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commissioner bobby wilson recommendation my recommendation to approve the legislation with the carve out of anyone that has an application and not have the the staff's recommendation. >> a ban. >> right. >> huh? >> i couldn't hear the requirements. >> it would be the legislation as proposed with the carve out of anyone that has an application very simple. >> yes. >> that's property for a vote and take it didn't pass move on. >> i second it. >> no, we still have to vote on the motion. >> that's the motion that's there is a motion that has been seconded so essentially the previous no recommendation and replaced with. >> i get it i get it. >> shall i call the question? commissioners and it appears so,
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so there's a motion tenant-landlord to adopt a recommendation for approval with. >> commissioner antonini no commissioner hillis marry no are commissioner johnson no commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong no that motion fails three to four. >> commissioner hillis so i make a motion to approve are modifications striking the clause unless the ratio of the formula retail is at least 3 to 1 so a ban on certain square footage that 5 thousand square feet but recommend that the board consider reducing that square footage to somewhere around 25 hundred square feet to
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consider implementing a ban triggered when the percentage of formula retail exceeds 10 percent also consider isn't it true a ban when the vacant rates community-based blow and certain percentage and consider a tiered system for certain formula retails have an outlet over 11 somewhere like 25 arrest 50 but the remainder rrst 50 but the remainder o 50 but the remainder r 50 but the remainder cus. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i'm not sure i'm totally understanding that. >> it's a recommendation i'm not. >> disapproval with those recommendations. >> with modifications. >> you know the planning
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department has 5 thousand square feet i kept that but asking the board considering to lowering that square footage threshold don't have to put a number and triggered with the vacancy rate hits a square footage in a tiered system with greater than 25 percent or 50 or more their ideas more than their concrete numbers. >> it's a way to kind of get somewhere between a cu. >> a question for mr. sanchez any size requirement requires a cu like in my neighborhood i believe in polk street 25.
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>> i recommend we use the same threshold it make sense. >> sure. >> the other thing i sat here i know this commission mentioned several times we need to know that retail a changing the face of the physical word i know that planning department staff and the director started to do an eating and cringing establishment threshold analysis i think that if you have the ban width any comments formula retail how much put it in a package we've heard 20 percent drinking becomes higher we get an idea we're touching on the ones but the other thing this motion were to pass we had - have a recommendation that no
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i'm sorry no eating and drinking establishment should steady 20 percent in north beach 20 or 50 percent we keep on approving things 74. 5, etc. we get automatic spending cuts so i'll recommend some kind of concern point rather than keep on adding to it. >> commissioner moore. >> what is difficult to set standard is the fact that 5 thousand square feet a size of formula retail that is hardly available notices thousand square feet places except very, very few and people start to aggregate the facade activism their taping up like one hundred and 80 and 200 small square feet
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stores they're in the scale and price range of local business can thrive i think unless you understand the particular dna on polk street they don't address things we're trying to protect i believe that the simple legislation as proposed is the best way of doing it for the retail independence itself based on the actual purchase power a variety over retails by wine and collies and why were you buy groceries not a long shot all you have to do is walk up to hyde or medical recognition to find out what you need with a broader brush and this does
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exactly that. >> i heard a motion not a second. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you i applaud commissioner hilliss motion i'll be supportive of a lot of this if they were enacted but taken together it is a different legislation than what we're hearing if that's the case i recommend disapproval and back to the drawing board and adding in the elements and making a better o'tool for what people are trying to do i can't recommend approval there are so many changes that will be completely different legislation and a different tool. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'm completely supportive of commissioner johnson i'm going to make a motion to
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disapprove we've had plenty of finding it needs to be more nuanced and more careful to deal with certain formula retail that you want to keep if going in but others you'll want to work with so this out right band is not good legislation my motion to disapprove. >> second. >> i'll add the staff i think the staff get the tenure of this hourlong conversation thank you feel you can put the bullet with hidden what the commissioners are assessing with other they're other ideas. >> commissioner hillis. >> so i'm going to be supportive i think the board ultimately will decide but i hope they would i think people are nervous about the commercial
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corridor and it is i agree with my fellow commissioners a ban is not the right quasi but somewhere in between castro it worked so i'll encourage folks to explore that. >> family through the chair you're recommending disapproval you want a more nuanced approach. >> right and we recommend approval are modifications completely changed the ordinance to try to reach the same goal so you can actually recommend approval with mosaics as i'm sorry as commissioner hillis you
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can which was the ordinance for recommendation for approval. >> commissioner antonini. >> no, i think that for the reasons stated over the last hour or more we feel that at least he feel this is not a appropriate or necessary legislation at this point as it is now structured it is one-size-fits-all kills all formula retail and didn't matter local or larger or small how many outlets so rather than approve we certainly have sent a message to the supervisors they can do things on their own but didn't mean not something that could be crafted but if nothing it craft the cu process will be protective have been polk street as in the past and will be in the future that's still my motion. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i'd like the advice of mr.
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starr we're not saying a ban we support the ban only withs administrations with a nuanced approach. >> that's what i'm saying i'm not supporting a ban we want something developed which augments the cu process or a different type of legislation where the ban is liked to only certain types of formula retail. >> good much detail. >> if this motion fails i'll make a competing motion to do what commissioner bobby wilson accident and see if it transaction. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to there is a motion that has been seconded to adopt the resolution for disapproval with questions or comments and suggestions to be incorporated as finding to the board of supervisors on that motion commissioner antonini commissioner bobby wilson commissioner johnson commissioner moore no
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commissioner wu no commissioner vice president richards no and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 4 to 3 commissioners. >> (clapping.) >> excuse me - we've had a long day as it is and we still have 540 a large group as well as bryant street i advised parentheses to advise their project sponsors that some of the cases maybe continues my recommendation will be to continue items 11 a and b, 12, 14, 16 ab to june 30th would you go over that one more time. >> excuse me - folks if you're leaving do so quietly we are business to attend to my recommendations to continue items 11 ab, 12, 14, 16 ab,
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which whether leave the two largest items reprimanded and retrained on the calendar last year a lot of folks here to speak. >> so the times certain will we hear bryant or la how far. >> it's entirely up to the commission and chair one after a small break. >> that's my recommendation a number of people for d how far we continue everywhere's on the june 30th is vacated we reopened an open calendar date. >> it is quite full do you need a motion. >> excuse me - before we get to there excuse me - folks those folks entering the room the commission will take a short
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break if you want to sit down i'll ask to those popcorns for bryant street stay in the overflow room and we'll be taking up another if you're not here for de harrow go to the light court to review those bryant court will not be heard for some time now commissioners i'll ask for a motion to continue those items. >> i'll move 11 ab, 12, 14, 16 ab to june 30th. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion to continue the items 11 ab, 12, 14, 16 ab.
