>> well kelly, i can't thank you enough for being here today. thank you so much for your wealth of information on how we can take care of our soft story problem in san francisco. and you the viewer, if you have any questions, please feel free to visit our website >> good afternoon i'd like to call the tuesday, september 27, 2016, meeting of public utilities commission to order mr. secretary call roll. >> commissioner vice president moran commissioner caen commissioner courtney code enforcement is excused commissioners the minutes of

september 13th minutes any additions, deletions, or changes if not can i have a motion. >> so moved. >> mr. >> moved and seconded. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the minutes are approved next item general public comment this is the time for anyone that wants to discuss an item within our jurisdiction but not on the agenda today speak to us about that madam secretary any cards. >> no cards. >> anybody that want to speak in general public comment? >> afternoon commissioners executive director of bright line want to talk about calaveras that realized a 3.0 deters i've talked to about that a mapping tool it defines what disadvantaged communities are a legislative term of art for the

legislative and the viral policies statewide i told this commission in the past it didn't include bayview hunters point but the 3.0 version finally includes the bayview hunters point for tracks for san francisco that allows the targeting of state resources to the key area we would like to thank the pta for the questionnaires of bright line over of organized and signed on in the original effort. >> thank you. the sfpuc to make sure that san francisco was included in this definition recently bright line put on a submit in the - over 20 community-based organizations were in attendance and 20 private stakeholder over 40 were recommended at the submit indicating the thirst that is existing no bayview hunters

point like your continued engagement is incredibly for the final department of emergency is october 21st a friday and for the sfpuc to remain engaged is important to make sure that bayview hunters point at the end of the day will be included in the draft in the future is really important we respectfully ask the commission to continue engaging their written comments due i october 21st. >> thank you it is good news. >> any other public comment? okay. seeing none communications commissioners you have a series of communications in front of you, you any questions or comments about those? >> i do have one comment the question that i asked about what the legal basis for the practice

on lateral maintenance i received an answer on the update sheet and poke with the general manager about for lincoln's listing some memo the legally authority for the practices is in the public works code and owners main the responsibility for maintaining the lateral all the way to the city but they have the responsibility for repair and replacement of any portion under the streets so if you would confirm that and i'll also be cursed or curious as a homeowner where it is responsible for maintenance not able to do the repair and replacement. >> that's fine we'll come back at the next meeting. >> thank you very much. >> any other questions or comments? >> anything if the public on the communications? >> seeing none, moving on

another commission business commissioners? >> seeing none, i assume we don't need to have public comment on other commission business so madam secretary precede there the reports or the general manager i suppose. >> thank you we'll start the report with the general manager with a clean power update with barbara hale presenting. >> thank you good afternoon barbara hale assistant general manager for power 6 tops to go over enrollment are procurement the two i do and also talk about collections and partnering opportunities and introduce our staff what they'll be working on and answer and question about pg&e 3r50ur789 plan, with a proposed retirement at deblow

canyon and material from the update first our program successfully serves the customers over 8 thousand customer locations serving 73 active locations in addition opts out since i recorded on september 13th so we are holding steady added one .9 percent of our customers opting out from the main group our fall enforcement efforts are continued we've sent anti 67 thousand plus enrollment notices and experiencing an opt out of about 0.4 percent so far so it is quite low for this enrollment in fall it was like that when we started with our may enrollment 0 we're tracking if the first enrollment period i expect that number to

go up but quite low and received one and 51 upgrades to supergreen so that's a result of enrollment from 53 that i recorded on september 13th so a pretty nice jump over the two week period customers continue to sign up for the future enrollment we're targeting for the first quarter of 2017 we now have one and 53 customers that are executed up for that enrollment 75 percent are supergreen. >> so all good news and procurement at the last meeting several meetings i've told two other procurement to meet the requirements to for signed one of four especially xhivenths to

meet the adequacy be requirement still working on the other 3 the second requirement a long term contracting requirement of state renewable portfolio and no results to report at this time then to my third topic collaboration and partnership as we've discussed in our interests to collaborative with other cacs in california our operating and communications strategies have bang improved and informed by the collections we have with nc e and soma clean power and our voice in sacramento it has been strengthened through the partnerships we have formalized that collaboration in a nonprofit association the california community choice association or cal cca local agencies in october for the

first formal meeting to share information and experience around planning and operating a cca planning program the informal collaboration since the beginning is more formalized there that formation stay tuned and i'd like to introduce our staff just a moment to say thank you for funding those positions in our be budgets have gone through the hiring additional staff to announce today those are the power staff who positions appear in the clean power operating budget additional power communication and finance staff performed critical functions four cleanpowersf but were charge to cross the work order with the positions the power positions at least for example, appearing in

the hetch hetchy you'll introduce folks from power and communications that actually are part of cleanpowersf budget so they're working pretty much full-time on cleanpowersf 8 operation staff and 3 engagement staff plus a consultant on the engagement team let me start with the power operation do you have start with the familiar face michael our cleanpowersf director and have please hold our commissioner hasz (laughter) and i ask everyone to stand and stay standing then we have lennar urban, jordan. >> drew and aaron and absent are julia and caitlin those are folks that are assigned to power and cleanpowersf and then also members of the team are from communications amy

another familiar faces on the cleanpowersf outreach and communication team and sherry clark and i legislator and our consultant scott that fills out the team yeah. >> (clapping.) >> thank you very much have a seat. and that operation it is big task but also start taking an additional planning and programming work have not had the staff capacity i'll touch on those first of all, our growth or fatiguing plan you'll remember, if the cleanpowersf business plan that we presented in december of 2017 that we talked about phasing or growth of this program how will we get to three hundred thousand accounts in san francisco well with this effort we're now going

to again model the program financial and our understanding the site regulatory requirements consumer demand and electrical market conditions our financing needs and option and our operational readiness engaging with shareholders and the commission during the plans development and we expect to bring a final plan presentation to the commission in the spring so we'll be taking this information from the business plan updating that and enhancing with the experience in the program and engaging in an international plan that will discuss our you options how to meet the electric and higher renewable content and electrical and affordability and financial

sustainability this will explore the energy resources this plan is a statewide requirement and good utility practice we anticipate we'll be bringing this forward in the spring and then finally there is the policeman promissory note open programming and preemption we'll develop supply and demand response programs on the supply side those are the net metering material our feed in transfer program and cleanpowersf changes the potential community or shared solar program we talked about and on the demand side that the locally efficiency programming and storage programming and electrical vehicle promotion and weaning we'll include important tools it facilitate the participation in those

programs i'm thinking of a great incentives on bill replacement tools that can help us the evidence will then show what we're doing together with consumer equity, if you will, to expand the efficiency and the local build opportunity that cleanpowersf presents and again in putting those plans we'll be engaging with the stakeholders the operating cca colleagues, we have and the department of the environment staff and bring those program recommendations to the commission as their developed over the next 6 to 12 months any questions on that topic before i move on to the next that was a lengthy one. >> okay commissioner president vietor and the plans to procure

a lot of power and make efficiency investments and charge all the customers including cca and commissioner president vietor asked specifically how much renewals were part of plans they were talking about replacing the meg awaits we take into account at the condominium conversions with the puc they're projecting a good chunk 34 percent of sounds like and their territory service territory will be meet with the energy efficiency that is 40 implying what the hours and 70 percent of their sales to bundled customers will be met with the compliant renewables that is 1/3rd large hydro and

2/3rd's resources so that's a sizeable amount to have the g h g free achieved through energy efficiency the final topic was outreach material is where he the incredible puc communications team they put together materials to share today i'll ask the acting director to bring that forward to you thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon commissioner charles acting existence u communications director for the sfpuc we're excited we're embarking on the first major advertising campaign for cleanpowersf i'll show some of the expects to you shortly we're planning on featuring those pieces on the transit shelter in districts 5 and 8 only the

billboards and then were going to close the advertising period with almost a complete buy out of castro street union station pretty much every outside station advertising if that station we call it station domination that's the industry term so per commuter you take muni go to the castro street you'll notice the advisements i'll show a few of them this is wind and clean and supergreen the name supergreen leans itself to advertising to some catchy phrases we're capitalizing on that the next one is from the marital are you the next supergreen hero this is in our mailers in our mailers and talking about the program is

continuity is important we have to send out the statewide mandated notices and then the supergreen cutting our emissions to zero with supergreen we have two more we did a current article a couple of weeks or months ago it is a breeze so if you think a gm hail says the portfolio is we're featuring that heavily and the final one only you can save the planet cleanpowersf.org those will be translated into spanish and chinese and again, if you live in district 5 and 8 seeing them on billboards and transient shelters and the muni station. >> what does the small print say. >> it actually not that small

those transit shelters are tie and the billiards are huge so below here the logo the sfpuc logos clean energy is on its way to you on the advisements will be larger they're a little bit small on the escalated down versions is there any context information on that. >> the website cleanpowersf.org slash interslar to renovate, upgrade that's the primary purpose to push our website. >> and then in we're at the coal festival and this week the castro street fair and been to community groups in district 5 and 8 being in the neighborhood

talking with the primarily the residents any questions. >> i have a question. >> sure. >> why did we select district 5 and 8? >> so we found over the past couple of years we did the research projects that the electrical customers in residential electrical customers in 5 and 8 will most likely stay with the program i don't have the man's but a couple of years ago the heat maps and the areas of city perform best on the surveys that was district 5 and 8 when we put together the plan or the enrollment plan a year ago we wanted to start with the places we knew that customers were repetitive to the areas with a low opt out rates that's

why we choose districts 5 and 8. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioners any other questions or comments any public comment? on this item >> okay. seeing none so we'll think move on to the next two items with eric and a budget update. >> can i have the slides please eric sandler cfo and assistant manager i have two brief presentations for you the first regularities relates to the budgetary report we've submitted

financial statement to the auditors that are auditing the money map and followed by a kind of and recap of the financial budget. >> first in terms of the q-4 preaudit major themes you've heard them water and wastewater suffered from the revenues as a result of drought condition this is significant so for light water infrastructure $57 million about 12 percent of total revenues $11 million or 4 percent for the wastewater intermits and $10 million or 5 for the power enterprise fortunately, we mitigated reductions in revenue with the productions many of them were one time in nature thank you - >> the good news that the financial results met all the

policy target for the reserve and coverage. >> so the water enterprise as i mentioned suffered from reduced revenues to $57 million the largest share was $43 million drop the offsetting uses mitigating the reductions were primarily one time savings to our fiscal year 15 funding that reduced the debt service and provisions as to set aside money for debt services $16 million for cut off and didn't use reserves the enterprise was down $20 million on the budget. >> the wastewater enterprise lower financial impact

