>> him >>[gavel] >> good morning everybody and welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors budget and finance committee for friday, june 17, 2016. my name is mark farrell all be cheering this meeting and all i'm joined by katie tang and supervisor norman yee. will be joined by jane kim and scott weiner. i want to thank our clerk of the committee as well as smg tv for covering the meeting today and we have any announcements >> yes mr. chairman please sounds all cell phones and electronic devices. items acted

upon today will appear on the june 28 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you. colleagues, as of yesterday, we might hear some items out of order. given the fact we want to department budgets to be heard with their associated ordinance or laws. were going to recess close to 11 am for the private flag raising ceremony and then convene at 1230 after lunch. between were going to be taking public comment on legislative items however the overall budget, is going to be heard on monday this upcoming monday, june 20 by budget hearings on wednesday as well. we do hope to complete the budget process to hear the balance budget at the board of supervisors on july 12. again, as with the yesterday is no intention to make any changes to the departments that do not budget analyst reports. today yesterday that was a more extensive list of six departments. today, it's just the children and there was commission. but we will mention

that at the time jerry so, mdm. clerk would you call item number one >> item number one >>[reading code] >> thanks. colleagues, this is a we held it yes i get with nothing to report auditory so will open this up to public comment real quick now ask [inaudible] to the call of the chair. any public comment on item 1? seeing none, public comment is closed. >>[gavel] >> i make a motion to continue the hearing to the call the sheriff >> moved and seconded. we can take that can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> please call item of two and three together >> item number two and three >>[reading code]

>> thank you mdm. clerk. these are core budget items for today. so first up, again with the report we have children and there was commission again is our intention not to take any action. welcome to come up and say a few words if you would like but again, unless you give us other reasons to do so you're all clear. >> just want to say thank you. i know you have a busy day could >> thanks for all your hard work. >> all right so with that we have a number of departments in agreement the on to take first-year. so, first we will do treasurer tax collector, public defender, district attorney and occ and will call them up in that order and i will take our police department] jet.. our treasurer

and tax collector mr. cisneros. >> good morning supervisors was a cisneros hose eight san francisco treasure good i'm pleased to report when an agreement one express gratitude towards the budget analyst for the board of supervisors of the mayor's budget office. as you know, our office works will hard 2 billion bring in billions of dollars for the city and were excited to be real to continue to work for years to come >> great. i understand you're in agreement with a budget analyst >> that is correct >> mr. rose can you give our report please >> yes. on page 26 of our report, are recommended reductions total 155.1617-

ongoing these reductions would still allow an increase of $2,964,000 .347 or 7.6% and the department 16-17 budget it also meant amending $500,000 in unexpended general fund monies which otherwise would be carried four. in 16-17 which allow the return of that 500,000 to the general fund so together these recommendations equal 655.117 in general fund savings and a recommended reduction to the proposed budget total of 15806 and 17-king which are ongoing savings as i understand it the department does concur with a recommended reduction as shown on pages 27-28 of our report >> mr. rose just because were talking your 165.117 and your two 150 60 16? >> a total six and 55.117 and 16-17, yes and one 58 and 17-18. >> okay. colleagues, any questions or comments for mr. cisneros or the budget analyst on the treasure island tax report? if not can i have a motion to accept a budget it was recommendations binding public comment on monday? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> up next we have a public defender. >> good morning. it pains me very much to >>[laughing]

inform you that we are in agreement with mr. rose and ms. campbell and everyone else. i will miss my customary debate with mr. rose, but we've actually reached an agreement could >> congratulations. picking records in many ways this. mr. rose can we go to a report the public defender?'s bid >> i just have one question was the public defender smiling? >>[laughing] as i understand it, on page nine of our report are recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 152.77 and 16-17 or ongoing savings which still allow an increase of $1 million 4.9% in 16-17 budget recommended reduction and 17-18 total one on 162.453 ongoing savings and reductions still allow an increase of 386.154 or

1.1% in the department's budget and a very happy to report as i understand it, the public defender concurs with the recommendations of the budget analyst >> thank you. any questions or comments for the public budget and was a public defender? if not deny a motion to accept the motions? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> thank you. i dist. atty. is up next. >> morning members of the committee. we are in agreement so we want to thank very briefly members of the budget analyst office, jennifer nolan,

then guarantor and-and in the mayor's analyst budget analyst jason cunningham and melissa would water and if you have a questions we are good to go. >> thank you mr. dist. atty. any questions for mr. gascoigne? mr. rose could we get a report on the district attorney's office, please? >> mr. chairman and members of the committee, on page 35 of our report a recommended reductions to the proposed budget total to 59.938 and 16-17 ongoing savings still allow an increase of $4 million 9.2% in the department and 16-17 budget. we also recommend closing upright or your unexpended encumbrances of 2004 $95 for total general fund savings of two and $18,000 $.43 and in 17-18 we do not recommend any reductions to the proposed budget and a scientist at that apartment concurs with a recommended reductions shown on pages 36-39 of our report. >> thank you mr. rose. colleagues, any questions for budget analyst are dist. atty. budget? mme. mdm. clerk please call item number five. >> item number five,

>>[reading code] >> thank you. this is connected with your budget. you have to comment separately unless you want to >> we don't need to comments. we are good >> any questions about item number five? will open up to public comments on item number five. anyone wish to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. >>[gavel] >> to the motion to ford item number five to the full board of supervisors? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> a motion to accept our budget and was recommendations on the dist. atty.'s attorneys budget. moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> thank you. moving right along, ms. hicks offices of

citizens complaints. >> good morning supervisors farrell and members of the command joyce hicks opposite of citizen complaints good i like to think the budget analyst office for working with the office of them citizen complaints mr. hardy rose. also, the mayor's budget staff without jason cunningham and the members of the board of supervisors did we are in concurrence. >> okay, thanks. mr. roseburg 07 occ >> that is correct. no recommended reductions. >> okay get think you for being here. colleagues, any questions or comments for occ? thank you for doing all way you do. >> thank you very much >> we have a few that are actually in attendance we want to knock out a quick but also in agreement. a superior court is here. >> good morning, supervisor

mike york could all make this very brief. we are in full agreement with the budget and legislative analyst so happy to take any questions you get >> okay. thank you. good to see you back. colleagues, any questions? mr. rose can we go to report on our secure court? >> yes on page 11 our recommend a reduction to the proposed budget total $100,000 and 16-17 their ongoing savings were also recommend closing upright your unexpended encumbrances 7000 or so that's total general fund savings of $107,000 and 17-recommended reduction is again total $100,000 which are ongoing savings and as understand the department does concur with a recommended reductions shown on page 13 of our report. >> okay thank you mr. rose. colleagues, any questions? if

none, can i entertain a motion to accept the budget analyst recommendation for the superior court pending public comment on monday? moved and seconded. we can take that can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> just a notice of adult probation is also here and would like to go forward as they are in agreement. >> good morning. karen fletcher chief adult probation officer. we certainly are in agreement with the recommendations like to thank melissa whitehouse, jason cunningham and josh will further assistance in the process. >> okay thank you very much. colleagues, any questions for adult probation department? the rose can we go to report? >> yes. on page 15 of report a recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 682.721 and 16-17. of that amount to in the 16,000 ongoing 414 721 our one-uctions was still allow in increase of four and

$70,000 876 or 1.4% in the department 1617 budget. we also remind closing upright or your unexpended encumbrances of 136.541 so that's total general fund savings and 1617 of 18 1962. we also recommend placing 876.941 budget finance committee reserved for contacted about a new client management database and detailed plan for the database has been completed and the support is submitted to the budget and finance committee. i recommend a reductions of the proposed budget total or 71. all of which are ongoing savings as understand that apartment concurs with a recommended reductions and reserves shown on pages 16-19 of our report. >> thank you. everything in agreement? >> yes >> if no other questions can i entertain a motion to accept the budget and was recommendations for adult probation department? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> with that, why thank them

for being questioned but welcome our police department up here in our new acting chief and thank you for being here with us today. >> you're welcome. good morning supervisors. >> good morning. if you have a deck anyone give us a second to load it up get sfgtv i think we have a presentation on the computer. so, sfgtv if we go to the presentation. thank you. >> a try to blow through the presentation as fast as i can. >> take your time as much as needed. >> okay the first slide is just an overview of the entire 2016-2017 budget over $577 million. it shows the general breakdown. we go deeper into it on the second slide here with