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>> the b have to be by the zoning administrator. >> excuse me - we should take public comment on the continuance. >> any public comment on the items proposed for continuance? >> i know your stressed and in fact the gentleman immediate neighborhood of hoffman wrote a letter to the commission asking for a continuance because she knew you had bryant and never got a respond but since 12 was here and it is unfair she was smart enough to figure out having a horrendous calendar and no one said you're alive that's go continued once before from april 7th so i want to lay that out there. >> thank you. i apologize. >> thank you for being here all
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afternoon. >> yeah. we would very much like to finish this first dr and now cu and we don't have a pathway group a small relatively small group i'd be so grateful if we can oppose this continuance and be heard today. >> i apologize for that inconvenient you should have been given the option to have our item continues that was a to the planners i apologize if that didn't get that message i apologize did you get that message. >> no. >> there was no message. >> okay any public comment? and i wanted to comment on item
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12 we're here under the law firm the women's we were not notified of an option to actually continue we too would have done see in light of the large calendar and noticed on availability by mr. williams so we requested a continuance i'm a little bit sdoirptd the matter is not going forward any is there any additional public comment? >> okay public comment is closed. campai commissioner antonini. >> we continued it ones at their request it is unfortunate i would have liked to hear it today, i'm amenable to putting it at the end of the calendar it could be 11 o'clock. >> did you want to say
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something. >> okay. >> commissioners there is a motion and a second to continue items 11 ab and 12 and 14 and 16 ab on that motion commissioner antonini commissioner hillis is commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards no commissioner wong snoechls 6 to one with commissioner vice president richards voting against zoning administrator, what say you? >> continue the item. >> we'll take a short break the next item is de harrow it will be a sold hour >> i'd like to remind the members of the audience that the commission does not tolerate disruptions of any kind.
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please silence any devices that may sound off during the proceedings. we expect a lot of speakers so far the next item for 540 de harrow out of courtesy o persons for bryant student may want to use overflow room 416 you'll be able to watch and reenter for bryant street otherwise you'll listen for de harrow for sometime commissioners, we left off regular calendar at de harrow a large project authorization planning department staff you have before you a large project authorization to demolish an existing satiable one with 16 dwelling units this was before you on january 7th and at this
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point the commission decided concerns by the members of the public regarding did importance of preserving light to the adjacent church in response the commission gate of project sponsor dictionary to sculpt the project along the property line that was shared with the church additional items discussed at this point were landscaping public outreach by the project sponsors and the status of existing pdr tenant the commission after hearing the case and discussing the matter continued to march third and until today's date in response to the commissions concerns the project sponsors have skumentd on the north side adjacent to the church and now proposes a 10 foot setback for the full length of the property line adjacent to the church on the four and five floor of the number of units
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reduces from 17 to 16 units that concludes my presentation. at this time. >> project sponsor good afternoon steve for mary tell on behalf of the project sponsor as kimberly stated you asked you to address 3 items with the straight up gregory's and the relocation saint greg's the church foyer was a 4 story windows on the north south and east for de harrow has no effect on the north and east but the sunlight in the south facing 5 feet from the common property line and 3
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feet above street level we have addressed the churches concerns as a result the projects are redesigned do preserve the direct sunlight into the church first, the height of the 540 has within reduced from 4 to 3 underscores in the font fronted and 4 for - >> i've got on the overhead the fourth floor plan okay as you can see the process area is the setback on the fourth floor and the church to the right. >> the fifth floor and setback on the 10 foot section here as well as setback in the previously in the front. >> the elevation the setback a
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elevation along the street frontage at this time and along the rear two floors of setback in the rear that entire 10 foot section this projection in height eliminates over whereon thousand square feet in residential floor the unit count from 17 to 16 units resulting in the loss of two bedrooms we'll willing to make that for the benefit of the church but not eliminating another footage the church wants more of the fifth floor be eliminated is not needed to preserve they're light we're disappointed the church is not recognizing the concessions that of made we have a video
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that shows 10:30 with the proposed video we choose this time as most appropriate when the serves are held as you can see by holding the building back ten feet by both floors the direct sunlight is absorbed concurring the morning housing the church enjoys the sunlight into the foyer for most of the year the offer hanging eves are regardless of what is on the street provided the project is approved we will agree to pay saint greg's a portion to increase the direct sunlight into the church i think that will help on 540 d how far to preserve the sunlight we've offered to make that to support
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that entertainment commission of the eves we've agreed to stop the construction on the wednesday and the police code and have access for the church throughout the construction unfortunately despite those and agreements saint greg's has not withdrawn the opposition and brought a number of supporter here to oppose the project even after this keeping in mind the church choices it to replace the windows within 5 feet of property line they didn't get a sunlight amends and our proposal is code compliant and reduced at the front and 20 at the rear adjacent to the church despite the 40 feet height limit and sacrifices an entire unit at a
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time when the housing units are the city's top priority the staff said this is the right balance and meets the commission and the staff is recommending approval we request you make the same decision a couple of other issues to address first landscaping during the january 6th the commission requested the landscape for the sidewalk adjacent to the property line be modified to be levy privatized and more welcoming the landscape has been rice for the raised curb for the barrier between the sidewalk and he is landscape and then finally the prior tenant was a tenant starting on 2013 and knew when we entered that was a short time lease earlier this year the sounds like available location on
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treasure island and moved there on 2016 and offered rent free for a few months and this is determining their recognition in a letter. >> project team is available for questions i'll show you further plans we're available for questions. >> thank you. >> opening up for public comment a number of speaker cards and few want to line up on that side of the room as i call our name
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(calling names). >> sorry oh, mime imi didn't a parishioner eerie serve on the governing board of church and responsible for the fiduciary responsibility for the church they asked me to speak for the church and the 3 hundreds members simply we seek to save lives we're not asking the development be stopped we generously accept change the problem a portion of the building will block the light and negatively impacting the architectural and the function of the church and i was wanting to show a picture. >> there natural light is an
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essential part of says space is a wooden rotunda through the clear story windows sfants greg's was built to use natural light intentionally it is the first hearing in 70 january you urged the developers so address light and we have been sincerely working in good faith to find a solution we thank the developers for making the changes we fully acknowledge that, however, their project blocks 65 percent of the light during the winter months that's the time of year we need it the most we're asking for a further a small but significant modification to the proposed building just one and 96 square feet and another speaker will describe that more fully i need
