make the outcomes worse force the students that need it the most i talked about this in terms of i remember the resolution originally was brought to be about pyeonchang and first month or so conversations about the funding everyone who came to testify this is about and making sure that jrotc students have an opportunity to receive puc and all of a sudden that is about let's step forward open prohibition i was born at night but not last time last night you lift this port commission prohibition that leads on attack for the opportunities for students that need it the most we need more teachers in every classroom and less students in the math and science and higher

pay for educators and more count opportunities for the students to have a successful opportunities to throw our curriculum jrotc is going fine i think this is shameful to pick jrotc and put jrotc in the light that is under tissue attack additional if we choose the funding for jrotc then i don't know why we're not all upset and going up to the representatives and in the u.s. house to the u.s. senate and demanding the resources we need that we preserve to need for our jrotc program it is unfair to try to raid the district coffers and take the resources that will help us address the gaps in this district so i'll not support

this resolution in its current form . >> (clapping.) >> commissioner murase. >> i'd like to thank everybody for coming out and sharing their perspective but i also want to share information about the make up of the students who participate in jrotc 27 percent latino and 8 percent african-american, 2 percent asian pacific islanders and a program that doesn't serve just one group but serves a broad spectrum of students wench heard a lot of testimony from students about the program and we've heard from strufrl students that found tutor from instructors and find marginalized students that believe in others classes find a home and family well, that

program that serves over 8 hundred students one of the recommendations we've horde earlier from the african-american leadership initiative to hire for african-american instructors 7 out of 13 jrotc instructors are african-american i believe this program serves the would whole diversity of students and valuable program and deserves to be treated just a justin as any other program serve inflated diversity program i'd like to to ask any colleagues to support this resolution. >> commissioner wynns. >> i want to say thank everyone for coming out and waiting a long time particularly the students that waited for 3 and a half hours to testify -

four and a half but i - so i want to respectfully make a few comments one i really appreciate that the students have thoughtfully brought up the issue we brought up here deserves to be said we, of course, those of us that support this program building we should fund the program we fidget for funding in the budgeted kindly this resolution didn't - it seeks to put jrotc on the same footing for funded as every other activity of any kind and funded though the we have talked about san francisco unified school district we would based on the concerns that our colleagues have should the funding prohibition be lifted through this resolution it is

dough full that program will be funded by the current board we should make that clear the majority of colleagues don't want to do central funding i think that relying on this band that was absolutely added to pack it harder for programs and other provisions that resolution will undo they'll they're all added this is why i have to say with the greatest respect the perspective over time what is done for in program makes it clear many people in the unauthorized units or community into that inside and outside of san francisco unified school district experience this program has been under attack for years and years and years what we proposed to do this evening with

that resolution to fix some of those things to actually in my view right some of the injustice that is perpetrated against the program to thousands and thousands of students for the last 90 years no san francisco unified school district so i'm happy members of the board think we should go to washington and lobby for the funding i invite you all to join me none of you were in washington go except medical and the superintendent and not at the deliberate assembly the lobby agenda so i think we should seriously discuss our responsibility as funding advocates for this program and for all the funding

needs that the school district has and all the speakers on both sides referred to know that we have a shame fully underfunded school system if so one the most fundamental of the responsibilities of the elected board members to be advocates that do the work of advocating for funding for public schools so i the president to last say is this resolution is filed with resolution to previous resolutions that were passed in previous it is evidence how the attacks on this program have been piled on and piled on and piled on for years and years and years and i have the greatest are not for or respect for the

instructors that worked and achieved with their students some of the successes that we are referred to here even though their for many years didn't have and still in some schools two schools doesn't have the requisite of teachers and have to struggle and deserve which i know i've said before tremendous respect and credits for this hard work to all of the them to get their degrees and this resolution will still require them to those that come in the future to say a bachelors degree the program didn't require that i know the dedication of the advocates the friends, the supporters but especially instructors and the students of this program deserve our support in any way we can give it i urge