salaries. the salaries being the bulk of the budget provides benefits, professional services, capital outlay, services by other departments. the general fund increases of current budget is $3.5 million to fund the final year of this one hiring plan can 3.9 million to fund police reforms 1.9 million of that is a one-time cost in current $500,000 for the crime of the dni sexual assault kids. $135,000 for one civilian physician and professor of fleet management all other increases our annual: an inflammatory cause to support existing level services. which equates to total 5% increase in the general fund operations. this is a breakdown of the positions in the police department. from the 2015, all the way through 2017-20 team projected. this year the

increase is part of this one hiring plan initiative. this year's budget funds the final budget increase of the plan. it's an increase of civilian positions from the current year to include any was increase for positions added last year. this one positions, we have a plan to get to our full staffing of 1971 and this full duty plus an average of 300 and some status other than full duty. if you look at this graph, this are sworn hiring planted this accelerator plan to reach the 1971 full duty. the graphic, the charge going down shows had we not instituted this aggressive hiring plan staffing levels would be and today we stand at 1400 officers, 1480 officers but as as result of

the plan we are on track to reach full staffing by june of 2017. the re-civilian as asian plan. currently we go 51 of the 53 positions. we have two positions currently in the hiring process. that's to crime scene positions on scene investigation positions that were delayed pending dhr creation and union adoption of the new job a series which is 82.52 and 82.54. the is the police that that program. last year, the common reestablish that please a program with 30 previously frozen unfunded position get the fiscal year of 2015-16 budget increase the number of cadets over 75 with new position funded for three years and a public-private partnership. all positions are filled with continued interest

in the program. cadets are college students between the ages of 18-to five and live in in or attend school in san francisco extremely successful program. it's i think central piece to building trust in the community. the police reforms and 21st century policing recommendations. establishment of a new bureau professional standards and principal policing. reengineering our use of force, training, technology for transparency, which includes collecting demographic data, crime data warehouse enhancements and e-citations and body worn cameras. the reform budget overview. $3.9 million in fiscal year 16-17 budget to support please reforms of obama's birth 21st century policing. personnel $450,000. that's for new civilians that. three it analytical and one secretary for the policing bureau. evaluation, $100,000 that the one-time cost. outsourcing, the

investigation of officer involved shootings and the state department of $7000 good equipment 7000 is also one-time cost and technology for transparency, $1.1 million. that's a one-time cost. the budget at $6000 for new training course object also one will get every two years and that ongoing. that is a breakdown of new courage and implicit bias. that's up $150 per officer times 1000 officers a year or each course and that's 150-1 or $50,000 and that's also the cost of cultural competency course for $300 per officer times 1000 officers per year at a cost of three and $1000. there is also implicit bias and procedural justice, cultural competency, nebuchadnezzar total $1000 to continue intervention training for all recruits in a cadets. in other words the cit courses

taught to all incoming sfpd officers. the cit training, we begin training opposition crisis intervention training in 2011. beginning in april 2015 they added cit for all recruits as part of their basic academy training. this graphic shows the number of officers who of the cit training and the next two years every officer on the force will have the cit training as officers are hired before april 2015 also be retrained. budget also export the $13,000 one-time the judicial force options training simulators to teach the-escalation. when at the academy and is one of the range. the budget as ads 3000 two equipped patrol cars with a defibrillator center pilot last week the weapons. the fund

projects for 2016-20 something is and he citations to officer smartphones that the 600,000 are caused. that's real-time data acquisition on e citations, stops and field interviews. the crime data warehouse is 500,000 out. that's enhancements to approve the position of data entry and tracking of the rest to add citizens enter police reports and better data will be available to provide to the department of justice and to the community. the body worn cameras. that was funded in last year's budget the police commission with a collaborative process for the policy to be considered and adopted. police it and police facilities worked with the dti has an dpw to make upgrades to the district stations to support the body worn camera systems charging and video uploading requirements. first officers begin body one cameras in august. body worn cameras we fully deployed on all officers by years end. we are applying for federal grants also to support the body worn camera

program that will fund the study researcher behaviors of officers and citizens to inform and improve officers training when interacting with citizens in the field. a research at stanford is currently doing this type of study with oakland pd and they've agreed to do it for us. we want to know is dr. after a heart from stanford. with that, i will conclude this presentation. >> okay thank you very much chief. colleagues, any questions or comments before we go to our budget analyst report? supervisor avalos >> thank you, chief and thank you for your presentation and thank you for taking on a very difficult challenging job in a difficult challenging time and i really appreciate the leadership you are showing the ready and of course it's based on years of experience in the department. i just want to say thank you for taking on this difficult task. i thank you for your presentation you have a couple questions related to your presentation. the question

on body worn cameras, what does the amount of force storage that were going to be per year that were going to be paying for? >> i will leave that one for my cfo. >> good morning supervised. kathryn mcguire from the cfo of the police department. i am actually grabbing the numbers here for you right now. in the first year we anticipate getting up to about $380,000 in storage. that, because storage will have to be maintained or video will have to be maintained over as we progress as we collect more video, because we keep the video, and somebody will be stored indefinitely. so, that number will continue increased each

year. by the end of the second year we expect storage cost around $600,000. these are based on projections of what we anticipate to have to hold evidence and what we can actually let go. >> that's for the entire department per year? >> yes. >> that's great because i thought it was going to be a lot higher. he did it will continue to increase each year. >> as were storing more data. >> correct >> we have a sense 10 years out what we expect to be- >> not 10 years out. i think next year as we have some data and some understanding of exactly how much data were collecting person foremost, and then after that first 60 days, which data we need to hold onto, i think we'll be able to start to understand a little bit better how much storage we really will need and perhaps next year will have a better sense of that tenure outlook. >> yoga center level off at some point? not just accumulate every year?

>> well, there are certain homicide for example would be retained indefinitely. there are some types of video imagine we won't have to hold indefinitely. >> think. i appreciate that. the 1971. in number, i'm very pleased to see we are going to be approaching that close to the end of this year like december were close and in june of next year. i think the last time we were there was probably like 2009,-2010 and then i don't think we were ever hit. thing in the past before that. so, i know it's been a hard push and the board has approved classes to make sure that's happened. the police department has made adjustments in the classing and scheduling to make sure we could actually accelerate this current fiscal year and i think it's really significant that were getting to that number could i first i

thought i heard we were going to seven academy classes for the next fiscal year, and i was a previously wrong on that. three. is that's what's being proposed to be able to get to the. in level? >> yes >> okay, that's great. were able to have a plan that sustainable as moving photo we have enough officers and have a sense that retirements are slowing down and that we can probably 3-2 class level in successive years to be able to maintain that. in level? >> that's the goal >> that's fantastic. what i think is important as we are looking at approaching the full staffing level, there could be talked about after we had a resolution of the board that was saying that we need to add additional say 400 or 300 more officers due to population increases in the city. to me, doesn't make sense and we just base the size of her staffing

on population but i really want to make sure, as were at that 1971 level, we been trying to get to for number of years, that we can really assess how we can do deployment to be effective and make sure that number can be done. as effectively as we can and find out with the new changes and appointments or deficiencies in the form and, if we are not able to make a dent in what our goals are, then i would say we can look at increasing the size of staffing but i want that out there that i know we got to this 1971 number through many challenging years, aggressive training of new officers, and real commitment from the department to make that happen should i just want to say thank you first and foremost. chief, i did hand you a sheet. a handout that talks about the reform measures that we are trying to work through the department said that the department is working on already. i just want to highlight these to you. what i wanted to do was to see if we-i think you might be leaving for

a week after today, but you and your staff and the standards team can come with the controller's office and my office to be able to look at these reform measures to see what our-what there's agreement on in terms of what's achievable. i would make sure working with the department with our budget authority to make sure that the department is able to not just create a new policy but make sure policies are actually carried out throughout the staff through the lines down to the police on the street. so, i talked about putting a reserve a sizable reserve, on board of supervisors reserve or budget committee reserve, but something that i'm contemplating doing. i'm not a voting member on the budget committee, we can probably do that make that decision up to the board coming to the board

the full board of supervisors for a full board of those. i will make sure we can do this were having numerous conversations about whatever form measures identity achievable, what can be done, and with your understanding of what it is. so, here the main highlights we are looking at. first, is changes in use of force. number one. we are looking at moving from moving towards de-escalation techniques, time and distance, as well as the standard of minimal force versus reasonable force but i know the department police commission is going to process to approve this policy over the next couple of weeks. so, sure we'll have many conversations about this. over all them and you can say your reaction to be like. >> if you want a line item by

