and so this is part of what we should be doing for businesses. i would also read a short letter from a couple of registered those were unable to make it here today earnings are lead and tara lockhart from the trail hill. they say here, we've used area media for own since 2011 and hosted guests from all over the world since may of 2013. upon being informed that we knew to register our home we did so did although, the process of getting our business license in short-term rental permit was long and inefficient. however,
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despite these inconveniences, we think it's important that short-term rentals are regulated so that any bad actors are weeded out and are held to the same standard. we are dismayed and frustrated that this law is not being enforced equally for all who host another platform exit tidy sum will not step up to take some other spots ability for regulating the economy the law. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: thank you supervisor randy shaw director of the hamilton, we've been dealing with this issue for a couple years now and supervisor campos has picked up. we have an enforcement problem and october of 2014 supervisors kim and breed cosponsored a nonprofit standing amendment i would give groups like ours the same right to directly sue house were not following the law did it's been remarkably successful in hotel conversion
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and payment stopping illegal hotel conversions we can do the same thing probably 70% of the apartments of what happened was, after that legislation was sponsored it had to go to planning. it passed planning could do was some other controversial issues. this was a 6-1 vote in favor of a good a year ago when it got to the full board, all kinds of hijinks occurred in all the reforms were defeated. which is insane. because even if we pass this legislation, the losses can be filed in the federal communication that might be held but we have nonprofit standing which is already drafted. it's ready to go. maybe if you added to this current legislation passed next week i don't even know it's on a hearing on. other processes but started and in through planning. it seems to been lost amidst these other issues and as i say, even if we have registered everyone has to register, if someone is violating the law, who is going
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to enforce it? the city attorney can't do it alone. so, please consider adding it again i can send you the copy of the legislation of you need to. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, mr. shaw. next speaker, please. and after [calling names] >> testifier: good morning. jim lazarus san francisco chamber of commerce. taking homes and units off the market for short-term rentals is illegal. it's illegal today. it was illegal five years ago. the city's planning department, building inspection department, rent control offices need to use the tools they already have to enforce zoning laws in san francisco to attain our housing stock it that's not what is before you today. what is before you today is an effort
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to pass through a variety of private businesses located, who knows where, through the worldwide internet, and obligation to police and edit content on the internet. this would be it as if this board of supervisors tried to enforce its business licensing laws by having the examiner call everybody that's advertised in here with a 650 number for a roofing contractor, a painting contractor, a hauling company, and assure they had eight san francisco business license before the examiner could take the ad. that's not how it works. that is and how it works under federal law or the first amendment. but the city does is that the tax collector office calls 650-589-2975 in san matteo county to see how much business they're doing in san francisco and whether they have a license. do not pass the
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obligation away from where it belongs within the enforcement of all these laws in san francisco. what you have heard today is a failure of enforcement by the city manager not be put on the backs of independent companies that are located here and actually throughout the world. they given much >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: to echo the previous speaker, to ask a platform to do what you're asking and if they did everyone would move. but we need to-to echo him again, we do need enforcement that's where i think the city needs to be enforcing and helping all these cases of eviction because that should not be happening. i'm a registered house. i hold a business license. i filed all my forms should i renew my business. i did everything i
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need to. i even paid the city back tax. i would love the city to use that to help ease addiction cases and not hopefully, reasonably think that passing this legislation will change or help these problems are going on. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: i'm with the housing rights committee we are supporting this legislation. the reality is, air b&b is making our housing crisis worse. it's taking units off in rooms off the market at a time when we desperately need every single one of these units. to landlords and speculators using the directions to clear out old buildings to rent them as air b&b. my own landlord came to me at one point and told me a story where she had rented a place to someone not realizing
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that the woman was a real door and the woman never moved in. she was renting the place out as air b&b. was only when a neighbor informed my landlady that you realize that the woman was not even living there. three: sros, people talked about the. sros used to be the housing for the poorest people among us. the speedway homeless people got off the streets. but what is happening. we know that units, rooms, and sros are being converted to air b&b and so what does that mean? it means most people are not getting off the street. i was below the costly gupta street on auditing of the street which is only making our homeless problem worse. for neighborhoods are justification. i know people talked about that rather than the castro and the fact that air b&b is intruding factor to the fact that the castro is becoming less lgbt. it's been de-gay and is being air b&b is one of the villains in all
