design challenges. >> call the question. >> a motion to continue commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. >> commissioners that places us on item 17 case 4529 18th street arrest plaintiff good evening erica planning department staff before you a conditional use authorization for reactivate the ground floor incremental tenant space an 18th street it - located and front of the lot to expand the one

dwelling unit to a 4 bedroom units the commercial unit located along the front is with a show you room and office the planning department has signed petitions in support and opposition to the property project that were included in our pathways one additional letter of support by the participating jonas i have- and san bruno copies of shadow study by the project sponsor and photographs by the neighbor in the rear building on the property and lastly san bruno a draft motion with minor corrects that was e-mailed earl this is week and in exclusion that is neshl created one single-family dwelling and other compatible will limited uses located in the

vicinity the proposed operation is established locally owned businesses and contribute to the very ability of the neighborhood and consistent with the residential design guidelines given the conditions the staff recommends conditional use authorization and i'm concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> project sponsor. >> hello. thank you commissioner vice president richards for considering our cu application i'll be representing any family and my partner and i to expand above the residence my partner and i have lived there for 8 years we're educators my parents teach and my partner i

go lecture and work for an educational nonprofit our individual salaries from 40 to 70 percent of the medium a home for two reporters and two people in the home we plan on living here a long time i'll address the proposal and finally, the cu to begin the petition sets a high - this is not the case and the petition was endangering we've maintained a good relationship with the neighborhood and those errors we want to san francisco transportation authority and not removing a rental unit and particle my - our friend supports this in a believer and

also here, and, secondly, our platoons our plans to set a new height variance for the neighborhood our building has at all to the left and right they've reached the maximum height our house is less than 20 percent no handrails as force the island to briefly review our work to address the neighborhood concerns we began with the meeting in 2013 we learned about planning department will extension and held a preapplication meeting no march 2015 i'm walk you through the original plan from - including a rear arrowhead shape

and essentially i mean there is the design of our nightclub buildings shown in power up anticipates closed lightwells they're building were you turned to the property lines, however, ours in yellow don't wrap around the lightwells our design provides lightwells that open freely to the sun i would like to note our neighboring believes have heir rims to the lightwells than our building those romance are hero and here and finally we additionally incorporated of foot earn setback for the neighbors non-conforming skylight near the property line and the 6 for the setback we've created for that level and after that meanwhile we made the following changes to

the plans we removed the northern corners shown in orange and matched the lightwell to blue and offset matched opposing to the south and other changes in august of 2015 plans were you distributed to the one and 50 foot neighbors and got additional remedies we addressed in 2017 most significantly we completely removed an aurp deck there was a - we setback the front of upper level go 18 feet from the front bay and all points 15 feet if the building

face and increased the depth of the lightwell by 20 percent on the eastern side in january 2015 we met with 3 neighbors to see the - we held two more open hours in 2016 with 6 to 8 neighbors to talk about the plan modifications we cut over the rear to fufrlt increase the light to the lightwell and setback a minimum of 3 foot plus from the eastern property lines and added that roof to add interest for the neighbors that looked down in our home the higher homes to the north and south and west of us now our eastern neighbors asked us to consider cross views for

an additional on their building and any impedes our project my cause our eastern neighborhood we consulted with dbi that caused concerns and setback on the eastern property line whether allow sunlight into the leblt eve not into their design are the southern windows, however, sorry the southern windows on our upper level is not precociousable and mounted above the heats - we're offering to add privacy glazing to eliminates cross views with

that vertical addition and further like to point out our eastern neighbors are cornices we are installing privacy glass they can remove the perceptives corner news there's been concern about the upper level we've designed increase in the building permit i building permitted this avoids the need for bulk stairways and it is minimally viable and we've been asked to remove the level it is setting north of the lightwell opposing openings this will have

a large impact that xhapdz an office for my partner and myself we removed did roof deck additional made other cuts larger angles here on the lightwell could increase the light or a setback or eliminate a great watertank to slope that roof to the northern lightwell we've reached a resemble middle ground regarding the size of our home i that to the briefly clarify our square footage a - our stairs take up disproportionately space and discount those under 3 thousand square feet it is in context with our neighborhood reference in the last 3 years the mls listed 50 over 3

thousand square feet and we're in comblieps wire first year first we are removing non-conforming rooms in the house and as consolidated the footprint and provides emergency access to backyard landscapes i met with the fire department to design a leaguer quieter that encourages safety all around and finally like to review the storefront that was constructed in 1909 and locally operated a design office previously an evict office we're proposing to keep the existing storefront we feel this is in scale with the adjacent commercial uses in similar zoning the 3-r reports list this as a store in 1909 in

a footprint of the store no complaints with filed and parking we're open to have zones to help to lessen those concerns that is a longs process and our goal to benefit the neighborhood we realize our frontage will have impacts we've worked to minimize them if the commission feels 24 not enough we've gone beyond in areas of disagreement eliminating the upper roof and deepening the light openings. >> thank you very much opening up for public comment commissioner chair we granted a 10 minute presentation to the opposition. >> 10 minutes covering 3

speakers please. >> mr. chair thank you. >> overhead please. commissioners thank you thank you for your time we represent all of the adjacent neighbors to the east and west and south of the property project my name is a annette

from the moment neighbors first learned of that project we've consistent express strong opposition over density of use from a 22 wide lot and extensive light and bulk and mass he's made numerous changes from the rdt are the hose made no changes that address those concerns we appeal to you to consider our request for reasonable modifications to reduce the height of the building by roving the fourth floor and reduce the commercial use for this residence what about appropriate sized for the lot million dollar a local i live at 3, 4, 52418th street next door this matter comes before you as

a rinse statement of commercial use seconds that is actually a proposal for continuation of commercial use and a construction of a 4 story home and needs to be considered operation of current store caused problems to driveways blocked by customers or delivery vehicles and what garbage and recycling on a walk in a single weekend following the notification 68 neighbors signed the petition opposing this not in opposition to the boards ope neighborhood opposes the total i would for commercial space and four story residences it has been the excess density of use and is dimension of that lot are unusual one and 22 feet wide and narrowly long there's a 3 story