line item >> >> why don't i go through the whole thing because i don't want to get engaged in the discussion unless you want to respond. i just want to highlight >> i read it over already and i know what they say it's like you pulled off this right i dusted these are the things currently in process were doing already and the majority of these things were working on now. just it may help you make a decision whether not to go forward with this or not. >> that's fantastic piece of things you're working on i think there's a lot of room for us to have good conversations. i don't know the size-we talked about two and $1 million on reserve, perhaps it doesn't have to be that amount, but i think having some sense of that we can have a reserve and have conversations that come to the board work of the budget committee, to be able to talk about how we're achieving these reforms that you are totally invested in so we can release fonts. to me, that makes a lot of sense overusing a budget authority were doing it though, where agreement, an agreement about what reforms are going to be done, what are achievable. so, i propose colleagues make a reserve but if you've got a listen you talk about anything you see is-one highlight right

now that might be something that will be difficult to do them a ib welcome to hear that. >> i think there's much on this list we've not looked out and touching on that would be difficult. i make my just want to circumvent process. part of the use of form, i think is to try to legislate and take the power away from the people is wrong to it but allows stakeholders to the table to come up with a lot of ideas but we brought the aclu. i mean this was an historic undertaking. we got stakeholders in from people that have never been sitting at the table with regards to policy for the police department. the public defender scum office, the district attorney's office, and they took their rollback and inserted the blue ribbon panel. who was a member of the blue ribbon panel that was convened in san francisco the reported recently on their findings peer we also had the aclu. the bar

association of san francisco. the coalition of homelessness. we had everybody that could ultimately from the community ultimately impact these policies sitting at the table helping craft this. there is no versions that are before the police commission for a vote and to do this now i mean kind of tells him all the work was for not. i mean this allows them input that the process we had allowed them input, and now that's before the police commission to consider what the people want. we've also several police commission meetings with public comments about what they would also like to see in a particular policy. so that pieces them. as far as the police department goes, we pushed it over to the community. they push you back. in another late, after everything was done, we send it all to the department of justice that are doing the current review of the san francisco police department. they had their input. that's all that get in our rest with the police commission so to put our budget on reserve something we have absolutely no control over with this that at this

point, it does nobody any service at this point because we've lived up to what you put in this document. that you're proposing everything you asked for, we've done. >> i really appreciate that. the process you described is one that is been sorely needed. the relationship building with the community, the community input. to me as well making sure that your hearing from the community one way or another in face-to-face meeting. ideally, most difficult due to work with. would be important way to go. but come into me, it's not just that were adopting a policy. it's ensuring that the policies actually carried out down to the officers on the street. we've seen is been a lot of talk about were making reforms making changes and we've also seen that those changes aren't actually seen in the conduct of some opposite. i was eight the small minority of officers whose difficulty behavior and conduct is tearing down the faith of the community

has in that apartment. so that something that needs to be bridged. it's not about the adoption but it's really about implementation. that's why i think the reserve is $200 million of just look at the budget overall, i saw that it was to an $85 a think of for wages and fringe benefits was another large chunk of money. looking at $200 million that's probably too large of a size, but i think having a reserve that can tie the payment of performance measures to money being released make a lot of sense. i want to see if we can propose that and i'm not trying to tie your hands because i know that you're doing important work to craft these policies, but if the implementation that's pretty critical. >> unfortunately, that's where million dollars would be crippling. it would. one of the issues and you talk about the use of force of implementation

you talk about a policy that's been a fact that has something touching over two decades. inmate had an affect on some of the things were talking about now. it's now been changed. one of the things is that policy is what allows me to either reprimand someone or recommend termination. if they violate it. so, those safeguards are in place. everything you've talked about like this that we been doing and i wish we've had this dialogue sooner rather than now, but we didn't and unfortunately he we stand. i think >> we also have a lot of time to do that because we have this budget in our hands through, i believe, the fourth week of july. so, there's considerable time for conversation and i want to make sure that we do this together rather than-and then maybe there's other ways we can go about doing this. i do think at the very least, some reports that have some conditions on them up release

of funds is a good way to go. if you have other alternatives, we want to make sure that we are seeing the actual hard work that you're doing changing policy, is getting carried out throughout your staff. >> i think we can. this this document the changes we done are probably 50 times the size of this document all right. so we sit down i hopefully i can sway you to the other side of the table on this thing get you understanding this that is not only being done but the conditional things are being dumb. there's a lot of measures that apartment across this country all looking ways of changing and for the first time it's become a truly collaborative process which is why would've to reach out to two summer hard work done by some of the stakeholders in the community. i mean they party done everything there talking about comes up in every single police commission meeting. it's been told to me in private good i was at the chief of the professional standards and principles leasing bureau is a

direct liaison with the doj office oh i was in charge of pushing a lot of the stuff through the pipeline could i would definitely love to sit down with you because i think we can hash out a lot of these things but i don't think we need to put any money in reserve when the time autonomy changes as fast as we possibly can because we operate under compressed timeline with the cops doj review. they push us for that may never done in this process before. they're requesting huge volumes of information and data from us and giving assist the peak and some issues that apartment has there were trying to change as fast as we can etiquette cripples us to have to come to this body to ask for that money to make those changes when old goal is to get those changes implemented as quickly as possible. i think adding another layer of bureaucracy just damages the process and slows us down. >> thank you. i don't see it as another layer theocracy. it would be a meeting come into a budget committee or board meeting and preparing a report. when you're ready for releasing funds are you asking a letter

for the funds the reason i can get schedule. so i imagine that you be reporting to the police commission on the efforts you're making around reform as well, so it might be a little bit redundant, but i can't see it being highly bureaucratic. again, were not trying to do anything that you would be doing already. it just getting a quarterly report on that and then having funds released. the seismic $2 million, could very well be a large size, we actually have a lot of times this budget committee puts funds on reserve pending conditions met by the department. so, this is just will we be considering for the police department. >> okay. >> supervisor weiner >> thank you very much mr. chairman. chief, in the current fiscal year,, the academy graduations will have occurred by june 30? >> for this fiscal year? >> how many of academy

graduations will occur in the current fiscal year? >> actually- >> academy class graduations? >> okay. we've had seven classes in 15-16 get one of those classes was transferred class and i think deputy chief ali might know the number of graduates. >> yes good afternoon. this fiscal year-15-6 and walked for the that classes and five classes that will graduate. the next class to graduate in september and then one more in october. >> then, in the 16-17 fiscal year, how many classes will enter? >> we are anticipating a minimum of two dependent upon the budget >> i'm sorry, minimum of two? >> depending upon the budget.

>> what does that mean dependent upon the budget? >> what were looking at his graduation rates. we can look at the number classes in the aggregate that doesn't mean every pseudo-classes going to fill be successful. also we'll start with 15 get in some instances we've ended as well as 30 and recently we been was successful having class graduates at the rate of lake 43. >> i understand you start with 50 and you can have 48 graduates or 43 were 37 depending on how people do in the academy. not talking about the number of cadets. i'm talking about the number of class., the academy classes will start in the 2016-17 this year? >> i believe we have to budgeted. three, correction to three budgeted. >> okay. we are projected with occurrence budgeting to get back up to 1971 officers by

when? >> june of 2017 >> june of 2017. what happens when? >> what happens then hopefully we either maintain or we evaluate our effectiveness as a police department goal is to that 1971 and the services we provide to the city and county and a valuate whether or not that is an appropriate number or if there's a need to go beyond that number based on a number of factors >> so, that number as i understand, 1971, the magic number, was set when diane feinstein was mayor of san francisco. am i right about that? >> you are absolutely correct >> in 1980, san francisco had 650,000 people. we had 850,000 people today. work and have over 1 million people in the next few decades. when the number was set we do not have neighborhoods that we have

today. in the coming years with avenue neighborhoods like the shipyard and candlestick point and treasure island, etc. etc. etc. given the growth that we are having and anticipate, do you think 1971 is actually enough to do what we need-with the expectations of the people of san francisco are in terms of having beat cops in neighborhoods and not just in cars in terms of having actual traffic enforcement and so forth? >> i do not. just when the hunters point development the estimated increase in population is i think between 80 and 100,000 people. clearly, there's a need for additional police, fire, and other infrastructure resource. in that community suggest on face value,-- >> i'm going to be real blondes. i know we've

supervisor avalos have an ongoing dialogue on this issue but i think as a city, we are absolutely deluding ourselves if we think that 1000 971 officers is enough to have adequate policing in the city. we have a crime problem in this city. it's absolute explosion of also is a property crimes. i know you're well aware is your folks are doing with them every day. we see continuing violence like what we've seen in the mission in recent weeks. we have not nearly enough traffic enforcement and if were ever an individual we have vision zero we need to have more robust consistent traffic enforcement. this huge policing needs now that are going unmet because we do not have enough officers, and as the city grows, 1971 i'm sure was great. however it was set in 1980s, it

