achievement and some of the words i'll say the words and add a couple of thoughts the word of paced balance, set target and monitor. >> protect and act. >> all of those things are not wanting to overturn but constructively doing and lair streaking negotiating and findings a middle ground where something it possible and not stuck in a conversation that basically yells up against the impossible and undoable when you're telling me your pacing market-rate housing that creates a better battle of the legislation of affordable housing i'm interested if seeing how that can be done when you talk about setting targets for pdr i'm interested in seeing that is being done

monitoring progress and maim missing displacement all very, very important things particularly when you start to hear them together their entering independent when you look at the consequences. >> and spelling out the protection of the latino culture district as the main goal reflecting on all the others is significant and lastly talking about pdr protection is specific targets as well as requiring rapid resolution and talking about potentially looking at zoning i've laid auto a game board that is tangible and focused and inches into action. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i echo what commissioner moore used i use the word speech

also i'll blown away a great body of work i congratulate the staff and communities several thoughts i have here on page 7 of the presentation the thing that blew me uaw market-rate are contributing to the market-rate they are part of solution that's a huge shift in that philosophy and wrap our arms around i agree with the director we don't want to kill the gotten goose that lays the golden eggs and figure out the balance but siege that in the presentation to me was huge some maybe some higher level things brown-bag a couple of smaller level things there are an awful lot here he used to manage projects for

large tech companies you're going to have to prioritize what it is to do second and third and fourth and need to be based on the importance or impact and the effort so obviously you're low efforts and high impacts come first your high force and low impacts come later and string of things you'll need to do i also think you'll need to group it by activities legislation is its own screen and zoning its own work screen and mohcd whatever it is but a lot of work streams and have strategies to carry out ass under each one the sheet we need a detailed strategy, dates, e who owns it; right? and assign them to people those things

tends to drifts and make that more clear for people to get your minds wrapped up around a common courtesy of numbers you need x number of units 16 or 17 or 1650 our common currentcy on units is - agree on a small percentage of numbers uses it is too much to take on at some point a bring your attention to the board of supervisors to the small business commission, to all the other commissioner involved in that is a good idea to get

everyone knowing what we need to do i agree with director rahaim not a plan that is frozen in time we need to be able to i hate to say the words privet but a contingency plan we have a goal with the number of units assigned and not get it with the strategy and understand what takes its place a contingency plan is good especially with riskier activities i see is persistence i step back it is all encompassing a good plan but potentially something that once you get it in place leverage it citywide so i look at the a.d. legislation this is where i see this going.

>> a couple of specific things on your item 6 t i'm working with supervisor peskin office to creates an enforcement mechanism for no-fault eviction i suggest you talk about to mr. hefner on item 3 s 1979 mission coming before us i asked staff to give you a stabilizing map a quarter of a mile from mission that gives us an idea in terms of of the housing stock i know that the staff wants to stabilize the housing we started with 5 m and starts philosophically those gaps that would be helpful and dan is ready to starts on that.

>> and that's it i'm incredible impressed and love to see regular progress updates on this any questions or thoughts project sponsors coming or whatever use them. >> commissioner wu. >> thanks i want to echo the congratulations and the sense this is really pushing the boundaries of what the planning department do and really be a model for the state and the nation in that regards i think a process and is content so i'll encourage this progress to be replicated with other neighborhoods groups but as sxhifksz said much of the contents you don't have to go to the process to find o proposal and problematic pieces maybe after a time of pilot been directly applied citywide but the process and the way the

planning code works is really one i'm poster of. >> commissioner hillis. >> yeah. great progress along i think we're seeing and doing in the mission leads to changes elsewhere in the city things that happened thought mission and the advocacy around affordable housing have lead to the inclusionary been increased that is great and kind of we'll see how if unfolds but things with happening because of the work that is being done on a couple of specification i guess buy we want to see the small sites program and that continuing to be implemented and even i hate going into small sites the work can be utilized on a larger scale but having department satisfy their

inclusionary by acquiring a site we see projects downtown that tend to fee out fees are high is that a viable thaeflt what's the status we've talked about it over time. >> good evening kate hartley mayor's office of housing we had a small inclusionary go option when we were looking at not wholesaler. >> multiplied changes to the inclusionary program before prop c we were working with the smaller builders to do exactly what you've suggested now we have a whole new ball game with the inclusionary but something

we support and we think that a great idea stay tuned. >> it's a great idea we should move to implement we see the projects not great for inclusionary and need those fees to build inclusionary housing but the small program to get things online quicker and helps to prevent displacement your buying where people live now. >> if i could i want to update our small sites program is active right now i signed off on a new acquisition by meta and multiple buildings in the pipeline something we've talking about talked about the accelerator fund it underway and hope to launch this summer and that's something we think that p will get more money for the

bigger buildings not small sized by small medium and large sized. >> great funding affordable housing you know is not i mean agree topic that is talked about but a couple of meetings ago rob poole brought up how seattle funds it is on a larger scale we do it by development there inclusionary or fees and just think we autumn contribute to the crisis around affordable housing and not make it a parcel tax can raise sixth more funding tare limb i didn't they come in when we're actually building and building affordable housing probable when the economy is at a lower point sites are cheaper

i'll encourage adding that to the mix of issues and solutions as looking at kind of how we fund after i know that people are nervously going to a a citywide fee getting the voters to vote on it seems to me it the right time and on the arts pdr i destructible i know a couple of issues kicked around to build and replace the pdrs pdr is virtuosity and new development have more expensive rents and what was there so you know, i think we can learn a lot from affordable housing and creeping up nonprofits that will have the ability to manage pdr space or arts space cast is one we've

seen bryan from mohcd is here and working on that but building up that infrastructure entities and organizations that can run the pdrs spaces leave it up to the new pdr space not necessarily get there but this is great progress thank you. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much. >> real quick i agree with many of the my fellow commissioners said and he really appreciate the work of staff on all of that done a fantastic job i personally was nervous whether i heard about map 2020 a quagmire of people looking at aveng once a week for a year. (laughter) can i get that i want to join in but appreciate at all deliverables and love to get this electronically we didn't have we had a summary of many

items in the memo putting all your eggs in one basket to have it on paper and keep that real quick on the public finance topic following off of commissioner hillis i agree with adding potential other public finance tools maybe a parcel taxed or others bonds measures to the list of things to look at is great we have a precedence in santa clara their board of supervisors passed to add a bonds measure to raise the parcels tax more affordable housing particularly for formally homeless we can expand that and have a lot of measures on the ballot that are tax sort of money related but maybe something to look forward in the future the only thing i'll add on that similar topic to explore

an infrastructure or an ifds i believe we have one for treasure island noted that we don't have any it is new and influx how it will work the state law passed a couple years ago but still work around implementation personally i think that an ifd those sorts of tools and what was the tax increment only works with large development like treasure island development authority board and transbay got to have a lot of parcels to look at a larger area and group together the increment from the increased value of the property tax to bond to do anything with that i'm not sure how far i'll take that idea in the mission but again appreciate the work and the detail and looking

forward to the future and other upcoming meetings over the summer we'll talk about what you'll be doing exist for the process >> director rahaim. >> i feel i have to clarify on slide 13 about the affordable targets that slide is trying to show we knowledge the communities the fact of the matter is 24 hundred units of affordable housing as mentioned it is trying to acknowledge the city is trying to work that through i'll be rim if i didn't channel any colleagues across the building in the that are concerned about that number at this point it is a big number which is why you see some the tools listed we don't really know at this point what that involves in terms of dollars what it involves in terms of a new unions or combination of

units and stabilized units just to be clear that's the discussion we're having and be honest about that at some point of discussion by having said that, i want to shout out to the mayor's office of housing and community development for the seven hundred and 50 units those projects are fully funds that's a huge achievement from a year ago that's very important number and a lot of units coming into with the mission. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you mohcd for pointing that out director rahaim really quick in terms of solutions a couple of items look at childcare and childcare facilities and looking at larger units are in-home care i want to point outs to the staff on commissioner yee's formally proposed legislation around

essentially in-home care childcare and i believe there was important points that us and staff and other public comment brought up about how it will potentially work and some of the potential pitfalls and the other thing i asked a couple weeks ago for a memo or a summary of how our planning and building and administrative co does or did not support of childcare space i think that is something that you know objective separate track i specifically asked for but that would be helpful three or four items that relate to childcare that's the kind of information we need to have. >> okay. thank you everyone commissioners we have an sterilized calendar a full calendar i'll suggest we take a

short and medium break and maybe a second break in the afternoon >> good afternoon and welcome back to the planning commission regular i'd like to remind the members of the audience that the commission does not tolerate disruptions of any kind. please silence any devices that may sound off during the proceedings. commissioners commissioners, we left off under our regular calendars on item excuse me - no case no. for the downtowns informational presentation. >> good afternoon commissioner i'm department staff and today i'll presented a couple of humanities from the 2015 downtown plan annual monitoring report and answer any questions you might have.

>> let me get the computer - >> great. >> as i mentioned this is the annual update question do gathers data from a variety of sources and mostly purposes to the downtowns c-3 district in red those the plan covers any topic the theme insuring that downtown is a healthy center for employment one of the main carts we track at demands for commercial space as you can see and retail vacant operational rates and the afternoon office rents continues to rise at $68 per square feet at the end of 2015 and for context two years prior $54 per square feet public school the hotels are seen records occupancy and average room rates

employment continues to grow at roughly the same pass 6 percent and so, now at 6 hundred and sophomore thousand jobs in san francisco a new record and keep in mind those numbers are the last we get from the state are actually still a couple of quarters behind there is likely even more jobs currently in the city more than a third of overseeing our city's jobs in the downtowns c-3 and downtown jobs grew faster like 7 percent that is likely due to strong growth in the office segments but office jobs and hotel jobs with heavy contained in the downtown district we look towards the future 5. 1

million square feet downtown c-3 and this represents just over a quarter of office space in our current pipeline roughly 3. 1 million square feet of that office space is actually currently under construction we should see several large projects come online in the coming year again for some context he recently read in the seattle times downtown seattle has 5. 7 million square feet of office space under construction right now so shifting gears a little bit the downtown ambulance calls for the city to produce one thousand units citywide per year housing to meet the demands for housing resulting from the new office building downtowns questions nearly exceeded it in 2015 with

3 thousand units and exceeded it just and around downtown so over 40 percent of all the affordable units came online located in light c-3 or adjacent downtown residential districts this growth in housing downtown is not fully anticipated the trend will continue for the next several years a significant portion of housing in the c-3 or d t r indignity so the telephone thousand three hundred units not pipeline downtown represents the largest number of units in any area of the city not in a master plan or the development area one of the places the impacts of all this housing in and around downtown is in communities

patterns this slide is the way downtown residents get to work the way the typical downtown resident gets to work the most interesting issue that downtown residents walk to work a pretty good share downtown residents are far less likely to commute by car when we luke look at those who work no downtowns san francisco the best data is if 2010 when you compare it citywide to average downtown they're likely to take transit and less likely to drive than our typical person employed in san francisco this trend showing up in downtown ridership when you look at stations it serve downtown once again 2015 bart is a record growth at downtown stations

i'm happy to report an opening of a 94 preferred provider organization i feel like i'm giving you day old news until now i've received an e-mail in the states employment department and san francisco current unemployment is 2. 9 percent a pretty low unemployment rate 4 percent is considered fulfill bloiments we're blow 3 and happy to introduce brooks who's she's going to be joining us an, an intern commissioners, on that motion from uc berkley where she is doing a joint masters in city planning and this summer brooke

will help us do a downtowns plan it is thirty years old this year and a series of stakeholders interviews and focus groups and, of course, welcome any feedback you all have today and then if your calendar allows additional to go come back at the end of the summer or fall for updates the report is available on the website and we publish the raw data tables as well both on the website and at data sf.org so that concludes my presentation. and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> after public comment. >> thank you. >> thank you very much opening up for public comment not seeing any, public comment is closed. and commissioner antonini. >> thank you for an excellent report some real important items in that first of all, the 2. 9

percent unemployment is good news, of course, and the residential unite being created in the downtown area is impressive with the 12 hundred that you recorded in another 12 thousand in the pipeline so i think that speaks a lot to our plan to have people live and work in the downtown area and another thing that is impressive and unique as opposed to to the 7 percent that walk to work in 2010 we have 35 percent that walk to work in 2015 so for all those people that say that the new residents in san francisco all work in the south bay two many do not walk from the south bay and obviously people that both live and work in san francisco which we want to see

and then the hotel occupancy 87 percent and the employment up to 6 hundred and 68 thousand which is encouraging and probably is a accommodate a lot more 1.5 million in the pipeline some under construction. >> 5 million. >> square feet of office space in the pipeline or more under construction. >> i believe there is 5. 1 million square feet of office in the pipeline. >> in the pipeline and about 3 million of that is currently under a construction downtown. >> okay one assumes that obviously is entitled how much of that 5. 1 moles to entitled this is a significant amount it looks like it will be a continuing demand it leads us to

the need to make sure we address the prop m with the annual cap and not discourage businesses from doing what they want to do in locating to san francisco thank you for your report. >> i'm sorry commissioner wu. >> thanks it is great to hear there will be more research about downtown plan i know i'm often remember that the neighborhood planning efforts came on the heels of the downtown plan so chinatown and tenderloin was related to the downtown plan, of course, he like to see that history unveiled more or that reflected in the interviews. >> yes. of course. >> all right. commissioners on items 8 ab at 2434 plus 16th

street foreshadow ffktd and large project authorization commissioners please note own july 16th after hearing and closing public comment the excuse me - jungle 16 planning commission continued this matter to this date sxhoj commissioner fung and in order to participate you have to have viewed that video. >> i've read it. >> good afternoon. i'm emery rogers planning department staff before the staff person begins her presentation i want to spend and moment to thank you for taking those deliberations to heart commissioners this is a very first project

vance in the interim controls and there's a learn curve we appreciate the meetings and appreciate the continuance this is given staff additional wanted to respond to the conversation and add more information to the review last week, we heard our requests to spot check some of the facts and add more balance to the information that was provided to this additional balance and test for accuracy our staff, of course, is not an environmentalist and don't expect validity but rather staff spot check the submissions against is published reports the gentleman compacted the checks and will describe what was found but it is really the delivery the balanced prospective that the commission requires the most

work by staff professional assessment to the conclusions about the project in the context of the city's policy goals towards this end our current planners grandfather point policy planners including the 2020 project to go discuss the project sponsors submittal i'd like to see what was relevant not included and add by staff the gentleman will discuss the additional information about the distribution and repair and housing demand that has been studied and should be part of our deliberations after reviewing this information staff will recommend all conditions of approval for your c and appreciate the sovereigns of the controls and mirrored by the departments efforts from the directors from all levels of staff appreciate our patience as we learn 0 how to best address the issues critical to the

future of the neighborhoods. >> thank you kimberly planning department staff current staff appreciate the additional times to hear the feedback if the communities on the implementation of the mission interim controls and would like to acknowledge their, concerns and state we're further resigning our strategy moving forward reflected in future projects and case reports excuse me - >> that's that in response to comments related to this project the project sponsor provided a summary with the mission interim controls which staff reviewed and dernld the selected study if the controller's office and the board of supervisors budgeted and legislative affairs analyst report on displacement in the

mission the facts stated in the project sponsors submittal were, in fact, accurate as to the point the community offered in raising a balanced perspective the interim controls as it relates to this project for the commissions consideration is the removal of pdr space and the displacement of two auto repair businesses the department wants to clarify in more precise language even though pdr language is offered for the space the existing postcard or pdr space is displacement from the removal of the building in have a seat the literature the only reference to the interim controls that addressed the can he recall displacement is the uc berkley study and that purposes to rail, however, the

planning department data points to more rapid case of pdr in the inner mixed use this is indicated the need for a greater response from the city to assist with business retention and relocation within san francisco thus, the planning department in reviewing this application asked for pdr to be remained eat project sponsor has agreed to provide 2000 square feet on the ground floor therefore the planning department is requesting the commission add an condition of approval for the draft motion requiring the ongoing retention of pdr space additionally the project is not displacing any current residential uses or residential

tenants since that is a new resident project the project sponsor included a discussion of two different studies in the interim controls the controllers report and the budget and legislative analyst report those studies discuss the need for asphyxiating the shortage of housing - based those reports the project sponsors analysis concluded the project will be contributing though the supply of housing and have no impact on displacement because the market-rate will be less pressure on producing more affordable units now as claudia old in her presentation staffs analysis concluded that it is important

to not that the studies reached difference conclusions this would be due to the fact that the local level san francisco housing market is scooted between supply and demand the uc berkley studies agree that while market-rate development did help affordability of the regional level at a more localized block level certain projects may exudate pressures and not have the effects of market-rate as well as affordable housing have on the aggregate of displacement well more analysis is needed and is being conducted by outside researchers the purpose of interim controls is not more each project to calculate the specific fact but rather to provide information for the commissioner consideration and

for balancing the contributions as well as the effect whether or not direct or potential of this specific project awhile making the final decision and adding conditions of approval so in evaluating this project pros and cons the department found this project that includes replacement pdr space and as well as new market-rate and below-market-rate housing onsite only balance complies that policies and procedures of the general plan for the housing element the proposed project is maximizing the buildable height with a dwelling unit mix of studio or one bedrooms and 18 two bedrooms and other three bedrooms it provides so in that the project provides a range ever housing types and also it

will provide onsite affordable bringing affordable into the area with compliance many the mission area plan the existing tenants of the auto bodies repair shop and the auto glass shob shop well the alleyway auto body shop the owners are retiring and have accepted compensation and have terminated their lease the auto body shop is the safe life a formula retail national chance according to the project sponsors are not seeking their assistance so in the project displaces existing pdr those tenants are fine with the relocation or retirement although also the new building

will include new space for pdrs and further types of similarities within the area lastly commissioners at our last meeting the commission and neighborhoods expressed concerns regarding the design the project sponsor has worked on an alternative direction for the project and will come up to present to you shortly at this time the department recommends condition of approval to further work on the design with the project sponsor. >> thank you, commissioners that concludes my presentation. >> commissioners this is the second hearing for that matter 5 minutes for the project sponsor

and 2 minutes for the others. >> good afternoon, commissioners good afternoon planning director rahaim that is a pleasure to be here i'm with the architects i was here last week with the project designer in the of last week's hearing we welcome the commissioners initial comments and recame in

and redesigning the interior plus our bay windows and materials in front of you are drawings and rendering with the late changes. >> sorry to interrupt you sfgov can you go to the computer please. >> in front of are drawings area rendering showing the last changes and modified this bay window configuration on both 16 and for the street facades as on the partial plan outlines and eliminates the colored panels in particle operational and facing the street frontages those are evident on the corresponding exterior elevations we reintroduced hint of color on, on each bay window making

them less visible but just as effective while making those modifications we wanted to remain true to the original concept as presented it before last week, i said one could take agree leisurely walk in the streets and alleys and sense the significance of those pr while i can now add that one could take a leisurely walk and turn to any street corner and sense the artworks as you would when you walk around this building and get a hint of facade we welcome our further comments on working with us on the building design we will i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> thank you, commissioners

steve for mary tell on behalf of the put their life on the line we're available to answer questions and respond to the issues you may have appreciate it very much the staffs presentation on the interim controls and now interim controls we're in agreement this project sets aside the objectives and the interim control and finally point out as kimberly statistics we're doing onsite inclusionary units this is a 17 want 5 onsite requirement so we are quite high ratio that is 9 units of inclusionary units thank you. >> okay. that concludes project sponsors comments opening up for public comment.

