planning commission regular hearing for thursday, august 4, disruptions of any kind. proceedings. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. i'd like to call roll at this time. commissioner president fong commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore and commissioner wu

we do expect commissioner vice president richards and commissioner johnson to arrive shortly commissioners, the first item on your agenda is consideration of items proposed for continuance item one at the pennsylvania avenue is proposed to september 15, 2016, and commissioners we do receive a late request from supervisor campos to continue items 11 ab on fulsome street i'll leave it up to you if you want to take up that matter now or when the item is called in the normal course of business and i ask we take it up not now but in the natural order. >> then the one item commissioners for pennsylvania i have no speaker cards. >> >> by public comment on the items proposed for

continuan continuance. >> to the 2655 fulsome street. >> and that's not on the. >> that's the items for continuance. >> i gave the option to the commissioners, if we want to take. >> i thought you asked for comment whether or not to take it up or not. >> is there any additional public comment? >> for the items proposed for continuance not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> i move to continue. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion to september 15th commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and places under your

consent calendar are considered to be routine may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. item two case 2016 at the 1977 b union street conditional use authorization and item 3 at ocean avenue conditional use authorization and item 4 case at the post street and polk street conditional use authorization. >> any public comment on the items proposed for calendar

not seeing any, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini. >> move to approve second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion then to approve items under content commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and under consideration item 5 consideration of adoption of draft minutes for the july joint and regular hearing any public comment on the minutes not seeing any, public comment is closed. commissioner moore. >> moapprove. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion to adopt the minutes commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner moore commissioner wu commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to

zero and places you on item 6 commissioners questions or comments. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. the commissioners should have been in receipt of information i sent them produced by pablo of the planning department staff on earlier information he provided on the percentage or number of units built in both the eastern neighborhoods and the mission district those that have been entitled and those that are under construction as a percentage of the preferred option and also he went into the amount of pdr space that has been converted since the passage of eastern neighborhoods as a percentage of the option c that is what the planning commission approved in 2008,

so, anyway this is even more emphatic and factored out the projects that had been approved prior to the eastern neighborhoods eir krunthd that distorted making it look like more built and pdr change concurring so after that was done came up with fingers figures of less than one percent of the allowable pdr that was analyzed in the eastern neighborhoods plan for the mission has been taken out of pdr that is important as we go forward with projects we may hear today to realize what the true facts and in terms of units built on this 13 percent of that analyzed under the preferred plan that is a lower number of units i believe it is approximately 21 hundred units

on the preference plan i'm not sure of that exact figure it is only about 13 percent of these that have been built and when you consider those entitled and those under construction it is still only about thirty percent so there will be - you also analyzed those that pooled the initial ville papers but that is a much larger number as we know pulling the papers and getting a project approved a long road until that happens the point of this discussion is that we have to know what the facts are when we are talking about issues involving the mission district but all the eastern neighborhoods in terms of how much is entitled or built i also had a very good discussion with enrique a well

common economist from the of us and talked about the relationship between new housing and rental prices their versely proportion and pointed two examples from 3 cities and picked out cities that are boom there was a lot of technology and new residents coming out them and big pressures on the existing hours boston, texas seattle washington and california and boston did the best they built the most new housing and their register prices fell the most and seattle did middle ground rental prices stated stable maybe fell the san

francisco did the worse their prices have increased dramatically in the exist housing as i mentioned so little built we can't assess the effects of what is built in san francisco particularly the mission district so, so little has been built and inconsistent with his analysis buildings little housing has the effect of driving up rental prices that make sense we also had a little bit of discussion that was exacerbated by the rent control we're not talking about the whether or not it is a good or bad thing people will stay in rent-controlled units because the prices are relatively stable regardless of income levels many leaves a smaller existing amount of housing units that more people excessive for there are few units on the market every

year as a result of people moving out of their existing units self-defense more pronunciations in san francisco especially the fact we're not building enough new housing so i really appreciate the work that was done by pedro petersen and the gentleman has copies of those figures and will be available to the public and all the other commissioners have those and another couple of things just while i'm at it from 2009 to 2015 of the people that move forward from the mission district existing residents 2/3rd's 65 percent relocated within san francisco it a significant number we don't know exactly where the others went or still have jobs in the city or whether they did or closer to jobs in the areas they live in

to absent statistics from that that is an important thing to know about and also during that same period of time we that period he said on 13 percent of housing that was analyzed under the preferred mission plan built in the mission 37.3 percent was affordable housing so much of what we built is affordable but really built not enough market-rate to satisfactory and satisfy the huge numbers of residents that come into the mission district and can out price the existing residences and that figure of the 37.3 didn't exclude the one and 34100 percent unit we've passed at the 2070 fulsome that figure is probably higher it should give

us a good background for the discussions we will have today and next week and future weeks in regards to housing issue thank you very much. >> okay commissioners, thank you one item i have i want to acknowledge commissioner moore for serving on the civic design committee for a number of years and since stepped off of serving that term i look at you individually about which seat from the planning commission from our group we'll take that seat largo because great skills and concerns for the city and design commissioner hillis along with his longest tenure right now on this commission he'll accept that seat and serve on that committee for us so congratulations to you and thank you commissioner moore. >> commissioner wu. >> commissioners next week

i'll be at a community development conference in detroit and so today will be my last planning commission meeting i'm not one for big speeches but should say a couple of works i was sworn in four and a half years ago at a hotel it was a deliberate choice to honor the struggles of the chinese-american and this is the 39 evictions of the hotel so it is fitting i came to the work because of the work i do in chinatown because of a commitment to working with grassroots folks on land use issues i've had the pleasure to work now with the mission and the tenderloin and bayview and many neighborhoods that's been a blessing in learning about the city i'm very thankful for working with you commissioner

president fong and we served as passenger seat and vice president that was a wonderful partnership working with director rahaim, and jonas thank you for your all your support and staff i think that we can continue to push the boundaries here about planning and using the land use tools as a way to think about social justice i'll push every single staff person and commissioner to think about that i will continue to be working on all the issues and see all of you so with that thank you. >> thank you and congratulations and looking forward to you're next endeavors nonprofit world or volunteer. >> commissioner moore. >> in the order of commissioner wu thank you it has been a pleasure and inspiring you helped raise the awareness the affordable housing

and the knowledge to be open and sensitive and fight for it as you have i will miss you for many reasons including that one on a sober note i want to ask the commission to close today's hearing in america of north beach activists the journalist and a person with a proufbd knowledge of the history of the waterfront and the port she pass away on monday at the age ever 87 she vigilantely watched what we did for years and years and years she showed up here sometime with a consistent voice and will be deeply missed at the age of 87 it was time for her to and goodbye i ask we close and a last comment i'm very happy to

