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to the san francisco planning commission regular hearing forgive thursday, september 29, disruptions of any kind. proceedings. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. those folks that are standing need to find a seat can't stand in front of of the doorway if you can't find a seat i'll call to accommodate for an overflow
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room i'd like to call roll at this time. commissioner president fong commissioner vice president richards commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar and commissioner moore. >> we do expect commissioner johnson to arrive shortly commissioners, the first item on your agenda items proposed for continuance item 1 24th street avenue conditional use authorization is proposed until october 6, 2016, item 2 at polk street conditional use authorization is proposed for continuance october 6, 2016, and items 3 ab 20th street is proposed for continuance until december 8th and further
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commissioners under our consent calendar we received a request from the project sponsor to continue item 4 for case van ness avenue conditional use authorization if you want to accommodate that request we'll fit it on october 21st schedule. >> thank you any public comment? items proposed for continuance okay comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards. >> move to approve to the dates specified. >> commissioner moore. >> i forgot any words. >> second. >> second. >> very good commissioners to continue all items as proposed commissioner hillis commissioner koppel compare commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and
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places. >> as acting da i'll continue item 3 b to the dates specified. >> expirations that places us on your may be acted upon by a single roll call vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing. item 5 case eddy street conditional use authorization, item 6 at san jose condominium conversion substitution and cashing anymore conditional use authorization planned unit
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development there are no speaker cards. >> any public comment on the items on the consent calendar okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. >> commissioner moore. >> move to approve items 5, 6 and 7 as noted. >> thank you. >> commissioners on that motion to approve matters under our consent calendar commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us under commission matters for item 8 consideration of adoption of draft minutes for september 16th commissioner moore submitted some non-substantive sort of minor tweaks to her comment they will be incorporated if you so approve. >> thank you any public comment on the draft minutes
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public comment is closed. commissioner vice president richards. >> move to approve second. >> thank you, commissioners on that motion to adopt the minutes for september 8th commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places you on tome 9 commissioners questions or comments. >> okay. it appears no comments thank you. >> very good commissioners that might be a first that places us under drourment. >> good afternoon, commissioners i don't have anything new to report either i'll pass. >> item 11 event of the historic preservation commission no historic preservation commission hearing
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good afternoon aaron starr, manager, legislative affairs. for the planning department at that land use committee the committee heard an ordinance to amend the zoning and height and bulk indict for fulsome changing from the designation with the height and bulk of 50 to your own mixed use this was harder on july 28th with a 5 to zero vote the commission recommended that the board adopt the proposed ordinance as a transportation committee hearing only a few brief commenters in support of ordinance and moved to the full board with a positive recommendation at the full board this week the amendments to the housing balance sponsored by supervisor kim passed its first reading and the midtown was considered by the full board the board hearing supervisor yee moved to remove the amendment
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adam by supervisor wiener and land use committee that subjected the midtown to the accessary dwelling program supervisor campos seconded the amendment the board voted to pass the amendment with supervisor wiener the only dissenting vote no introductions this week that concludes my report. thanks. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioners on behalf of the zoning administrator the board of appeals met last night with only item of interest the appeal of unoccupied buildings permit for 14 pier 80 thirty, with the dr that hearing commission took the dr and added a restriction for a single-family dwelling to the dr for the potential to use the ground floor it was an appeal by the neighbor if maintained the layout of the appeal the board approved the permit at the
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planning commission commissioners under general public comment not to exceed 15 minutes minutes at this time, members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission except agenda items. with respect to agenda items, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. i have no speaker cards. >> >> any general public comment? wow. >> okay. thank you. >> very good commissioners that places us under our regular calendar for item 12 the upper market street planning code and zoning map amendment. >> you guys are moving really fast good afternoon, commissioners aaron starr, manager, legislative affairs. the the item before you is a proposed ordinance probation officer amends the zoning map for the deletion of the commercial district and reclarify the castro street and
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misrepresenting from upper market in c district to the upper market commercial transit district this ordinance is a clean piece of legislation in 2013 that commission voted to extend the nct from nov to castro the two tell us were left out of the ordinance we were within 5 hundred feet of supervisors residence those policies prohibit the supervisors from sponsoring ordinance that impact the property the vote the planning commission recommended that those two parcels are rezoned to the nct, however, there were not included isn't final ordinance because a separate notice is required to rezone them the two main difference are fir nct don't have density limits that are determined by lot area a dwelling unit density units of one per 4 hundred square feet