>> i don't know if we have my cards. >> hi, i'm here to speak in favor of this project i think the developer under sold his displacement mitigation impacts because if this is 53 housing units it reduces displacement by 43 units we don't need and study it is like musical chairs compared to what is there now nobody what live there that's what i want to say thank you very much this is project is satisfactory to everybody. >> eye minimum i i'm france a resident of san francisco i want to piggyback on what and was said this is a huge project we

need more residential housing i hope you guys approve this. >> next speaker >> good afternoon, commissioners mary i'm sorry for my badly constructed letter i'm going to read the two paragraphs that no one is really covered too much one of the issues the park and loading for pdr units florida street is a wide street and to allow for park pdr units and also, we hope you'll take advantage of the situation to keep the greater 100 percent pdr to help to might the loss elsewhere it helps the communities and many stereos and galleries are trying to escape

the downtowns rents and number of live theatres preserving the arts and galleries in this area is crucial to promote the arts in san francisco rather than putting in more incremental units that is a few subdivided in that neighborhood particularly in the safeway center there is a lot of them less needs for more commercial units and more need for pdrs or pdrs this is a good place to keep the pdr and the artwork walk flowing and keep the draw coming to this neighborhood for that purpose and like i said the whole situation with the cross traffic not really being there it is on-street parking i does not catch what the colors consist of what kind of

materials and i didn't catch what the amount of pdr is in the building i see that is the same as before we request you retain off pdr as affordable. >> thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> first question i need to have answered who - what time does 9 pacific heights district be discussed i didn't get one of the venues of your data you know the meeting today. >> ma'am, we're on item 8. >> 8 is mission this is 16th street that's right. >> i'm sorry, i that is true you said pacific heights and yeah. pacific heights is by

japantown and sacramento fillmore street. >> the agenda is right there on the table that would be helpful. >> is there any additional public comment on this item 16th street? >> overhead please okay. so this is just one little project little projects like this should be easy to rubber stamp the cumulative impact of little projects like this throughout the mission essentially in my mind results in the death of a mission by one thousand cuts and you know i'm sure that anybody up here that

does medical things sort of knows that first do no harm is a principle tenants at least in the medical profession i guess i'd like to state that you know the term has not been used but it is sort of flies a lot of the current thinking of developers and that's the term highest and best use i'd like highest and best use to eliminate itself from our vocabulary but it pertains to simply a highest economic use and really not the best use so basically, the q and a exemption for this project kaunts be approved bus of the cumulative impact of all of those the and big projects in the mission and because the

eastern neighborhoods plan eir is obsolete based on significant changes on the ground subsequent to its expression or it's conclusion and essentially the ooermentz plan as a policy is also totally inaccuracy at this point in time and will need to be reexamined so thank you for letting me putting that into the record. >> good afternoon commissioner peter cultural action network i want to touch on things like the zimmermann's and kimberly

planning updates in front of i appreciate there was some work responsive to the community 0 update some of what you saw in terms of studies and planning and potential impacts we're looking at up here i wanted to touch on a few things and clarify things as well go back to the ted egan report i think that described as accurate it is currently enaccuracy cited inaccurately it says that quotes into the developers submissions gentrification good evening occur in market-rate housing because the substituted looked at home prices and notarize, in fact, they fell by 5 percent many of you know is irrelevant and what happens to register

prices the agencies they say not dribble co-related the loss of pdr businesses two of which i was happy to hear they were discussed we're losing them this is apparently volunteer through some deals but some businesses lost to the community that is is significant on a housing level this housing after i discussed it previously is gentrifying 43 units don't create 53 units but go block by block gentrification i think that thinking about the pdr and remember we're at 200 and 15 percent pace we want to see more affordable housing and pdr thank

you game-changer commissioners again mission working for the mayor's office of housing and community development first, i want to appreciate the staff report i includes things that would have been working with the department to have better project to get a better sense of the project i want to highlight again my corridor like more than one thousands of smaller than there is a motion on the floor one there was- there is none right now, we're talking about every single project that you can make in shaping this project the way we'll get repairs this is what we're thinking about that can't just in san francisco

this is one thing i happen like 53 there is not really we talk about 24 affordable housing and we want that the developers asked to close the gap and just by saying this is 17 want 5 percent inclusionary housing is going only half of the units because you requires 17 want 5 is half of the still we need the replacement of pdr not under the wire but the communities and we are not going to have those businesses later for the design i think there is still i think you can prove but the neighbors i think that will be good to have a community process for a

better design of building thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> is there any additional public comment? >> okay public comment is closed. commissioner perez. >> yeah. i think this is a very good project he spent about 10 hours this week requesting and reading studies because there was talk about not enough documentations so they said the same things in the past and you know so i also made an effort to have staff produce some figures that showed you how much pdrs was analyzed for the eastern neighborhoods mission in particular and how many housing units were analyzed for the mission in particular so i'm quite sure why staff is saying there is an acceleration of the pdr loss but according to the

statistics the staff gave me a lower pdrs loss on this 25 percent of that analyzed and under the option c only 6. 5 percent so you know i don't see that you know something that right. i assume what staff has analyzed and given to us is correct similar things exist in terms of housing units one of the reasons we'll have displacement we haven't built enough in the mission and we won't know what effect on displacement until we actually building and occupy units so this is a very good project native americans the pdr all of a sudden displacement one business going out of business and the other guys are planning

on relocating within san francisco taking up 10 thousand square feet instead of 5 thousand square feet and employing 8 more employees it seems to me that is an additional of additionally square feet of pdr in san francisco than what was there we've had 10 thousand square feet and two onsite and getting another 10 from the safe auto glass moving to another location that's 12 thousand square feet of pdr and can't be exactly in the same site and not reasonable it doesn't make sense those guys are going to move anyway, the other good thing a lot of people sent letters of support that live and work in the area i have those letters i'll not read and

except for the people that object people sent letters in support of project and you know, i have concerns with the design i think that is getting better staff what work it out the project sponsor and come up with something appropriate and you know those are the main things though i'm very much in support of project they're doing what their asked to do under the trailing legislation with prop c and until we have a feasibility study that says more can be done it's not appropriate to ask them to do anything more in a small project like this it's an excellent project we need more. >> commissioner hillis. >> so first on the design it

is going in the right direction i agree what commissioner antonini it what about worked only a bit more i'm quite sold son the color strips but i think that is vastly improved from last week a clarification on the ground level and what is there how much pdrs versus circulation space and what's changed since last week. >> commissioner steve on the ground level there is two pdr spaces each about one thousand square feet and a retail space of 16 hundred square feet and residential lobby rear yard garage entrance on the rest of the site and pdr is 2000 square

feet square feet. >> correct. >> and can the retail space be used for pdr. >> absolutely pdr is a permitted use on the ground level nothing prohibit like an art gallery or something like that. >> maximize the level of pdr perhaps have the 16 hundred postcard what's your sensed and a on it seems like a - terribly strong retail corridor what kinds of retail might work there. >> can i get the screen up. >> yes. sfgov the computer. >> as you can see on the upper right the 12 can be divided on the corner is the retail space it is sort of a double height

and next to the lobby one possibly is that the space next to the lobby can say pdr but retain some flexibility with cafe or retail at the corner. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm generally supportive of the project but you know, i like if this is pdr space on the ground level in placement of the ground level it would be great to see more pdr space but we're not the powers that require that they're meeting the grandfathering provisions of the new inclusionary rules so i think that is a good site for housing i'd like to see more work done on that with staff. >> commissioner moore. >> the fact that we would be

able to interpret the space dedicated to retail potentially is going it helps open up the discussion for pdr displacement and i think i'm personally more interested in market this towards arts pdr space than a cafe i think every project we hear here treats their coffee addiction as an island into itself and rather look at angle attitude by which a space is targeted to what is adapted and enabled me more than a coffee shop one is so addicted to coffee we can go down the block with the critical way of forming a new neighborhood creates the synergy to colonel together in a slightly more remote place and

expedite with each other and not talk about the starbuck's with that said, what is concern the high amount of car provision for 43 units for 40 cars not in the spirit of both the eastern neighborhoods as well as the market octavia plan what i know that the infrastructure for transportation is in the process of being furthers strengthened i would like to look ahead and see fewer car onsite that's a big concern and really act more on the larger policy issues and i remind ourselves we've been introduced have not new way of parking impacts that we are looking at be particular with those titanium's buildings i appreciate in one week someone tried to move the project from

being a glass lamp as described to a new description of facade i believe from my own perspective this project needs a lot more work with the departments and as i said last week i'll repeat i believe this building is the background building where the emphasis it an understandinging where you are rather than creating an image that attracts attention for it's own sake the use of glass and the way it is presented last week was described how the architecture and don't think this sounds like critical it has moved much beyond it i've interested in the residential expression one which somehow captured the industrial nature of where it is in the larger context including what; right is comes from vmd i'll look for a blend with the

existing setting back setting from a material and skill expression like to see a building which notice not designed with dimensions that come out of window systems and wall systems that are already in the catalog but like to see particular attention to the metrics of the neighborhood not premanufacture and cheap and can order if in mass quantities i'm for personal me. >> background building with a background is more important it is well detailed but under state that's what the neighborhoods deserves and everything else is something the department should this project move forward to be capable of being handled in the decision of development.

>> commissioner antonini. >> yes. mr. bell about the retail space some retail space maybe usable for pdr how much of that would be available for that use. >> jonas if i could get the screen back up i was suggesting that the area adjacent to the lobby is about potentially 8 hundred square feet. >> any point yeah, the people that don't see the details of the plan. >> that's the cursor on up there this area here. >> okay. so you've got the additional not contiguous but what would that be go realistic

for an arts. >> absolutely i would probably like to see something in our motion that might make that something that would be restricted to arts or some sort of use rather than general retail and audio us between the pdr and the arts a total of 28 hundred square feet and that might be something i'll move in a few minutes as soon as i make a motion to approve. >> we're not seeking any exceptions for parking no additional parking wire seeking i understand that make sense to me commissioner johnson. >> thank you for bringing this project back to us just a couple of things so back on the sorts of retail immoral

space that is labeled we're talking about that would be pdr which type of pdr space is that we had this discussion earlier with a project that labeled trade shop as pdr and we have this discussion whether or not that was actually pdr space so i asked the same question which zoning like which part of planning code is retail commercial it that under pdrs? retail. >> commissioner. >> commissioner the retail section is defined under in this case section 843 a basically a use category we distinguished retail separate than pdr in that zoning category so coffee shops

or corner markets things like that would be considered retail and trade shops is a separate. >> the contractors or a carpenter or tailor would be something considered a trade shop. >> okay. i don't know that i want to make an argument at that moment but wanted to in my mind retail is not pdrs some show space important work that is development in other spaces you could have more typical pdrs uses or categories of uses on pdr but retail commercial is not pdrs this is making that very clear i will say a couple of other things we've had a lot of public comment in letters and people today talking about why the entire first floor not pdrs i

won't go that far i'll say that i'm not convinced other than of the policy where we want to have a accountant account i'm not convinced of the two ground floor units they have privateers face the property lines wall of the just a few minutes building and otherwise that is assess a open space the other enclosed with back in the retail and/or the pdrs spaces so those are some units you know could potentially be on the block to convert to additional pdr square footage i might add that with the project sponsor was that a consideration and you know i'm prepared for an answer either

w way. >> - take out two floors of residential the pdrs a 1 foot a double height and take out two sets of units you're looking at 4 unit to get additional pdr we looked at the that was the problem that's why it is a better use of space to use the commercial space on the corner if you feel that is important to have more than 28 hundred and the corner retail we'll live with that as well.

>> i - it was not clear on the schematic to have the ground zero morality that's why i asked the question. >> i see the section that relates to the stacks of unit i'll bring that up you sure if you have that. >> sure if you have that. >> the next one. >> the next one yeah. can i have the screen back as you can see you'll loss two stacks of units with the pdr space deeper >> okay. thank you.

>> and then additional questions so this one's a little bit more detailed i don't know if people care about this but the bike parking in the basement level i would like whatever decision if the project goes forward do look at the skyline right now your bike parking for 60 spots is two 90 degree turns didn't make it usedable and it is difficult - yeah where our having a light only your shoulder it is fine coming out of the accelerator and another reason is challenging it should be fixed somehow.

>> i did not see your housing statement is it filed. >> yes. we filed it and . >> can you recall the delays. >> pardon. >> what the details are. >> if you have a developer operate out of the state of california and know this is it no. >> yes or no. >> i'm fine with it. >> i guess several things we're dealing with other projects recently, i look at the parking i look at the location here and somebody mentioned vacancies that safeway center it is literally a long block away kitty-corner you're at the center of a clothing store and

gym i understand the two bedrooms and two bedrooms and have a car that's 23 spaces and have a studio and one bedroom getting the additional 17 says and one car share space i think the parking is too much i also think we're dealing with other projects if i guess i'll ask staff on the parking issue your 3 long blocks from a bart station and the lines run up and down it is a rapid 55 bus satisfying can you give me something on the what the transportation are like specifically the public transportation besides the bart. >> we're on bryant street and florida so if you give me a

moment i'll pull up the - >> uh-huh. >> - yeah commissioner, i unite add advertised likely a far walk to the closet barry mid-town stop i know there is a couple business lines that run down 16th street i recall. >> i recall the - we meet with the mayor's office and they talked about the new lines this project will be surviving many, many years one of the lines is 45. >> yeah. so for i know basically this is service. >> 16th street is designed and

can become for lack of a better term a brt light it was identified in the neighborhoods plan largely fund or mostly funds at this point. >> so - that will happen. >> i wanted to point out many of my clients on the projects they ask for exception to do more than the principle amount of parking in this case when we came in with a no exception principally to make a 4. 5 parking ratio not a one by one but we didn't ask for more parking we're at want 75 not one for one on the parking ratio. >> i prefer i looked at the san francisco's and one bedrooms i gits where our coming from but

it also less than i did not have a consensus track we know that car ownership go months younger americans is much less than older americans the other question i want to ask if i want to move on to one of the units where will i pull up my u-haul units. >> you'll park on theflorida there's there's no on-street parking loading and especially for people that don't own car share that will be less than we think i like the thought of more pdr to get the need polish to envision the streetscape with a

cafe on commissioner moore's bad side but i'll support in retail in exchange for pdr obviously i'll ask staff to continue to work with the project sponsor on the design. >> commissioner hillis. >> so on the i'm going to be make a motion to approve with the conditions that staff approve with the furthers condition the larger retail space is experienced to pdrs or limited to pdr use i get that - what's that. >> this is a 16 hundred square feet retail space i understand commissioner vice president richards concerns of parking this site given where it is and i mean, if you walk around the blocks especially to the north of the site it is not the most kind of walkable

neighborhoods i think the walk to the bart is not likes walking down a commercial corridors you'll find spaces so given the fact they're in stacker and two or three bedroom units and i feel comfortable with the parking as say this is the motion convert it to pdr and continue to work on the design of the facade. >> second. >> commissioner antonini. >> i just wanted to i seconded the motion but want to do the math so we included in pdr that includes art space under the circumstances under if the definition of pdr we've got the 8 thousand and how much is the retail space. >> 16. >> so your ended up with - >> 16 hundred square feet of pdr. >> 36 hundred of pdr that's

fine and sounds good i'll - continue to work with the staff and work with the bike issues that was brought up by commissioner johnson to see if the assess what about easy. >> commissioner johnson. >> just real quick sxhifksz i i don't remember seeing anything not packet this might be me about the transition management i know one car share parking space but other types of things. >> commissioner the tdm is active the cars is the only tdm ask of park. >> i see where commissioner

vice president richards is coming from a lot of neighborhoods are not walkable i'm supportive within permitted parking i think the neighborhood in the next number of years would be spaces to make overseeing units anymore usable and liveable but certainly in the future look at conversion of space and adapt active that area will shift in 10 to 15 years we'll have a different discussion how people get around that area. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess a couple of points staff you were mentioning the issue with the gentrification and it's indirect displacement an blocking basis i kind of missed that was said around it is being studied and needs further study way come up and

let us know if you recall what was said so we can understand. >> i can speak to that absence what tare trying to say the reports was cited that the project wouldn't result in this gentrification but we're trying to provide for studies to be done to determine at the block level there is pressures so just trying to provide a little bit more balance on that was recorded by the project sponsor and giving you that information so you know more research being done. >> okay. okay thank you. >> i think to some of the speakers points given the last two presentations ago if the gap of affordable units 9 more to fulfill i think honestly a direct displacement and could be the nexus study higher than 19 percent we got to work with now

i also think anothers speaker said if someone has a choice to buy a flats i read in the mission local two evictions concurring this morning one a teacher and one an artist i encourage you to look at exactly in terms of rent ordinance enforcement and the harassment i think that small business hospital a choice to live in a different units that is new and vacated they might not be environmental impact people that maybe a direct displacement and needs more study i definitely support an issue car share space instead of a residential space but two car share spaces i support safe pdr was about 50

percent replacement. >> i'm asking way feel about >> you want to bring up the screen jonas looks like one not a handicap space could be a second car share space. >> would that be acceptable.

