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these, right? go bikes. well good morning everybody and welcome to our civic center san francisco and really happy to see regional mayors and regional elected officials here. tom, i still got to get used to those genes. they don't let me wear jeans. yet. anyway, mayor bates, mayor sam ricardo of san jose elected officials are regional transportation official, local, scott weiner on my mdc is my appointee there working really hard. kelly working very hard as well. and our friends from ford motor company mobility company. this is helping all of us understand the definition of transportation networks. it's no longer just about an automobile with a driver. as we have more discussions, and as us mayors get on bart to

promote the needs that we have in the region, transportation is a regional challenge and the solutions have to be regional. they have to be with our corporate partners as well. so, ideas are coming forth and the nice part about ford is we formed this relationship some time ago when we were trying to get a smart city challenge grant to the feds. but, one of the promises that i think today is a forthcoming is that it wasn't just a partnership that was fun to be around a grant and was about a partnership about being a smart city and a smart region which will last well beyond the grant. i think, today, were looking at where those solutions we are articulated we put together what smart cities in the future and today ought to be all about. that is, regionalism with our partners, but having

alternative modes that get us the first mile, but also talk about the last mile of everybody's trick. this is what we get to do today. i'm very proud of this partnership with ford with the mobility sector, with her innovation team them up but also working in conjunction with our mta are mpc, regional partners, i'm proud that as we do this for the first time bike share expanded to the east bay, and that is a tremendous >>[applause] real reflection of how this collaborative effort will work. we are going to grow. can you imagine 10 fold increase in bike share? 708, to 7000 in the next probably just a few years. because from the day that we are seeing in this world and the way it happened in new york with ford's leadership is can

grow tenfold very very fast as we make locations to pick up bike share very convenient for everybody wants to use them. this is one of those really real life answers to peoples mobility, real-life challenges that we are creating solutions on. we were no longer just talking about the challenge. were going to offer solutions as we get together you're going to find a lot more solutions that come out of our mouths as elected officials because we get to work with the private sector in our agencies and advocates to make sure that solutions is what we go out with. congratulations. thank you for my thank you for your leadership but also thank you for all of the elected officials the bay area getting together with all of us to find the solutions and to discover them and make them available and accessible for all types of families and users that the bay area. thank you. >>[applause] >> okay. so, now we are going

to jump across the bait and i'd like to introduce mayor tom bates of berkeley. mayor bates. >>[applause] >> thank you very much for the opportunity to say a few words. we are extremely excited about the prospects of getting these incredible operations these incredible bicycles coming to the east bay. we anticipate this would be something like 1000 350 bicycles that will be available for the east bay. oakland will be getting a substantial portion. berkeley city get 400 bicycles coming and probably next spring. but it's really wonderful what's happening in i was very fortunate to be on the mpc and certainly mirrors the conference and to be able to advocate for this because this is the day we been thinking about and hoping about and praying about that will come about. because, this is the future. folks, we believe very strongly that we

want to walk walkable livable bicycle friendly city and were now in the process of redoing our bicycle plan to make sure that we make it as safe as possible and as convenient as possible. so, having this as an opportunity to come along and be part of it so exciting. so, i'm really happy this hat is happening congratulations to further. congratulations to mpc and for making this happen. it's a great day for the bay area. thank you. >>[applause] >> okay. i'm getting my exercise this morning going up and down. now were going to jump to the south bay and i'd like to introduce mayor sam ricardo that of san jose. >>[applause] >> well, good morning. this is exciting. were there to see bikes reproducing like bunnies all throughout the bay area. it

should happen here. yes, we embrace silicon valley technology but 10 times the old technology are the best. particularly when we think about how it is we are going to protect our environment and save our planet. for those of us who peddle what we preach, we know the future looks an awful lot like the technology to my left. we certainly know that were going to do all we can to continue to build out transit. we appreciate the innovation and the great companies like ford to produce electric car infrastructure, but we also need a first mile, last mile solution for folks who need to get to and from transit in the city like san jose that so critical because we've got big ambitions right now building out bart system standing outran capacity all converging at the station will we have 600 trains a day moving through within a decade

becoming the busiest multimodal station west of the mississippi. this will be a critical tool to ensure that people can get to and from transit and in san jose, because of the great leadership of j walter and his team at motivate 60% of the new bike share stations are going to be serving communities of concern. underserved communities. were motivated to offering a lower tier price plan to ensure that all of our community can benefit from this exceptional opportunity. so, i'm very excited good i'm so excited i'm actually a member bay area bike share. i'm proud to be at card-carrying member. >>[applause] yes. but i have to give a shout out here to supervisor scott weiner who is been a champion of this. they came for the his vision really well before we even watched by jeff. thank you very much scott. and thank the entire team. thank you mayor lee and thank you for, for your investment and your vision. >>[applause]

>> all right. well it's be powerful when you have san jose and you have berkeley and san francisco all working together. that is pretty amazing. to round it off, i would love to introduce the chairman of the metropolitan transportation commission and that is dave cortez the. [sp?] dave? >>[applause] >> well, thank you very much. earlier this morning mayor ricardo and i were talking about the fact that if you keep for testing a feature based on what you've done in the past you continue to get the same problems that we created in the past good in this case, ford is not doing that. ford is changing the future. metropolitan transportation commission is changing the future and motivated changing the future not depending on the

old ways of the past. so thank you so much and think you, mark for the inter-document there's no question that you know this, but i don't know if everybody else in the audience knows that back in the 1890s, henry ford called the first car ever built the quadra cycle. i'm not sure if mr. ford quite english and that his company would someday sponsor a bike sharing program out here in california and in fact if we could hear him now you probably would be saying, who would've thought. who would've thought? but i also admire the way that ford has embraced inclusiveness that we at mtc with front and center when we conduct last year with motivate to operate and expand the bay area bike share network. i said, at that time, it was one of the biggest initiatives that we have launched with a sense of optimism and hope that someday we be standing here with this kind of a partnership. because of the fact is that bicycling

is a great way for almost everyone to get around, you don't need $1000 carbon fiber frame. a splashy spandex outfit or holier than thou attitude you all you need is a willing pair of legs from yesterday reliable bike and a safe place to lock it up, of course. we all need to travel someplace to place. doesn't matter if we are rich or poor, old or young cock tall or short, what language we speak we all have places to go. so we at mtc and the people at motivate and working together to make sure as the bay area bike share network grows the mobility advantages are shared among all the people in all the communities that this network serves. a minimum of 20% of all the new ford will bike stations be located in neighborhoods that mtc is designated as

