the case for many, many years on sunday's; correct? >> yeah. >> specially on van ness when did this practice stop. >> it's not stopped. >> so the same an delores street; correct? >> correct. >> does the present practice violate parking code. >> not enforced. >> so, yeah. >> so instead of making again an informal process we're like hey stakeholders make that formal and listen to everything whether you live here two or three years a lot of the oldest stakeholders want to view the community and urban design part of the process there was a consensus that was reached to formalize the parking and the business community is in favor of this formalization.

>> we had a letter of support from henry i can't say. >> yeah. >> so the merchant corridors are in favor. >> okay just to be clear other than subpoenaed where or what are the other days you're trying to legalize parking. >> and john from the sfmta when it comes to specific but technically sunday and a few other times friday evening arrest saturday it is specific and it is very directed to help those institutions draw the constituents. >> and you have the support of businesses for this. >> yes. >> and the institutions that are technically nonprofits to have a great vacuum of constituency that outweighs the constituents but want to be supportive of everybody in the process. >> without the churches where

delores heights or so in the western edition the churches or pacific heights the double parking on sunday and special holidays and stuff is permitted and the city worked with that and you know granted they never enforced it but been a helping out of the - you know is helped everybody a no-brainer. >> i know there is agreement in others neighborhoods with during the course so good for you. >> the situation new resident call for enforcement of the parking restrictions. >> yeah. but part of the progress and the consensus plan we present to the board of sfmta

they voted away i wasn't there so they would like to borrows the current situation regarding parking. >> what were the objections. >> that your parked illegally here in medium and causes the traffic it is an inconvenience. >> did you say that they're still negative impact on the traffic. >> i mean i'm not a traffic person but like commissioner vice president adams said is it so happening before the existence in that community i don't want to say it didn't create congestion but for small businesses congestion is a good thing in a sense we want the volume of traffic in the community. >> okay well should we hear in the mta

representative briefly. >> good afternoon. thank you i'm john i'm a planner at mta. >> hi john. >> in the committee i didn't come with is prepared presentation at all but i guess speaking to a couple of the comments you know this is been a very contentious issue within the neighborhood for a number of years commissioner ortiz-cartagena is correct the parking is gone on for decades we have records of complaints filed about that practice for many, many years and as he rightfully said parking enforcement is deprioritized fewer parking control officers and most of work in the court the parking problems are more important we

will cite safety issues we did - did do a bunch of community outreach definitely true the people that live in the neighborhood have fairly strong opinions we've not finalized the question does mta have is a proposal we've not finalized one but hopefully to the boards on the 16 in the survey of residents we find about 50 percent would be willing to find a fair everybody can park solution 74 percent wants to see the parking go away go together i want to be careful, you know, we had a what appeared to be a developing consensus among the committee members as we went through the - as rightfully said the 4 to 3

vote with one person not there in favor of the parking and one committee rules for adopt a recommendation so the committee is not come to an official recommendation. >> is the committee going to vote against. >> we did the san francisco neighborhood services & safety committee went to reconvene so have all the people vote and the members that voted in the park indicated they're not interested in participating. >> okay. so so for in your evaluation did it represent a safety issue. >> i think. >> the perspective of the mta. >> the committee identified a number of issues caused by the medium parking we saw an expert data and analysis the safety was

one issue we found potential safety issues recommended to cars that park up to the intersection that block the visibility of people we're talking about and biking and late at the night there is if you're not technically supposed to park there sometimes for cars up until 4 in the morning that means someone in driving in delores they - >> so one place the committee in its final recommendation attempt recommendation had completed agreement whatever happens with the parking that is formalized pull back from the corners for voishth and the fire department is waterproofing in agreement to changing others parking practices. >> okay. >> were there statistics about

problems or accidents a record for . >> no record we did a we hear aspires about cars hitting you know definitely have been collisions we did a collision review we didn't find a pattern that suggested that somehow on sunday cars were parked there that go collisions happen for people walking that type of - and i have a question subject to those elements on the corner and lots that were issues were addressed did you say that it can be safe to park in the middle and yes. i believe that's our position and second since you're the expert in dealing with the businesses it is beneficial to both sides; correct? to have this parking allow certain hours of day. >> the feedback that i think one of the issues that's glonts

years the - there's been an idea people parking there is going to church that is unfair bend the process people parking an delores with were going to church but in the afternoon to the shops the general feeling all the shops benefit from people being able to park on the medium and the commissioner mentions to be formalized and clearly formalized everyone is allowed to be there probably not 100 percent any group of people agree on anything but most of them seem to be supportive. >> one final question you may have said it just to be clear what's the next step for dallas fort worth the

restrictions and allowing the next step. >> our anticipated next step we'll put together a formal proposal for the board i'll say it likely will be for delores tooiptd we're having conversations and we'll be taking it to the extension at this point in time to our board on august 16th. >> so the fact the vote - commissioner ortiz-cartagena since that an inclusive review you'll look at >> thank you thank you very much for coming today. >> commissioner - i'm sorry did you have a question. >> come back. >> commissioner yee-riley has a question. >> is this thing not working again. >> it is. >> john thank you for your presentation and also you talk

about the next step so what about are you looking at the time limits for people that are able to park there. >> same car will not be there the whole day. >> yeah. probably the easiest way when we come forward we thought the committee developed into a commenced proposal we were trying to avoid mta to approve this we worked through that and at this time it was limiting the hours on delores and the question to allow friday nights life enrichment committee where that currently happening not limiting - limiting to certain hours on friday nights and serve the businesses and saturday morning and most of day on supdz we've not talked about

two hour parking or any sort of you can only park for a certain number of hours that's not been the conversation at this point in time. >> i think that is beneficial for the businesses because they're available for other customers. >> that's a very good point we're proposing to bring forward on the 16 to the board meeting not a specific proposal but we're asking them to provide approval or direction on a direction do we want to formalize or get rid of it we want to hour the committees work so i think that's a great point wears getting direction to find a way to formalize the parking that's to be routine by the planning commission, and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote important conversation. >> did you you talk with the churches about i know that sometimes 2 hour time limit can be short for them i hope you -