commissioner hillis to step on the design it is time consuming their meeting time getting longer and longer they meet on this once a month but got to be prepared (laughter). >> so here another pile like this ever once a month after two years i had to step off it gets a lot of extra work have fun. >> you can handle it. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i'd like to echo the comments of commissioner moore it's been wonderful work with commissioner wu we'll gridlock miss her we'll see her in the future continuing her good works professionally and she's been very pollutant to work with and responsible and hard working so thank you. >> commissioner vice president

richards. >> i just wanted to say thank you very much for everything you've taught me explicit have anything prepared i scam hereafter serving you've opened my eyes to other issues i've legend more away from where i was i wish you all the success and look forward to read about you in the newspaper. >> commissioner hillis. >> echo thanks to commissioner wu she's taught us a lot i've seen the commission in action before i was a commissioner you've kind of lead the charge in making this commission productive in tackling some of the issues so thank you that and what you've taught us. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to thank you and sorry to see

you go commissioners department matters drourments. >> commissioners in department report guarantee i thought i'll have one more week to say goodbye add any thanks to the commissioners you'll taught the department a lot i admire and appreciate you've pushed us to broaden the scope in the planning department and a lot of us have taken that to heart he appreciate and hope you'll keep on pushing us i certainly hope we'll stay in contact over the years thank you very much. >> item 8 review of past events at the board of supervisors there was no board of appeals hearing and the historic preservation commission good afternoon aaron starr, manager, legislative affairs. commissioner on the land use was a resolution imposing the

interim controls for the castro and conditional use authorization for pharmacies it was heard and forwarded to the full board with a positive recommendation and sdprrmz sdrmz to require the conditional use authorization for conversion of pdr institutional community uses and arts act it is in response to a ballot that will achieve the same thing from the controller the item was continued through the chair at the full board the wireless communications facilities ordinance sponsored by supervisor avalos passed second reading and the appeal of the environmental determination and the continual use authorization for 20002070 bryant street was continued next was a hearing and

consideration of an initiative that will require the pdr with cu it was sponsored by supervisor kim 8 members of the public that spoke in favor and the vote places the item on the ballot with some dissenting and finally the castro street for the pharmacies and medical use was unanimously adopted in introductions this week that concluded my report. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. what sort of effect would the proposed initiative on the pdr have in regards to the eastern neighborhood controls would that take precedent if it was passed or revisit the eastern neighborhoods are have to be restrictions made that is

a lot because - and building the voter initiative will trump that. >> seems to be fairly focused i'm wondering legally how the two. >> that's my understanding. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to as state the board of appeals didn't meet last night or yesterday the historic preservation commission did meet it essentially had two items on the calendar but important specifically made adapted recommendations for the legacy business registry applications and maybe most notely the relaxation i didn't theatre was included with the gas station. >> general public comment commissioners not to exceed 15 at this time, members of the public may address the commission to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction

of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. i do have westbound speaker card. >> any general public comment ms. hester okay. >> go ahead. >> good afternoon, commissioners president of middle polk neighborhood associations wanted to make a couple of comments first with respect to expanding bars and whatnot in our neighborhoods we just wanted the commission to know that with every application we meet with the respective bar owners we you know take care of to see if there is good community partners and not right thing to do there was an item on content i'll not go get both the

details since this is general public comment but let you know that lower polk neighborhoods cvd reviewed that in full one hundred support and in particular because the space was small and it was taking over a fringe financial establishment next year that has sorts of concerns the other comment i wanted to make we're starting to see small projects throughout our neighborhood and adjourning neighborhoods where parking rancho's ratios are creeping up one to one not on the larger projects that we have longer hearings about that often there is big fights keeping up parking i urge the commission to look at this carefully and you know hold the line on walkability, transit first particularly in our dense

neighborhoods along the van ness corridor and lastly on behalf of the middle polk associations and many associations i want to thank commissioner wu for all her services and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to the neighborhood voices and also i think more than anything else listening to those voices that sometimes are not in the room alonzo to you know elderly tenants and other individuals that maybe can't make it to the hearing having thought and consideration for those views i've enjoyed the opportunity to speak in public comment with i the president to thank you on behalf of of many neighborhood groups thought they'd have another week as well thank you very much.

>> sue hester i wanted to talk about general out of control documents produced but is planning department pr i tried to get the report on friday repeatedly for the next sites this is at ballot graphics the planning department has gone to overhead please - really ridiculous length to have high quality photos that make it impossible to copy the documents not a reality context in the department when i finally got to a planner to ask how to download i got the staff report on monday and find the page that we're reilly interfering with the public the documents like this

if i was color saturated pages i was wrong no one is based on the reality world of people to have printers at hope that don't have the planning department capabilities when you read a document and you try to print it out to give comments and you can't print it it makes the public absolutely irrelevant to anything how - i asked who in the department deals with the issues i was told a variety of people so your graphics are out of control director rahaim i'm saying this to you planning commission you responsible you're responsible every one of you for stepping into the shoes of the republic you don't represent the people in the department but the

republic i have a good understanding how to get the documents off the website i'm not someone as a normal member of the public trying to download the report reports that are three hundred pages long that have no table at the front that tells us where to get the motion and documents none it petitioning to the big things that really are public involvement real public involvement download a document and find the document is and have some kind of responsibility to the fabulous for example, for the next time can't get here in courtesy involved with people able to get here i'll have to leave job have a seat but the t m people are out in the hall or in the basement a lot of them i

know are here for ta d m and can't get in what the hell is going on here? >> any public comment? general public comment yes, i'm walter kaplan in my younger days a land use attorney this day i remember going back 5 decades going back to when spencer steel what the zoning administrator and i want to thank commissioner wu and all you commissioners for the time as public-private citizens you take to sit on the commission and review the documents and sit through those hearings that can be tedious and labor us over time i'll come

back and talk about the tower perhaps i wanted to say today was that i went to the monthly meeting of the coalition of san francisco neighborhoods in june and at that meeting our director gave a wonderful presentation a thorough comprehensive report and did you want i update on high speed rail and the project and it's different components and how it may or may not be in the transbay terminal that was superb and honored honored to have him represent the department and this commission thank you. >> any additional general public comment. >> good morning, commissioners mission resident working from the mission government agency approval i want to thank you

cindy for all your work and support in the community that out lie for the community and the advocate for making a place for working-class people second i just want to mention he live in the mission the latino quatro is in collaboration with the city and supporting that request from supervisor campos to have a better a lot about look about the project that coming to the latino quatro district and as from the board of supervisors we were able to pass the ballot measure to discuss about the replacement of pdr and i think you can not approve any project that is subject to these pdr replacements and there are some projects that included

