please turn off your cell phones not to interrupt our meeting and put them on silence or mute second if you're a member of the public and want to speak during public comment hand our speakers and we'll call. >> and thank you to sfgovtv for airing this meeting and all of our lonesome meetings live to the public i'll start with the roll call. >> okay commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph president tan kwourm this evening commissioner caminong and commissioner thomas indicated they will be absent tonight and

certainly expect commissioner perez based on his communication. >> i it would be nice to see you it has been a little while september meeting was cancelled first item of agenda public comment that you don't currently see on the agenda any public comment. if it is on the agenda we'll get to that later okay not seeing any, move on to item 2 approval of the minutes from august 16th commissioners i think that is not in the binder but handed to us separately move to approve. >> all right. a motion is there a second. >> second. >> great is there any public comment on the minutes not seeing any, let's take a vote. >> uh-huh do you have a - something you want to change.

>> making sure i can vote even though i wasn't here. >> from the record here on out if you are that not through we'll not delay you can approve it which will help with the backlog of minutes can he take a vote. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph president tan. >> that motion carries we'll move on to item 3 report from executive director's report and the rest of the staff and commissioner perez is entering the room fanatic is my notes (laughter) thank you and good evening. >> hear take one and pass it down there we go everybody good i'm going to be quick if possible

this evening i wanted to remind the commission and bounce and date out there we've been working with the city attorney and potential sponsors on a piece of legislation like fairly large in scope to make sense of the amplified sounds like seconds is under the ms. hayward we have amplified sound outside we've come to you over the years with a sort of difficult tour in the loudspeaker permitted and use to tool for different sidewalks didn't work well, for us so we are rosemary's those amplified sounds like sections and not to do introduce to the board have a hearing here with as much the people that could potentially be

impacted as possible to bang out any and all initials again create a permit 3 if exist with the sixth amplified sounds like that is permeating attempt related and talk about you know fixed place venues that might have indoor and outdoor spaces and tackle the street perform issues meaning specifically on i don't know a year ago now you promised we'll bring back all of this raked up in one long piece of legislation i'll do my best to summarize when the time comes i'm hopefully that november 1st is target that i would like to devote and will be a few hours or an hour nature just to

understand where we're headed this again have to decide it now but i want to put that out there pubically to keep it clear of many permits as well that's been coming spending a lot of time and a legacy piece of legislation to be honest a big piece. >> any special outreach to just people that will normally apply for those kinds of permits or just a regular meeting of announcement? >> no. we're going to go outside of that obviously our list relative to the street perform piece in particular and those areas of the city struggling in powell street out-of-towner and the street performs that came that night to talk to you obviously the police are going to have that weigh in

in a big way we're going to move around the police code and they need to use the article 1 and then much of it is really your world and maybe not anyone else it is about 15 one and what is in you know the section that is all about entertainment. >> i don't want to go as deep into that i know your trying to brief me but does it address the multi day permitted issues. >> absolutely and great. >> we're trying to make consistency so i'll work on charting it out so everyone is clear on that issue and sort of multiply days conservative versus non-conservative.

>> are we're going to regulate overseeing street performs that do amplified music. >> that's correct. >> not the one, if i got up and sank without any amplification people will run. >> that's so bad but. >> your first amendment protected right to do so therefore i can't say anything about it. >> okay. >> would the bucket man. >> we'll have this conversation later. >> but this is yes again, our regulatory oversight is the age if i had sound and - okay. so that's coming again november 15th like my target at the moment i handed out what ben copied for me a resolution introduced by supervisor wiener.

>> did you get a copy. >> thankful i have it is a mouth full but basically a hearing last monday - regarding the loss of lgbtq night life in not just soma but soma is a big part of this and also a discussion of heritage district that was created years ago but the plan for it was created the planning department never sort of played it out and implemented the things in the plan so supervisor wiener i think if he didn't introduce it to the full board but at committee level at the full board today and this is the text of it urging the starjt after a lgbtq night life and cultural working group and this

is important for you he made clear in this resolution this working group the board urges the mayor's office of economic workforce development and the entertainment commission to con seen and work with the cultural working group to promote and expands the programs in support of lgbtq night life and currently heritage we were tasked loan along with the mayor's office of economic workforce development to create this working group and bring a strategy to the board within 6 months which is a short time frame but didn't mean we are implementing the strategy only implementing the point of strategy so anyhow this is important i wanted to let you know about it commissioner

joseph attended we sort of live facebook part of it standing there in the corner and i do think that is for the western soma planning piece is you know stalled, if you will, this is important to the night life 2, 3, 4 general spoke on behalf of the the whole and i think that the outcome of this is really interesting something that i could use people's help in offering people that might be on the working group not only are we talking about night life operators but saying more than that like culture of lgbtq community in san francisco a little bit broader than the one trick pony i don't know who

those people are working in the daytime. >> so one thing we've heard from planning at the meeting was that a heritage district is not necessarily confined to one geography california area the heritage district can be citywide or heritage what he said that he said that that the heritage thing can be citywide. >> yes. this is the language and here it is talking about a citywide lgbtq can remember heritage strategy that is the focus obviously and we did talk with planning after the hearing about that and notion more lgbtq sort of history to be preserved outside of western soma so it has to include those areas. >> so if oewd would want me