residence that is occupied bid tenants in common and an application for an adu has been filed with the planning department and given the desire important affordable housing in the city we ecp this will be granted at some point in the future with the addition felt commercial use results in 4 ooze on a single lot with no off-street parking and the ability for unauthorized uses or short-term rentals in the future the obvious potential can be seen in the first floor plan and design, however, it sieves the technical requirements staff is recommended approval we ask it be included to first an express requirement a truck loading and customer cars not block the driveways of just a minute neighbors and hours of operation be limited toe normal hours and

neighborhoods not substantive to customer parking and foot traffic we hope, however, the commission will consider the totality of the circumstances and exercise our discretionary powers to reduce the density on this narrow lot. >> commissioners nickel and dimed a kearney live behind the proposed project we're concerned about the height and mass of this proposal it will result in 5 thousand thirty square feet of buildings on a narrow lot on 2 thousand plus its scale is in appropriate the planning code had asked the gentleman to minimize from the

street view the bulk and mass in fact, the building will a tower that looks at on the rear yard and homes to the set the 40 feet height explodes the height on the buildings only either side 31 feet and the other at 26 feet and inconsistent where the existing ceqa step down with the natural grade you'll see that from on the perspective this is an aerial view of the existing property and all adjacent lots note house the existing building gradually step down from natural grade to the land now look at the 3-d render of the project

from the same viewpoint the fourth story towers over the two-story building adjacent to the east similarly explodes the height to the four story to the west and on the rear the lot boss of those hours are on a slightly heir grade and the will impact the privacy of surrounding neighbors decks on the third and fourth floors look down on neighbors yard and look contradicting into the rear structure on the same black it effects the light and privacy due to the excess number of windows and looking at the fourth floor plan as you can see that shown and three hundred

plus the floor envelope is much greater than 5 hundred and 50 feet that is 40 percent of the fourth story is not used as floor space but to have skylight ceilings and those two empty spaces block light and further reduce the lightwell light to the neighbor on the east the western wall didn't match the lightwell of neighbor the adjacent homeowner to the west has four windows facing a blank wall despite an abundance of light shows northerner 16 windows facing east and it number that should be reduced asia privacy glass eliminated and the gentleman showed studies hostilities the significant walls at the fourth store on the

east and west proposals at the height of summer the 6 windows facing south and ante east and currently enjoy direct sunlight most of day in allowed did proposed building is shade those windows by midday on the west side the 3 residential units have 9 windows that face east that will have direct sunlight and those have considered solar panels but the showed studies the potential for solar that can significantly impacts as you can see he seeks to maximize light and while depriving the neighbors of sun this proposal is executives for this narrow lot we ask the commission to reject it and the following

modifications remove the fourth story are require the gentleman to eliminate the unused space reserved for sunlight and two match the elements and 3 reduce the number of windows facing the adjacent building and install privacy glass where noted to address the concerns of density we ask you not recommend the request too much is property, however, if it request is approved we'll ask the modifications previously requested regarding private driveways and hours of operation be added to the motion wen we believe in proposal can give more thoughtful consideration to the priv and light of the adjacent neighbors without compromising the owners assess to light and it's desire to

build a large project thank you for your time and consideration. >> thank you. >> opening up for public comment i have one speaker card. >> hello good evening, commissioners thank you for your time my name is although, i live 3 doors down from the proposed project at 4417, 18th street i've been a realtor since 2007 and i'm all for development absolutely and all for the gentleman for the home but it is out of character with the neighborhood it will be the stooeld taller and stick out like a sore thump hose proposing will be liquor this and the

other photographs photos he's stone the, gradually come down it is been very hard to engage in meaningful dialogue with the gentleman hose been living in chicago in fact, the first meeting with the neighborhood was via skype i've lived in my home since 2012 and only seen the gentleman 5 times that's it been recent the only reason approval from the eureka valley association he tell him he lives there he can do everything he wants on 3 floors the gentleman partners are here but you won't hear from them because of their legal agreement with the gentleman i highly suggest you speak with david and tommy they

with the immediate neighbors on 18th street will be highly impacted and again, the gentleman can achieve the same okay outcome in 3 floors the 4 floor will only have skylights bringing in great light for m the gentleman he seize the bout of light and taking away neighbors llth the decision you'll make today will set and precedent for this neighborhood again thank you for your time commissioners. >> thank you, sir. >> any other additional speakers for this project. >> no additional speakers seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i dollar a lot of things i like about this project most notably the drawings looks

like that belongs in the neighborhood i didn't think anyone could 0 do that and build something that is built one hundred years ago it is extremely good there's the issues maybe i can talk to the project sponsor for a second if you want to come up here great there are is couple of things the first one is looking at the deck in the back here you know it seems large i'll think that the deck on the fourth floor can be minuteized you have a roof that separates the deck from the edge of the building i mean it is a pretty big deck that might eliminate issues of privacy. >> and then not sure whether

you need the fronts and back deck on this in that something i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say the neighborhoods talked about the fourth floor i'm in favor you having but a way to consolidate that you have the skylights which are for the floor blow. >> but those should be outside the periphery of the fourth floor the fourth floor should end and the skylight a floor blow that takes a big section out of the fourth floor that impacts the neighbors and not gain anything you mentioned about collecting e collecting rain water if this is that important in the total scope of things that makes that fourth floor a nice size studies you can have the drafting tables and a bath and a good-sized bedroom

and one deck that have have a reasonable good size and the other things they've asked for matching the elements that i'm not sure if they match or not but in your opinion do they match. >> on the eastern side they match but needed the 2/3rd's over laptop and increased do developed of lightwell 3 feet to the east. >> it sounds like their 3 feet deep. >> 3 foot 8. >> that part is good but i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say making those match exactly the desire lightwells of the odds that sounds like one of the things you've talked about privacy were needed to eliminate the cross viewers that's one the requirements and i'm not sure about reducing the number of

windows facing the adjacent buildings a question of privacy off those buildings the windows but i think we're not too far if a having something that can be done i think that is a good project i clearly support the commercial space on the empowering there are restrictions the neighbors asked for easy enough to do whoever occupies that space as a restrictions on loading and the operations seize at 6 o'clock someplace but those are some of the things i see that could still keep that fourth floor intact but lee allow more light into some certificate adjacent neighbors victims i'll see what