is no longer operative today. i know supervisor avalos likes to suggest that somehow it doesn't count but the fact is the board of supervisors did based on an analysis by the controller's office of per capita staffing in san francisco compared to pure cities looking at population growth and so forth, and using every any metric we could use we came to the conclusion that we need at least 2200 officers and the board of supervisors passed a resolution setting 2200 as our goal. so, i will say to that apartment and to the mayor's office, that the idea that we would hit 1971 and then go into some sort of maintenance mode during the number of academy classes where we just stick at 1971, that is not point to be enough. i think even my colleagues, when we passed that resolution setting 2200 as the new staffing goal, the chief

suhr was up there in that apartment and supported the resolution and i asked him, because we're colleagues we should not be increasing that staffing could i said, it is there any member of the board of supervisors doesn't ask you for more officers in his or her district and the answer was, no. it is not good enough to say, i want more officers on the streets in my district but because of these broader ideological objections, i don't want to hire more officers. because that means when you're pulling more officers into your district, but not increasing the staffing, that means they're coming from someone else's district. it becomes a push or pull about what neighborhoods gets adequately staffed. we've got a dedicated beat in the-triangle because of the crime issues there the

murders that were happening the robberies. that's great. another southerner but saying what about us? we wanted dedicated beat michigan more dedicated beats and more traffic enforcement and you cannot do that without having the staffing. so i just want to express my frankly, if the two in the mayor's office, if it's two academy classes budgeted for 17-18 to the mayor's office, to the mayor's office-yes, if the two academy classes been budgeted and 17-18 is an indication that room 200 once we hit 1971 were good to go and maintain i described us my strongest disagreement with that-most people in san francisco would say the same thing. i also want to say that i completely disagree with this idea of putting a big chunk of the departments budget on

budget reserve. so the board of supervisors becomes somehow the managing entity of that apartment. our job is to set the budget and people want to cut that budget, the members of this board can cast that vote and expand to their constituents whether cutting police services. that's a choice that everyone has to make but the idea that we would somehow become the oversight when we have a mayor, we have a police commission, we have a chief of police, i don't think most people would want the board of supervisors to become the managing entity for the police department. i think it would be incredibly disruptive. chief, what would happen-presumably you are making planning decisions on hiring and staffing based on the budget that approved for you. what happens if you come back to us on this budget reserve and the board says, no? >> we shut down operations projected by janitor lysate shutdown operations we just stopped working. by january. >> so i think this idea of a reserve is playing with fire.

it is playing with public safety of this city and we all want to see the reform move forward. we know it is moving forward. we have various ways in terms of accountability for making sure that happens with this this is not the way to do it. >> i just want to have some comments as well. from my perspective, appreciate the intent here with this reserve discussion and it is something i would absolutely not support i do not want to jeopardize the operations of our police department on an ongoing basis here in san francisco. i know you are actively working through these reforms did i know it's a challenging task that i believe our role should be to support you in that, and in terms of the staffing levels, from my perspective, i think it is insane to think that we will be able to effectively have a police force in san

francisco with staffing levels from the 1980s. i do know anybody in san francisco i would support that. in my district, residents and other districts public safety is the number one thing they talk about all the time. whether it be violent crime reports i still happens on our streets, quality-of-life crimes, or property break-ins were car break-ins, it is my inbox is flooded every single day. i completely concur with the fact that once we reach 1971, we need to have a very frank discussion about where we are going to go from there. i'm sure that will be contentious, but i want to voice my strong belief today that we need to absolutely reflect the population of san francisco today and make sure that we have a police department with

staffing levels that make sure that our residents in san francisco feel safe. i'm not so sure that exist right now and were working hard to get there through staffing levels and to reforms, but i think there's a lot of work left to do into we get to that point. supervisor avalos >> i'm not the only person with an idea logical position here on the board. it's neither logical position to believe that officers are the only thing the mechanically public safety in san francisco. public safety is not a number of things. it's not numbered based on the size of the police force. it's going to be worked with the police force and many other city departments to create the conditions of public safety. the officers often are the ones who are arresting people who commit crimes. more officers we will see probably the be more people to arrest people see more people get locked up. that's another huge impact on our budget. is that

the most effective weight we can create public safety? i don't know. i think it's important as a city we don't assume because our population is growing with to increase the size of the police department in accordance with the population growth. that doesn't make a lot of sense. the budget the controller's report did not conclude that we have to get 2200 officers altogether as a new standard. they show that per capita basis, that's about the average of other places around the country. they didn't conclude the city has to go forward and actually hire that many more officers. what i said earlier was that let's get to 1971 number and let's figure out how we can at the most effective deployment of those officers including beach officers and if we find that's not effective that we can go to that level but just because our population grows as a city, doesn't necessarily automatically mean we have to grow our police department in size to get that's a very inefficient wasteful way of looking at how we deploy officers what i'd like to do is i like to request the

controller's office to do a long-term study about the deployment and how we can actually create greater efficiencies in deployment with the 1971 number. were going to achieve by june of next year. so we can actually go into the idea of how we can go with eyes wide open to increase the size of our police apartment if we have to do if we feel that appointment is not effective enough or efficient enough. then we can increase the size but just to base it on purely population that's an etiological point of view and that's one that i believe does not look at all the other factors that involve public safety in anywhere in the world. >> so, i appreciate those comments. i will say for my perspective this is not ideological. this is about a strong belief that one of essential functions of our city government is to keep our residents safe and i want to do

whatever i can as a member of this board of supervisors whatever capacity to make sure that we normally keep our residents safe, keep them feeling safe but also make sure they know that is one of the number one priorities down at city hall. i will never ever we went from market supervisor weiner >> yes, just i want to just make very clear because my statement was missed badly characterized. i don't think i or anyone else is saying the police are the only factor in keeping communities safe. of course, there's various factors and we know that the police can't do it alone. but, please play an absolutely critical role as one of those factors keeping committee safe and we have an understaffed police department and with a growing city and please staffing isn't giving up, when we do things like a big chunk [inaudible] we

don't know the monies can i get spent on staffing, i just think that is undermining public safety and it's just not something i'm going to support. >> supervisor avalos >> thank you. i will still be looking at this idea of a reserve. we can do that the budget committee can set that and the full board can set that. i would need six votes at the full board could not sure if i can get six votes but i think it's important to have a conversation about what is achievable one of the things were working on. we gave me to understand that as well could i may have several more months here but i also want make sure you can do your job. you have a difficult task and not not trying to tie your hands in any way but i do think there are

given takes in terms of accountability that i think are and transparency that i think are important to the board can help with. to that end, i will, conversations. >> that's a good as i said before just leave you additional officers stayed on the seven table early, not just making arrested there for engaging the public. every building that trust. if you know the community on foot beads make people full safe i think the end result will be a decreased number of arrests not an increase because once you build that community trust that engage in peace again, that i think the visibility of having more officers on the foot beats will deter a lot of crimes. most of the times we've seen a crimes often because a lot of officer. that increase which these folks out of san francisco . that's my belief that we get to that. in and beyond the number those are the things we can do about it in here for a few weeks that is been the number one complaint from the supervisors from your colleagues, it lack of bodies in their particular districts. >> i am all for decrease arrests. much of that score to be based on more officers but i also do want to see foot beads in my district. i'm not sure if

getting netiquette 2200 number before we get foot beats good luck people read disappointed in san francisco if that's the case. so, i think there has to be way of how we can be efficient with our climate at the 1971 number we don't have to wait 5-10 more years to be cable to get to the 21 or number so we can have foot beats. i think that's the a lot of work in terms of how we deploy effectively to meet crime where it happens to the work of the officers on the street that can build trust with the community that can actually have a presence that can make our neighborhoods safer along with all the other services and facilities that the city provides that enable residents to feel safety on our streets. >> okay. with that, mr. rose, go to report, please? >> mr. chairman, members of

the committee, on page 59 of our report, a recommended reduction to the proposed budget total $2 million in 16-17 of that amount $1 million are ongoing. savings and 691 a one-time savings. these reductions would still allow an increase of $29 million or 5.5% in 16-17 budget. in addition, we recommend placing 1,000,004 and $10,000 on budget and

