borrowing of what to consider we finally lists this you've given full consideration of every possible potential landscape of what sort of fitsdz within the larger discussion of legacy business without their and/or what is a in the administrative code in prop j. >> yes. by having that list we should number things by having this list of usage we're signaling to the constituents of that legislation this is what they should apply for we should remove that ♪ part and leave it in the rent stabilization we have a rent provision by remove it from this list of eligible fund uses doesn't anybody object >> a second. >> we're editing. >> now the next 3 items would

don't say to deal with them their employee related i propose to you that ploy salaries slash expenses first of all, not expenses because expenses are arbitrary salary i suggest to you that that really only provides such a small potential raise that it is i think consequential and not. >> if i may this was to help the legacy businesses those items may not help the legacy businesses vpdz we should leave a caveat and say prop j specific

talks about salaries and per employee we may have to check back with the responsible person before we dispose of those items we ought to in my opinion, of course, my opinion to dispose of those 3 items and eliminate them subjected subject to getting approval from the city attorney. >> of course that's a good way of putting it before we doing anything through the city attorney does anyone object to removing those if we're not hunter's view if the city attorney has no objection to that. >> may i have make one other sort of what may happen if we do the city attorney may be comfortable with this is that in removing them but if a business is able to present in a

meaningful way is there a large business that could be something under other can be considered. >> yes. the last item allows for someone to come and say hey i have hundred employees and want to hire a grant writer (laughter) so, yeah so i think that again, we get to whether they're having those here's signals in a way that just teasing businesses to come here in that didn't work. >> or whether excluding them someone has a proactively make a case and like invite them or entice them to come and do that. >> i be that is appropriate because like we keep on saying otherwise people will have unrealistic expectations about

what some of the items can do for their business we don't want everybody coming up that is $0.25 an hour over and over and over again, it is better it is a take them out if they come with some amazing and compelling reasons. >> yeah. under the other. >> and consistent with the time limitations those are reconcurring competitions where the other items on the list are open a need basis and limited in time. >> if someone says i want to hire a consultant for x number of months and it falls within the $500 per fte than that is different and in fact, i'll hire a consultant not an employee. >> okay. it is under there so, yes good. >> i'm recommending an idiot to the document to delete the first 4 items under the eligible uses does anyone object and a

motion based on on edited document that dleelts those and puts in the number 3 and number 4. >> say impeding. >> and subject to the motion subject to any objection from the city attorney as to the items we have removed. >> yes. >> okay. >> i don't make motions i just - >> (laughter). it would be preferable to have a motion on the eligible uses so - >> are they taken in order start with the extension ever time and no. you of the motion page you have your motion page i don't 90 the order i have them in the application timeline so extending that approved that so, now we're going looking at eligible uses and ineligible uses and time limits and the

full program. >> so make a motion on each one or approval on. >> make a motion or affirm each step and make a motion. >> make a motion to adopted this. >> i think we need to add. >> with the edited. >> yeah. i prefer to make the motion on the edits and then a full motion on the entire program. >> so someone. >> separate program. >> move we make those edits someone make the motion. >> (laughter). >> (multiple voices). >> you guys know changes to the ineligible use commissioners; correct? or. >> i move that in the eligible front usage list the first four

items be removed from the list. >> okay. >> subject as to 2, 3, 4 and even the four of them to be checked with the as to the removal with the city attorney's office. >> okay. >> i second. >> okay. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> thank you your next motion will be final motion. >> well, we didn't someone should make a motion to adopt the 3 years. >> i make the motion we adopt the term up to 3 years on item 4 any business legacy business may receive business assistants grant up to 3 years. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> sorry man, i didn't mean to up super our call - >> so, now at the final motion

to approve those rules rules and regulations as edited. >> i move we approve the - >> it includes the thinking eligible. >> i'm sorry. >> you'll have to edited that based on the edits to the eligible. >> correct so we can not. >> destroyed number 3. >> basically be ineligible list will be debt relief. >> yes. >> we'll have to - (multiple voices). >> yes. i think that is right because you can come and make a case rent will be taken off the table and employee salary stuff you'll have to make a case. >> it will be cleaner. >> do we have a motion to

remove the items two and three under ineligible fund. >> i move we strike items two and three from the ineligible fund usage oar i'll second. >> i'll second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> okay. now do we have a motion to approve this document as edited i move. >> second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> okay all right. >> so i feel i ran a marathon. >> thank you, commissioners. >> all right. so we're moving on to item no. 7. >> approval approval of the minutes august 8, 2016, january 11, 2016, and october 2015 and april 2015 all