>> give them enough. >> 8 member committee and met monthly with a larger group of churches and synagogues to talk about the issues again, we didn't talk about the time limits if this is something we'll pursue but talk about that with the churches. >> first step determine if you'll move forward or not. >> thank you very much commissioners any other things or open up for public comment okay anyone wish to comment on item number this item. >> one moment please we have a speaker card we'll call those in

order. >> good afternoon commissioner president dwight and commissioners my name is a mr. kim the pastor of corner stone church, i appreciate the opportunity to share the one that john led again kudos to john for facilitating a challenging issue four almost a year nature briefing i represent a church that parks only guerrero on both sides and if you've never drivenl through that the church we've been working with we fully release it is - given the level of traffic not an issue we also have the informal guidelines we've received from the sfmta and identified volunteers and coned off the areas and leave a

couple of parking spaces on the medium for the left hand and we are as responsible as we can as a matter of fact i'm the one that called the mta to ticket our church members that stated too long on guerrero but as part of committee i do want to request that the commissioners support the letter and a formalizing this is one of the contention issues because of the ine informal clarity we can and can't park here and involved guerrero as well as delores and i'll say if i lived on delorsaw or two cars we're requesting i support this potential issue to formalize what happens on the

sunday and we're working with the judiciously synagogue and realized this impacts the city and as church of 2000 people and almost 15 hundred on a weekly basis we believe we bring a strong customer base to the mission district we know a lot of the businesses and restaurants and also as william suggested whoops. >> our church has been there thirty plus years at a time when there was not a hip place to be or favorable place we recognize a number of people that moved out and this is a provides availability for those to come into the city. >> thank you for coming out and talking about. >> any other speaker cards. >> next is ace washington.

>> first of all, i want to apologize i was aggressive you have to realize commissioner recused himself if the mission street and been there many, many years same thing i thought born and raised in the fillmore and felt you had a commissioner on your board that shellfish recommended the fillmore i don't know when you talked about issues in the fillmore you should recuse unifying but i'd like to know and perhaps need to find out maya angelou let me say i apologize if you feel i'm aggressive i have been called many things but a community activists born and raised in the fillmore you talk about gentrification if you been to the fillmore the gentrification

it is and the body language let me say one thing i'm going to ask on the way you react to me, i'm an individual in the fillmore i'm going to speak on item 10 and request you come to our community and see if i get a nice response and talking about the fillmore and then not have to come up and give up and actor as angle activist i've been called a lot of things here and revolutionary no i'm a visionary i've been in the community many years from the user renewable we know as urban renewable you don't give a damn about it i'll talk about small businesses on the tenth item. >> members of the public like to comment on this item seeing

none, public comment is closed. commissioners we have any more comments. >> motion in support of letter to the sfmta that william read earlier. >> i second that motion. >> okay roll call vote. >> all right. >> the motion is to support the letter commissioiner vice president adams commissioner dooley commissioner president dwight commissioner ortiz-cartagena is recused commissioner tour-sarkissian commissioner yee-riley commissioner zouzounis is absent that that item passes 5 to zero with one absent and one recused excellent. >> okay all right. item number 5 an update. >> item 5 update on the legacy business deduction item your presenter is richard legacy business program manager. >> welcome richard.

>> thank you good work richard legacy business program manager i'm slick rick i'm here asked at the last san francisco small business commission to come forward on a presentation with the legacy business and where we are and heading so i have a july 2016 report in your packet and have a slide presentation. >> as of july 20th we've received 78 pneumonia and 26 applications and 9 of the applications have been reviewed by the historic preservation commission and 10 applications are currently in review by the historic preservation commission

the 9 applications reviewed by the historic preservation commission were reviewed by the commission on the 20th of july i have them listed on slide number 3 and is 10 applications currently in review will be coming before the commission on the 3rd of august and they're ten of those listed on slide number 4 >> i'm going to take a few moments to talk about the highlights additional items in the report but those r some of the highlights and the slide is the majority of where we've been and take a few moms in april of 2015 the legacy was established and a secretary hired and august 28, 2015, the commission

secretary was the secretaries last day october 2015 the application was completed and received our first nomination november 2017 prop j passed april of this year commission secretaries first day after 8 months vacant and development the process and updated the instructions and posted on the website. >> on june 21st our first line applications were sent to the historic preservation commission and july 5th was my fizzed day and we added chinese and tagalog to the registry page and july 10th we sent 10 applications to the historic preservation commission and july 20th the first 9 applications were read by the

historic preservation commission and on august 8th the 9 applications approved by the historic preservation commission were come before the small business commission we have created a calendar to show the deadlines for the applications based on the historic preservation commission and the small business commission hearing dates if this commission decided to extend the business assistant grant application to december 15th which is what we're proposing the deadline for applications is october 3rd and that will give us a few more opportunities between now and then to get operations to the historic preservation commission. >> i have a quick question for the business legacy not the assistants; correct? >> this is for the registry

that's correct. >> i have a question about the deadlines what do they - >> the historic preservation commission has thirty days to review the applications siding the second column is thirty days before the thirds column and thought that is prudent to give the legacy business program staff two weeks to rusts applications to so the first column is before the second column to give us time to review the information. >> actually what you mean not a set deadline we're taking the commission the historic preservation commission and then setting a date two weeks earlier. >> yep. >> as. >> yeah. as a recommendation we highly recommend to us by the third and the actual deadline to the historic preservation commission on the second column

so we're working with that most importantly. >> benefits the legacy business program we have a business assistant grant for all registers and grants $500 per employee for june 30th and we expect up to one hundred ftes we expect 60 to 75 recipients and extending the deadline. >> can you clarify the first bullet for all registers for people on the registry versus the landlord so the next grant. >> potentially vail. >> yes potentially vail. >> let's be clear on the same

ticks. >> we mutt keep the expectation mark farrell be registered on the registry didn't domicile you to a grant it makes you eligible to apply a grant. >> and just also point of conversation for the second step that is to get the grant we are going to be setting some deadlines and working towards them. >> guidelines and deadlines and applications. >> if i may take a quick moment the calendar that rick presented with this calendar let's see on the power point part of - because we want to

insure that when we get to dealing with the ability to be able to administrator the preservation grant we can clearly community to the applicants that if they want to participate in the 16, 17 grant circle the deadline they need to insure if they're interested in participating the deadlines they need to insure they're a legacy business registry application is submitted to the office for us to be able to process it in time them to be on the registry for them to meet the grant filings. >> okay. >> on bullet number 2 grants equal to $500 that's a grant a maximum grant equal to $5; correct?