i'd like to be on that group. >> fantastic i got one. >> did say home people. >> no basically, the spofz is leaving it up to us and look towards heritage district the filipino and it is complete i think finally. >> next month so things we can look at as models. >> there or other districts. >> and a lot of work been done we have a nice base and i think i w i was panicked but get most of away way there in terms of the strategies and doing the stuff is the harder piece after you

say how to do it just do it. >> right. >> there's that i wanted to turn it over to dillon you've met and not heard itch from to update you on a couple of things i - you got our feet on the ground. >> thank you jocelyn kane it is a pleasure to be here for my first report out to the entertainment commission so there is a couple of areas i want to speak to first of all, sort of analysis of the 10 b police officer process the city and then whether those an upcoming working group and data collective so first of all, regarding the 10 b police officer in the spring as you may know the board passed legislation to have the data

collection for when events are required to hire off duty police officers most of them are liquor this is a response to what we've been hearing about the rules and the process for hiring is officers as well is the cap on the fees have been unclear or inconsistent and also with the cost and timeliness when the final amount is due from the police department not known until after the event and did the for the mraernlz in terms of budgeting my role i'm working with the police department to first of all, come up with inventory list effected by the 10 b a standard definition free events serving alcohol and meeting and security plan and did amplified sound and making

sure that the event producers are aware the process and then entertainment commission per ordinance is required to receive each post report called an after action report of the police department one 60 days of events so sideline tasked with making sure we collect those reports and data those reports should you know a number of officers hired locations, number of arrests or citations and the difference between the estimate that was given the producer and the actual expenses and that will be presented that data will be presented to you as well as to the board by the end of this calendar year and the idea we want this to help improve you you know interagency and use a evidence based approach for policy making down

the road and is this piece can i ask a quick question. >> who is producing that report is it like by each i don't know. >> so maybe i was not clear the entertainment commission is tasked with creating a report by the board that will probably be me. >> you're getting information from the police department who at the police department is giving that to you. >> we're working with the sergeant but all of the after action report radio written by the different districts. >> great. >> so i'm assume he'll be the one to assembly them for me. >> he collects them from them and bunches it and send to you. >> if it changes i'll let you know. >> moving on to the next thing october 3rd a part of my job to do a feeds assessment of the policies and progresses that

effect outdoor effects and find long term solution for the quality we're holding a working session and happy how are you see a flier in your packet october 3rd at the main library with a networking happy hour at the sugar lounge and 27 folks and calling and e-mails to get more people to come casting a wide net the point to listen it the needs and priorities and help come up with solutions collectively and this data should be captured to help to support the evaluation and the policy change moving forward and then i'm using this as a way to introduce myself to any

constituency to the event producers and that the city has this new effort to support the community after events and then the survey audrey mentioned is as sort of a complimenty way to as far as this data collection effort to find out you you mention what are the missions of the event and the organizations too size and capacity are those organizations and what are the factors that really effect the success of detriment of the events and some of the questions are specific and some broad to get a sense last week taking temperature of the event community and in general the feedback we'll get you know that that would be great but to commissioner wolfram the events and policy making and sorry and

resources. >> i have a question. >> the survey with this my curiosity anyway. >> sure did they take public transportation do they take bart a nice might be. >> 20 people attending. >> well, they normally do they come from i'll be interested. >> that is something to bring up with the event producers how they're learning and how the attendees are getting to the events sampling that is cool to see how that dovetails both the nuts and bolts transportation conversations. >> i didn't really look at the survey can you tell me if you're asking questions of people from

out of area. >> we have been inviting people who produce one or more events in the city and city and county of san francisco. >> san francisco pride has anymore between seven hundred thousand and one million people attend the majority are not from san francisco. >> but this is the producers. >> that is. >> oh, the producers the first questions are you an event producer that producing one or more events in san francisco. >> why would you ask them about distribution. >> sometimes you who to - >> oh, the attendees. >> if they know that information. >> it is interesting. >> i know that some is surveys aware taken years ago and that information didn't exist how they drive to a bar.

>> just to make you all - i don't know why i need to say that dillon as an internal analyst to consider from the preserve of a producer how to make the city interaction with a producer better not necessarily to worried about the patronize for the impact studies a lot more about people that come but his job needs to focus as far as i'm concerned, what are the processes that the city has control over we can improve so that the events stay here that new events what come up and the ones that have been here a long time don't get priced out we the close read if anyone excuses why

someone is doing this on the entertainment commission owe are wanted to remind you guys there used 0 to be a chapter 98 of the charter or the administrative code. >> 90 a. >> 90 a 2009. >> was the musk and cultural sustainability policy that is primary where the focus you know and where we were able to suggest not only the outdoor events were worthy of a full-time employee trying to make sure that someone speaks for them and we improve things but also it is part of mission of the entertainment commission it is important that you know that two. >> everyone please remember that if you don't i have a question about the survey is there a reason you didn't ask for their identity it is seems to me as an optional