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the density in the nct by how large the building the be height and bulk and other exposures and open space speaks waldo called formed based density and two the nct don't have minimum parking requirement the upper market nnth district one parking space for every dwelling unit and the nct didn't allow a half a space and .75 so for every dwelling unit with conditional use authorization did tell the court be height and bulk limitations rear yard requirement and maximum non-residential and hours of operation and floor ratios will not be alternated by the ordinance and eligible for the height for ground floor commercial as a standard in the nct sdrints the allowable commercial use will remain the same after publication of the staff report with the help felt
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neighborhood association found a fix of those i have those jonas if you wouldn't mind psa them out basically, it will subject the proposed zoned nct to the market octavia planned area development impact fees and the affordable housing fees so it in nodding the board passed an ordinance sponsored that subjected those parcels to the market street impact fees, however, with the 2003 rezoning that was not updated to reflect the rezoning of those property the two property are zoned today are subject to the market octavia impact fees but not the other properties on the block the texts will correct this in the upper market nct to the market octavia impact fees even if their outside of the market octavia planned area so staff new recommendation for approval with modifications and
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i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> public first have a comment. >> any public comment on this item? not seeing any, commissioner moore. >> this was discussed along a long time ago i'm very secretary glad you amended 2 you read into the record i'm in full support at a time the form basis was very, very deliberately made and move to approve with modifications. >> second. >> thank you, commissioners there is a motion that has been seconded to do you want a recommendation for approval with the amendment read into the record by staff on that motion commissioner hillis commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong
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so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us on item 13 for case amusement in the mixed use planning code amendments. >> you're moving faster supervisor kim's office wanted to be here for this item and not here yet. >> so i'll go over my presentation good afternoon the item before you is a planning code amendment that allows the amusement in the south of market in the mixed use district this ordinance is proposed a bar arcadia named coin game room is seeking to allocating on forest street for the light industrial the regulations will not allow the arcadia to open as a use it prohibited in the zoning and let
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april continue thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm april from supervisor kim's office and here to speak about this piece of legislation and ask for your support with some modifications we were approached by business that was interested in being locked in our district is arcade games in 1992 the police code prohibited this in san francisco and our current zoning and allow the arcade not permitted in some districts he previously amendments to the planning code that allows the arcade i believe in the upper market and the hate street commercial district and this legislation before you will
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allow arcade games in particular district and in this case the legislation was introduced in the south of market and had in the broader eastern neighborhoods but i have received calls from some community members in the south of market that were concerned about the broad change and a desire to have more community process as it relate to oar can do games allowed in the south of market and i imagine the eastern neighborhoods as a hole i presented and small business commission therapy in support of this legislation is it so really our attempt to support small businesses or a small business and also address something i think that has been a hold over from times past but i definitely want to expect
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that each neighborhood has a community process and this definition should be changed if desired ti at a citywide level perhaps the goals 7 and 8 reorganization a full discussion about this but as a relatives to this particular business and that particular location what i suggest as an amendment to limit this permitted use in service light industrial that will allow the business that is interested in moving forward it's appropriate, it's currently an entertainment a night life use and a precedent with the western soma present south of harrison and that falls south of harrison arcade use associated with a bar so that's what i would suggest
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as a way to move forward that supports the businesses that is interested in the change and also replacements the community process and desire to have more input open that which was. >> thank you. we may have questions mr. starr do you want to conclude. >> yeah. i'll conclude the rest of my presentation was an staffs recommendation given the narrowing scope of the ordinance i'll say this department recommend approval as amended thank you. >> thank you. >> opening it up for public comme comment. >> good afternoon henry on the south of market business association this matter come up before this commission and approved amazing the younger
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generation in the games and the games are popular as the aide to jane kim mentioned the change of the legislation and the zoning in the area to permit this but again considering we had not heard of anyone is against it i got a call from the aid a while back she would up to date make it for the n l ii love had it we support that and move forward it is a venue that is in operation for agree a long time about restaurants and about restaurant and the arcade games what happened you can only have 10 or less machines that will change to have as many as you want they're small times i'd like if you support this legislation. >> okay. thank you.