my fellow commissioners have to say. >> can you pop up one .3 and talk about. >> is that visual to you. >> yeah. yeah so walk us through i think some of the concerns we're hearing from the neighbors your autograph got a lot of mass up there in you know blocking some of the neighbors lights in it smokeless is it so under to accommodate a two-story month room >> not the living room and kitchen area below that area. >> all right. a double height space and the southern part of house is over here that will be the part that impacts the light and

then the one tanks mentions for that gray water in the top of stairwell we can or more that and lower that by several feet and give for light to the lightwell we wanted to keep the gray water tapping. >> what about the issue of their people have talked about eliminating the fourth floor i don't care think you need to do that but consolidate the uses imyou're trying to build a second story room above the kitchen you can accommodate your program without that why not do that. >> if we lose mass take it off the southern side that is the most impact of light the

northern side not to the north of the lightwells yes. >> so, i mean i don't think we'll redesign this i suggest you all sitting down with the neighbors and figure out how to reconfigure that fourth floor to get our program but kind of minimize the bulk and impact that fourth floor creates so i mean that is what the causing some of the problems i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say. >> commissioner moore. >> if i look on plan a-13 and the mixed use a-3 one and from the elevation it makes me laughter in terms of of this it seriously fails partially because i'm sorry. >> again from a that have the

history it fails partially because it does the facade is there made in in a cookie cutter you apply them 1, 2, 3 this is did the it falls apart if you have a fourth floor not show a contemporary railing on the balcony in a manner that you do but pop up the parapet or the top of the building but what is a 3 and a half parapet on the upper floor that is pulled back as an attempt on a historic impression rather than letting them clash in a manner that's one point ii building that the suggestions made on how impact the neighbors with the fourth

floor you need to think it through from the inside out how do i create housing on top of without getting the push back by which privacy privacy is effected by which you are effecting the privacy for others this is a concern we almost all talk about and as i got the memo it is clear that the drawers shown don't show the interior of the room this project has to reshape in a manner that is respectful and accommodating to the privacy concerns that involves match of the lightwells might mean matching of cutting back the upper floors including the deck i'll agree with commissioner hillis as well i think that commissioner antonini

said it why do you notice two decks that is two is small spaces that gather and connect them a lack ever moaning on the upper floor that has to do with with not much justification why it is there i think i'll take it to another discussions with the neighbors i'll expect that you reconsider the facade treatment with significantly more expressed patent parapet as as far as the concerns the operation of the commercial space i'll agree with everyone asking for the delivery in conflict the driveway indeed our operating hours i'll suggest we send this project on for further discussion between the

neighborhoods and what the commission pretty much in principle agrees with. >> commissioner wu. >> thanks i agree with the comments of commissioner moore and commissioner hillis i think that you know there should be some consideration to reconfiguration of the back floor maybe removing the study no more two-story kitchen and leave it to the project sponsor work with the neighbors to figure out what role works we don't want to redesign only give the direction. >> weighing in as a look at this i think this is we two much and have a hard time supporting a fourth floor you have a arts and family room 4 hundred and two large decks and a big skylight and an atrium that is

an incredible amount of massing that impacts our neighbors they made a good case in their - i definitely wouldn't approve this project but send that back and my direction will getting get rid of the fourth floor there is a lot of square footage there upgrade seems like that is made for a family of 20. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'll agree that probable needs for work and agree with commissioner moore on just first on the design the parapet if you carry the historic conservation elements of first 3 floors you don't want a railing that if harmony news that is easiest he will enough to do if you still have a deck you have to make those windows fit into the architecture that you have been

others on the rest of the house if you keep the fourth floor i agree with it was significantly condensed and drop of area down that is open and just has the skylights of three story you have to look at the matching of the lightwells and dropping that roof down with the rain clerk sounds like it is good for me we didn't talk about the lower floors commissioner vice president richards did if this year areas could be cut a little bit and allow more light into adjacent neighbors and make those rooms smaller i'm not saying you have to make the rooms smaller but get more matching that would be something that people probably will favor

those are the suggestion and probably going to move to continue this project what do you think jonas like july 14th and sure july 14th and twit both work. >> what do you think. >> i'll recommend. >> we need to ask the architect and the neighbors if they have time to work this out this is an negotiated design we've given a push back and if this is a compromise i need to be convinced a balance what we're supposed to approve and seriously impacting the neighbors this moment light. >> i have a question for mr. washington we have a rh2 lot with a commercial structure a

dwelling unit and dwelling unit; is that correct. >> that's correct. >> the expansion of the small dwelling unit is a large house not a demolition of a dwelling unit the percentage of the area host is not paramount to the demolition is so small this is the case. >> i also support of neighbors in reducing the number of windows as well we really have to live literally right on top of each other and have a lack of privacy is unnerving and did we select the day for the tall ones i'll suggest july 21st we can bump if it you're not ready. >> i'll not recommend

july 21st. >> can we hear from the option. >> ask the architect also. >> is the earth here. >> we'll ask the earth as well. >> july 21st is the earliest i'll, out of town for a portion of that town to be able to have meaningful discussions where the gentleman we'll need some time. >> okay. and the architect thank you and the architect the architect. >> architects are not here we have a structural engineer but i'm representing so i can speak for this we're open to whatever

time. >> 8 weeks because of neighbors for the being available. >> i'll recommend august 4th. >> that sounds like a good idea. >> second. >> so is that continued? >> i'll not recommended the 11 you have a very full calendar. >> september september 15th. >> that looks at good. >> that looks at good. >> are you going date of birth here september 15th. >> yes. >> september 15th. >> i guess that's the motion all right. commissioner a motion to continue this to september 15th

commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and commissioners that places us in your discretionary review calendar ninth avenue. >> good evening, commissioners nan planning department staff the item before you is a public initialed discretionary review requester for ninth after the proposal to construct a new

second story single-family units and the structure will be approximately 4 thousand plus gross square feet and includes the evacuations and a new curve cut and landscaping the subject property is zoned rh1 d in a height and bulk and it is with residentials single-family home dwelling units and depth varies within the neighborhood the dr requester sites the concern with the massing at the setback and impacts to the middle-income open space by maya angelou in the rear since publication of case report the department has not alleged public comment, however, i want to clarify the port ironically notes the option from a