field that would be helpful because then you'll know who said what. >> yeah. i'm trying to get as much candid response some people may not want to identify themselves we have an optional question mates the mission of the event so i'm clear and also when is the events happening. >> great. >> so some of that but the point to get a very honest response and i don't want that to be an issue and then anyone that comes to the working session will obviously be there so we'll know who those people are, too, and some of the people that couldn't make it to the working session on august the next thing i know have an opportunity to be heard. >> thank you sure. >> so for maybe further serves that would be helpful for people

to self-identify not required redondo valley who they are but most people will be candid what we have they think it good or bad events are produced here so i think outside the box as great survey and great feedback i'm glad you're here those are things we dreamed of doing that can't be possible with none around to do it so thanks sxauft and commissioner lee. >> i agree with commissioner, i think that has great idea but on the other side of the coin i understand why people don't want to give a give their name i wouldn't want to criticize someone coming back next year. >> my event is in civic center plaza so rec and park would it

be an advantage to say an organizer of that to come to this. >> yes. >> okay. cool. >> which i'm assuming anyone from rec and park attending this event. >> yeah. so we've invited them their sending a rep and will let us know for certain who is coming. >> so how else are you perform from the list of festival people can we send out those working groups a list or e-mail there are he festivals that may not get this. >> thanks one thing i want to make sure we're covering as many territories as we are with an address and audience and in general they know i'm here we've been looking the emancipation proclamation scott plaques. >> a lot of the people that

sign the applications are top dogs and may want to know so spread it out. >> thank you. >> since we have you over the fire too few (laughter) i think your website needs updating about a section here's what is happening in san francisco on the random months of year if you could set up that that would be great. >> no, we talked about this and certainly work on and i've been here long enough to file the page regarding what ease doing. >> fair enough. >> no way to be on our city government website. >> will you make a presentation at the summit.

>> yeah. i'll recap some of the positive packets that led to the creation of any role and this now direction the impact study that was worked on and just more of a scope of what the work i'm doing and what the commission is behind. >> and then one other question when you spoke to sergeant did you ask him about the fees they charge for 10 b you know - >> i wanted to ask that question. >> just to clarify the fees are charged per officer, did you ask for those fees at all. >> we - well, we didn't we don't have any control over that. >> i was curious if people were complaining about the fees. >> no, we didn't ask for the

newest lastly and greatest but know that the influencing but like i said they're reporting what estimate is and the fees they charge. >> has nothing to do with with the rate. >> respect. >> it a little bit closer than nothing. >> okay. >> the reporting part was most important. >> all right. so then if you're done dillon i'm going to turn it over to physicals other questions i'm going to turn it over to the inspectors. >> who wants to go. first >> john burk well done senior administrator analyst and good evening, commissioners. >> good evening. >> we have a few complaints the black cat received inform

complainants a jazzy club on the calendar in front of you next hearing the village on market has been either fairly quiet or in active for quite a few of the and two complaints two back to back two different complainants at the end of black cat two incidents and stopped by the village they're actually for certain events opening on the alley behind market as a sort of speak easy type of entryway and talked about insuring that their smoking area and entry and exit points can be closed and to make sure that has little sound is escaping as possible that area with the middle tests and

mezzanine and market there is more activity than in the past i'm definitely in that neck of the words than hefk been. >> i don't realize that was apartment buildings. >> next door i forgot the name of the place. >> kind of a hotel. >> a fairly in any apartment building. >> and a complaint from fulsome street haven't heard anything from them in a while i'll be swinging by this weekend to figure out what is going on and sound testing during and after monroe's weekly sunday party in the morning. >> they've got a apartment above there we're trying to

establish the ambiance inside and outside in my two year and a half years i've been unable to do going out on a sunday morning is difficult and another sounds like test for a bar on california street 28 hundred they've pass their test and up and running. >> did a walk through at the outlined mint they activated for the first place two weekends ago i believe an interior events with speakers set up outside and inside before 10 there was slightly audible in the alley and allison park keep an eye on when in their applying for a employment

an stuart and new bar called moreoverism and had complaints across the street i don't hear entertainment and see people drinking and calling themselves a club that requires membership so as far as at this point nor they're not doing entertainment in the way of djs and bands. >> that's the legion. >> not origin thank you, sir. >> and then i'll let you know i went by the vinyl to discuss they're industry and exit points on the alley that wraps up for me any questions. >> i have a question for staff if some place has a private club if the modernistic is not - >> they're doing entertainment

a permit required even if if so a private membership club. >> yes. >> they have one under region but a dj in there when you went inside. >> i didn't hear any music and not set up for a dj but were we have a complaint from a neighbor that used to complain about region they didn't have a lot of specifics but i heard if someone that - and people noise. >> they the mention that so - we'll keep an eye on that. >> do you know in the village is using in their space a lot more happening or more sound is escaping and have a hole didn't release. >> from the impressions this was a precompression and did he compression burning man style

not time keep an eye on on the we are not and we're keeping track of events but as far as i know they've been quiet for quite a few of the and been quiet since the complaints came in. >> thank you commissioners any other questions i think he week pass to say to inspector pauley. >> stopped by the w hotel a party there regular promoters in san francisco thought that would be interesting to stop but it was uneventful i did a walk through and left on mission street performed a walk through well-managed security looks good and in compliance and for the empire room he stopped and did a