in that needed to be waved and the voter of san francisco decided in november thank you. >> i'm rick hall one quick question when we get to speak to the director's report later or now. >> now would be okay to speak. >> talk into the mike please. i'll leave you copies of this i noticed the director's report on the regional mountain valley pipeline i did my own version and have copies for you but basically when i put in the 3 projects that are foot noted i find is that against arena targets or housing element goals we're three hundred set of

targets wards to hire income and 50 percent of target with regard to affordable so three hundred percent and 50 percent that's like 6 hundred percent difference and you know if you sort of paced out we often look at the director's report not passenger seat at the director but we tend to go we're a year and a half into it we'll see what happens but with the already approved projects you know if you assume that seven years that the housing elements is for we already in the year three 6, 20 years ahead of ourselves in approving market-rate housing i ask how we adjust our course to correct

this so comes into balance at some point thank you. >> i will leave copies of this. >> okay. >> next speaker, please. >> and again reminding folks this general public comment is for general public comment not for items on the agenda today good afternoon, commissioners i want to address issues of the reports that we're seen from within or outside of mission for the department to look at the reports and making sure they're complete we're seeing a lot of the reports that are culturally competent not including the latino the market that are regional that is important we need to capture and truly cover the picture for the mission of the latino cultural districts to

capture it to better address our issues in the mission so i think we have to be careful of the reports and making sure that completed picture of the community thank you. >> thank you. >> hi, my name is maria part to have quatro i'd like to speak to the report that commissioner antonini said well between often seattle and san francisco there is a few big points san francisco has finest land the other two don't they can build as much as they want their rents are coming down didn't mean anything to this city the 65 percent of people evicted here well, i don't know what to speak to that and here's

the question how did it get that material because i know that a lot of people have been evicted not able to move back and i just want to speak in general to statistics statistics can achieve whatever goal anyone wants an depend oning on their point of view the fact is this report that came out seems to heighten the fears in the mission seems in direct craft what we're understanding and in that same respect 5 economists in a room and ask them a question you'll get 5 different answers to once again

economists are not a scientific it is just have you do and - i'd like to say two things one is the last two hearings i've been at a big overflow room, however, people the guards at the door are not calling names loud enough they're shut out if they're watching in the overflow room and call their names towards the end not enough time given for people to come up stairs i wish you had an overflow room here and i'd like to have the names called ousted

louder any last thing you've known me i ask people to speak louder i wish you guys would speak louder too this didn't translate on the screen. >> good afternoon and you'll hear from me again, i wanted to start by saying thank you to all of you for this thankless job or reading through the papers. >> thank you cindy wu for the attention and you've spent and paid to the community concerns and studying this documents i really, really appreciated all the work as well as the rest of our colleagues even those i don't disagree with i want to concur with attorney sue hester as one that also asked for documents if the

planning department really how much time do you need to say avoiding rams are not what we need not community we don't have cd rams have those technology on a google drive we can assess when we're asking for e-mails that have gone the one the developers and the planning department staff get them on cd rams to figure out who can download that i think you need to think more as ms. hester said and put yourselves in the publics shoes that's an easy fix and instead of 5 days to go through 200 and 37 pages of documents you should calendaring after all the documents are in reading and in the system and give us the two weeks the

minimum we can do for the public to read through this stuff so it is an easy fix you did don't have to go backwards and the paperwork is not in time you need to do it when the paperwork is in its an easy fix we've only asked for a couple of years in 2011 we were frustrated a year and a half two years in 2013, the latino district started and a couple of months if finalizing it and things are pass as though we don't exist we'll not participate from this moment forward if the work is sub take care fudge and dismissed yeah, that's us that's me saying this is a waste of time if we can't

do what we've been sitting and trying and planning to do without the coordination of the commissioners fooengs r paying attention to what our work is and really thoughtfully looking at projects that note disregard all the work we've done. >> is there any general public comment okay commissioner vice president richards. >> two things i simple emphasize with the public with the copies on the documents i've ask for the statement i saw three hundred and ti pages i got it in my packet i appreciate staff doing this question not for discussion when we meet potentially for the standards we have this is a type of thing to download this document and also understand and i'll talk with the members of the public i know

when i click through the link the document is in pdf i can put it on the thumb drive or it is so long take to the printer and pay to have it done i want to make sure we balance the public assess at the ability of staff to get out this information it is an item i'll ask for i experienced it this week we need to make sure we're comfortable with it. >> commissioners, if there's nothing further, we'll move on to regular calendar for items 9 ab for case numbers the transportation transportation to demand management planning code and planning commission standards. >> good afternoon common sense and commissioner vice president richards and members of the board i'm sarah jones the director of economical planning

on the goodbyes and thank you's this is my final time as planning department staff and ero so i wanted to take a quick momentum thank you to the commission as a wholesome people don't like ceqa and i might hesitate to say some of you fall into that group i have great appreciation the way i've seen the commission sgaej with ceqa you take our responsibility seriously and ask all the right questions and you know most of all terrific with my staff i'll miss working with you and look forward to being here and prefrnt in my new role as the sfmta and special goodbye to commissioner wu but now for why we're here today this is also potentially the

final time the transportation sustainability team will be before you with an aspect to consider for approval as you may know the tps is meant to address one transportation puzzles how to address the effects of new development on the transportation system one aspect of that is what private investment projects o promotions to reduce the number of car trips the transportation to demand management ordinance before you you today represents the work of the multi agency team in our professional judgment is a legally technically feasible way to reduce the car trips citywide i'll i'm going to turn it over to wade senior planner that will tell you where the proposal has been since april. >> thank you sarah good afternoon commissioner president fong, commissioner

vice president richards and members of the commission i'm wade senior planner department staff here to discuss the transportation to demand management or tdm that has been an example in other jurisdictions across the country i'm extremely excited to be here and represent this amazing interagency team of this including the mta and members of the city attorney's office it's an honor working with them to this point including under the leadership of any boss sarah jones and but hopefully, this is just the beginning as the long term implementation of this component is what will determine the effects of the legislation as a reminder staff come to the planning commission in february for informational hearing and in april for the initiation and if we can go to the sfgovtv.

