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first stop when you have a question about what to do next and it is the meeting. >> call to order and roll call commissioner vice president adams commissioner dooley commissioner president dwight commissioner ortiz-cartagena commissioner tour-sarkissian commissioner yee-riley commissioner zouzounis is absent today, mr. president, you have quorum. >> all right. item 2. >> item two discussion and possible action on this board of supervisors file planning code medical service sacramento street neighborhood commercial integrity ordinance for the planning code to probably a change of use from a professional use to a medical use on the first floor on the sacramento commercial district affirming the declaration in the california environmental quality act and making findings of consistency with the general plan and the 8 policies of the

planning code section and finding of the public convenience and welfare under the section discussion and possible action item are presenters are liv legislative aide at the office of supervisor mark farrell thank you. >> one moment let me turn on your microphone. >> okay. go ahead. >> good afternoon commissioner president dwight and members of the commission i'm a legislative aide to supervisor farrell the item before you is an ordinance by supervisor farrell it is a planning code engagement to prohibit the change of use from a professional service to a medical use on the first year or below in the sacramento street sacramento mcd a small-scale commercial districts with medical uses it runs among

sacramento street from spruce to lion and medical officers and concerns that wralt and more active uses are replaced by medical uses they're prohibited on all floors except the business or professional services converted to medical at the going once, going twice with the u this change is in effect and the legislative fact to stop the active use use streets for the professional to medical services is essentially a conversion from office to office and not detrimental to retail active on the center the this is problematic as now the neighborhood is experiencing some businesses that are attempting to become business and professional services only to then convert to medical services that creates a pathway for the medical services not the intent so at this point

supervisor farrell introduced to legislation to close the loophole and working with the city departments for the future neighborhood commercial overall to look at the right balance all over the place and better way to regulated what kind of uses phenomenon the commercial district this ordinance a neighborhood driven and hope we can count on our support thank you for having me. >> you mentioned neighborhood support for this is this a neighborhood initiated. >> it is. >> what, if any opposition has there been. >> there has not been. >> yeah. >> based on the one person. >> does this preclude medical cannabis medical cannabis is a spirit used by the proximity of schools yeah. >> commissioners any questions or comments

no? okay. seeing none anyone wish to comment on item number this item please come forward >> yes. ace on the case and talk about this that is have parallel to other things i'm from the fillmore we call is the feeling no more than more with a cvd or other things that the community has we don't have neighborhood black businesses now i came to the commission maybe six or eight or 9 months ago four or five months requesting you to come to the fillmore to find out what i'm saying we have one individual well, i may be one individual but speaking for any community i may be one individual but i am the czar of the out exhibition i may be one individual but i'm the fulsome corridor ambassador

but i'm here to say if this commission has failed us mysteriously and had the aau sedate to hold this speaking 13 hundred. >> ace that is about. >> i'm speaking particularly if you let people go to the board of supervisors and let me continue i say i'm speaking in parallel. >> and i'm here to say what the hell is happening to you all when i come down to the this the director the last time we don't have the minutes you say you don't have the staff what the hell with you in the business it if you don't have the moments about used to be your

commissioner she was the vice president only two businesses on fillmore one not paying a damn dime and over one thousand dollars where in will world to do what she's done with our commissioners there was one of your commission what is going on with this city my name is ace and i'm on the case and i'll be speaking when i get a chance but now i'm talking particularly you're taking about cvd we don't have a cvd or a cac nothing but me, i'm the fillmore corridor ambassador if you don't want to recognize that thank you for allowing me to speak i created the government channel and be at every meeting and let the world know what is happening in the fell no more the mayor

counted out in 2011 and after that business that clotted do you think they were black i'm representing the black community. >> thank you. >> anyone else like to comment on that particular item please - thank you. >> good afternoon commissioner president dwight and commissioners i'm tracey i'd like to speak to the top us. >> in parallel so i'm a small business owner in sacramento street and had a business antics no problem for 5 years and president of the sacramento street merchants association and have been pour the past 3 years my goal in the business