ride along with victor the permit officer for the northern station and stopped and harding park and rye was the same thing they looked good and security stand point was fine one issue we dealt with not one of our folks but an issue and events as we were talking about and thought that would be good to give my sxur on the sound issue there there was a neighbor complaining about noise from they have a separate i don't know if you've been there a separate like area and those roll up doors 3 used to be like a automobile shop so, anyway this front that is open and noise gets out not loud at all and nevertheless, they talked about wanting to get -

so some point. >> can you tell me what venue. >> la user have an on. >> divisadero. >> maybe in front of you public works as you remember a month ago i record that they had gotten received a couple of complaints they set up. >> sound test and figure out the sound issue and been a few issue here and there but saw is an e-mail thread i see it and they saw the issues they're working together to make sure it looks good. >> may has a complaint about

foot traffic in the alley like, adjacent to the building and it didn't look terribly infrastructure grants to me i talked with what's my man's name the owner matt. >> matt tell him to tighten up and there is sound issues as what's the foot traffic and people standing along the alley and smoeng and making noise you know that situation is absent unfair there are people going all - >> right so nevertheless, we got a complaint i talked to him about it and he tightened it up. >> how it r if those also not patrons along polk street a bunch of bars those bars are security in front.

>> right sew a mays going to - >> that's my attitude i told matt if you have security move them along that's fine. >> they don't have smoking areas. >> their tight on the street not role but the conversation with matt that is just trying to do something and make sure that people are not congregating there. >> and from there things should be fine that didn't look like a big issue i'm there on the weekends but nevertheless, complaint. >> a couple of new complaints same concentrate i don't see a problem we've done plenty of inspections i don't see an issue but nevertheless, received noise complainants and dispatch saturday night college football

started up maybe that had an impact on the preserved basis noise by nevertheless, it looked fine and been fine and your special circumstances revealed they're well within compliance and nevertheless, came through and we received unanimous complaint about 853 valencia street with the entertainment noise i stopped by this saturday night and there was a performance going on i wouldn't have known when i walked up so i talked with the house manager and said we got a noise complaint and make sure that you keep things tight and maybe not see me again for a while there were in compliance i think that is result and if anything new comes up i'll tell y

i'll tell you about it. >> that's fine. >> that's all the staff report any public comment open everything you've just heard no public comment we'll move on to item number 4 police department questions or comments i don't see any police department reps so move on to item number 5 which is residential development review consent calendar there are 4 - 4 projects on here this is sort of standard protocol so i'm happy to entertain a motion until you want to pull those outer for some reason. >> i move to approve. >> all right. a motion is there a second. >> i'll second. >> authorizes dollars a second any public comment on the consent calendar no public comment let's take a vote. >> commissioner perez commissioner joseph commissioner lee

commissioner frost and president tan. >> that item passes we've move on to item 6 why most of you are here tonight our permits so the first one is 800 block and i'm going to turn it over to thank you our first permitted application is for on llp for larkin 800 larkin street and in the tenderloin a bar and they would like to host happy hour until 10:00 a.m. and plan to promote the neighborhood done a lot of outreach you'll see in here folder and received over one signatures in support of the patrons and folks working with the larkin homeless services i'll let her talk about that and note received me letters of protest tenderloin station approved the permit application

with the good neighbor policy and adhering to the security measures as condition so here to talk about her application is owner martini. >> good evening, commissioners martini graph give you a little bit of background on microfilm and the relationship i started working as a bartender in the 2 and purchased 8 hundred larkin from the owner in 99 and had the owner there and opened all the 743 larkin in 200 and have a lot of backward this is a neighborhood that gets overlooked and a lot of the folks starting with the loophole will that i can say i'll encourage other business owners in tenderloin to do the same and

get traffic from polk street and take the condemn under there and slow down into the tenderloin a little bit so my outreach program is with larkin youth center been if the tenderloin a long time i'm familiar and they're doing an amazing job and partner with them and hopefully do an event and invite the youth to perform we don't have anybody maybe invite dj friends and make a 10 percent kickback for whatever we make on the event so as far as the security we hadn't hit your capacity for a long term so i don't know preserve that happening soon we have a

345i7b entrance with security personnel in the inside of bar so that's kind of my security and early evening 10 o'clock finishing up. >> you're talking about djs. >> if someone wants to do stand up comedian i'm open for the bars to use for the regular dj or jude box not over and over enthused i come to the board. a one month permitted and no irks with the police department or neighbors a good neighbor policy as far as any event and that's great why not a full place of entertainment and we have people obgyn upstairs number one i want to respect

their noise level and so how we progress at the 10 o'clock and moving to 11 and seeing how everything maybe seeing you guys in the future but now happy to be the, llc and moves forward with that >> great well, i grew up a block away from there and to know it is actually transformed larkin street over the years. >> it has i've been there 24 years and still the same struggles on the streets finding the homeless and a lot of people are stuck in hotels in the city and they're given those rooms and a lot of times out on the street at night and interrupting the business flow and robbing banks or whatever and the bars can't have security 24/7 you can't afford it. >> right. >> i've poling with the people