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let you you know we fear damage where the sacrifices members lie and it is close to where the demolition will take place and have series concerns about the people that lie in repository i've received more than one hundred personal letters more than 200 and 50 postcards from money in the bay area and the country and other countries around the world who all want to protect the light at saint greg's but finally i wanted to acknowledge 48 folks mother all here we've been here all afternoon people came and left they're other responsibilities and enjoyable things to try to show you, you how much to really
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illuminate the reasons that is important to save the light and saint greg's their representative of the mission i'm available for any other questions about saint greg's presentation. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> once you start speaking gov. will recognize that. >> i was here in january at the first discussion of this and i'm back again to continue it we have met with the project sponsors and while we made progress we didn't. could to a resolution this is a sketch he droop that i'll consider the non-detrimental solution getting back all the light we currently
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have the building would have to be put 20 feet back from the front and the project manager pulled it back ten feet at the fourth level and above will have to be pulled back 35 feet to center no detriment whatsoever when we have proposed in terms of acknowledging that we'd like like to get the best we can but maybe not realistic for us to expect everything this is what we ask the project sponsors to be 15 hundred on the first floor and 11 on the second floor in the tab 3 page 2
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what they've offered is this the before you is what they've offered and the red outlines what we've originally requested on the fourth floor and the fifth floor that amounts 37 percent of what we first asked for not even halfway we're asking at this point they simply add this additionally, the yellow square one hundred and 96 square feet on the fifth floor and that amounts to 45 perished of what we asked for that allows the light to flow both the first floor windows most of time during the morning we're compromising we're skwaisz the rest of the day we actively use the space and again those are
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the windows in question this is the proposed building and proposed 3 windows on the suicides we're hoping to continue to say sunlight to and other people will speak about different issues relating to the project thank you. >> thank you. >> members of the board i'm paul the director of saint greg's church signs e since i've been the pastor we've welcomed 4 hundred members as part of communities i'm is an educator and sit on the board of episcopal church, i have a great opportunity to interact with people about the building and who were we have literally hundreds of people come to be part of our community to learn
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and experience the beauty of who were the light is an essential part of who were during the sole it is a it is significant including christian it we are concerned blocking the light will seriously focus not only worship we told the church we know we'll losses some of the light we are willing to go with the change we know that san francisco needs more housing but asking for a compromise a small restriction for the plan to preserve some of the light that makes sfant greg's to significant for so many people that visit our city we ask you the commissioners to weigh the 14 by 14 foot kitchen area in a
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confined development against this and hope to save the light of saint gregory's for future generations. >> i'd like need the overhead i'm john of gold man architect the architect of saints gregory's church 25 years ago we designed this church 540 zoned m-1 only a cuffing about 12 units no danger of that happening back in the early 90s no a danger going higher than the existing building none was doing industrial western not worried about this situation as resulted because of eastern neighborhoods rezone and
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non-now, one m u but i want to talk about had minor change we think that a significant improvement to light and would be less than one percent of gross residential floor area we appreciate what they've done i've met with them and appreciate their efforts this is a minor additional change i'm surprised they especially\. >> one hundred and 70 net square feet as the rest of the saint guerrero's people here let me show you. >> sir what we are proposing is that the same as the plan
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they have those plans stack except the restriction is 50 foot square feet larger so clearly unit 44 works with the revision and scopes we would support this project with that minor change the roof plan will be affected as shown instead of housing here there will be open that effects the sunlight between the sun angles in the morning as paul saying in the afternoon we're letting go we realize this is asking a lot on this this one extra room to make that the same as room 401 if we can get that we'll be happy by the way, half of my rays clients
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i giddy have real estate i i get it what we're i get it what i'm asking if you were a developer i would do this a lot of good will and i'm available to answer any questions. >> i'm sure. >> i'd like to take this opportunity to ask the members of the public to silence our mobile devices if you don't know how please turn them off. >> good afternoon, commissioners as associated priest and proffer of minute try and a at the theoretical union i'm here to save the light and the saint guerrero's i want to say two things first, as someone that prepares graduate level students for leadership i can say that saint gregory's is a unique
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teaching and learning space we have tufrts by many students they come to see for themselves how a catalyst worship space with a beautiful acre illuminated and working together to create an unforgettable experience there is no substitute for this kind of experienceal learning i bring my other students to worship another saint guerrero's and what we have out of town students they want to go through to experience for themselves light. >> beauty and second as a religious scariest on sunday's and neighborhood children in our free summer camp program i attest to the aesthetic experience that children have in our our church childhood is formed by words and teaching but
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their physical experience the. >> and delight and encurrent the light is a beautiful thing one of the concrete ways in which they come know the glory of god and the spiritual educational value is unparalleled for many people the unique quality of our light is an essential part of experiences i you work you to consider favorably our request for a small compromise that will help to preserve this trurtd resource thank you for your attention. >> next speaker, please. >> ladies and gentlemen, of the commission i'm ricky founded saint gregory's church in 1978 and served for thirty years as the director and still go through there now that i'm
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retired church is a public treasurer and amid the turmoil they deserve like parks worship provides beauty for the public much as a san francisco on are added no charge they experience the devotion that hundreds of citizens the beauty that all investors find was tingling put there we host artistic things at low costs people couldn't find low cost places to perform our beauty interior enriches the work as by day and in light and programs for young people particularly depend on the hospitality and as more public
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facilities are demolished in favor of luxury housing we have a stake in preserving the beauties of saint gregory church enriching the lives of san franciscans unborn their future at stake count in our councils decision their heritage we serve and there's to hand on in the future we san franciscans are rightly proud of the gifts that earlier public spirits donors and architects give us no city has as better aesthetic heritage saint - are already a magnet the huge sangy icon of dancing saints conveys the welcome and honor to all people that make
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your city renowned our city is shift from low income to a broad range of residents that treasure saint gregory's for people all around the clock for all those reasons the natural light in the church benefits so many and richly that blocking it will bring long term cost and regret to the san francisco public for many decades ahead and the church members and donors i binge beg you to decide this case in the greater puck interest thank you. >> >> next speaker, please. >> let me call a few more names