communities of concern. if you are not familiar with that term, those are areas with high numbers of households that don't own a car were headed by single parents were in which most of their monthly income goes to pay rent. this is very very important to us at mtc to the counties and cities we represent. committees of concern also include neighborhoods with high proportion of residents who are low income. were seniors or disabled or nonwhite were not proficient in english. to everyone who wants to use for the right to build ouzo ford and motivate world make low-cost medicines available to customers in holding utilities lifeline programs. motivate is also done a great job of working with residents businesses and local elected officials like myself identified the very best locations for new bike share stations. they have like that within 120 stations owned. the selection process can give you i encourage everyone who's interested in bike sharing not just in san jose in san

francisco and berkeley, whereby she or isn't pending for the first time but also in oakland, in emeryville, everyone to get involved. dozens of public workshops and outreach party been held in a guilty part in more of that to come as the process continues. the launch of four to go bike is really a cause for celebration. i know we all feel that your ticket just like the quadra cycle, evolved after a few years into the model t and revolutionized personal transportation in the process, ford go bike she was a bike sharing is no longer an alternative transportation but a smart convenient reliable and affordable choice for the short trips that we all make. what better place to watch a program like this then in the bay area, silicon valley. thank you, ford thank you motivate thank you all for our partners here in the bay area. >>[applause] >> okay. i'm sure that henry

ford was alive today he would take one of these person on the street right here right now. he was an innovator through and through. but, i do want to underscore something that we've heard from each of our guests this morning. cities nationally and globally are obviously facing extraordinarily new challenges. gridlock is not only affecting economic growth, but pollution is affecting our health but also the environment. it's very clear that the transportation system that we developed during the last 100 years is not going to work for the next 100 years. what cities need now is a partner to deliver solutions for the next century. i want to tell you today that ford is deeply committed to being that

partner. we were the first automaker to work with cities to tackle these new mobility challenges and we're bringing our 100 year, plus transportation knowledge and experience to address them. now, to some, this might seem like a pig of a departure from the business of building great cars and trucks, but the truth is, this is what we were born to do. because helping people-helping make making people's lives better as part of our dna as a company. because more than 100 years ago as was mentioned, henry ford he did not set out just to build a car. but he set out to do is give people the power to travel beyond the technological limits of the time. if for delete and excessively making transportation to millions of people and not just the elite

folks. so, when henry ford perfected the moving assembly line was able to produce obviously believe the model t's for everyday people and he pioneered higher wages that help create the middle class here in america. the result was the largest explosion in personal mobility that the world had ever seen at the time. now, it is time for the next chapter in mobility. today, we are announcing ford is teaming up with cities around the world and we could not be more proud to be starting here in san francisco to chart a new path in the new century. so, during the next eight years, ford is going to be in investing in a number transportation initiatives all of which are aimed at improving mobility. the area. the first part of this plan is the creation of a shuttle service that can supplement the and expand the reach of traditional mass transit. we are announcing this morning that we are acquiring chariot a crowd sourced shuttle service based right here in san francisco and their ceo,

ali-holly, raise your hand-okay. he is happy and the members of the chariot team. all right, great. >>[applause] they're all with us today we cannot be more proud than other the part of the ford family. the chariot, the chariot shuttle complement mass transit with fast libel and comfortable service. right now, mass transit systems in cities around the world are under a lot of strain. here in the us, it's a particularly distinct problem for underserved communities. we are a bus routes are subway lines don't aren't always convenient. and getting to work or getting to school can be expensive and time-consuming which is actually is a silent barrier to progress. afterward, we pay attention to this. we actually think about this every single day. working with communities

such as san francisco article very simply is to drive down the cost of mobility so that nobody gets left behind. from the very earliest days afterward, we have been committed to getting millions of people where they want and where they need to go. it's not just a business for us. it is what drives us every single day and it's the reason why we come to work every single day. that is why we are so excited about shovels. they don't require big infrastructure upgrades. they can rapidly adapt based on demand and they reduce the number of cars on the road in congested urban areas. i really think this is an ideal marriage of our core business and are merging mobility businesses. the ford transit is the best-selling band in the us. lastly the best-selling band

around the world, in part because it can be adapted to fit the needs of our wide variety of customers. it's the perfect platform for our dynamic shuttle solution. it shows the ways in which we are taking our work using our traditional knowledge and based on that, solving new transportation solutions. so, it's a win for everyone. we plan to grow our shuttle service to at least five additional cities and markets in the next 18 months. but shovels are not obviously the only transportation solution that we are pursuing. our approach is how do we offer cities a suite of solutions? egress window no two cities are looking what works in san francisco may not necessarily work in shanghai. so in addition to the new dynamic shuttle service, we are developing some great obviously

two wheeled transportation solutions. today, we are announcing off easily were partnering with motivate and their ceo, j walter, and to expand by sharing here in the bay area with the new ford go bike and as the mayor mentioned, we have plans to add an additional 7000 bikes in the bay area by 2018 emma all of which will be accessible through our ford pass by phone. what we will do is we will use the traffic data that we collect from the bikes to build an interconnected mobility platform. and a network and what we will do, it will provide real-time data that helps plan your commute based on weather conditions, usage patterns, and of course, bike availability. fundamentally, we know bikes can be an essential part of transportation solutions in the city is the

mayors were just talking about. plus, they, they have no emissions. this exam you get a little exercise which is a good thing it's a fun way to get around. so we think it's a win for everybody involved. today, also marks the company the kickoff of a new team we are creating inside the company called, city solutions. the teams goal and your goal is to work with cities around the world to conceptualize and then implement new ways of getting locals as well as visitors around town and getting them where they want to go and doing it easily. whether that is through dynamic shuttles or whether that's through autonomous vehicles arrived billing services or bike sharing . it's all of the above. we are starting this partnership in service two cities right here in san francisco and we will be expanding it under the leadership of jim hackett and our new ford smart mobility llc.