we pass this and resolve many of the issues that made it more difficult for this program it survive thank you. >> (clapping.) >> commissioner norton. >> thank you so i want to say here we go again seems like just 8 years ago we were just here i've always been a supporter of this program i continue to support it i've paid political cost for that and you know, i support in large part this resolution i gave is a positive recommendations at the curriculum committee the program does do well imply many students and the testimony we hear proves that i never supports the restricts that on encompassed before and after prop b and the

fact that the program is thriving as everyone said in the district with instructors like (calling names) who have managed to earn the jrotc credentials shows this program has a deep importance to our students and glad it peefrts i think is it so disingenuous to say listing the fund not to support jrotc a zero-sum game our budget when you add money to one pot you have to take it from another there is for the unlimited money from the budget so while i think that is an important program supportive in the district i can't say i think it is the highest impact

strategy we have to address the achievement we've dedicated we should continue to support this program i'm not sure that we should take on the funding at this point in time because and i think that while the resolution didn't guarantee we'll be fighting over which program gets what money i'm certain we're to pass it we'll be arguing about that one year from now so i just want to say i don't think that is helpful commissioners to point fingers about who cares more about fidgeting for funding i think that elvis or every single one of that board and staff has articulated the funding champions we face and until our state and federal government gets their act together and fund

the schools that our students deserve and president in in district you know we're all i'm going in support of resolution if there is consensus on the board we need to amend it to take out the fund provision i will be supportive of that provision that is not a decision i came to lightly i have been a strong supporter of this resolution but i think that is the ironics 83 another this up to this point in time. >> commissioner stephenson's i want to say i've historically both defended and supported this program we've seen through a lot of over the years not a lot of follow through with some of the

things we've put ourselves out for the original resolution started off as clarifying the confusing policy it felt like it was meant to reverse the pole in place over the last 8 years and it really felt like the policy started from a place of steaassemblies it felt sneaky that was unfortunate because - the impact comes to three

hundred and plus thousand dollars that tooth the jrotc outlined which is determined by the number of positions that will need to be adam what central office covers and a varieties i have things the other thing i wanted to just share i think kind of cam together was a little bit frustrating was this that whole ideas of same not the same we should be treated equal this particular program is not the same so this - instructors

required to say a successful jrotc a minimal of one instructor and per school must be hired in all cases failure maybe termination of the program not the same it also not the same didn't require a bachelor's degree or a proper credential you can get one we had two one of whom is retiring but the

military provided a designated subjected special credential they don't go through the same credential program our teachers do it is rigorous that is in addition to the batch letters our resolve they must have a credential that permits the instruction they can get the special credential the military that providing i have a problem i don't think that that jrotc is pe and in fact, many of the young people come up to share and my sister was - this is a leadership program that teaches

our young people amazing skills around leadership and coordination and collaboration but not a pe program and you're basically saying that the 4 hundred minutes that are riders every 10 days can, accomplished this way so again not the same no i don't think we're saying that joshing is not worthy it's supported many young people you've thrilled in that program you know it is still around we've kept it and supported that but i feel the same thing this a specially special program with conformations and we're trying to build an a through g very clear perimeters around what our kids note need to be successful

outside this jrotc falls undertook the three but in the the requirements of the other classes taught by a credentialed teacher so beyond the tapping into the additional resources we may have or some of the existing resources we have you know including our pe you know we have had so many deep conversations and many, many hours over the last 8 years and in one swoop all undown with that resolution i don't feel comfortable for all the reasons i've state thank you. >> (clapping.) >> commissioner fewer. >> thank you president haney so i would like to emphasize that jrotc is not under attack and i know that is uncomfortable

i have been under attack calling me at my home threatening me to support jrotc i know how it feels to be in attack it didn't feel good this program is not under attack and want to say that all the resolution that came into play so many of my colleagues are on the board voted yes and with restricts and some say not i did not vote a no voter i want to put that on the record and say that to say that physical it's is the same as physical ed is not true a purpose for physical ed an idea that is not taught in a

curriculum around that we don't talk about quality we don't talk about empathy and understanding there is a huge inequality in our public school system and some children succeed and some don't and quality means that some students need more to achieve and we're in severely funding every dollar is precious it's not true you're not getting special funding 60 percent of the funding comes from central office we're saying we're unwillingly to staff two teachers for any program when we don't have two math teachers and not science teachers and the a there g which the jrotc is not jrotc is an elective but not set for eligibility for college entrance and math and science

and history and those types of classes are it is imperative our students pass those classes another thing i speak i can speak freely jrotc students have not looked at any campaign literature i feel they - even two weeks ago and i don't think that our students should be using this it is unethical and not right if you vote for a program or fund a program it is because you believe in this program and not