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(calling names). >> my name is olivia i'm a member of saint gregory's moved to san francisco in 1978 the population has grown trembling since i moved here we need more housing i'm in favor of development of the lands but not the project for two main reasons one it threatens the direct light an element of the churches beautiful architecture and two it dangerous the colonel barium - this belongs to the millions of visitors in the city we
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depend on the planning commission to create more than a functional city we don't think you to help to make a beautiful city and saint gregory's with his unique design and light and generous welcome is a space not dark he lived it is a situated space hold the remains of our beloved dead and like other community members i have many dear friends ashes here in the outdoor courtyard with the mosaic by beautiful artists a few feet away from where the builders will build the those who come to remember the dead we need the protection of blasting and construction thank you for
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your work. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm mark i'm a member of saint gregory's the governing body of the church of saint guerrero's a homeowner in san francisco since 1995 and lived in the city since 1979 i'd like to clear up some of the issues about process that tells you sort of how we get got to this place of dispute the developers say they noticed the neighbors in reply that letter should have been sent to saint guerrero's not hand delivered to the church went to the property owner the fiscal dissister and cfo states he believes the letter never arrived at his office you have a copy of his
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letter that is quoting he writes in case you have to defend feel free to say the diocese takes the position the dzhokhar project we the diocese didn't receive the notices they say they held a meeting in july 2014 but not writing to call e-mail or stop by or contact saint gregory's to notifies us on january 16, 2015, a neighbor from castro hill innovative us there was an eir underway for the project the neighbor gave the church copies of the plans and we wrote a letter obtaining to the plans this letter is in our report almost a year after
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that passed with no response two days before christmas on last year the developer knocked on our office door and dropped off drawings since christmas is a busy time we had difficulty responding but the man that testified earlier contacted the developers they then mr. edwards our staff and the developers met for the first time on january this year just two days before the project was scheduled on the consent calendar at our jangle 7 hearing between then and now we've been directly involved in the negotiations with the developers and with the planning department staff we're grateful for the diligence work and to compromise with us we request that the
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additional compromise of square feet be required the developers to preserve the light at saint gregory's thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm a society professor of geography at the san francisco state university and member of the saint gregory's any particular responsibility for the buildings and grounds so i spend a lot of time trying to prevent problems through regular maintenance and anticipating hazards i'm looked at the plan on de harrow i share the concern about the proposed project negatively impact on our light but worried about the impact on the colonel
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boiler room this colorado boiler room with its beautiful mosaic is near our baptism less than 3 feet from the property line you can see how close in a couple of pictures i'll show. >> this is the rural on the right the response time and the granite wall the rock wall of next property in this picture as you can see the line on the front is the top of colorado boiler roumbarum th
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spice smith and wesson the back of columbarum and the property line. >> i'm worried i'm worried how they'll be able to do the demolition the reconciliation or excavation of the solid rock line and the impact of the columbarum just 2 1/2 feet from the property line it this the final resting place our of your child are spaus spouse would you feel safe having this close to the excavation site i don't want to hear this is mixed in with sea and other debris i don't oppose this but prudent and
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principle to relocate the columbarum do keep it into being damaged saint germany's is asking the cost to relocate the ashes in the columbarum to do so. >> good afternoon commissioners i thank in advance for the patience and wisdom my name is julia like any faith leaders in san francisco, in fact, around the world i look to saint gregory's this feeds by imagination and passion for justice i look for saint guerrero's figuratively light
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what is good and beautiful in the human condition today, i'm here representing my boss bishop of the episcopal asked you require modest changes for the proposed building on de harrow to protect the light and do excerpts of bishop marks letter with an the treasures of the city saint guerrero's episcopal church is a beautiful award-winning building in castro hill and threatened with the loss of its natural sunlight because of the developments next door saints gregarious didn't want to stop or hold or diminish diminish the project but wants a commodity solution saint guerrero's unique
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architectural genus rotunda i hope you've been there catches all communities in the city i know more myself i brought countless youth groups to saint gregory's while their parents stay in hotels downtown this church welcomes 4 hundred hunger families each week they gather to get free fresh groceries around the alter and for artists and dancers and usf staff and voters that has world we misunderstood paternity who come to see the amazing icon lit by natural sunlight when desmond thank you, thank you told me how
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entrans by the moment all mural of dancing saints amongst the jewish and catholic this is a moment a moment in the history of the city we need to work together to preserve the rich currently heritage that serves all people in our city and which will continue to draw visits investors and new residents to san francisco far into the future thank you. >> a thank you. >> some warriors fans. >> hi, i'm sammy want to share a couple of exerts written by fifth graders under castro hill this is the first my name is arguing i didn't i'm a student and the live oak i volunteer other saint guerrero's and live in castro hill i like
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helping others in need having building meeting next to themselves reduces the feeling of god light is an expression of god like people on the waltz like are cesar chavez they're a changemakers in the middle of all the great changes of all the great changemakers you see jesus you think they want to see a building blocking a light i don't think so i ask the planning commission doing everything we can to insure saint gregory's light is protected here's not letter i've been coming to saint gregory's on friday afternoons to volunteer they food pantry it is the light that is important to lift the spirits for people to collect their groceries they
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come because they can't afford for groceries due to various unfortunate circumstances and people it is hard to accept the light but having the light shine on them they can hold their heads high is embraces them in their spirit to extinguish that light would be like extinguishing they're light for a better future i like the light it allows me to see the smiles on the people's faces it should continue to brighten the lives of people and here's one more letter i'm a fifth grader if live oak i volunteer we're located on the hill our school has an assembly above the great changemakers he felt happen and excited when the
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light was shining down on the whole church, i oppose the developer at 540 de harrow that wants to block the sun that will take away the light and excitement from the church the light is part of the fun part that is it your understanding stands out i want the planning commission to make sure the light at saint gregory's is protected >> thank you. >> hi, i'm have been a member of the church since i was 5 or 6-year-old and participated in almost every single youth program there i've been part of our youth group, sunday school class and participated in everything one of the most go magical things when i walk in the door