not automatic. >> not automatic. >> an mainstream that can be up to and not to exceed $500 per ftes and again, i'm just trying to clarify so people don't immediately start calculating their grant based on the number of ftes times 5 hundred that's not the case it is dependent how many requests and your ability to distribute a limited sum of money to a group that will likely over describe that fund so maybe less than $500. >> ; is that correct. >> i apologize for the miss language. >> the power points sometimes there's shorter language and sometimes not a good thing. >> i want to clarify that is the place to do it. >> i appreciate that and the stabilization grants those are for landlords that do the

estimation of 10 years and the wording from the legislation on the power point grant will equal 450 up to $4.50 up to a maximum of 4 hundred and we estimate that. >> i have a question. >> r or do we estimate to accommodate them. >> yes. >> the estimates come from the budge received and trying to get. >> rough. >> this is not an estimate of the number of people we think will apply for the grant stabilization our ability to meaningfully distribute. >> it is a little bit of both. >> i think in terms of the what we're looking at as we're righting the budget number is the actual outlet of the property owners interested in

signing a 10 year lease and then those that will be extending their lease to a total of 10 years i mean it would be an under estimations with the terms of the applicant with their leases that it is more of an kind of an estimations of those property owners the actuality of property owners engaging in a 10 year lease and communications with the investment neighborhood teams that with work a lot of the businesses as they're trying to secure leases or new leases the conversation they're having with property owners. >> the $4.50 per year or

month. >> per year. >> and that should be noted that also for the businesses assistant grant it is a yearly grant and has to be reapplied for every year. >> and application is july 1st to september 30th just to make it simply we'll round up to $0.38 a month per square foot. >> i have a clarification no, not at all. >> the process on the registry to grow the application through the historic preservation commission; correct? >> yes. >> yes. >> now for the second step the business doesn't have to grow back to the historic preservation commission. >> no the applications; correct? >> the application is i'm

sorry. >> the application is filed and then final determination is made by the small business commission and then once the commission makes it adjudicate it is places on the registry or not placed on the registry and then if the application for the ability for that business to submit an application for the preservation grant do that during that grant cycle application cycle they'll be able to do that or wait until next year the rent stabilization grant will be inevitable for a property owner on the registry that's role it during the year. >> for the grant application it does not have to be submitted

to other commission. >> right and per prop j so we will be doing the reviews of the grants soon the determination so you'll be making the i have - sorry the commission will hear all applications for the registry then you will be making - approving grant guidelines or approving or making changes but voting and taking action on grant guidelines for us staff to - for the grant programs of which those will not come back unless you want them but woolen going to be working targeted procedures staff will be approving the grants based on

the approval guidelines you approve. >> did does that answer your question. >> so not to backtrack i want to clarify so the grant of up to $500 per fte it also is up to $500 per year for per fte. >> 5 hundred directing per not per fte and while that grant is not really intended those grants are a populations to labor hours but a grant - >> you'll be making the determination so not today but at the next meeting you'll be making a determination as to - we're going to be putting forward recommendations on what those grants can be used for and their application and we'll be

you'll be making the decision on what you determine are appropriate items for - >> we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. >> it is you've to think of that in metrics we said and often small business think per dollars per power if i might to clarify one clarifying expectations $500 per fte amazed to $41 per month per fte it qualities to $0.25 an hour. >> that's the moment. >> can you say annual grants. >> i'm putting in perspective that $500 is equivalent to $25 an hour if you work an 8 hour work and take vacation just in perspective in a time when

minimum wage is circulating at the one dollar per year okay so again, this is very important to me as the president of this commission and this hot low discussed matter that the stepgsz about the maximum benefits will likely benefit and what are the kind of just the understanding of what those benefits amount to say important i think the estimation has been created in the public this is a silver bullet and it is not so i think that we have been criticized because we have businesses out there that think we're standing between them and survival. >> and so i offered those two carry on thank you. >> thank you. >> yeah. i just i want to thank you commissioner president dwight you expressed my

sentiments we're holding fund and recommend or ask like if there is fte you know if there is 5 hundred ftes what is the maximum if we spent all the funds on ftes what's the maximum so small businesses also understand that you know there's not an unlimited resources for every particular prom to that point thank you at the last meeting he requested not only this presentation but the presentation of the best case scenario for you know quite a few a couple scenarios whether a rauntdz or likely applicant and what they might expect under the absolutely best case scenario how it effects their business i think outside the box anyone that does business planning for survival planning around this program needs to understand in the best of words this might

impact their survival by the way, it is not the intention and a our fiduciary responsibility to make sure we don't make a grant to a business that is going to fail regardless the fiduciary responsibility of this commission to make the grants with the expectation the reasonable expectation that that grant will have a positive effect on the survival of the business and not delay the inevolve. >> thank you commissioner president dwight thank you that should breakdown by hours those grants are not for you to add one hundred employees to the false implication out in the media what is the impact of 25 crept if you administer the funds. >> do you notice a hundred thousand dollars for your businesses to survive you need

our bank. >> okay sorry richard. >> joined the conversation 0 so we talked about the rent stabilization grants and property the tenant acquisition grants for the non-restricted property owners that's lose language that is registers to apply. >> it means the business owner that leases their maybe in how do you call it a non-party not leasing from our parents or nephews so this is to a building. >> to be determined and where again loosely estimating 6 to 10

tenants. >> have we made some rough estimated carve outs for that part. >> we - so again we're just providing you with a high-level overall overview and at the next meeting you'll get this ahead of meeting we're developing and solidifying the guidelines from work that the investments neighborhoods program has been successful some of it will be for the ta improvements around helping around securing the leases to but again more to come. >> and this - >> this will be a one time grant; correct? >> correct. >> one time grant and get any bearings are we talking about closer to one thousand dollars or $10,000. >> much one hundred thousand dollars grants. >> closer to one thousand

dollars or $10,000. >> closer to 10 yeah. >> so, so that 3 has meaning in weight and the ability to help businesses secure what and again, the invested neighborhood the work that is done with some of the businesses to be able to secure and 5 year lease with some of the improvements just helps to do some stabilization. >> all right. >> a point of clarification about the - the 10 year lease and the dollar and $0.50 with a maximum of 5 thousand just to be clear a one time payment not a yearly - a yearly payment so long as you get into the program that payment will be renewed each and every 12 years for the

number of years that specified according to the lease extension. >> okay. >> so this is not - as long as they're in the program those 4 recipients remain in the program. >> their they will remain eligible for both the business assistants grants and the rent stabilization grant a reapplication every year but they've been initially qualified the reapplication will be less a more simplyer application let's say for the business assistance grant we could be based on ftes and the next year the business could have fewer ftes or a greater number of ftes there maybe differences and for the you know the rent stabilization grant we want to insure the business is occupying that says

that a business could decide to close and move and others variables not continue through the 10 year lease so their say requirements for the revifshgs but make them relatively insure and commissioner ortiz-cartagena revealed another aspect as the companies are followed by - without increasing the policy increasing the availability of - >> yes and no. >> i want to clarify that point as you're getting more landlord in the podium you are dividing the pot equally among the recipients. >> get more money yep. >> rick will be later in the power point showing you that