- so i think i can speak freely we've and the district come to an understanding of the budget it is important for a lot of the youth and the youth enjoy it - in the program is as fabulous then it will stand on its own and provisions there will be private if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer theming i asked at the last meeting for an update and have nodded received that so any

private if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer themably and did that accounted our the deficit for extra funding who would have that answer i requested it to be heard for this meeting i think from 2012 to relationship i milked private if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer theming most schools private with the $200,000 with the jrotc with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 i imagine robust if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer theming can we please have an account how much if you

have any questions, we'll be happy to answer theming is going on with this program and quite frankly - when we passed a wellness with physical ed it is

super critical to say that pe is not important it is extremely important and it is extremely important so i think you've heard if from many of my colleagues to say come up and say and budget committee rate pe classes i don't think that is right i don't think that is fair so that physical ed instruction and credentials folks in the field and served the students to teach physical ed it is wrong to budget committee rate our pe classes and pe teachers that is disrespectful and we've got on overriding quality in this system and embraced it upped our graduation and so that means we need resources for the students to meet the threshold that's a thaerld they'll need to meet for

the 21st century - not to say you'll not get funding this is what the we've agreed as a district but to say we must fund it through the central funds if we in fact, i don't even know how in good conscious after hearing week after week after week ever teachers not - about our african-american achievement we had sobering data about a month

and a half go with the graduation rate of english learners i don't understand that so in closing we want to say thank you for coming out and sharing our experiences i think that you know how i feel about that and i think i've been transparent from the beginning. >> thank you all right. so i want to thank everybody that came out and especially for the students for your patience and commitment i'll say every time for waiting so late and speaking for everyone that showed up to hear on this issue i was not on the board when the prior conversation about jrotc took place that was the first time that i've been on the board we've considered an issue on jrotc i think for many of the

reasons you've heard it is a program that is tyler and done fine not under attack i think you've heard from the board there are perspectives and for me inch learned a lot about the program and met with the students and hear from the instructors and listening to and respect all the views from any fellow commissioners, i think come from a very glad good plays for wanting to the window the best for students one of the things will be addressed by this under the current structure of jrotc operates most of the students if not all students are given pe credit in fact, they get an elective credit and pe credit there independent studies that be happening currently this is i spoke about this at the last board meeting i'm

uncomfortable if we have a commitment to fell activity showcase teacher in our schools and suhr under the curriculum department that is happening and oversight so i'll drawn to the piece of this and support this part of resolution that - in fact, the last time the hearing and all the e-mails i've received for the most part from students that's the piece they're concerned and month interest and felt addressing the needs i'm glad we'll he'd that and for the curriculum we have to take that jeer we're 30 years if it it can moot the requirement and educational requirement re have a report back to the curriculum building department to the or department to the committee and the board continues if the resolution passed to be part of this

conversation i thought about this piece of funding and the background around it why it was put in place and the things of the xhoirgz for the reasons you've heard from vice president walton and commissioner fewer and commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell and commissioner norton as well i will not support the lifting of the prohibition obtain the funds i think outside the box is a program that is different it is a federal program that has specific requirements that is not similar to commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell said other programs it is a program that has the support of the sites asia they're choosing to fund it and the the central office the idea there was some sort of clear difference between this all district money we are vvjt a ton of money into this program and program that is as you heard

not under attack and has very divided opinion on the board this idea of an conversation on a inaugural basis is to the one good for the students or board and as president of the board i have a responsibility to also consider that ooifrm i'll not support that i'll make a motion to remove the piece around the restriction of the lifting of the restriction of central funding that the very last sentence of resolution i'd like to make that motion with respect to the others >> i'll second the motion. >> i clarify it is just we don't want to not the whole last sentence self-defense one sentence you want to take out the period after requirement