>> i'd like to amend the motion i can support this. >> as a seconder i'm okay. >> commissioner moore. >> we have given in project a hard time it is fair to say i believe that the use of l shape is no idea ballads a empowering unit continues towards this qualities of units below they create the right depth of the courtyard and for light and air we do not have by endorse of nested bedrooms overall it project in the infrastructure as a building is a well-designed building it need more work on it so rethinking of the facade and how the residential buildings expresses itself i'd like to ask the department considers asking

in a formal fashion some commissioners participate those discussions have really at just to occupy up in a positive way i suggest we do that. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to there's a motion there is a motion that has been seconded to approve this project with condition to include the larger retail space of approximately 16 hundred square feet to continue working with staple staffing only the design and replace one cars space. >> commissioner antonini. >> commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero air commissioners that places us on items 9 abc.

>> commissioner hillis. >> so i need to be recused on those items he worked for the city i was the octavia project manager and negotiated. >> move to you recuse commissioner hillis. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion to recuse commissioner hillis commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu stepped out. >> commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 6 to zero and commissioner antonini. >> did you have a comment. >> did you have a comment. >> off no my name is still up there very good commissioners at octavia street for the shadow

findings 2014 - cu a the city administrative will consider the va r on octavia streets please notes on may 5th commissioners after hearing and closing public comment you continued this matter until today by a vote of 6 to zero and commissioner hillis was absent that day. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the commission carli grove department staff the project on octavia streets as central m and n proposes the new construction of 5 story mixed use building with 18 hundred square feet of retail not propose miss off-street parking it is located on the east side of octavia between feel and oak center in the hayes valley hickory street

to the south and hickory to the north it is subject lots within the hayes valley and ct zoning district and height and bulk district presented in 2015 the commissioners continued the item requesting the project sponsor to activate the rear - requested additional information on fell street after meeting about the folks the project sponsor as incorporated several changes to incorporate more light and activate the rear walls the following modifications will be incorporated into both parcels n and m the eastern corners with aged away from the propelling that allows the property lines to arrange the parapet is away

from the earn edge and replaced with comblagz and sunset through the course and sunlight mirrors will be snuffed a mural for the rear wall the subject and color palate on each building will be determined by the property owners and tenants on m the 18 inch gap was removed from collecting debris a green wall syndrome the rear wall and glazing to text it is your for - on parcel n 18 inch setback adjacent to the rear yard and lightwell on the roof decks will be pulled away into the lot line and a glass wind frame added between the project two elevators to be 8 feet in height

and a wall with automatic irrigation and the project sponsor is paint the stairwell to reflect the light and - this glazing will be text it is your duty to oscillaalleviate - inc in the information additional information adjacent to parcel m on fell which looks like this which is at colored diagram we concerned they're not usedable that open space and no windows for space the windows of the units are located within a

shared courtyard reviewed the documents to confirm that was the nos were correctly sent out first, the project what has been marked as are requires the proposed project - will increase the square feet shadows by less than one half of one percent the new shadows are appearing on shortly before 10:30 a.m. the rec and park has recommended the planning commission will not be adverse second the project requires that conditional use authorization would allow a dwelling unit mix with fewer 40 percent two bedrooms 8 of the proposed 24 units are one bedroom that is equal to 32 percent and finally the project sponsor is requesting a variance and lot

size of the planning code since the hearing the department has received 8 letters of support and one additional letter of opposition i've provided did letters in the packet that looks like this this packet includes conditions of approval zip code the affordable housing in detail those conditions are super seed in the packet and changes and trailing legislation in conclusion the departments supports this meets the goals and objectives and it provides - and incorporates high quality materials in a unique developments for the octavia street wall the sponsor will provide outreach efforts and resulting modifications to the project i'd like to introduce

our staff architect to provide a brief overview of the market octavia plan. >> good afternoon david architect as carli mentioned i'll provide a brief backward on octavia in the octavia plan efforts in relation for the freeway parcels in 1989 earthquake - the redesign will bring a double decker freeway within inches of existing buildings an alternative transportation was promoted with a multiplying lane boulevard in this case in 1998 a voter initiate one of 3 pass to remove the freeway and

would octavia boulevard opened in 2005 in 22 freeway parcels were transferred to the city from the states for sale and development of affordable market-rate housing the precede in the lands and the impact fees to fund to the community transportation be benefits the build open this initiative the planning department supported by the hayes valley neighborhood association started working on the market octavia plan in 2000 adopted in 2008, the market octavia plan was a comprehensive plan to conveyance and provide substantial growth and h b and a is involved in the oversight of that plan to the market octavia principles are to create whole vibrant and

liveable neighborhoods to repair the urban fabric and to promote a range of housing types within the transportation choices and liveability of a high quality public realm and to invest public improvements with citizens involvement the hayes valley association in collaboration with the city sponsored ideas design connection for that the freeway parcels fronting octavia boulevard to set and high expectation for contemporary high quality design for the new boulevard tints was to scale and enhancement the civic investment

of the area plan oewd in it's disposition of parcels m and n embraced the world war architecture to set it apart and set it as part of disposition through the process the proposed building promotes the rfp from the mayor's office of economic workforce development it is supports the mosaic with exceptional design ape at parcels dosed at the times p and v have been built and those are the two remaining from the disposition parcels f and t are under review in the department for completing the mission of market octavia boulevard that concludes my presentation. i'm going to turn it over to to the project sponsor. >> project sponsor please.

good afternoon commissioner president fong and commissioners can you have the overhead projector please. the main question broths by the commission in the last hearing classifications regarding the existing condition at 333 of concern were whether there was any windows that provide light to the units that assess their units from the west facing expressway breezeway their through a double loaded corridor with no windows providing light from this corridors there are no windows giving light to the units that assess their units from the west facing exterior breezeway the west facing breezeway is not part of open space of the building per the permits

and the required open space for the building is provided via on internal sub facing courtyard at the podium level we also researched the property line windows and confirmed their permitted as fixed fire rates property line windows and was submitted those openings will be scloz and note that even though this document exist we're proposing changes to go 20 to our project to allow the windows to remain since the hearing on may 5th we met points manager on fell and turned out the building and met with the residents on fell to talk about the design changes and hear their ideas and february in an evening meeting on may 31st we've met that raul

the owner of the 276 oak street behind the three hundred octavia building and come to angle amendment on 7 items in if the memo your and drawings your issued today the and so that memo is here in your packet. >> we've listened carefully to the neighbors comments and concerns and come up with a list a set of several proposed design changes to the building and changes are to both buildings with minor exceptions the first to pull back the building on the northeast and southeast corners of the property line so that all of the existing west facing fire rated property line windows can

remain this faces north and south the second to pull back the parapet wall and the roof stair on the building to increase the preserved building height from blow and third to enlarge the property line windows and elevator landing and to change the stairwell to make the stairwell door for fire rate glass to bring light have not thin depth of the building. >> and into the 333 fell breezeway glass will be sutured to protect privacy and as the gentleman we'll lower the stair window to the landing window of the lobby stair the fourth change is to either

pants the building or provide and mural at the - that had been negotiated and worked with through the neighbors the fifth item to create this is the existing previously and the fifth item to create a living wall of climbing vines at 333 fell and for the backyard of 26 oak and stage steel cables and if i did to the property line wall and plants will be in planters and irrigated if our property the 6 is to purchase trees for the 333 for me fell breezeway and have those moved closer to the property line and creating a green screen to the property line windows especially from the - this will only occur on lot m

the 7 to add representative go elements to the rear stall wall that reflects the sky into the light board this change as happening in both buildings some additional items are noted in the memo agreement with the gentleman and in the revised drawers that are in front of you i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> about that in addition to the 8 property change we've made an additional modifications to the ground level room per commissioner moore combaerlgd the rooms and added a panel so the toilet can't be seen from the road with the door open they meet the accessibility requirements with those proposed change it's my hope you'll vote to approve this project we've been an active and engaged party

and meet the goals and combaefrd to create a work of architecture i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> opening up for public comment (calling names). >> for the record it is jorge did i. >> so people are aware this is the second hearing you'll be afforded 2 minute comments. >> hi, i'm a resident ♪ area for seven years and professional practicing architect 10 years of practice i compiled a packet and joined the commissions additional copies for your use here

this project is located within the market octavia plan, however, not conform to several the policies written within the policy which limits heights along the israel to provide amble sunlight for the proposed project didn't meet the plo that asked for mixed use and mixed income the last time i was aware of this project that was market-rate some of the design principles that is fiscal year against on i've underlined on page 4 that creates special interests as opposed to blanks wall if all the windows are closed that

appears the building is nothing but a blank wall and the next discourage dwelling unit mergers from the language of the project itself it appears that someone buying units will have the ability to buy more than one unit and combined them vertically creating a less dwelling unit than proposed as i go on two more specifics octavia market octavia design principles number 3 - oh, yeah. if a project differs by one or more height the stories from the prevailing setbacks the project and lastly to void creating walls

thank you, sir, your time is up. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we called alexander (calling names). >> good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, i'm alexander a tenant of 333 apartments for 2 two years i have written already my complaints and again, to the members of the commission through the lady and summarizing it i would like to remember that in the 3 the building was conceived and built with an facade and they invests

money it is more expensive to interrupt a building with balconies and windows than just the building with a blind wall they invested money and - so it was presumed that the breath of the facade of building and late in 2002 and 3 the billboard was designed again, i recall the pictures of octavia boulevards and our house stood as facade of the building looking on octavia boulevard what did which i know since 2002 as we see ♪ history our has was supposed problem facade house so this project occurs great harm to any

apartment and 16 other apartments and we do ask you, please consider canceling this construction it would be the only change which makes some difference thank you >> thank you, sir. >> hi, i'm a neighbor and i'm reading on behalf of jim chapel the former member of spur i'm sfroong in favor of what is discussed as submitted by the project component i have no interest more represents any organization and am writing as a private citizen as a executive director of spur from 1994 to 2009 i'm 2000 was the instigator and active in the planning

department establishment of better neighborhood program to provide as successful market octavia plan i was co-sponsors the pride international competition for the first prices was won and that was berry numb it is 3 hundred proposal before you i was not a member of the jury that selected the winner i urge to accept the proposal it meets all the goals of the city of san francisco and the pride importance in holding approximately consolidations it is a suburb design and it was why r was the winner it sxhofrmz to the market octavia plan and it has no parking it is successfully engages the

beautiful market octavia and supported by the hayes valley association and please does not building swayed by the individuals who want to prevent this and - the owner of the building filled the declaration required to claurs close their blind windows it is the appropriate duty of commission to authorize this project. >> thank you. >> i'm guideline wanting the hayes valley neighborhoods association and i come to support the development to accommodate concerns i follow a execution of president that are in the neighborhoods and advocate for the market octavia plan this plan processes sxhutd the outreach for property owners over 10 years before final

approval before the board of supervisors other 10 years followed to develop the property with multiple noticing the membership helped to create the market octavia are the intention to make that neighborhood safe through street level commercial activation their eyes on the street and interesting spaces lead to job and help the neighborhoods the r and m development will have over 10 years experimenting with interesting contemporary projects and with the tenants the beer gardens and san francisco bike and coffee business they've shown compassion offering free use and movies and local artists galleries it will provide a unique set of homes for residents eye a streets scene that reflects the communities

the open air approach at the sidewalk and potential additional on hickory street continues the plan to help to create a safe and active neighborhood urge you to approve that development thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. >> good afternoon, commissioners i've spoken in support 37 project in the past today, i like to read a letter from paul that couldn't attend so commissioner president fong and commissioners i'm writing to express my strong supports for market octavia there's as a long term neighborhood with the hayes valley association i'm familiar with the planning on this the design competition the promise of development and the mroovk plan that was called the better

neighborhoods the ballot measure resulting in their tear down of the freeway as well as protective housing to be built envelope a and d has done a terrific job in producing paralyze that should have been not stripping i'm pleased there is no requirement the project sponsor has adjusted their design don't accommodate the people living in the joining building in the adjacent building was constructed with the understanding that the windows will be removed do pardon project sponsor is going above and beyond to be a good neighborhood neighbor after winning the design envelope a and d have released known as proximities i've worked closely that the neighborhood to bring

positive energy their design for octavia a described do activate the streets and providing a much needs two bedrooms and affordable housing equal designed and well-thought-out oinlt housing a good mix and no parking is going a great benefit to the neighborhood and city that long. >> ago regard that thank you >> thank you >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm matthew a managing partner the beer gardens and i'm here to office space show my supports for others project i think the architect have brought great stuff to hayes valley i've been

there over 20 years it is really given a boost to the renaissance in the neighborhood i'd like to see that continue with this project is a great choice tassels thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i'll call some more names (calling names). >> hi, i'm the owner of propeller a retail fortune store our hayes streets on the streets for 13 and a half years well before the freeway was taken down i had the pleasure of witnessing the competition and was really impressed with that which proposed certainly and the beauty of it so for that much of

which has been proposed ohio level of design integrity and built this is one of the projects that has stood out to me back then along with the proposal and what has become of proxy there's an opportunity here to build a building that has integrity that brings a level of respective for the architecture not only in san francisco but certainly in hayes valley specifically and it is seems the issues at hand a lot of has to do with we've really not have a building there at all i don't think that that is sensible dpooins for the neighborhood and the reality people mentioned this project speaks to all the issues that

have been raised and goes beyond them and accommodating those needs and desires the tenants of that building and you know there are a lot of buildings that go up all over the place their medicine cac and here's the opportunity to have something special and considers the needs and usage desires of the neighbors and i support it wholeheartedly and doug the whole envelope firm have really you know shown they're for building a better hayes valley. >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> north. >> afternoon i'm enthusiasm support this project i've lived in the neighborhoods for more than a quarter of a century an active member of the market octavia cac, spearheaded the

effort for the aaron starr the freeway and worked with community groups to organize the sf pride competition no 2005 that competition awarded doug designs for parcels m & m amongst entries throughout the world for two complex size based on the city's need to purchase and develop parcels m & m equipment for changes for the neighbors concerns the design is pretty much the entry from 2005 meet all the criteria of the market octavia plan it offers a variety of units and engages the streets with ground floor retail and improved pedestrian realm has no parking and provide bmr units onsite this is the poster child's for the market octavia plan

as someone that worked for over 2 decades for market octavia it is my deepest hope this and other housing will go soon be built on the remaining parcels lynn the boulevard eased mandated by prop i in 1999 and my dream to see the fulfillment of octavia boulevard to knit a neighborhood scared by the torn down freeway it is critical to the competition completion for all those reasons he urge you to move this project. >> thank you, sir. >> raphael i'm speaking as someone that lives and rides my bike i'm supportive of project

to bring people to the corridors that could be activated and make the neighborhoods a better place to live you know it interesting about the area you can probably you know wh you know what expect i'm not an architect but probably one of the most challenging it is one the narrow areas and the project has done a terrific job making amendments with not much flexibility a great use of space sorrow and you can say this all, you know, housing there one day question plan for it and design the best project you possibly can i don't know how to build without restricting some sunlight this project has done a great job with the adjacent neighborhood and the people that

support this project i hope we don't set a precedent so i am supportive and thank you for your time. >> thank you, sir. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and commissioners i'm greg i'm here today to express my strong support for the paralyze as long term hayes valley residents in the current vice president of the hayes valley neighborhood association and a karnts will real estate developer working on parcels h j v and t i'm imitating familiar with the market octavia plan, the neighborhoods dynamics and building mixed use projects in fill locations parcels m and n are difficult

sites to develop, however, envelope has embraced the challenge to propose to thoughtfully designed new projects in the spirits of market octavia plan the projects containing a mix of 40 percent two bedrooms, zero parking both designs and active ground floor sites and inclusionary housing parcels m and n are wonderful works of by design the 16 foot wide parcels result in small and efficient residential spaces allowing for monthly lower costs and the construction costs are reduced requiring the revenue to make the projects work financially and work with the market octavia and transit first goals m and n are the types of projects we need to embrace over the last several