part of the work we're going to be beginning to at you know - we'll be beginning to work with the businesses registered to early on make those dermsz in terms of trying to get ahead of what the grant request will be to be able to provide a report to the board of supervisors and to the mayor and so put those numbers before them and up to the mayor and the board of supervisors to determine whether they will increase the you know the amount of funding to the program if it needs it so again, it will be our reporting to make that determination in terms of what is the potential utilization and if there's no funding change the numbers increase and what the

gra amounts look like this will be part of reporting obviously for you and because as part of budget requests that that you will be likely we'll be prebt to you and you'll be likely you know making a determination as to you might want to push for a budget increase and then the board will make the determination as well. >> business assistants is for the registries and that meaning they're eligible for business assistance if they want and we're estimating 77 assistants low receive that primarily this through the business services but we have

other tools in place as well. >> and then promotion marketing working on the aspect so there's more later on. >> just i think we've received funding in this budget year to develop a brand identity and marketing program we're working on that. >> again. >> additional services next fiscal year we're envisioning we're looking at the possibility of getting sf shine grants for the improvement a program for that the appropriate registers adrc taking into consideration tool in the tool box and at the registering to

the renters. >> exceptions for this fiscal year we expect to disperse the 3 grants that we mentioned earlier and implement the business assistance and is promotion in marketing cases of the program and we will be as jeanie was saying requesting the fund for the next fiscal year when the term comes negotiation. >> the fiscal year runs june to. >> july one through june 30th. >> that's correct and annually after that because we don't have to do that every year and we'll request the sf shine grants for next fiscal year in february when we do the budget and report to the board of supervisors is

due every year on june 1st. >> for the next fiscal year we continue to express the grant annually and revert to the july 1st to september application for the business assistance grant and continue to implementing the formation services annually and disperse the sf shine grants and get them annually exceptions for that the fiscal year after that we will probably begin exploring the property ownership programs and then fiscal year - for the funding i'll be proposing goes back to how much general fund we are using for the program and really wise i think to think about diversifying. >> fiscal year 2021

this is as far as i go in the presentation hopefully by then implements some of the property owner membership it maybe calculated and some takes a few years and hopefully implement some sort of option to different the funding. >> what's the process nourp to implement the ownership. >> i would see those are ordinances we'll be voting. >> a or programs we create yep that would be 4 i mentioned maybe you encouraging tic ownerships and condo condominiumtion for the storefront and then looking maybe something for the federal 504 loan that is citywide and maybe something similar to the cast program but for the legacy businesses.

>> that goes to the process. >> of the legislation. >> absolutely. >> where required. >> we will be required to do. >> i expect those last 2 to be complex i expect weigh take a couple ever years with a lot of input from the folks in the agency. >> pardon me. >> so future reports so i would like to make a reports every month to the installation on the second monday which is the first part of most for example, august 2016 provided at the september 12th and have the full numbers for the month of august if that's

okay with you and provide the statistics based on the month and fiscal year dated and the program totals to keep a running tab since the beginning. >> okay. >> and some of the things i want to report on failures the list of numbers by the number of applications and neejs received and the number of keys received the number of plagues reviewed by the historic preservation commission and the small business commission the businesses added to the legacy that is the businesses approved by the hpc and the number and amount of different grants we have and i added an extra slide not in your packet i apologize we made updates to the website and added the legacy business program to the navigation row of the small office of the small

business commission website and adam in the legacy program page and the length of city government forwards slash legacy business goes now to about page and the navigation page and the registry is not changed that page is now dropped down and added the forwards slash registry to that package this is something that makes it more visible and allows us to add more pages a we need them more drop down all over the place reserved 4 and that points to the about page and more information about that. >> great. >> and open to any questions if you have any. >> commissioners. >> commissioiner vice president adams. >> just richard you did a job for respond many stepped up to

the plate into that and knew you had the background but you put this in two weeks and got it on track and you have a timeline you know everything we need to see to get this program upcoming and this is very good thank you. >> thank you. >> yes. thank you very much commissioner any other comments shall we open up for public comment okay. thank you richard. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. well anyone wish to comment on this item. >> i have a not to say have a lot of history to present to this you commissioners have been commissioners four or five years but got together so therefore your babies compared to what i've been and your director will

tell you i've been in my community for 25 or thirty years let's go on to what you have a new situations at city hall trying to bring to the community let me say one thing as the fillmore ambassador those are the 3 principles once i do any stated of the union we've not - we'll talked about the failed efforts they've failed us back ten years to a master lease and talk about the investment of the neighborhood it failed us mysteriously we've not going to go with miss gietsd leadership - we're also not going to do the egregious in underlining our

community as long as i've got to hear this we'll not let people undermine the community what i mean combine we got our programs now we want to go forward and here the city and county blaming every time you come up with a new program sir, you did a good presentation in my community no in western edition no until you guys our commission comes to the fillmore and explained what goes on and this gentleman explains to the community that what is going on i believe that i put together we partnership with the word is used you talk about the partnership dog gone it partnership with the fillmore ambassador bringing any programs excuse me for being able to

mediational with those new developments and new people getting all the communities and the backs don't get nothing you failed us mysteriously but the traefth if you plan to bring the program to the western edition you better come through me i'll bring it to my community to all the businesses and let them know the new program for us you all and all those grants and everything we want to know here you're the commission putting it together you don't know your skimming them that happens all the time and this is what we got in the community no more. >> thank you. >> thank you all right. >> commissioners any other comments. >> all right. so that- so. >> no action on this item we'll move on to item 6 please.

>> so commissioners for items 6, 7 and 8 i think i had you know sent to you in our agenda packet about discussion around nonprofits and my conversation to have a discussion my conversation has requested time to work with our office to further review the considerations around nonprofits so one i just i'm going to request that we still need to read into the record items 7 and 8 that we just continue those because some of the recommendations i would put forward you to today has questions around the discussion of nonprofits so i'd like to continue those but for item number 6 you know again to help with clarity since we have the opportunity to be on sfgovtv and to help explain to

the business community to walk through the application process on the registry to be clear and identify some nuances of things we're seeing so if we could - read item number 6 into the record we'll review the applications but my request is that we will not be taking any action just to review the complication. >> are you proposing we have a presentation by richard of the process by which one glosses the application. >> correct uh-huh. >> my reading items 6 through 8. >> we're on the agendas separately and require separate public comments item 6 please. item 6 discussion and possible action to make final recollections to the legacy