community to bring together the merchant and promote safety so for everyone including the people that come to the neighborhood and trying to create for o more traffic for the district and more appealing for anyone to come and visit us things come and go and businesses close for different reasons we have a charming business district one of the strengths we add to the city what we have to offer, however, i've been challenged i had to leave any business to come here in the middle of the day to actually try to promote the very viable needs to protect small businesses you would think that is built into everything we're trying to do but 23468 i think that because reality is so challenging in the city the

small business district are appealing 09 types of businesses we find ourselves having to occasionally be challenged and protect what those neighborhoods are about so as a small business owner as someone that is trying hard to create a great a business district that you know maintains part of viable for years and years to come we need to make sure this little loophole is closed so that i don't have to find myself constantly defending the commercial district with great retail businesses a lot folks that common i'm a pro change but i find myself not wanting to have the gaps of lack of traffic and businesses closed because of traffic we're seeing more and more of and to such a degree

that people are disappointed when they start seeing and longer a longer gap so i just wanted to put that in front of you and also a member of the neighborhood board the association neighbors and your current president bill is away on family vacation so couldn't be here our former president charley he's away as well so just one quick note just our goal with the presidio heats association to have only businesses and services on the ground floor we realize that's a simple statement we're hoping that you'll support us and close that loophole thank you. >> thank you. any anyone wish to comment on item number on this item seeing none, commissions. >> any comments. >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena i'm familiar with the corridor when i used to be in parking at

the laurel land i know sacramento street and the corridor i understand there is a lot of medical facilities large medical facilities and axiliary medical supplies a natural fit you can't compete with large institutions like this so i commend you and thank you for taking time out of your day to come here. >> commissioiner vice president adams i wanted to second this is straight up legislation i totally will support it tracey you've going done a great job with sacramento and wanting until you came and opened up your shooting shop you made an different especially on saturday a thanksgiving. >> serve as an example for all

business districts cvd are organized by the citizens in them so not falling on the government to formulate the businesses do we have a motion. >> i move second. >> in favor. >> i. >> i. >> that item passes 6 to zero one absent. >> thank you. >> awesome thank you for coming out appreciate it. >> may be one less time you'll have to do it. >> keep on doing it. >> all right. item 3 presentation and possible action on the board of supervisors file initiative ordinance tax regulations and administrative code on the taxing of the affordable housing and homeless services business registration

and reductions motion submitted at the voter to be held on november 8th and ordinance amending the tax regulation code and administrative code to reduce the business registration fee on persons with one million dollars in gross receipt and impose a new one .5 percent in companies dwaengd in the city with affordable housing and homeless services and increasing the decided appropriation limit by the amount of tax from november 8th to section and discussion and possible action nicholas of the office of supervisor mar but due to family emergency not able to attend commissioners you're welcome to have discussion. >> it's not clear if this stem will end up on the ballot i think that is worthwhile for us if we want to discuss it and

perhaps make a statement policy statement from this office so i my thing is not working commissioiner vice president adams. >> if anyone for public comment or make a motion. >> okay so open up for public comment if anyone has any public comment on the tech tax please step forward. >> yes. circle on this item parallel to what you're talking about you're talking about the cvd and all the extra things in the community i'm here to say parallel the fillmore which i call the field no more have none of those entities the city and

county you started a cvd and close it for corruption we closed others businesses for corruption and now have nothing but me myself and i ac e the fillmore ambassador i want you to respect that i'm not one african-american standing up talking with shades on in any community over thirty years anticipate served it before this department was put together your current director was ross and she know dog on right what i'm talking about that's why i'm frustrated i came to her and trying to find out what the heck is going on you have a board member ms. white not only that the vice president but the vice president had all the information so you all going to tell me as a small business administrator how does one open up a business when you have a corrupt business