$11 million and we were able to balance that exactly $7.7 million was one time close out - thank you. >> i'm getting a lot of help today thank you. >> and the wastewater enterprise ended flat the power enterprise has reduced revenues from lower sales to the s pb and a significant saved 18 plus savings in distribution salesforce that's primarily that's a reduction in the costs doesn't materialize to be what they expected but a function of north off the sounds like so reduction in transition cost is less than the 18 point plus in the line item but the power enterprise ended the year to the

good siengsz we met all the reserve ratios and the debt ratios and mindful over the next two years that we're still in a post it is your of frugality we're experiencing reduced revenues i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> commissioners, any questions. >> i have one the memo that attached to this item says the water sales were one and 70 two plus how does that compare with what our budget assumes for the current year and that's our budget assumption. >> a little bit higher. >> okay. inch spoken to mr. sandler about

one thing to pursue over the next month to raise to the commission a policy how we deal with any revenues that are generated because we exceed consumption target my thinking we have assumed a level of continued conservatism if 124 is not correct that additional revenue can, a funding of the resource for the distribution programs that's a tip of the iceberg kind of description of my interests i want to make sure that that we continue to presto make our con such as this estimates really if they're not real they generate a plan and process how to take away a portion and put that into the conservatism program if we have

a draft before the commission in the next two or three meetings that would be great >> okay. thank you oh, and the other thing for cleanpowersf comment working capital reserves are $3. million what's that's part of what we are building up what is the end target on that. >> 3 months operating expenses that is 25 percent that's a little bit above operating reserve - $5 million. >> 5 modified so. >> so its - we're looking at

a month and a half of results it results during the high margin part of year working capital low fluctuate over the year i wouldn't look at that number and incorporate - >> sounds like we've made it twice over. >> that's obviously something we want to keep an eye on that was part of the trigger to think about what else we can do with revenue of costs are in terms of what the build out i know we'll keeping an eye on that. >> some do not will be more meaningful. >> any other questions or comments? by public comment or questions. >> mr. sandler appreciate your bio annual update. >> next item we've spent a lot of time in the winter and spring

working on the bilingual budget the between a rock and a hard place that you adopted in february for fiscal year 2020 r 2017-2018 and once the budget leaves the commission like the bill carton a life after commission adoption one of the things to report on what happened that is what this particular presentation and here the schedule here owls all the stuff that happened after the commission consideration and adoption after february '89 we submitted to the mayor and the controller and then i take the un - in march took it to the capital budget committee and recommended to the board of supervisors then in may both the capital and operating budget were reviewed the board approved the capital

budget in early june and the mayor signed it in late june and the board approved that and finally signed the annual appropriation an annual salary ordinance representing the citywide operating budget and then we will be submitting a formal budget to the government and financial officers association for review. >> just to recap you'll remember the budget priorities were about looufrn cleanpowersf you've heard about the launch for the last few months we're implementing the ssip and completing it increasing the pace of our meeting demands of new development and managing the impacts of drought now there were not many changes

in the budget we had a couple of technical adjustment what we realized after it left the commission on february 9th that our response to cleanpowersf enforcement was much grandchildren to opt out to the lower and the revenues and expenses to cleanpowersf were higher and now sufficient so for next year and on the capital side we also had appropriated money in the operating budget for long term modernization and many of those can be bond funded we switched from operating to capital and in addition, we had $5.9 million of developer contributions for the substation we added to the capitol budget

these are the subsequent during the course and looks similar to what you adopted here as you can see for fiscal year 2017-2018 we have it by wastewater and hetch hetchy and put cleanpowersf you see what the board submitted. >> what the mayor approved the net impact for fiscal year 2017 for the migrating operating budget and results in a no change to the budget for fiscal year 17 and then in 2015-2016 as you can see the impact of the increased expenses for energy purchasing increased the budget. >> on the capital budget here

we have the two year appropriation by water and hetch hetchy and as you can see in the first year an increase primarily because of the $12 million for mitigation monitoring and the $5.5 million for the water substation in 2018 no change so that's the recap of the process the punctuation mark i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> okay commissioners? >> we are just 0 refresher our memories clearly in the first year so the budget consideration of wastewater will be less involved in the 09 years. >> any mid cycle adjustment we

see we think are necessary we'll be presenting to you. >> submit now capital extensions or projects every single year. >> we try not to if we need to accommodate we can put them in the supplemental request and we try to follow our 10 year capital plan but do more rigorous capital plan. >> the point not to do the full on process every year. >> we'll talked about if i call it the off year to do a review of our various policies that drive the budget what are the plans for could go this cycle. >> we will be picking up that again. >> that's an opportunity if we

choose to make any changes in the policy that gives us plenty of warning to feed that into the next between a rock and a hard place coalition. >> one of the group of policies that drives the revenue requirement the financial policies we'll be considering as part of rate study we're planning to bring those sometime and doing work and hopefully present you a revenue and recommendation. >> okay. thank you. >> any other questions or comments from the public seeing none, we'll move on. >> so the next item. >> is 9 water shed update mr.

richie. >> good afternoon steve richie assistant general manager for waters if i can have the slides please i'll provide an education and recreation program first of all, for the water shed it is 23 acres of water from the spring value company in 19 thirty it includes the san mateo and creek water sheds and the feetdz into the san andreas reservoirs a fish refugee and the only fish and game for the this is the only finish and game refugee and it is part of golden gate bio reservoir this is a photo of

water shed particularly showing the mission creek canyon and in decision with the staff it is close to an urban area it is close to a play for the water shed management commissioner will recall that a management plan adopted in 2002 for the guidance the water shed includes maintaining improved the quality and public safety and provide for education and recreational compatible with other goals that clearly protecting the water quality is the number one goal and the commission adopted the water environmental stewardship in 2006 and the foundation plan was supporting the recession of species and their habitats

there are 31 miles of existing trails in the water shed two primary north-south trails the crystal springs that is managed by san mateo and the bay area that is managed by us as anticipated in the peninsula water shed we've been pursuing 3 trades it the bay area expansion and the noting santa ana dress and the improvements here's a map showing the trails the black dash lines the existing trails that run two linear courses and the dashed lines the additional trails the plan with the santa ana dress and towards the southern end and the chrysler springs on the right hand side of the map i'll

talk about those briefly this is $6 million between highway 22 and outside the water shed at the southern end the initial initiation of public review is market 17 for that we expect to complete the environmental review and start that project in 2018 on the trail by the end of 2018 and not anticipated federal environmental review but turned out there was a small grant we received from the state of california and turned out to have federal money we had to do federal environment in retrospect i'm not sure we would have done that the sonya affordable unit dress to be completed by december of this year and expect the construction in 2019

and this is a photo of the peninsula trail the ridge trail and this is open for the dos recreational hikes and bikes another trail project one being run by san mateo parks in the lower crystal springs we have south of highway 92 permitted issues this is currently on hold they're trying to deal with dangerous species issues and east perimeter trails the county is working on there is one trail project that was not in the plan the whiteing ridge connection our their general manager plan not included in the plan in 2002 but

made property acquisitions to make this more relevant this will go from the coast up to the ridge line on the northern end of the water shed it is generally consistent with the strategy to sure k345r7b8 compatible with other goals keeping them on the perimeter of the water shed discussion are underway with the development of this proposal trail management is circling done particularly for the ridge trail again that is the dos led groups proposing to move to an annual bid system coupled with that because the permit that got changed requires the environmental review you can't change it to make that policy decision we're considering 7

days a week they're aware to assess the trail and trail use this is a program that is very similar to what the east bay used for their mud trails in the east bay area so in summary we'll move forward with 3 projects identified in the original plan with the good bay area council and san mateo parks, the proposed renal and the new policies and opportunities we're looking at developing a local permitting system and with everything proposed operations need to be in the balance of the drinking water for the protection of goals there's been a lot of activity by a group to open the water shed to press for more opening of the trades in the peninsula the board of supervisors is considering the resolution urging did puc to open the water

shed and report by next march on the current projects and possible additional proposals to open more water sheds again, the board of supervisors resolution that urges the commission but cannot dictate what can be done in the matter that is being heard although i understand that supervisor avalos who is largely the sponsor is not able to attend the board of supervisors meeting it maybe put off today i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> commissioner tang. >> on the surface i don't like it i see no reap to introduce more people into our waterproofing and i do that your primary concern is water and protection of so with that, said how is this permit just going to work. >> the way it is anticipated

to work this is not flushed 0 out in detail yet is that you will have to register you'll have to have the permit with you all the times similar to other things you'll have to pad the test to make sure you read through the regulations and responsibilities as if you can't pursues the permit with requested by a staff person we'll have folks patrolling the trails you'll losses the trail privilege for one year or 5 years or lifetime. >> any them be dos. >> we'll continue that program for sure. >> we'll have a combination of both. >> yes. >> not all will be dos. >> not all dos led.