finance committee reserve. discuss associate with equipment contract to incremental reforms related to that department spending use of force policy because of that apartment has neither received recommended reforms from the united states department of justice scheduled to be released in september of 2016 get these funds should be reserved until there permits use of force policy has been finalized and approved by the police commission report has been submitted to the board of supervisors. the department has requested approval of five positions interim exceptions budget and legislative analyst recommends approval of those five positions as interim exceptions. and 17--18 i recommend proposals 1 million 698 of which all ongoing savings. these reductions still allow an increase of $12 million or 2.2% to the department 17-18 budget. such eminent members i like to make a general statement before i go into the detailed recommendations in our report. as i understand it the department disagrees with all of our recommendations as shown on pages 60-64 of our report. i

would note, this is the first time in my history with the city that the police department is budgeted over $577 million and includes over 3000 employees as disagreed with every single one of our recommendations. now, it goes without saying that our budget analysis is based on what the mayor has funded in the budget. so, that's what our analysis is on. it's on with the mayor has submitted to the board of supervisors just like we do every other budget. their comments total proposed budget for fiscal year 16-17 of $577 million we are recommending a reduction of $2 million. that is 4/10 of a percent, or less than one half of 1%. our review and analysis does not in any way impact the 1971 staffing position level. we are not

proposing any reductions in services of the mayor's budget. it's been submitted to. not one dollar. in fact, we are recommending approval of the expansion of services including three new academies, five new civilian positions to create the new professional standards bureau, julie charged with implementation the police reforms, 700,000 in additional training for officers, this new equipment and a new investigator for the office of citizen complaints. with a smaller budget last year, and almost double the reductions recommended by the budget and legislative analyst, which were accepted by the committee, the department still have surplus salary savings after paying for the unbudgeted costs related to the super bowl overtime. yet,

according to the department they cannot agree with even one dollar reduction in uniform overtime or miscellaneous attrition. despite the fact that the overtime budget has increased by $4 million from $10 million in 15-16, two $50 million 16-7. the department continues to vacancies in civilian positions, tuition savings has been reduced for both miscellaneous that is, civilian, and uniform salaries and the department and overall surplus salary savings in each of the past fiscal years. 2013-14, $4.5 million salary surplus, 2014-15 $3 million, 50-16 $2 million and supervisors, that surplus salary of two main dollars is even without $3 million extra overtime for the super bowl which was not specifically

funded in that budget. in prior years, the department has stated to the committee that there would be a reduction were no change in overtime spending if the mayor and the board of supervisors approved a hiring plan to increase the number of full deputies warning employees two 1971. in this 16-17 budget now before you, the department is not only increasing uniform overtime, but is also increasing its full duties on staff. the department is proposing $15.4 million in uniform overtime for increases as i stated a $4.6 million. uniform surplus salary savings and 15-16 is $13.3 million. supervisors, this was the reason why the department be appropriated surplus salaries with your approval to obtain additional additionalovertime inmate

inmate. basically cannot spend the money and they had the money to user for additional overtime with the board of supervisors approved. regarding the civilian position of attrition and contrast the uniform salaries, the department has reduce miscellaneous attrition from a reduced it am a bite $1 million and 16-17 and $1 million and 17-8. that apartment has 17 current vacancies as requesting five new positions. this is the billions. our recommended attrition increase for civilian salaries is based on hiring information provided by the department itself. not by us that apartment gave us the precise schedule. because

related that to the dollar. miscellaneous salary savings in 2015-16 is $500,000 and that's according to the comptroller's office. the other was that surplus of 501.907. the department reports savings of 536-three and 56.498 in the body camera for him for 2015-16. the department now reports additional costs not previously budgeted for electrical upgrades. that cost is 242 point 232. at the very least, the programmatic budget should be reduced by that difference between the 356.493 and the 242.432 for total one hour $14,000. the apartment has a history of caring for funds from year-to-year. and 16-something there's $983,000

still holding aside for unidentified furniture fixtures and equipment for the new public service building. going to the specific recommendations, on page 60,supervisors, i can respond to questions on each one of the pages. you've got our recommendations. i think they're pretty clear and again, there based upon the funding of the mayor's office. what we are emphasizing to you, were not

reducing service. we are a recommendations increase service that we are just telling you what money will be left over in this budget. we proven it to you each and every year including this year as you know, you just appropriated millions of dollars for overtime that was left over. how the police department can state that they cannot absorb one dollar of the budget that was submitted by the mayor, to me, is unbelievable. >> supervisor avalos >> thank you good i'm additional question to add to harvey's reported earlier this year i have requested that the budget legislative analyst assessed population-based staffing for the police department and i just want to get a summary of that report with the inclusion what the conclusion of the report was based on the assessment of population-based staffing. >> thank you supervisor avalos. i'm from the budget analyst office. the overall conclusion from our analysis is that

population-based analyses to determine police staffing levels is not the best practice that the past practice is workload based analysis to determine proper police staffing levels for cities, and it's our understanding that at the time the department did concur with that conclusion. >> enqueue very much. >> to her visor tang >> i was actually one of the police department staff the response to the recommended cuts for the budget analyst office regarding overtime, tuition, electrical work needed for the body camera program and more attrition. if you could just for the record state door justification for why you were not accepting of that? >> thank you supervisor. starting with overtime, first of all were happy to work the budget and legislative analyst little bit longer should we should the committee see fit. but for overtime i do want to

stress that when we made the request to increase over time it was in addition to a decrease in premium paid and holiday pay. in our budget commission. so this is a no net gain in our budgets and so this is really specific to a payroll code change that happened two fiscal years ago. when we switched when the entire city switch to a new payroll system am a coating having differently and court page got coded instead of being paid as a premium in prior years, it got coded as overtime in the budget was never adjusted to reflect that. so the $3.6 million increase in overtime is really reflected of a shift that we needed to make as a technical

adjustment, really, to our budget. >> so, to take that $1.7 million away from overtime means you're defining court page. so, that is the overtime issue. then, the other two major issues really are with respect to the body camera program. the body camera program we are projected about $114,000 in this fiscal year that we expect to need to pay for storage or next fiscal year. as you all know, we've had to negotiate our policy with both the community with both the police commission, having committee meetings and talking with the public about what the body camera policy should look like in the sfp away as well. so that process has completed. we are now able to start deploying cameras in

august and so we have not had any need for storage it. that needs arts in august. we really need those funds to carry forward into 16-17 to be able to pay for things like that. >> then, finally with respect to our miscellaneous attrition adjustment, we are-we are concerned that right now, it's minor standing be of about 37 positions vacant and miscellaneous civilian and staff and we have 38 budgeted vacancies. our budgets increases that number by about increasing our staffing level, but this increase would then increase the attrition to about 41 physicians going to old vacant and so we would not be able to will hire those positions we would be getting in our budget. >> mr. rose >> i'm sorry, one follow-up question. >> how many those vacant positions are you anticipating to be able to fill in the upcoming fiscal year? >> without the attrition adjustment? >> yes. we would be

>> we will be able to follow all of them. >> members of the committee, little surprised because this is the first time we heard the department states they would be willing to work with the budget analyst indicating that maybe they can take at least one dollar cut in their budget. we have not heard that before but that apartment is on record they just stated they would be willing to further work with a budget analyst to see if there could be some reductions. i am happy to hear that. we will submit work with that apartment because right now, they are saying they can't absorb one dollar. that's what they have told us that they disagree with every single rock mentation we've made. but on record now saying they want to work with a budget analyst and we will be happy to do that. >> that is the magic of budget committee and were here to facilitate a productive dialogue. so we hope we can all work together on a. >> okay, so anymore comments or questions? >> thank you i appreciate the budget analyst support and i could be looking at pursuing

some of those recommendations when the budget gets to the full board as well and i'll reserve that for other recommendations the press on taken by the budget committee. >> okay. so, we will see you back next wednesday. i asked that the department works with a budget analyst. i think seeing no cuts is--produces of standard results of budget committee. were saying not even a dollar. so, look forward to having a discussion. my office in this committee will commit to work with >>[gavel] >> good afternoon everybody welcome back to the regular scheduled board of supervisors budget and finance committee meeting for friday, june 17, 2016. we are coming back from our recess. we are continuing

with item number two and three. real quick if the office of probation was here earlier. i want have you come up. >> thank u supervisor farrell. the juvenile probation department is pleased to state were in agreement with a budget and legislative analyst office. we want to thank the players mayor's budget office in the budget site of analyst further assistance. we are greatly appreciative of the opportunity to discuss the priorities of the juvenile probation department and rapid to take any questions you may have this afternoon >> okay. colleagues, any questions i know? okay. this arose, we go to your report? >> yes, as are chairman and members of the committee, on page 21 of the report are recommended reductions to the budget total 370 and 16-17. of

that amount to 89 our ongoing savings. 83,000 are one-time savings. we also recommend closing out prior your unexpended encumbrances of $972 for total general fund savings of three and $74,000 for fiscal year 17-18 we do not recommend any reductions in the proposed budget designers in the department concurs with our recommended reductions on pages 22-24 of our report. >> okay thank you mr. rose. colleagues, any questions? if not deny entertain a motion to accept our budget analyst recommendation for the juvenile department. 's moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> thank you for being good up next we have oewd. >> we have more memorial arts

commission dc why you. >> thank you. office of workforce development could not happy to say were enough agreement with budget analysts aggregations and happy to take questions. >> colleagues, any questions for our department oewd? mr. rosen the we go to a report, please? >> yes. member's of the committee, on page 39 of the report recommended reductions to the proposed budget total $1 million and 1617. those are one-time savings to the general fund. these reductions would still allow an increase of $17 million or 42 4.3% in the department 16-17 but that we also been closing out encumbrances so the total general fund savings of 416-17 would be $1 million for 17-18.