>> thank you our at the previous hearing staff provided the commission with the main component of the tdm and feedback to date since april staff respond to newcomers subsequent meeting and released the resources to develop the legislation and draft the standards that will be implementing the legislation the first draft was published at the beginning of june and revised for the staff report released two weeks ago those have an open house and other public meetings in number formulates where staff has received feedback this is summarized in attachment h of the report the legislation has received endorsements from the

municipal transportation agency board of directors and a letter of support from the bay area air quality management district with regards to the letters from the public and likely today staff has respond and here to answer the questions if request do by the commission a lot of feedback received focuses on two things citywide parking policy, and a desire to do more to improve the transportation system staff appreciates the comments and will continue to address the concerns, however, i want to setback and remind the commission of potential the most important part of this legislation first, as sarah mentioned this is the third component of a program continued to comprehensively address the transportation impacts that's

the transportation sustainability program while the transportation sustainability program and the tdm legislation are important they in and by themselves will not solve the transportation challenges their piece of a larger job housing, transportation, polls we're collectively trying to put together some of the puzzles is put together like the tps and passed the ceqa reform with level of service but others had been resolved through point policy efforts like residential permitted parking and sf park and connect sf that was heard before the commission second regarding current commission staff and the commission have been applying tdm on a case by case basis

without capturing a majority of growth little effectiveness of tdm measures or understanding from the public of a project tdm plan if there was even a plan the tdm legislation changes that based best practices and adjusted to reflect san francisco the tdm legislation would apply to the vast majority of growth in addition it will comprehensively assign points with reducing vehicle miles traveled to different memo of using the best information we have today furthermore that will better for the public of tdm plan it had been integrated within the project from the beginning of the development review process so that the public can review that early on again policies and procedures is

rebuilt into the legislation one of the must crucial and unique aspects is the implementation strategy staff will evaluate and make the memo to reflect the research or targets to reflect citywide vehicle miles traveled goals that come out of larger policy effort i've mentioned with connect sf it legislation and adaptation the tdm standard is an important first step but just that the tdm standards are a living document in the implementation and refinement of that will be the most existing part over a long period of time if you have questions about how this tdm legislation will function patrolling i can run through slides from an online interface that staff is test the development of platform is from the work by our transportation

team staff a screen shot of what that platform looks like lastly commission secretary here's on errata sheet since the release of staff report this language is regarding the needs for the submittal of a tdm update application if a property owner- staff is happy to answer any questions you may have in conclude this is an important piece of the puzzle and staff recommends you adopt the tdm legislation in association with the tdm standards thank you that concludes my presentation. i'll note we have senior staff or directors if mta, transportation authority,

department of the environment and department of health who would like to comment on this legislation as well. >> thank you director reiskin. >> good afternoon commissioner president fong and members of the commission ed reiskin director of transportation thank you for your time to consider this item the result of many years of work great collaborative work between the mta your agency the transportation authority and other city agencies and other stakeholders this is as you may know the real the third and final piece of transportation sustainability program the first you've approved and now implement this one focusing on demand i say critically important relates to the discussion at the joint meeting between you and the mta board recently there's a lot of we've been able to do on the supply when it comes to transportation in the

last two years 10 percent increase muni service in san francisco we're working with and supporting bart and caltrain and expanding their service and caltrain and doing everything we can on the surface the bottom line the streets are not getting wider in san francisco we can't look at managing the impacts of development on the transportation system only from the supply side we need to look at managing demand we've done this in an ad hoc way for particularly large projects with that ordnance gives us the opportunity to do is use a very symmetric transparent research back method of building in through policy and law a very specific way of managing the demand that new development will bring so it is not creating

unnecessary burden to the streets or the supply of transportation services so this is i think a huge step forward we are at the have an gaud other cities are looking at this ordinance as a potential model so we're really excited and think that is necessary we'll not be able to continue to manage the growth in san francisco without the tools and the systematic approach this ordinance will bring thank you for your time and consideration and the mta board unanimously supported recommending you and the board of supervisors approve it my staff will continue working with yours and the other city agencies through the legislative process and hopefully as we implement it thank you very much for your consideration and your staffs great work with us. >> thank you. >> good afternoon.

commissioner president fong and commissioners tilly chang director of the transportation authority would like to echo much of what ed said and thank you in particular director rahaim and the staff led imply sarah john's and her team a 3 part team there is an exceptional project to help us to get to the third part to manage the growth responsible and by passing this as ed mentioned we'll effectively reduce the impact of new development on the transportation network it is the stage of approval and the conclusion of onsite features and improvements as our community congestion management go agency your agency is prepared in support of monitoring and - as staff mentioned and ed mentioned a performance driven and research driven design we're committed with the implementation of the compliance and monitoring

process that is thought fell and research based thank you thank you for your time and guidance this afternoon. >> thank you. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm jennifer deputy director of the environment and as tilly said in may the planning department staff presented a environmental commission that supported is there a resolution during the meeting we were directed to work with the planning department to seek an amendment to the ordinance that highlights the important collaboration on issued like transportation to demand management i'd like to thank wade and sarah and others for working with us to deliver that we firmly believe that ordinance provides a way to reduce the vehicles in the cars and it strengthens our sustainable mode reduce the

drive alone trips and green house gas emissions your department is an active partner with multi action like planning or encouraging the behavior change through the residents and commuter we look forward to continuing to work alongside planning to achieve our collective goals in closing to our staff and commission buildings the ordinance provides a mechanism for the sustainable transportation into development and encourage the the planning amendment for transportation transportation to demand management thank you. >> good afternoon commissioners commissioner president fong thank you thank you for the opportunity my name is megan i'm an emancipation proclamation demonstrative on the - we feel

this positively impacts the height for many years we've worked to support the air quality and active transportation 3 priorities from the population to future plan and reducing this is essentially, we building the tdm with planned increases in jobs and investing more 6 thousand cars can be added to the streets of san francisco this is not to add to the commemorating but the quality of life more - air quality will worsen it is essentially, we impact policies to create systems that support walking and biking and transit use the tdm is a smart approach that provides great interventions that are driving

like parking reduction and shuttle services and offering bicycle and oust childcare and helping the retail to help with the complete neighborhoods additional we appreciate the flexibility of the construction that will allow for swift jouchlt adjustment based on the best practices we're also pleased to see accountability measures for the planning code they lack the opening oversight we believe the transportation policies consistent with the prioritization of human being wellness are important, important pedestrian safety and other saves to support the program i looked at it to the ongoing collaboration with other city agencies to help the people that live and work and play in san francisco thank you for your time of this important policy change. >> okay. any other speakers from agencies or other

participating groups not seeing any, open up for public comment (calling names). >> commissioner president fong we did acknowledge a group for orchard opposition i believe that calvin welch is one of the speakers. >> okay. great. >> calvin our group has a 10 minute presentation. >> hello commissioners thank you for the opportunity to speak as a group today my name is deb i'm with the san francisco human services agency and speaking with the community of housing organizations to raise several concerns about the ordinance the human services network is 70 health and nonprofits we impose