across the street where is that in america only san francisco so your commission is responsible for everything i'm bringing up here every week until you come to the western edition to the fillmore and do a tour with a business meeting my request as a fillmore corridor ambassador come to the western edition and hold a meeting and the talk about small businesses and tell you and show you without a doubt we have nun they're corrupt that is run by the city and county of san francisco now i am spanking you on your wrists but then in writing and above our head what the hell is going on you have a director that knows and x commissioners yet we in the fillmore don't have no black businesses every other business is flushing

and as in fact, we don't have none to work and that will stop under any regime anyone that is listening to the tv station i helped to create the san francisco government channel due forgot it my name is ace and i'm on the case and i am the fillmore corridor ambassador and speaking whether you like it or not. >> any members of the public that would like to comment on that item seeing none, commissioners. >> i'd like to make a statement i'd like to sense this is going to the board of supervisors i'd like to to say the small business commission opposes the lobbying of payroll tax and any businesses in the city and county of san francisco and 2012 san francisco voters

approved a replacement of payroll taxes with gross receipt taxed for all businesses and that's in the middle of a 5 year transition plan not writing implementation of the selected payroll stations is inconsistent with the legislation approved in 2012 so i'd like to put that forward as a motion saying that i know we should be opposed to it. >> as a policy statement thank you. >> commissions any comments thank you sorry my thing is not working. >> no comments. >> okay would anyone like to second that motion. >> i'll second. >> okay. >> okay. >> read the motion back again. >> go ahead and read back. >> the proposed motion is the

small business commission opposes las vegasing a payroll on any business in the city and county of san francisco in 2012 san francisco voters approved the payroll gross receipt for all businesses and that 5 year transition plan is now in process implementation of a selective payroll is inconsistent with the payroll in necessarily shall we roll call vote. >> okay. >> commissioiner vice president adams commissioner dooley no. >> commissioner president dwight commissioner ortiz-cartagena commissioner tour-sarkissian. >> commissioner yee-riley commissioner zouzounis is absent okay this item passes 4 to two with one absent. >> all right. on to item number 4 >> item 4

discussion and possible action on letter of support regarding the preservation in valencia and discussion and possible action item and your presenter will be commissioner ortiz-cartagena. >> commissioner president dwight i request to obtain stain from any possible action since i'm presenting and on the advisory board with the sfmta and all the stakeholder. >> so we need to have a motion and second and a vote of approval for - well, not an abstention but a rule i motion we recuse commissioner ortiz-cartagena from this presentation is since he's presenting. >> second. >> and we need to take a vote on it. >> to recuse commissioner ortiz-cartagena from voting on

this item okay roll call or. >> in favor. >> i that that item passes. >> at the time of the action to remove of us and and for the passage in favor commissioner ortiz-cartagena and the number that passing 5 to zero one absent and one recused and then well, he wasn't recused - actually he takes action on this he's not officially recuse. >> the motion passes 6 to zero one absent. >> all right. and then also for additional information from the sfmta is here in case nor detailed information you may need on that particular topic. >> all right. susan. >> commissioner president

dwight thank you for having me. i'm here today representing representative as a small business owner and long rent born and raised of mission district and have a letter drafted as our president says have it in writing so drafted a letter hope you'll agree how it effects small business and let me start by reading so i would like to urge that we support a process to make an informal process when was middle parking with the delores to be a form process let me even if review the letter we support memoranda parking with the mission corridor after a year the stakeholders reached a contention to allow for the continuation of memoranda park with agreed on modifications, however, the new residents not

familiar with the route of the culture traditions of the neighborhood have so you get to accomplish the process one stakeholder which was by the way, myself was absent given the parking with the majorities voted against the agreed upon proposal not only an additional obstacle for those who come to the neighborhood for gashthsdz by the small businesses in the corridor will be harmed the longtime organizations if the mission are chord tenants with the regional shops and before returning to their homes outside the city with gentrification and displacement few have opportunity to visit the mission and not found in chain stores - the memoranda parking has been more difficult for customers who rely on private transportation