>> okay may i have the map in chloroform. >> actually, i, assess the one here. >> okay. i'm just thinking about all of that stuff. >> that's all my questions now. >> commissioners. >> yeah i'd like to echo commissioner caens concerns the safety of water shed and by the exit of area is very important so i just want to echo similar concerns about seizing that area just because you can doesn't mean you should. >> did you see that the change that that change of policy is

requires ceqa review. >> yeah. for the for construction the trail construction for changing the management approach to san francisco that more open is for a permitting system. >> i know one way we first adopted the dos a program that was a very conservative approach and came out of concerns echoed this afternoon a lot to do with the trail complex between e train concerns trails about the trails unsupervised and the trail erosion that sort of thing i assume that was quite a few years ago i assume we have a

rich history we'll help to inform our decision considering the conflict and other things to make sure they're managed and that will be part of environmental review. >> that's correct. >> as well. >> okay. well, i think that is helpful when the environmental review comes back to us the kinds of things i know i'll be looking for and sounds like commissioner caen has similar concerns to make sure as we consider expanding assess to the water shed our first job is also experience the protection of the water supply for the city and for our suburban customers as well and that will have full treatment as part of eir. >> yes. that's correct i'll be remiss if i didn't point out i'm

sure you saw a number of individual e-mails i think that doovk gives a number of e-mails from people that point an open water shed and those are all dirt roads open everything tomorrow what's the problem a large number of folks that focused on the environmental impacts was a gentleman what very telegraph hill involved in 280 when it was constructed he has a lot of history of that discussion and wanted to make sure that his voice was heard and passed that on i think that was addressed to the supervisors and definitely pass that on to the board of supervisors. >> when we went through this before a lot of experience not only the east bay mud but the mull another one with an go

extensive water shed and very different kinds of experiences they/had and we looked to and learned from them as well. >> i reminded of a comment that one of the water shed managers made in the public discussion he said your community loves our water shed their loving them to death. >> i have one water shed person to radar guns to monitor the speed of water. >> okay a lot to think about i think my colleague this is a pubically owned asset and one with a particular purpose and make sure that purpose is protected as we consider the ways to assess we have some speaker cards molten. >> i have one last question

who is responsible for enforcement the state park rangers. >> that's us. >> we coordinate with san mateo sheriff's department and many from time to time architectural operations at the water shed to be cleaned up and removed about one a year something like that so we do a lot with the county and with calfire in the water shed. >> that's a richie question puc has a long enforcement arm that enforces the regulations here. >> they don't carry firearms and no formal relationship. >> the county sheriff's are deputized but not carry firearms but hand out citation and things of that nature. >> thanks. >> okay. i have 3 speaker

cards marshall. >> thank you very much i'm appearing here on behalf of the asking you audubon society i'd like to commend the commission on considering this issue i'd like to make a couple of points wards to this no one actually is really being deprived of the experiences that the water shed could offer without offering the water shed itself there are many areas within a short small radius of the city that offer those kinds of opportunities but the down side of opening the water shed on a

limited basis history has shown that once you open those kinds of areas there's intentional pressure and requests for more opening more activities and so on as much as mountain biking and so on this water shed area is a very important environmentally and ecologyly sensitive area a number of skaurgsz species that will be disrupted we have eagles and other types of sdaurgsz species in summary having pointed out those points there - the self-residence peninsula and visitors and tourist from other areas have any other opportunity in close approximate proximity

there are trails on the east side that are miles long that offer opportunity to go along and no compelling interests in opening this to will you for further degradation and fire issues and for example, if there were a mountain lion connotation in that area there will be issues related to degrading the relationship between predator prey and so on this is not a good idea maybe some people that want to open up every area everywhere but the commission recognizes spiritual sensitivity i urge you to do the same and the additional agreement on the water shed purposed by san

francisco recognized those issues and that it shouldn't be open to more public traffic and i encourage you to you honor that long term commitment and not on the water shed to more traffic thank you. >> thank you. >> lenny robert. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm lenny robert and speaking for green foothills in santa clara couldn't thank you for the opportunity over 50 years we've been promoting access to the bay and the development of trails as well as promoting the additional park lanes and most of parks and open space visitors in the - were largely due to the efforts of citizens including our organizations we respectfully

disagree with the staff's recommendation for the unmanaged unoccupied and in this remote area the ridge sort of other connecting areas the pencil water shed is a protected water shed and a refuge not a park and not contemplated as a park when the mission district had a park that's a different kind of place proponent are taunting the responsible assess i'm sure you're aware not everybody behaves responsibly and the final eir for the management quote although most recreational users consider themselves responsible a percentage will inevolving violate the assess and engage in illegal trespass and building of unauthorized

trails a significant issue for erosion and sedimentation in the reservoirs and further one match to turn 24 into is a discharge place the rim fire your paving aware of and other fires were started with illegal camp fires hundreds of trails throughout the peninsula for unrestrict assess two which we weren't of the sierra club and audubon and the native plant society and the committee for the green hills are the major organizations all support expanding the dos a program only 3 days a week and make is that days easy for people to use it and also were partner with san francisco and peninsula schools and 09 community organizations like

latino extension to the sierra club that will help exclusive the goal of increased assess and recreational access to and protect the celebrated water quality and seattle and other cities have educational opportunities in they're fully protected water sheds and san francisco, california do the same thank you for listening and thank you also for your comments i know that you have this responsibility take is seriously and we totally support that thank you. >> thank you. >> peter. >> i hope i got the pronunciation of that. >> don't worry about the pronunciation in chinese it is

one sill building i'll peter i live in the southeast corner of san francisco and lucky to live there over 40 years never gorl gone to the peninsula water shed and i never will go it is not a park and it is not that recreation area we have you're aware i'm sure 60 thousand acres of open peninsula open space people coming from the southeast corner run into huge the huge parks san bruno from san francisco heading south you run into the ridge and the mountains 60 plus thousand spaces of open trails surrounding the water shed the water shed is opted out by red tailed frogs and mountain

lions and nature plant and sunflower and the gentleman from the audubon society mentioned if you have individuals going out into the water shed loan what if they get attacked by a mountain lion who should be hunted down for that offense we opened the door for some political reasons oh, my god we've opened you it is meaning so many politicians think we need to open up more land i don't think that supervisors know we have 60 thousand acres of open space we need to open more land it is for to thinking we as human beings need to think in the 21st century is the 6 extension we're wiping out a number of species

and think we need to protect land easier and other animals against the greatest ape the human being we need to protect the land areas and say no, no, no stop assess instead of saying expand you know you are mindful people and conscious people i want to say that we have an obligation we're destroying all the continents ata's and americans we need to protect and make them off limits i is support the expanded dos programs please don't let people in unauthorized bring a family how many what that permit person bring 15 family members thank you. >> is there any additional

public comment? >> any additional comment if the commissioners and i want to echo the last speakers comments my oldest daughter is a bird specialist and knowing there are areas that are not meant to be assessable for birds i'll okay. if we don't see species in a period of time she's okay with that the specifically intended for public space and protecting the water shed and the bio areas means we don't allow the traffic flow not meant to be assessable i want to thank the prior speakers comment. >> thank you commissioners mr. general manager. >> so i have to other items on and on not on the agenda first, the marsh expire mr. richie will

do that a fire broken out near moccasin yesterday. >> again steve richie assistant general manager for wierts if i have the slides please there we go. >> the marshes fire broke out yesterday about 1215 or so the fires size is 9 hundred and thirty acres as of 8:30 this morning and close to moccasin it is away from moccasin a good thing not clear if any of it is contained not active threaten any of the assets no impacts on water and power deliveries we are contributing because the old school house is acting as the command post for calfire at

the fire and very, very smokey in moccasin including inside of the buildings and what they call an evacuation advisory we could, asked to evacuate that could potentially effect our activities to make sure we deliver water from the local rear view mirrors we need to issue a press released about the fact if our services are continuing without impairment at this time here are a couple of photos taken yesterday as of any fire in the foothills a hot fire lots of brush the photo on the right is up in the hills above moccasin and visible at the bottom of the frame this is a map of the fire owl area that long gated with the

break points that's the fire bound as of this morning and moccasin reservoir with the arrow in the upper left hand there are 3 pink dots that are what is marked d m those are division for firefighters purposes the fire jumped highway 49 and x extinguished there's peace reservoirs one of the concern is the fire can advances up the hill and k0i7b8d there are other fires in the areas some other roads they are ideal for fighting fire if we get to that point that's continuing on this is one that gives us a visible of you know what is like today, there

actually with the reference i believe that the publisher that comes from my mother.com the sierra got the best job on this one that photograph is taken on heir one 20 so moccasin damn is in the lower right of photograph this is over that hill so a lot of concerns on our part about the fire relative to 9 moccasin not particularly the delivery of water and power at this time one last slide here we do a lot of the emergency response and carol our response manager is working closely with the moccasin staff their emergency response capability is quite good they have to respond frequently i've shown an example this is the

instant command organization we have there and setting up and going to the robs and frankly our moccasin folks do a good job of keeping on top of of the issues and making sure that none of our facilities are effected i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> commissioners. >> how was it. >> hospital highway was it started they don't know. >> was that part of -- >> jackass creek if it comes over that renal it is the water shed. >> and that event those flows get bypassed. >> correct. >> underneath the reservoir. >> we're bypassed and the

reservoir is empty. >> we'll keep you updated it started yesterday and the folks in moccasin responded and calfire has responded very, very well, there is approximately nine hundred firefighters on the scene and 86 winged ieshth and 4 helicopters and twice a day conference coolers so our next conference call is 5 o'clock this afternoon. >> and send out message as well. >> thank you. >> i have one other item which is the delta plan on the san joaquin this is the substitute environmental document and discussed it's flows on the

tribute to the san mark keen river and - they talk about the june time period and the unimpaired flows are the staff recommendation thirty to 50 percent during that period of time we're naval the document and going through that thoroughly just wanted to give you a heads-up to ask you how we'll position ourselves and comments are due in mid-november and a timeframe we'll ask for a time extension it covers quite a bit on the impacts benefits and costs and there i'll say appendix that is dedicated to san francisco we've special in this document do have more to say by the way, coming to discuss in more detail a but we

have 3 meetings two in october and one in november. >> before you need to make that final comment. >> okay any other comments by the commissioners any public comment on the general manager report? sir welcome >> thank you peter travel river trust our position we certainly need more water flowing down this for fish and wildlife we support the general direction of substitute environmental document personally i feel that sfpuc has done a good job of managing the system for purposes for the water supply and a great job at conferring water in