the requirements on tdm based on nonprofits organizations particularly those that our city funded to serve the vulnerable populations first of all, we do not generate vehicle miles traveled that program will impose new expensive programs for people with walk or take the bus to assess those services we have poverty and homelessness and other challenges in a surveying we know their neighborhood based on and the majority live in the neighborhoods i will district a map we coincide with the poverty neighborhood and the transit lines they have high use of public transit and out alternatives secondly, not appropriate to impose expensive

fees the policymakers like the actively the city relies on nonprofit and grants and contracts to reduce the burdens on government by providing the services that makes no sense to provide the funding and on the other hand, simultaneously take thousands of dollars away from the organizations that will increase the costs of providing those services they exempt one hundred affordable housing and should also exempt human services agency serving the same population a better way to reduce the vehicle miles traveled and with the human services agency would be to increase the availability of free transit for client populations as well as for the city itself to provide funding for transit passes to the staff of nonprofits i also want to point out the ordinance will effect the that concludes my remarks for service related vehicles the city funds

the services that requires serve for meals to homebound clients or shufrlt buses to people with disabilities those should not be counted for the purposes of tdm i'm going to turn it over to calvin that will raise other points if our groups. >> thank you deb let me take a minute to thank kindergarten wu not only is cindy bringing a community consciousness to those hearings but a citywide appreciation and skill to community groups as well cindy serves not only this body well but serves the community by pointing out the needs that we all have to together and i for one point to thank you for your service cindy and we'll all miss you.

>> we won't miss this proposal however, to proposal needs a little bit of work the emphasis in the memo of options which is after all the heart of program is curiously and bizarrely missed to us the points not only the needs of folks who live in affordable housing and use human services priorities by the city but in general the population of the city that is residents on muni the under the influence of the tdm options on page 82 of the report is high occupancy vehicles the highest points granted are for programs getting people not on public transit but in private

shuttle services vanderpool programs and contributions or incentives for sustainable transportation option not public transit not even walking walking pedestrian use has the lowest number of points for inclusion in a new development that seems strangely bizarre not only does the option of memo of options stress the privatization of transit at the cost of public streets and walking and pedestrian safety but public transit is an odd orientation so we're asking for the inclusion of nonprofits and the commitment on the part of this department and should be in this

ordinance to provide as many fast passes as possible the current system the free muni service as possible to many city contractors that use or that provide human services and affordable housing services to low income poem but you ought to redo the ongsz to reemphasis public transit not private automobiles even if their high occupancy vehicles i'll yield my rest of my time to peter cohen. >> thank you peter peter cohen, san francisco council of community housing organizations. we working closely with the human services between our two coalitions and many if not most of all the city's affordable housing and service provisions nonprofits cbo nonprofit we

bring a particular perspective we're not here to you know to rain down critique but like the tsif ordinance earlier this year this is significant policy that is a big game-changer for the city we're giving you some constructive feedback to get it right we ask the commission to take it at slowly as necessary i want to focus on another piece of the process that is how does a tdm plan put together and how who is involved and ultimately know the tdm measures are the right ones to get the maximum impact part of that it the place context an interesting many, many dozens if not hundreds of pages technical manual at the end of the day every sight exists in a place in a particular context one of the concerns it give us essentially

all the privilege to the private folks a memo how you know put together the best way we don't know whether the community that is local and has the local knowing has been involved in that and staff is really at the back ended, if you will, i think in a weak role with a lot of professional expertise but simply responding and reacting the experience that many of us have similar in the area plans all the work that went through a decade with the eastern neighborhoods and market octavia and rincon to have impact fees to be paid and working with the department staff increasing over the last couple of years now encouraged to be done to in kind proposals that means the private sponsor gets to decide how to

spend that money rather than through the departments and what we often see as a goal played set of quote public improvements, of course, there be of most value to the sponsor but pitch the public improvements that's i'll say a warning you don't want that to happen with the tdm that about transportation improvements that have public benefit and benefit to the residents of the opts out of that building and more than a prerogative and having staff and community bp that package in the context in place 3 things we're asking for exemption for human services to be funded nonprofits like affordable housing is xmentsdz we're asking you to think more deeply about how you value the different point systems some are over values and under and to consider the process steps and make sure there is a strong place for the community and staff to work

somehow collaboratively coming up with a tdm we'll be happy to work with the sta had meetings with wade and sarah and heard those comments before and making progress but again, we suggestion you take it slowly and get it right thank you. >> i'm meeting on a nonprofit based in the bayview but working nationally to increase the consideration of health and equity chops and we urge the commission to approve the transportation to demand management ordinance the ordinance not only has benefits associated with reducing green house gas emissions and congestion but also the potential to improve public health department to increase the residence on single-room occupancy vehicles

will reduce is emissions that create create the health impacts we've heard from the department of health including religious picture and others outcomes they're not limited thank you contributor they actually reduce the vehicle miles traveled is important for achieving cleaner air and health benefits including walking and biking and public transit that includes the physical activities at one or both end of the trip and more convenient trip and reducing vehicle trips are satisfactory and lower volumes of vehicles with less injury for all yours and support of inclusion of affordable housing and development of health and safety retail as tdm options that benefit health are essential to increase the vehicles traveled

after the tdm ordinance is impacted we'll urge the monitoring include tracking the ordinance and reducing the vehicle and consists traffic from the sro by impacts on transportation and more generally the transportation planners insure that transportation to demand management strategies are coupled with the capacity option for the transit and active transportation for protecting residents that don't think cars overall tdm is an important shift for the health of the city residents and workers and ask the commission to approve that and recommend to the board of supervisors continuing on public comment. >> good afternoon. i'm with the transportation with spur here to express support for the citywide transportation to

demand management program this program is based on sound transportation and urban design and research we appreciate staffs willingness and offered some suggestions and a commitment to an ongoing process about what we expressed an example of san francisco's land use sustainability safety and health by promoting the demonstration e developments that is oriented walking and transit and others sustainable modes this program is critical to san francisco to grow grow without adding traffic and adrc streets and minimizing the needs for additional transportation and infrastructure we urge your support for staff's recommendation thank you. >> okay additional speakers (calling names) and anyone downstairs that is interested in speaking on items