businesses rules and regulations to administer administrative code section 2a 242 the legacy business registry discussion and possible action the presenter presenters are regeneral executive director of the office of the small business commission and richard program legacy business program manager. >> actually, i will have richard bring up for the public website for the application for the website so that the businesses can see and also for staff of the nominees i will have richard walk you through to reiterate the first process is for the business to be nominated by the mayor's of board of supervisors and for them to nominee a

business that meets the criteria that will be that richard will read into the record. >> thank you. >> so i have the website here that can bring up this is the on the bottom of the registry page there are 3 different pdf the instruction from the enormities and the legacy business application - a one-package document all about the registry i'm sorry this is for the nominee oversees for the supervisors or mayor on the letterhead and the

contact information and xhaits on the 3 criteria for the businesses operating in san francisco for thirty years and caveat to contribute this the neighborhood history and the community to maintain the features to define the business. >> and then from there go to the process for the nominees the 3 eligible criteria for the nominees. >> i don't mean to trumpet you can you clarify who will be the recipient of that letter noems noemgs we have been dissolution not policy but i came on board

i've been proposing that the nominations come in with applications trying to mayor that process and make it closer because we've been getting a lot of nominations and sometimes, the nominees don't knows about the programs and not interested in the program or don't have time to do on application that creates problems i've been given instruction to the mayor and the supervisors that we would like to see those come in more closely and they should reach out to the businesses and make sure they're interested in the process and the program so that's hopefully going to improve some things. >> thank you for that one i am not going to mention the business a business was to be nominated and no idea they are only nominated so you get a crucial point i hope the

supervisors and mayor's office are listening they say this is so key. >> it safes time for supervisors and mayor and the legacy business program and safes times for the businesses as far the nomination are coming in with applications so that's been helpful. >> we go over the registration process still when the nomination comes in we're contact the owner and it is not as important to reach out to the businesses quickly when they come in together the business has already filled out an application we work with the business to get an application we'll go over and once the

application is complete we republic it to the historic preservation commission for review there are looking at criteria 2 which was how they add to the community and the neighborhood and then from there comes to the small business commission for a final review and what we really want to make it clear also that let them know when they come before you they're presenting themselves you know for the request are to be on the registry with the historic preservation commission they does not need to attend it is advised but they're not requested to present so we want to kind of make sure that process is clear and kind of their commitment in addition to the you know the pretty expensive commitment they need to take to fill out the application. >> finally on the website the

application itself we have again go over the criteria for those 3 criteria we want to make sure that everybody is aware we given guidance to the applicants throughout the whole process they need to concentrate on those 3 criterias. >> can i point out something about the brief criteria it is so visually for the criteria each one of the criteria says essentially the small business commission we're the office of the small business commission our purview is business i interpret business to be for profit enterprise and not a

nonprofit and so we're going to have discussion on this because let's remember that is the registry the registry is the knothole the gate for the assistance program if you can't be on the revengey you can't get assistance so ratified by the board of supervisors in the language business business business. >> all right. so that's a very important distinction because this preincludes anything happens on the other side mainly the consideration and the granting for the business opportunities >> businesses our purview i personally as a commissioner

don't know about nonprofits i do know that they have different tax rules i do know they have different source of funding actually this city government has funding programs nonprofits in fact, capitol hill for nonprofits they don't apply to for profit enterprises i regard this is as a separation of church and states for profit businesses and nonprofits enterprises and charities at the don't intersect in the commission we will have a discussion those two worlds don't intersect in the document the document that splifz the legacy business and my reading of the criteria is specifically

business which i terminate for profit business and the others can disagree if they like it will - we've been asked to delay our discussion because this year is interest in adrc nonprofits to this program and if we are to add them to the funding program we must have them added to the registry that will require we change the rules and accommodate in the rules specifically nonprofits and so their presently not included not excluded but i exclude them by virtue of the language so we'll move forward. >> i want to say that nonprofits are 2, 3, 4 pipeline in terms of applications and i understand nonprofits that are in a moment by the supervisors

and the mayor's office they've completed and submitted applications for the registry i'll suggest to you that the first call to action by making a nomination to share the entity meets the criteria of the document that's why i make that point and commissioners you know this was agendized we need to provide in the future some sort of - some sort of clear direction to the nominee oversees it's the nominee overse

like to hold off on having an extensive we can have a discussion but making any decision as per request from the office of economic workforce development to work with us. >> we've been specifically asked not to make a decision but were i bring this up this is a discussion today and you mentioned the nominators i'm concerned about the nominees it is the nominees who's expectation cause foment among the nominators for the board of supervisors that have been yelling at us at every turn created expectation or we haven't expectations have been kraeltdz criticisms even today, this commission didn't understand the legislation i beg to differ this commission

understand the legislation as written and the supervisors and other in the meantime, bodies are in the not read the document maintained so on timeline and on nominees we have a lot of expectations out there which all the criticism falls on this body here okay. so it is not warranted and we have to clarify this. >> my advise to the commissioners not today but contemplate we have to have very definitive and clear to the extent we need widen room we'll fight this battle every single time a nonprofit comes to the table and so there will be some who say well, let's do it on a case by case basis and others say let's make a clear

determination and fifth the battle ones in my opinion all not up front we'll create a bunch of rules that challenge the nominees and nonprofits into your in and out that will not work this will happen you clarify this is the bright line this commission makes if it chooses not to make the line it is all in for every nomination so we have to make that clear and if we in any way aren't clear on that we are looking at if every time making that determination again and again and again, we're not going to make that determination today we were requested not to make that determination but in two weeks

times of our next meeting my expectation we will make a formal recommendation as to how we'll rule because this gets in the way of us moving forward okay can't you set aside the nominees we're not decided on the nominees we're in the position of doing that prefrnl. >> just for clarification coming back just to be clear it goes through the historic preservation commission they make the recommendations. >> that's correct. >> and criteria 2. >> 0 on criteria 2. >> and would that comes back to us. >> right just to be clear in terms of you know like you this body makes recommendations to the board of supervisors on prevention and they can and cannot do take that into it had time the same for you in terms of the represents with the

historic preservation commission provides you, you can and cannot do i mean, you're not required to take the it had time or required to follow the recommendation but provides additional information and but on the positive - i want to focus on the positive the historic preservation commission does have an extensive historical history so there will be businesses that they are able to sort of add to the rich history of the businesses we can then pull upon to help market and promote those businesses through the registry and i think you know, i really want to encourage us to continue to always talk about the registry is the program the preservation funds is a program of the - it is an add on to the

legacy business registry program and may not exist you know - no guarantee about the funding we do know how to utilize it you historic preservation commission is a small portion of the other programs we need i want to completely stress it the registry and the registry the core component of the program we we want to market and promote the businesses because ideally the majority of businesses on the registry won't need all of the supportive programs they want us to market and promote them. >> director really quick i agree with commissioner president dwight so much and i'll say mix up the registry if the legislative state is the