with the toifrnd housing association like there was a lot of people on the street love to have a room because those are not staying in the rooms and maybe a discussion will a curfew and investigating access to those rooms you you can - there are people that generally want to have a room. >> i wish we could do more about housing but that's not our lane but we can help activate the businesses and we're fully supportive of that so let's see if there is questions or comments from other commissioners and then take public comment. >> commissioner lee. >> you were the i remember you when arrived. >> you do. >> that was in the 2 and

that's right you've been there ever sense. >> 24 years. >> i know the neighborhood very well. >> very well. >> i think you did try to do a gallery on larkin. >> no, not a gallery but right to left the artwork and not involved in an actual gallery on larkin street. >> glad the place is still under. >> yeah. we're still there. >> commissioner perez. >> just a quick comment refreshing and commendsable you got this many signatures and glad you're doing our community outreach and that's a good indication of an operator moving forward thank you very much for the work you do. >> great. >> other comments didn't seem like - >> oh. >> commissioner perez comments awesome. >> thank you. >> i take it seriously and

obviously been in the tenderloin so long i have a feeling for the neighborhood and like to some, some development and folks a lot of people are intimidate by the tenderloin i totally get most people on the street are harmless but not used to being in the tenderloin is very scary so - >> all right. i don't think there more comments so open up for public comment why not take a seat thank you very much any public comment on 8 hundred larkin and they're limited live permitted. >> all right. none public comment is closed. commissioners what do you guys think. >> well, i think i want to recommend approval obviously. >> i'd like to second that. >> there is a motion and a second and the police conditions

speak to the gun control as part of conditions so let's take a vote. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner perez and president tan that item passes congratulations we'll move on to institute of possibility. >> oh, so i have this (laughter) this is a loudspeaker permitted we see not those in front of the commission but submitted to amplified sounds like and to 1159 i know that john is serious about 3 and explain to you what this interesting event next to 111 will be. >> okay

i wrote is book and run a nonprofit called the institute of possibilities for theatre enbatter we do shows in venues that artists meant for shows like junkyards and oats and stuff like that we have opinion about how the world works we only do the comboeblz and make that look easy in comparison for people standing 140ur8d to shoulder with with us we wrote is a book about the possibility and little arts and the strange city we live in and the book is released on october 1st and i've got a street closure and we're doing it at the 111 mini in a gallery and alleys short i think

and we did a large fwent and sold ticket it is incredibly complicated and was great and worked out well the event that we did was called the cosmos and that events has three hundred and 50 arcs we made the painting and did it at pier 70 and had one thousand people that the people bought ticket come to the events and walked through the painting and opm it killed me i wrote the book it was really,

really done a lot of effort and you know a lot of that kind of stuff we'll redo that events and reimagine 2 as sort of a parade or as a fashion show because we have the streets so like thirty minutes of you know the painting we have the costumes their those eloquent things made of one thousand cocaine's like bighead dresses and thing on wheels the music is do you know dingdong. >> music from volley. >> right and other stuff the people in the parade we have trains with aromatics and they walk. >> a theoretical thing. >> catastrophe right but no,

like you know popular music. >> sure. >> what will go through the sound system like a sound track from a movie like rain and horns and weird sounds and stuff and a microphone so the whole thing can, hosted so people can hear and the parade starts at the 10 o'clock. >> is there a stage. >> no, like a parade you know people standing offering either side of the street with cones and soft barriers so. >> is the amplification moving. >> no for powder speakers on the street. >> okay and zero to 25 percent. >> their passenger seat into the alley. >> no, but not having to be loud nor like bootie rap dance

parties that's not where we're doing. >> 3 to midnight is there. >> 10:00 p.m. >> so the performance startles as 10 the first element. >> sorry get get to wrong. >> am i taking too long. >> at 10:30 i have a marking bands for 10 minutes from 10:30 to 11. >> is if amplified no a marching bands. >> from 11 to 12 we were going to put the soundtrack back on and the guys will kind of hang out in the street and dingdong and let other for the purpose play their stuff so people if the kiss tomz /* /- costumes

and other gallery in the gallery, etc. has the permits if you want to come down and check it out. >> sounds like interesting. >> you sign in and get a book. >> why are you doing it from 10 to midnight rather than 8 to 10. >> i want people to be there i don't think anyone will be there at 8 o'clock at night. >> okay commissioner joseph. >> when i talk about some of the characters in the parade i think i've seen a parade like that before so what go - when our amplifying the performance or your amplifying the parade. >> the parade is like agree karaoke track where it would be like music and you'll sing on top of it so i have sounds like track there are time things like a power horn 24 performance was

to do this and i see. >> but the performances are not amplified. >> outrage costumes. >> on october 1st would you like a flier. >> yes. i think i have to go. >> we have to permitted this first. >> yeah. >> okay. so - okay john. >> john how about a pier from there. >> (laughter). it sounds like there may not be more questions from the commission so i'm going to open up for public comment at this point any public comment on >> can i say one thing. >> no thank you, thank you. >> (laughter). go ahead and have a seat.