9 ab. >> corey smith on behalf of the business and individual members with the housing action coalition we've been following this for the last few years both planning and mta made presentations to the mile-per-hour giving a lot of the comments with the speakers that had opportunity to provide the feedback we support the direction this is headed it is what the society and city needs specifically we appreciate the fact one of the main focuses reducing the vehicle miles traveled it is a number and a quantitative goal and ask the program be as flexible as possible one of the major goals to - that's not be helpful we

applaud the city's efforts and are in support thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm alice rogers speaking for myself with the neighborhood association signed on to a letter issued to you from walk sf and livable city personally, however, i'm here to say that well, i support this program and applaud the staff for the outreach and willingness to speak to every single person who has opinions on this that i think that like many other speakers it needs a little bit more work before going on into prime time reducing the vehicles miles travels is important but raw i'm afraid the vehicle miles will have been outsourced

i gap any car any vehicles are not less i do them definitely i've tried car share unfortunately is not cost-efficient so really tic are more cost-efficient it is a cheapest and easiest way to get around they need to be managed one significant thing that you could do taking advantage of the annual review so survey each and every single occupant driving into the city you'll gain information that will let you refine the plan and manage the delivery and chaos but also how vehicle miles are happen in the city the program didn't really and congestion which rapidly effects

air pollution like other programs where you can require local hires i think you can also - as people commitment to flextime to shift traffic in peak travel times i think you can also add as measure that approximate is hires business residents in that neighborhood you're not maurnd or demanding that people use less passes your asking them them to and ask them to do those other things thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners tom executive director of livable city we definitely support the goal of transportation to demand management this is really

overdue we do better neighborhoods and eastern neighborhoods i think a lot of the transportations planning we were spit balling not didn't know what worked and not hoping to reduce the congestion the city is more congested we grow and develop we need to manage has the city grows and link the transportation to demand management goals to other goals of the city so the letter you got from livable city and walk sf a lot of advocacy groups working an vision zero this is a proxy for serial killer then this measure needs to not only reduce is auto trips but walking and cycling safely but get people to where they're going safely in order to get there we need important appraised in 4 main areas a fix if you build

parking lot and that is somehow in the generating automobile trips i reader the staff report we can't reduce that we'll prevented imagine if you try to director climatic change we'll exempt coal and pretend that coal didn't exist you might have more pole consumption coal consumption if you allow a big loophole you'll get more and two won't be effective all the goals for tdm are calibrated to the average of the projects that are here you need to look at the capacity of streets to carry additional traffic if you're in a neighborhood that seize double the amount then by the ordinance

the amount of traffic and auto trips in that neighborhood could double what neighborhood could you not double the neighborhood traffic and not double the congestion for walkability but by projection but need to do neighborhood planning and setting goals and targeted and margeing managing to road capacity not generate as many as you want not more than your neighbor we feel more emphasis on walking and lastly all. research parking requirements is just generating car trips and running contemporary you get rid of the exemption none has to put in parking do tdm and smaller projects tdm we urge you to urge your staff to work with the

advocates. >> thank you mr. dulavich. >> next speaker, please. >> rick hall speaking for myself i am usually totally opposed to the thing sfmta is could go to our city and streets and i see this issue that you're dealing with here to be one that really does require planning and sfmta to work together sfmta essentially applies a one-size-fits-all all the across the city anglo neighborhoods across the city so tom suggestions for community involvement i think is an important one i also agree that congestion is just being replaced private car

use replaced by uber's and lyft's and congestion is the thing to be managed you know and in the mission from the years 2000 to 2012 where we saw an increase of essentially the incomes from medium incomes up 67 percent from 50 to 75 thousand 67 percent there in medium incomes and 75 percent increase in car ownership household this and other studies should that with the high income people that we are buildings for throughout this city they come with twice as many cars so we have to think about we're

stimulating car used by emphasizing luxury housing we are stimulating car used by a factor of two i guess we have a lot of management to throwing thank you. >> sue hester this is going on before the departments oh, 40 seconds please i've been xhaits on the out of control academy of art that has 40 sites in the city they have a bus system and refuse to file an institutional master plan until some of us were irritants and forced them to do that and look at this i say, huh? where are - are you going to

review a 40 site institutions that has a private bus system that is 25 years out of compliance and you see empty buses to circulate all over the place and that is one the things i have trouble with the planning department is not going to deal with that all overhead there is a map of 34 sites for the academy of art and this is an additional page 6 additional sites here, here, here, here, here 40 sites with a private bus system connecting them all entering loopers have loading zones in traffic lanes for the muni we have had because i've been

dealing with a a long time one when the downtown plan was passed the city imposed programs it is in the books right now for the downtown plan to get at the transportation issues that was in 1980 and how much of that fix was it there were measures taken in the downtown plan to require monitoring of transit usage one of the things i totally agree with the human services coalition that spoke in the beginning we don't have a plan that really values muni the check list is going bogus and so i see what problems exist for the muni the muni is faced with running the needle coming

down the street how many of planning department or the staff various agencies understand the problems that exist your encouraging uber uber is a out land they stop in the middle of the street and muni is detailed by uber and muni is detailed by the academy of art buses that run virtually empty we are not having a conversation about literally the bus system with the academy of art i'm going to be an irritant for as along ii have to make you pay attention thank you. >> additional speakers. >> okay public comment is closed. and opening up to commissioners did you want to speak on this

item or you're just standing up. >> i don't - item 12 polk. >> we're on item number 9 right now. >> no problem. >> public comment is closed. commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i got a number of comments i did call staff last week in regards to the map that talked about residential parking i estimated density and trying to show which residential areas one to one and less than that down to you know .5 and things like that so i happen to live in lakeside village 13 all of them have at least one car per resident many of them have two cars per residents part of your map in the lower part of lakeside is low as .6 and other point shows

around .8 that doesn't make sense we know each of the houses have one to one and so i point out as an example to make sure that when we look at these graphs and those studies they are accurate because i know about that area and can't comment on all the areas he question some of the sunset too but a few questions or comments. >> i believe this program has two goals the first goal to have fewer vehicle miles traveled particularly by individual cars and then the other goal is to have these vehicle miles traveled replaced by transit use walking and biking and things like that so because it is two-fold if you diminish the use of

single-family cars it means you'll increase the use of mass transit it is heavily impacted for those who advocate for no fees for nonprofits or even for 100 percent affordable they're generating more demand for public transit if, in fact, it is true that residents have 100 percent have fewer or no cars and the same for nonprofits don't have as many cars in their usage if their in fact, using public transit you know as a greater percentage of the way they're doing business they're generating so everyone should pay your fair share it is all about you know the trying to fund more money for transit if you are successful in eliminating vehicle miles

traveled by cars as consequence you'll more demand for transit but if you don't have funding you'll have a system not able to meet the demands and everyone that demands more transit should pay part of bill you'll hardly charge anyone for public transit if you're older old you don't pay if you're younger or a student a handful of people that pay muni that's one of the reasons our system is underfunded anyway, that's an aside other things business committed in here small business in particular on the negative effects of limiting available street parking or parking

particularly small businesses are effected disproportionly bigger businesses provide their own parking lot safeway or other things will not provide parking if we move away from having accessory parking less streets for parking we'll impact the small businesses as proportionally and i can tell you from experience a lot of times i'll wanted to stop at a book store or some other store and won't go there can't find parking and even restaurant decisions west lake it grew, park not fight for parking so you go there a lot you know that is one less thing to deal with so the other thing we're not an