spirit that's an awesome program we're not politician we're small business owners and people manipulated this and put it on the battle so horde hard work to modify and the registry unfortunately, the miscommunication is like we're giving away millions and millions of dollars and us on the body are withholding that from the small business community i think that i actually like commissioner president dwight their emphasizing i want everybody to be clear that what exactly that we're - >> you can check the record i and all of us have unanimously sports the revengey the registry is the cherry on top of the program the thing we support to be focus on and in fact, we're not focusing in the public arena

on the money it is not about money but a registry of businesses to celebrate of businesses that have been in business for as long as we have thirty or 25 years i've advocated actually go having peers on the registry 15 or 10 years let's celebrate the longevity and bar to get on the registry is very although it is mark farrell inxument on the nominees to provide the supporting dialogue that they contribute in the community and you know frankly i'm not no interests whatsoever of denying any business they're feeling they have contributed if they've been in business x number of years and paid their taxes they have a high proeblthd of making

an application end of story the registry is not a controversial issue at this commission the controversy and the criticism has come from the financial side of this evaluation but this is the gateway of the bit we're most criticized on we won't be getting crippling if not on the website people want to get on the registry to visitor and residents awesome a celebration a party every year and small business week for those on the registry in fact, i have said here that hopefully, we won't be need to restrict it to three hundred nominees and get through the registry process quick and happy to have a set of nominees

vetted at every one of the meeting frankly to do so in the application is filled anti properly and historical since the commission has vetted it i mean as far as i'm concerned, a recommendation from the historic preservation commission is a stamp of approval for us basically says they believe this business has a historic position in the communities i'd be most interested in one they said didn't how will they not qualify and interested in the exemption i see very slim chance that a business recommended by the historic preservation commission will not get approved by this commission that's why i think that will happen quickly this part so this part didn't bother me at all what bothers me we've set

this specifically around business and taking in nominees look the nonprofits are not applying to the registry let's be clear to be on the registry their politically to the registry to be inevitable for a grant - before the rules other than the first piece of legislation not the proposition to the voters this is the first law on the books and this law takes - is the gating law to the subsequent law we've never had an issue frankly as a matter of fact we've been supportive so. >> i apologize. i didn't mean to say the commission was not supportive i was talking to the

viewing public and those listening when we can have the discussion around the nonprofits i think because of i do think that is important we get some definitive positions so we can help the supervisors so if there's pressure that definitive those guidelines whatever direction it takes will for us to be able to say to the nominator yes or no because i think from the experience and rick in terms of doing looter grant administration and ushering with the offices when it is clear then communicating that to those who are out in their neighborhoods and residences and community they're able to articulate and less

likely to be fluntdz by the pressure. >> i'll support a registry for a nonprofit in the city a legacy nonprofit and welcome the co-happytion of that on a website we've spent taxpayer money and piggyback on this that will be fantastic and if we would like to get a supervisor to sponsor land use committee for a nonprofit legacy registry wonderful this is the business registry this is the constituency for which we are advocates and so 0 i don't know about nonprofit and a registry of nonprofits but registry of businesses i'll welcome legislation that establishes a second registry

now i'll tell you not welcome the adjudication of that ♪ commission i'll welcome it done in the historic preservation and their work is final totally fine not our constituents and don't it is cool fine registration anything they want and put it on the website this commission spent its precious volunteer time on our constituency this is businesses and specifically small businesses and so i would prefer to restrict our staff time which is our staff budget by the way, that comes out of this funds to things that really relate to business and hopefully, the people that watch this or later on our constituents whom we advocate small businesses and hope great i like the fact that the commission is advocating for business on this registry

because we don't want to mix things up in the registry this is a business registry celebrating businesses people will go and buy from those businesses because they think their valuable assets to the communities whether you want to donate to a nonprofit i don't care where you do not but buy our stiff from an and our goods and services from san francisco all businesses preferably have not businesses and they're on the registry great all the more advertising and promotion to them that's where we are why we're here that's why we're appointed to be here that's why we volunteer time to be here we're them and they're our constituents so i'm sorry because i don't president

in any way for people to say 24 commission didn't support the remedyingy we are going to have some controversy over the nonprofit put both this - we are asked to support nonprofits it is about money and politics >> i have a question about the question is asked i want to kind of - getting on the registry is a yearly exercise or. >> one time exercise. >> one time exercise. >> one time exercise we didn't get a chance to glow the applications but in section 3

under the business statement we asked the business to say their current on the finalized obligations with the city and no lsd violation their application is available to the public and so we have one other statement the small business commission revoke the placement of a business on the registry in the business no longer qualities and not entitles the business in that you know - the placement on the registry didn't entitle them to a grant on the - in the city funds so the reason why we have that there a business could be on the registry for 10 or 15 years and sell the business so

let's sort of use a recent example in the media was i think was originally joe's that was sold or was it tommy's joint that was originally sold and so there was a lot of question around retaining the original memo and that is a core component in you know one of the core components of what is the legacy of that business so somebody may take the name but change the core component because they retain the name not the legacy of that business that could be something we'll bring forward to the commission this business no longer meets the legacy requirements they applied for . >> just to clarify just because they change the memo and don't offer pasta they're a grateful

subjectivity to this i think that businesses become legacy businesses because not because they stay in the past but they can move into the - >> a question. >> a question i'm asking we're on the legacy businesses and a paragraph and referring the right to revoke. >> going to have to have standards to revoke the business so the question is not i'm not asking for the sake of asking to make sure we admit somebody so a one time deal we reserve the right to hold that business on the registry or out of registry ought to have standards not selectively enforce so for the purpose and hidden that commissioners come in that the

entry what are those to get out pulled out. >> right as okay. >> right and i think you know in business we all understand that businesses have to evolve to stay current and meet the customer demands and side that in our traditional business model so we will be - that's an additional thing we're working on and again, a business can move out of the city that removes them from the registry just because our on the registry didn't mean you'll be on the registry for forever. >> not an entitlement. >> not an entitlement situations the commission makes a determination not something that the commission will have to do and we see with zoning thing to be able to take some action if needed. >> i think i agree totally and

you mentioned the black and white so it is substantive to a degree but, yes. >> i mean let's pick out the obvious ones i think that i mean, i actually think that is more about probably more about do you pay your taxed and a san francisco business i have great reservations about characterizing someone's memo or their overflow room as to whether they continue to be a legacy business and they change hands all the time and the fact they're in san francisco well someone took up the business to keep it in business we should come up with the - you know what are the clear bright lines whether or not you'll continue on the registry and have - to be extraordinarily careful how