years our neighborhoods have seen crime and encampments the lots are littered with needles and we struggle with theft and property damage their activates go empty lots and better connect the hayes streets. >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> hello commissioners commissioner president fong i'm ryan patterson for the owners on hickory streets those are the two properties immediately hidden a adjacent to operational n as in november and probable the most effected

due to a lack of notice not able to engage in the planning process but i'm happy to report that we were able to come to an agreements with the developer on pretty condense timeframe and they have been sfleft to our requests and make xhoomentsd i want to go thank carly and doug for working hard with us and mr. berry not only came down to any office and - our list of 7 accommodations is included in your packet from an e-mail and boss of items have been read into the record we asked you to include and conditions of approval there are 3 items that will be done by private agreements between the parties

those include the night life notice restrictions and is make sense or maintenance assess to the property as relocating the lot windows to the skylights thank you to the commission and planning department staff and mr. ma'am, i'm gym a long term residents and the official letter you've received really express most of the point i'd like to point back to a couple of things one of the first issues is you know this is these

lots were created by prop i the voters initiative and designated as viable sites in 2005 and all of the work that's done under there the design and expeditions and community engagement are really getting us to the point of outstanding architecture providing 23 homes go 8 with 12 and a half percent footballs david winslow in his presentation talked about repairing the urban fabric that's market octavia boulevard and when you look at the building of 333 fell and, or go by to everyday actually, you see

one does that looks at noting nothing like the others you have an opportunity to repair the fabric this an excellent project and especially with the extraordinary changes i think you have a proposal in front of you that has absolutely flawless i hope you can support it i'm sure you will thank you very much. >> is there any additional public comment? >> miller public comment is closed. >> commissioner moore. >> an extraordinary event with an unconventional site to produce architecture of high integrity and setting the bar higher than we get do work with this was not for m that reason

the project was sent back primarily to answer those questions but we as a commission have to have answers and be previously clear the ideas of property line windows what is behind those windows and how a building effects the other one relative that was more than explained we received prior and again presented today so i'm i feel comfortable with all the aspects we asked for what i found interesting is that beyond that, the building - the architect as engaged with the adjoining property owner and residents that in the 5 weeks between meeting last time and today, the building has indeed shaped itself to more address the dialogue between the two

buildings and that is very high on any list of positive comments but it is not just sticking with the date and saying i stick that that and what else do you want but the realization that extra attention to detail we have to fight all hard to get it today, we get it i appreciate your thoughtfulness about my concerns the aspect of the rooms opening to the public street when i thought about it was a reasonable challenge we don't want to go in there i'm in full support of all the thoughtful responses to the questions we've raised and move to approve with sequences. >> second. >> second. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on

to go there's a motion to approve with conditions. >> we have another motion that precedes that that is the exceptions of the small impact of shadow. >> your motion will exclude that. >> commissioner antonini excuse me. commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 zero. >> zoning administrator, what say you? >> on the variance, close the public hearing and and grant the variance. >> commissioners move on to item 10 for case 9 avenue and if those persons departing will do so quietly i'll appreciate it.

>> it's really freezing in here are you going to do anything about it or

(laughter). >> good afternoon, commissioners wayne planning department staff excuse me. the numentd is a request for conditional use authorization to establish a formula retail use restaurant doing business as as lemonade an 19th avenue on irving street in the inner sunset neighborhood the site is a currently vacant previously a formula retail use doing business as as la jolla have lounge a restaurant specializing in healthy can yu sine.

>> we have a letter from the inner sunset merchant and the again and again the sunset height of responsible people and the inner sunset park neighbors and 4 letters in opposition primarily concerned it as formula retail use the formula retail concentration in the neighborhood didn't change because of the proposed eye repairs a if you recall it complies that the zoning in the general plan and supported by the merchants and neighborhood groups that concludes my presentation.

i'm available to answer any questions. >> project sponsor project sponsor good afternoon. i'm the founder and ceo of lemonade i'll talk about our brand and concept it is built as a cafe and my main focus it create a restaurant that you can go to and basically peak inside a chefs refrigerator refrigerator looked that good and the memo is predominately seasoned vegetables it is $2.75 we want to commend focus an fine food and serving fine food

quickly we don't fall infrastructure fast food in that we're serving things like melon - it's a california snoring borrowed and when - i'm excited to join the sunset neighborhood as you can see we talk about season outlet we change the memo

6 times a year but it gives us the ability to change our memo to have and use the most current vegetables we talk about ourselves as a comfortable place we found in every neighborhoods we are part of the fabric of that neighborhood whether a small suburban street like manhattan beach are san diego we're the fabric of that community ultimately we think our success really comes down to food and being a food centered company will i'm going to introduce our cfo has joined the company in

the last few years. >> afternoon commissioners and commissioner president fong i'll speak about the company and is specific premises at 1266, 19th avenue 22 lemonades at presents yerba buena on mission the recent opening we expect to open palo alto soon in the next couple of days and walnut creek and west portal in the next year we're excited to come to the bay area we believe that san franciscans specific northern california understand and appreciate our food and the look and feel of our stores as of 1266, 19th avenue we love the block we love the access to the

park and being a part of that neighborhood and looking forward to becoming a community gathering spot as la jolla have lounge wwas before - this is t at prior lounge open outside the 11:00 a.m. and open for breakfast it is just a beer and wine operation no hard liquor we expect to open the store if all is according to plan around the first of the year and let me show you some pictures. >> so this is the current design of the store not changing much in the lava lounge those were there the gate was interest we're putting up signage

here we go a look at the inside of store design for communal eating people what hang out a lot of items to drop in lemonade and come for lunch and dinner come all day i believe that's it we're excited to be part of community had a lot of discussions with all the different community groups and to they've been very supportive we we welcome all their involvement in shaping the project that's for me i'll have another representative coupling to share facts with you. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the commission i'm taylor gordon with light house public affairs and submitting some of the

support letters from the neighborhood associations that didn't make it into your packets those are from 4 organizations we presented inner sunset must not association and the association of responsible people addressed again and again heights all present support letters i'd like to give you those and that's all i have thank you very much i'm available to answer any questions. >> i have one speaker card lawrence i'm lawrence secretary and treasurer of inner sunset neighbors i'm here not only because of the letter that the boards of i espn wrote i've been involved in all the

neighborhoods outreach activities as a recipient from the lemonade team i want to give you an idea from a stand point of a person that lives in the neighborhood to be a recipient of this amount of outreach over the seven years i've been telegraph hill involved in the neighborhood we've had a number of businesses come into the neighborhoods most of them do the minimum of outreach check the box combhat planning requires and that have actually go engaged with the neighborhood and made a point of using the neighborhood association to reach out to the american royals members and get them involved lemonade the first restaurant to do it when they did their initial outreach to the neighborhood and opened the space and showed us the offering and talked to us

about the what the interior about look like and what the plans were hook line did an article on the event and of the article and comments were on next door i was a lead were extremely positive you have a couple of off people that said i don't like it is that's well and good but theres been further attempts and next door by conventional people we don't like it the comments other people next door have run about 14 to 3 in favor of the lemonade i can say a isp n didn't do an active outreach for the thousands that are subscribers i believe if i walk down the

street you'll find out of every 20 people that wounded know marina what you're talking about and the others 15 will be in favor the project as a resident in the neighborhoods over 20 years i urge you to approve that project and get the restaurants into our neighborhood thank you very much. >> public comment? >> not seeing any, public comment is closed. sxhivengs. >> we've heard the lemonade story on the west portal i met with the project sponsor if so is it a great business the concentration is on this 9 percent in the reports i think that a complimentary and has the support of neighborhood i move to approve. >> commissioner moore. >> we spend a lot of time the

lounge was in there this is a like exchange. >> yes. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions on that motion commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong and good luck to you. >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously. >> commissioners, that places you under item 11 geary boulevard a conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon go commissioners wayne from the planning department staff the item before you is also a conditional use requesting to establish a formula retail limited restaurant use doing

business as starbuck's the proposed location on geary boulevard which you'll know a shopping center bounty by geary boulevard masonic boulevard it is within a mc-3 zoning district has part western edition neighborhood it's a been vacant since an stephen remodel in 2013 no public comments on this project and the subject tenant space no streets frontage so regardless of the action you take today no change to the formula retail in terms of the way it is currently measured the staff is recommending approval and the general plan and is compatible with the exists neighborhood context that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions thank you. >> thank you. >> project sponsor please.

>> good afternoon, commissioners mark reuben, junius & rose on behalf of the starbuck's just to provide absence more context and background starbuck's is proposing to more often 0 to the last vacant retail use which is on gear, 0'farrell and masonic and the city shopping center covers the block built in the 1960s to house seeing and hearing none restraining order buck and the good guys and office depot historically a sites for formula retail uses and continued with a project that was approved in 2011 to bring city the fact of the matter as the anchor tenants in 2013, the comprehensive

renovation of the city center was complete and that back in may of 2014 a number of smaller retail formula appeared to open there was one remaining retail use that is starbuck's we're here to seek our conditional use authorization and culminate the project approved in 2011 the project designer is here to answer any questions and so the representative of the starbuck's i wanted to briefly run introduce a few photos to put into context where the tenants spaces and the entire project site it is very informative.

>> one moment. >> okay. this is a map of city supervise looking 90 north the arrow is paycheck as you can see there a wall a line of retailers right there and starbuck's is going into a bread a subway a g nc and i believe a best buy auto place where you can get cool speakers put into our cars this is an up close see the orientation the face faces away from o'farrell street that means when our looking it from

are o'farrell street it is hard to see the tenants as you can see the vacancy this is a view further the entrance to the space this is a panoramic i took a few today's ago staubz is going into there so i'm relia e available to answer any questions. >> opening up for public comment if there is any. >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. i have a question you might have answered it what location what suit is this replacing and what who was there before. >> nobody was there before there is the last remaining vacant space since 2011 the parking lot is e. >> the lower or upper.

>> there's - this is targets parking lot right here this is best buys down here the parking lot for united states traffic beauties and this is what we call the small tenants it is parking lots e assessable on the down slope of 0'farrell. >> so, yeah okay - >> eatable delight. >> yeah. a bunch of fun stuff i'll leave it so i can see. >> commissioner moore. >> i believe this location is really you have formula retail use and all the formula retail use the times we spent on parking lot and disappointment of new lemons including the repositioning of the large facade of that building all aspect speak for this as a good tenants their formula foods

don't serve coffee and i think this is the rights choice i'm normally not a great fan of starbuck's i'm sorry to tell you that note on offense in this particular locations it is basically, the rights combination i'm in support and move to approve. >> >> technical and commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to there is a motion that has been seconded to approve if this matter with conditions. >> commissioner antonini. >> commissioner hillis commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero. >> commissioners that places us on item 12 pine street this is also a conditional use authorization. >> good afternoon, commissioners mary woods of department staff the applicant

is seeking a conditional use authorization to allow the de facto demolition of a single-family home he and reconstruction of a single-family home in 2013 a majority of building was illegally demolished and be insert others second floor level the previous house had about 41 hundred square feet and contains 4 bedrooms and 41 hundreds square feet with 5 bedrooms before the conditional use is required good the removal of a residential unit for planning code section staff has received 6 letters in support and no opposition to the project the departments recommendation is to approve with conditions this that concludes my presentation.

i'm available to answer any questions thank you. >> thank you. >> project sponsor please. >> good afternoon principle of the wise studio and replacement of structure the we tasked with insuring the single-family home is respectful to the remaining building facade and appropriate to the immediate neighborhoods context as you can see from the photos we're provided in our packet the surrounding properties surveyor from single-family a four units 40 feet tall in the centers most of the rear yards are 15 to 20 yards above the street city plan escape and basements and garages as typical consistent with what we're proposing as a replacement structure the proposed you single-family

units incorporates the design strategies for restoring this and creating a harmonious footage and with the expectation of the new garage which is about 8 hundreds and 65 square feet and then an additional square feet on the first floor as cack seen on the fronts elevation the project is designed in terms of of consistent with the height of the surrounded properties or looking at a flat roof and a sculpted penthouse to minimize the overall height of the structure is there a way to zoom out on this. >> yeah. on the top.

>> and is garage structure when is slightly credentialed it will be a space for the residents and partially mask the first floor and helps to soften it a generous place to the right of the garage and i'm looking at the proposal and plan the proposed structure it approximately a little bit about 4 feet shorter than the previous structure allowing for more generous rear yard and setback 3 feet that would be helpful in minimizing the impact on the just a few minutes rear yards to the prosper along webster street and helps with the property directly to the north a webster streets address working closely

with the staff and the rtc it is one respectful and fits in would the neighborhood and minimize the impact on the rear yards and supported by signatures in supports and joined by the project sponsor and i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> any public comment on this item? okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> yes. one question for the project sponsor the i might have been one of the people that filed a complaint i drive by this site i saw the building come down piece by piece you're part of, llc. >> yes. >> what posed you to knock the building down without a permit and the live we purchased was in

disrepair and getting permits for the storage space to have it the contractor ended up deciding to take down the building as a precaution and as long as the front of building was maintained i take it facade was preserved not trigger a demolition what the notice of violation was filed and we were made aware of the issue we immediately hired the structural engineer and the folks to help might the situation they filed for an emergency permit to support this facade and once that work was complete we fired the contractor and have working closely with the department and staff to get this project back to the point

it meets approval and reverses essentially the building that was previously there. >> one other question the live are buildings was a light blue or gray and stuccoed over will you take off the stucco and restore the wood. >> there's a rendition. >> oh, >> go ahead. >> so as you can see from the rendition it is more traditionally. >> i think this as great i know this side if you uncover other shadows under the stucco will you replace that in kind. >> yes. there was cornice and

details to restore in kind. >> i can support those of you put that back. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> for the commission page a-1.1 i called under swhoourts the webster building sits close to the proposed restoration of this building she reshudders me that short distance is not impacting any liveable space without objections to the, being as closed if that's not the case explain that in detail or ms. wood you want to explain that i

want is commission to be aware of that pinch and that situation there. >> explain that letter is there. >> mary woods of department staff yes, sir. commissioner moore the owner of 1914 webb store sending the support letter mr. joe lives at 1814 webb store. >> you have to acknowledge that i imagine many acknowledgment will be in the records with no dispute. >> i'll include this as part of docket file. >> i'm in support of project. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. he read the historical resources valuation gives is

histories and very nice to see this house is roarsed and the italian dial i think that that is going to be a very nice restoration before stuccoed in the 40s so i appreciate this project and i move to approve. >> second. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i just want to add as a condition of approval that the what is underneath the stucco the shadow get replaced with lifetime materials that will enhance the beauties. >> what will it documentation be photographs. >> mr. lindsey can you help me

out. >> mr. lindsey typically we ask for photo documentation issued which i imagine we have some photograph documents within our - >> once the stucco is removed. >> my understanding most stucco was removed. >> perfect that is a grand ideas with the motion maker and seconder allow that. >> i can't say wait to see what it looks like thanks i appreciate that. >> as amended to include a condition to documents. >> and replace them. >> and replace them. >> on that motion commissioner antonini

commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu and commissioner vice president richards and sxhongs so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and place us on item 13 terryville street. >> good afternoon sxong and commissioners andy of department staff a request for conditional use authorizations and hours of operation until 2:00 a.m. 7 days can week doing business as rip tides located on terryville between 46 and 47 within an nc one district the subject project was put on hold when the person next door destroyed the bar and

now to restore the bar and installed installation and others soundproofing equipment to be better accommodate the live music the department is aware prior to the fire entertainment was there since 2003 and request for the conditional use authorization seeks to legalize that use prior to the operation in 2003 they had a history the providing entertainment without the necessary permits the calendars of events will run until midnight with events on tuesday and thursday often going until one a.m. it results if a more viable and locally owned business and provided a necessary and desirable for the neighborhood there are there few

mraermsz and it helps the city maintain a small-scale venue that hosted upcoming artists the department haseceived an outpouring of support for 14 letters and many snatches is a sample of letters in the pathway and in addition the department received 9 communications in opposition one coming after publishing of the staff rotator that will be distributed now they're not entirely opposed to the entertainment but want to see hours of operation reduced in week days it has noise and smoke from people and trash in front of the of the bar and incidents of public intoxicate based on the level of supports and some of the concerns identified the department

recommends limiting hours of operation ever entertainment a subjects zoning district allows for friday and saturdays one a.m. curfew allows for gradual existing of planners that closes at 2:00 a.m. and is conditions of approval within is drafts motion under condition 9 a memo prepared of one year following the authorization for an update whether there are noise and other nuisance and how they've been resolved as a reminder in addition tattoos planning commission they conduct their own permitting process to make sure it is certified and lastly the planning codes will prohibit the electronic between midnight and 6:00 a.m., however, the same code section you may allow

amplification the facts to establish to be operated to minimize to residence in and around the districts weren't to crowd control and posted notice that the exits of bar and allowing for existing between 1 and 2:00 a.m. suggests the viewpoint that be minimally disruptive therefore the department buildings our presents authorized electronic amplification on friday and saturday night to 1:00 a.m. that concludes my presentation. >> opening up for public comment i'm sorry project sponsor. >> good afternoon. i'm david and this is leslie we've been business partners for 20 years the past 12 at the rip tides and around 2000 you'll see blues and