are recommended reductions total $300,000 which are one-time savings. as i understand it the department does concur with our recommended reductions joe shown on pages 40-42 of our report >> okay. colleagues, any questions for budget analyst on oewd budget or staff? with that, can i entertain a motion to accept our recommendations for oewd any public comment on monday? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> thanks very much. war memorial is up next. >> good afternoon supervise. that read the director of the war memorial and performing arts center. thanks to the mayor's budget office, and the budget and legislative eight we are in agreement with the budget analyst reports. i didn't pass out a copy about this presentation gives you can look at the pictures. they are beautiful. if you have any questions let me know >> it's been a big year for

you guys could thank you for that. alex, any questions or comments? mr. rose, do we go to your report? >> yes. i'm as of the committee, on page 6 of our report the recommended reductions of the budget total $57,000 in 16-17 ongoing tenant that these reductions was to allow an increase of $1 million for 5% of the department 16-17 but. our recommended reductions to the 17-19 budget total $48,000 which are ongoing savings, would still allow an increase of $1 million or 4.7% to of the department 17-18 budget. as i understand that the budget concurs with our the department concurs with our budget on page 7 of our report we did thank you. any questions for budget analyst or war memorial? seeing none,, can i entertain a motion to except our budget and was recommendation for the war memorial but budget pending public, not muddy? moved and seconded. can we take that

without objection? >>[gavel] >> we have our arts commission your? dc dc why a. >> so good afternoon chairman farrell i'm director of the department of youth and families it is my pleasure to be here and i do want to thank the budget analyst legislative analyst's office particularly, jan and julia for working with us over the last several weeks. then, special things over to the mayors budget office, laura bush and melissa white house. these two are very hard-working dedicated and brilliant women. so, thank you.

>> are you in agreement? >> we are in agreement. i'm sorry. we are i miss that. in my desire to call out really phenomenal people i forgot that. >> no worries could well deserved. mr. rose can we go to your report, please? >> yes. on page 47 of our report recommended reductions of the budget total $214,000 in 16-17. $150,000 on ongoing savings and 64 are one-time savings. these reductions would still allow an increase of $18.8 million or 11% in the department 16-17 budget are recommend reduction to the budget total is two and $17,000 and 17-19. ongoing savings they would still allow an increase of $6.39 or 3.3% to the province 17-18 budget and the zionist and the other does concur with the recommend a

reduction and shown on page 48 of our report >> thank you. any questions for budget analyst? supervisor yee >> thank you for your work at dc why have. i'm just curious in term of the budget, i know that there's a substantial money that was put into the early education, but i would personally was a little disappointed in the amount knowing that needs which was well articulated two years ago trying to get a bump in the funding for children and their families. what is your thinking behind that? i just a little surprised how-i don't say how little, but that the requested amount that was pretty large wasn't even halfway filled. >> thank you for the question supervisor yee. if you want i can put that section. our budget naturally grows because of the passage of proposition c back

in 2014. with that growth, we are proposing over the next two years to allocate $18.4 million towards the children youth and family services. of the $18.4 million, we, after talking to our community, talking to our oversight and advisory body and talking to the mayor's office, and other advocates, we right off the bat i located a third of that growth towards early care and education. we know that it is not at the level that was advocated for, but we feel that with the $6 million that were allocating towards early care and education, we will be able to at least need some of the needs that we are hearing, which are prior guys also by the mayor. who wanted us to increase opportunities for our high-risk high needs families. >> thank you for your expiration. i hope we can work closer together to try to strengthen the funds for early

could >> yes i look forward to working with. i know supervisor yee you're a true champion fred ebbers five populations. >> colleagues, any further questions or analysts? can i entertain a motion to accept the budget and was recommendation? gibby go? >> yes >> motion accepted for dc why you pending public comment on monday. moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> our arts commission, i believe has arrived. let's take them next. >> good afternoon supervise. rebecca crawled deputy director and ceo of the arts commission. so, no presentation or

>> are you in agreement with the budget analyst >> we are. >> it up to you. we offer people the opportunity. some people have come up and just said if there agreement and were happy to answer dubai question but it's up to you can we one make sure you give people the opportunity to get things for the opportunity. were happy to answer the questions lasted >> all right, colleagues any questions for the department? mr. rose, can we go to your report, please? >> yes. i'm as of the committee, on page 2 the recommend reduction to close budget total $106,000 in 1670 and that's one-time savings. the reduction would still allow an increase of 214-1.4% in the province budget. we also recommend placing $62,000 on budget finance reserve pending cost estimates of acoustic mitigation improvements. the department has requested one 1823 senior administrator analyst position to be an

interim exception to continue strategic and analytical work. we recommend approval deposition as an interim exception. in 17-18, we have recommended a reduction of $70 million excuse me-to the proposed budget-excuse me-wwe have no recommendations for 17-19. >> thank you mr. is good colleagues, any questions for mr. rose were arts commission? seeing none,, can i entertain a motion to accept our budget analyst recommendations on our arts commission budget pending public comment? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> thank you. so, we have a

few departmentsi tell you what but when we go into a two-minute recess and i think were going quicker than we >> we are back from recess. for our budget and finance committee meeting for friday, june 17, 2016. we're in the middle of items two and three are core budget items. up next in terms of department we have our fire department has come in so you will let them so much catch the bus and come on up. >> good afternoon. fire department. happy to report we are in agreement with a budget analyst happy to answer any questions you may have >> thank you. colleagues from any questions are to fire department under budget? seeing none,, sorry supervisor yee >> i'm just curious. there was

some discussion of question was asked of the about potentially in the future were currently to bring back a battalion. >> correct >> i guess it's battalion number five or whatever is. other any thoughts on that? >> i'll defer to our chief of operations, but in general i believe the department that was funded a was and is a bout 7-8 years ago. with the growth of the city the department is in favor of restoring the battalion and a let the chief talk about. >> good afternoon supervise the deputy chief operations mark gonzales. i agree. i'd like to reimplement that i've had a focus right now is what we implemented my the fleet is definitely our first priority. as part of the budget. this is

something that we definitely our department is extended we planning workstations and the hunters point area and the canada points that area. we would need up italian sometime in the future. the near future. >> my office would be more than happy to discuss it with you. >> thank you. >> colleagues, any further questions for the fire department? this arose can we go to your part of our department, please? >> yes. members of the committee on page 56 of our report recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 5.8916-17. there one-time savings can you would still allow an increase of $17.2 million or 4.8% in the department 16-17 budget. the mayor's budget office has requested approval of 40-20 new age 3 emt paramedic firefighter positions in the 16-17 budget as interim exceptions. we do recommend approval of those 20 new positions as interim exceptions. i recommend reductions for 70-18 total 259