so, as you think about it you've heard the ceo of a major automotive company global automotive company talking about bicycles and shovels right it's a little different than what were used to. but that is because i believe that we are in the midst of a transformational moment in the history of transportation. not only in here in san francisco, not only here in the united states, but around the globe. ford is not only just an automaker anymore. we are also a mobility company and we are expanding our entire business to focus on both of those things. because we fundamentally understand that the world is changing. i think we are uniquely equipped 12 cities and hope locals and help travelers to those cities are like adapt to the changes that we see going forward. for us, we also see it simply as an

anonymous business opportunity as well but it's actually something even more important for us. you know, as i mentioned henry ford, he drove radical change at the start of the 20th century. a change that helps people around the world follow their dreams and help build better lives. with the freedom-what transportation don't worry about it i would just wing it. when you think about that it's amazing for us to be able to be part of this. to be part of taking this transformation and what our founder did over 100 years ago and allowing us to participate to hope that transformation going forward starting in cities like san francisco and moving it across the globe. that's who we are. that's what we want to do to serve and we are so excited about doing it together going forward. so, with that, i know i mayors have

some work to do to keep the cities running, so we like to give all of them a hand as they obviously have to go back to their day jobs. >>[applause] >> at this point, we would like to invite up our panel members and as part of that one of our panel members, jake, will say a few words. >>[applause] >> thank you. i just was going to come up. they were delighted to be working with ford, could we are thrilled to be working with ford. it's really wonderful, but i also want to highlight the really hard work that everybody has done at the mtc, at the cities, in the advocacy community. this is only possible today because were building on the foundation of everything you've done. thank you very very much. >>[applause] >> good morning everyone. my

name is doug newcomb present at father of the sparrow also journalists covering card technology for long long time and i have to say this is such an exciting time. as mark mentioned you kind of wonder what is an automaker sparrow 'weren't such a important time here. seeing all these things come together on mobiles of course public transportation with a great fan of your elect him quickly introduce themselves. doing a little more deeper dive into what mark and some of the mayors talked about today. >> thank you lunch impacted executive chairman of ford's smart mobility llc. we'll talk about what it does a little later. >> hello. i'm all about the

founder and ceo of chariot and very excited to be on the stage and sharing his panel. >> j welder ceo of motivate and just thrilled. >> great. let's go a head and get stuck. now the city's announcement with fourth collaboration with motivate innovative. jp your long history of working with cities to address mobility challenged. as you start to think about urban mobility, what role do you see but explain as part of the transportation system? >> sure. i come to it wraps of a little different perspective than ford does. my history is actually running large transit systems that i had the good fortune to run the transit system in new york in hong kong and in london. those are incredibly powerful machines for development in the way that the city's work. a couple of years ago, when i started to tell people that i was going to leave that and go to run a bike

sharing company, people look at me i can as a matter fact they sent it to me-are you crazy? but, i have to tell you that i've never been happier going to work than i am today. one of the things that actually is happening in our cities in the way that i think about this is we are actually seeing a revolution in the way that we get around cities. it's not the way it was 20 years ago or even 10 years ago. bike sharing program were talking about today whether this is a company that operates 30,000 bicycles 12 cities across the world, five years ago we were operating 400 bicycles. that is the difference in the growth that is taking place. if i were to think about a city and said, if i stood on the stage v years ago and said, you could find a

city in the united states is where there will be 10 million bike share trips per year, 10 million, you would have looked at me like i was crazy. we had 10 million bike share trips in new york last year. it blows me away in terms of how quickly it's happening and the way in which it is becoming part of the fabric of cities. >> there's always a lot of moving parts and no pun intended to transportation of cities. so i want to speak about obviously motivate works up close without test rotation commission ice and glaciers executive success one of the key enablers for cities to have a robust bike sharing program as part of a larger transportation system? bedecked look i think it's the report the mtc is fantastic as they provide a regional framework for what's going on.

their vision was about making small incremental changes their vision is about making things that really believe make a difference. what's going on in the region and they don't see it as being good enough to just hit part about being on they want a regional approach to what was happening. that's hugely important part into a get a second part is a city level. the idea of the way cities transforming their physical space. the infrastructure that is being built. i mean san francisco has built more than 400 miles of bike lanes in the last 10 years. does it matter? it matters enormously. the mode share with doubling of bicycle users in san francisco over the last decade. that's amazing. third, i would say within the cities, we have to recognize that last week level as. the advocacy groups. the san

francisco by coalition silicon valley by coalition. these groups in this area have been absolutely fundamental to establishing the framework of allowing things like this to happen. then, the ability to stay in here today and i said before, and i can't say it enough, we skin standards and do this because these groups have been doing all this work collectively for the last decade. >> a lot of moving parts. mark mentioned how unusual it is to have an automaker talk about mobility solution. i then allowed to 40 events and there's usually a vehicle inside why is ford getting involved in sheer transportation especially bike? >> i have to say is very proud of my comments this morning because they captured something that's important which is if you can stand in how to did you see the city as one system might you can stand back and think about that and you see our vehicles moving in that system, with ford sees in the vehicles it sees the people. the people that are in those

vehicles have a life that transcends aspects of being in the vehicle and being outside of it. we call that multimodal. as a consequence our interest is in the date of the life of the traveler, what are the pain points they face and how can we help improve their life as they traveled? how can we make the modes of transportation as we stare at it at high altitude be one system? this is the reason we start to see the city really as our partner in this effort. we could just called city solutions here in san francisco is our first effort at that and what i'm most excited about, as mark hinted, there is data coming from all aspects of

these nodes on the network. the bikes of any transmitting it to the cloud the dynamic shuttle is can be communicating can would have away these two systems help the user now have a better day. >> i'm glad you mentioned that because the other not but here today is ford's acquisition of chariot and i really like what was talked about today hosted a serve underserved community. you mentioned i want to ask, allie, how do charles put into the future the future urban mobility? >> a number of ways. i'm glad you mentioned underserved areas because one of the things that chariot is doing it certainly, lamenting the public mass transit system by providing access additional capacity to underserved areas and actually underserved kinds of days like the commute when a demand for mass transit services is highest. but give you an example. one day, we walked into the office on a monday and we thought there were several hundred votes to crowd source a

certain bout between downtown san francisco and the fisherman's wharf district where there's a lot of hospitality businesses by caltrans cruises mucky ppr 39 on other hotels. delhi square. those companies actually employ a ton of hourly workers hospitality workers were coming from the east bay using bart. what we found was all of these voters for this commute between downtown san francisco and the tourist district were actually the employers coming in and encouraging their employees to crowd source a bout, a chariot route and overnight we had several hundred customers coming in from the east they using bart as their main trunk line using chariot as a last mile commute between downtown and their hospitality jobs. in the morning and getting back to bart to go home in the evening