jazz previous inner incarceration and in 2000 we approached the landlord and negotiated the lease we got the lease and had it rebuttals up to code the wire and plumbing from the 40s built in 1941 we immediately resumed the entertainment as all of incontractors believe it or not this is the only huge lot of lands hopefully more in the future but we've had any local bands and djs but there is national and international from china ace bosnia and cuba and

not like a huge place it is independent about seven hundred square feet small neighborhood bar the entertainment is low impact it is bluegrass, jazz open mike eye karaoke we need another letter from the chief we are that's in the process already and as - what we have an untested space abag because first, the fire started next door to us i'll show you some photos okay this is a is bar before the fire it is upside down as you can see (laughter) this was so the in the front door the fireplace is where the bands sets up and basically have

the lamps on the harp there and the resolution curtains we lost all that and the fire after this is what we were left that basically the same angle we were crushed the staff lost their employment and tough year but we feel a little bit of silver lynn the blessing the redwood studs a stringerers are still there only because of fast action of the fire department this is the clean up afterward as you can see our facade remained and a 3 alarm fire it was about to take over the whole block the 3 stations take care of it and saved our honkey to know. >> give us a change to- never

installation so we puts first started with kills pant that is a thick latex paints and put so many coats our first barrier before the bar a quarter inch of paneling as the only installation and we use the best i believe this is the best on the market the r thirty installation and puts that not only in all the walls north, south, east and west but also in the ceiling so all of the ceiling is covered as well as the reproach so slow incapacitated this place into a box after that adam 5 inch sheetrock

and one layer of 5 every single surface as green glue a jelly like substance and green glue jelly never dries it is hard to pass through 5, 8 to 5, 8 and especially mild the original knotty pine this is the shot of that and quickly we'll show you some of the reimbursement no

installation whatsoever we installed the bluegrass band playing the curtains thick red curtains which we're now stepping up and articulating the rose sound curtains in the opera and the huge curtains come crashing down it lessons the sound and - those are more thought is - the panels and yeah, he get that one and question also put the panels behind did curtains themselves and also above the band we have the same panels or had them move on you see the front facade

and puts in instead of pain windows but double top-of-the-line and the door doors is solid as before there's a solid core door for your and this is an example of double-paned and the iconic thing actually supervisor chiu and supervisor tang had spent so much energy over so many years to create the streetscape improvement in 46 to the great highlight and the fire fire happened right after in june on sunset that's the ribbon cutting and it happened right after that but we have parklets and build

outs and page trees so the block is very quiet right now and looking forward to coming back and many other businesses are coming in to help it come back - but have the land use entitlement to 2:00 a.m. and the entertainment commission can twrarl the hours to the neighborhood and have flexibility and 2:00 a.m. is misleading none plays until 2:00 a.m. the bartender is the only one that blocks of time we'll use so we feel like the

land use is event to 2:00 a.m. make sense the entertainment commission will not only watch over but take away our permit if we're bad neighbors that concludes my presentation. >> okay. thank you very much and open up for public comment maybe a few of you may be line up on this side of the room whatever order you want to speak that would be great. >> hello doctor nice to see you i'm mark and here to support the permit application by the rip tied the rip tied is essential to this city i'm a native san franciscan watched as many of the venues and creativity culture ebbs out of our city due

to rising prices and gentrification the rip tied is not only a neighborhoods institution but brings poem to the neighborhoods on a regular basis. >> accurately gage the rip tides importance by the way the community radical newcomers musical benefits and kickoff campaign and people from all walks of life offended financial support couldn't imagine san francisco without this rip tied i'm one of the people i ask you grant the rip tied the application san francisco will thank you for it. >> good evening commissioners i'm malaise i am across the

street and working with the owners who try to mitigate the sounds leakage and out usage issues from 2008 they amed up their amplified events i've had prior to the fire a discussion regarding you know them getting a decimal meters and i would deal with him one day and corrected for about a week or so and the noise level comes up we have other neighborhood issues not deal with the noise but things are brought under due to live entertainment that has to do with with the policing of the partners that again hopefully

falls on the entertainment commission to put the proper conditions of operation to apply i actually am looking forward to them making their entertainment legal they'll be finally someone account to i've spent memorandum multiples years to have a quality of life how i can enjoy peace and quiet i've got double-paned windows and installation i shouldn't have to listen to hillbilly whatever while having a conversation with my mother what was the last conversation she had twenty-four hours left to live and couldn't escape the sounltdz of hillbilly i didn't they've not proper

soundproofing i don't know if they'll revolve the problems they've not done ouch to us who live one 2 to three hundred feet of establishment i think 2:00 a.m. is excess he respective andy recommendation of 11 o'clock during the week i think that was 12 o'clock or whatever i know the terryville station is asking for 10:00 p.m. during the week because the amount of excess noise and is stress and strain on their department i i guess my times is up there's

an inclusion i believe folks wants to see that. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> >> next speaker, please. >> i'm sky good evening commissioners the ongoing noise is a nuisance and the issues that effect the quality of life for those especially that live on the 36 hundred block of tearing terryville not allow am fiduciary sounds until 2:00 a.m. to protect my right and others right to quiet use and enjoyment of their home

the bar didn't take accountability and the needs to accommodate the controls placed on them deception of the representatives is well documented spending that most of life living in this area i've seen it grow however, it is both commercial and private residences in the san francisco area it has been riders by other agencies with the san francisco pd and the abc and the team for the same and or all the recommendations they've asked for compliance of all boards as so forth in the codes and sanctions this is only conceived or

concerned the residents within the area specified not those living outside the area such one to three hundred feats also ignorance law no excuse they've ignored the law and felt they were grandfathered in so be therefore i request kindly not allow them to have the entertainment thank you very much. >> good afternoon commissioner and good afternoon commissioner president fong i'm cammy blackstone and here with 3 difference perspectives one for 5 years i worked at the district

4 legislative aide to to carmen chu and for supervisor tang and during that time i worked a lot with the neighborhoods and answers every single constituent called over the 5 years did we get a complaint about the rip tied to the contrary we found the owners engaged and in the sunset district doing a street fair for the neighborhood and holding if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer thems that kind of stuff when i left districts 40 went to the entertainment commission and over others two years we never got any complaints about the rip tidy know they were away 5 years into the business they needed to get and entertainment permit

because thai went throttle cu they were up to that point - since is fire seems like the sunset district lost a lot of the heart and soul and david's mentioned there are no entertainment venues west of twin peaks the neighborhoods is vital and not a lot of attempt going on i know a lot of people came to their aid a lot of uproar when the fire happened and people are excited for them to only open but come into compliance is entertainment commission itself does a good job of making sure that treatment venues do what their supposed to side have inspectors and sound engineers so far this thing bar is not tested they're

in the process of rebuilding but they get an entertainment permit and open they'll have to go through a permit test so i think that we can have some sort of xofth that the entertainment will be under the jurisdiction the entertainment commission and they do a good job so until 2:00 a.m. to my knowledge not going past midnight make sense for them to come back and go through other cu pro is will be difficult and having the entertainment commission regulate and maybe give them a trial periods to 10:00 p.m. or whatever come back here i'm asking you grant it. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hello my name is geena sunsetted and a

proud resident for 16 i want to talk about 3 relationships with the rip tied and live entertainment effects them i'm the assistants manager and love it and it is a free environment that helps the communities the by itself aspect of the job that i love giving local bands and musicians from our community a fun and safe place to express themselves so for them to get they're big break so musicians need to play in the rip tied this is if on their must do i'm a producers of a 7 years bureau less show i have local performs saying this is safe it is a community and the regular street

light they're a welcome family member this combination is hard to find in san francisco night life and towering gifts want the rip tied on their tour the sunset is my father place to live in san francisco and rip tied is one of the reasons to come here this past year it is dark for many people myself included it is enforceable to find a safe communities to go and listen to live music or play bingo with their friends without the rip tied offering free treatment the communities of the sunset has changed i don't spend my money but i pray for the day to walk into the rip tied and dance with my friends this is

how live entertainment has affected me thanks to the rip tied. >> thank you. >> in depth. >> good afternoon. i'm mary a native born san franciscan and lived in the sunsets district all my life i live near the rip tied that is my home away from home and regular at the bar and don't want to say it is 0 somewhere where everyone knows your name and glad you came it is a family 6 communities and as cammy was saying they participate led you the owners they participated community recommended fence if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer thems and toy drives and reality are you know great responsible owners i feel they

have a great deal of integrity i i know that is empty since is fire would no where to go as far as the 2:00 a.m. it is necessary people are talking about you know the music being loud i've notes heard and i've been going through there for years the you know the mediums age is not 20 kids don't go there to make noise advertised not a loud electrical music it is bluegrass and soft music yeah. a base guitarists but you know i've never been - the community needs and wants and the rip tied is an institution it is jewel

and very important part of communities and i think the entertainment license that would limit that they'll have to stop at 10 i don't agree with that 2:00 a.m. cuts off makes a lot of sense like i said young kids don't come there not butt kicking music loud and crazy it is local bands it is something that sort of sets the modes of the rip tied a nice mood and i do not think there is a lot of activities outside of bar it is egregious we're two old to be staten island outside of a bar so - practical extend to that's

what we need thanks. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening commissioners i'm michael i live in the sunset area to the rip tied and also there for the last 9 years with my wife i moved there if ireland and the whole communities is built around the rim tied my nine years of living in the city especially around there i've of the as far as the communities a part of the community to have a drink at the rip tied pretty much all my friends i have my wife's friends are people we've met at the rip tied and a lot that is based around the attempt i've never in this

time heard what this woman mentioned the country music and across the street sometimes, i hang with my friend and i feel if the rip tied as a license rejected to 10:00 a.m. a lot of the communities just didn't - the latest is 12 not very often you know, i think the music is at a reasonable level and someone going their they'll control the sound no reason why the neighbors are disturbed i think the loss of license to the rip tied would be a huge loss there is nothing out through to

place that a lot of people don't have anything to do and it is taken place i hope you take into consideration. >> hello, hello i'm dan first an apron and also a perform at the rip tied as far as the musical the live entertainment's was going on until toungsz on sunday's all the performance i'll have i've talked i talked about love playing at the rip tied they come all the way down from sacramento and from oak

home and everybody loves it - it would be detrimental if we couldn't provide that and i wanted to let you guys know i'll keep it brief thanks. >> good evening commissioners my name is rebecca i'm a vp and senior operations manager for a financial institution in the city and lived in san francisco for 26 years came here 17 years old all by myself lived in the sunsetted for the past 168 years i ride public transportation and volunteer for disasters and emergency responses i'm here in

support of last days and rip tied in the earlier years 16 years ago it was nothing to do not really anywhere safe to drink on the walks to the beach we stumbled into the old establishment a scarey space with a lot of drug use and flew a confederate flag new we're excited and we'll meet and talk about what is coming next and they came to build a bar but they really built a community so how do you turn a bar both a community well, it starts with having something for everything bingo you can take our grandmother to or your mother and karaoke when our starbuck's friends come to town or open mic

to let your friends light shine and my dad enjoyed the daytona and night more my know it all brother and music and merman and sam chase just to name a few but the bar does things for the outer communities and have get rid of of illegal activities in the surrounding businesses and they worked with katie tang and her office to revitalizes this block we didn't stop there this is bigger we pay it forward we brought together a lot of people and supplies and food and get it out there quickly were you ada walk and ms walk all say

things the fire was devastating we have a strong communities and folks from all over the nation and world those are good doing good things and other standing in front of you soon the rip tied is hot the sunset is hot right now i ask you give them a role model how you can be a small business and build a community. >> is there any additional public comment? >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. and open up to commissioners, i have one question for staff maybe try to help clarify for me you know typically if we approve a bar like a bar in good standing to 2:00 a.m. closer by the law i'm a little bit confused to recommend to

2:00 a.m. with the conditions 11 on the entertainment permit but that's really the job of your sister agency isn't it. >> so the baristas is not under scrutiny the bar was continuing use with hugs until 2:00 a.m. it is located westbound is 3456 - it was before the entertainment use. >> i want to be clear i feel like maybe approve the bar and allow to not stay open until 2:00 a.m. but then as far as the entertainment permits parts of it that's up to the entertainment commission amplified sound that goes to the

entertainment. >> the entertainment commission requires the permit that's correct they have the ability to condition it and be more restrictive and have a separate process for that so, i mean we have our own land use conditions we can condition it for the or the entertainment commission can be more restrictive. >> question have that ability i want to ask if we're stepping on is toes of the entertainment commission by jumping ahead of them. >> we do it all the time (laughter) i mean, we're aware that the commission finds finding underlying land use is necessary to drive the impacts we certainly have that ability and

exercis exercised. >> that will be a positive events i never go to the end of the world i hope to do this is your sister down the streets okay. that's what came before us. >> the last times we saw you that had to be put on hold because of the fire so that's waiting as soon as we're open and are profitable. >> sure. >> builds on that when we came before you we had the restaurants open until 2:00 a.m. and didn't mean it always goes to 2 amy want to say that to guy and melissa neighbors for 12 years and spoken about everything two people that spoke in opposition we're open to them

and one of the things we were a drag on terryville station we worked with every captain from keith to the presents and i was the vice president of the merchant association for 5 years so we've been community involved. >> thank you so you know no doubt thank you very much no doubt i can see the bar is a cultural asset to basically, not a lot of draw to it especially at night it reminds me of upper market a place burning down initials where so many bars and noise complaints that was like a neighborhoods association besides building and market octavia with sound and buildings the issue i see here is more you

certified - we asked for conditions on the bar so - the door that opens i - would you be open to the door closing. >> us remember the photograph of the door to the property line like a front door and there was a curtain that went in front of it and amends with the rose bud we have both doors and the front windows it create as 5 by 5 entrance for the sound not -

most of letters you see complaints are about bar noise that is unfortunately, we have to ask people to smoke outside not about the music i'll like to say 21 letters of the support 7 days a week to 2:00 a.m. from that block alone. >> is curtains serve a if you were but not certifisound-proof >> i'm talking about a club where you have literally a small hallway with two doors one facing each other and one facing the wall and 1 the street you walk down the hallway no noise

escapes. >> we have the encourage i guess the opening is a fire issue for the two might be hitting people in the face if they open if you have a fire people try to escape. >> let's say the doors open out. >> yeah, they boo both open out. >> the other solutions i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say but i was a person that was a neighbor of a bar who didn't get any sleep it was really rough i couldn't go to work i was derogatooggy we requ scrambler - we firmly believe

that people should have a conversation and have a d b meter our bar - the scram eerie love that i did not know they had. >> talk intolts mike. >> as far as the two doors we have to exits the main room you walk into and the bands there's a curtain and other wall between it i'm thinking about having people exit the sounds will not come out that one room the sound is generated in the main room the other room we have tables

and type of and chairs. >> so on your map on the last page of the submittal the area on the left or right. >> the noise. >> are you looking if terryville side. >> this one right here. >> that's owns is rights. >> so there's a bathroom it is is laid backroom. >> people can go. >> in and out that way where the bands is playing or whatever is going on that door stays closed that room is essentially - >> instead of having two doors open with people smoking that one door there was no doorknob we'll have the exit only so people are not in and out of both doors your ideas of secondary door or the rose bud encourage where the performance

is going we'll be open to any suggestions. >> i'd like to ask the neighbors i mean a curtain on each side is defeating the purpose but put two or three curtains up. >> absolutely and actually across the entire fronts facade so the doors and windows so it will be a wall of curtain. >> how at least as far back so someone can do bother. >> and the encourage was left open someone will close it they're trained to run over and close it. >> now your hours are 10 weekends and 12 on weekends that's what the report said do music portion.

>> i think tuesday until 1 or 1:15 and thursday 1 o'clock and saturdays 12:30 to one and one p.m. and the officer the permitting officer from terryville or less changed the suggestion from 10 to 11:00 p.m. so leona helmsley sunday's, mondays, tuesday and wednesday and - i'd like to ask one the neighbors can you give us your opinion please come up and speak. >> this morning and his recommendations for the entertainment commission the documents i've provided you he said that once we have that

hearing with this entertainment commission he might be likely depend on what at neighbors say about the situation but his recommendation is with the entertainment commission when i talked to him this morning as 10 o'clock during the weekend days. >> can you hand that in. >> sure. >> so i'll be supportive of we've done this before a staging you start a little bit earlier and as they become doesn't neighbors they can expand with the terminology and the planning code is like you demonstrate that you deserve it i'll be open to starting - if facts presented the use had been operated to minimize that with respect to crowd control would

you be interested to open up in the future and do the curtain and scram believbler - >> please come and speak into the mike. >> i've lived there over 25 years the same address and every single night gambling would with the bingo is a problem and live entertainment is a problem karaoke has been a problem. >> given the scrambler and is encourages what is your thoughts does that mitigate what out of

experienced. >> the experienced i've had is the same thing they're putting in automobiles that's sounds reversal if you make a sound it is in audible they reverse the frequencies and not audible to anyone outside the car manufacturers. >> so you're saying on that ground limiter and then silence. >> right. >> i don't know that technology exists that's better. >> off i'm not aware i've been working quite a few of the years. >> a limited silencer it is called. >> that make sense out of the 7 are 8 letters of opposition month about a bar noise people talking outside

really we try to police it i live above a bar in the mission i i know what it is like it is usually the entertainment is the problem and also at the beach right on the beach a popular drinking area the people we turn away are the ones we get blamed for . >> two points before we pass the baton. >> men do it the other thing we found on the upper market you talk about or can't tag a patron and say they're the problem it could be anybody i saw the police officer log a person calls and all kinds of other things whether or not a disturbing person comes from a bar.