draft minutes meetings. >> do we need public comment. >> oh, any public comment on this item? item no. 7. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners do we have a motion to approve the minutes. >> i move. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> okay. that that motion carries 7 to zero. >> and number 8 director's report update on the small business commission and update on department and recent announcements from the mayor and new introduced policy matters and updates announcements on small business activities discussion item. >> the last meeting to provide a report for our meeting minutes so just to give you a brief information the individual we were using for doing the transcription we're not able to

use anymore and we had o a great intern alex that was helping us with the meeting minutes we've been able to keep up and have 10 not including the current meeting but 8 meeting minutes from 2015 and 3 meeting minutes from 2016 a total of 11 meeting minutes that we still need to our backlog. >> so we're working on trying to find other solutions for help but we may have to extend our 12 because we may not be able to produce the volume and then the commission heard the legislation of creating the cannabis task force and knowing this is on this

year's ballot i've asked men can to attend the task force meeting to get ahead of the potential implications we may be experiencing i do think with the business assistance center once that starts to it passes i think we will start to see a high influx of people wanting to know what is doable and not doable the task force a lieutenant planning i think we have other things we need to be giving consideration in terms of we're tight on our commissaries and commercial kitchens right now and so i think with the package of passage of this lieu alu what that will do the - we want to

be ahead of considerations before the office and you getting a handle what that maybe and with that, i know i'll leave any report at that since we have an earlier discussion today. >> great any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> okay director's report i'm sorry. >> commissioner. >> number 9 commissioners report allows the point and vice president to present on small business activities and make announcements of interest. >> i have nothing to report. >> i have one. >> sorry go ahead. >> on the 12 we met with dpw ecology and discussed the dismal state of cleanliness in our

neighborhood commercial districts and that a good round table came up with potentially productive ideas i'll be reporting as we're going forward a lot of new ideas i'd like to pass that on. >> awesome okay. >> great let's make sure we get that on the agenda anyone else yeah. >> commissioner tour-sarkissian. >> i attended a sfmta board meeting and there for two items on o delores that passed unanimously they heard what we suggested and loot small businesses attended and thrilled the out another item we heard here the mission carpeting the transit 14 and i want to thank sfmta and director reiskin he tried his staff did a lot of outreach and challenges they've done some concessions but not

enough so i just want to have that topic still individual we're losing a lot of small businesses really, really rapidly so muni is better that's great but it is at the cost of small businesses and the spirit sometimes sfmta is well - as a community progresses some people have to make sacrifices two minutes for 20 years of a small business. >> i think it is less about steve and speed and more about frequency they say we are doing this to increase the speed of bus by 3 minutes don't leave me standing on the platform or the bus stop and liquor store trading two minutes for 20 years of business you know, i think the trade offs and i think they're working on the wrong problem so i don't know how we

can convey that they march to their own drums so but anyway, commissioner yee-riley you have something public comment on commissioners report seeing none, public comment is closed. last item please. item number ten new business for agenda for the commissioner discussion item. >> maybe a question i'd like to go through the process with the entrants with small businesses like maybe pare me up with a small business owner to see how it is on their end it is different from this end just i don't know if that is possible. >> yeah. i think we'll have that opportunity when we see what the first within the scope of it looks like and you know so

i don't know excuse me - getting involved in the application process where i am not i don't know who how it will go an application; right? >> the part of rules and regulations meaning not stimulated i apologize that is designed for staff to approve the grants we can do during the first process is be able to kind of walk through there is a grant filing period before we make decisions on the grants so we can start coming before you with this is what some of the grants applications look like. >> yeah. let's look at the first application and see there's a window we can ask the applicant hey if you tweak our 2:00 o'clock it too this way and that way so let's wait. >> i have a comment about the

legacy business registry i think that we've talked about the money side of things but a lot of businesses in the city legacy businesses that they want to be legacy businesses because it has some marketing advantage and a lot of them fall into that category and noticed ever hearing with those businesses it is a happy event you know happy. >> a lot of - being a small business commission we ought to think about how we maximize on that and mentioned there is a legacy business registry site and i think there are certain things that should be on the site for example, the business description certainly should be the opportunity to kind of celebrate the fact that they have they're on the registry good for the city and good for

them and the commission. >> so this is a good investment the money side is important we have to deal with 3 carefully but this is crucial from a business point of view and you have signature goodwill and. >> and the funding of registry your point with well-taken promoting the registry in the end one of the benefits is the problems. >> that's - so, now globulin this urban design hurdle and rick brought a pretty good rhythm in dealing with the applicants more importantly so did historic preservation commission and have the rents stabilization and the martha and branding. >> let's agendize the discussion after the rent stabilization as part 3 to be a