something we were really proud about. before the word multimodal pure a number of times as well. chat it just becomes a nether option for city rollers to actually get around town a lot more efficiently and hopefully keep their car in the garage until saturday and sunday. finally, we are not only a-we are actually ceding the mass transit services. we are really proud to say that one in five chariot riders is actually using the service as a first and last mile commute to things like bart and caltrain, the ferry system and transbay bus terminals. whereas, people were driving to pile also or berkeley another taking chariot to caltrain, jumping on the baby bullet and getting to work without having to take the card out of barrage >> i think one of the things that were seeing now is all the pieces coming into place like you mentioned is not just one

would've transportation. it's many are glad you mentioned the underserved because my group worked closely with sec. fox and the dot for the smart city child. the one thing i took away from it is i think it's 20% of income for the income families goes to chess notation as opposed to 70% for middle-class families. this is around the globe. so jim, i want you to talk about what role do you see shuttles playing globally because as mark mentioned, this is not just the us that ford is looking up at a global solution? >> on vitale to help me with this answer but the opportunity is the inevitable growth of population in cities for example in china by 2030, 75% of its population will be in cities. some of the cities have not even been built yet. so were going to need a system solution that's well-designed just like talking about here in san francisco to handle that

population in these dense cities. what happens is, is refine all over the world the issues of the same in the systems. probably the way our electrical grids and computer networks are the same all over the world. [inaudible] >> i agree, jim. when my inspirations for founding chariot was when i was traveling around the world i would see chariot type services in mexico city or point is always a: collecting those [sp?] tel aviv is really calm [inaudible]. we did not invent the concept. we're just going to use technology and all the resources that we now have a really proud to partner with ford and take chariot to the next level so that we can create the perfect urban community commute >> to wrap up, jim and i like to hear from all the panels on final thoughts as we think that

cities as the future helping companies like ford would've eight and chariot continue to work with cities on mobility solutions and am really curious to hear how the use of ford city solutions work as well? >> i want to answer that but first i want to pay some thomas today because jay's history, if you look up his background he's been involved in design and managing big urban systems in china, for example. when he talked to me about the role that the pipe laid in this model of the future, it wasn't long for me to understand how important this was. as you heard the mayor celebrating the role it's going to play. then, we have the notion just limited had 61,000 riders in new york, one day this week. so, it tells you there is it really important demand here that is for us to unleash together.

and, as we think about this in the future, remember her now can have data that helps us to see the invisible roots that we tell each other how did you go from here to there. what actually can i know what those are in ways that we can make transportation system together. >> i went out on a couple things and thank you very much for the comments, jim. i think one of the things we are seeing is that cities are evolving incredibly quickly. the base is changing in cities. the way in which people want to be using areas and patterns of movement. actually, outstripped our ability to be will to respond to just traditional transportation models to be able to do that. the 20th century, if you think about it, was a century where studies were shaped by infrastructure in the development of cities came alongside the infrastructure. the 21st century has not been like that at all. we are reshaping cities around us all the time right now. i think one of the times

that it usually important in both of these initiatives show this, are things that create a canvas that people can paint themselves. that they can fill this in a way that is if it's them and ultimately, yes, they made need to be more heavier scale and larger infrastructure investment to be will to do that, what part of this issue and, i think, if you can get this type of system out there if you can put the technology behind it people will shape it to with they wanted to be >> so, doug, when you asked me how the sunni cities feeling about this, we can get to them fast enough. in fact, i have to say, i'm proud of this could they said there's not very many automotive manufacturers talking to us. really, ford is leading the way and thinking about the city as a partner in helping come up with these solutions. speeches were very proud in our home city of san francisco that we've been very well received from city hall, supervisors and the districts where chariot is helping their

constituents heading to work and homes faster more reliably and you touched on something about affordability. chariot's average affair is four dollars. so, we are using technology that outsourcing technology, to figure out where the bunches of people are and driving down costs and this is, with ford's hope, we and the data and telematics and all of the systems were going to continue to put in place, we are excited to drive the cost down even further. >> as you mentioned, it's a systematic approach a systemwide approach. i think that louisa take away. here we have someone from an automaker someone, dynamic shuttle service, by giant and i think the other thing is, what i've seen and this is one my takeaways from working with the dot, to the med were talking with all the mayors and we saw three of them here today. mayor

, atlanta said last year that an event saying, we want to get elected. transportation is a huge part of what makes a city livable. with meir adler in boston as well. i think the bottom line is this technology and j, you touched on it the technology is really going to shake it be broken to shape the technology. i think the take away we are going to see all these different solutions coming together and i too applaud ford for taking the lead in doing this with smart mobility in bringing these things together. so we will wrap up there. we will be available for questions after we wrap up here. so, if you have questions for the individual panelists, please he is after the settlement with that i'd like to wrap up and like to thank the board and also motivate and chariot and of course the city of san francisco for hosting us today. so, thanks very much.

>>[applause] >> >> >>to order. can you please turn off your electronic devices as they tend to interfere with the equipment in the room. can you please rise for the pledge of allegiance. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

vice-president turman, i would like to call roll. >> please do. >> commissioner president loftus is excused. vice-president turman, commissioner marshall, commissioner dejesus, commissioner mazzucco, commissioner hwang, commissioner melara. >> ladies and gentlemen. welcome to the wednesday september 21, 2016, police commission meeting. as sergeant has just

informed us president loftus is not here this evening. let's go to item 1. >>clerk: item 1 question of the chief of police to accept donation of a 2009 traverse from san jose police department to be used by the sfpd internet crimes against children valid at approximately 6386. request of lieutenant rene pagano. >> we have item 1 which is a donation of a chevrolet traverse and

the other item 4 coffee mugs to be used in the coffee room. any questions? public comment on the consent calendar, please. public speaker: this is one of the major issues that is going back for the police academy for non-payment to protect children and environment because of a report as interfering

with all these and carried out professionally which they always have different ideas. some of these ideas wasn't professional of the police academy in that which we should have done. this is one of the more reasons why it has been out spoken out form. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, the consent calendar has been moved for acceptance by commissioner melara and

second by commissioner mazzucco. i believe a voice vote is acceptable. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? thank you. the items on the consent calendar are accepted. i'm sorry, i forgot to say at the beginning and i had already informed secretary that public comment will be 2 minutes this evening because of the many items on the agenda. secretary, next item, please. >> item 2 reports to the commission discussion to a, chiefs report. this item is to allow the chief of police to report on recent police department activities and make announcements. update the professional standards bureau in regards to collaborative review status bureau organization. update regarding civil grand jury report san francisco's crime lab promoting confidence and building credibility. report regarding the blessing scam. >> i will bring up my report and i