496 which are one-time savings, would still allow an increase of 6 million 577 of 1.8% to the apartments 17-18 bytes. as i understand that obama does concur with the recommended reductions shown on page 57 of her report. >> thank you mr. rose. colleagues from any questions are budget analyst or fire department? seeing none,, and i entertain a motion to except that budget analyst recommendations on the fire department and in public on on monday? moved and seconded.can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> we have our department of public health. i know is here. ms. garcia, please come on up. >>supervisors we are in agreement with our analysts and

so if there's any questions about the budget will be happy to answer them. >> okay. colleagues, if the department of public health. any questions, comments, specifically on the budget itself. this arose can we go to report for dph >> yes. members of the committee on page 66 of our report recommend reductions to the proposed budget total $3 million and 16-17. of that amount, 2 million dollars our ongoing savings and it $1 million one-time savings. these reductions would still allow an increase of $6.2 million were 3/10 of 1% independent 16-17 budget. the mayor's office has proposed interim exceptions to

the annual salary 438 positions in the department of public health coming including 35 new aqua jet limited term 2320 registered nurses at sfgh, two 9924, public servant eight health services positions and one 1657 accountant position. we do recommend approval of those interim exceptions. we also recommend that you carry forward reductions are the proposed budget totaling 33,000 dollars. those are ongoing savings in addition we recommend closing out prior year i spent a general fund encumbrances which would allow for the return of $847,000 to the general fund. so together, recommendations total $3 million in general fund savings and 16-17 can in 17-18, recommend reductions total $2 million all of which are ongoing savings. these reductions was still allow an increase approximately $36 million or 1.8% in the department 17-18 budget and as

i understand it, the but department does concur with our recommend reductions on shown on pages 67-74 of our report. >> thank you mr. rose. colleagues, any questions for our budget analyst on our department of public health budget? agreement. okay, colleagues can i entertain a motion to accept the budget analyst recommendations for our department of public health pending public comments on monday? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> would you like me to call item number six and nine with the public of budget >> thank you. could you do that >> item number six >>[reading code]item number seven >>[reading code] item number

eight, >>[reading code] item number nine, >>[reading code]. >> thank you very much. greg wagner is here former cfo of the department of public health >> thank you supervisors. the items before you i will discuss them briefly and then happy to answer the questions. item 6 is an update to an ordinance that this board approved a little over a year ago which gives us authority to negotiate contracts that bring in revenue to the department from

managed-care payors. have that time, we committed to come back with updates to this ordinance, so we are proposing those in the budget. it's largely administer your changes including changing some references to data sources that have changed since the ordinance was adopted. item 7 is our patient rates ordinance of the comes before you and only. this is our rates that are formal charges that we post for medical services. very few of our patients actually pay these rates. these are largely used to drive maximum reimbursement through medi-cal for behavioral health services, and also reimbursement commercial payers. commercially insured patients that end up in our healthcare system predominately at san francisco general hospital. the vast majority of our patients

including our safety net patients, will either have medi-cal, medicare, or will have to the sliding scale fee paid to them so this allows us to maximize the revenue that we can capture from the commercial payers. item 8 is also an annual item that we bring before this board. we were large number of grants that require approval each year. so, rather than doing them individually as resolutions, before the committee, we combine them into a list and request your approval once at budget hearing time so that we don't have have a large number of separate items on the calendar. then, lastly, number nine is an individual grant 1.4 million dollars from the san francisco foundation that will help offset the cost of establishing wellness centers and programs in the whole sf sites. some happy to answer any questions if you have them. i'm sorry. i declined to-i have for item number seven, i have eight

requested amendment at the request and consultation with the clerk to delete section number two. i have that copies and that is simply a reference to items that are on file with the board of clerk of the board of supervisors. they're actually on file at san francisco general hospital. so we are deleting that reference. >> okay thank you. colleagues, any questions on items six-i'm? we will take public comment on items six-i could does anyone wish to publicly comment on these items? seeing none, public comment is closed. >>[gavel] >> can i entertain a motion to accept the minutes for item number seven and then poured out 6-9. number seven is amended to the full board of somebody supervisors on july 12? moved and seconded. can we

take that without objection? >>[gavel] >> thank you to our dph staff. we have hsa so mdm. clerk would you call items 10, 11, and 15 please >> item number 10, >>[reading code]. item number 11 >>[reading code]. item number 15, >>[reading code]. >> thank you very much.

>> good afternoon. mems of the committee executive director of human resources agency i'm pleased to say with great interaction with a budget analyst that come in full agreement on the report. >> okay. thank you. colleagues, any questions for mr. rourke? i think we've all been briefed on the legislative items. any additional comments you want make on this >> no. >> okay. mr. rose can we go to report on hsa, please? >> yes, mr. chairman and members of the committee on page 76 of our report, recommended reductions to the proposed budget total $7 million in 16-17. and supervisors, i would note if you look on page 84 of our report, of that amount of the $7.2 million, 3,000,004 our general fund savings. let me just check that figure again for you. the

general fund amount. >> could you clearly articulate: >> 3 million 427.11 is the general fund amount included in that several $7.2 million. of that $7.2 million, seven and $70,000 ongoing savings and 6 million are one-time savings. we also recommend placing 423 562 a budget and finance committee reserved pending approval by the voters in proposed dignity fund on the november 2016 ballot and submission of budget egos. recommended reductions of the proposed budget total $1 million and 17-18 all the jar ongoing savings. these reductions would allow an increase of pipe five point 6,000,006 and 7% (17-18 budget. we recommend placing $6

million on budget and finance committee reserved pending approval by voters of the proposed dignity fund on the november 2016 ballot and submission of budget details to the budget and finance committee and board of supervisors. as i understand it, that department concurs with the recommended reductions, reserves, which are shown on pages 85-77 other report >> thank you. could you just clarification on your two, the general fund savings? >> yes. the general fund savings of the million is 776 .873 and that is shown on page 84 of our report. that's and 76.873 >> great. thank you. colleagues from any questions or comments? so, first look take the budget itself. can i answered in a motion to accept a budget analyst recommendations for human services budget moved and

seconded. can we take that without objection? san diego >> does anyone wish to publicly comment on these items ? seeing none, public comment is closed. >>[gavel] >> can i that i motion to send items 10, 11, and 15 to the full board of supervisors on july 12? moved and seconded. can we take that without objection?- >> i believe hfa has amendment to item 10. >> okay i did not know that will bring them back up. >> we do have a amendment superbike. the city attorney was to afford them to your opposite could mine has not seen him that something initial working on them. >> to our city attorney.

>> i believe your office is in possession of them but we can grab them and bring them down. you can vote on the amendment in 10 min. or so. >> okay. why we hold off on the legislative package right now. we'll do it in a few minutes once we get them. if you would let us know what they do come through. okay. thanks. we have four departments (we are going to take i don't believe there here is working to take i know the department of emergency management is here with go through your budget and talk about also the areas of disagreement still. >> thank you so much chairman farrell and members of the budget and finance committee. it's a pleasure to be here today. i want to start out by just thanking mr. rose and his staff, jennifer, we work very closely with the odyssey, melissa whitehouse and anthony -whose our budget analyst in our mayor's office and always been then goes into great partners we have. so, we have just a couple of slides and the

width through them. i think you all know this. first slide, department of emergency management is made up of three divisions. emergency communications which is 911, emergency services and administration. we also are the fiscal agent to the bay area-for the 12 county in the region. our total budget request for 16-17 is $93.88 million. this slide reflects the breakdown per divisions could i won't go to into everything but just in general, emergency communications is 100% general fund supported. emergency services is 33% tied to the general fund. 28% from revenues and work order recovery, and the remaining 39% from homeland security grants. administration and support division is 90% general fund and the bay area is one i've

percent grant fund. we have some major projects coming up this year. there are three critical information technology projects could i've spoken to you before about the public safety radio replacement project. $14.5 million is lighted budget for 16-7. another $7.8 million has been approved for 17-18. we thank you for your support on this very critical project. $180,000 is budgeted for 16-17 to my great des environment to microsoft active directory. $160,000 to implement a work that much-needed workforce scheduling system to replace our current manual paper process for 911 operations. we also have three approved capital projects. $2.63 million for the radio site improvement

which is tied to the public safety radio project. $750,000 over two years to add eight dispatching workstations to our existing 911 for operations four, and $500,000 in 17-18 to design and plan for expansion of the main dem facility. i always like to come to you each year in agreement with a budget analyst. unfortunately, this year we are not able to good there's a number of personnel changes that i want to highlight and this slide actually is-i will be speaking to the differences we have a budget analyst. so, to address the increase 911 call volume dem six aggressively hiring as many dispatchers as possible. working with the dhr, and with the mayor's office, we have three academy classes plan for this upcoming fiscal year. and

three for this fiscal year following that. this will help us with the attrition of our dispatchers in it also will quickly get us to a level where we are able to spawn two calls in a more timely fashion. we've really been struggling with this. it's a huge issue for us. that's why we do not agree with a budget analysts propose cut up $755,000 in for operations. dem has also requested adding one new iis engineer senior to the public safety radio replacement project. we were approved through the process and to dhr for a 1043 position to dhr felt this would be appropriate level for the radio replacement project. the budget analyst is recommending that we change that classification to attend 42 and we believe 1043 is the appropriate class. dem

also requested a new iis engineer senior position for our cat. this is very important to us. while was approved in the budget analyst reports were recommended, it was recommended to start in december or january. i think was .5 position. we had anticipated starting in october we've had conversations with the department of human resources who assures us we will be able to hire in october and so we would like to stick to our original budget request. lastly, we are also adding one new manager to the bay area team and this position primary responsibility will be developing regional in our programs. in 00 verse one atomic senators that all associate with emergency communication for overtime or budgeting we point 2 million

per 16 having something and 2.4 million 417-18. the current level of overtime expended is needed to not only address staffing shortages but also improve our call response times in fact we recently received approval for an overtime supplemental from you to reflect the current usage of $3.56 million. in comparing the calendar year to the new two-year budget come we anticipate spending less than the current year given we will have new hires from recent academies who will be fully released for training. that concludes my report. i do have my deputy director in charge of administration and finance to answer any specific questions and also rob smut whose might director the director of the medication to them happy to answer any questions. >> thank you very much. colleagues from any questions i know? mr. rose chemically go to your report? >> yes mr. chairman and members of the committee. on page 44 report recommended action to the rose budget total