fairness the amount of water for the place it proportional to how much water is taken from the river i'll encourage the staff to look at under licensing requirement for that the increased flows are san francisco puc takes the burden of that 51.7 percent per the fourth agreement signed in 1966 unclear if 33 the water board imposes higher flows in the fourth amendment kicks in the interest of sfpuc to support the higher flows through the s e d and the control plan if it means that it will precede and preclude 51.7 percent opportunities for us to work

together and most of all thank you for the great work and figure out ways to protect the finish and wildlife that needs nor water and water supply the puc is a great model for the rest of the state. >> any other principles on the general manager report. >> thank you moving on to the next item the report from bosca. >> good afternoon commissioner. >> nicole bosca ceo thank you for having me first, i want to graduate commissioner president vietor and others reappointments i look forward to more years working together i wanted to touch on one thing

to give an update on east palo alto and mountain view regarding the water transfer in august on august 2nd the city manager received a letter to work with east palo alto to provide a water supply needs both of the agencies as you can see are members of the bosca the staff of east palo alto and mountain view and myself and bill of rights can are discussing the potential water transfer that is permit in the 2009 water supply agreement that was signed by all 26 boca and puc mountain view members have initiated the discussion on the terms of this transfer bosca and the puc are providing technical and legal support as necessary we're not intrinsic to the new

york city but supporting that final approval will require the affirmation for the city councils the level of approval that is needed by the puc or the other bosca agrees low depend on the final arrangement the details will have to meet the long term needs but are working together for the water transfer in the meanwhile the applications inform implement the 3 development proposals within the east palo alto is continuing though the required processes in that city to secure water and other thorthsdz through communicated meetings and discretionary visible studies before the commission and the city council and offering to fund east palo alto two-pronged solution so the developers are funding

the hiring of specialized impounded to expedite the work and retaining an attorney for transfers they did have one so it is a helpful addition to moving forward with those contracts as east palo alto and developers hope to expedite the solution for a water supply in challenge for the water contract those vendors will receive an allocation for one and if approved in the meanwhile bosca goal for this to be completed early next year i know we're working hard and provide those to donna for the record. >> i have a comment that is very encouraging and it is not

common in the water world that agencies will actually look to each other and think about boarders and think how to create and resolve problems i'm pleased to hear of that and currently all parties to proceed it is good news indeed. >> it is good news. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> any commissioners questions or comments any. >> no. >> any public comment? >> on the bosca report. >> seeing none, madam secretary the consent calendar. >> stem may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests in

which event the matter shall be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. a approve the water ascertainment so for the proposed 1629 market street project and b accept the contract approve modification number 2 increasing the contract by 200 plus and authors the final payment to the contractor and c accept the contract approved modification to increase the contract by 200 thousand plus and authorize the final payment to the incarcerating and d accept the contracts approve the modifications increasing by $91,000 plus for the time extension of 14 consecutive payment days and accept the total contract not to exceed

$6 million plus and authorize final payment to the contract our. >> okay commissioners any items you'd like to have taken off consent members of the public then can i have a motion. >> so moved. >> mr. second. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? the consent item carries. >> item 10 please. item 10 improve the amendment to authorization of extension up to one year. >> ms. happy. >> good afternoon, commissioners this item so ask for a time extension on the environmental contract with urs so they can do environmental mitigation monitoring during

construction as you recall we had a inclined package for the water shed center and the sinal ride shop and maintenance facility and the bids came in high the two types of construction are different so we bid the packages and we put out the construction of the sin outline yard so we need the vial to go along with that and monitor the construction. >> commissioners. >> i move the item. >> there is a motion and a second seeing none. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? working that motion carries. >> on the consent calendar we'll not be hearing items 17 through 22. >> what did i say. >> consent oh, on the closed

session items 17 through 22 will not are be heard. >> item 13 is existing litigation for viral scientific crack sill versus the national park service and item 14 restore hetch hetchy versus city and county of san francisco, and item 15 existing litigation city and county of san francisco versus in and out dry cleaning incorporated in and out mr. flanagan et al. >> thank you is there any public comment on items on the consent calendar - the closed session items. >> i'll get there sooner or later can i have a motion for to assert the tnt privilege.

session. >> okay. we're pack from closed session madam secretary. >> i forgot to read item 16 prior to going into closed session i'll read that an unmyth claim for proposed settlement brought by calvin arising from the incident. >> okay. thank you the commission took no action on item 14 and settlements were approved an stems 15 and 16 and no action on item 13. >> and item 13 thank you. >> okay schizophrenia can i have a motion whether or not to

disclosure. >> moved and seconded. >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that motion passes any other new business from commissioners. >> and then i'd like to first of all, thank you for your tolerance of my rusty a good deal of. >> i was not going to say anything. >> you or so kind and then also to close in recognize and appreciation wantedy appoint commissioner courtney and we're agenda

>> good morning, everybody. welcome to the board of supervisors budget & finance committee for wednesday, september 28, 2016, my name is commercially or mark farrell i'm joined by supervisor katie tang and joined momentarily by supervisor norman yee want to thank clerk linda wong and charles kremack and jennifer lowe from sfgovtv inform covering the meeting madam clerk, any announcements? >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee. completed speaker cards and documents to be included should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the october 4th board of supervisors agenda unless

otherwise stated. >> okay madam clerk item one. >> the arthur's the director of the mayor's office of economic workforce development to submit an application related document to the california the mid allocation committee for the issuance of revenue bonds in angle principle not to exceed $95 million for 2010. >> okay thanks very much. >> good morning. i'm adam for the mayor's office of economic workforce development and i'm here to present a resolution to fund the development work on the eddie taylor housing conduit that if require the city to pledge any eddie-taylor will be a one and 13 unit serving low income families located on 2010 on eddie-taylor the intersection in the tenderloin and the site for the project is currently a vacant lot no residents will be displaced the project sponsor is

the tenderloin and the tax construction lenders and bond purchaser will be identified following an 2014-2015 process it will serve low income names one hundred person units reserved for households evening no more than 60 percent of medium area income and in terms of a timeline the developers plan to submit an application to the committee within the next three weeks if what did you do an allocation they'll return for an approval the bonds to occur with the construction beginning shortly after and construction is expected to be expected by may of 2019 and on behalf of of the tndc and the mayor's office of economic workforce development i'd like to thank you for your consideration and look forward to the - i'll be happy to

answer any questions you may have. >> seeing no questions anyone wish to comment on item number o item one. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. pr i'll make a motion board with a positive recommendation. >> okay. a motion that he without objection. >> madam clerk item 2. >> resolution for the department to submit a one year - for the historically from the centers for disease control and prevention requesting $5.7 million in hiv presenting funding. >> thank you very much dpw is here. >> good morning. i'm john a health coordinator and we're the population health division branch probable for administering those fund the 6 year in our funding cycle for the cdc thank you for the opportunity the board of supervisors for take the

opportunity to moing our funds the cdc grant is decreasing over time the collection services that it provides are hiv testing in resulting in declining infection rates in san francisco a very low ratio of people that don't know their status in san francisco those funds go to support the linkage to care for people that test positive and that goes to fund new initiative like prep in the city i'm - i'm available to answer any questions. >> colleagues, any questions is there any public comment on item seeing none, public comment is closed. i motion to i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> motion by commissioner tang

and seconded by supervisor yee without objection madam clerk item 3. >> resolution authorizing the small business commission to expend the grant up to one million dollars to disperse to the qualified legacy businesses for the grant between october 1st and december you 2016. >> okay we have regina from the small business commission sorry the rest of the team. >> sorry briefly good morning chair farrell and supervisor tang and supervisor yee i'm the legislative aide to supervisor campos thank you for scheduling this item on today's agenda as you may know san francisco voters passed property tax in 2015 to create legacy businesses and a preservation fund for social and currently significant those fund will help chinatown

and cafe sanchez and others unfortunately due to a number of issues they did office of small business has not be able to disperse but my colleagues, can we take that same house, same call? colleague will talk about that the 0 resolution will extend the deadline for office of labor & standards enforcement for the september 30, 2016, to december 16, 2016, we thank you and ask you for forwarding those items to the full board with a recommendation. >> good morning chair farrell and supervisor tang and supervisor yee regina the director of office of small business give you a little bit of background on expands on

the information she's provided to hopefully address some of your questions so prop j was passed by the voters and established two grant to businesses or we're refer to the legacy business the resolution before you is specifically in relation to the small business defined in a resolution the legacy business assistants grant program allows registered legacy businesses to annually apply for granted during july one and through september 30th and that has the proposition is written fund can be to people that submit applications during this period of time we've had a slow start to the program and

underway the small business commission has directed the department the office of small business to extend the filing period from october one to defenseless 2016 for those two reasons one as of monday october 3rd, '24 legacy businesses 34 businesses that will be in the legacy business registry we're anticipating 23 more by december 16th with the intention of prop j we want to give overseeing businesses the opportunity to apply for the grant that the small business commission as of monday october 3rd will be finalizing the legacy business grant program application and guidelines and so because of this to this date between the july one and september 30th period which is the application filing period that application has not been available for businesses to be

able to apply so we've not had any applications to the grant program and - so while the small business commission can direct the department to extend the grant filing period it is only the board of directors that can authorize the department to disperse to the applications submitted during the extended filing period that's why this resolution it is doing should the board of supervisors approve that so like i said the resolution before you and upon the board of supervisors approval will authorize the small business commission to disperse fund from the one million dollars hfb account the board of supervisors allocated in the 2016-2017 budget to the department so the dispersed - upon the approval of this resolution the office of small

business will disperse fund to approved applications between october 1st and december 15th just to be clear we're not spoke e seeking additional funding through this resolution i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you supervisor yee. >> thank you regina - just to be clear we're extending the filing period for legacy businesses the question is that going to postpone giving any funding to ones that have already met the deadline. >> no - because we are just now going to be approving the application application form and