will try to be brief on my basic report. for homicides this year we are down, our shootings are down 4%. gun violence and homicide by firearms are down 15%. crime citywide is down 14%.ch robberies are down 17%, firearms seized year to date are 104. total firearms seized since summer is 78. burglaries are down 29%. there was an assault on a police officer

on the 300-block. of eleven worth. there was a call for help. they sprayed the officer with an extinguisher. the officers were treated and released. for shootings, we had one on the 1400-block of sunny dale on 9/15, at 7:55 p.m.. folks heard gunshots. the victim was located with a gunshot wound to the right side and in stable condition at san francisco state hospital. the next shooting on ham stead with no arrest made. officers responded to a shots fired call. the gunshot

victim was between two parked cars. medics transported the victim to the hospital and was in stable but in critical condition. the other was on cannon street with no arrest made on the 17 approximately at 12:14 a.m.. officers were dispatched to the area of 15 shots of turk and buchanan street. two people were transported to the hospital and 1 person had a laceration and the second victim a gunshot wound. our team receives physical evidence. the other shooting was on september 18, 2016, at approximately 2:15 a.m..

the officers were notified by shots fired activation of 6-7 shots. upon arrival, 13 bullet casings were located but no victims were found. the next shooting incident on the 1500-block of wallace avenue. that was 9/18. it was at 9:00 p.m.. the initial investigation revealed that subject one admitted he fired a gun while pointing to the sky. they contacted csi for pick up. there were two subjects booked for that possession of the firearm discharged in a negligent manner. as homicides for the year we are at 31. we are down from last year. there was a homicide an no arrest was made. this is where the victim

obtained injuries about a month ago and didn't make it from those injuries. on august 23rd, of this at approximately 12:55 an officer was dispatched to a person yelling and screaming. he was found with trauma to the head. with that, that will end my report, and i will now call captain conley up to update with the bureau with the police status and bureau organization. >> good evening. welcome.

>> good evening, vice-president turman, director hicks, chief chaplain. i'm from the police bureau. it will be a very brief presentation. these are the items that are going to be covered tonight. the training manual featuring the police content. collaborative review. the white house police data initiative. the d oj recommended transgender training video. additional training, updates on body worn camp race, impartial policing and blue courage, and update from the crisis intervention team and youth recruitment and the occ

recommendations in response to commissioners dejesus request a couple months ago. first of all, the department of justice released in july and august 4th manuals. the united states department of justice released four manuals in which best practices are outlined. the four manuals how to increase understanding, how to work in -- how to serve diverse communities, and how to support trust building in your agency. and combatting youth violence in american cities. some of the highlights include obviously the sf p.d. mediation policy. we had some come in with a complaint and talked through the process and the opportunity to educate the public and offer remedies

for those problems. outline blue courage which is a philosophy talked throughout the nation. we are heavily involved in it by teaching our members and external agency about what blue courage is. community policing is a model taken from new york back in the 90s as is developed to what is today and we have a work in progress and we continue to improve on that program. there is a two page write-up about the san francisco police department and the mayor's office talking about the ipo program which is the interrupt, predict and organize crime reduction strategy. that is an award-winning strategy. if you look at the fourth manual on youth crime, it outlines that our crime reduction paid off. we had a 36% drop in

homicides from 2012-2014 . the collaborative review which the department of justice is reviewing department areas of use of force by police and procedural justice, supervisory and accountability. they stopped collecting data since august. the last time was august 16th. we are very close to having a report issued within the next 6 weeks. we've already had implicit bias training. officers went through this in august. we have initiated through the training division, implicit bias division put on by the department of human resources demanded by the department of justice and all levels

of managers and captains are in training. this is a snap shot that we created. this incorporates all reports issued. >> [inaudible]. >> excuse me captain. dependence reading admonishment about interruption of the meeting this time. please there are to be no interruptions. if you have a comment, please do that during public comment. the next time there is an outburst, i will have the secretary read those rules. we will follow them strictly. >> this has gone through all the reports and gone through the recommendation from the blue panel and policing. we have identified

all areas. we have a 15 page working document. we are waiting for the doj report to see where all of these recommendations fall under the umbrella of the department of justice. white house police data initiative was another program that generated out of the 21-century policing president obama's report. essentially san francisco police department is one of 53 agencies of 15,000 law enforcement agencies involved in the data initiative. we are in frequent phone calls with the white house. in order to be involved in this program, we have to provide three data sets. that's the minimum criteria. so we provide traffic stop data, department demographics and officer involved shootings. this is the department website and it is

accessible. it's a challenge to get it, but it's listed there. >> sir, please take your seat. sir please take your seat immediately. i'm sorry, captain. secretary kilshaw, please read the admonishment. >> rules of order. members of the public entitled to comment on any action on the item. people have the opportunity to comment on items and have not been the subject of public comment on other items on the agenda. the president makes a reasonable time limit for each speaking depending on the complexity of the item

and the number of persons to speak on the item. tonight's public comment will be limited to 2 minutes. speakers must speak from the podium and speak clearly into the microphone. speakers are reframed from using profanity and yelling and screaming. members of the public should address their questions or remarks to the commission. neither the police nor personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions except when required to do so by the president. commissioners and personnel shall refrain from entering into discussion during public comment. applause and booing are prohibited. you may not display signs to impede the public oren danger any

meeting participant. cameras and taping devices maybe brought in the room although you are prohibited from using camera flash that may disrupt the meeting. disorderly conduct that disrupt the meetings such as making noise or speaking out of term or otherwise refusing to comply with the rules governing the meeting. boisterous conductor violent disturbance tending to disrupt the orderly course of the meeting. disobedience of any lawful order which shall include an order to be seated. >> okay. to the gentleman who had two public outburst and stood up twice during this meeting, i find this behavior disruptive.

i am asking you to correct your before here after, if it's not done so, i will ask that you be removed from the proceedings. >> captain, please continue and i apologize. >> thank you, commissioner, the next few slides. the next the department of justice has reviewed through their website transgender training video. we are planning to take that video into roll call training for personnel to improve our awareness of transgender public. we developed a draft transgender policy. >> i find this behavior disruptive. sheriff's officer please remove the individual from these proceedings.