any public comment? >> don't leave on this sit. >> on that particular application to no public comment commissioners. >> so i just want to say this man is almost a san francisco legion he ran for anywhere how many votes did you get. >> pretty remarkable for a person someone that ran for mayor chicken john xraef and i've - i think you've bought something from my club club townsend so, yeah that's right he bought the bar top i knew you bought the bar top that was in 19 in 2002 - >> a long time ago he's credibly creative and am in

support like to move to approve great, thank you i'll second. >> there is a motion and a second some people say that arts and creativity is dying in san francisco i think you just proved it is not all right. to let's take a vote commissioner - and commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner perez president tan. >> that item passes we'll see you there maybe thank you. let's moving on to the next preempt ocean ailing house the next permitted for an llp they're all llps for the rest of the night the ocean houses on ocean avenue ocean house is a neighborhood bar and restaurants want to host live music with local bands open mike and jazz and latino and

singer songwriters and plan to have live music's two nights until 10:00 p.m. but open up for more nights the owners have received many letters and a letter of support from ocean avenue association several station recommended approval with no conditions more is owner miles. >> thank you for your time to give a quick history i grew up off of the majestic and it is located of mroukt one and 50 feet from the library and 5 hundred feet from the whole foods heavy in developing the area so born if 88 a 28-year-old kid that respect to public school and grew up in music father is a

cuban and at the time 1314 was a cafe grocery and a beautiful argentine man ran it and supported art for children i was temple years old i was playing music and showcasing myself until i went to japanese schools and schools of the arts and supported the art eased supported the children as well as nice coffee died and his chef continued in the glories support for the arts and continued to have children and adults showcase his music and some form of jazz and collaborative and as well as audible of rock and roll

back in february i bought cafe from claude and it is my first business i wish to continue this i'm in full support of art and full support of ideas being in high school and president to be a musician is the most terrifying way you can't play anywhere there are premises issues you're in a metal bands and be allowed to express yourself they offered that i want to continue that and where it is the ocean house it is a phenomenal place i think that is open we have full support and tons of families we're super family-friendly and have saturday is dad day and second saturday 4 o'clock and babies run around a lot of fun and want

to have live music until 10 o'clock and tuesday hope to have an open mike and show their talent and thursday, friday and saturday depending on an event and x i'd like to have live music either of those nights between 7 and 10:00 p.m. sometimes earlier depend on the event the association has support them in second sundays and wish to utilize the primary and helped me communicate with maggie as well as jocelyn and yeah. >> that's great i love hearing stories of hometown people that ends up buying their local whatever it is and taking it over and investing in the city and not displaced that's a great story i'm glad you told that i don't have any questions. >> i go to the gym there this

is really good amp. >> we have outstanding ample. >> no, i go to the gym with a workout. >> my yoga. >> questions if not thank you for your story have a seat. and open up for public comment. >> hello my name is stephan i looked at that space he working on other projects in the neighborhood and said you know what this place this is a fresh energy and a new jive as that

street a meeting this is like an extended living room the prior owner was in did restaurant business and took over that for his brother but tired and he's psa the torch to young cats that have great energy and revive he everything eave read is positive i hope they do this year for a year and come back they have a cool spot and it is the right people for the right place so full support. >> thank you very much also kudos to the applicant for getting like a cooperative hundred signatures in two days so that's always impressive any other public comment. let's take it up as a commission

commissioners a motion someone. >> move to approve this permitted application. >> all right. is there a second. >> i'll second. >> there is a motion and a second take a votes. >> commissioner frost commissioner lee commissioner joseph commissioner perez and president tan. >> that item passes good luck eulogy you'll be seeing her in her sweats. >> our next is kim ton coffee shop. >> alu another llp at eddy center the assistant tenderloin the owner and manager both speak vietnam as their first language so tony of the southeast asian community center is here to interpret can to know a vietnam

coffee shop that wants to host karaoke for the patrons they came through a 311 complaint and since received four complaints from the same neighbor that is here lives above the premises and provided a letter for more details regarding the sounds like levels but also writes that he believes they've been going beyond 10:00 p.m. with the amplification and inspector bureaucracy has gone to the coffee shop and working with sound levels with the premises and the owners have received 4 signatures of support from other residents payroll living above them and the tenderloin station disapproves of this permitted not offering me recommended conditions and not provided any grounds for their disapproval

only as background so, please note that southeast alleging community helps to translate our good neighbor policy policy into vietnam we've provided that and she'll be telling you about the premises from help from tony. >> thank you. >> hello. >> (speaking foreign language.) first of all. >> speak closer to the microphone. >> first of all, we want to say hi to everyone. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and the second she want to say apologize for the happen here she want to apologize what happen.

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said she wishes about the last couple of days if took 4 years and when she heard she had to go to hearing this is a why she cried and they permitted and. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she wanted to say like the reason she opened the place she had a lot of consumers they after work after a long day want to sing a couple of sopgz and suggested to open this she letting them know the law and

during the last couple of times not knowing what is going on and timed to apply for the primary to open up the business and either way she'll accept it. >> what time are you having karaoke is that - what hours. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. >> 7 to 10 and it sounds like one neighbor that has complained what happens when they complain do you turn it off or argue about it. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said she never heard from the neighbor and never met.