guidelines to the legacy business grant program there are currently no applications that were submitted between july one and september 30th to so the answer no delay no applications submitted to - what we're doing by extending the timeline is allowing those businesses that have been placed on see registry and those to be placed on the registry by september 15th to be able to apply for the funding. >> thank you. >> supervisor tang. >> sorry thank you and just to refresh my memory was it the staffing funding. >> that was in the 16, 17 and then you reauthorized the staffing funding for in the 15, 16 and reauthorized in the 2016-2017 budget so currently historic

preservation fund accountability the one million dollars you authorized with the 2016-2017 budget i think the supplemental you may be referring to the supplemental heard before this committee for the 2015-2016 budget those because they're not reactivated my understanding those funds did not get put into the historic preservation commission account. >> so that's what we're essentially trying to do here today. >> no, no, no what this resolution is specifically requesting you have to authorize our department to disperse my funding to the legacy business assistants program to any plagues that were received after october 30th the way the proposition is written we're only authorized to disperse funding to applications received 2w7b july 1st and september 30th but because of delay start to the programming we were not able

to one have applications ready for businesses to fill out that's why the commission directing us to extend the application filing period. >> okay. thank you. >> does that answer your question so it is authorizing us to disperse the funds that were budgeted in the 2016-2017 account to this program after september 30th. >> great, thank you. >> supervisor yee. >> so the allocation was one million dollars at a time and the supplemental that we approved that's now seems like out of play was for what amount? >> i and that was specifically for the rent stabilization grant different from this resolution for the business assistance grant i don't remember that was 200 and something thousand

so - and just to be clear the one million dollars allocated to the historic preservation fund account we have yet to do specific allocations this is the first year of funding we want to make sure we're appropriately allocating the right amount based the needs and we'll see that from the application purpose submitted this first time around. >> great, thank you. >> okay. colleagues any future questions okay open up for public comment anyone wish to comment on item number 3? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues, any questions or comments or motions no, go ahead and make a motion to pass this on to the committee with a positive recommendations to the full board. >> motion by supervisor yee and seconded by supervisor tang

without objection. >> item 4 the administrative code for the prevailing wages and city contracted for security guard services that prevailing wages be paid for security guard at southern event and amending the clarification regarding the worker retention requirement for security guards. >> this was sports by supervisor kim joining us in chamber. >> thank you chair farrell and colleagues today, i seek your support amending the administrative code for the prevailing wages and city security guards presently no prevailing wage for the security guard services according to the bureau of labor statistics in 2015 over one million security guards and one and 51 thousand security guards in the state of california that means that more security guards this this country than police officers and

expected for continued growth e grout we've come to rely on security guards for tasked with the important work of protecting our community and families yet the workers we contract earn $15.34 this is actually blow the national howell wage of $13 plus setting a prevailing wage for security guard as janitorial and garage and parking lot and trade show workers will insure that the skthdz contracted are paid a more dedicated wage it is hard to compare this workers have $1 plus in increases and many make an excess of $16 that included health insurance and sick days

security guards execute work is one of the most diverse job industries raising the wage impacts poverty and equities in our city and nation wide americans are 11 period of time felt workforce and 20 percent of security guards who will this ordinance potential help this it nudes non-union security guards at the central shops and sfpuc and others that may not be covered we do have - to pose an amendment to the administrative code that one prevailing wages security guards services and require that the prevailing wages to be paid for security guard services at certain types of event on city property and make a technical clarification requiring the requirements for security guards so in this item we ask the prevailing wage to be

paid under a city contract and that citywide workers to work on city properties under this safeguards services will be paid no less think outside the box fringe benefits or matching in private employment they must have compliance and setting a prevailing wage gives security guards of whom we rely an economic security the type of security they provide improving the quality of life for those workers in this important field colleagues thank you for your time and consideration and thank seiu w w for working closely on this ordinance along with osc our city attorney and want to give special recognition to barb lopez that working closely with all the stakeholder to get this across the finish line it took

longer than anticipated colleagues i'm available to answer any questions or address any comments if not open up for public comment. >> all right. go to public comment. i do have a speaker card. >> so i will call up the cards i have but please line up after the speakers i've called (calling names) if i didn't call your name but want to speak line up after the speakers i've called and line up by the speaker podium. >> good morning to all of you all the supervisors my name is samuel coal i have

worked here as a security guard officer in san francisco so for the last ten years for multiple service south here in san francisco the job site isn't city and every year this contract that we have goes out for bid and when it does it say stressful we never know whether we're going to win the contract or lose it so we always afraid that we're going to losses it and we're to lose our salaries and benefits we've been working hard as union people in the city so the difference we see working for a union company is a big difference as opposed to a non-union company we were making 14 to $16 an hour affordable health code health care and get paid 8 holidays per year and our

vacation pay i just received my vacation pay i got one month it's a lot of money that i worked for 10 years and able to get this money i appreciate that i can pay my bills i can pay my car note and utility bills so i don't want to lose none of my benefits i have here with the union company and would appreciate if you provide this for 0 the workforce here in the city which will help the security guards to proceed in their effort to take care of their families and ourselves thank you. >> thank you very much. >> morning i'm michael i'm the industry vice president for security of invited workers west

i've been a security guard in downtown for impractical forever and kitty-corner in the state building i'm going to talk about special events in the city you hear when a special event like oracle sometimes, it goes smooth but a lot of time a button feeder company and you always hear when it brings in jokes are they good jobs or jobs that make it so even if you work hard you'll have to borrow from peter to pay paul and decide whether to pay the water bill or put food on the table for kids there should, certain standards you

know a lot of money is brought in everyone should prosper this goes a long way towards doing that simple things like halfway descent pay sick days when our sick and health care they don't think that was a struggle to get it for us we to work hard to have a standard at all and things going on city property shouldn't undermine those standards. >> thank you very much. >> hello my name is jan eucalyptus i'm here to ask you to support the prevailing wage for security officers i've been working for 15 years for the sfmta san francisco municipal

transportation agency which is a city of work site every few years the contract goes to bid that's a concern of mine and my coworkers if we keep our benefits and at sfmta we felt this threat not too long ago we've raised you're working standards the difference working for a union are better wages and better salaries increases we also have job security just cause termination not fireside for no reason a just cause and seniority that alleviates 235i678 in the workplace and a voice through collective banker power we're not alone in the bay area it is expensive to live and a struggle to survive if our wages went down to minimum wage or lost our

benefits there will be an increased struggle for myself i work 6 to 7 days a week if any wage went down to minimum wage i see myself easily working 16 hours a day i'm asking you to go, please support prevailing wage for security officers thank you. >> thank you, mr. cost a. >> good morning ladies and gentlemen, my name is juan i'm here to talk about the security api i've been in security for t the defendant to let you know we're finishing our contract with dpw we're in an unpredictable contact that is day to day so the thing is you

know we're concerned about all the security guards that have no union which is the ones they don't have no health benefits and there's a lot of small companies in the city the security companies they need a union because those security officers they're relying on themselves they don't have a health or dental plan and they need to have those union so that's one of the concerns i want to share with you today and the other thing is, you know, on behalf of the security guards i'd like to ask you to approve that law which is the prevailing wage that is allow and secure the security guards with the union officers for the health plans they need and also the dental plan and visible plan they need a lot of security officers they're struggling at this moment with $15 an hour and

many of the security guards only you know this wage to pay their builds for the family and a lot of security officers have more than 4 kids need the better benefits and wages to survive ladies and gentlemen, please take into consideration and thank you very much for this opportunity. >> thank you. >> good morning, supervisors. i'm with with the seiu and thank you, supervisor kim for working with us and say a little bit why and how it is happening when the janitors their wages was passed for janitors unfortunately security officers were novelist organized to have a good prevailing wage standard in the city so they were left out tgret

news they've raised the standards and quite frankly not where they should be with the prevailing wage that didn't include retirement for security officers we're at a place having a prevailing wage will help officers who are struggling to get by and what we've seen is that the security non-union are worst repeat offenders and we need to create a level the playing field so that contractors that are responsible and paying good wages and benefits can compete and not investigating having to expedite 19 compete against others that includes the contractors and subcontractors at construction sites city construction site

every workers that are struggling 2, 3, 4 in poverty are the security officers quad the sites we want to thank you, again, for moving this now couldn't come at a betterment for security officers and will make a difference for hundreds of security folks struggling in san francisco. >> thank you, ms. martin. >> my name is collin an organizer with seiu i work on the moscone center thank you, supervisors for this situation this is a situation of groups of workers youpz of people that fell through the cracks without given the right attention i'm an organizer and we organized a group of workers they don't clean power after a show and through organizing them we raised their wages $4 an hour and extended their shifts from 4

hours to longer shifts those are jobs that people previously couldn't survive on in the moscone center you have numerous contractors doing security work and for example, case in the at oracle that happened there were 4 different unified school district companies working that event you all of whom were competing and trying to increase cut each other i can imagine when there's no floor for people to fall down on this is about giving attention to a group of workers not given the proper attention and some good to be done here reappreciate our attention thanks. >> anyone wish to comment on

item 1 way mr. chair close public comment. >> public comment is closed. >> mr. rose, can we go to your report. item 4 please. >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee. and supervisor kim we explained in our recorded on pages three and four the physique impact is uncertain this is a policy matter for the board of supervisors. >> thank you very much colleagues, any questions for the budget analyst. >> just one more thing i forgot to mention that pat milling began is here to answer any questions. >> i saw mr. mulligan welcome to the chambers thanks for being here colleagues, any questions for staff or a motion. >> i'll make a motion to approve that and i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> okay. a motion by supervisor tang and seconded by supervisor yee

objection. >> thank you >> (clapping.) >> madam clerk item 5. >> resolution approving and authorizing the zoning administrator to authorities 7 amendment with the moscone center joint have you an opinion for the moscone center to extend for an additional 10 years for 2027. >> thanks very much good morning. >> chair farrell and vice chair tilly chang and supervisor yee and commissioner kim my name is john the director for the city thank you for your review and consideration of this important resolution before you today, the zoning administrator and s m g worked to reach full terms of the agreement and of this amendment i'm pleased to report we're in total support of