>> captain, please continue. >> thank you, commissioner. i'm almost done. essentially we were able to bring the subject matter in a 48-hour period including humanity rights commissioner teresa sparks who provided valuable information to us and we have a draft department general order to making it's way through concurrence process and some point in the near future it will be presented to the commission for adoption. the bayview station with the body camera update. bayview station is 99.8 complete. they will be completed at training in the couple of weeks. the training is

currently at the northern station and will continue in the next 4 weeks. by the time thanksgiving happens, the body camera program will have been introduced to all of patrol. >> this first policy update currently the sfpd task unit reviewing a shield as a barrier during escalation situations. even though the shields represented in this slide are more of a riot type shields. they are not the type shields we'll be employing. it's just a visual aid. we are looking at different types of equipment. some of the best practices and similar policies in exploring at different agencies including the international community. the crisis intervention team has moved to the office bureau because it's primarily a patrol based

function. it is a better place, a better resting home for that unit and the direct involvement with field operations. discussions continue with the mental health working group and the policy development phase and the department general order is still in the development phase at this point and it will be coming to you at some point in the future. recruitment efforts. again, in response to commissioner dejesus questions about our recruitment efforts. we follow the california peace officer standard guidelines, 21 years of age with a high school education. this is done primarily not to exclude personnel or people who might otherwise be ineligible. if we request a component from the onset, that might exclude potentially communities of color who might not have that requisite. we follow that standard and we have quite

successful rate of bringing people in. in 2015 alone, there was 227 recruitment engagements and the events are obviously listed there from community events to job fair to say and what not. community college, state college, private schools. we are aggressively seeking out candidates. and from july, beginning of july to end of august, we had 419 candidates signed up expressing interest. that's quite a few candidates. realize we are targeting the same group of people that all agencies are targeted. our challenge is ahead of us. again, boot camp and testing process. we are preparing candidates for the testing process and entry process. there is one new component mobile advertisement. a collaboration where someone

receives information on their smartphone within the bay area, it will pop-up with the san francisco police recruitment notification. it's a pop-up. okay, now we are coming to the end. occ identified 19 recommendations in response to president's 21st century police report. the police department responded to 18 recommendations. these 19 recommendations although i don't have a slide for them are integrated into the "matrix" i showed you earlier. there is every intention to continue collaboration not only with occ but other authors to ensure they are covered under the department of justice collaborative review. again, additional policies, these are all living policies at this point. they are all integrated and

we continue to have discussions. that is the presentation. >> thank you, captain conley. do you want to have questions per? >> chief, we'll ask you back up for questions shortly. >> thank you, captain, up next is deputy smith with regard to the san francisco report from the crime lab and reporting credibility. >> deputy chief smith, good evening. >> good evening commissioners, director hicks. this is a brief update to the status of the civil grand jury report on the crime lab. to kind of give a run up since this is the first time we reported on it and the 2015-2016 civil grand jury chose a project, a study of the crime

lab. in the first quarter of 2016, they undertook a study visiting the lab which was at the naval shipyard, d. a.'s, public defenders and people from the industry at large. they finished up that review in march and started working on the report and produced the report june 1st, titled crime lab and promoting compatibility. the city administrator was tasked to present the report to john k stuart on july 31st. on september 1st, we appeared before the board of supervisors, government and oversight committee where supervisor peskin and march had a presentation from us on the content of the report and a question and answer question to clarify their response. the report itself is accessible on the

civil grand jury website. our responses, we published to the presiding judge and put those on the website. they are also available here for the public. the area is covered in the report. included management of the lab starting from the leadership to the oversight of the work and the work processing systems. the technology and equipment we used mostly focusing on our case management and how we track what we do. the communication with stakeholders and the public including how we reflect priorities and needs. stream lining of work, educating the public and communitying with survivors. and scientific outreach to the greater community out in san francisco. there were 22 total findings and 23 recommendations in the report.

in the findings you agree or disagree. there was no response. that once certified us as we held certification for the last 5 years. of the 20 remaining findings we agreed with 60% of them. there were changes in the penal code that tightened up timelines for responding of processing for sexual assault case evidence and that complicated the forensic case in general. no one disagrees with it. it's true. we disagreed partially with four of them and we disagreed wholly with four of them. with recommendations, there were 23 total recommendations. it's a little different recommendations. those are suggestions solutions to what they believe is the issue. you are either tasked with saying that you implemented the recommendation, that you have not yet

implemented it but you will. that requires further analysis or that it will not be implemented. again, one required no responsible because it congratulated us for meeting the iso standard which is the national standard. and three required the city administrator or controller response. we are not within our purview. of the 19 remaining, 60% of them we said we already implemented. another one was in process of being implemented. that was a website and a customization. both were implemented or close to being implemented. seven of them required further analysis. most had to do with staffing analysis. they were recommending solutions and more

analysis on how the staff had to be carried out needed to be done before implemented. one would not be implemented and that would have to be the reporting structure reporting before the forensic director. i can talk about that as we get to that position. the latest status then, a new facility. as you know in 2014, there was a bond approved for earthquake safety improvement. $165 million project to purchase land through the architectural design and construct a brand new crime lab for san francisco. this lab will be state of the art. it will have all the disciplines, dna, impressions, alcohol and narcotics. it collocates csi so all can be done

in the lab. it also provides space for the expansion of the new multimedia evidence unit. as you know we are relying more and more on video evidence in our cases and all has to be processed so we get the best evidence from it. so that facility is in the final stages of the design review with the architect. in fact yesterday we hosted a jury review of the plan and had final recommendations and taken that back for what it presented for the neighborhood. the new building will be on evans. there is a building there now but it will be taken down and there will be a brand new structure. it also will house a brand new traffic division. earthquake concerns being the funding for this property. other areas is the leadership question. we believe for the discipline

of forensics to serve this city, we must establish a business model with an individual with a strong scientific background and demonstrated management skill for personnel, budget and objective processing of evidence. with that window we have taken to the department of human resources the process which to identify the person and select and hire that person. so, we have identified the position we are going to use for the structure, the funding for the position, bm 2's are developed for the position working with h r and contacted bob murray and associates, search committee. thank you. who will run this for us. we had our kickoff meeting to define the process. dhr is manning the contract for us. it's lined out as a 16-week

process and we are under way for that process. this forensic's services director will over see the totality of the forensics services division including the crime lab itself, csi and identification. >> staffing. there were a number of recommendations which dealt with staffing for the crime lab. several of them dealt with the quality of the divisions manager making sure you are doing the right training and testing if you are staff. and for a number of reasons, they believed that we didn't have that position filled. however that position is fill and continues to be filled by a full time quality assurance manager, and that person has had the full training and interacts with members of the forensic community throughout the country and the local bay