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>> good afternoon, commissioners my name is jeffrey the past chair the south beach citizens advisory may be one of i i doubt any of you were on the committee when sue - i worked for 10 years on the eastern neighborhood of my countless hours and thousand of meetings we carve outed this with a broad brush you'll allow in the south of market with absolutely no community input whatsoever south park we'll fight in legislation tooth and nail it you want to know what that means ask larry bear the vice president of the giant how much it cost him to build his ball park they tried to do the same thing without
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community input you guys owe to us a resident and stakeholder and business owners to open this up to community involvement brother you pass it a lot along we can work you, you. >> cac was one of the most pro-active cacs in the city lou gehrig's disease for businesses appropriating located this is not the kind of legislation that had been blind-sided an affront to every resident in san francisco that has within through planning in the last 20 years i suggest what you do i take this off our calendar today and call for community hearing we have the south beach rincon and director rahaim you know that i'm completely blown away that is ram rotted down our
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throat i ask for a continuance thank you. >> i'm one the own and operate to start of i'm a little bit shocked to hear the gentleman before me with all due respect from the entertainment commission we've had things in our doors part of neighborhood i'd like to hear from him that we're working with the neighborhood as well much like an conversation moving forward not necessarily on the back docket with that said, i want to share some thoughts on the proposal of arcade you know we are more is a see a restaurant bar we are using the arcade as an accessory to our use and i
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want to go over the evolution is it so not a common word but a trendy thing across the city across the country so arcades we remember the renewed interest has to do with with in a staflg - that kind of things that make it market for generations your generational gap and we looked at the south of market is the reason to be looked at how it is becoming the kind of entertainment the airport and there's a bowling alley and
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ping-pong bar in the neighborhood we offer is entertainment that is a lot more affordable you're going to certain places and spending $0.60 of combined entertainment and with that said, there's almost a necessity in the neighborhood because of the generation wide that the south of market has and home to some of the biggest companies in america electronic arts and others i believe that's it sony we nevertheless, feel we fit the neighborhood and any concerns we are open to hearing that we're really not ram rhodes the issue i disagree and thank you for your time. >> thank you >> next speaker,
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please. >> good afternoon, commissioners i worked in arcades for 3 years within that time i witnessed arcades bring a positive vibe in a sense of belonging community to an establishment a place where neighborhood businesses come after work and grab something to eat and enjoy themselves people discuss business and meet new friend a place anyone can be themselves and have a great time it is positive for everything i've seen in the neighborhoods i've worked in i feel on the game room in the corridor will brighten the plain clothes with a dynamic of entertainment a necessity as a subway with the trolley to mission bay area and
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thank you for your time. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners thanks for taking the time i'm joseph and i'm the head of arcade operations for coin up gave himer a little bit about me i grew up in san francisco born and raised third-generation was all around the development of the ball park i worked for a major plumbing company in san francisco at the time and saw growing up who it was about what everything was going on in the downtown in the soma, etc. one thing i take from myself of myself is the diversity going to grammar school and going to high school
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that was one thing that san francisco always spoke to me was the different cultures different you know ideas and the arcade scene for me is really the basis of bringing multiple generations together in our sacramento location one thing i see day to day i will see customers that are say middle-aged and placing a game and next to them 20 somethings they're a playing pinball for t the same time i see the conversations between the generations of people that's the diversity i see us bringing to gave himer in the soma district that is really a positive
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influence what we bring to the area so thank you for your time. >> hi commissioners my name is ken one of the 4 owners that own the building that coin up 19is going on into i other people a small business owner and have a stake in four rauntsd in san francisco and one in oakland i'll say this from a landlords perspective we interviewed a lot of tenants and we wereing i intrigued they presented an interesting business plan we visited a bunch a food operations that wanted to do deliveries in the city backed by capita lifts but we poke to the
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we were impressed with the arcade restaurant bar that plays out in the context of our neighborhood but talking to people that been to the location in san diego and out in sacramento we were impressed how well, they computed their business and the types of investors to have their businesses in san francisco this in conjunction with any general knowledge how business is conducted in the city. >> what appeals to certain neighborhood was very much in support of approving how o how these guys open up their business and looking at their construction as they've been you know rolling out things in the past couple of months impressed with the quality of detail and the profit to the space i'm very much in support of these guys and hope you guys are too.