budget analysts recommendation thank you, mr. rose for our hard work in our collective opinion served as a frays operator to the city and the visitors and residents of san francisco so joining me are deputy administrator and members of the sf g leadership so you have any questions thank you for your time and consideration moving forward. >> thank you, sir. >> supervisor tang. >> thank you i don't have any particular questions but maybe for the public sake and public record can you talk a little bit about any changes in the agreement before us today, i understand that mr. rose pointed out that the agreement have not been extremely bid since 1920 but one vendor for the large

convention if you can talk about what might have changed or not in the agreement. >> thank you, supervisor i'll defer to deputy city administrator. >> good morning ken deputy city administrator as noted in the budget analyst report the current agreement approved by the department of with the moscone center operation center allowed for the zoning administrator to renew the agreement as she did they continue to operate the center well unless any major changes and terms with that most recent extension we wanted to look at a number of terms one we wanted to improve the city revenue share for food and beverages as well as for internet services a growing area for the convention centers one of the preliminary changes to increase the revenue

share from 25 percent over the next 3 years to 35 percent for food and beverages and for internet services so as indicated in the budget analyst report that will likely have a minimum of $4 million potentially 5 or $6 million more to the city as a result of those changed terms and wanted to provide additional capital contribution for the moscone expansions project this extension will provide a $15 million capital contribution for the expansion and done other management agreement and looked at it various terms they had in their agreement related to the final recordkeeping and " and wanted to bring this all the time up to industry standard we

included the changes in the amended - >> great, thank you for that overview. >> okay. >> i'm looking at the table here on the mr. rose's report on page 10 i don't know if you have it in front of you you indicated that the new contract will provide more from the food and beverages source but the net seemed to be not going up all that much and then you look at the city expenses column and is seems like not

gaining traction this is only for up to 2015-2016 i guess what i don't see the projections when it is up to 35 percent. >> not seeing any of those numbers. >> supervisor if you look at table two on page 9 of the report rainy-day funds under the proposed amendment and you look at the food and beverages column had show every year what the projection is going forward year one up to 14 that is $7 million. >> okay. >> right but specifically for the food and beverages that shows the change the table you're referring to an page 10 is more of a historical looking at the past what the revenue has been but going forward it is table 2. >> all right. thank you very much. >> colleagues, any further questions mr. rose, can we go to your report. >> yes. mr. chairman, and

members of the committee. on page 9 of our report the department indicated in 2015-2016 the city received about 17.9 moultdz in revenues therefore the proposed extend 10 year average with 21 point of million dollars in revenues will be approximately $3.7 million or 25 percent increase in revenue those estimates are the gross revenues in 2016-2017 the gross revenues to be generated over the next 10 years is likely to surveyor on page 10 of our report that is shown in table 3 which supervisor yee referenced that over the past 8 years the city has extended $33 million plus or average of $1.4 million than every year for the revenues

under the agreement according to the moscone center annual operating shortfalls are opportunity with general funds revenues general fund transfers appropriated every year in the budget and the department indicates this is an industry standard for city's cities to subsidies them different from convention centers we note that although according to the deficits where anticipated to continue the proposed agreement will increase the share of revenues paid to the city such that the deficits incurred by the general funds should improve relative to the operating terms and final on page 11 as supervisor tang has pointed out the subject management agreement is not extremely bid a over a period of 25 years, however,

according to the department the sparking spectator is the only one experienced with the top conference centers by size in the united states los angeles is the only convention center managed by a private contractor other than spectator management group we recommend you approve that. >> thank you, mr. rose colleagues, any questions open up for public comment i have a number of speaker cards i'll read i think i thank you for being here (calling names). >> if anyone else please line up against the far wall 2 minutes to speak and get moving. >> good morning, supervisors john sfraifl we enthusiastically

support this to continue to manage the moscone center san francisco travel is responsible for that's a great question groups to use the conference facilities with the aim of insuring the city 3450789 misses the benefits of this important asset the smooth and efficient operation of moscone center is critical to that's a great question new business but to capture repeat business in the medium planning f m g has an sxeerl reputation and the management of moscone is respected this is enabled the city's success s m g a great partner in the expansion of the moscone center that will soonl increase the value of that asset this has made them a member of the san francisco travel and tourism industry for those reasons it is our hope that s m

g will continue to manage this important asset for the city and county of san francisco. >> thank you. next speaker. >> thank you. i'm owen a business rep for local 10 we do conventions throughout northern california and 80 percent of the work around the bay area i'll read briefly from a letter and submit it into the record together we work to promote san francisco as a premium place for attendees this is as city we love and respect we have been treated as partners in the problems both from our employers and the management of s mfshlgs g when the building was open at moscone i want - maintaining an active convention center the work by s m g with the construction crews are

exceptional and for cycling turning moscone into one of the greenest centers in the world and s m g focuses on safety they supported local 510 to train our members and to establish protocols to protect all of us we represent seven hundred plus workers that maintain descent livelihoods one that pays fair wages for medical and retirement coverage s m g is a strong commitment to support the entire working community of more than 2000 plus full-time or part time workers to support our families and reached out to the surrounding community including many nonprofits that support many of the vulnerable populations of our city i'll leave it at that there is another paragraph but thank you for your time. >> thank you very much.

>> next speaker, please. >> collin u.s. w w i'm a representative for 3 groups of workers with whom we have a contract with s m g traffic control officers i'm going to read a letter in support of expanding the contraction for the exception as s m g support our members many are struggling to compete with the city with rising housing prices moscone center serves as a very successful world-class venue as a result of - members pride in their jobs further with ongoing management meetings an assurance that the environment for our workers is something that everybody can live with furthermore s m g has neutrality

in the non-union with the consumers at the moscone center those contractors in cut the standards us w w has build ulcer up and seen a increase in outside contractors in the industry excluding moscone security sea invited professional services we struggle to organ those workers s m g employees many full-time and part time and contributed through the dedication of their personnel as a nonprofit organization to service the most vulnerable populations including glide and st. anthony's and homeless connect and for those reasons we request that you extend this contract thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> thank you, supervisors is with the restaurant works local

2 s m g employees hundreds of food and beverages thanks to the work at the moscone center with other related business those hundreds of families have full paid health care and retire with a pension this is the sector jobs were socializing in need of more in the city the complexity shouldn't be missed of running an operation like moscone center 19 with events coming and going multiple at the time and in fast - is a task s m g does an extraordinary job in addition he want to point out the disruption that will happen in the security of having this out to bid there's no need

for subjecting hundreds of families and thousand of families to that insecurity especially given san francisco real viable alternatives nobody that does the job better than s m g here's a letter from our president. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good morning, supervisors my name is joanne desmond i represent local 16 tremendously stage that employees we urge the city to renew adversities contract with s m g that creates hundreds of jobs and expanding the economic opportunity throughout san francisco the international alliance of stage employees representing over 15 hundred workers served the bay area entertainment industry for over one hundred 2 two years the convention industry has unpresented growth over 35 years

and kept the workers stooeld applied we have continued to grow as we work through the everyday challenges that events planning s m g committed to the working families of san francisco we urge the city to are you new the management with s m g contract it is important for the future of san francisco s m g management quality of services keeping the world-class status that the moscone center holds today thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good morning. my name is a bob i'm not the acting general manager with s m g at the moscone center i'm going to change my plan i had come prepared to read several very nice letters from clients that utility moscone center but our

lavish partners talking about the right they have for the try and for what moscone center provides for the residents in the bay area i want to support the fact i do understand the fact that those are the folks that are truly the heart and soul of moscone center and it's success the training the respect they show for the industry is beyond comparisons moscone center is one of the largest not the largest but the busiest convention centers we're the 25 largest and 17 largest once the expansion is completed and i just want to acknowledge the team for all they do 65 percent of clients return on a regular basis and have a wonderful relationship all about industry and relationships we'll be pleased to continue our

doesn't the to the city as s m g and look forward to your support thank you very much. >> thank you very much colleagues, any further questions or comments. >> can i submit those letters. >> sure. >> okay. seeing none for item 5 public comment is closed. >> colleagues, any questions. >> comments or motions. >> i'll make a motion to i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> motion by supervisor tang and seconded by supervisor yee indication madam clerk call item 6. >> item 6 resolution finding the proposed term to terminal 3 to connect the san francisco international airport that is feasible and responsible to the administrative code chapter 29. >> okay thank you we have kathy wagner from the airport. >> thank you chair farrell and members of the board i'm kathy

with the san francisco will airport pursuant to chapter administrative code the airport suicidal seeking our approval or finding that the proposed secure connecter project is going philharmonic feasible and responsible it exists of a secured connector the one terms two and three and 97 square feet of office space to serve the function and provide retail opportunities the entire project is expected to cost excuse me - one and $71 million bursa plus and will be paid for by airport revenue general airport revenue bonds those were previously authorized by the board of supervisors the airport staff has not programmed concession opportunities in the space buses estimated a potential increase in retail sales of one percent

will be the result of the additional space which translates to about $493,000 a year in addition revenue additionally the office block will free up leasable space in the international terminal that is occupied by the airport staff the potential rate fees associated with that space are estimated to be in the range of $16 million a year secure connectors exist between terminals one and two and 2 and boarding area in the international terminal the proposed connection our allows the passengers to move between the terminals without having a exit and be rescreened and will help with the scalding by the airlines and gives the passengers more time in the

terminals to extend money on concession and services under the lease agreement between the airport and airlines operating at the airport 15 percent of grow concession revenues are allotted to the general funds for the annual service payment the estimated 4 hundred plus in concession revenue will mean about an increase of $74,000 per year in the annual payment last year's from the city was $4 million the project will take about 2 and a half million dollars from the board approves did feasibility of the project the airport will begin their environmental impact with the department of planning in accordance with the ceqa requirements and the admin code did budget analyst concludes the project is philharmonic feasible

and responsible i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you very much what's the construction timeline. >> about 2 and a half years. >> okay. >> colleagues, any questions. >> okay mr. rose, can we go to your report. >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee. on page 18 of our report the total project costs are one and $85 million plus that computed construction and related cost of one and 71 plus and reserves that service payment are stemmed to be $12.8 million annually and totals $31 million that includes the one and 55 in principle and plus in interests expenses and ms. wagner stated we conclude the airport and office block is feasible and responsible as

defined under chapter two 9 of the city's miffed and recommend you approve that resolution. >> thank you, mr. rose any questions for the budget analyst anyone wish to comment on item number 6 seeing none, public comment is closed. >> i'll go ahead and make a motion to with a positive recommendation without objection. >> madam clerk item 7. >> item 7 resolution authorizing the sheriff's to enter a contract with the california department of rehabilitation to contract forceps and extending expends up to $6.1 million of relief florida state prison and the county jails and secure reentry approval for 2017. >> okay. thank you very much our sheriff vicki hennessey in