>> she never heard about it until today. >> okay commissioner joseph. >> i have a lot of questions if you we'll do one at the time is she the owned and operated or there are no there all the time. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she just a daughter of owner the owner. >> does she work at the coffee shop. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> yeah, she not there often mostly for her working there. >> what is the primary business of the coffee shop does it sell coffee what else does it sell. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said wheat and coffee

that's it. >> does she charge for the karaoke or is it free. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> no, no charge. >> so i understand from our inspector that people came in her shop at night and brought beer and were not eating or drinking much of anything when they were there so how do they earn money from the having the karaoke?

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said they have a party from the birthday party and they bring their food there she only offers them between - yeah. >> how often does she have the party. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> 2 so 3 parties. >> a week. >> a month for the family? >> her own family or other families coming out. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said some of them the family and some the customer family. >> i think that commissioner joseph question was are if they come in as family do very rent the space or use the karaoke

machine. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said the customers want a party in her coffee shop she don't want to order the food she's not make the food like a restaurant but order the food for them and the money from the food. >> so she orders the food from another vendor doesn't she have to pay that vendor for that the food does she make a profit off the food.

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> i think she gets some money not much like she's have to go to chinatown to pick up the food like that. >> any other business going on there besides coffee and vietnam. >> swashes other vietnamese swashes any other business there. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said, "no that's all. >> do they rent the space or own the building. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she rent the space. >> okay. thank you. >> okay commissioners other

questions. >> so during operation is there anyone that speaks english during operations. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> yeah, her mom also the owner not speak english at all. >> here's the problem if you do get a permit and . >> law enforcement officer or inspector comes to talk how will they communicate to the inspector. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said her mom not speak english well but her husband speaks english some. >> is the husband there everyday. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> he there all the time yeah.

>> okay. >> one other question if if she gets a permit i don't know if we're allowed this but - will she allow alcohol on the premise. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said she applied the alcohol license a long time ago and they don't give her the primary. >> but the inspector saw alcohol there when he got the complaint. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said that happened when inspector come and said customer bring that with them but after

that, she know not the right thing to do and after that no longer alcohol. >> i think we have we'd like more information and i think that i'm not sure in she is the proper person to answer so and so questions at this time so i'd like the commission to continue this hopefully be your father that owns the business or husband or you know kind of more people that have the information i also think education involved obviously it seems like she's learning today a neighbor that contained and mr. wiener i can't serve alcohol or allow alcohol without a permit we want to help support that i don't want to rich into denying or approving

that today so let's - yeah, i'll take public comment and the commissioners can consider continuing this for a future meeting pass that information on to her opening up for public comment so, please coming up up and you'll have two minutes to say whatever you like. >> hi i'm a neighbor that complained about the noise i live in 2 other part time 23 that is two floors above i have a hearing loss of three percent and there's too damn loud for me it's too loud they have been dishonest to the building management and told the building management they have a permit they didn't and stop playing at 10 o'clock at night and often play to 12 or

1 o'clock they lied to the police and the police came and said they'll tune to down and the next night the same thing and rather than trying to get along with other people they try to get away and screw you i was working with the inspector sean burke to monitor the noisy called my apartment and played the base a certain level and tunneled it down, however, since then another base for a car going by it rumbles the building after we set the sounds like level if they do it weigh the for their permitted what will they do in the future the purpose or person that had any apartment twice before widen

two times before moved out of the apartment they moved to the thirds floor he still hears it. >> i'm not opposed to karaoke i'm opposed to loud base they play why they need a solid base for karaoke so if they're given a permit i'd like to to be on a conditional level. >> your time is up. >> thank you very much all right. commissioners can i ask the applicant to come up quickly i want to make sure you can't do karaoke until you are permitted to. so can you make sure she knows that she can't say do that at all and if i don't know if this is

true there is new equipment and that type of stuff they can't >> (speaking foreign language.) >> she said she stopped about a month ago when the inspector come she stooped totally of karaoke. >> let's continue that we'll speak about this in future merging have a seat. and commissioners and i'd like to move to continue this to - can you ask her when her father or husband can attend can they come in two weeks that's the next day. >> not two weeks. >> october 4th a. >> what october 4th. >> can they come october 4th.

>> definitely? >> okay yes. >> i move to continue this item until october 4th. >> great is there a second. >> second. >> let's take a vote. >> same house, same call? >> all right. and see you think october 4th. >> we'll see your father and her husband on the fourth. >> thabsz. >> move on to our last permitted of the night the tavern. >> final permitted for other llp that's an outlined tavern on mission street noriega cesar chavez outlined bus tavern a brewery and restaurants that wants live music on sundays with the expansion of the programming to other days of the week i've received 13 letters of so forth

from local musicians that hope to perform and outlined bus tafrm and a letter of support from the president of the mission bernal mission i don't receive any letters of protest and recommend approval with the good neighbor policy with conditions here to talk about that is owner james. >> james simpson one of the owners of the tavern we been open for 14 months now essentially a brewery bar and restaurants but function as a restaurant currently we're open it's tuesday through saturday from 5 to 11 clock and we're trying to expand into sunday and serve brunch on sunday with music assets following brunch so

pretty much we're asking for a from time to time to open up the space for you know small local musicians and i know on sundays from 3 to 6 in the afternoon. >> kwhiech entertainment are you looking at. >> primarily 3 small piece bans. >> acoustics. >> during brunch you'll be sitting down eating that is a small restaurants 25 seats in the dining room and 25 seats at the bar it is always people come and enjoy brunch and stick around and listen to music for 6 o'clock. >> is that the only time. >> to start from tuesday there saturday we had a descents dinner service and don't have

the space to accommodate music as well. but we would like to open up the space and use it in a different form formulate and well musicians and create a space in the neighborhoods for small local bands to play their music >> i've apron in his your venue where will you put the stage. >> in the window. >> okay. >> ask commissioner perez. >> so we have speakers in the space but i think the bands that came in will require them to either play acoustic or small armed forces not hooking up through our sound system. >> was your community outreach been i don't see -