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seeing the sun beams stream in through the high windows and feel like this is what all young kids see the smiling faces of their friends and the sun shining down it is a magical experience i hate to have that go away thank you. >> thank you. >> good morning good afternoon i'm sarah i'm the director of minute try at saint gregory's and the founders the food pantry. 15 years offered from the fresh groceries to over 4. families in the church one of the biggest pantries in san francisco and helped launch 18 other pantries in the city since 2000 and the pantry is set up as you can see
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like a faefrmz under the icon glowing with natural light and give us away tons of food it serves people recent immigrants and elderly grandparents and homeless teens and disabled veterans and run by them two so many of the volunteers came to get food and stated to help out i see how it transforms people's lives in this community run program working go alongside of all ages and welcome those as they've been welcomed that welcome is completely shaped by the design of saint gregory's that matters to our volunteers that the pantry is not tuckered u tucked withdrawing u away in a
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gloomy church basement but groceries is offered to people light lit by sunlight this place is to beautiful you let us inside the front door they find healing and hope that's why more than 200 of our visitors signed petitions in russian >> cantonese and marijuana and spanish and sent them to the mission and one hundred for sent posts cards to the planning commission and why so many of the volunteers are here i want to introduce one. >> good afternoon good evening thank you. i joy going to
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church every week there they've been to nice and kind to everybody that goes there i personally like to ask you, please do us a favor do not put the light in gods house out thank you. >> thank you. >> my name is susan i'm a co-con veteran and worked in architecture in san francisco for a number of years before going back to school to get a doctorate in religion and want to present a letter from david saint gregory's represents the best in architectural for
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episcopal captures after that a small church on a confining lots saint guerrero's has made an expression for visitors rather than look at europe it faces to the west it is not a church of mediterranean or atlantic it is a blend of japan's and orthodox and perfectly suited to the city in the united states san francisco before my retirement i taught in canada and united states and slides and images of saint gregory's played a important part i ask you to preserve the light that tassels falls there the high windows architecturally and in its rig purposes that is useful for the light and greatness i want to
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share the awards for architectural from the administration of arithmetic i have it here the statement includes the building extends the san francisco by the way, with its intimate between indoors and expressed wood structure the church appeals to the devised people of the bay area welcoming all to a home for gods friends and want to finish with a personal request that you save the light in saint gregory's i bring my students here and can't believe this exists thank you very much. >> i'm carl i'd like to thank you for the opportunity to say a
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word i know we don't have a lot of time i'll be brief this beautiful photograph says it all i guess you've all seen that that's the light we're talking about and well again, i'm carl and i've been associated with the church since well, for over 10 years with the food pantry they've helped me i've helped them i love it. >> when i moved here i started back to school went out to college to liberal arts degree and a litter degree and 41 better cappa and have to thank
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saint guerrero's you able able to pack it through that i have more to say - there's a verse he got when i was studying litter it says in this vast dark universe the light and candle of reason to guides our way like to thank you for this beautiful room and natural light we've had today for your work you're doing all of you and thank you, again, for the time you've given us and thanks the
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carpenters for their support (laughter). >> i'll call a few more names (calling names). >> schemed members of planning commission staff and fellow citizens thank you for your kind attention to this important matter i'm here to save the light at saints gregory's my name is katherine a member of saint gregory's and attend services weekly i'm a homeowner and a neighbor of the church residing around the corner for
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over 20 years i work in the neighborhood at nearby usf mission bay i'm a citizen and a voter among my many roles at the church inch served on the vest try as a - as a host on election day an attendant for many concerts and a production manager for the urban forester serves as as wedding planner and funnel planner and a regular weekly hostess for coffee, however, once a tour guide for the sierra club i'm one of the neighborhood walks they were dazzled he would by the dancing saints and delighted in seeing
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their founder john mirror depict there likewise aluminumries from uc berkley lawrence berkley national labs and lawrence wondered over they were thrilled to see their friends and heros and sclaekz included in the host of saints charles darwin and paul and others as a former member of the san francisco reference and visitors bureau i can tell you that people come from all over the country and world just to experience the light and inspiration in that beautiful little church none fails to be uplifted by the dancing saints they speak to all they exemplify the very best in
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each of us because i love it so many i helped to organize the fundraiser to complete the icon project proposed donated to see it through every contribution no matter how small was gratefully received you can see for yourself the brilliant delay i refer to this church as the 15 capita he will of sahapel of sa >> good afternoon. i'm caramel a residence of san francisco and a volunteer since 2009 i've been a have are for seven years
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at the food pantry and occasionally attend the services at saint gregory's and find the life in the building up lifting a place for refuge for me and my daughters and the other people that come here to receive and give food we serve people from so many backgrounds and those of us who stage volunteers love working interest because especially because of food pantry is a beautiful space i often cook at food pantry and take pleasure in serving lunch in the room i see how people are when they get food r and a reacted in their environment i see how people are to what get the food and how appreciative
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they are in the peacefulness of the space i understand that san francisco is changing but the church is not asking you to stop all e all development only agree small change to the current land next door to saint gregory's in order to preserve the beauty we're asking for just from the point of view of saint gregory to change a little bit of the plans to that we should protect this area i thank you for helping to make this little change and the time to be here thank you. >> i have a letter to be made
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part of public and now for something completely difference i'll not talk about the light not talk about saint gregory's at all i'm judy from friends of the jackson park we're a neighborhood that advocates for the green open space and creation of retention of this in our neighborhood the eastern neighborhoods plans has several objectives in section 5 of the open space i'm talking about public parks and open spaces that meets the - should beautify the neighborhood and strengthen the environment always, always friends of jackson park is looking for an increased open space that comes before this commission we mean really open space not just private balconies we are happy this development has the wonderful landscaping and the lovely grass and trees will be
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welcome to the environment and this community allows for the pedestrians to enjoy the respite we appreciate the rooftop bekz decks that make sense to activate whatever open space we can one of the friends of the jackson park to establish good working relationship to encourage the neighbors to support our efforts and given the amount of disruption for the new residents i think that is the least they can and show should do i'm pleased to report the project sponsor will support our proposal we thank them and ask you to consider the needs of all neighbors when deciding on this project given all the building in the neighborhoods we need a carve out awhile