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that. so, pass this law. give the city a tool to crack down on the speculators and the other people were exploiting these platforms to evict long-term tenants and to make scads and scads of money and make our housing crisis even worse than it is. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, tommy. next speaker, please. >> testifier: eileen bogan central park resident. here in support of the amendment as they put more teeth into the ordinance. i urge the committee to move this item forward the recommendation. thanks. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. is fred here? i called her name. [calling names]. mr. bolan. >> testifier: good morning members of the board. by ms. bruce bolan. i live in district
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8. near a number of air b&b or other rental writing sometimes tens of thousands dollars a month and i don't know whether their legal register or not. to support strongly support this commonsense change to the law. listening to the discussion today it seems to be obvious with the legislation proposes is reasonable and really nothing new. it's required registration provisions activities that affect the public. i asked myself, have i ever felt burdened by the arbiter thought a government form? the answer is, yes. have i ever felt that my temporary inconvenience overrides legitimate public or government interest and legitimate public oversight, or increased corporate responsibility? well, no. so thank you for bring this legislation forget x-ray board addition to the law. thanks. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> testifier: i get my name is henrietta kurier i apologize for my poor penmanship. my girlfriend complains about all
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the time. >> supervisor peskin: sorry for butchering yearning. >> testifier: no problem. i would like to support the legislation. i think it's a quite a no-brainer in these arguments about how air b&b is operating as a nice the engine on the subject to such regulation is just a bunch of who we. comparing, regulating short-term rentals with a newspaper taking out newspaper ads you can compare these think it's new world and old worlds. we need new approaches to make new world technology work in today's environment. the biggest problem, you for this over and over again-the short-term rentals are causing less housing. it trickles downhill in your seeing more homeless people. that's really the big problem. all these
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homeless people. so, yay for the legislation. it's a start and i look forward to seeing the next pieces of legislation to make registration easier. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. after that, [calling names] >> testifier: good morning, supervisor name is charlie work on government affairs for the san francisco apartment association. thank you for hearing us today. we represent about 3000 property owners from the immense about 70,000 rent-controlled apartments citywide. we ask that you support the legislation here before you today and also the full board of supervisors. the main thing the legislation does is all the platforms themselves accountable for registration. the same weight hurts is allowed to make sure the card about a register with the dmv. we believe this to be the smartest, easiest and effective way of cracking down on the bad actors were both landlords and tenants while allowing home sharing to continue in the framework of the existing law.
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the requirement told by forms and honorable to only list registered units was a primary recommendation of the planning department staff last year. the planning commissioner has called it the linchpin of successful enforcement. successful enforcement is really important. with nobody really registering no to incentive to register even the office of short-term rentals has stated there's no real way to go after some of the worst actors. this is extremely problematic because the underlying policy goals of the legislation that it make sense to allow short-term rentals on a limited basis, that people should only be able to conduct short-term rentals in the home in which they live, that they must allow and the building on the phone owner before starting they should not be able to do with no subletting clause, all the enforcement mechanisms you built it over the past three years into 107 on the enforcement on the registration prospect without registration, none of these other mechanisms and checks and balances are able to start. we've heard loud
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and clear from our membership that some of them will opt out of the rent-controlled ordinance without proper enforcement. what that means is, do not offer their tenants to people who live and work it will without enforcement of those motives to enforcement of the water there tends to short-term rental guests to air b&b services. we ask you for your support today and a couple board and i think of your time. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: gentlemen my name is dale carlson here for share better san francisco. i would talk about the legal indemnification that air b&b claims it has for many municipal regulation. we do not allow walgreens to sell prescription drugs without a prescription. we don't allow safely to sell alcohol or tobacco two young adults who can prove they are over 21. we don't let hertz rent vehicles to unlicensed drivers. we don't
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allow uber to put unlicensed drivers in unregistered vehicles on its platform. you talk about the same sort of standard applying to hosting platforms. you can't list it. you can't rent it. you can't ever ties it does not properly registered with the city. we are not talking about passively user generated content. not talking about a company that is protected by the communications decency act because unlike yelp or sf gate using his posting inflammatory and incendiary comments. were top-notch hosting five forms that are aggressively pursuing and recruiting you host. my wife and i received an invitation from b rbl. rent your home for $5000 a week during outside lands. we received a notice through next-door, come to a seminar at air dnd headquarters and learn how to become a host.