association the socialization had no position but an individual member submitted a separate letter with concerns of the project the residential design team rdt and in general support of design the staff recommends not take dr the project is one family-sized dwelling unit for the period of a significant housing demand the mass and scale request the residential design team and appropriate for the development on the underutilized lot and have impacts with the system and it meets all requirements planning code that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> thank you

dr requester. >> you have 5 minutes. >> good evening. i'm agreeing nonetheless live next door to the proposed project on ninth avenue many our presentation my neighbors and i will go over the project that has critical elements of residential design guidelines section 4 of guidelines states it is essential for the xhashltd with the surrounded buildings to preserve the neighborhood character the fundamental problem is the projects violation of that guidelines now by age b a little but a lot this

a 4 thousand three hundred plus square feet house on the street side present 4 stories above and no other building on the block presents more than 3 that will be twice the average square footage of the 12 existing houses on the block and 28 percent leaguer man than the largest house on the blockage the skoenl to the lot size will be 78 percent of the other homes one and 3 percent versus 48 percent the developer has not - he asserts many homes in forest hill that is as large are larger but that is just isn't true

his support a exhibit h a list of 7 house in the meltdown vicinity and presumably took his best shot this proves his contention first only 3 of the hours are arguably under the immediately vicinity one is 5 blocks away and 3 on the hill and completely out of sites of ninth avenue in a different setting of the remaining 3 there are an ninth after the two are substantial smaller ninth is going 27 percent smaller with a square footage to lot sized robber it is 64 percent compared to the one and 3 percent and similarly 2200 ninth it is on a

double lot is 11 percent smaller with a ratio to lot size on 50 percent compared to the one and 3 percent of the developers robber the third house on ninth is actually a block and a half away to the north in the vicinity and while compatible liveable spaces ; moreover, it sits on the downhill does the street from the street is present a mankind 2 and a half story home in order for the developer to get this into the lot extend the house into the rear setback and

5 feet further than the house on the other side the setback results in sight lines into the rear bedroom window and yard and in a modify backyard we'll see be hemmed in with a massive wall as noted when permitted by the planning code building expansion might not be appropriate and leave the surrounded neighbors cut off in a open space that's exactly our case the thinking tuition results in a significant intrusion in the middle-income open space on the houses on our block and above that it is internal this open space can't be physically usesed the corridor it provides a significant community asset and

once protected setting back back the larger rear yard setback and matching or reducing the footprint of proposed building the developers >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> you'll have an opportunity to respond to questions. >> thank you speakers in support of dr requester kathleen (calling names). >> i'm derrick your honor and thank you. good evening we live directly across the street and have for the thirty plus years welcome the addition of a new house not generally a fan of

getting between people what they want i was happy to get involved there are limits and agnus talked about the overall size problem but this project is also out of character and scale with regards to two earthal features the massive two-story glass bay that projected 5 feet and the massive architecture that sournldz the entrances the problem is equivalent in the 3-d rendering of the proposal in the package if i can have that up. >> overhead please. is that on the computer. >> so this is the rendering and as you can see the two-story glass bay that faces the front

cantonese the interior stairwell and around the entrance and further ore and this mesh this large bulk to the left over the garage i mean those features are out of proportion but incompatible with the nearby houses made clear by the exhibit d presentation so not visible i think you have it on your screens this house is in the center and there's nothing on either side of that that many in any way comes close to the two grass structure or those massive architecture a modest calm block at night the

two-story glass bay within is a giant glowing latin lantern those feefrnz with not necessary and exactly are the guidelines prohibit from the guidelines proportion is equivalent and the place of disorders doors and the scale and the building features including the bays and entrance must be proportional and with respect to bay windows with on illustration that is similar to what we have here and a belief word about the developer having objected a large number of snatches if i may we'll present that in rebuttal. >> i'd like to at the present time, present a letter from one of the signatureries.

>> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> additional speakers i've called line up. >> we live immediately behind and above the proposed house i want to be clear that is not true the obtaining neighbors refused to meet with the developer acquit the opposite from the begin we sought to revolve this through negotiation but the developer recused roosted the outside scale the project we stated the offer riding problem with the excess size of the house in comparison was a smaller home and as at the second meeting the architect stressed modifications that have made as much as moving the house on the lot and lowering it's

height slightly but even with that instruction the house will be turn around it's neighbors and no change was offered by way of reducing the mass of hours by pushing it back they aggravated the neighbors privacy and combroechl on the green space when i asked the architect to reduce the building height his answer you have to understand something about how modern architecture is done those days we build from the inside out and want to make the house as big as possible that brings the maximum profit at the end of the meeting i asked the developer to do more to reduce the height his response i quote that is an non-negotiable in 2015 agnuss met with the

developer on the sis issue before you the developer refused to bulge it was after on the ground news filed for the design review in relationship that the gentleman suggested a meeting but the agenda he proposed only very ambiguously was talk about the health address size we respond pointless unless hose prepared to negotiate the developer never respond to our request so no meeting took place that was his discussion not our we don't begrudge him the opportunity to build but no 2, 3, 4 disregard the city's george washington high school that are there to protect the exit neighbors we played by the rules and so should he thank you

>> next speaker, please. >> good evening. i'm paul i'm a license architect. >> i'm sorry, sir sfgov go to the computer. >> i'm paul an architect residential anxiety in san francisco for 48 years and resident of forest city for 35 years and served on the forest hill design board i'm speaking on my on behalf of i oppose this and to show the concerns could be addressed without impairing the projects value and provide a concrete settle with the developer that could have avoided this i've provided the developer with a design i want

to emphasize one possible solution not meant to be the answer only there which is a way of doing it i wanted to illustrate those differences so that so often the client says you can do that and we can put those together and come out with a win-win situation sierra club a tweaking deserves the square footage and all the floor plans for the current design and the height of the at all building reduce by 5 feet making it more o no higher and rome the roof deck that is useful in forest hill alu you'll not get up and a there and reducing this garage

from the to 8 and the bonus space 9 to 8 and the other floors 10 to 9 those are substantial but not that big deal we eliminated accident massive in front bays and the door around the garage and front entry that is accomplished by turning the dangers to be enclosed within the front wall those changes will reduce the construction and one experienced forest hill broker it will increase the market-rate for hours in forest hill lost how many of these houses but i want to repeat the last statement we presented this the developer and he looked it and said, yes and called back a couple weeks ago and said no i'll take my chances

with the planning commission and i want to say the power point the design dominated a win win situation the changes will - >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> next speaker, please. >> additional speakers in supported of requester seeing none, project sponsor you have 5 minutes. >> good afternoon. i'm elizabeth we own the property on ninth avenue we are a 10 year

resident of forest hill we want to design a house and made concessions i'll hear about shortly we have collected over one hundred signatures thirty live on ninth avenue and i'll handing you 18 additional letter of supports collected in the last week 12 this on malcolm heinicke do so across the street from our lot the forest hocking board of directors we're in combloins with their guidelines and others spoken in opposition to tour project give the length we've gone to design a house that fits well with the neighborhood we respectfully ask you approve our house as is and i'm going to turn it over to to my colleague to continue the presentation.