island maybe staff what comment briefly with at cities are doing with regards to this program is it dysfunction in other cities it is successful what form it is taking. >> sure commissioner antonini wade department staff tdm the concept has been around for 34 years in jurisdictions across the country and came out from the clean air that was a requirement for jurisdiction that had poor air quality over the years cities have taken different approaches to this our ordinance is probably closest in cambridge massachusetts how we tie the parking to the tdm requirement but there is more

local examples of tdm santa monica and others have gotten a process oakland is looking to model their program after us and smaller jurisdictions sarah worked on tdm plan for stanford university so there's been tdm has been used in a variety of settings we through the best practices from those settings to make it more san francisco specific. >> those are fairly small cities. >> seattle. >> okay. we're getting ahead. >> (laughter). >> i've been through a lot of large cities in the united states maybe they don't have beau's and oceans but little staff in the downtown they have the ability to direct the traffic to roads that circle the cities on this those that have

business downtown and adequate parking lot you don't notice congestion our situation is unique but a place like boston or seattle you have water and limited space i mean, i think that is good to know about thank you we're not an i'd like and make sure we don't do anything that makes us less competitive business from outside of san francisco which we are businesses don't think we need to have people coming from other bay areas for shopping and ouch people that are patients that live out of the city i don't come here can't park and they have to pay for park i mean, i'm not saying we've changed that that is an issue and the other thing about walking i was a runner and hope

to be in the future my back is not good right now so i don't walk far so the elderly and those who have disabilities or temporarily health problems can't walk and can't dismiss you should walk or bike we have to be considerate of those that don't have other options anyway a couple of final comments important we have to make sure we have the nexus in this legislation with the impact the individual business the amount of traffic it generates to the what it has to contribute be that less parking available or some of the other

types of things you're suggesting you know i don't really think this is valid if we're not showing a nexus between the projects and their generation and making sure by limit the mutual parking they're providing that we're mitigating their impact i mean we assume the people take public transit and they try to promote that by giving them free passes and things like that but also make more traffic elsewhere they go something else to find parking we have to watch out for that and then the other thing is prioritizing the top item the reduction of oinlt parking and administrative fees are religious can we represent the

administrative fee is what we're charged instead of we need to do lots of years of studying and preparation in the future planning so having them pay for that two we have to draw a nexus those are my suggestions i think if it seems to me a step in the right direction and hopefully it is successful i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you thank you thank you to the staff all of our work and sarah so sad this is your last meeting and commissioner wu as well i'm really sad okay. but i'll stick to the topic at hand thank you for all your hard work i appreciate the changes that were made and appreciate staff memo really outlining both the staff position and some of the alternatives opinions about this

program it is clarifying for today so just a few things first, i think we've - i've heard the false decome and - each project has a piece they'll become part find public realm and part of the network of how people get twovm and to me all the pieces if neither or we need all of the above i'm excited we're here today just a couple of things i want to start with talking about nexus and foul commissioner antonini this is something that we brought up in the joint

hearing the sfmta makes me happy we had that i saw written in the memo and various commenters brought it up i'm a little bit confused i read through the 5 hundred page report which was fascinating and the cap cola with the work i've already seen from the mta and from theville division in the planning department to me, you can get as closed to a nexus if you add in the cola around transportation measures how you look at the impact and the measure may have and collective impact that joint together and by looking at the demand measurement at the

neighborhood level and at the transcript impact analysis from mta and what we use for ceqa and join those together it is possible to get close to a nexus between any particular development and the context where it will be and the measures most appropriate for the impacts of that development so can i ask staff about i going on to my recommendations why do we feel we don't have a nexus like what is missing for us the city to be able to say we can create a nexus between the tdm measures and part of memo and development projects and if we don't have a nexus you know what responses do we have for people saying what measures work for when projects. >> wade with dave i think

there is a few things with the nexus terminology to commissioner antonini's question about nexus in our fee that is for the administrative fee we have documentation how we came up with the fee and continue to monitor that over time nexus commissioner johnson our correct using the best information today, we have a assigned point values in reducing the tdm there is a nexus between the measures and their effectiveness in reducing the v m t one of the foe things that came up was whether or not a fee out option and based on the feedback from the commission staff didn't pursue that there were concerns about nexus on how to fund

improvements that developer may pay to the transportation system so that was the nexus that we're talking about there that is different from what the amount of vehicle miles traveled in an individual project to reduce the implementation of the measures i don't know if corey has anything to add. >> thank you corey you're right wade the word nexus unfortunately can be used in a lot of different ways ii i've e i was refer to the choice of the measures and the impact the project has i understand there is another nexus if we consider the fee what is that fee and you know what is the level of that fee and on the other side between the nexus and fee and what we're using it for the impacts of the mitigation and a potential fee two different

questions i present you sort of segmenting them i'll agree with staffs recommendation i don't think a fee out option is appropriate we've seen other impact fees it is challenging to tie those dollars to local improvements; right? so when you think about other impact fees we are a challenging time okay. if you want to pay the fee we'll provide the improvements within a quarter of a mile and transit and demand that is something we definitely needs to be able to do if we'll contemplate a fee option to mitigate the impact not just get the dollars i agree with staff's recommendation that is why i'm focusing on the nexus between the number of units and things

like that and actually measures memo. >> we have assigned points bans the nexus so if the cola report you've referred to say basically says if you implement one measure there is an x percentage reduction in v m t than otherwise and we've taken that percentage reductions and translated it into that to simplify it, if you will, so speaking if something is assigned two points it is roughly two percent reductions that's the valuable information there is a connection of nexus. >> yeah. i agree with you and i think the recommendation i feel can happen at the staff level the guidelines and the documentation can be changed over time to really clarify that because i agree with you based

on the hearings we've had and the research but not actually, i read the cap forward there's a quantitative analysis with ceqa and things we've done quantitative analysis tying the measures to the mitigation of the potential impacts of a particular project and as good as you can get a lot of caveats in the report but good as you can get but making that more explicit will quell many issues that project sponsors or members of the public may have two won't necessarily won't sit and read 12 hundred pages but where did you get 3 points i like caregiver work is that 3 points

i like the certification will hope people understand that is as close as we get to a true you produce that many grams of green house gas emissions then you do this that's as close as you'll get you appreciate that hopefully that will be clear so i want to address some of the issues that i saw in the staff report and presented in public comment. so first on the health and human services agency i definitely see the issue there i can understand where that comment is coming from, however, there was a couple of things first of all, if so for 25 thousand hundred square feet for the vast majority of human services and others nonprofits