to be removed it is two substantive so if so it is about your location and in good stan's with the city. >> yeah. >> and tammy. >> it is an open are house. >> yeah. so - i want to brought to your attention as i think we've mentioned this before that we've combined some of the instructions in the completion of the application so section one is just to give the basic details of the business overflow room location, section 3 again you know the businesses have to be current on their financial obligations, their you can employment obligations

and that they understand the information is subject to the public section number 4 the written narrative and again you know we do have businesses that have changed hands over time and so one of the things we are discovering and/or they change locates what happens is that new business owner or the new location maybe less than 20 years so that we can't verify by business registration they've been in business thirty or more years we're highlighting more specifically that they need to provide you know documents like you can see purposing the business from the previous owner so if they have their business registration the first business registration that some of the businesses have and you'll see that in the application packets

so we junk in receiving some of the first applications realized a few point to make sure that the businesses are addressing ahead of time so you know that they are providing the documentation that the business existed either prior to their current ownership or the current location and then, of course, asking them to provide the written history as it is related to the business its relationship to the community how it operationally is retained the original sort of business operations and it's you know culinary or art as designed in the legislation we've provided suggested in drafting the narratives as it

relates to the 3 criteria we've prioritized some suggested items for businesses to been when their drafting that. >> and then section 5 to highlight some historical documents to support their narrative the historic preservation commission has asked that we specifically ask for take a look at the exterior and the interior of the business we're making sure we ask for that and yeah. >> so those supplemental documents add to the richness and is texture of the business some of them have you know important people that visited their business you'll see a business restaurant

that will they have provided copy of the original memo from thirty years ago and it is interesting to see the prices (laughter) and or you know any articles new articles or they've advertised in a publication that is thirty years or older to provide that so and some businesses are providing this is the facade thirty years ago and this is the facade now you know and clearly things change because businesses have to stay relevant to be able to stay in business so it is interesting to see some of the supplemental documents. >> and i think - so that i just wanted to make sure that businesses really understand that it is on them to draft that narrative to pull out the supplemental documents we have

some businesses that you know may need assistance in drafting that narrative so we're working with the investment team to with work the economic organizations to help to provide the supports especially for english as a second language so getting assistance in draft the narrative. >> all right. and then the final thing is the instructions for submitting the applications; right? >> correct. >> a $50 filing. >> okay. >> fee. >> and as it is written right now the commission there is three hundred nominations a year and when we're in the first first year first fiscal year

year july one we will see you know whether we actually do meet the full three hundred you know whether three hundred nominated or if their say is desire to have more so. >> was there an estimate of the potential population of legacy businesses. >> based on dunn and braid street i'll say four or five. >> but property owners. >> so i want to thank you for the opportunity to really highlight the applications instructions so because there's been again, some misinformation or misunderstanding you've been nominated you're on the registry

so that confusion created in some of the dynamics around the meeting resulted in a high number of neementsz without consultation with the business so we have a high number of nominations submit by waiting for the application two action items coming out of that meeting one appointed by commissioner tour-sarkissian specific criteria around what causes a somewhat on the registry to be kicked off the registry we have clear ones let's write down and the other action item to make a determination regarding

nonprofits. >> that is not to be decided tonight and so any other discussion amongst the commissions otherwise open up for public comment commissioners. >> anyone else see any other action items other than those two? >> i have a question only the commission now is it available on the website. >> yes. >> so everything the instructions for the nominators and the process for nominees and the applications are pdf on the bottom of registry page. >> have the pdf; right? >> i have one single request and suggestion the lower divisions so those that can't - they be referenced on the site for the assistance they can receive that be available for them so that they

can go to it would you tell us coming to you. >> a suggestion. >> and just to add to that so our conversation with the mayors and the board of supervisors staff is that also again that they're having conversation with the business or in the meantime, that is something they can reach out to us ahead of time we talked with the applicant to find the best equity to refer them to. >> all right. any other discussion on this item okay opening up for public comment anyone else from the public like to comment on this particular item concerning the legacy business rules and regulations. >> but it goes to show in my

opinion how bad it is necessary and i appreciate the question from the president because that was kind of clear of what he said the thing about it is i'm going to request i think that i'm number ten is the appropriate time because you know all of that you all talking about i was almost asleep i'd like to request for . >> r all those parties the thing as a person as me i have to go home and acknowledge things and breakdown but the bottom line only two or 3 things in the community how much money is available total money available okay. and the other thing i see all the department heads involved with the welcome to the people's palace and the small business commission and all those things the breaks down i have to go home and study and

come back here and come up and speak 3 minutes i'm tired of that and being ignored i'm going to invite and some of the in program come to any community i guess so innovative any community to a savings account to have dialogue and ask questions and have the commissioners there and the oewd the thing about it, it is getting over on the city and the communities to put all the programs and bring all the new people. >> and you don't know what is happening it is put together by the mayor's office and the welcome to the people's palace and the commissioners well, we're going not going to do this with the board of supervisors they're fighting amongst themselves on different issues that student government so i'm saying to you and i'm saying it very nice that's a good idea but

don't cutwater where i come from number one in order for us to benefit from and you you know what i'm talking about from the mission we need you to come to our community and insist you come to our community bring the board i don't think you've been outside of city hall but come out to the of him the first place so you can see we can tell you all all the businesses we have had and all the programs when necessary come out and sold us a bill of goods and you need to reinsure us what you're trying to do we know about it and you all trying to found out that's all i'm saying that's all i'm saying. >> any any public comment on

this item seeing none, closed item no. 7. >> so 7 and 8 i make a motion to postpone for the next meeting. >> august 8th. >> and we do need to take public comment. >> i support that. >> yes. >> before supporting it we need to take public comment under the continuing items. >> item 78 and i'll read seven and eight into the record. >> item 7 discussion and possible action to make recommendations for the permitted rules and regulationss to administrative code administrative code section 2a plus the legacy business assistance account this is a discussion and possible action item presented by virginia executive director of office of the small business commission and item number 8 discussion and

possible action to make recommendations for a proposed rules and regulationss to administer the administrative code 2a dot 243 the rent stabilizations and discussion and possible action presenter regina executive director office of the small business commission. >> now. >> okay we're going to deter the discussion nothing formal but only to have public comment on those two so if we agree we'll have further discussion on this next it went we've been asked by the office oewd to delay action and if no further comments opening up for public comment. >> to the city and county and the world on that television he helped to create number one the city and county here at the city hall you all confused the city government is under this