>> going under gladstone for the folks we want to thank nancy and others in support of this effort thirty live on the same street as mentioned here's the project i'd like to show you in 2, 3, 4 drawing about 35 percent of volume not the floor space but the volume of the house is it so i think virtual you see this arrow a doted line comes down hero and here and represents the hillside from the rear the 20 only two stories and from the side you see they see mostly 2 stories and from the front you see what

i think is a well articulated facade that has 4 setbacks in the plan of the facade if you could bring that back this is is house next door this is the appellants house this is the kind of house that you you were presented by the gentleman an architect in the neighborhood that wants our facade to be flat and which is our facade closer to the street that was done in the neighborhood in the 1960s we don't want it this low the builders 54 feet wide 55 actually and few look at our dependability d you'll see that the home adjacent to the hongz house is turn around the honz house and see that that house is turn around my clients house if you locate the house to the right of my clients house the

peek that is my clients house note because the top floor of this house proposed house is setback about 25 feet from the front a series of 4 articulated the top floor will not be that intimidating to passersby and the architect and neighborhood would like to replicate on our lot the appellant wants a bigger open yard i'd like to point out the appellant can build back another 17 feet into the lot frankly this is very wide and wider than allowed not allowed today it didn't meet the 5 for the setbacks and instead of coming back into the rear lot it leaves 17 feet of unbuilt says

that a future owner maybe the appellants will want to build out they should all the other families are build out we're here looking for a single-family home and this neighborhood is the only one the subdivision guidelines have a minimum not at maximum i've not seen that in any other neighborhood and many, many concessions having been made to reduce the parapet and bringing the house down this in size and making sure no side windows to see through and please note that appellant has from side windows at all its privacy concerns we're not sure about i have more to say later 2 minute rebuttal

speakers in support of dr requester i (calling names). >> not only the san francisco guidelines but the forest hill and was approved in a opinion but the forest hill board of

directors didn't obtain on september 8th i was present almost a hundred people in attendance and fully compliant and procedurally very arduous working with the dr requesters i am present at the a couple of moseying they've made outline attempts to work with the dr requesters to come up with a house they can live with almost to the point where essentially we're addressing the privacy concerns we're going to record and have the blurred glass but the dr requesters refused to consider that so finally the third reason a question of common sense if you step back and look at it what is going on you'll see the subject lot is currently vacant a vacant lot of the dresser are in the right

direction neighbors i suppose you can't blame them for trying to avoids the inconvenience of construction not a luxury we can for the record a public policy in favor the heirs and auto guideline code compliant in every way shape and form and you should approve the project as present and deny the dr. >> former commissioner hillis ms. darling. >> good evening. i'm kathy lebanon and my husband todd and i are residents of forest hill we support of plans for ninth avenue and trent has gone to great length to design a home that is an excellent addition and deny the discretionary

review authorization and approve the plans and trent and liz have a single-family home in a single-family home neighborhood no deceit it colonel applies about the code and the residential design guidelines of the association the neighborhood impact of the home is softened by their plan to build the home into the sloping lot and in addition the landscaping provide a subtle effect own the neighborhood and the vast majority of neighbors like the plan my husband and i attended the association meeting in which they've confirmed that the ninth avenue complies that the homeowners agreement folks with large homes saying the scale is two 0 large with a hoa member with a larger home the

comments should be viewed in light of the folks we respectfully request you approve the home as designed thank you for your time. >> thank you, ms. darrell mr. o'donnell. >> my name is pacific o'donnell i live in the nearby location he agree with the nearby plans that trent with they're now home thanw home the >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> again and again good evening. i'm veronica a homeowner of the forest neighborhood my my husband and i

patrick and i - we were another forest hill association meeting and appreciated the comments and building that liz and trent anymore have been the due diligence required to address the neighbors concerns and have a project that fits in nicely with the neighborhood we ask you approve the project as is a. >> any additional speakers in support of project manager seeing none, you have a two minute rebuttal. >> first, i'd like to calling your attention to exhibit 16 and in fact, given by the dr candidate that addresses those please be skeptical of the signatures they were collected on a one-on-one conversation a

charming fellow he was take advantage of the neighbors go will but none there to present the other side this is a letter from matt another neighbor that assigned it and recanted in the letter callingism naive he's a pulitzer prizewinner and i ask you to consider what the in closing the developer has not disputed this housing is twice as other houses on the block and 28 percent larger than other houses and it is 78 percent

greater than the other houses and it has four stories and nothing presents more than 3 human resources and it can't be seriously disputed those are the massive bay windows are in disregard of residential design guidelines with the out of character and style and earthal features that is violations of the guidelines and simply ask you to enforce with the rules that the rest of us play but by and contribute to the rest of the neighborhood their seek to capitalize on. >> project sponsor a two minute rebuttal. >> brick gladstone just to be

clear the appellant says there should be an averaging of the rear yard and the building to the right of my clients building under the planning code anchorage the rear yard is enabling a pertaining to go further and not further towards the street than the code allows she's using it in a inverse way with section 334 of the code to reduce the size of riders rear yard i wanted to point out that the articulation of font was done with the project sponsor in mind to preserve with the side decks in view of the north is certainly is in tone with the facades of the neighborhood one of the most important thing is process my clients came here and

took the risk or bowing swog empty lots and it is a neighborhood they have to go with complying that the guidelines but comply that the forest hill guidelines their rigorously energy the guidelines and rely on the code and guidelines the process means anything with 13 moseying the neighbors something you can rely on and going through the extra procedures let's respect the process and the association let's respect the guidelines their indicated they've comply the minority said no good enough let's call that a democracy they voted the oh, my god association not to take away the discretion