>> one other question there was another bar on valencia. >> a lot of bars are having a problem with cans during the day and it was really hard to find recycleers that come during the day the bars need to have that happen for neighbors. >> you'll not put your bottles out next the next day and keep in mind we want to. >> that's the nail in the cove i think at 2:15. >> commissioner antonini that was in regards to the chapel i was thinking a few years back

but cammy blackstone and others there was a live spot west of twin peaks and a vocalist - you talk about having a mature crowd that's even a more mature crowd so mia anyway that's as good idea i'm receiver to every a most motion to allow the entertainment's until 20th century 2 o'clock or as suggested by commissioner vice president richards and a motion that allows the 11 and one for the first 6 months and then have a looking at look at it is and come back to us or an informational report if things are okay. we'll go to the latter time i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say

but i think that certainly a gathering place a place that people like and i know the outer sunset is a lot more active not the most active part of town so anything you can find something going on including a meal. >> commissioner hillis. >> so maybe a couple of questions for mr. perry we grapple with those obviously that is asz an important venue it is good do have live entertainment but neighborhood across the street from in a commercial on ones and residential on the other some untested with the new potential suggestions are good how does that work we set an upper limit; right? with what can be lout and the entertainment commission will hear this next.

>> that's correct that's my understanding. >> what happens the entertainment commission goes through the same process they can't say expand beyond what we suggest. >> right a public hearing and standards they apply to the permits anyway they can further limit the hours if necessary. >> and can we take actions to further the limits likes one a.m. and have a look back negative impact a year and neighborhoods are unsatisfied and what happens. >> you have the abilities as any conditional use to have that come back into impose modifications and revoke or recondition we've done that for a trigger. >> what used to be both what i'm talking about. >> yeah. for upper market we

imposed the rules and - so the commission imposed more stricter requirements. >> and then for the question for the project sponsor i am not you're asking for 2:00 a.m. but a couple of people you've indicated most nights you don't go to 2:00 a.m. and that's the block of time we set up and puts the postings if you go past 11 say 2:00 a.m. that's what we had on our postings this is misleading everyone has to be cleared out by 2:00 a.m. and if people are trickling out around 12:30 are 1 o'clock the dj a playing for sons until one 15

the one thing you're correct when you set the hours at the can't be capacity upon so that's what we thought start with the greatest the largest chunk of times and make sure obviously give us other hours and we'll endorse if they'll pull our permits if we are bad neighbors that gives us leeway but in the last 12 years everyone is out by bar time it is one 45 so the 2:00 a.m. a misleading. >> so what is your plan for amplified music kind of mondays or sunday through wednesday, thursday, and friday and saturday.

>> it will be about maybe midnight mondays open mike maybe 12 o'clock or 12:30 and karaoke and wednesday to quiets it is movie night and karaoking it's there the rest of the week 2:00 a.m. or 1:30 because what the complaints are mainly about bar noise and - it's not - the complaints with not about the music but some of the opposition letters were almost endorsements of us we don't mind the music but obviously people watching us a authorities of fingers over us that will have contact and the

married accompany across the street or anyone else that's the beauties you the communication will be open. >> rights. okay thank you. >> so i think germany on the entertainment commission has more expertise with issues with neighborhood across the street and in kind of our issue is where we set that up or limit figure things go well and it works somewhat relying on the entertainment commission to you know reduce that necessary intact we don't have is computers that the entertainment commission i think we get stuck we both have some jurisdiction but they seem to have more of the expertise so you know i'm willing to go favorites than staff recommends on hours with

encouragement that the entertainment commission take action i don't know if we impose those or is entertainment commission on doorways there is perhaps the abilities the west side to put in an additional door i've seen that. >> having an exit only and it is cuts we can do an exterior door but month doors is out of the east side where the performances when that door opens having a rose bud curtain would help a lot because entertainment is not on this is west side. >> the entertainment is on the questioning isn't it. >> front of the fireplace. >> i got my north and west as you walk in on the right or

left. >> on the left-hand side but in the two rooms used to be a bait shop. >> what was the name the bait shop. >> you really want me to tell you the bar was called the whore house and the masters baits shop 41 through 55 a couple of brothers and characters and it is kind of called the neighborhood. >> i'm very glad you asked thank you. >> (laughter). a bit of history but were before that i'll ask the chair recognition me after commissioner johnson >> well, actually i want to hear your motion i'm really getting at i'd like to make a

motion that didn't require having to go back to the commission unless there's a problem and . >> permissive - great want to clear this with the zoning administrator with the entertainment commission we're allowed to impose conditions they monitor the conditions for noise and things measuring equipment and all that the stuff that compliments us we're making a land use condition that is

investorable. >> tare better suited they deal with the breads and butter and have staff and we say an excellence working relationship but they're also any address the sounds like issues so, i mean if the goal the commissioners want to give the entertainment commission more a latitude i'll suggest so forth the restrictions on the hours when you leaving the issue of the door pending it is up to entertainment commission to find the best solution. >> so - and can i make a followup would it be appropriate for us to encourage the the tragically to look at certain measures. >> we see our responded and provide any comments you'd like us to talk about and encourage

door covers. >> i make a motion to allow the hours ever amplified music to midnight on week days monday, tuesday, wednesday thursday and friday and saturday to two. >> second. >> ask the entertainment commission it investigate sounds like sound and the silenceer possible. >> i want to make sure the project sponsor is clear. >> would e what did you say monday, tuesday, and wednesday. >> i actually said sunday, monday, tuesday, wednesday friday saturday.

>> this is kind of a designation bar and doing everything we can go we hoping for a little bit longer just to we can pull it back in this is a land use issue we think one a.m. across the board or something like that. >> the question for mr. sanchez it operationally is under the small business if we cack and asks. 1 o'clock on another night of week can we run it through >> entertainment is not one of the uses. >> it is set in stone forever it is easier to pull back and possible to expand. >> the process to pull back if you're effected you go crazy gits you have sunday's or monday to an additional or thunders

thursday thursday, friday saturdays until 2. >> i'm okay is seconder. >> i want to ask for the look back it is important. >> yes. >> and . >> six months and one year. >> in the form of a memo and in the form of a presentation i don't think we need to go through a - why not determine if we have something egregious. >> in the form of a memo unless egregious. >> we have a underlying bar use you're not looking at those hours. >> can those hours be amended

for new year's new years eve. >> (multiple voices). >> i'll be declined to make that 7 days a week it is up to the entertainment commission to set on special million dollars or sounds like check them. >> is the entertainment commission add additional dazed to the live entertainment. >> they've if you say until 2:00 a.m. everyday then they could be more reflective and say at certain days of week but on holidays xyz and they constance be less reflective than you authorized. >> the holidays is an easy one new year's eve and halloween

this is a enforceable on two other days of the year. >> my on this concerns this is a land use the entitlement permit is daunt. >> you can come back and ask for more. >> i can. >> no, we can have the same hearing in a year if you like and okay. >> i demonstrate that everything is okay as you great, great that's what we want and also have the entertainment commission can report. >> that's part of look back. >> i guess the last thing thursday through. >> saturday until 2 and the other days until midnight and the two holidays new year's eve. >> commissioner antonini. >> i need a classification i understand what the motion is

now commissioner johnson i don't know. i don't agree with the approach the entertainment commission has more sort of knowledge and background they do this move on in terms of understanding how to sort of control for the - and we're ask them to. >> right but i'll propose i'd like to to see our conditional use is more permissible and in their professional opinion what the - they could be more restrictive for example, they may say the types of noise you'll be able to mean your noise shouldn't go past mintdz the entertainment commission should do that. >> as far asolidays if we have a difficult time this

whether chinese new year's eve or a successor tournament and with commissioner johnson being less restrictive and letting the entertainment commission do their job as far as this. >> commissioner antonini. >> yes. seeing on the boos of what commissioner hillis and commissioner johnson said the maker of motion architectural to is making it 12:30 on sunday's through webls and 2 o'clock on thursday and friday for leeway to clear things outs. >> i said would. >> motion with two holidays loitsdz to be go 2 o'clock. >> that's great. >> commissioner vice president richards your you modifying our

amending your motion to 2:30. >> there is a motion that has been seconded to approve that matter with conditions as amended. >> can you talk about the amendments. >> i was about to. >> sorry. >> to limit the hours of entertainment's until 2:30 on monday through wednesday and to consider the sundays mile-an-hour measure with sound curtains and scrambler and cut off only halloween as well. so sorry i thoughts we in terms of b.c. being more permissible letting the entertainment commission setting the holidays i'm confused

>> i didn't hear it definitely. >> if it worked for cafe we asked them what holidays not not a problem in literally 10 years. >> okay. >> holidays is not an issue halloween and the city is going crazy. >> truly our experiences if you have a crowd. >> the issue we had to notify the neighbors and everybody knew that's the reason. >> yeah. i know it's a long day we can be open to come back and open to one-on-11 o'clock or 2 o'clock and keeping the dj going for another hour and a

half is a big deal. >> okay call the question well, now i'm a little bit confused. >> what are the holidays. >> haggle and new year's campaign commissioner antonini commissioner johnson commissioner hillis commissioner moore excuse me. commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong no so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 4 to one with commissioner president fong voting against commissioners that places us under our discretionary review 15 ab have been continued item 16 the zoning administrator will consider the variance discretionary review.

>> good evening, commissioners claudia planning department staff the the item before you is a public initiated request for conditional use of a building permit for the project on anymore place the project is located on the east side within the rh3 zoning district and the height and bulk the building is a private garage that covers the lot and surroundings properties are 32 building immediately north on larkin street and 2 story single-family dwelling to the right and uses in the immediate vintage from 1 to 3 structures scattered the project will sequester the garage into a single-family dwelling by constructing 3 stories and

converting and 39 feet to the participate and setback by 15 feet at the second floor and 21 at the third floor it is a variance from planning code for rear yard per section the property subject is required to maintain a rear yard of 24 feet 10 inches the proposal will encroach into the rear yard by 9 feet at the second floor and 3 feet at the third floor the variance hearing was he would say on january 2016 and the zoning administrator after hearing public comment made his decision until closer of the 311 notification as the discretionary review was filed the zoning administrator has deferred his decision pending the outcome of this dr hearing

and subtract the project is revised to incorporate the recommendations from the residential design guidelines there is restrictions that include a 5 foot setback the entirety of the roof deck and for the second floor and third floor it provide a 3 foot setback to date the department has 3 letters of support and 7 letters of opposition the project was dred by the recipes that expressed multiple concerns with the mass and bulk and the negative impact for the rear yards the department recommended the commission take dr and approve with modifications percentages that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions should you have any. >> dr requester please.

hello i'm not julia my sister and i own the property next to outreach from the variance hearing and couldn't reach a resolution your planner asked them to correct the plan it is still incorrect based on your code to the red line at 36 feet and the average get corrected but because of the adjacent building wall not shown the residential design team didn't understand the impact we have major impacts and the latest

revisions are not enough i said in my e-mail a repeated misrepresentation those renderings here called gum one and two what was given to us if you see here our yard circled in green are different the gum one is a situation they submitted to planning and show a forced window that didn't match with the windows here on the gum two plan it is called revisions they show the 3 by 10 cuts out they said they gave us we never requested and the cut out in the floor plan for the variance hearing at the griffin

accident project when i filed any drs you know the deceive plans they'll exclaim r ross are not competent but the repeated errors are to their benefits we have exceptional or extraordinary the resolution that was passed in 2000 was related to ceqa this airline shows the trama of larkin street with the two annexed and in blue the permit to add a level and it 2 more places and this is the annex of life-saving i found out the family that owns this met with

one of our parentheses to talk about that i wanted to point out on 3 see or so a cumulative impact of 40 feet high buildings surrounding us more troushl with the supporting fought from the mayor ed lee had an to ben mirrors they talk about how they can supports to develop the garages and in particular i'll show you this queer allowed but the precedence we've set this is to manipulate the developments and the language they'll flip the property versus good neighbors and section 305 code when the variance is granted 5 criterias and i see 23 are not mets for criteria 3 it would be

at the cost of negatively effecting our property the established character of homes in the narrow alley with 20 by 60 parcels they're all second floor yet this is way difference in density the project is not compatible with the neighborhood and didn't fit the character the contrary four talks about this here as you can see the impact to us a retired it blocks the sunlight and this folks told us that is a major impact for contrary 5 they never honlt

effect impacts not with integrity the project eliminations mid block open space this was for the neighbors builds before larkin street in summary can't say grant a variance. >> ma'am, your time is up. >> you'll have a two minute rebuttal. >> okay. thank you. >> speakers in support of dr request requester. >> hi my name is erica i live on larkin street this is my landlord i'll read a letter on her beautiful

my name is lilly live on larkin for over 40 years i have so many wonderful memories any families slbdz many memories i never thought i'll write a letter to defend my sunlight i'm here to let you know how unhappy to know the building behind any home wants to have a third floor and plain clothes the sunlight i noticed i'm minimal to others but having sunlight is special to me i never thoughts i'd like have to give it up or it be a luxury i can't say put into word how disappointed having sunlight it is price alsoless and accumulated to living with that

i don't want my home to live under a shadow please, please take my thoughts and while the neighborhoods build their roof deck. >> i've been a resident and if this project goes through i'll have inform sunlight i work out of any home 3 days a week this effects the back of my home i don't turn on any light but if this building goes up it will immediately impact me, please consider that. >> other speakers in support of dr requester >> there were a total of 7 letters so 5 more letters people couldn't come today can we get

somewhere else to read them. >> no. >> anything else for the dr requester. >> okay project sponsor and good afternoon, commissioners john with reuben, junius & rose on behalf of the project sponsors the project before you created a single-family and eliminates a non-accessory garage it occupies the lot and serves as a audible storage the project proposes a two-story conversion with the riders parking and go a family room on the ground floor and on the second floor and a kitchen and combined living area on the third floor and roof decks on the second floor and third floor floor we had a small substandard

lot if you take into account the floor plans in particular the the bedrooms on the second floor they're not big, in fact, i can barely get a bed in there but not siege this that is sensitive to the neighboring building of story apartment building is in support the dr requesters own a building to the south the two new stories will extend beyond 12 and 6 feet and per the residential design guidelines they've incorporated a 5 foot's setback for the 5 new stories essentially the same depth starting at the depth of that building feats on a lot that is only 20 feet lot wide it is

substandard no property lines windows no opposing windows or so things like that we've setback the proposed roof deck in order to approve privacy to the neighbors and their rear yard and also made all the participates transplants reducing the effect as much as possible since the project is north of the dresser building very little shadow impact we've done a study if i can get the overhead the only shading during the summer most june through august and only for a short time in the evening you see the top one at blue here's our project the dr requesters home and here's the building been approved to the

south of the dr requesters home the blue areas new shading in the morning shades the roof a little bit of back wall and nothing else and in the evening shading often the roof and at the whether or not of the lots trees right now again north of this building so the shading is a minimal there's a variance required if the rear yard requirement the codes requires a 4 percent rear yard only a 50 percent rear lot to 33 feet we provide a 1 foot rear yard and provide a healthy 5 foot sixth district forego extension beyond the rear yard line again with the designed building with modest rooms the project is consistent with the general character of the neighborhoods and other thing

for the proerj the salmon and pink-colored with three story and the hatched building is us the blue building the dr requester all the oxen's buildings on larkin street have third floor much of them 2 stories over garage and not out of scale and character for the neighborhoods done a lot of outreach dozens and dozens of calls and meetings with a number of neighbors looking at the diagram we've got the support of those properties are a star on them so several properties in supportive project dr requester was the original known opponents we knew about leading up to the hearing and feminist trying to find a resolution like the second dr

requester with - it is unfortunate they've not been successful we feel confident this has significant setbacks to minimize the impacts to the dr requester we respectfully ask your support. >> dr requesters sports supporters. >> not seeing any, dr requester a 2 minute rebuttal. >> good evening ladies and gentlemen, of the planning commission at the beginning of may wri78 referred outreach to some people the mirrors log didn't show outreach to the neighbors impacted 7 letters were submitted it is unclear what the mirrors tensions to develop two more, llc is mid january to the last meeting

onramp march 2016 the reason change each time this leaves me to think that ben mirror of mirror, llc is spearheading this project the mirrors mentioned many times they'll be good neighbors at the last meeting he mentioned my concerns their property value increase and our decrease ben mirrors said i can't do anything about that you'll make money when you sell our property we have no intention of selling our home in 2013 i lent any sympathetic areas to the previous owners she and her husband time to add into their property with a approved - in her e-mail to benefiting mirrors

a good time to develop is she a developer too we remembering or or not ask your support i respectfully request that the planning commission to please exercise the discretionary powers to protect the public interest otherwise they'll have success at their expense of the poor neighbors and project sponsor a two minute rebuttal. >> i don't there is much more to add it is straddlers but andy would like to come up and speak in light felt comments. >> hello commission i'm andrew's the project owner i want to speak is character questions are obviously in disputes to take a step back my

goal with that project studio to create a modest home for my future family i'm getting married in a few months there will be a perfect project not intention of flipping my full intention to live there i want to notes we've taken the zoning administrator's recommendations and made every effort t work with our neighbors in addition to 311 notification and is preapplication we changed over e-mails and 8 in person meeting and text message so we've tried to work hard to understand our neighbors and address them the best we can as a result of that work we have project support from 3 neighbors on larkin that shares a property line and 18