ohio any other mention. >> that's the only mention. >> okay. >> that's okay. i'll second that motion. >> many mr. stevens if you'll. >> good evening so i anticipate being able to start that has the school year resumes

staff is not on vacation but begin in august and back to four to 8 weeks. >> i'm sorry, i was asking the part of resolution is that the policy will authorize the provisions of pe credits in the following criteria have been satisfied when we will know if those pieces are satisfied. >> that's the work i was satisfied with assuming the policy passes this evening we'll begin the work with staff back from vacationed i'll anticipate at least probably in august i'll take about 4 to 8 weeks and have information back to the board. >> commissioner vice president walton and commissioner fewer. >> i actually came here with a

possible the president to support the other parts of resolution if we took out the resolution but a lot of comments from the audience in terms of the assumption that the program is singular and actually listening to some of the thoughtful flel fulfill and highly intelligent xhmentz from my colleagues i'm personally not be supporting in amendment there are so many differences with this program it is inequitable very inequitable to think we should put two teaches in a classroom with a nice pool of thriving students and the possibility of one are both of them not credentials or disrespect to our educators and

disrespect to all the volleyball issues within our schools and within the city and like president haney pouted our jrotc students real estate get an opportunity to receive jrotc this was village about being deceptive that's unfortunate i can't port this amendment. >> thank you president haney so i also can't port this amendment 4 hundred minutes of physical ed every 10 days 40 minutes everyday it is 55 minutes long we've been sued over not giving and opens us up

for another lawsuit it can't be done and 45 minutes long to do 50 minutes physical ed and - then also i think that pe is and jrotc is jrotc i don't know why we will make an wanted to be treated like every other class and science didn't give math copyrights and history didn't give science credits two separate things and also, if you were to do the amendment i think that the second to the last the next order of business the board has any previous resolution and the

rek with conflict with the jrotc both policy or this resolution you would if you really just want to sever the finance part of it you'll have to reword that actually to say the board - not including the funding otherwise your republicans sending everything i'll not be supporting this this is a mechanism for pe credit and this board fought hard again, i didn't vote for that that was doesn't consensus and what is going on now it seems a mechanism for us you to get students to get pe credits in independent study and jrotc it was hard figure out on above grade and a lot thought went

into that i'm not going to support this and also don't on the jrotc course can deliver it's curriculum plus 4 hundred minutes every 10 days of specific education that requires the course course as part of overall course must moot the criteria the dynamic the mechanisms of body movement aquatics gymnasts and tmj rhythms advance and - okay. so but didn't no idea to include outline areas of study i just can't see delivering a stat

mandated curriculum we're authorized by louie want to warn this board we have been sued for not having adequate pe we'll open ourselves up for a lawsuit and already been sued i think that is important judgment and puts the district in jeopardy thank you. >> commissioner murase. >> i want to talk about the two instructors in high schools we have 19th street and 58 jrotc students and one instructor we'll not let that happen in any circumstances it is wrong and address the issue that jrotc instructors are not credentialed there are and on the kreshldz

credentials allows the instructors to teach jrotc the instructors are veterans that put their lives on the line they have served our country for years and they you know retired they don't have to do this work is a lot of work they do it for the kids so jrotc instructors are credentialed to teach in our classrooms. >> commissioner wynns. >> i wanted to respond to a couple of things that were said i just to be clear the part of resolution that says rescinds everything that is inconsistent with the resolution if we amend that it will be out of there no, i think consistent and second i want to say that that one of the reasons we did this we did this now, was that there was so much

lack of clarity about the authority of unified school districts are inconsistent about the laws around and the continued position of the commission on this faster credentials we did a lot of advocacy and finally after years the commission clarified that which is so there's no issue about our - the our know ourselves up to possible legal action; is that correct we have the authority to do this and that's been clarified now by the state. >> we do have the authority to provide credits as the resolution provided the conditions are met. >> okay. he just wanted to

respond to a couple of those things this is a complex issue and things are difficult for me to understand as well commissioner mendoza-mcdonnell. >> i wanted to say my father was a 28 year veteran in the military i have the utmost respect for those two to o who served the country and i take offense tohat commission not using proper policy for our