discussion of how we're going to maximize the benefits the registry. >> one item i want to piggyback on what you're doing do have a cvd in north beach i want to put this on the agendas for a future meeting some cvds are doing well and some cvds are not keeping the streets clean i share the clean streets is getting worse and areas that have cvds i contacted them their cleaning the streets and they're not cleaning the centers so it is effecting small businesses i have people don't want to come to the castro because upper market is a pigs sty i'll put that out in public and certain people are watch without calling out my name is (laughter) i didn't i stopped short a pigs

sty you call the cvds the city is supposed to be taking care of that and when i talk to the business owners they're saying what we we do i say attend our cvds meeting i'd like to agendize it some neighborhoods are it down to a path and novel is e mask - >> can i add one more thing and add an inquiry into some fees that are facilitated by the efforts street klein for example, the historic retailers have to pay for cleaning up cigarette butts and see where the funding is going firemen's in terms of street cleaning.

>> any other topics. >> may i ask for clarification on a cvd would you like a first review of the different cvds and what their mandates are and then. >> i pretty much know i helped several of them when you call some of the cvds or you're not getting the response i get a better response going on my mobile app and typing 311 that gets taken care of raw and some cvds are doing what their supposed to do just - >> you must have a different 311 than i do (laughter). >> okay. we can maybe. >> - >> all right. so where are we at. >> public comment. >> public comment. >> seeing none, public comment

is closed. >> okay final item adjournment action item. >> do we have a motion to adjourn. >> i'll move second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> we're out three-=legged stool at the i didn't o- >> sound familiar do you keep on getting up there's an easier

way. >> of course there's easier way get rid of of mosquito they breed whatever this is water no water no mosquito mosquito feed on good blood the eggs hatch and stay near the waters san francisco to breathe and the adult underlying mosquito waits on the as many until it's sexuality hardens water pools in any areas and creates places you'll not normally think of budget and any container that holds water and hidden in bushes or else were dump the water and do it over soil not into a drain the larva can continue growing in the pooled water is sewage disthe

first of its kind the area if the sewage is two extreme have a licensed plumber assist water pools in rain gutters and snaking and cleaning out the water when keep the water from pooling and keep in mind that mosquito breed in other waters like catch balgsz and construction barriers interest crawl spaces with clmg is an issue you may have is week to cause the water to collect this is an sour of mosquito so for buildings just fix the clean air act drains and catch basins can be mosquito ground it will eliminate it as a possible location keep shrubbery and growths estimated any water to can be seen and eliminated birdbath and fountains and uncovered hot tubs mosquito

breed but it is difficult to dump the water out of a hot top can't dump the water adding mosquito finish rids the source of mosquito there are also traditionally methods to protect you installing screens on windows and doors and using a mosquito net and politically aau planet take the time to do the things we've mentioned to eliminate standing water and make sure that mosquito are not a problem on your property remember no water no mosquito >> we're here to raise awareness and money and fork for

a good accuse. we have this incredible gift probably the widest range of restaurant and count ii destines in any district in the city right here in the mission intricate why don't we capture that to support the mission youths going to college that's for the food for thought. we didn't have a signature font for our orientation that's a 40-year-old organization. mission graduates have helped me to develop special as an individual they've helped me figure out and provide the tools for me that i need i feel

successful in life >> their core above emission and goal is in line with our values. the ferraris yes, we made 48 thousand >> they were on top of that it's a no-brainer for us. >> we're in and fifth year and be able to expand out and tonight is your ungrammatical truck food for thought. food truck for thought is an opportunity to eat from a variety of different vendor that are supporting the mission graduates by coming and representing at the parks >> we're giving a prude of our to give people the opportunity to get an education.

people come back and can you tell me and enjoy our food. all the vendor are xooment a portion of their precedes the money is going back in >> what's the best thing to do in terms of moving the needle for the folks we thought higher education is the tool to move young people. >> i'm also a college student i go to berkley and 90 percent of our folks are staying in college that's 40 percent hire than the afternoon. >> i'm politically to clemdz and ucla. >> just knowing we're giving back to the community. >> especially the spanish speaking population it hits

home. >> people get hungry why not eat and give the small business commission is also the official forum per policy and projects for people to state their concerns that affect the economic vitality of small businesses in san francisco. you can visit us here in person or on line and if you need assistance start here. >> item number 1 call to order and roll call. commissioner stephen adams. >> here. >> commissioner kathleen dooley is absent exused. commissioner mark dwight.