to complete such shopping trips particularly for consumers and those who purchase a large volume of merchandise and medium parking is an inconvenience but people are being displaced from the neighborhoods because of nutrition u gentrification those preserve the traditions the ability for customers to revisit and transport the good idea to their homes is essential for the connects of longer customers given the skaters of the public parking it operationally is a viable option in essence i want to say look those institutions were expanded in a commenced neighborhood and been the anchor tenants when the mission was dangerous new residents have a right and now have been adapted

the mission district and the small business corridor is a regional corridor with a lot of ethnic businesses and medium parking constitutes a primary reason those people traveled into san francisco and the mission district not only this is a gentrification but to small businesses small businesscan't you to agree the reason that was vote against i the equalizing vote had a familiar emergency and this is public information where the minutes were recorded and are posted on sfgov website. >> has the mta in - are they in

agreement with our plan to i mean have you worked a plan to accommodate their need. >> for over the year they were the facilitator and everyone in the community came and this practice is an informal practice that let the stakeholders to make it a formal practice those institutions understand that the committee was an inclusionary they know what the residents wanted and say we've been here before california existed some institutions were here before san francisco were so they tried and we did come up with a process and sfmta facilitated letting us know you know given us idea for a strurtsd process so as a result what you're asking for it is median parking

that is permit during a timespan on a sunday or - >> correct we came to the contention come up with a formal process that is something that is happening informally to make everybody happy on all sides. >> commissioners, any questions. >> this is going on as long as i remember in the mission and always worked and . >> and it happens in other neighborhoods that are more influential i would like to say politically perhaps so it is funny that a community that has been gentrified out and small business english as a second language are targeted that's the greatest impact regarding this proposal. >> i have a question has been the case for many, many years on sunday's; correct?

>> yeah. >> specially on van ness when did this practice stop. >> it's not stopped. >> so the same an delores street; correct? >> correct. >> does the present practice violate parking code. >> not enforced. >> so, yeah. >> so instead of making again an informal process we're like hey stakeholders make that formal and listen to everything whether you live here two or three years a lot of the oldest stakeholders want to view the community and urban design part of the process there was a consensus that was reached to formalize the parking and the business community is in favor of this formalization. >> we had a letter of support from henry i can't say.

>> yeah. >> so the merchant corridors are in favor. >> okay just to be clear other than subpoenaed where or what are the other days you're trying to legalize parking. >> and john from the sfmta when it comes to specific but technically sunday and a few other times friday evening arrest saturday it is specific and it is very directed to help those institutions draw the constituents. >> and you have the support of businesses for this. >> yes. >> and the institutions that are technically nonprofits to have a great vacuum of constituency that outweighs the constituents but want to be supportive of everybody in the process. >> without the churches where delores heights or so in the western edition the churches or pacific heights the double parking on sunday and special

holidays and stuff is permitted and the city worked with that and you know granted they never enforced it but been a helping out of the - you know is helped everybody a no-brainer. >> i know there is agreement in others neighborhoods with during the course so good for you. >> the situation new resident call for enforcement of the parking restrictions. >> yeah. but part of the progress and the consensus plan we present to the board of sfmta they voted away i wasn't there so they would like to borrows

the current situation regarding parking. >> what were the objections. >> that your parked illegally here in medium and causes the traffic it is an inconvenience. >> did you say that they're still negative impact on the traffic. >> i mean i'm not a traffic person but like commissioner vice president adams said is it so happening before the existence in that community i don't want to say it didn't create congestion but for small businesses congestion is a good thing in a sense we want the volume of traffic in the community. >> okay well should we hear in the mta representative briefly. >> good afternoon. thank you

i'm john i'm a planner at mta. >> hi john. >> in the committee i didn't come with is prepared presentation at all but i guess speaking to a couple of the comments you know this is been a very contentious issue within the neighborhood for a number of years commissioner ortiz-cartagena is correct the parking is gone on for decades we have records of complaints filed about that practice for many, many years and as he rightfully said parking enforcement is deprioritized fewer parking control officers and most of work in the court the parking problems are more important we will cite safety issues we did - did do a bunch of