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and how to get around san francisco regulations. and how to get around your landlord. there is no indemnification for aiding and abetting, and that's what he sows in platforms are doing. they are aiding and abetting illegal activity. the >> supervisor campos: >> supervisor peskin: legislation will make that stop and i urge you to pass the legislation. the best and thank you and thank you for your work. if i'm not called your name will call a few more speaker cards. [calling names] >> testifier: my name is ian winkler and other than the district 6 resident like most when he is mean my boyfriend were content to just kind of party or the world burns until friday and got a notice from our landlord saying that they're trying to do back to reduction of him and put in an electronic key card system are 46 unit building. ostensibly,
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to try to do more interview be stuff i want to remind you guys that you are the only line between the millionaires and billionaires and us. you don't stand up for us, nobody else will. this is those to be a democracy. never got involved before. but now i feel committed to be a people for progressive politics. i stood in line for five hours on monday to go see bernie sanders. i volunteered for jane kim for two years on tuesday. this morning i'm here and this evening i'm been a volunteer for bernie sanders again. we are scared of orlando. if you give them an inch of they come out. of those out on the street. we live in the only department in san francisco that we can afford. i ask you to remember the average people when you make these decisions. please, support this resolution. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. ms. >> supervisor cohen: >> testifier: good morning. still morning.
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>> testifier: get market is still one. i'm patina >> i'm in support of the legislation it is been money or other speakers that have already spoken in support of it who said what i would like to say more eloquently than i would be able to say so all i can say is, i'm glad that it's been put for. i hope that has the full support of the board of supervisors. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you ms. cohen. there's fred. >> testifier: [inaudible] i'm here to support the bill. our organization does. as you know, they're still thousands of apartments on your b&b. if i that is the website and what people sell drugs illegal
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prostitution, whatever my more police on those things were, the website would get shut down and we be held liable somehow with letting people list their apartments. illegally breaking the law and what were seeing is tons of apartments that had been rented out to a not been able to soit's really disturbing and you need to put a stop to. thank you all for taking this up. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: i could on teresa and perry all of those was housing program and we are here to support this legislation. it's been long
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overdue. the should of been in the legislation from the very beginning. our number a year ago when there are questions about enforcement it seems to be unenforceable. so, it should've been done in the first place. also, there are programs, our office in the their people seen in our program looking for affordable housing live in sros and saying that their hotels are being rented for air b&b. also, along that the much along that sixth street, you can see some forests coming out of srl like hotels and you're wondering what is going, what happened while people who just used to live there. so this legislation is just pretty much what much
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enforcement into the legislation but should of been happening before and the fact that will go to small site acquisition. it's a great idea. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> file name is robert-i live in apartment building in the marina.after a lot of denials, buying her application on your bmd, i was able to find out through somebody in tampa
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florida at area be issued rented the unit out in 2015 and made $43,000 on her unit. when we caught her this year she had made $12,000. a couple things that i support the legislation, one of the things is ridiculous if you. give 30 days notice is absolutely stated. something like this. because people will go up to the 29th day, collect the money, and then hold tight for a while and go back to. also the taxes of defendant i talk to the tax collector people. what happens is the legitimate people the money people for my unit the money goes in. they match up with the
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legitimate people could they have the other money is from the people that are not registered. they cash the check. there's no incentive. the got their money this nonsense and do anything and i do not understand why somebody, does not check out all the addresses that coming with this tax money. involved without. you'll find out who the legal people are. i support the legislation and i firmly believe that this legislation will hopefully get people working towards getting of city back to work. the past can think. i welcome all the schoolkids who just joined us. good morning, everybody. >> good morning. >> supervisor peskin: >> testifier: i do not know they want to speak. my name is marie swanson. i don't think i can really add on to what everybody is saying, but i think that since we know the objections equal new care b&b that we should just stop letting people rent entire traces out. all the new
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constructions that's not an air bmd because it's too expensive so what are they doing? they're demolishing housing stock. it's all existing housing that's turning into air b&b. i just think that's wrong. housing is for people. i'd also like to add that when out rosenthal came up and spoke, she is a lobbyist for air b&b. so, so much for the word transparency. really, i don't think-i think the great start, but i don't think it's going to go far enough. then, i read how much air b&b donated to supervisors. i'm not optimistic on this vote for the full board because he clearly knows how to buy his vote. thank you. good luck. >> supervisor peskin: thank