you have it thank you very much. >> that excludes this portion of the hearing. >> mr. washington in that neighborhood at 25 percent rear yard is what we need more r506 scoping; is that correct. >> that's correct. >> 25 percent. >> are we providing the proper. >> yes. we are. >> my understanding that project is code compliant and that's where the difficulty it nothing unusual about the dr requesters talking about an oversized building, however, it is almost every neighborhood every thursday for the last year for the last two years the same questions arises what tools do we find to make the scale of older buildings anymore

comparable with new ones one tool called privacy one tool this commissions has used again and again and from my opinion i can't comment on the architecture that is the pretty standard there's one thing about this project i have problems the additional roof deck in an area there is otherwise no roof deck particularly this roof deck will create privacy issues no doubt being that for me on the other hand, i'm concerned mr. washington talking to you how on the the department look at the stairs on the east side and they come up and half have an ability to look back at the building the stairs on the east side of the property line almost on property line - you

see the ones i'm about. >> the stairs leading up to the rear yard. >> no specific policy about rear assess on the side you know assessing the rear yard through the stairwell but a series of bays that is projecting into the area is there a specific question. >> as you community-based down from the garden up an ability for looking at the rear of the joining building in other words, you can look at the neighboring resident on 2177

it is considerable we're talking about an area - the two homes are - it is feasible you can a lot into our neighbors yard an increased distance and a side yard and the feasible possibly has windows that be facing each other but may have a scenario you may have a 10 for the separation and landscaping plan between them that provides a certain amount of privacy that is some of the distinction but,

yeah it could poeshlt also result in you know your privacy impacted because the person has assess to that ear otherwise very wouldn't that requires a big windows or something to the effect you'll create the privacy. >> there could be connecticut essential ohio it is code compliant to take to love additional changes because it is criticism fortunately i basically can't support that otherwise i would be interested to see what other commissioners

have to say in responses to what the dr requesters are pointing out. >> i'll take questions next to sxhoers point we see larger homes every thursday and in fact, 50 percent by discretionary review and privacy is one i agree with commissioner moore's issue with the roof deck that brought this feature into the neighborhood living in a neighborhood this has a lot of heels but and the

bay that jets out trying to understand at night will that be a light house with a light glaring over the neighborhood. >> advertised an interesting concept how does that work at night someone turned on a light will the light be obtain all the time so many times a beacon. >> there is the possibility and the intent to use you know the window you know blinds. >> uh-huh. >> era to mitigate that that's one thing

but the bay was the design feature encloses the main stair that is the central feature the house. >> one of the opponents says there are more cost effective was to achieve others same programming and pointing out the stairs your consideration in making those changes mr. glad stoop. >> the architect will talk about how, how it effects the inside the deck of that bay window with the stairs was decreased by back to the facade to give the neighbors a view it is lowered a little bit for design purposes at the request of planning department. >> on the outside but i'll let architect talk about the inside.

>> would you talk into the microphone hold the microphone down if you need to. >> that's the plan that shows the arrangement of the rooms that how it w the main stairway so at the bottom of the drawing the main stairway how the rooms organized around the core of the building including the master bedrooms and two bedrooms on the left and inside and the stairway that led leads to the roof deck it on 200 and 75 square feet it is small a small roof deck with the sun comes into the stairway that specifically addresses one of the concerns of the neighborhood was one of the

concessions to symsink the stairway into the building you know this shows the stair if the inside organs that central bay that becomes the central element of building. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner antonini. >> name favor the project with perhaps some modifications the dressers didn't provide me with any impacts spent a lot of time talking about square footage in forest or st. francis shouldn't be an issue we have huge homes from the 20s that are larger than this i'm surprised did issue was brought up this neighborhood encourages larger homes by having anytime square

footage so the only other books is you may give privacy in rear yard as pointed out early the dr requesters home was built wide across the lot and shallow and 34 feet of rear yard that is much more than anyone else has on the other properties that property as designed for this neighborhood to the adjacent sites 23 feet of vashgd rear yard they're the exception they're more appropriate for the neighborhood or seems to be with most of hours have in the neighborhood their compliant and the other thing i noticed a noise 5 feet set back on both sides to the adjacent property lines in a couple of places they

pop out only 3 feet at least but let me had had math minimum size i know i'm in lakeside village 3 feet between our homes and the other side has 3 feet their adequate separation so i think that separation that are allowed for on the sites seems to be adequate and i don't know about the deck i kind of have questions about that seems most of commissioners seem to question whether you need a deck on the top of this house i'll agree with them this is a prospecting or pretty big

house it is a shady area and you never know that will be the only other thing i'll say the top of house some houses are flat roofs 90 degrees like the dr requesters but many have a small kitchen that you know will not take away from the size of the house but make it blend in better than b relevant the rest is designed and i don't see much else this a dr they have to be exceptional or extraordinary and not too many things that fit that description. >> commissioner moore. >> i'd like to make a motion to take dr and the figure out if floor roof deck off owe approve as designed.

>> commissioner hillis. >> no. >> very good there is a motion that has been seconded to take dr and remove the roof deck on the fourth floor commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu and commissioner vice president richards so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 4 to zero. >> that places us on it5 >> that places us on item 20. >> also a discretionary review. >> subject property again located ann at ferry street economists of a horizon single-family units the height of the emotion at the front elevation will increase by two feet from over 6 feet to 6 feet