workplace. >> okay public comment is closed. commissioner antonini. >> this is a good project kwafs and garage and turns it into a home and as commented by staff had we had the dr reformed legislation that dr would not have been abrogate to the commission and to address the points that were brought up but is dr requester whose home to the south and east so the impacts of the sun are minimal the sun comes from those two directs and direct light they talked about the trees their amateur and still going to get east west and southwest will not be affected according to the

center of report the project sponsor has 3 sets of revised plans that's a lot of notice and there's a 15 foot rear yard it is a modification, you know, so that's up for the zoning administrator but i think that is about as good you'll do in a small area in the building to their net income west is a larger apartment building so which is much taller i think everything else seems to be done pretty well, a 13 i guess staff is asked a couple of things maybe i'll ask the staff project sponsor would their setback back the deck and second floor and third floor by 5 feet is that

what we asked. >> that's recommendation. >> we'll still take the dr the report didn't have those items in we take dr. >> take dr with the proposed administration and commissioner moore. >> i want to take a slightly different take that comes if the fact that in the small-scale development patterns of the side of nob hill and russian hill we deal with substandard lots of 20 by 60 and 25 by 60 given the pattern it exists is mostly two stories is creates unusual circumstances relative to acknowledge of buildings with each when one that takes on a more contemporary architecture

that is fine if well done but bulk out with two cars and roof deck and everything else including no acknowledgment of the existing rear yard i'm have a hard time and i'll tell you why assume the building the addition of the roof deck assessable from the second floor to the from the third floor to the roof i think it typical for the neighborhoods given the fact they have large terraces and balconies is influencing i could possibly support in a neighborhood in a small street that is quiets having a barbecue and things as this is like an outdoor room of significant size not to discuss but go adopt to

the second floor the rear terrace is large and if one starts pulling back if i understand the lady saying that i'm wondering in 5 feet showcase enough or go further particularly the terrace extends over the property and why on one does it acknowledges a notch a lightwell it is still goes over the lightwell to the width felt prompt you think this is awkward with wall i'm prepared to entertainer to entertain to -

i'm not opposed to those in the alleys but they have to fits with the aggressive roof deck on the third floor this is not working for me. >> commissioner antonini. >> see i'm willing to accept some of the suggestions by proposed by commissioner moore i think they've got a couple of tests to the roof deck above that it not necessary i need a little bit of clarification we talked about the setbacks on the south side of an is second floor and third floor i'm not sure is that what you're talking about a furthers setback think is terrace is that what yours talking about. >> i've not said what needs to be done i'm trying to have the

other commissioners look at, this and see that two aggressive i've not - not making design adjustment but the building is two aggressive i understand what you're trying to do we still have great abilities the design is fine it needs tweaking and more sensitivity on where it meets is be neighbors and again, the roof decks is completely a no for me. >> are you saying a let that didn't match or not far enough down. >> there a let that matches but does thinks why a balcony pops out and returns back to the property line on the second floor that is what - are you following. >> no. >> drawing 8 one point zero in

the center of the drawing the second floor plan look at the deck of the bedroom you see the building respect the lightwells but then you come onto the deck and deck pops outs to the rights for a bedroom deck that is really somewhat not really negative impact characterization and then also don't thinks why this deck has to go all the way to the rear the property should holds back and create a lighter more ac yatdz massing there there's a larger building joining with east and west sun coming from both sides and effecting the smaller scale that's the issue of it. >> commissioner hillis.

>> so i don't this is a huge house, you know, some of the bedrooms are fairly small i think that modest and well done i agree with commissioner moore's comments on the server deck it jets out it should respect that property line by 5 feet off the side maybe. >> can you clarify that. >> that's above the media room. >> just to be clear you walk out the rear door to the second floor deck that little white area not a deck just the roof of the existing building and so are you suggesting pulling the deck off the south propelling. >> that's a reason to pull the building back 5 feet. >> so the ground floor is

still built to the property line but not extends the property line. >> that same thing setbacks your offering. >> yeah. is project sponsor is open to that. >> that to me the change to be maids but to the zoning administrator his thousand on the general prong that is a more of a conditional use but i'll be supportive of that deck. >> you want to and go the roof deck on top of everyone else is not what we do in the changing neighborhoods to sit on top of everyone else's is a quiet neighborhoods and then you have the barbecue your everything else. >> i generally agree with roof deck but in this case not causing much of a problem up

against the larger 6 story building on the one side and setback sixth 5 feet anywhere else so we have resorted to moving those roof deck but no problem and held begin the larger building to me i am more clients on the second floor deck. >> seems in and of itself it is whether we can a living room that's where my objections this is a place to step out all the instruments iconicly fulfill furnished that barbecue didn't work. >> i want to share my thoughts

on the rear yard this is 20s by 60 feet a variance is supportive of that lot the hearing was apparent the owners have not met and resolved everything else and hearing the commission concerns of the roof deck and rear yard deck i have more concerns of the deck on the second floor saetsz from a two bedrooms not a common area but were nice luxury to have but not a luxury for open space i'll see the roof deck is more useful ♪ building absence you're asking for to have the kitchen and living level on the top story a small deck on top of that will be the functional rear yards the property rather than on the deck

in terms of impacts on the neighbors the deck from the server from the masters will have an impact on the adjacent buildings even though one - that's going to have more impact on the just a few minutes properties in the rear so if the commission is clients to make changes to the deck i'll move to striking that second floor deck i think is roof deck >> my thoughts i think this puts as we've heard public comment 7 hours ago people living outside excuse me. trying to integrate the outside with the inside i mean, i gits my house is like that. >> we want to create and deck that flows if the inside the outside and use the yard in a way things are moving i think the residential design

guidelines if they need to be tweaked probably should respected there are things to open up 6 and 10 foot wall don't want to feel i'm in a box the roof decks is okay. it is not a setback the bedroom is more problematic i want to see how that is used you want to sites in your pajamas and reads a book and mr. sanchez to getting into the weeds of the second floor deck and leave the roof deck. >> commissioner moore. >> i will be prepared to see that this holdings the eliminating the deck on the bedroom level in exchange for the roof deck is acceptable i believe there is a connection between is cooking and kitchen and then wondering in the kingdom is there why need a

banish how can is this be for people if the taller building there is a stealing difficult thing to deal with in san francisco ♪ area i'm not far away the winds and if you it gets o profess we want to commend hang this out here there's high winds and barbecues and the fwrepts attitude towards roof deck i know they have to have in kind but the smell intrusion was everything around is you quite quite difficult understanding i'll let it go i can't support off building with the entire second floor balcony big deal cut out and leaving the roof

deck i making make to motion to take dr and approve the project with the conditions described in the records >> second. >> that's with the modifications. >> or the second floor deck. >> entire. >> in its entire outlet and commissioner antonini. >> yeah. to clarify so we're taking dr increasing the south side by on the second floor and third floor staff's recommendation and then we are eliminating is deck on the second floor. >> in the rear. >> otherwise as presented. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you. i can be poster of that motion although i'll note when we had pats hearings talking about decks normally

about intrusion to others people's places and not eliminating the second floor roof deck gets us those it is an interesting concept agree with commissioner vice president richards i don't know what the usefulness not up for us to zit i want to make sure we are not eliminating second floor deck just to feel we're getting something because i feel like the roof deck more in line with the objections i've heard earlier and that is staying and commissioner vice president richards and the question would a juliette balcony deck be okay and step out not live out there commissioner moore what are your thoughts. >> commissioner johnson

starred to rattle any brain a big part of what i normally insist on the only comment made me reconsider the roof deck what zoning administrator mr. sanchez the relation of the kitchen floor makes it so polk to use other than in 0 the buildings the roof decks as an area question spends part of times eating an interesting ideas it is not an ideal solution you but i'm not preempted given the con trained area condition of the 60 feet and the roof decks to give them another barrage for me asking for too much. >> commissioner hillis. >> just a comment if i barbecue in my neighborhoods my neighbors banish he like a good

hamburger but i i get it the parts of second floor connect is a bit odd especially the way it is configured but odd to have nothing the bedroom there kind of looking at on top of the first floor i suggest kind of a deck the size and scale what is above on the third floor coming out of the bedroom on the third floor second and coming out of second floor i agree with commissioner johnson you know doing things just to do them is one thing not casings harm the deck the scale of the third floor deck off the second floor is 4 . >> too two where in relation

and 7 by 15. >> commissioner moore no, i was done. >> commissioners my only comment the existing roof on the building is a flats roof no parapet up tattoos prelz trigger the firewall want to consider a deck at the lowest second floor level setback with the firewall is not riders to be setback. >> setbacks on the just a few minutes tattoos apartment building. >> on both sides. >> i'll say setbacks 5 feet on the dr requesters see that same footprint against the apartment building setbacks 57 feats. >> it's level at the same depths as the apartment be building it moves i don't understand that so the firewall along the property line that's my main concern to have a deck

it the minimal projection maybe 3 feet but setback if the side property line not require firewalls on the south side and whatever it requires open is per speaker unless otherwise established by the presiding officer of the meeting. not riders parapet maybe the pardon can talk about that thank you. >> 3 feet a single-family dwelling. >> so 5 feet on the south side so the question - >> the building wall the apartment building there. >> it looks like this is pretty at this level pretty - about a foot from the adjacent not up against the side wall i'm dan webster the architect you're correct the way the deck is

designed a fire parapet where right now that roof didn't have that part time if the deck goes beyond the masters bedroom you'll need a firewall you'll need one on the rights side but ohio so setback and what prestigious would the commission like. >> project 3 feet from the south side and - >> how deep. >> 3 feet. >> you're suggesting pinching is. >> south side and will match the setback if the per speaker unless otherwise established by the presiding officer of the meeting. not triggering the firewall to the north and then project per depth of 3 feet and not going to be much area but.

>> it stance. >> right. >> co-sponsor were you able to get that. >> someone draw for me what you mean i hear all the dimensions. >> if we're looking to replicate the deputy of t the d- considering the additional 3 footed sbtsz on the north side we're looking for the same depth as the second floor above. >> can we get the overhead thank you. >> yep.

>> so that's pinched in at 3 feet. >> so i think what the commission was suggesting that was projecting 3 feet from the wall of the master bedroom not setback 3 feet from the property line; correct but the project sponsor is requesting 6 feet so. >> you're talking about like a juliette balcony step out and have the abilities to step out 3 feet instead 6. >> 12 by 3. >> will you draw and accept that that is like a little bump out please bring that up again. >> hatch in the area. >> that would be great i see what you mean exactly correct. >> the difference i have 6

feet. >> i can port that it is in the intent of the bigger move. >> if i'm the berserker. >> actually commissioner vice president richards you were the seconder. >> thank you one question i have your extend out 3 feet with that something jetting over our head the project sponsor said the deck coagulation 6 feet. >> the deck above is 67 feet deep but not project it - >> i support exactly what we're doing. >> okay there is a motion that has been seconded to take deferring dr with staff moichgsz in reducing the second floor roof deck pinching that 5 feet on the south and limiting to 3 feet

commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and . >> think variance close did passersby as in the planning commission decision and that's all. >> thank you zoning administrator commissioners that place us under our final dr item number 17 for case russel street a discretionary review and the dr requester will receive a 10 minute presentation. >> good evening commissioner president fong and members of the commission i'm nick with the department staff the item before you represents go separate be

initiate requests for review the building application on russel with an rh2 zones to an additional one story habitable space the project has an sxeven we molds adding square feet for a total of 2000 plus square feet obgyn space the project dmudz the following lowering a floor plat and adding a balcony and in phil the existing paths and phil two lightwells and reconfiguring a third to align with the just a few minutes property an russel street and adding a two car stacked parking and a new curve cuts and raising the see to

match the neighbors of russel street and replacing a roof deck project is located within is southern portion of russian hill within an established arrangement with low to mediums density housing the buildings on the block range from 1 to 4 stories it is a high concentration of building with characteristics form and - there were two dr requesters filed open this building permits requester of upper market and dr requester number is located west abutting the subject property

and dr requester number one it is in the respectfully the scale and too large out of scale and incompatible with the surrounding building and not consistent with the neighborhood determining two with the mass and height is inconsistent with the residential design guidelines the project introduces loss of light and air and privacy also known as and a sense of proportionality - this is on russel street an january 21st the residential design team or rdt reviewed the application for discretionary review the rdt didn't find exceptional or extraordinary circumstances and found it met

the contrary the residential design guidelines the rdt reiterated the scale and massing the proposed project was compatible with the scale and massing of building along the street with architecture expressions from broader neighborhood projection and retained found it within the foot and providing mid block open space and moreover the rdt found advertised not extreme newcomers works of two stories and three story on the block face to date the department has devil letters of support 11 are in our pathway and other came late the nature the letters speak for the general supports for the project whereas the nature of the opposition is the ininpatient avenue mass and bulk

given along russel street two weeks ago the department got an e-mail requesting you look at the h.r. e on russel street the letter state's evidence to suggest the individuals from edmond a resident of russel and substantially tim kelly performed two other inspectors and found that the gentleman not an russel street effected and as well as the ceqa determination as prepared by the department a memo sent to the planning commission through the affairs office this week regarding this matter and additionally the department got

an e-mail requesting the planning commission reexam the charges and as it pertains to planning code 317 and reviewing the submittal information the departments reaffirmed the demolition and analyzed by the project sponsor and reviewed by the departments the supplemental drawings not take dr and approve this project as presents that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> okay determining number dr requester number one our members of the commission my brother john and i are a third generation san franciscans own and operate our home for 18

years my brother is an artist. >> sfgov go to the cam and we worked to build connects with our neighbors our concerns scale and design the original proposal for rufls is out of scale examiner into clusters a buildings within is 1906 san francisco earthquake we logged serious concerns no consideration and left their plans unchanged it was a history district and planning identified is that start the project all the lots are substandard and substantially many homes are smaller and lower the sponsors choose to replace the building with a wlaerg contemporary

structure only at irregularly the rdt retained did they make surface chaengz only enough to obtain approval this resonates this is a historic conservation district and whatever is build tap graph the 18 buildings on russel and some are third floor and 8 are much spectacular that and groepdz with that buildings those the typography of the block with the new structure will not respective the residential design guidelines we urge the commission to go consider the scale felt building back the building our planner said rdt made no consideration and in light of the new structure and is proximities think union will impact the privacy and impact the 3 homes

our go rear walls on the property lines on the sedates the closeness have added stories the ointment the new stories will cause an innovation of our privacy the loss of light if approved it will be primary glass with conceives windows and a glass balconys over built areas will encroach on our areas planning the architect and the residents agree that is a motion and a second open space and the heights and nearness of deck and balconies will bring the residents within 12 feet of our homes their sterilize and need to be corrected one alignment the education to single story

the existing story is not accurately described the existing section plan shows the basements to have a finished room and extending that will add a habitable space and keep it in scale it is xashdz to other structures in the immediate block this project is not compatible the first to third floor over basement think russel two remove the car stacking this entire building is out of scale to accommodate this in the parking it provides for two cars roving that lowers the project and bring the building into scale 3 remove the balcony to within 12 feet it is insensitive and violates our privacy four if

it remains 3 stories over basements setback the second floor and 3 setback the third floor by an additional las vegas those substance eyes and ears and the heights will ballads the proposed height with the existing use and finally we've demoed some of the plans are wrong we wish to protest the submission of new material wasn't a reasonable period of review and continue with presentations but you continue our decision until we confirm this is not a demolitions the unique swikz or circumstances rare the sixth to the community and russian hill as a whole for the commission to look at this project thank you. >> dr requester number 2. >> turn the proerj on and please leave it on tuesday.

>> good evening i'm sorry trashing i live on rulings street i've been for 6 years and san franciscan for 16 year ago for the most part i'm omitted to the project sponsor to refinish his home what i'm opposed to, however, the overall aggressive and baby boomer plan russel is a single lane additional street lights all were builds after the earthquake the down slope project is not alternated the nature the historic conservation street this project is in the compatible with the additional and the retained retained asks for a reduction of this is an informational item and the sponsors are refused to alternative the project and this

is the largest an tall itself this or this on this is block it is a character by sub stated lot this is a building that will be a building and one-half story taller and resulting in a greater streetscape in others streetscapes in the city the rdt requested the sponsors reduce the garage level to lower the height a scale of the building as you can see the property is out of proportion go with the extensive stacking mechanism and the mechanism we are were eliminated reduce the height of building by three or four feet it is unclear in the transit rich area of the city and nevertheless, the sponsors can have a two car garage or

have a parking elevators the starker is concerning it is abutting the living area of my property the pump has over 80 decimals it is for - the cycle considerably longer than i'm concerned with the viebsz and the cars it sits on the mechanism with the property line will damage my hundreds of dollars years old home they've - and they could still maintain two car with a subterranean parking elevator flex the project proposes a smaller alleviate than the current e-mail from the project sponsors architect go it was starting 6 feet a lot of the lightwells the

lightwell is equivocating provides significant light to my lower level and, in fact, the design it to facilitate light to the lower floor and moving it to an alignments will accuse a reduction in light amplified by the lightwells from the ground well up to well above the given my windows any windows will be a blank equal and the lightwell didn't consortium 0 residential design guidelines that show an off deck matching lightwells respectfully the lightwells will lose little square footage but my home as a reduction in lights finally we want to commend end by pointing out this is a difficult project to review because as of this prolonger the plans we many were incomplete and accurate the roof plan was wrong in windows overlays

showing the lightwells and windows the counts were wrong in drawings that back up this and the height of the adjacent buildings are wrong no foundation is to order a calculation and no ground floor structures shown and the height of that space has been changed in of feet to 7 foot a permissible level the rear elevation is a flat roof we do tell those to the zoning administrator earlier and have not received a rely when basic information is not received as of the morning of dr requester hearing we're not able to make a decision on that i very much appreciate thank you for your time and consideration thank you very much.