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>> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon my name is a peter i'm the assistant general manager of coin up sacramento through my time being there i've seen first hand how our concept is a designation downtown on cat street not gentrified we're bringing people to us who are more than likely not becoming downtown we're getting state capital workers, local business employees with the arena coming in downtown we're at the forefront of bringing all that new people can new money downtown one of my favorite things about coin up likely said misrepresent generational people are 75 and
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people 21 everything about coin up is amazing one of my favorite places when i'm at work not at work we worked in contact with the downtown partnering and the sacramento police department we've tried to make downtown a safer place a know our limit program where the police come in and talk to people having a couple of drinks to see where they're at yeah. i hope you guys approve coin opt san francisco thank you very much. >> hi commissioners i'm a local binder in san francisco for 10 years from the sacramento area how i got involved i was back home and - went down to
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the coin opted opt and had a blast and it is amazing how to say changing everything and bringing people downtown to the area kind of the same thing whether the bartender i worked additionally we went to the giant games and hang out after we were walking home not the nicest of areas and it will be a great asset to the city and bring in a lot of revenue and people i've seen businessmen in sacramento playing street games with a construction worker and seeing how everybody gets along the vibe inside of bar people are not sitting at a bar but walking around and meeting people and it is just a
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different vibe it is awesome i hope you approve this. >> good afternoon. my name is she low parrot of opening staff in coin opt sxooment i noticed how much so forthtion of the community we need to create community and part of my personal experience of being a queer and growing up a lack of social spaces to have people engage in my community is placard by substance abuse but adults can come together and gave me sober there is no pressure to drink no pressure to
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do things that young 20 something years old do it is a way to interact with each other this spot will be incredibly an important space especially in the area and provide a physical space for people to build community it is a place where people flourish and take care of themselves and provide an alternative space we don't necessarily have i'm excited to have the community to have a stronger community and this space will a great place for that thank you. >> thank you. >> my name is grazie came here to speak i live on the east bay this is a nice place for people
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to come over and experience something in the city and have somewhere to go to doesn't put pressure but introduces you to a new community i never came in 9 fillmore but now i've been introduced to marlow and other places in the community and people in the community and i think that will be a really good benefit to have to have a place in that area thank you. >> hi there my name is staffing on a resident of san francisco i used to live in san diego and know the owners of coin opt coin up of opt arcade will be a place where people in braurgsdz come
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together in sloorld and there's a class in san francisco and that place can mend that divide one of the purposes in arcade to bring people together for joy and that creates a higher vibration and people operating on a higher vibration this will create a happier san francisco thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is pauline i've been in the industry for quite a while one of the biggest things we bartenders provide you with a wonderful experience and have found in that experience in coin opt we get to open it we'll bring a lot of communities together and destress and get
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you, your farther drink and play whatever game you like to do that's wonderful i hope you guys approve it thank you for your time. >> okay is there any additional public comment? >> okay not seeing any, public comment is closed. and opening that to commissioners, if i may start april thank you for coming and sort of breaking and entering break it is down to specific locates he personally ran an arcade at fisherman's wharf and had control of '75 games knew how to fix them and unjam coin slots and pack man and frond but the point is i agree with some of the speakers that that brings people together and you can be playing or against maybe an
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enemy or acre enemy but for that moment brought enjoyment to folks a good thing i'll be supportive of the change to approve this specifically for this location to the opposition i agree this shunt shouldn't be approved to the district this is not what we're intending but this participate operation i think is fine commissioner moore. >> i he'll appreciate you're talking about your past i was asking you to - i grew up. >> i'll community-based there hopefully. >> i grew up watching other people being very funny about using those machines it is a great story in the technical 21st century things are coming back and offering something else i'm interested in reading the