6 inches will rim or remain as a single story at the front street elevation it is 40 feet and ailed overall 5 and a half feet 50 and a half feet the residence after the addition will have a rear setback of 41 feet plus at the 45 setback line for this rh2 district the existing floor plan and the floor plan will have two floors this parcel has an overall depth of 92 fight the residential design team and the dr found no exceptional or extraordinary related to the project or is dr requesters concerns the proposed two-story rear addition not ad fact the open space more create a privacy impact on

the adjacent project the project was xhfbltd with the residential design team what the primary living space on the strait level and two of the 3 bedrooms on the lower level and no existing more proposed off-street parking that concludes my presentation. that's correct. >> thank you dr requester. >> the property owner next door. >> pull the micro towards you. >> at the 133 as you can see from some of the photographs the house is built extended beyond the end of my property by this

other house i'm in agreeing tunnel and even with decks or the light project i'm still in a carbon tunnel the light up from the bottom unit will receive almost no light other than slout direct light the upper unit will have an more light but blocked by both sides. >> i don't why they can make

improvements to their home and i thank you. >> thank you any speakers in support of dr requester. >> okay. then project sponsor. >> he good afternoon. i'm susan watching one of the owners on the street my husband and i will be long term residents in glen park but right now our house is two small and raise our teenage daughter both bedrooms on the street and we're worried about the our safety a bullet went into a house it could have gone into her bedroom the 3 fuss are sharing a single small

bathroom and in addition the living room is not big enough for the 4 fuss to watch a movie it needs enormous repairs and part of foundation is brick and needs to be upgraded and the walls and floors need significant work we want to make an investment in the house and the neighborhood we love but like to make it a liveable space for our family good evening jody from reuben, junius & rose on behalf of the the thought homeowners susan watching i appreciate the staffs recommendation the project is - to allow them to remain in neither home a beautiful

officially a 9 housing unit 39 square feet home with two small bedrooms and two small to accommodate their family including their daughter and this that protects the cute storefront and it is the additionally direction of the planning department

>> and again it what of the dr issues requestedit would create a tunnel for the property with her to only two small windows with the addition would be and in those are 4'8" and 6 inches

away from the proposed additions there's a fair amount of space between the two houses. in addition there spaces away from which creates additional space between houses. so there's really minimal to no impact on the light or air privacy to those [inaudible]. the owner sought to minimize the minimal impact even more by replacing living space at the southwest corner of the addition with the terrorists and so that's not enclosed living space.just to give you an idea of the scale, the street front and the small-scale of the street front and then this is the reader. you see it's completely compatible with the reader and as you heard before with the midblock open-space. thank you. >> thank you. any speakers in support of the project sponsor?

public comment seeing none, dr requester, the of two-minute rebuttal. >> ma'am, your 2 min. of you would like to say anything else? >> i already stated my house still will be blocked on both sides. their house is-did not get smaller since the time they purchased it. i don't know what else to really say about it except it is it does impact my lot and my tenants, especially the downstairs which will be getting is totally talked on those sides. we do get direct light from the back but as i said the property on my right side is gone about 20 feet

beyond my house. they will be going out about 15 feet beyond the end of my house. that's a big impact as far as light is concerned. >> thank you. project sponsor, you have two-minute rebuttal. >> thank you. >> thank you. is responding to the issue of light as i said we could add a take away some of the living space on the corner in order to minimize the light and air impact. in addition, in terms of shadowing, the lower window is actually most shadowed by her own there's a tree and she has a port which causes primarily shadow in her property. there's a small opera window and because of the because the house or a fair amount of part, on the longest shadow of the date of the year all shadows gone from that window by noon. so, the shadow impacts are quite minimal on her property. thank you. >> thank you. this portion of

the hearing is close. commissioner antonini >> i know and see anything unusual or extraordinary things well-done addition i think it maintains the store nature of the house and the face the street one even carries that out with the fixed roof on the addition, which actually lets more light and air to the adjacent neighbors than the flat roof would get so i think that is well-done. they only go back another 10'6" and add about 2 feet in height. so come i think those are all in the significant separations between between the homes. so, i don't really see anything significant with this. i would move to not take dr and approve the project >> second >> commissioner mar

>> the project is a code compliant project. it is not asked for variances. it does not intrude into the choir [inaudible] on the side that's [inaudible] it does all the things the sensitivity design project does and it's actually well illustrated for us to understand the three-dimensional depiction of the project with this tiny little vignette. it's a well resented project and unfortunately, there's nothing really which is wrong about this project. so, again, i'm in support of it. >> commissioner there's a motion and second to not take dr and approve the project. [inaudible]. >>[roll call vote]. >> so moved pressures that motion passes unanimously 5-0. >> commissioners that lisa and the general public, to which i've no speak cards

>> any general public comment? seeing none, the meeting is adjourned in honor of the carla johnson and orlando basco. >>[gavel] >> >>[adjournment]

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so, i am-michael welcome you to the new sf moma. what a morning it is. we ordered up some sunshine and i'm sure it's on its way. so, stay one. i want to offer first of all, a special shout out to some of our performers this morning who been keeping us warm with her good work in the san francisco high school jazz all-stars. speak up in >> the san francisco youth

within ballet dancers who are looking very cold, and he chalk artist. we talked shop for their great work. thank you, all. we are so thrilled. were welcoming 5000 friends either old friends, back to the museum or new friends of the new sf moma. were going to be thrilled, just thrilled, to see the galleries filled with the rest we share our passion for contemporary art. a great day and way to still go those wonderful dollars and a 5000 people look at art this man. i'm often asked how did this extranet expansion happen. i think, basically, the new sf moma rows of two very fundamental questions. first, could we translate the passion that our community unquestionably shares for contemporary art in where the largest and most extraordinary and most innovative contemporary art using simple

world. second, we open our doors to make sf moma mean more to more people than ever before. i don't think there's any question that the staff and the board and the extraordinary community of this museum banter these questions with the most resounding yes. we could not be more pleased you joined us here this morning to welcome you to the new museum. i want to thank our opening-day sponsors, pg&e and that your bubbling up benefit district and most especially a premier sponsor they come up america and catalog. they do so much for your support. before introduce are really distinguished roster of speakers this morning, i want to offer three shout outs. i think we can at this point in modestly say we believe we have created when the finest homes for contemporary art of any username of anywhere in the world. i really-clapping >>[applause]