area. that was in the number of recommendations and that was not an issue for us. initially the report speaks to needing more staffing to handle the level of work especially in the area of dna that is focused a lot and we agree. as you know, the hiring process is complex for the city and also in this discipline, it's very difficult. it's very competitive field. however, we have hired this fall six new dna analyst for the police department's crime lab. four of them have started employment out at the lab and started their training. one more is coming at the end of next week and the third moving from out of state starts in october. this is a great refresher to the dna lab. it takes quite some time to get through the testing and accreditation procedure so they can be on board to fully absorb the work, but that process has started and

continues for these six dna analyst position. the firearms position is more difficult with recruitment. we are working with the right manager to make sure we get that level. we continue to move forward on id position. we have a strategy for bringing people on bored -- aboard and timeline so we are not duplicating efforts. among the tasks that we are going to have for the forensic director will be a plan to cover multiyear. that is on the planning based on the level of work we get and based on the growth and development on the different disciplines in the industry. to hire the right amount of people and bring them on the series and support the work at the lab while

developing new talent at the lab. that will be something we'll ask this individual that we select for this position. just recruitment selection and hiring of these specialized positions is very labor intensive, but in the end you hire the right person because it is so important. technology, one of the main reasons they focused on technology was case tracking. imagine for every piece of evidence that we touch, it goes through several processes, it goes through the hands of several different folks and it maybe outsourced and come back. all of that has to be tracked from start to finish. we did not have in the lab an automated tracking system at the time the grand jury was out. we were in the process of acquiring one. that position has been made. we are in the final customization phase

and will allow us to indicate results more efficiently. it's a game changer for the people in the lab. it's great for the lab system. it's going to turn a lot of their work around a lot faster. the report actually as the recommendation said that sfpd technology division should make this work, but it was the vendor edification to be done. another area was communication on the public side of it, they rightly pointed out that we did not have a presence on the website. the civil grand jury that came to the board of supervisors was he said nice stuff. we have a crime lab content

group at the lab and they are in the last stages of putting forth what will be our new crime lab page that covers all the areas of the crime lab. that should post next week on the department's website. it covers everything from the history and the mission and the different disciplines that we do and also the last part looking at some of the cases that we have done and the lab looking at good outcomes. we developed the chop, process, to communicating results on code us hits back to the bureau to relate back to the district attorney's office or to survivors in this case. so that was something we did work on with our internal technology to get that information out more quickly.

that's about it. any questions? >> just hang deputy chief. we are going to come back to you as he finishes the rest of the report. >> the last part of the chief's report will be the blessing scam from our special victims unit. >> good evening, captain bailey. >> good evening. vice-president turman and commissioners. i'm captain bailey with the special unit. i'm here to give you an update on the blessing scam. first off, because it's an open investigation i can't really comment on the actual specific cases, but i can tell you that they are a high priority within our unit. any blessing scam that has

come in has been immediately signed. we are lucky to have an cantonese investigator who has been involved with all of these investigations. we have been collaborating with the district attorney's office and specifically with the district attorney investigator jason column who is the guru of the blessing scams. he's been tracking it pretty much worldwide and within the u.s. he too the cantonese speaker and we've been using him and reaching out to the victims. what i want to say is that we have been working collaborating also with our captain's paul yip and david lazar from central and richmond station which were the two directs that were victims of these four blessing scams that we had

this year. they have done an extraordinary job of reaching out to the public between press conferences and using the chinese community to get the message out. one thing i want to say that back in 2012, the last time we had these blessing scams, we had 47 cases. i think in light of the fact that we only had four reported cases in 2016 and although anyone is one is too many, i want to say that that's an indicator that the outreach that the sfpd have been doing is obviously working. and that's pretty much -- we are making head way with the cases, but because it's an open investigation i can't really comment on the exact head way.

>> thank you, captain bailey. if you can please take your seat. >> that concludes the chief's report. >> colleagues, questions on the chief 's report? commissioner melara? >> yes, i had a question from captain conley about the recruitment efforts. it was my understanding there are certain populations that are harder to recruit from. i remember with chief suhr mentioning the fact that we had a hard time recruiting asian women, for instance. so, considering that you are doing some boot camps, mock interviews and testing process preparation which is a great thing to do, i'm wondering if there is a plan to collaborate with community agencies who might be interested in doing some

recruitment with us in those communities. >> first of all, yes there is quite a bit of collaboration occurring on a daily basis. we have a number of our sworn personnel who are bilingual. some are evening trilingual and they go to these events and reach out in the process. there is an educational component to it. there is what the candidate need to have in order to be a qualified candidate. there is a great bit of outreach and education involved . >> okay, thank you. >> commissioner hwang? >> i just want to follow up on that issue. i want to commend you for the wide diversity of projects that your bureau is undertaking. i realize this is an overview and you are waiting for a lot of other reports to come in before we sort of finalize. i guess

what i'm looking for is some radical reform and just on the recruitment issue, it seems like what we have seen from the blue ribbon report we've lost ground over diversity over the last year that we are less diverse than 2013, it seems like the target from the recruitment fairs, the bulk was still done in veteran centers which would not draw women and people of color. are we doing something different of losing diversity in the department. >> commissioner, i think the entire process is evolving and looked at past practices. >> deputy chief?

>> regarding the recruitment, we've been focusing on african american recruitment. so my recruiter just came back from the historical black colleges like spillman and clark colleges and they just came back and they had a very big response. we had like 50 applicants. i'm going back to georgia because i found out that in the bay area there is a lot of african american students that go back to georgia to go to college. >> there is a lot of historical black colleges in the atlanta area. >> yes, we are going back again to several colleges and they want us to bring back their students. i'm very excited about that. regarding the asian recruitment, we were just at the moon festival last week and there were about