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description about the recurrent and i think site specific consideration that is the project mentions by the supervisor i will consider it i will agree with you that's where i think the supporters are not aware what is in front of the commission is the support for your site specific approval wrapped up in a much, much broader form of legislative amendments that effect people that have not been asked it is in that particular area particularly this commission and the neighbors that will be engaged are looking at rewriting of article 7 and 8 the redefinition of particular uses and how we're starting to use and streamline our code to agree with the eloquent summary of commissioner president fong i'll support this with a much
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narrower and site purpose for 508, fourth street but that's as far as i support it so the supervisors recommendations will guide any recommendation for the proposal. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess a question for mr. starr can we go ahead and narrow this to this parcel. >> uh-huh. >> no, no not just the parcel but the item. >> how many parcels will the district cover. >> that's the broader brush i'm hearing. >> i don't know commissioner i don't think that is a lapsing district anymore. >> okay i guess the gentleman from south park rincon can you come up. >> so if we narrowed it to the
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s l i how about that. >> i'm troubled by the s l i and the central soma bryant street is s l i zoned i believe that bryant street are bodies s l i zoned it is troubling if you use that as your basis i'll not be opposed to the location did location 19is appropriate for the proposed arcade but if you use that broad-brush and say this is an approved use without cu that makes it troubling if you understood - but make it a s l i and in an inappropriate location we can participate best to have that interaction with the neighborhoods you get the
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input from the people and the businesses people that are directly impacted known is against entertainment we have a 42 thousand entertainment the ball park in the nation but that of those because we finally got the giant to concede and able to work with them in that manner so - >> okay. a question for the city attorney if we tried to narrow it beyond the s l i zoning to just a parcel how about. >> deputy city attorney mirena burns. the question so i understand that rather than have this be a zoning map amendment for the - and the s l i. >> you would make to this
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particular parcel. >> yeah. and in the public process to engage with the public and expand beyond the parcel to the s l i and other zoning districts. >> i'm sorry. >> to have the department to have a public process to expand beyond this parcel to the s l i when engaged in the be neighborhood. >> if i can interject with the conditional use authorization to allow more thorough review of those projects 0 sethey come up from the future to do just a project specific to allow this use you'd need an sud this is a map amendment you couldn't do that. >> i'll support rezoning with the cu with the future projects.
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>> commissioner moore. >> i'd like to see a border definition i'd like here to look at the second look the s l i and the western edition task force that spent decades on carefully working without and the land use that few of us understand the great deferred i don't want us to be too broad but i believe i'd like the supervisor to listen to what we're saying and follow-up individual decisions but leave it basically with a focus on the property in question and it will be someone expertise to do it in a manner that is expedite and supportive of a small business and in principle we're supportive that's the use on that side
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being an arcade. >> okay commissioner hillis. >> so i want to clarify we're recommending you know making recommendations to the board who ultimately have to make this change to the code i'm a little bit - certainly those - i mean those ordinances were put in place place in arcade we don't have whatever issues there were spur putting the limited in and i'm hesitant to say you have to come back for an arcade with a cu when no really anything that troubles me about an arcade i suggest we recommend approval as april pointed out with the modifications and s l i but
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encourage the board to limit this further or look at the cu and go out and talk with the impacted neighbors so we may not be thinking of all them that's all i move to recommend approval as proposed by supervisor kim's office but encourage them to consider a further limits to geogratefully or by the zoning code or in the future. >> second. >> commissioner johnson. >> i seconded the motion but highlight commissioner hillis we had that hearing being the arcades in another district the hate and spent a lot of time about the police code and how to be for amazement arcade uses like this i think that one was
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slightly different on the second story an additional element but the same i read this case i don't see the policy i understand there was a lot of - work on the eastern neighborhoods but in terms of the policy reasons to say additional scrutiny on that type of project i'm not seeing it i'll second the motion to encourage the board to see if we have blind spots but not in favor by this - so with that said the only other thing in the question maybe the city attorney if this legislation were passed with a cu may be added as the type of approval later on does that mean that has to come for that approval. >> deputy city attorney mirena burns.