>> thank doctors, principal in the norwegian american guidebook that designed the new sf moma. greg, perhaps you could give us a wave? >>[applause] >> click, and his team had an extraordinary job and set a new standard for museum design anywhere in the world. i also want to welcome a norwegian man this of culture-some from oslo for the event. was here as well. >>[applause] >> thank you so much for coming. last, but god knows certainly not least, the indefatigable charlotte schultz. >>[applause] >> shyla, it was your vision

that conceived of this wonderful opening even. i'm so glad and so grateful to you for your great work. what i like to do now is very quickly introduce our speakers. we will begin woodchucks walk extra dairy board chairmanship for bob fisher board president mayor edward lee and congressman nancy pelosi. so, chuck i like to pass to you. thank you, all. >>[applause] >> it's hard to believe it's happened. really. it took a long 5.5 or so years. to put us here and you will be very excited to come in, i am sure to heal, thank you so much for the-well, you were the partner, major partner, along with bob fisher, to this whole effort. i just can't thank you enough. what has happened today is truth fully remarkable in my opinion. there'll be hundreds of the spectacular works of art there to be seen, thousands of square feet of exhibition

space, and i have to say, very proud of the fact that everyone 18 and under his welcome to the museum free. >>[applause] >> and, we are open seven days a week. i made that happen. i said why close on wednesdays. but make it open so can be here for everybody. of course, this is all about the enjoyment for the public. to learn to think in new ways and to be inspired by the art it's a museum designed for sharing good today's people who i observe are all about sharing and we want museum that would embrace that spirits. you are welcome to take as many pictures as you want and share them with your friends. i told him it is here in san francisco. this new museum san francisco's sf moma

mobile below for to return and return again. now, i like to introduce my other partner in the project from the president of museum, bob fisher. >>[applause] >> chuck, thanks. this project truly would not have happened without your vision and leadership, and i'm deeply-our whole family is deeply appreciative of what you've done for the community and for us. this is a museum bill for all of us today. and for the future of the bay area. i'm so grateful to welcome you here today, and i'm deeply moved by the outpouring of support from her entire neighborhood as we celebrate today without on the go partners. your book going

up, center for the arts, the contemporary jewish museum, moab museum of the african diaspora, the oakland museum of california, the asian arts museum in the fine arts museum of san francisco. also, our community neighbors. your book going a festival, the mexican museum, [inaudible] the children's creativity museum, the california historical society, wants to vision, the tenderloin division, and are nearby galleries. this area is truly becoming an arts center, not only in san francisco, but for the world. >>[applause] >> and thanks to all those organizations for the partnerships as we stepped into this new moment here in soma.

all these organizations champion innovation and criteria. the exchange of ideas and the development of imagination, which strengthens our bonds and creates opportunities for everyone. in the last seven or eight years, since we are working on this project, this area has completely transformed in i think accommodation of what's going on right here with the business community and with the arts and cultural community is going to have an everlasting bond and become one of the great centers in the world, right here. my parents don and doris fisher one to give back to the community where they live in raised their family and were so pleased the fisher collection will be part of sf moma for decades to come. my mom is here today with us and is so pleased with how this museum has turned out. i know my father would be equally pleased, some show without a couple things we could've done better.

>>[applause] >> it's an honor to open up this museum on behalf of all the made this project possible. including our own mayor lee locus move city by house number one to a better location and replace it with this richard sculpture by climbing out in a free gallery they'll be open to the public year round. mayor lee thank you for everything you did to make this happen. really, the city was incredibly supportive, positive, and easy to work with and i know you don't always hear that, but in this case, this has been a remarkable partnership with the city under your leadership. thanks, very much like to invite you up on stage. thanks. >>[applause] >> well, thank you bob and doris, the fisher family,

everything that you've done and are doing and being part of this incredible, incredible global center. i want to say, again, chuck, mr. schwab, i know what a love this represents to you and helen over six years of loving work to raise the funds for this, to work in concert with everyone to form the chain that would have the outcome that we are seeing today. ladies and gentlemen, and try to keep my mouth shut this all morning i've been given legal brief tour by mr. schwab and my mouth has been open all morning long. you've got to know how beautiful this place is in charlotte, you and george, we again have you another icon to welcome our councils, generals, as they come through and international visitors. i'm sure they're already wondering how can i get into my sf moma

when i make my visit here. i just want to say that this represents our cities values something i know of, certainly, have inherited the responsibilities to keep alive and keep it working for everyone. the incredible access that has been described. i know of lieut. gov., who's down with his kids today. they are looking forward to this. and i know you and i have shared a lot of discussion about being a global city and making sure that we do locally that kind of access to all of our kids, our teachers, the connection to a new architectural design curriculum, with the-school. the teachers don't just be thrilled to bring their kids in here every single weekday and

weekend. i am just thrilled with the way this museum has been such an open, welcome opportunity for everyone. and so, on behalf of the city and county of san francisco, to the entire team of people who put together and make sure not just that the physical building gets open, that the art will inspire us, that we embrace both the creativeness and innovation that it reflects, but also that it touches our historic ties of having a brand-new fire station at the same time, it's done so well. i know our chief is so proud of that station because is a modern station. isn't this the way we do things here? yes. yes, something we celebrate. >>[applause] >> i know full well what's going through his mind about how this adds to the beauty and history in the creativeness this city has good it such a welcome to everyone here on

behalf of the city and county him and think everyone, deeply, for their commitment, their contributions, the money goes a long way. it's not just the physical building. everybody has figured out to allow this gift keep on giving, to accelerate all the other programs that we have. and so, in addition to all of this, tonight, not only in celebration you will see city hall in red. >>[applause] >> thank you, again for this gift have to now a great opportunity to invite up here a dear dear friend of mine, someone i keep learning from every single day, and of course she is our congresswoman. she is our democratic leader, but she is so much more than that. just a friend for everybody in our city. congresswoman democratic leader, nancy pelosi.

>>[applause] >> thank you very much mr. mayor for your kind words. thank you for your leadership to be so much a part of making all this happened. thank you mr. mayer for focusing on the children are striving to increase in the schools which is so important to the life of our city. i want to join you and acknowledging our two mayors, tenant gov. newsom and willie brown supervisor janet kim. thank you because the pleasure to join the official tammy of san francisco to be at this opening and also to see so many families of san francisco who are here for the 21 years ago when san francisco sf moma

ipo which is speaking that day after the same families to help that happen and now an ever widening circle of friends. of course, well deeply in debt to chuck schwab for his incredible leadership. his commitment to excellence in everything he does good we all blessed by your leadership, >>[applause] >> to the fisher family, what a remarkable thing. doris, it's all beautiful. it's a beautiful good i agree with bob, john would've had some other little thing going. but you to all the fisher family, thank you so much. to neil-are we blessed to have him? isn't he just wonderful? >>[applause] >> i saw the opera house and ballet in oslo how beautiful and now how beautiful this is good we are so honored that your cull