70,000 people in attendance over the weekend. we did get about 40 applicants. really hard to get asian females, i think it's because of the culture but we are trying some new things like computer impressions, it will automatically come no matter what website you hit. >> i think as far as some of the recruitment efforts we did as far as the legal profession, we look at the whole pipeline. i'm wondering if we are tracking who is expressing initial interest, how far they make it in terms of the application process. have we looked to see whether or not perhaps candidates of color are interested in applying but not making it through a recruitment process. >> we just started tracking that in january. we are calling our

recruits back to fine out what's going on. i don't have the numbers with me right now, but i can definitely do a follow-up and let you know. >> maybe i can answer part of that too. just anecdotally, some of the classes we have seen now and in past commission meetings, people who have attended those classes there has been more diversity than we have seen in the police department. we have 24 in the academy now. if you look at those classes now, the diversity is tremendous. we myself and the mayor, he commented on the number of different ethnic groups present in the academy classes. this is all from our website as of february 11th. right now, we are at 22.3% asian, 9% african american, 15.7%

hispanic, 15.7% white. we are still above the demographics of san francisco, but obviously we are still out recruiting. it's a tough environment. as you have seen in news, san jose police department and it's just a competitive environment out there and we are looking at people through the pipeline. as far as the background process goes, we hired an a coach a while back from university of san francisco. he's bringing applicants and as deputy chief tom said, we are hitting the colleges and we also have a full page ad in the college monthly magazine, unfortunately so does the new york state police a few pages back from ours. we are recruiting in just about every diverse community out

there. we are trying to find out why they are dropping out of the process. i can say anecdotally, some of the folks that talked to us of color, it's the climate nationally and family is pushing them away from the table from coming to policing. >> a complaint that i heard a lot about and actually i got an e-mail about this week was the background process, right. how their applications get lost there and they never get a response as to whether or not they have been accepted or rejected. they go into this background process and they never get a response. i thought if you thought about changing that process. >> i looked into that process. there was a woman in the position and i can't go into that personnel matter, the reason why they got lost

and the reasons they didn't want their families to know. they were disqualified for very good reasons. they didn't make it through the process. part of the process, we seated an academy class that was half way, it was roughly 25 people, we agreed to see half a class because we didn't want to fill it with just anybody. looking through the backgrounds they had issues that quite frankly we weren't comfortable putting those people forward because they didn't fit the standards that we have in place now to ensure that we are not hiring substandard candidates. >> they don't get notified? >> they do get notified. the problem is they receive the notification and it's up to the candidate to disclose the qualification to family and

friends. unfortunately they often don't. you know as coach, we can't tell him, some of the folks that he's pushed and he was unaware of and we could not make him aware of them because they are confidential matters. that's in the high 90 th percentile for personal reasons. >> i don't want to know the reason, but is there a way to track them through the process. we can use an anonymous tracking number. we don't have to hear the names. i hear anecdotally that people are getting lost in the process. we should track them through application to completion. >> we are starting that right now. we'll look at it. >> the other two things that jumped out at me in terms of your

report, one again was from the blue ribbon report an indication that two other reports done that the stop data that we are collecting 35% on stops which undermines our ability for how we do reforms if we have only limited stop data. >> there are certain stops not recorded at the time. i'm trying to think of what they are maybe on view 647 like drinking in public. i don't think those are, those are citations but not recorded in the stops. i think, i sure there are some that are not recorded, but i don't think the number is high as it should be. >> i realize this is a big overview. i don't want to spend a lot of time talking about this. the third issue popped up on me.

maybe we can have another communication on this. from the blue ribbon report it indicated that the community don't feel like they are benefitting from community policing. i also spoke to some of the veterans from the old policing unit that feel like it's watered down now and there used to be a different way we did policing. maybe we can spend a little bit more time on the details of it. >> all right. i have a lot of questions. not for deputy chief tom, but for conley. i appreciate your doing this and for the people at home, one of the things we are doing this for is there has been, we are trying to

get a better understanding within the department of implicit bias and we certainly have allegations of racial profiling whether they are true or not. what we do is we have data and the data is going to do chronicles and report it here and there. we have data for the last 5 years and the reason we ask for this report is some of that data that we've seen in the paper we've questioned you about. i think april was the time that we had some of these questions. so what i'm going to start asking you about is the data we already have is the last 5 years from 2010-2015, we should take that and organize in some fashion to see where these problem areas are and analyze them and strategize whether some of these tactics they are using and effective because some of the dakota particulars were destructive in the community. one of the things we talked about

the overwhelming number of consent searches. i think if the data was right, it showed that african americans were more likely to be searched with consent than white drivers and latinos searched four times the rate of white drivers. black drivers were searched more than four times than white drivers after being pulled over. i think you know a lot of these statistics already. it looks like the department is far more likely to search african american and latino drivers but no more likely to find contraband. one of the questions i think what we should look for in the future and the department should do is take the information you have already and kind of reorganize it so that you have it and it's presented in a revised data that shows

the same information broken down by traffic division versus non-traffic division personnel. i forgot how many stops there are but many stops. the division comes down to the traffic versus non-traffic. it would be interesting to see how many of these consent searches from the non-traffic division. if the current data base allow you should breakdown the non-traffic issue data further not only where the geographic stops but also by the officers assignment by station and specialized unit. and if it's coming from the station to better pinpoint the possible sources of the problem. it's coming from the non-traffic division and the specialized units is something you need to reevaluate and maybe do some more training there or

evaluate whether that's even necessary. yeah, so, here is the number i was showing, the data shows the consent searches. i think the chronicle reported that 87% of the time across all groups, these searches did not lead contraband on evidence of criminality. but it still shows that african americans were searched more. so, then one of these you can do is talk about these searches. they are not providing you with any criminality. are they really destroying the trust in the community and are you aggravating that situation. the department talked about the consent searches and specific crime fighting strategies and tracking evaluating for

efficiency that damage community trust and legitimacy. to this degree we have reached that conclusion based on this tracking and review of these consent searches. the real question is can you tell us in your report can you tell us whether these searches are continuing. one of the things i just talked about. and if you report on that, we can have a discussion. but if you have not reached that conclusion, actually, or evaluated that tactic, then you might want to talk about banning those traffic stops from the specialized units or the station houses. if you have the data organized in a different way you can decide whether you want to do that or not. >> i'm sorry, i can't figure out what you are trying to ask. >> i'm talking about organizing the data in a different way so we can maybe discern out of these 8,000 stops, most of them are

african american or latino stops if they are done by undercover units or traffic detail which is their job, traffic detailing or if it's done by station cops or training personnel. we can look at that and see whether or not if it's top heavy in certain area whether we are going to abandon that. and whether or not it's their job. this is vital. it's important and look at it in a different way. >> maybe the chief can clarify. >> it was already done and part of this report. we were asked to pair it down because of the length of the report. everything you just asked for is in the report. we would have been here until midnight because of how many slides. it's done. everything you asked for. >> all right. but that would have been good