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you. after the next speaker, [calling names] >> testifier: actually stepped up in the wrong one. i'm a reader comment. is that okay. >> supervisor peskin: that's okay >> testifier: my name is maria, in and out in the san francisco resident for over 20 years in attendance. i'm here to speak in support of the legislation for the short-term rentals. i've seen in the past several years greed take over the city. the bar displaced it is just wrong when seniors of becoming homeless and living on the streets where i see things about an 80-year-old woman that's been affected. rents are so high, they are completely out of control, even for people making a good income. it's challenging could be challenging to find a place to live. it's an epidemic gets not only i think the problem is it's not only in san francisco that these companies are doing
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this. this is an international epidemic. this become a problem around the world in big cities where they're causing displacement and it's time for them to be corporate responsible and if they're not a do it in the city needs to do it for them to all these companies accountable and we need to san francisco represent is a letter know the cities not for sale. i've never been afraid to be evicted before now. i'm a good tenant, would've my landlord decides to sell the place and become an air b&b or whatever platform. how would i find a place to live? it so difficult to find a place to live these days. so, we just need you to stand up for the people that san francisco not the wealthy and not the corporations but for the people so we can stay here and have the city be diverse, culturally, economically, thank you. be peskin thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier: hello. i'm julianna arras. i just want to
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say my husband and i are one of the first 100 people pose the register last year with the new law and i want to say, since then, from day one that other departments do not know where the office was so the neighboring offices did not know where the office was to register. since then, we have got duplicate notices and threatening notices about taxes and inventories, about mention everything. i think that legislation is good, but if the city does not get together and having the department talk to each other and do actual planning it'll be totally inefficient. the other part i want to say is given my age that on the senior citizen and lived in the area in san francisco well i work in san francisco for 30 years, i lived in the city for 29 and the reason why was because in the 80s, it was impossible for professionals like myself and
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my husband,, myself as a social worker to buy property in san francisco at the time. i think to go only under a b&b and any other platform is hypocritical diving we should go after the academy of arts which are finally doing it and the investors, the chinese which in the article published in the new york times have the majority of their investment here in the city. we should prevent foreign investment to do that because we are the ones really causing the crisis market. it is not one single agency or one single corporation. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: >> testifier: hi my name is jane cohen am also host and the landlord in the city for many years. i registered onto the tedious process this woman is talked about and i'm going to the tax office. that but these
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notices i've not pass my taxes and i had good i think it is good that the city is i think people should be required to be registered and on the size. there's good in bad in this world and a lot of seniors and others get caught in the process crossroads of some these bad actors. but there are those of us that have always operated within the law and the reason were all trying to keep our heads above water. that's why some of us, when we legally have vacancies have chosen to go this route. we are not targeting seniors. we are not targeting hispanics or anybody else. we are trying to get our
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own heads above water because of the restrictions of rent control. so i want to say to you they should require what is the listing number. i also think you need to clean up your own house before you can ask others to. >> supervisor peskin: thanks. >> testifier: i want to dispense with this nonsense the short-term rental platforms are internet could there hotel commission marriott is the second largest hotel franchisor in san francisco after air dmv. if you go on marriott.com, you can rent from thousands of hotel operations around the
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world in the huge majority of them are neither owned or managed by the marriott corporation that's no different from what air b&b and the rpo do. holding these giant corporations accountable is common sense and as someone said before, a no-brainer. i do want to acknowledge supervisor breed and many commentators said that when he to go a lot further than this legislation. absolutely there's widespread violation of law because as the law was written as the planning department told the board of supervisors, when the two ordinance was that this is unenforceable. the city does not have the tools to enforce the law. we need to put our focus on that, but right now, this piece of legislation focusing on the corporations is where we need to start. i made resident of district 8. just my block alone there are six full-time whole units at your pmb operations there. they
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would be rent-controlled. they will be housing for people who need housing and san francisco said they're been rising full-time which i would estimate is $3500 a month. we can't compete with that on the rental market. we needed away the incentives in all these counties are accountable. the best and thank you. next speaker, please. any other members of the public >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. any other members of the public alike to testify these line up behind the specter. >> testifier: i'm a small business owner in san francisco and i went out on my own about a year and half ago and i am a host. and air b&b has allowed