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yeah, you don't have this specific project only the planning code from the legislation requires a conditional use authorization in order to do this type of use you'll see that application in front of you with future arcade. >> right now the legislation is permitted so they'll go through to get a building permit again, i second the motion but strongly encourage from the supervisors want a cu to look at that and make sure the scrutiny is here i don't see it maybe there are blind spots. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i really want to support this legislation, however, i agree with commissioner moore i'd like to support it if this business for all the reasons that everybody said, however, i don't know how many parcels are covered from the s l ii heard
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this side of bryant tan deposit and that side of bryant tan daughter-in-law i'll vote no. >> i want to ask the supervisors representative to perhaps ask you please answer a question for me i've very much perceptive the author back and forth the commission and very much interested to see the last points by commissioner hillis and commissioner johnson being a guide double we're addressing the concerns for the supervisors that the people are looking at land use. >> i appreciate you all trying to balance the neighborhood process and also support for business and we're also trying to balance this too so i think what i would ask is to narrow the geographic area for
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permitting arcade to s l i and zoning in particular is going through its own process because s l i is part of the central soma plan only and not beyond that there will be an additional process for s l i zoning i've taken sxhifksz recommendation around the cu but will appreciate the ability for me to talk with the neighbors and the business to talk about what the best way to move forward on whatever to apply a cu in this case but would ask that we have time to kind of work that through so basically i'll asking for you to support this legislation to permit arcade in s ii and have that conversations with the neighbors and
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businesses. >> okay. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> one point i'd like to make in the western selma a bar called the organizational. >> i can't hear you. >> a western barn called the echo electronic device more s l i than you think i'll hearing a no. >> oh, sally s a l i. >> supervisor continues to the neighborhood outreach i can support this great. >> okay jonas. >> commissioner moore sorry. >> wouldn't the motion be there is an intent because what is in front of us. >> it is just a recommendation. >> just a recommendation thank
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you for commissioner hillis. >> okay. thank you. >> very good commissioners there is a motion that has been seconded to adopt a recommendations for approval of this legislation as it has been amended by the supervisors office restricting the s l i zoning. >> commissioner hillis. >> commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero commissioners that places us on item 14 cap street conditional use authorization. >> okay one moment. >> okay. >> thank you. >> good afternoon planning commission chris planning department staff and welcome the two commissioners the item before you a continual use authorization for the proposed demolition of an existing
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single-family dwelling with detached building to the rear and the construction of a new 4 story 78 hundred square feet residential with 4 dwelling units pursuant to the planning code section an application for a permit that has a loss of one or more units for a cu application and shall be subject to that authorization on the west side of cap street between 24th street on a 25 wide lot the parcel is central locate within the block and currently contains two vacant eagle one single-family home and the rear building a two-story accessory building it is locate within the mission neighborhood and the block is composed of single and
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misrepresent family residential building with three or 4 story street wall and two churches on the block one in immediately adjacent to 9 site and on cap street the the subject property is also well-served by transit the bart station a block away in the neighborhood served by muni bus lines the proposed 40 foot tall structure will provide 4 dwelling units with 3 seriousy off-street parking and had class 1 bike parking spaces the proposed mixed use is two, two bedroom and 3, three bedrooms with private decks and a shared roof deck all over it is contemporary in design and includes horizontal wood siding and a natural limestone base
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with regards to the public comment no public comment to date and i'll go through 9 important characteristics first, the project is consistent with the zoning district no density limit rather the density is regulated by the property development standards and the residential design guidelines this district is intended to accommodate a greater density whereas the current lot has a single single-family dwelling four unit with 14 hundred square feet and two, three bedroom and 2, three bedrooms compatible with the neighborhood and contribute to the mid block open space and 40 no tenants are are displaced as a result before i clouk the presentation we want to read into the record a minor
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slight revisions on page 5 condition item section 7 i'll hand out now. >> this is the findings that addresses where the project removed the units the handful is passed out now the findings currently reads no rent-controlled units will be removed and not subject to the arbitration the finding shall read the single-family dwellings are vacant and the platt cannot define it is to the arbitration ordinance the adapt department can confirm no tenants are living in the dwelling that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions. >> thank you project sponsor please. >> hi, i'm speaking on behalf
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of the project sponsor who is stuck in traffic i come to speech in support my name is a john strickland i own the property next door and meeting met numerous times i asked him to shave back his building he did so but i'm not the sponsor only he's in the car i guess he called me. >> all right. any other speakers i'm sorry opening up for public comment i have one card felix flores. >> felix flores okay. >> good afternoon. my name is felix flolz going to speak in behalf of the church, i used to be is that 856 and 854 cap street