>> so i reached to the local businesses in the neighborhood i wrote a letter to the western bernal association and k3 hear back or a complaint. >> have you stalked with residents like next door. >> a lot of us is our lsd that's the only resident we have right around us great. >> i'm pulling up google maps. >> serious. >> down the block from e line roy. >> didn't look like this is a lot of apartments or anything like that around okay. any other questions from commissioners no. >> have a seat. i don't know if there are public comment any public comment? no let's the matter is with the commission commissioners.

>> move to approve this application and a emotion to approve and second he lets vote. >> okay same house, same call? >> yes, ma'am. >> wow. >> that means the motion passes good luck we'll see you out there maybe. >> all right. item no. 7 is commissioner questions or comments. >> commissioners you guys have any questions or comments one thing i want to ask our director is we didn't have an anniversary party or are we having an anniversary party. >> are we having a post. >> - >> we discussed having a holiday party because yeah - and we use to have a lot more parties and gotten called managing a bigger staff with a

lot of policy work and got overwhelming i apologize not a birthday party normally in july i did time to and mention when spin was here. >> with the ping-pong. >> not accounting but i want to have a december ish holiday party that will generally come to to our attention. >> on tuesday the first tuesday in december. >> depends on the permits situation and certainly make an effort to make that happen. >> it is an finding a location as you may know and what willing to work with us and then spreading the word. >> right.

>> that's how it usually goes that's helpful to know and also any thought about retreating at some point for a day. >> just as a matter of course or particular issue. >> no as a matter of course. >> i don't know, we'll want to have another meeting given the difficulty having enough meetings as we have i'm open to if i thought there was some know major policy change and we should discuss this piece of legislation we're discuss in november moves forward because it is a substantial change in the thovts but to comp through the whole of it but retreat for the sake -

i'm happy to talk with you. >> we'll do that offline. >> thank you for taking on the daytime education portion i'm happy you're here to provide employees sight and good luck and landlords to working with you. >> all right. any any public comment? or talk no final agenda item is future business items any questions at this point not seeing any, all right. i'll go ahead and adjourn this meeting at the 7:04 p.m. have a good night

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1990's and discover the wild west atmosphere of open mi it's ic in the mission. >> although there were these open mics every night of the week, they were super macho. people writing poems about being jerks. beatty their chest onstage. >> she was energized by the scene and proved up with other girls who wanted their voices to be heard. touring the country and sharing gen-x 7 as a. her mainstream reputation grew with her novel. theses san francisco public library took notice and asked her if she would begin carrying a monthly reading series based on her community. >> a lot of the raiders that i

work with our like underground writers. they're just coming at publishing and at being a writer from this underground way. coming in to the library is awesome. very good for the library to show this writing community that they are welcome. at first, people were like, you want me to read at the library, really? things like that. >> as a documentary, there are interviews -- [inaudible] >> radar readings are focused on clear culture. strayed all others might write about gay authors. gay authors might write about universal experiences. the host creates a welcoming environment for everybody. there is no cultural barrier to

entry. >> the demographic of people who come will match the demographic of the reader. it is very simple. if we want more people of color, you book more people of color. you want more women, your book more women. kind of like that. it gets mixed up a little bit. in general, we kind of have a core group of people who come every month. their ages and very. we definitely have some folks who are straight. >> the loyal audience has allowed michelle to take more chances with the monthly lineup. established authors bring in an older audience. younker authors bring in their friends from the community who might be bringing in an older

author. >> raider has provided a stage for more than 400 writers. it ranges from fiction to academics stories to academic stories this service the underground of queer fell, history, or culture. >> and there are so many different literary circles in san francisco. i have been programming this reading series for nine years. and i still have a huge list on my computer of people i need to carry into this. >> the supportive audience has allowed michele to try new experiment this year, the radar book club. a deep explorationer of a single work. after the talk, she bounces on stage to jump-start the q&a. less charlie rose and more carson daly.

>> san francisco is consistently ranked as one of the most literate cities in the united states. multiple reading events are happening every night of the year, competing against a big names like city arts and lectures. radar was voted the winner of these san francisco contest. after two decades of working for free, michelle is able to make radar her full-time job. >> i am a right to myself, but i feel like my work in this world is eagerly to bring writers together and to produce literary events. if i was only doing my own work, i would not be happy. it is, like throwing a party or a dinner party. i can match that person with that person. it is really fun for me. it is nerve wracking during the actual readings. i hope everyone is good. i hope the audience likes them.

i hope everybody shows up. but everything works out. at the end of the reading, everyone is happy. ♪

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