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beautifying the development with the planned and assessable landscaping like on this project we request that you consider our neighborhoods desires for open space and green for pedestrians and smaller attractive projects while turning the phase of this project thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> ladies and gentlemen, of the planning commission my name is mario i've been attending the services at saints gregory's for 17 years i was an agnostic before i set my foot through the doors of this church their gentle and net it's been instructional with the gradual reconnection with my faith button most importantly my ultimate reconciliation with the
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divine and two the regard of the churches communities amongst one another and extends beyond the walls of the capture inspiring and encouraging one momentous occasion happens once a year when the congregation stands around the table and ref could numb - we're being we baptized it a experience two profound to describe we be deprived of this glorious corners would be an understatement if next door can take heed in recreating a living
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june 2, 2016, i'd like to remind the members of the audience that the commission does not tolerate disruptions of any kind. commissioners sounds like an agreement between members of the church and the sponsor so how would you like to proceed like the sponsor to explain what the agreement. >> a joint agreements or presentation of the agreement that good evening steve the attorney for the project sponsor and burton edwards an architect of the member of the church and amy the agreement we would like to announce and seek our approval that number one on the fifth floor we'll reduce by one and 96 square feet a four foot by this shown in drawing numbering in the packet that was submitted to
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you earlier it is on page 5 of section two. >> on the fifth floor planned area in yellow. >> okay that would have been easier. >> on the overhead the overhead okay. so this section highlighted in yellow what the church submitted earlier, and, secondly, that the setback areas on the third and fourth floor will be available as deck space for the adjacent units providing that any parapet and solar panels will not block the additional sunlight from entering the church third a couple- proposes that the commission make a finding that the project sponsor has
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adding to provide access to the southern wall of the church wince the existing building is down the road do repair or upgrade the church, and, secondly, that during the development of the foundation and excavation plan we will work with the church and architects to develop a plan to protect the church discussing construction including do columbarum area okay. that's what we agreed on the vestry has asked me to accept this agreement. >> very good thank you happy to hear that i'm sure we all are and jonas how do we - >> well commissioners as much as they've come to an agreement maybe some people in the public
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that want to speak so we should complete public comment and accept a motion merrimorializie >> let's open up to people not spoken. >> any member wish to still speak to this item. >> spike this is for . >> that is believe it or not i have something to say about that two the item you see here on the overhead is mary lee plan to save pdr and not only is mayor ed lee saying that we should be building now pdr but we should preserve and raining remaining that will wipeout another pdr
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space which is exactly what is taking the jobs and madam clerk, are there any announcements? out of san francisco the eastern neighborhoods plan has protections for pdr before the new director came in and all of a sudden got dropped the eastern neighborhoods eir was based on having the umu include the mixed use and pdr so this eir that is in the eastern neighborhoods needs to be reviewed and i think we should start following this type of policies that are coming from the top and the communities to preserve be it further resolved you guys got to stop letting that go away we need jobs at all levels of society not just housing for rich people but need below collar and middle-income? one more example
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of pdr space going away i urge you to see where we can find pdr ♪ ground floor >> any other public comment on this tome da hall street. >> thank you very much commissioner president fong and members the commission and city staff and members of the public i'm john i've been a member at instant gregory's i sing in the choir and make coffee and the residents bike safety structure helps the kids at camp my wife and i have been attending saint gregory's for 18 years and in in time we've been living in alameda developers met with the neighbors ed reiskin before even coming to the planning board in the city of alameda it works well, because the developments get better, the neighbors are
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happier with the development and the developers are happier in alameda i want to pointed out one recommendations that was in my letter to you a couple days ago for our future consideration percentage please consider isn't it true comprehensive policies from the stivengs requiring future developers and design teams to meet facing with their neighbors before bringing projects this ought to be common sense it seems to me and face to face collaboration works it finally out in the halfway on the 540 project but if developers come and talk to the neighborhoods beforehand as you've seen in alameda an many, many projects and dozens of meetings i've been part of that that makes for better projects that and better neighborhood thank you for your time. >> thank shood
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thank you for your time. >> thank ood thank you for your time. >> thank d thank you for your time. >> thand thank you for your time. >> than thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> frankly i see no benefit to the community we have 16 units adding housing to an area that is motorcade auto with a development that has minimal impact fees that exacerbates this the last time i spoke about the zoning we're witnessing a death by one thousand cuts with each displacement business we losses a little bit more our supply store a small manufacturers e manufacturer a hardware hardware motorist repair shop and pdrs space will think lost to more luxury housing and another small neighborhood business and the kinds of jobs we need to sustain a exists
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workforce finally it is particularly important that the developer work closely with the church on switzerland of noisy activities during the holidays and services and insure that the public is not in danger during demo it will be billed on a site building the project sponsor is agreeable for the same conditions of approval for 130116th street and 40116th street those conditions are a public notification and other that has been lacking in the program i'm alison with the grow responsibly. >> good afternoon commissioners mary speaking as a concerned citizen i want to basically agree with the last
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two comments about the loss of pdr space in the city we're just there is no reason to lose this pdrs we have a option to putting something else on the empowering it would be nice to pay attention to the loss of that and the loss of jobs that go along with i'll leave my letter here read it at ouyour >> is there any additional public comment? >> is there any additional public comment on this item? >> no. >> okay public comment is closed. and opening up to supervisors commissioner antonini. >> certainly happy to see an agreement between the project
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sponsor this is an excellent project exactly what we need 40 in the eastern neighborhoods with the umu we preserve pdr in pdr areas and encourage housing in conjunction areas that was it being done and the business is relocating to treasure island or maybe already they're not lost they're here in san francisco anyway i'll make a motion to approve which is this project which is contributing to one and a half million in affordable housing niece and other benefits with the following changes to what we had before us before the project will eliminate an area on the i believe the fifth floor, in unit 503 move that take away that 14 by 14 space
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one and 96 square feet by mostly the kitchen in a westward direction and making that open space as part of deck conditions number two any parapets on levels three and four will have transparent railings and any kind of light to go through and having a finding that the church has got assess to the southern wall to do any necessary repairs and also steps will be taken to make sure that no damage is done to the columbarum that's the way things are under beginning i dbi and that's my motion for approval. >> second.