2011 gosh signed into law ab 109 and ab 17 the realignment act the sheriff's housed combats coming back to local place we use the entry pod an active pod but it serves two to three inmates so a good deal we get melon from the state from the 3 inmates if the state prison but provide reentry for other people going forward it is difficult to say how many inmates we'll be asked to take with proposing 57 voted on in november. >> great. thank you very much. >> colleagues, any questions. >> okay mr. rose, can we go to

your report. on item 7. >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee. on page 23 of our report the total not to exceed for the 9 months period approximately 2016 to there are no 2017 is one million dollars plus as shown in table 2 on page 23 we note the state are reimburses the county the sheriff's says the average number of inmates to the pod will be one to two over the 9 months period from october 1st, 2016, through 2017 the estimated reimbursement will be $26,000 plus we recommend i approve this resolution. >> thank you very much mr. rose colleagues me questions okay opening up for public comment anyone wish to comment on item number 7 seeing none, public comment is closed.

>> thank you. >> i'll make a motion i make a motion to send it to the full board with a positive recommendation. >> >> okay motion by commissioner tang and seconded by supervisor yee without objection madam clerk would you call item 8. >> item 8 to consider the relief services to the office of district attorney's office and the mayors reserve one $.9 million for the investigation bureau. >> thank you very much we have christine barry from the district attorney's office and why not take it away. >> good morning chair farrell thank you for tuchld thank you for having us. and to the budget analyst office for their report we come opposed to the recommendations from the budget analyst office seeking the release of those funds you mean the da property the

investigations bureau to get a handle on the officer-involved shooting and in custody death investigation for the city and county of san francisco the way those investigates are currently handled the san francisco police department is the lead investigative agency into criminal conduct of their own employees that is a conflict of interest we proposed to step in and take over that work and in the process of investigating with an mou to finalize that arrangement next is the release of the fund we recommend a reduction in the pay from the top step 9 percent reduction that is problematic for multi reasons the investigator category an agreement with the investigators union more than 6

seniority our staff is paid at the top steps owe not looking for less experienced investigators we anticipate the investigators will be seeking a long career in law enforcement as many of the investigators have that will be a very untenable situation and similarly to conduct the type of homicide investigations for the team and the prosecution securing expert witnesses and making complex and critically important legal decisions on behalf of the city and county that requires a high-level of prosecutor i can't tell experience and looking for those advertising and we anticipate we will receive many any quality

advertising and our practice we hired letter of the law from other prosecuting agrees we acknowledge the experience 5 of our last recent hires this is not an unprecedented move and will be critically important we want to be sure the staff we assign it is the best and can do this work declining and appropriately for us. >> okay again colleagues questions right now and before the budget analyst report. >> supervisor tang. >> that might comes up after mr. rose report but mr. rose states the district attorney's office in track the amount of hours to track and investigate a case not known how many of e how

much time to close and a backlog of 20 open officer-involved shooting incidents but also the district attorney's office is identified over 4 thousand cases open due to new materials the staffing was 14 ftes and so i don't know if you can give us more details around the 14 ftes with the new brady material and the officer-involved shooting incidents. >> sure thank you supervisor the 14 there are 6 advertising and 6 investigators and two paralegals into two teams this is people on call if there's a shooting another 2 in the morning or in the afternoon they have to be on call two weeks a month that is beyond what is appropriate in the industry should be more than one time a month that's relatively

significant it indicates the employees can't leave the region they can't go to children's sporting events out of the area and have a glass of wine need to be ready to respond to the incidents it is a significant imposition on their personal life two teams handling those and in addition it 80 that because we understand this work has some fluctuations we afternoon 6 officer-involved shootings a year and two in custody death a year we looked back to 1997 we feel confident those averages remain constant and for the work brought on many scandals within the police department that is currently a backlog of 4 thousand cases as a

result with the text rate of interest message in 2015 and we anticipate that work will priority an appropriate day to day work when their in between investigations we don't anticipate they're being really any downtime we think it will be under asked in our request but modest in our achievement and hope we can use the staff as allotted we don't keep track of hours for robberies and other thing we work for the city and county of san francisco our people are salaried employees we have done withhold to see how much time our staff is spending every single unit works more than a 40 hour week we're satisfied we're looiltd the staff we have at hand and

indicated to supervisor farrell's office we'll certainly make efforts to try to create some type of tracking form for our paralegals that will be new for us you'll have to be understanding of that but we are confident the work is there as it currently exists and will continue to exist we're happy to provide documents as we missouri move through the process to show you we're having the advertising and staff working. >> i think that i mean, i think known disagrees with the intents behind what the da is trying to do here but one of the concerns i generally have is this is you know a new unit a lot of staff and, of course, a workload we see for the foreseeable future we certainly hope that in san francisco those

officer-involved shooting these will be on the decline we have you know different ballot measures in november to try to address those issues so again, we're hoping that in the future there will not be a need for more investigations i was trying to say how we track the workload maybe a time we don't need 14 ftes for this work and have something in place to evaluate what that occurs when do we need to flex up and down with that unit. >> absolutely that's our hope we don't see those i think every administration and every person in government hopes duran during they're ten you are hyperglycemia i'm happy we'll be staffed by arriving at a point the city in the country didn't have an officer-involved shooting we need to re-evaluate that and the conviction rate will stand and we'll see the

value as was 3r50ed forward but re-evaluate if it no longer exists. >> supervisor yee. >> so i know that your department basically made an estimate how many you modestly might need since this new unit basically trying to replace the work that the police department was doing internally was there any analysis of how many equivalent workers to do this type of work. >> it's a not information i have i don't know from the mayor's office or the budget office i can tell you at a crime scene general 20 sfpd that's an

envelope not seeing anything nor substantial. >> so i'll reserve that question to the budget analyst so see if they did an analysis of what the staffing might look like. >> do we - >> to you have an answer. >> we have melissa white house. >> thanks so much hi, i'm melissa acting budget analyst that's a great question similar to the budget analyst we had a lot of the questions about the unit and he had need for 14 staff like supervisor tang and although we stepped on reserves

we understand the need for the 14 position and we talked about in the district attorney's office the upcoming process spending a lot of time understanding once they show us some of the works implemented and the hours their seeing and the need he think part of that definitely to answer your question looking at the police side did the police needs the same amount of staff knowing some of the work shifted to the district attorney's office and can that help fund or a ram down over 7, 8, 9 and really making sure we're checking in to make sure the stacking is right at both department. >> thank you for your explanation and actually, you you answered my other question i would have asked what impact on the police department staffing and whether or not they'll be a reduction or not 415 so i'll wait for that analysis.

>> ongoing mr. rose, can we go to your report so we can get all these. >> mr. chairman and members of the commission i'm not surprised when a department disagrees with our recommendation but i'm surprised that a department comes down here and has access to the report in the report by the way, the department only referenced one of our recommendations which was step adjustment should it not reference our salary savings so, now the department this is a minor thing supervisor so for the whole recommendations the report to us two of the positions will be hired on september 26th. >> today's data september 28th i'm surprised the department will not acknowledge a savings of two days more important than

that but i think this illustrates something about our analysis in the department and the departments response to our analysis there are first of all, let me go back to page 28 the requested cost of one $.8 million for 2016-2017 for the new da investigative bill are shown on page 28 of the report now we stat on that page given the release of reserves not released until 2016 by the way, in the department tells us they've hired the positions i hope they don't say that that makes our role meaning less and mr. gibner said this is illegal

to hire before the board of supervisors response we state it is not possible for the district attorney's office to hire position in september we also state that the our recommendation would be to add attrition savings with the fringe benefits like i said in the budget process is it so extremely modest 200 and $33,000 plus that account for one month delay in hiring of an entire 15 positions i'm assuming the department didn't hire any positions that's illegal. >> can i - >> i want to finish my - >> why not finish and go one by one. >> the other recommendation the department addressed as far is the step adjustments we note that the salary and fringe benefits in the district attorney's office proposal shown

in table 3 also reflect the hiring of new positions at the hive possible salaries including for the 16 attorney jobs class we state it is unlikely every new hire will be place at the highest place with no advancement or one and 21 plus that is bans we look forward their entire budget of positions already in the budgeted and made a compatible and look at the step adjustment and made a compatible recommendations for the new unit to be consisted with their budget that's how we came up with that we heard supervisors some censure of the compatible salaries i want to state to you, in fact, we looked at the compatible salaries in

santa clara and san mateo county based on the analysis we are recommended that reduces salary steps of one plus which we believe is more than reasonable after looking at in daily of the santa clara and the san mateo salaries for the district attorney's office in those jurisdictions we didn't gear it to specific positions for the district attorney's office to have fleshth to provide whatever steps we made that has as overall number we felt was more than reasonable to reduce the salaries expended our final recommendation supervisors are on page thirty of our report first, we requested the district

attorney's office to submit this has to do with with what supervisor tang stated we no idea when we asked for hours i'm surprised they couldn't give us the hours you think they'll be able to see based on on 12e789 number of cases and hours here's how we came up to the 14 positions that was not done so our recommendation is to submit to the and the budget analyst during the next budget process a documents on the individual staffing housing and expended i assume the department does not disagree i think they want to voluntarily provide that information to the committee for next year to know how many staff they need, and, secondly, a long term staffing plan for the