826 in 16-17 of that amount, 6204 ongoing savings and $20,000 of one-time savings. these reductions was to allow an increase of 10 million 186 12.3% in the apartments six 1117 buzz. i recommend reduction to those budget totals $17,000 and 17-18 which ongoing savings. i would know, supervisors, besides the police department and the department of technology, emergency management is the only department of the 32 department which we reviewed that that disagrees with all of our recommendations. the recommendations are shown on page 45 of our report. i will go with him briefly. on the top recommendation, the first recommendation, equipment purchase, we say can i request for one of two new replacement vehicles due to the low mileage

of decommissioned vehicles and pursuant to the city policy to reduce the vehicle fleet. the 07 averaging approximately 5000 miles per year. they have a total of approximately 80,000 miles good second recommendation, we are-this is to adjust 8.77 fte, 1043 engineer senior embedded in the program budgets 2.77 1042 iis engineer. this is, we believe that latter classification is more appropriate. i would note, that apartments sent us multiple descriptions to justify this level, so we received at least 2-3 different descriptions our analysis, which raised the question in

our mind, to begin with why would we get different descriptions from the department. so, the bottom line is we believe it should be a slightly lower class position and that is our recommendation. on the next two recommendations, the-we say to reduce of .77 senior position of .5. this is strictly to reflect starting date. we are recommending total approval of these positions. these last two recommendations. it's strictly a starting date. according to the comptroller's office, the analysis of higher time, the medium had time for these engineers is five months in that apartment just testified they can hire in three months that were based on the five months. the last one, the reduce 7.69 public safety communications dispatchers to

2.25 to reflect anticipated started again, it is a starting center were recommended approval all the positions to we note that the department's ability to higher for this job class is limited to 15 ftes due to the economy class capacity. this reduction still allows the department to increment its plan for three academies and 16-17. i would also note that apartment plans to hire its 15 in october 10, 2016. 15 ftes on january 2 and 10 on april 10 of 2017. or for a total 40 new new hires in 16 having subject i recommend reduction would still allow the department to hire all three academy classes four and 1670 so that it we would approve the 40 new positions. those are our recommendation to >> that you mr. rose. any additional comments of those? i think the differences are

pretty clear. >> if you wanted excavation specifically on the last one, i would be happy to have come up and explain why we believe we cannot have that third academy class. >> sure. >> the doctrine. willie cfo for department of emergency management regarding the last recommendation, we've not received information for the budget analyst inspires a project it we provided projections on houses to budget analyst we also detailed the specific classes. we identified that the attrition amount they were focusing on was not specific to any particular class. was to increase the annual salary ordinance count so we can hire 40 new positions next year. that we also indicated to the mayor's office, working with them adjusted the salary attrition so those costs are not there. the cut that mr. rose is proposing would in fact impact our schedule for hiring classes. >> supervisor yee

>> so, let me ask a question. the budget analyst, i think he said that the date of hiring is april 10 >> correct >> are you saying that you are issued [inaudible] >> the dates are the same, supervisors >> before you hire you train them? >> they merely go into training. >> they go into training >> right >> i'm not quite understanding then if you're hiring in april, then the the 2.25 make some sense. can you explain why there's some does make sense? >> sure. the 7.69 fte value basically the way it's written here the budget analyst has

indicated he will need a .25 410 positions in april. we try to convey to the budget analyst is the 7.69 is for the entire call center and we party accounted for the overall salary projection for our three classes in the next fiscal year. so, the cuts for this particular line item reflecting to one class would be a dollar cut against the entire operation salary and i would impact her ability to hire the classes. >> okay. >> mr. rose >> 2.1, the department estate we have not provided them with our calculation. we will be glad to work with that apartment if the committee wants us to do that. to see if we can reconcile the differences. also, it should be noted earlier the province 02 about there are 28 vacant positions in that apartments could i did hear anything from the apartment about that >> okay. tell you what. i think this is one person when disagreement. when i pointed him to agreement today to let me suggest what you back next wednesday. i would ask that you work actively with the budget analyst to find agreement. if

not will make a decision next wednesday. we'll see back next wednesday and will leave it there for today. supervisor weiner >> i do just want to say, this department is chronically understaffed for variety of reasons. it has on the ground repercussions in terms of the time it takes to answer a call. there's many times when people are calling the police nonemergency number and literally, there's no one to answer the call. it is goes into an infinite loop. i think it is critically important that department of emergency management be able to stay on track and we staffing its dispatchers in particular. so, i would have the budget and

legislative analyst to be very very conscious of that as you're having these discussions. if there are efficiencies to get, great but i really don't want to do anything that will in any way jeopardize the ability of dem to answer calls both emergency and nonemergency in a very timely manner. >> we appreciate your comments supervisor, and it's absolutely our multilingual work with the department to-- >> i know you will but i also hear from escrow number is done a good job looking at the department saying that these cuts will actually jeopardize the department's ability so ensure you have a good conversation. thank you. >> okay. we'll see you next wednesday. we have three departments selected the sure visit or so and they earn agreements we will take them first. sheriff. >> hello. how are you? thank you for having me here today i just want to thank first of all the budget committee members could as well as by department staff, the mayor staff, the

budget analyst apted i think we work well together. we are in agreement. >> okay. colleagues, >> i spent some questions? >> thank you. thank you for being here happy to see your budget is in agreement today. my questions are really our office has been working the sheriffs department on the accommodations for inmates that arrested and [inaudible] that identify transgender. so, i know that this is been dragging on for a few months now good we were hoping that the program and accommodation will be implemented by now. so, i would love to get a sense of the upcoming, and for implementation as is been discussed with the community and one recognize we do have a member inside the gel that is on hunger strike currently that's transgender that is refusing food until accommodations are measured we would like to see this move as quickly as possible. my

position if you identified as a specific gender you should be placed in that area and so, teresa-future implementation is and also, within the budget, the training around transgender sensitivity awareness is currently and how that will be implement it as well? >> okay. first of all, when i took over in january and i been there five months now, the transgender population and all the gmc population was housed the county jail on the seventh floor of the hall adjusted in our old jail in the back of the joke. by april i was able to move the transgender population over to county jail to where they're their own housing. they are getting all the programming and they are available to go to classes with women if they please. however, everything is based on eligibility. you realize we at transgender population cycles. so right now, today we have a 11 trans

identify transgender people in a population. we've been working on it. it's one of the things i worked on since my first day in office me with the transgender community. but it's much more complicated and difficult than i imagined. supervisor kim, un supervisor campos semiologic i answer that letter i pointed out to you other than chances of challenges we've had on this issue. it is my determined policy the working to go forward and we are going to provide preference by gender identity, not by physical sex. that's where we are headed. for on the way there. if something though, that needs a lot of pending and a lot of careful consideration and training. we have about 800 deputies. we have not sworn staff. we have inmates women inmates than not expect transgender people in with them. so we need to do all this training and we've been

working and putting together a policy. i realize that we have not been moving fast enough for some people. i appreciate that because i understand the frustration. it's a frustration i share. but it's a frustration that i have to work with the reality of working with people and making sure we have all the t's crossed and all the i dr. guy conflict policy on people without making sure we're doing everything we can to make sure there's going to be a smooth transition. that's where i'm headed. >> my question was specifically the timeline. now that you've identify the challenges i actually don't-understand is a need for training a lot of people about. what is this the challenges him and after you've identified them with that, today? what you expect for implementation? >> i hate to give a timeline and not be able to stick to it. that's one of those things that is movable. i bet with chorizo spots a number of times you are met with other speak on the transgender community. i now have