this will not apply i'm tempted to sort of say this sort of a bridge we have to cross when we get to it a nonprofit that hopefully has the resources are able to get the resources to the boys and girls to build a development on their own or substantial renovation we'll cross that bridge with the agreement to the city to mitigate those costs beyond that i would say that for smaller uses even if you want to - there are potential changes in the future that may lower that threshold; right? and human services agency are still applies to them i'll make the argument we're starting to see this with the hope sf project the line is blurring between

human services agency and other land use categories you're starting to see health clinics in the mixed income communities and others services embedded in those communities i don't know sort of policy wise how to separate the demand that is generated from the services and the demand from other serves as again getting back to the fact you have to have a network effect for tdm to work to reduce the demand i think that those agencies need to be part of the fabric and if an economic argument about it challenging to them we can address that in another forum on accessory parking total make sense i don't see that mission bay a parking lot there now part of uber building that we approved in mission bay but other than sort of the master

plan development i don't see a whole love accessory parking coming about in the city, however, i do think that there is maybe thought the staff can put into one of the recommendations was allow space for accessory structures to be utilized for certain tdm car share or bike share and we should consider and like with human services agency not a lot of pashlth structures to begin with we're not talking about tdm again make that structure and cross that bridge when we get to it where it as problem for whatever reap it didn't work and then finally on tdm plan creation so as a staff argument around tdm it is a code compliant check and have a plan

check and the staff advocating they get into negotiation, however, i'm counter the discretionary powers of the planning department means any medium to large size we would be looking at the manufactured they've chosen and likely that we will take into account public comment and sort of public process in terms of what measures were chosen enemy kind of feeling the measures are not the right ones for example, the larger projects they choose to have a doorman control the deliveries and the neighborhoods or public commenters say not the right thing for our neighborhood and whatever it maybe that's something we'll take into account i'd like to have that overseeing thoughts in the process before it gets to us

because reality is we're going to take into account anyways and looking at tdm measures i understand it is code compliant but part of the predevelopment applications people ask for development plan checks i forget what that is called the plan reviews or something like that yes when developers ask for project review maybe that becomes part of project review what's your tdm we give an opinion based on whatever about it i feel there needs to be something about some sort of qualitative assessment we pick it apart up here every thursday i would accessory parking and tdm i'll make recommendations we sort of maybe amend some of the

measures here i don't know we need to change the motion i've read it not what i've said is explicit in the motion but certain changes the staff should take into consideration. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> thank you. i didn't read the 12 hundred nexus study page i'm operating from a point of not information but questions for staff two major questions first one is where are we at as a city in terms of missions, vehicle miles traveled do we know all over the place a speaker went up the woman i don't know if she's here if we don't do something 6 hundred additional cars where are we're going and with the new program is not only curve the number of cars added but exists i mean can you help me out where do we want

to go. >> that's a great question and good afternoon. i'm michael schwartz with the transportation authority i know this last week or tracks to as part of joint hearing heard about joint sf it is a long term effort and tied to the regional transportation plan get our heads around vehicle miles in climate change goals and other related goals to that so what we're trying to do we know this is a major outcome of that connect sf to try to define where we are today with vehicle miles traveled and what we need to do to hit the target this development has one piece to play in this tdm an onsite improvement and get the most effectiveness as you may know

this commission recommended and recently passed the sustainability fee and other pieces there is citywide transportation transportation to demand management and all those pieces we want to related to m toms comment this neighborhood is responsible for doing this this is the approach we recommended this particular ordinance is a positive step for new developments piece of that have and we know definitely reduces that and will quantifying. >> so when we had the joint meeting was there a slide i don't know we got a copy was there something outlined how everything fits together my head is swimming though to tie it up with a red bow. >> i'm happy to follow up this

was connect sf we shouted four goals one of a healthy environment and tied to the vehicle miles traveled and the reductions in the early going on phases of that program not an explicit the fact of the matter. >> under the v m t as a member of the public we have all those things over the past decade or two and acronyms we don't know the context they're all we kind of go how does that fit in tying it up is a powerful marketing tool and second question fantastic the cut off is 25 hundred feet if we did a performa and we said over the last 10 years if it was in place

reduced v m t by 25 thousand square feet and where we landed on the number of parking spaces highway patrol e how much of under 25 hundred square feet we had 3 cars for one household those add up with a exemption what's the impact of the small projects is it 50/50 what's the small stuff look like a small percentage. >> commissioner vice president richards wade with department staff i don't have the last staff report with me but you're talking about footnotes we had a footnote in the last staff report that essentially looked at the pipeline on the cut offices i can say off the top of my head for residential 10 units or less

or 90 units or less is 3 percent of total number of units. >> it is insignificant. >> it is insignificant i can't recall but i think that is definitely under 10 percent. >> those adam up are 15 percent something had this is 85. >> even regardless of that every bit helps i support mr. dulavichs about the parking requirements whatever like one a couple weeks ago on the 15 percent 3 percent we've seen what the impact with the number of parking spaces with vehicles i guess that staff had questions so some people brought up -

sometimes from i take muni i'm square feet i didn't i have to survey carry a bag someone talked about shifting the mode can you talk a little bit about. >> we the research we have that it will be shifted the research we have didn't say exactly they'll walk or bike or take tdm about the transportation network companies uber's and, etc. about those i'll defer to michael swaufrts to talk about the research related to those. >> the goal here to minimize

and my activity was not minimizing anything that car was still driving around can you help me out. >> it is a that's a great question and one that is coming up in all the outreach hearings we're working hard he know there is new modes of transportation it didn't exist and sorrow certainly not like a few years ago we're playing catch up and not to date had the inclusive data that is something we definitely want to continue looking forward we know sort of on the plus side you know people that pay on a per trip basis that's the ideas of car paying out-of-pocket and buying a parking space help people travel less on the other hand, if

people are driving in and adding tdm to the network circling around. >> there is a plan to look at this. >> we plan the new data collection with the technology and with all the various modes tdm we're get our heads around and knowing that will change at the great strengths of program a living document that can, adjusted and today is tdm and we want to be responsive. >> that's great it is actually happening another question we see projects currently sometimes they have a tdm plan, they have especially for rental muni passes every month to get people out of cars i think that is a valid critique why not have something like that in it exempting muni can you

talk a little bit about. >> yeah. commissioner wade department staff the measure which if i can recall the exact name contributions or incentives for sustainable transportation. >> buried in there. >> that costs 8 points the value is how much subsidy you give to the residents it is based on the muni monthly pass so we expect if someone choose this measure it month likely will be for muni. >> two more questions before i pass it i do support the understanding of the neighborhoods and goals that is something that commissioner johnson mentioned whether ever we go on the road map and i'll support can you talk a little bit about about the comments on