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>> commissioner moore. >> thank you to the community presenting personal experiences about the space and it is very compelling i have to believe that in rezoning the eastern neighborhoods from m two umu this what was on other only. >> that's matt haney the protection of light ♪ space >> commissioners just as a point of clarification regarding the finding maybe the project sponsor might want to address a little bit future i'm confused by how - what is vlgdz is regarding the access to the southern wall of the church and might request the project sponsor provides more information. >> before he speaks i want to add to my motion a suggestion that there be a single point of contact this sounds like
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reasonable to me so that the church and the neighborhood can talk just as a reminder in the standard motion is where he a community liaison condition of approval that addressed a lot of that. >> (multiple voices). >> just to clarify the lack the saint gregory's that the project sponsor and the building contractor allows saint gregory's for reasonable access to the south side of the south wall once the existing building is demolished that's the findings we've adding to as well the protection is during excavation. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> no, thank you. >> one minor correction you were referring to gralz align
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three and four i think that is 3, 4, 5. >> let's modify to make that 3, 4, 5 thank you. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to approve the project as proposed excuse me - as amended in the agreement between the church and the project sponsor to eliminate one hundred and 96 square feet in a 14 by 14 area the sebtsdz on the third floor are to provide transparent railings are parapets the project sponsor will provide assess to the southern wall of the church, that the project sponsor shall develop a protection plan for the church in the columbarum during the excavation on that motion.
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excuse me - commissioner fung deputy city attorney kate stacy i still think that would be a good idea for the commission to clarify condition 3 i'm not sure what was meant by access is that pedestrian or repair >> i believe access for repair to the church southern wall. >> i'll let the commission. >> we'll know there is damage to that wall there's water damage we ask after the building is down the road question have access to make reasonable repairs at our expense. >> you're okay. >> that's your intent and, yes allowing them to make the repairs from the project precedes with the next phase. >> very good commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner
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president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. >> all right. for the benefit of the public items 11 ab, 12, 14, well 13, 15 ab and 16 ab have been continued to june 30th that places us under our 3:30 calendar for the case on bryant street and x at the same address for a conditional use authorization and large project authorization good afternoon. good afternoon rich department staff joined by kate from the moechlsz mayor's office of economic workforce development that a large project authorization and conditional use authorization for the promoted project onramp 2000 to bryant street and per planning code the project requires xrufks
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from the planning commission to you remove 3 dwelling units under the large project authorization the project is seeking moichgsz to the planning code requirements for a backyard or rear yard ground level ceiling height and serotyping loading and flexible units or the modification for the dwelling units. >> since the original public notice the project has modified in the amount of lands as part of lands dedication and code enforcement on the roof deck and not require a expectation the project will result to address the land site it relates in two sites the principle project in a lot measuring two hundred busing plus and dedicated site or the mayor's office of housing and community development that is 95 by 20 or 19 thousand square feet
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the revised dedication meets the requirements of the planning code and in addition he provided on amended motion as well as the public correspondence that has been received since the original packet publication specifically go with regards to this motion i have a couple of amendments i need to make on page 17 of the motion under the finding on the policy i'd like to add a statement that basically states the project includes 3 onsite affordable units for rents and will dedicated a portion to the mayor's office of housing and community development on page 25 the project i'd like to make an amendment it states further stipulate it decades for the mohcd that will develop the land and should the charter amendment pass 3 onsite brt units overall it includes the demolition of
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the 6 building on the project site and a new mixed use building search warrant one and 99 dwelling units with 7 thousand empowering or trade shops which will be divided into 3 spaces and ground floor presidio and one car share and 84 sfoochz and one and 28 class 1 bike parking spaces and class 2 bike parking spaces it includes a mix with 82 two bedrooms and one bedrooms and norms one serotyping freight loading westbound the middle-income alley that has common open space with a roof terrace to date the department has received numerous correspondence in support and opposition as i can mentioned all the
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correspondence been received since the original packet has been provided to you the project is exempt from the mission 2016 interim controls tennis e since this provides land in an amount equivalent the 33 percent of the units as listed under planning code section the project sponsor will provide 3 affordable unit dwelling units for rents and answered into a costa-hawkins agreement the project whether satisfy the inclusionary housing by subsidizing the lots and dedicating the wlapd to the mayor's office of housing for others purpose of developing the affordable housing based on the density study one and 36 units what about creates on the density bonus in the project were to pursue the addition the
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project will have been provided to provide 16 percent of 2, 3, 4 r 23 affordable units on the project sites mohcd has decided to accept it the staff recommends approval are conditions the project complies with the applicable requirements of planning code and the objectives and policies of the general plan that project is in a zoning with residential ground floor pdr ground floor pdr and site upgrades with corner obnoxiously and private and corner open space that is consistent and respect the appropriate mass and scale relevant and the project complies with the hiring program and as one and 99 new denials to
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the city's horticulturelists using the planned dedication to safety the inclusionary housing requirements this requirements appraise a unique opportunities for more affordable units than riders through the onsite affordable housing option and finally the project will fully utilize the eastern neighborhoods plan controls and pay the impact fees the project sponsor is present and has prepared a presentation in addition kate hart will i from the mayor's office of housing and community development will presents that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> project sponsor please. good evening kate hartley cpr with the mayor's office of housing and community development i'll be brief the mayor's office of housing does accept the plan in conformation with section 419 of the code we are pleased to accept if it that
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that and she does the owned or omitted by over 2 and a half times and exceeds the in lui payment by the value of the lands dedication exceeds the onsite payment by over one and a half times it requires the project is shovel ready an additional benefit it will be delivered ready to go and clear of environmental hazards this is a difficult we're in agreement the mission needs more affordable housing now this project does provide a significance number of affordable housing units which the communities and the city needs mohcd were to go out and buy a operational and develop the same
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units they'll be half because of the lands being expensive we're providing the financial for the critical without taking on the acquisition costs and excited about the potential for the arts programming and will side as our custom a request for proposal for a cbo verbatim who can do the art space we plan to issue an revenue right now with the approval of entitlements and is construction schedule will take the normal course we'll select a developer we'll provide predevelopment funding and then the developer will submit the architectural design plans for permitting and we should have this parcel on line quickly and
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just for the record the funds for in parallel is not from the 50 prop a it is sub financing and immediately available that's it i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> very good thank you very much. >> okay project sponsor. >> good evening, commissioners i'm nick project sponsor for the 2000 bryant street project as you recall we requested that continuance over the past year in order to address the concerns from the communities staff and this commission while over that times maids many pragmatic and changes to the plan your offer riding goal to maximize the affordable housing production on our site that's what we've heard over and over from the communities we're happy and excited to come before you