community outreach definitely true the people that live in the neighborhood have fairly strong opinions we've not finalized the question does mta have is a proposal we've not finalized one but hopefully to the boards on the 16 in the survey of residents we find about 50 percent would be willing to find a fair everybody can park solution 74 percent wants to see the parking go away go together i want to be careful, you know, we had a what appeared to be a developing consensus among the committee members as we went through the - as rightfully said the 4 to 3 vote with one person not there

in favor of the parking and one committee rules for adopt a recommendation so the committee is not come to an official recommendation. >> is the committee going to vote against. >> we did the san francisco neighborhood services & safety committee went to reconvene so have all the people vote and the members that voted in the park indicated they're not interested in participating. >> okay. so so for in your evaluation did it represent a safety issue. >> i think. >> the perspective of the mta. >> the committee identified a number of issues caused by the medium parking we saw an expert data and analysis the safety was one issue we found potential safety issues recommended to

cars that park up to the intersection that block the visibility of people we're talking about and biking and late at the night there is if you're not technically supposed to park there sometimes for cars up until 4 in the morning that means someone in driving in delores they - >> so one place the committee in its final recommendation attempt recommendation had completed agreement whatever happens with the parking that is formalized pull back from the corners for voishth and the fire department is waterproofing in agreement to changing others parking practices. >> okay. >> were there statistics about problems or accidents a record for . >> no record we did a we hear

aspires about cars hitting you know definitely have been collisions we did a collision review we didn't find a pattern that suggested that somehow on sunday cars were parked there that go collisions happen for people walking that type of - and i have a question subject to those elements on the corner and lots that were issues were addressed did you say that it can be safe to park in the middle and yes. i believe that's our position and second since you're the expert in dealing with the businesses it is beneficial to both sides; correct? to have this parking allow certain hours of day. >> the feedback that i think one of the issues that's glonts years the - there's been an

idea people parking there is going to church that is unfair bend the process people parking an delores with were going to church but in the afternoon to the shops the general feeling all the shops benefit from people being able to park on the medium and the commissioner mentions to be formalized and clearly formalized everyone is allowed to be there probably not 100 percent any group of people agree on anything but most of them seem to be supportive. >> one final question you may have said it just to be clear what's the next step for dallas fort worth the restrictions and allowing the next step. >> our anticipated next step we'll put together a formal

proposal for the board i'll say it likely will be for delores tooiptd we're having conversations and we'll be taking it to the extension at this point in time to our board on august 16th. >> so the fact the vote - commissioner ortiz-cartagena since that an inclusive review you'll look at >> thank you thank you very much for coming today. >> commissioner - i'm sorry did you have a question. >> come back. >> commissioner yee-riley has a question. >> is this thing not working again. >> it is. >> john thank you for your presentation and also you talk about the next step so what about are you looking at the time limits for people that are

able to park there. >> same car will not be there the whole day. >> yeah. probably the easiest way when we come forward we thought the committee developed into a commenced proposal we were trying to avoid mta to approve this we worked through that and at this time it was limiting the hours on delores and the question to allow friday nights life enrichment committee where that currently happening not limiting - limiting to certain hours on friday nights and serve the businesses and saturday morning and most of day on supdz we've not talked about two hour parking or any sort of

you can only park for a certain number of hours that's not been the conversation at this point in time. >> i think that is beneficial for the businesses because they're available for other customers. >> that's a very good point we're proposing to bring forward on the 16 to the board meeting not a specific proposal but we're asking them to provide approval or direction on a direction do we want to formalize or get rid of it we want to hour the committees work so i think that's a great point wears getting direction to find a way to formalize the parking that's to be routine by the planning commission, and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote important conversation. >> did you you talk with the churches about i know that sometimes 2 hour time limit can be short for them i hope you - >> give them enough. >> 8 member committee and met