administration is fraying analyzed - we came and put together a recommendation that the oewd be breakdown and find out that nobody the departments don't know what is going on right now i can guarantee supervisors from one district to another and the departments to another department don't knows who is going on you're supposed to be ben the community as i'm sitting here since 3 o'clock i don't know what the hell you are doing because it is passed well, you do probably do but passed i welcome to the people's palace and passed by this mayor's office aoewd they don't have an other so you can shake they are

head mr. vice president i've been in city government over 25 years and been doing what i do i'm a master at what i do as a community activist shack your head all you want i've not been appointed you have the liquor he meet with the mayor and don't know what the hell they're doing your dissent like a puppet and it's been - you say jonas we're not going to do this and that but if the mayor calls you you'll do it don't talk about that that on tv that government channel was put together to see what you're doing and most people don't look at the channel but you talk about our reach in the western edition i'm going to do something not done before

i've reaching out to every business up and down fillmore they know ace on the case they know that ace on the case but don't recognize me because of the color of skin maybe because i get up here and am aggressive but i damn it i have to i get 2 minutes and put me down because community people and he guarantee next year they'll break it down to one minute i know how to work the system and could it to my advantage everyone efrnlt a fabulous testimony i'll speak to the values of the western edition and the administration and continues to do to us every agency and department i'm the czar of the outer mission. >> anyone wish to comment on this item. >> i make a motion to move item 7 and 8 to the augment

meeting. >> i port that. >> in favor. >> i. >> okay. >> that item passes 6 - >> to nothing with two absent. >> sorry. >> item 8 is on the agenda it must be opened up for public comment. >> we already did that we passed 7 and 8. >> we heard it together. >> i called seven and eight it together. >> item 9. >> approval the regular meeting minutes action item. >> a motion. >> oh, i have to july 11, 2016, draft minutes july 23, 2014, draft policy meeting minutes and april 2014 draft legislation and policy committee

meeting minutes. >> i move to approve. >> we need to take public comment before a motion. >> anyone wish to comment on item 9 a let me say this people are watching our body lack that you have a problem don't show it like that it is obvious i have a problem i want you to come out to my community and sit on this side to do we we have it do that didn't make you the bag of chips because your disrespecting our body language is unbecoming if you have that problem don't do it on television you ain't the only ones have a problem with you ever person in ever department has a problem with me i'm appalled of the attitude that is in this department here this setting

you, you, you unite seen nothing yet if you have a problem with me, i'm part of public if i'm the only public here respect and people when i represent you know what i'm appalled to go to an agency to have an agency with all of that body language is so appalling person i am saying things. >> we're talking about the minutes. >> listen don't disturb me on the public minutes. >> the requirement you have to - >> where is the damn minutes i've requested you say you don't have are those are the ones you are talking about i've provided you a schedule. >> you haven't gotten the minutes. >> well, let me say i'm you appalled with this agency and director i asked for minutes

when i last time when i came here i found out that the commissioner president dwight was not on there on the commission but i spoke on issues that needed the evidence that i haven't gotten the minutes yet and your director says well, we don't have the minutes we don't have the money and for the minutes i find that appalling if you don't have the minutes there is something wrong particularly we have a few minutes to talk about public comment and things not on see schedule that's where are the damn minutes i requested over two months ago when i spoke here and now all of a sudden you don't have them sound a watergate to me my name is ace and i'm on the case and i do not like to be disrespected by none i respect everyone particularly by you

guys poignant by mayor ed lee he used to work at the hrc and ace is working on a conspires why is the population going down. >> thank you. any other discussion on item 9 a i move. >> i second in favor that item passes 5 to zero two absent. >> okay. >> item number ten general public comment. >> to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. future consideration. >> my name is ace washington a

long time advocate for the city and county at city hall which i call silly hall i started with mayor ed lee permitted me into the pressroom as the original black african-american and i'm ready to go back in and now the question this agency this department in my opinion has at the moment violated some of having documents for the public that is your minutes now if this agency don't have the money or the staff to do that something is wrongs how in the hell will you handle small businesses you can't produce minutes and then try to play games on ace and could you be it is months that is totally unacceptable

this agency that has been gotten money how much you need more money maybe i can advocate for you to have your minutes on time i am appalled i need those minutes for what i'm doing in any community and about one of the former commissioners now you accident the right thing to do with when count commission from mission mission street recused himself and talked about the fillmore ma'am, what did they knew the information where to get the money but got a business that failed and didn't pay no rents for 5 or 6 or 8 years but business directly across the street with the fillmore center and costs hundreds of thousands of dollars where did they get that money but can't put back the money from the tax dollars that's something wrong with that

and i'm going to investigate it to the end so skiing is cooperation and every time i'm on television i mentioned the to the small business commission where do we have in the financial i'm going to keep on saying that take our tailbones to the fillmore and set up something if anything any french i know that supervisors say a f word plenty ever times i'm city politics full of tricks make you you turn both a lunatic this administration will be accountable from here on out because my name is ace and i'm on the case and have a good evening. >> mr. washington. >> yeah. >> yes. you can't say. >> okay. not -

>> like in the board of supervisors yes. you have the right to say something it you. >> you're out of order you're out of order. >> public comment is closed. thank you. >> you full of bs. >> next item 11. >> i want to do a quick recap of alecky the ordinance finally passed the mayor's tax increases passed on the first reading that item for the ballots supervisor tang's affordable housing bonus program that item passed and then also the oh,

other ordinance proposing the chang's of the make up of the sfmta board so and then before the - so those are the key things that pass and next the great honor to introduce to you our intern so for this summer alex fong and for full dloush but not the sole reason our intern he is committals commissioner yee-rileys nephew worked - to get us caught up on our minutes and the documents on the text and the app lyrics alex had a big part to collect that with that, i wanted to invite alex to say. >> few words. >> all right.

>> good afternoon. my name is alexander fong a senior in boston university studying business are a dual marketing and finance and a summer intern and working with the legislative reach with the new methods and look forward to working on the small businesses center and gain a better understanding how the legislation effects the small business. >> have you worked in city hall. >> no. >> a new experience. >> (laughter). >> i have a question about the minutes have i been working on minutes. >> some of the more recent minutes i think that it is a very good experience. >> and quality of the minutes is quite high thank you for your

contribution. >> thank you thanks alex and then again, a point of clarification with public comment we can't say engage in conversation with an individual in public comment if there's a clarification needed but not engage in a conversation so information. >> that's what i had i had a technical question. >> so just so you know heed invited the office and had a conversation about a set schedule we're meeting in producing the minutes. >> yeah. okay. >> so a matter of public record and the status of our projects to get permits. >> and, of course, our meeting he attended is