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for three hundred and 35 rental units 41.5 are permanently are rental units for residents making no more than 65 annual income it is the most in the past 15 years and at 41 percent the highest percentage of affordable housing been achieved in the shia city without benefit of height and bulk i'd like to pulling state not an easy decision far better to have the 17 percent onsite that is mandated by the board of supervisors recently but while working with the mayor's office of housing we've been able to find out how to maximum missed to get the maximize of affordable housing produced we're ready to move
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forward and produce the housing immediately we've engaged a union significant try contractor as our general contractor with significant try with the contractor we work with the trades we've competence with the building trades council to find a way to work with everybody on this project that's really any statement we're here our architect john architecture is here and steve my land use interest will discuss land use issues and our general contractor is here to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> i think we're ready to put up the slide show. >> go ahead. >> it is equivalent on our
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screen there we go so john thank you for the opportunity to present this project i'll go a brief overall and be here for any questions walk us through the 3 basic plans where we started as you can see on the screen with a full using the entire site for the market-rate project the blue areas are street level or trade shops the area in the upper left the leasing office for the tenants and the yellow are stoop units two middle-income breaks that assess the podium that is compliant we've heard from the community members area worked with the staff to change at plan to include an alley as you can see the second version in the fall 2015 two buildings with an alley almost through the center on the left side and you see we
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there's the amount of square feet the blue blocks off the alley and reduced the parking area we then went back to the community and brought we're squalling it the communities building alternative the diagram on the left side a request for 10 thousand square feet of pdrs and an affordable project on the right side we turned that into a plan and seconds on the left side again we've shrunk the park on the ground floor and expanded the pdr and the shop a cafe on the lower left-hand side corner in the leasing office in communities activity areas around the upper left as you can see a my mind break which is an alley a amuse that goes from
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florida through bryant street 25 feet widest allows access to the ground floor in the buildings creating a greater than opportunities for pdrs and art space up to 11 thoughtless square feet and on the left side is a unique and zinc new affordable housing 100 percent affordable housing project that was just described two large courtyard they're facing a courtyard or facing out to a public street and on the left side a large escape facing the south with similar units on the courtyard or the muse the design inspiration drawn from the brick and warehouse so a
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brick building with ornamental and the main entrance is a terracotta facades two stories high with the entrance on the street the brick is carried to the ground with stone basis and others storefronts in the next slices this is the view on 18th street and florida it is typical of chairss in the neighborhoods ground floor use 17 feet high so very good space for restaurants and cafes and any other commercial use we have obnoxiously for traffic calming and planting strip deny the parking and sidewalk again that is the woods storefronts at the restaurants space and a little bit of detail on
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the windows and juliette balconies this is a view on there under with the trade shops those are commercially viable high 17 trade shops and from makers we met with sfmade and other groups in the mission ideal spatz where studios have available and with a accessory use on the right side the middle-income break as you can see widest enough to allow light and air to assess those unions to face this is a view down the muse with a interrogating planting it is open to the public during daylight and serves as off street loading an inviting space that will connect the buildings to the neighborhoods and add a middle-income street for pedestrians those are slides in
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the tenderloin in the national forests as an inspiration not a straight shot but a maurnd with paving. >> as you can see the slide we have a response to every issue raised by the communities i have postcards from many, many people in the neighborhoods supporting the project i'd like to pass out the ground floor does have a mix of uses 11 thousands pdrs with flex and ground floor spaces and achieved by reducing the parking count to a mere 4 point plus spaces per units full code compliant you've been in consistent with no planning requirement to replace those the
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city calls for pdrs to locate in pdrs and for umu to be redevelopment for housing is sifkt higher percentage than elsewhere in the city it fully meets the umu the 68 percent height limit in the neighborhoods provides for lands in the dedication and meets the planning code height and open space, parking, bike parking and units closer with minor designs and by repairing the two vacant units with three hundred plus with affordable units every conditional use has been met there are a continues call for moratorium that moratorium was a rejected the solution to the housing crisis to build market-rate and affordable housing and this project does
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that over the last two weeks we've showers shared with the mayor's office and become clear no more room would you tell us jeopardizing the financing they are not able to offer financial incentives to change that equation including 16th street last month that on a site included 16 percent affordable the demolition of one thousand plus square footage and we're proposing 41 percent and 11 thousand square feet of pdrs on a site exception it is on fair you consider this project on its merits that project deserves your support jonas.
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>> okay opening up for public comment rob poole. >> excuse me - there's organized opposition to this we'll provide 10 minutes. >> jonas thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners my speech a longer i'll have time through this is an improvement it still didn't meet the united call for one hundred union built with the affordable built at the same
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time and one to one replacement of pdr the labor communities alliance is calling for 50 percent dedicate to affordable housing not 41 with the percent difference we can come up with something but new york city were 23 hundred square feet of more pdr it should go without saying a influx into a low income communities there will be negative impacts the following maps is an indication the list evacuees around the proposed a nexus from your attitudes fidel is requesting a expectation from the reduction requirement and what i want to see a better project built the code requires the mass breaks ever thirty feed widest
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in the massive like this exceeds the 200 feet width that requires this break and he's proposing to make it narrower just 25 meeting feet not thirty overseeing pictures are awful of sunshine but when you have an 8 are 6 foot building you'll have darkness it should be tiered and setback in the middle of his site not at the side yard supposed to be breaking up his project he's putting it on the affordable side not acceptable to the communities the presents plan calls for replacing all the ground floor the alliance of labor asking for the entire ground floor to are pdr
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the parking is not necessary and desirable the project is well served by the business routes with the 27 bus that stops outside the project and 33 and 9 are outside the residents will be up for the next generation of tech workers that use carvings and lobbyist we're building for the next generation cars are at a minimum we have i thought iowa was mayor's office in agreement we were good evening to get down the ground floor as pdr instead of parking the critical parking could replace some of the 50 thousand square feet of pdrs we'll be losing with this project and minimally the neighborhoods want parking they don't want to see free parking spaces go away to the neighborhoods the vast majority
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of neighbors don't want pollution or hear the loud alarm that sounds 24/7 every time a consider exists the garage if someone is not happy you should do with the environments the use of pdr is a perfect fit for the housing above i'm a director of a nonprofit housing sorry a in time arts development company that has 14 art spaces we super no problem with your neighbors we're quiet and do art we're not loud but the city it gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to the space that the at least we can do is see art space replaced that would honor the mayor and to remain the lost pdrs space i showed you in
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