>> okay asking for speakers in support of dr requesters cards. >> are those all for the dr requester. >> (calling names) let me call other names (calling names). >> can i please have the overhead on and stay on for the remainder of the other speakers i'm lillian my gather purchased our family home on union street

over 68 years ago we're behind russel my father said he purchased his home for the grandchildren grandchildren and shared the the neighbors are concerned about the proposed project we've been deciding ways to improve for the benefits of the sponsor wants did diminish our quality of life on russel ever union street for the most part should be compatible with other building in the historic conservation district in scale, massing and materials and details both in front of and rear even a non-historic district needs to be compatible and second it should minimize the loss of loyalty open russel and union street

this neighborhoods is a potential historic conservation district go is well documented in the planning codes categorical exception this is has not been adopt busy want to insure the addition is compatible in sail scale and proportion and light and air are and the for the reputations of rear massing last week of rear balcony and is expansion of the lightwell our russian hill around is that in the historic conservation dpishdz by the rich literary jack wrote while living on russel street noted edmond owned russel for over thirty years today russel street is much like it was a century ago the right-of-way is thirty feet

but only 18 feet widest this reminds us of cable car and only 8 buildings out of 18 on those block is off-street parking and the average height of the homes is less than 23 feet to the people light and air are the utmost port we want to improve the proposed project for my grandchildren's grandchildren to enjoy too thank you very much. >> commissioners good evening my name is nick for 10 years i lived is matt on union street and now at jackson street i'm speaking against this on account of the planned height this will ruin the elements as

you can see the immediate adjacent buildings are - the average height is 22 feet the proposed building is 44 feet tall in most streets will not think meaningful but as identified as a historic district a block that abuts are built up to the rear property lines this makes a difference this is the fronts on the block as you can see the proposition of the building sticks out like a sore thump it is don't at all because of stacker and lowered to three or four feet both the

height and proorpgs lob recommend as you can see they thought the proposition and height residential design off the sponsor and staffer may tell you the plans have chances go as you can see the height of the building 34 feet to the top of the roof and it is now 33 feats and the front facade prormgsz have not changed the sponsors can lower the heights among them further into the ground or eliminating little car stackers. >> good afternoon. i'm racism live on union street request my young family like is apartment face russel the size of the

building they're opposed we met point architect to express our loss of prifls and in 4 months asked him we found the plan you think challenge when my family and i moved here the north side of that new structure will change it is essentially contemporary building with third floor with the glass rail deck and balcony the floor to ceiling and top bedrooms with the glass balcony expending 12 feet from your bedroom window the architect suggested we keep the shades drawn that doesn't make sense the large window and the height of the building with my children to have privacy it is a serious concern considering anyone can be watching us with a crystal clear view and whether

they'll be - having people able to look at my bedroom 12 feet away i don't understand why they choose to create a problem with privacy i urge to looks at those and address did height that creates a living space between our homes and remove the balcony and finally reduce the size of that window wouldn't be receiving any lights from that side anyway thank you very much. >> good evening commissioners. >> my name is - i live on>> next speaker. >> union street with john and lived there 23 years i want

reiterates the privacy impacts the unusual context the multi union building is quality to the prelsz our kitchen and lincoln face into that rear yard the property windows with non-complying the residents of the proposed building will be stands on, on their balcony 12 feet away from our living room and in psychology the bring is privacy is more than 12 feet we'll not be able to go to the kitchen without worrying about the residents of russel are not with us even with windows closed we'll hear the conversations on russel and the second floor deck

are only 16 and a half feet if the primarily living spaces that is is legitimate of a toyota camry you'll see this the noise and light and privacy are effected the existing buildings with our privacy is low to the ground and is ground floor subterranean although the building should be going down instead of up the address light could be better little evacuation is needed no rear facing balconies or decks no matter no way to screen for noise on the raised outdoor

surfaces thank you that's my comment. >> hello commissions my name is a courtney i was asked to reads a statement dear planning commission i live on russel street across the street from the proposed project and have been concerned about the proposed project on russel street outs find proportion with our historic conservation neighborhoods. i'm also concerned about having agree two car starker garage directly across the street where i park my car's it is narrow with go many cars undertaking and the introduction of the stacker will create congestion and pull into the stacking garage and out of context with our quiet neighborhoods i'll ask the planning commission look at

it and eliminate the stacker garage thank you >> good evening commissioners my name is my name is chisz i'm here to any public comment on on behalf of the discretionary and is entire neighborhoods of russian hill i've lived for thirty years the neighbors have talked about their concerns those impacts are loss of lighted and mid block open space that is all right seriously kramdz and in addition significant loss of privacy resulting if the this is an informational item deck and is second story deck on russel as

shown in this image and it is such close proximity to the living space the virtual only this will be x bats by sxeefgly large doors and windows to open to blank walls on russel and union prior to issuance of the 311 the retained directed the project sponsors to have a window opening system with the front of the facades is includes the windows featuring traditional trim and detailing by contrast as shown in the image the proposed types of windows and doors at the rear are punched open working in the solid wall the second floor

openings have floor to ceiling extending across the width of the property unlike any other windows perhaps is residential design team as to do with opening didn't exclude the rear yard even closer than the front facade question, rectify the situation ask this that afternoon to improve the rear facade by reducing the total area of glazed opening busy twelve percent and modest the floor to ceiling at the second floor to be separate clear story windows but the scale height of feet above and less i think value of of privacy and more compatible with the adjacent buildings thank you for your time and consideration. >> good evening, commissioners

my name is laurnls after birth i was raised in the 1241 to 55 union street building our family home for four generations purchased by my a gather in the 1940s the chinese inclusion act wliftsdz and our family was the first of chinese descents toe purchase the property my father took pride endurgz the great depression to experience the homeowners this home and this community means a lot to us the building is consists of 3 flats two face the addition of russel on union street we impediment in the flats the kitchen and bedrooms and living are there

because of the rest of the building gets little light the window are the most for those windows are our source ever light the height of the proposed structure and it's closeness to the living spaces will greatly reduce the lights into our home we understand that something cack built but my family asked you to our economy commissioners to take a closer look at this the height can be reduced by one story and any added stories setback to allow the light to reach us on union street the balcony should be removed perhaps in another area a project of this size would cause no notice but the lack of open

space requires measures director rahaim buildings there is a texture to you our city i urge the commission to political it's modern and director rahaims principle to our acute problem you as supervisors you can improve this project and achieve a balance between the worries about succeed with russel and the needs of my family thank you sfovldz if you can go over to the overhead and keep it for the duration of this presentation. >> commissioner good afternoon. i'm john, i live on

union street i lived in the neighborhoods for 3 years from the beginning a number of us have felt this is a demolition i can take this opportunities to reiterate what the gentleman said we lived received updated demolition calculations at 520 some of the remarks were brementd in advance of that receipt at the last minute we finally decided to see have an experts look at the 311 drawings but here's what she said the calculation tables we've received again prior to 5:20 p.m. today those are supposed to be sponsored by a number of drawings that pinpoint the facades and the floor mratsdz place of residence removed without those not confirming the numbers in the

table an example the types of demolition drawings for dozens and dozens of projects being for identification where the foundation you can't say measures the foundation without knowing where the foundation and the areas of the floor plate and the exterior removed we asked side planner? events the planning department had them he said the only demolition was the one floor plane no other drawings and so we were wondering how the calculations were going done with the calculation drawings and go why what is this sponsor allowed to bypass where ever we can others sponsor riders to produce the drawings the second thing said it was oufbs when the horizontal clacks is wrong is sponsors demolition tables showed 7 percent of the

floor plate will be removed but the floor section the entire floor plate is lowered 10 inches to, in fact, wfldz is removed whether an interior floor place of residence is an interior it is counted as demolished is where's the calculations say 9 percent of the roof is removed the rules came out indicate that 100 percent is removed and mentions in pga the lightwell windows are over lays in the proposed go evaluations it didn't match the overhead photographs and given the historic conservation district is wholly inadequate.

>> i'm alison a residence for 18 years i'm reading a statement on behalf of mary barker commissioners i'm the house sitter for 64 russel street iermentd speaking on behalf of the owner i took this photo the one day the story polls were put up from a view the lightwell if the extension of the back of the property in question as you can see the will the to 64 russel will be dramatically impacted and particularly due to the fact the sponsors intend an filling in the setbacks to the south two making the elements smaller than and 3 filling in little lightwell hallway up the window line i spent a fair enough of times here i'm afraid

this will have the needs for light particularly in the morning hours and hope the commissioners whether ask the sprnz to maintain the lightwell within 64 russel thank you. >> supervisors afternoon raifb communities association 60 russel will be the largest construction project on russel street in the last centuries and it probable will last a centuries so we fled to get it right the sponsors are entitled to maximize in their investment as

long as they don't minimize the quality of life with their neighbors as is materials submitted by in our packets go e-mails by the neighbors and is commissioner kim's that appears before you today with the impact on light privacy and is that is all substandard and is proximities of promoted balconies and low height of the historic conservation building along russel have neighborhoods to identify a dozen ways to productive the project first story reduced by three or four feet and can be accommodated by lower the first story plates and this is not an issue of view if anyone has been in a union

street residence you you know or know there are no views an issue of privacy and an issue of light second replace the garage with a different place a few years ago the commission approved the conversion of hyde a 58 car garage into 58 unions this is a transit rich area why do we need parking is going one of the things the commission said at a point and thirds remove the rear balcony no pattern for the balconies and roof decks in the area it is an invariation the privacy and this impacts the privacy and not certify to say the occupants will keep is closed we came up with the ideas of bottom seals

and fifth maintaining the lightwells and 7 setback the roof deck railings and the dr filers their expert is not available and the plans needs to be xhekdz or checked for accuracy continue our decision and until we show this is not a demolition. >> any other folks in support of dr requester. >> good evening planning commission i'm joanne architect 25 years on russian hill now on telegraph hill in the city 29 years in private practice i've never seen in my day a project get this far with drawings this poor i have a similar case that in

the 311 stages it equally has a poor demolition calculation and substandard planners the same planner is about to pass it phenomenon for the 311 notice at the same time, we're here barely received the restrictions plan i'd like say in this the city will acknowledge through the planning department that is a historic district because of 1945 hyde this should go to say action pc mr. kelly fails to attribute any events to this house excuse me - the owners bought it in february of 1906 and believe it or not out and went to the process of rebuilding if that is not connected to a significant part

of the city's histories we should go home in a historic district you don't need to be arithmeticly a contributor you can for example, share a design or location let's go to location that building was never moved it has the integrity the design a modest worker man's house rebuilt after the fire when little funds were about available done in 1906 and it has 6 other neighbors also single-family residences of similar scales fits on the block but none will take a one story 2 second story to a first story

those are 3 aspects of integrity with regards to materials i think a workmanship their eventual and finally feeling an association if you walk think this block look on 10 pages and 10 and 11 you'll see the 3 buildings nothing but is setting back and evil with feeling that is at odds i say that is a contributor to this district despite of traeflts aeflts any other people in support of dr requester project sponsor 5 minutes. >> you'll receive 10 minutes if you need it. >> sorry.

>> just wanted to say hello to the commissioners, thank you for hearing this today and also my name is christen moourns are the owners of this place that on russel we moved out of because of twins we owned the properties a few years ago when we didn't have can i see it is for the perfect enough now because of can i see i thank you all for license for this project and my name is phil this is

going to be our home basketballs this in 2012 our family is growing and want to make that bigger before i i'm going to turn it over to aenth katherine is a member of the russian hill commission i'm spriepdz and dismaids she's hear i've reached out to her 3 times defining and above and beyond and asks her questions and she's written me a letter and a few people show up and not present to me is not in the spirits of progress we went through request - >> thank you project sponsor architect. >> good evening. i'm ear on blast rdt retained and the

project sponsors for the remodel and addition project on russel street take a mom mome- moment and responds to the allegations the first issue that was raised in the dr plagues and spoken the heights of the project and the relationship to the character of the russel street santa clara in the drawing set our proposal is well blow the for feet height limit for the the district blow the height and well blow at the rear roof deck space

it was stayed our building is way turn around other building in fact, agree closer look at russel street shows the three story buildings were buildings of thirty feet height are prevalent think russel street and contended that russel street is not a street but an alley that is not true based on the planning code definition of a street as a thirty foot right-of-way and religiously street is thirty foot right-of-way although we're going if single story to a three story the height increase is less than a doubling of height the existing parapet on the fronts of russel street is quite at all 17 feet

commissioner hasz plus we've endeavored to keep the overall site of the go addition low and appropriate for religiously street you'll see from looking at images of russel street that a zero fronts setback flat composition is within of the characters features of russel street there are many three story buildings this the the south side of russel street. you'll see in the renders the proposed addition fits in well with the surrounding context on russel street having worked with rdt we're proud to say the final

proposal will be an eloquent harmonious addition that fits in with the character of the street >> there are newcomers buildings on russel street with a similar size and appearance you this house is directly on the other side of 64 russel street to the west of rufls street our proposal is directly to the west of russel street a similar size and scale other homes located open russel street again with similar scale proportionality and exterior dealing on the in the public realm facade. >> fufts examples which

demonstrate the appropriateness of our design proposal to russel street our proposal is similar as you can see. >> certainly an example of an inappropriate proposal that is very far from what we're proposing a. >> one the dr requesters has stated that she actually plans on adrc a story to her own home which would here's an image of her home as it exists a second story residence adding a story to her house will bring it is to a similar scale of our proposal so we'll ask why a three story house. okay. for that side of the street

spokesman's the effects on light and assess and shadows to neighboring properties is located on the north side of russel street and therefore will not casts shadows into russel street here's a small sample of shadow studies the project sponsor voluntarily priorities to the neighbors on russel and union street the graphic clearly shows both properties 64 russel. >> 1243 union street cast shadows and for 64 russel the proposed will never shade with these on the fronts or elevation and the extents of shadows is

limited to the side lightwell an 1243 union street no windows at the habitable floor are shatdz by 64 russel street speaking to get privacy and mid block open space so you'll see ♪ compare active - to the rear evaluation of russel their uniformly significant turn around homes on russel street light including our proposed addition the image that was shoenl earlier in the evening to depict the view from 1243 union street was taken from the basements level of 1243 union street

you'll find is slightly disingenuous to be speaking to that vantage point additionally the union street provide zero to the space your proposal provides greater than the codes requirements addressing 64 russel street steps outside the box well into the moved and seconded open space again to a much greater sixth than our proposal this illustrates the relationship the union street prosper that tower over the russel street properties i visited some of the homes on union street and able to fraundz obvious and appreciate the panoramic views and we feel that to a large

extents the objections are in the interest of protecting panoramic views additionally the roof deck that is proposed is adjacent to the nursery for the new bones you met and by no means any kind of party deck and we believe it will be connected to the - >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> opening up for the spores of the folks that spoke

(calling names). >> good evening commissioners i'm charles phils father and those two babies gather any son and daughter-in-law bought this phil was born an larkin street in san francisco and children's hospital in san francisco please allow any children to build the house they'll live in you don't want people like them leaving our city but live here and enjoy this house is very sensible designed please allow them to build and live in it. >> any other commenters in ports of project sponsor. >> any i'm on green street

and i'm in ports of project i was honestly a little bit surprised when phil said their meeting with opposition their spending a lot of time and looked at the plans prior to submission that met the height they're not asking for section outside the existing codes so it seems lying a fair request and fair plan as far as the issues that came up no easement for loyalty those are things that come up whether your buying a in house a neighborhoods that is adjacent to a neighbor not meeting the height limit and lastly they're a lovely city and find a home to live in with in their children i have to small children and at

at&t's an impact cultural having a family and struggling to find a way to stay it would be a shame to see them go away. >> thank you, very much. >> any other speakers please. >> thank you and good evening. i'm parish phil is my son and he was born here in san francisco and whom we brought home i'm out of breekt taking care of of those babies larkin street to the residence it was a joy to think my son will be able to enjoy his life in san francisco and at that very date that residence is being

renovated homes that need updating and building ability and space for families i have been involved in the cultural and the educational life san francisco for 45 years i moved here 50 years ago as a young woman to start my young family and i know how important to have families and mothers and fathers that enrich the fabric of that communities i think that phil and christen will do that i hope you approve their plans. >> thank you. any the speakers. >> hello, i'm page phil and chris tenancies i was burn in the city and live in sacramento here for the past 13 years i've

seen the plans i think in their beautiful and fitting wonderfully in the neighborhoods i hope that phil and christen can raise their families here thank you. >> additional speakers. >> hello, i'm kate i reside on green street i'm a property owner on green street and i port this project i've seen the plans i think they're beautiful and tare within the regulations i know i've heard several people be concerned about the lighting but they're within the regulations and being a social worker and supervisor homes i know that rules are rules and what is fair is following the rules so you judge wanted to thank you for your time and also want to say

i'm so delighted to have a young family move on o move into the neighborhoods russian hill supports diversities they have activities there four young and oldest families. >> thank you. any others additional speakers ma'am. >> i'm margaret i'm christen's mother and i totally support this project and the reasons we do my daughter. >> someone left the marines after seven years hopefully to raise a family here we knew that was a small houses but many small houses on the streets smaller and i hope youup