independent changes and caseload and reduce by one million dollars plus this is the salary savings and then we say we consider release of that amount to be a policy matter for the board of supervisors and the reason why we still believe it is policy we don't kink how many positions are needed but we certainly accept whatever the budget & finance committee decided. >> i very much proficient our analysis pay supervisor tang questions or comments. >> thank you. i wanted to see in the district attorney's office can respond to the issue of the two positions sponsored to be hired on september 26th but not yet hired provide an update. >> appreciate harvey's spirited response thank you for acknowledging that we haven't

hired but eager to hire hoped to hire as soon as the budget concluded but waiting for the release of reserve we have a date that passed by two you can't see days but multiple costs and relayed that in the conversation with the budget analyst office need to secure vehicles and pay for expert witnesses because this is a project we anticipated we'll users savings towards those costs and an additional hearing but have costs beyond the costs of staff beyond this unit our anticipation those attrition can help to offset those costs. >> mr. chairman. >> sorry one follow-up do you have something to shows up perhaps how much is it so costing for the expert witnesses so we can compare. >> u didn't even can share

with you. >> great. >> mr. chairman and. >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee. this is exactly what we would expect from the department says now they have other expenditures they gave you a specific request for specific expenditures we identified reasonable savings we believe you should continue to reserve we have no problem from the fang they may have additional expenditures but supervisors i ask you shouldn't the department request a formal synonyms to bet let the budget analyst and the budget and finance look at the expenditures in the manner we've reviewed those churches and make our recommendations to you at a time. >> thank you, mr. rose you agree obviously it is our role here to get detailed expenses

have those costs been shared with the budget analyst. >> we have copies. >> no about before have you talked with them. >> yes. >> supervisor we didn't get at the beginning not made in any formal analysis of those additional expenditures if we had we would have put it in our report. >> we didn't. >> let me say something up front. >> from a policy perspective from us to make a decision about the letters with that said i'll pretty much be inclined to see the need and the process is very, very important but here

with all due respect doing savings and getting a piece of paper on the day of our approvals that is not what we do at the board we need details where the money is going if we leave it up to the department to save money an xyz that's not what the budget and finance committee is supposed to be doing i again as much as i want to support this package here having to just saying you're right hiring date are wrong but spend it elsewhere that's something i find hard to school swallow with that said, let's go through this and if our budget analyst hadn't seen those numbers i'm frustrated on that. >> chair farrell we shared that in the budget analyst

office we indicated those additional costs and additional time to analyze that that maybe a separate question but i apologize for frustration people are feeling we anticipated those costs and hopefully those attrition savings if we need more conversation i'll be happy to discuss that. >> we'll use it elsewhere but not told about elsewhere with in analysis. >> just to be clear mr. chairman as you recall in the budget process the mayor's office budget director submitted a technical amendment to initiative initiate this program and recommended you reserve it you did and specifically reserve was for positions and costs listed on page 28 excuse me -

yes on page 28 of our report totally one million dollars plus so that while the department substantially gave us some information an additional expenditures that was not part of the request that came over the formal request and we didn't evaluate those expenditures because we only evaluated what was count by the finance committee we made our recommendations to come up with some reasonable salary savings and adjustment savings by all means at your direction we'll look at the costs chair farrell and come back with a recommendation if those additional expenditures are justified. >> at this .659 is a supplemental. >> sorry. >> a supplemental of that year. >> right even more exactly -

that's correct. >> chair farrell as i indicated we're not requesting those fund we priority them to the budget analyst office to help explain why any reduction in the one .8 is challenging we'll have additional expenses we're assuming in the 2016-2017 but attrition loss we're not hiring vacant positions for other vacancies in our office. >> the 659 is assuming in your budget. >> no. >> classroom let me make one other point is it so important you heard the department state that there are some potential savings here they wanted to depends on you wanted to use for

- any admission of fact they can use those savings for additional expenditures. >> might be helpful to hear from the mayor's office how the positions and funding work and why we have this understanding that those are types of expenses appropriate to you and then decide how to work those. >> hi, i'm melissa acting budget director the way the reason there are technically allowed to do this from the board likes to move forward it was budget it was budgeted in a project and they were off positions at the time, we did run out of time to do an in depth analysis our office didn't have time to look at this detail so there will be time to work through the details and the way

it is budgeted in a project there is flexibility not spend it on salary or benefits it is more flexible does that answer your question supervisor yee. >> supervisor tang you're on the roster. >> i understand it is technically allowed i appreciate that and all the questioning is not the questioning the da's program why we want those investigators but in terms of the budget committee had the expenses for you know to get the program start whether it was vehicles or your forensic - this information is at least

this breakdown is new to us right now. >> and i indicated we're happy to have more conversation around those expenses we shared it with the - which we thought to share that that harvey rose office if there is confusion in multiplied directions maybe i can expedite things by saying we're happy to have that conversation having this attrition conversation and whether we can move forward without the 9 percent reduction that would be helpful. >> supervisor yee and i hate to think i'm sharing the sentiment as my colleagues but i'm going in support of budget analyst recommendation to reduce the salary amount and put the three hundred or 55 thousand

plus into a retail use or reserve to have a thorough discussion of those other expenses in the near future 7, 8, 9. >> okay. >> colleagues, any questions or comments for the da staff anyone wish to comment seeing nobody else here public comment is closed. >> supervisor yee do you want to make a motion. >> let me say i think we're supportive of this item that was put in the mayors budget that we approved last year in last name version cast but we need an analysis where the dollars are spent especially we hear we'll save it here but spend it here that's impossible to approve

let's have this conversation going forward and have our budget analyst look at it and have that discussion as a and certainly with the district attorney's office we don't want to see this effective in approving that or from my perspective per supervisor yees and making sure we have an analysis how the unit is operating woorld woeld. >> i appreciate that i wanted to seek an amendment in that recommendation to reserve the attrition savings but release the other one and 22 so we be pursue the highest candidates so for the position purely a staffing conversation not anyone else we've been discussing in the second half.

>> mr. rose. >> yes. mr. chairman, and members of the committee and we had discussions with your office on this that's why we did further analysis on compatible salaries the recommendations we're making that are more than reasonable one and 55 thousand enabling the department for step adjustment consistent with their entire budget that's why we made that recommendation your office raised a good question about compatible salaries we documented both and santa clara and san mateo i want to ask one other thing if you take any of your recommendations consider the request this is not an amendment it will be your request that we bet budgetary data for there to make sure we know the hours and the nuke of cases. >> thank you, mr. rose if i wasn't clear that was a clear

indication but expect it from the district attorney's office. >> regarding the salary the top steps will santa clara and san mateo pay higher in a comparison of the salaries across our department is not exactly a apples to apples experiencing comparison we're looking for the highest paid advertising not people that pay sail scale is a misdemeanor that's the reason for requesting not having the reduction in the salary. >> supervisor tang. >> thank you i definitely hear what you're saying on that point highway would be respond to mr. rose's comments if we hired those folks and the top staff and no room for you know promotion opportunities and so forth so we may having challenged in the

future with trying to retain them unless another salary increase this is something i'm concerned about. >> and something we consider and discuses with potential employees we do that when we hire the laterals that come with 20 years of experience they prefer to receive the higher pay knowing we explain 16 is our top step unless a manager no room for improvement unless cola's and people prefer to have that paycheck we've managed that thus far not people leaving they were at the top step and numerous people in the office 25 and thirty years prosecutors that receive cola increases at this point top steps for more than 10 years and fortunately in this line of work when a person finds

an office committed to they stay condominium entitled district attorney they leave to santa clara and not having the high cost of living and not to commute but factors we face regardless they pay $20,000 more than we do for their advertising we can't compete but the higher level to attract the civil rights and homicide experience that comes to us with a broad range of skills showing they've done higher success of trails and only to pay them commemorate with their experience. >> okay discussion comments motion.

>> through the chair i'm wondering how supervisor yee feels about his original motion any adjustment to that. >> i'm wondering whether or not we could accept the recommendation and change the language what the resermight be if they come back we need to have the proof in terms of the reserve is flexible and other expenses. >> yeah. i think heshtly the reserve will be flexible. >> okay. well, i understand that the district attorney's office and the set of career you're looking for and your i guess retention of employee is different from other departments i know some of the department if

you start them off at top steps we'll face other issues; right? i'm willing to amend make an amendment to supervisor yee's motions to the only change to keep the attrition amount on reserve but allow for the extra one hundred thousand so that the new positions are hired at the top step you've asked for . >> can i ask a quick question in terms of hiring have you start the interview. >> we're not able to do that we've been in a holding pattern people heard to the media and word of mouth we've received an handful of resumes we were unclear when the positions are available and at what level. >> so what's the traditional hiring timeline. >> attorneys we can hire quickly if any of the people

simmered information we're compelling and rows to the level of deference i'd like say two to four weeks of people in the pipeline investigators much longer that depends on if their currently engaged negative impact work and i've not been involved in investigator hiring so i mean what is the average hiring. >> maybe 3 months for an investigator. >> for attorneys and for investigators. >> attorneys what about advertising. >> 2 to 4 weeks. >> that's the afternoon we for us we have gaps in our staffing it is incredibly debilitating to our work the process never stops the assembly line runs we tend to have rolling interviewing so whenever we have a vacancy we

can hire we've had a shortfall we're watering to save up enough money to hire but generally, we move quibble an attorney hiring. >> so part of this we're having and i transition savings with one month do you think you'll have all advertising hired in one month. >> no, that's the dmfks conversation we had i guess that is happening two quickly. >> the savings with with only months of savings. >> i didn't object. >> i know is that two months in terms of what should we be thinking those people will come on board if so one month we only takes put-down some on reserve but hire them in two months again need to have adequate information. >> i think chair will be

rolling as soon as we have qualified people i don't expect 16 or 14 people hired in one month not realistic we've not posted the position and do the kind of broad safe haven but expect we're hire as many before the end of the year that will go in stages as qualified people come in we're make offers. >> understand what i'm saying we're at the end of the september hopefully by the end of the year. >> that's 3 months. >> every other month is 200 and 50 - $33,000. >> for all 14; right? >> so from the average is two months that's do you believe that. >> i'm not sure of the