monthly with a larger group of churches and synagogues to talk about the issues again, we didn't talk about the time limits if this is something we'll pursue but talk about that with the churches. >> first step determine if you'll move forward or not. >> thank you very much commissioners any other things or open up for public comment okay anyone wish to comment on item number this item. >> one moment please we have a speaker card we'll call those in order. >> good afternoon commissioner president dwight and commissioners my name is a mr. kim the pastor

of corner stone church, i appreciate the opportunity to share the one that john led again kudos to john for facilitating a challenging issue four almost a year nature briefing i represent a church that parks only guerrero on both sides and if you've never drivenl through that the church we've been working with we fully release it is - given the level of traffic not an issue we also have the informal guidelines we've received from the sfmta and identified volunteers and coned off the areas and leave a couple of parking spaces on the medium for the left hand and we

are as responsible as we can as a matter of fact i'm the one that called the mta to ticket our church members that stated too long on guerrero but as part of committee i do want to request that the commissioners support the letter and a formalizing this is one of the contention issues because of the ine informal clarity we can and can't park here and involved guerrero as well as delores and i'll say if i lived on delorsaw or two cars we're requesting i support this potential issue to formalize what happens on the sunday and we're working with the judiciously synagogue and

realized this impacts the city and as church of 2000 people and almost 15 hundred on a weekly basis we believe we bring a strong customer base to the mission district we know a lot of the businesses and restaurants and also as william suggested whoops. >> our church has been there thirty plus years at a time when there was not a hip place to be or favorable place we recognize a number of people that moved out and this is a provides availability for those to come into the city. >> thank you for coming out and talking about. >> any other speaker cards. >> next is ace washington. >> first of all, i want to apologize i was aggressive you

have to realize commissioner recused himself if the mission street and been there many, many years same thing i thought born and raised in the fillmore and felt you had a commissioner on your board that shellfish recommended the fillmore i don't know when you talked about issues in the fillmore you should recuse unifying but i'd like to know and perhaps need to find out maya angelou let me say i apologize if you feel i'm aggressive i have been called many things but a community activists born and raised in the fillmore you talk about gentrification if you been to the fillmore the gentrification it is and the body language let me say one thing i'm going to ask on the way you react to me,

i'm an individual in the fillmore i'm going to speak on item 10 and request you come to our community and see if i get a nice response and talking about the fillmore and then not have to come up and give up and actor as angle activist i've been called a lot of things here and revolutionary no i'm a visionary i've been in the community many years from the user renewable we know as urban renewable you don't give a damn about it i'll talk about small businesses on the tenth item. >> members of the public like to comment on this item seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners we have any more comments. >> motion in support of letter

to the sfmta that william read earlier. >> i second that motion. >> okay roll call vote. >> all right. >> the motion is to support the letter commissioiner vice president adams commissioner dooley commissioner president dwight commissioner ortiz-cartagena is recused commissioner tour-sarkissian commissioner yee-riley commissioner zouzounis is absent that that item passes 5 to zero with one absent and one recused excellent. >> okay all right. item number 5 an update. >> item 5 update on the legacy business deduction item your presenter is richard legacy business program manager. >> welcome richard.

>> thank you good work richard legacy business program manager i'm slick rick i'm here asked at the last san francisco small business commission to come forward on a presentation with the legacy business and where we are and heading so i have a july 2016 report in your packet and have a slide presentation. >> as of july 20th we've received 78 pneumonia and 26 applications and 9 of the applications have been reviewed by the historic preservation commission and 10 applications are currently in review by the historic preservation commission the 9 applications reviewed by the historic preservation commission were reviewed by the

commission on the 20th of july i have them listed on slide number 3 and is 10 applications currently in review will be coming before the commission on the 3rd of august and they're ten of those listed on slide number 4 >> i'm going to take a few moments to talk about the highlights additional items in the report but those r some of the highlights and the slide is the majority of where we've been and take a few moms in april of 2015 the legacy was established and a secretary hired and august 28, 2015, the commission secretary was the secretaries last day