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me to pursue my dreams of owning a small business because san francisco is such an expensive city to live in and to start a small business. i need to be able-it's challenging to start a small business in the first day. so i did register and the process takes time out of my schedule to go to city hall and the planning department and i think process just needs to be streamlined better so that it will allow people to register by the registration process. i just feel like they've help me and it will does help small business owners, people who have a dream they want to pursue it so that's my take on it. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. next speaker, please. >> testifier:i'm a little
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noticed. my name is silly smith. i been here for many times already. i live a building with six units. i'm going to through investment she dated five things. first she offered the market then she accused me of violations. then she made me a settlement, then the today's gimme a settlement she gamy [inaudible] that's not the problem. the problem is that. she gives three people [inaudible] and the other ones are coming in and out so i think those are the issues today. so, please do some and i hope when my broken images can understand. the past can we understand this on. >> testifier: i been here so may times. mussina does it. i went up and down hills in every type of weather. on the
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disabled i don't get help from nobody. i'm going to share this with you guys. i sent all my money writing to all of you guys writing to jerry brown, obama, name it. i was so desperate federal to the pope, who answered me he's the only one that answered me. he gimme his blessing and good luck for me. [inaudible]
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>> supervisor peskin: next speaker, please. >> testifier: we've been fighting for for the housing and rigid license our reception in 1981. we supported many many projects for new affordable housing in san francisco over a number of years. but it's almost a futile effort when were losing a photo units at the same time. with this legislation does is give us a tool to try to fix that perhaps the biggest problem of a short-term rental may not the only one but the biggest. which is the wholesale loss of rental units to the new hotel industry. thomas like we have a forest fire going on to recall the fire department but meanwhile, their arsonists are still out there setting fires. it's almost pointless. we can do something to stop the cannibalization of our existing
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rental stock all these efforts are almost totally futile. i plot this legislation and i hope we move towards stopping once again the wholesale loss of portable rental units in san francisco. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you. thank you for your 35 years of service. >> testifier: good afternoon my name is stuart, born and raised stands san francisco that generated currently the founder of san francisco native source. when megan refers not to the coalition 1800s was a lot more room in san francisco. but for some, take up all that space. until we can appropriately and regulations to allow other people to live in the city during the urban migration in the 1990s and 2000, we are going to displaced families living here for generations. i grew up in the city of one of most diverse cities in the united states and now it's when the least diverse cities. i hope we can come together to put in the appropriate regulations so that i can have other families for generations to continue to live in san francisco. thank you for your time and thank you for
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being you. >> supervisor peskin: thank you, subject seeing no other members of the public we will close public comments. thank you all for staying through this long hearing good i want to not only think supervisor campos and all the supporters on this legislation. i also want to point out that this legislation is very consistent with the recommendations that came from the city administrator and the opposite short-term rentals actually got in january in early january to the office of short-term rentals wrote a letter to brian chesky, ceo of air b&b, as was to other platforms craigslist, home away, brd oh, suggesting a number of of improvements, including that the websites
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have some sort process for acknowledging registration compliance. so, i want to say we are finally getting it to implement that here today, and i'm hopeful-this is an evolving area of law. this is not just happening in san francisco. it's happening in cities across the country and everybody is trying to figure their way to get the right regulatory system in place that on the one hand, allows people to make ends meet and on the other hand does not lead to the loss of thousands of units of affordable housing that are meant to be occupied residence of a vibrant city and a vibrant city. so, i think we are evolving this legislation here today and with that, i would like to turn it over to committee member campos and ask vice chairman yee if he has any
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comments. >> supervisor campos: i'll defer to supervisor tammy. >> supervisor peskin: supervisor yee the floor is yours >> supervisor yee: i would think a public for coming out and giving their comments today. it was very enlightening. some of the things i've heard before, but certainly stories like jennifer's and ms. lees and ms. müller race, from sunnyside,it's not unique. my eye this deceived many calls with some type stories.there seems to be some confusion from people that came today in terms ofthose who voice their opposition to the legislation in what it does and does not do. they did bring up some concerns. the office of short-term rentals can improve their system so people could actually get registered a
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little easier. this is a question that begs an answer for a future hearing. the penalty charge, again, as supervisor peskin noted, is certainly on the books already and letting the platforms know you're responsible as well as everyone else and was also confusion my think this was only for air b&b and it's for all the hosting platforms. so, given that, for me, i don't understand the opposition that much because it mainly i think this is so straightforward to me. it's peacefully asking our hosting platforms to work with us to stop the poor for a should of unregistered posts that are out there
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