october 2015 the application was completed and received our first nomination november 2017 prop j passed april of this year commission secretaries first day after 8 months vacant and development the process and updated the instructions and posted on the website. >> on june 21st our first line applications were sent to the historic preservation commission and july 5th was my fizzed day and we added chinese and tagalog to the registry page and july 10th we sent 10 applications to the historic preservation commission and july 20th the first 9 applications were read by the historic preservation commission and on august 8th the 9 applications approved by the

historic preservation commission were come before the small business commission we have created a calendar to show the deadlines for the applications based on the historic preservation commission and the small business commission hearing dates if this commission decided to extend the business assistant grant application to december 15th which is what we're proposing the deadline for applications is october 3rd and that will give us a few more opportunities between now and then to get operations to the historic preservation commission. >> i have a quick question for the business legacy not the assistants; correct? >> this is for the registry that's correct. >> i have a question about the

deadlines what do they - >> the historic preservation commission has thirty days to review the applications siding the second column is thirty days before the thirds column and thought that is prudent to give the legacy business program staff two weeks to rusts applications to so the first column is before the second column to give us time to review the information. >> actually what you mean not a set deadline we're taking the commission the historic preservation commission and then setting a date two weeks earlier. >> yep. >> as. >> yeah. as a recommendation we highly recommend to us by the third and the actual deadline to the historic preservation commission on the second column so we're working with that most

importantly. >> benefits the legacy business program we have a business assistant grant for all registers and grants $500 per employee for june 30th and we expect up to one hundred ftes we expect 60 to 75 recipients and extending the deadline. >> can you clarify the first bullet for all registers for people on the registry versus the landlord so the next grant. >> potentially vail. >> yes potentially vail. >> let's be clear on the same

ticks. >> we mutt keep the expectation mark farrell be registered on the registry didn't domicile you to a grant it makes you eligible to apply a grant. >> and just also point of conversation for the second step that is to get the grant we are going to be setting some deadlines and working towards them. >> guidelines and deadlines and applications. >> if i may take a quick moment the calendar that rick presented with this calendar let's see on the power point part of - because we want to insure that when we get to

dealing with the ability to be able to administrator the preservation grant we can clearly community to the applicants that if they want to participate in the 16, 17 grant circle the deadline they need to insure if they're interested in participating the deadlines they need to insure they're a legacy business registry application is submitted to the office for us to be able to process it in time them to be on the registry for them to meet the grant filings. >> okay. >> on bullet number 2 grants equal to $500 that's a grant a maximum grant equal to $5; correct? not automatic. >> not automatic. >> an mainstream that can be up to and not to exceed $500 per

ftes and again, i'm just trying to clarify so people don't immediately start calculating their grant based on the number of ftes times 5 hundred that's not the case it is dependent how many requests and your ability to distribute a limited sum of money to a group that will likely over describe that fund so maybe less than $500. >> ; is that correct. >> i apologize for the miss language. >> the power points sometimes there's shorter language and sometimes not a good thing. >> i want to clarify that is the place to do it. >> i appreciate that and the stabilization grants those are for landlords that do the estimation of 10 years and the wording from the legislation on the power point

grant will equal 450 up to $4.50 up to a maximum of 4 hundred and we estimate that. >> i have a question. >> r or do we estimate to accommodate them. >> yes. >> the estimates come from the budget we've received and trying to get. >> rough. >> this is not an estimate of the number of people we think will apply for the grant stabilization our ability to meaningfully distribute. >> it is a little bit of both. >> i think in terms of the what we're looking at as we're righting the budget number is the actual outlet of the property owners interested in signing a 10 year lease and then those that will be

extending their lease to a total of 10 years i mean it would be an under estimations with the terms of the applicant with their leases that it is more of an kind of an estimations of those property owners the actuality of property owners engaging in a 10 year lease and communications with the investment neighborhood teams that with work a lot of the businesses as they're trying to secure leases or new leases the conversation they're having with property owners. >> the $4.50 per year or month. >> per year. >> and that should be note