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that 854 is the backhouse of church i would like you to have a consideration of that property that belongs to our church and all the church in the neighborhood the president to demolish you know but want to start by the 854 property but that's the half of the church. >> that's all. >> okay. thank you. >> is there any additional public comment? >> open this item. >> not seeing any, public comment is closed. and commissioner vice president richards. >> i guess here we find
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ourselves not really completely understanding where our dwelling unit or dwelling units we see a shed in the back up the street from me a project that was submitted inside that a dwelling unit and the project went to the braid that was appealed overturning our decision in a single-family home there was a - i find it hard to believe that nobody has done a visible inspection of the property without the rent board telling me whether it is a - i think this commission will do us a favor to ask the rent board to ask whether or not the dwelling units are rent-controlled we shouldn't be playing the victim
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card we need more information. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you to sxhifksz comment and globally i agree with you but we have seen the rent board come to the planning commission and try to explain their process and it is so convolute i don't know how they do it is in a straightforward thing to determine whether or not something is rent-controlled it is easier whether which there are tenant to look at some sort of history with that said, lo although i'm frustrated not having the answer he weigh that against the projects to be considered here and the other policy objectives that may help us i think having 4 unit rather than one there may be some discussions go about it's relationship to the church next door and enough of a policy consideration to not holed up
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the project to have that answer especially i don't know if we continued or pushed the rent board to provide us more information we'll get anything clarifying. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i i guess i'll ask staff and maybe the director what happened on the san bruno we were overturned 11 zero what information came out we didn't see i'd like to understand that are we facing the same thing here could we be. >> so commission based on my understanding there was confusion about the unauthorized dwelling unit so is relative to the approval that was provided the commission so there was kind of a back and forth on whether or not the unit which was separated by or the area was separated by a wall and a gap between what we consider a
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structure or 2 structure and whether or not that was occupying a separate structure as opposed to a continuous structure. >> seems like sheds are not what their labeled if you were up to me a person was living there it was like the shed got demolished so without a visible inspection i'll zero on this yeah, we'll get 4 unit and 14 hundred a square foot a starter home so i can't support this absolutely not. >> commissioner hillis. >> one of the how did will - i don't think we're saving an affordable home we have a look at this rent control gentrification which we talk
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about a lot so i think there are two ways to go seems by looking at the pictures and the google maps this is a single-family home we asking can ask the staff to look at this and determine there is not a home in the back i don't know from the project sponsor. >> didn't look like the project sponsor is here. >> and go get an opinion from the rent board this is a single-family home and not subject to rent control. >> they're able to seek that if we want to. >> i posed the same question to the project sponsor in the process and confirmed in writing this is entirely vacant with no tenant and reinforced by the plan and from the building department. >> i guess to commissioner vice president richards someone could put a unit in the back in the by permit i don't care if it
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makes it rent control but i think the property owner can go to the rent board and see 24 the not subject to rent control. >> director ram. >> sorry commissioners, i wanted to remind you relate to the findings the rent control is only one of the criteria but not something you have to meet specifically a consideration relative to the longer list of criteria that we examined under residential demolition so not a yes or no question basically it is one of the many factors have you to consider and maybe in the applications so - >> okay commissioner moore. >> the responsibility of having proper demolition o information weighs heavy on us every week people telling us we're acting on insufficient information not to get into the
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information about the demolition career we have the right to get someone to go to the site inside that is and look at it whether that has been i'd like as a living and correct your observation there are unusual places that are opted out from garages to others i think enough evidence we need clear support from the department to encourage us in a timely manner when it comes to us have the right to make the right decisions in support or in opposition that's not been done today and commissioner moore. >> i'm sorry. >> commissioner melgar. >> go ahead so i release that are several criteria we should be looking at i support maximizing the density of this particular parcel i
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think you know in the neighborhood that spell needs housing i support that but it is he heart of you know neighborhood that is near and dear to my heart and whether or not it is occupied that's important i e-mailed this piper didn't give me a lot of confidence having set up a disk for a few years the issue of whether a little was opted out is not straightforward it means we looked at utility bills and once we do it i feel confident i think all the other things that project brings are good things i'll support it but folks living there i don't want to make things worse.
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>> commissioner johnson. >> okay so i think i'm not going to make this motion i don't ago with that people need more time to go back all over the place get more information i'll say two things the first, we think to get more perspective 50 years from now those 3 unit will be hopefully, some form of rent control versus the one house and shed that may or may not be occupiable space that is right there right now that's right the perspective i try to have 50 years 3, two or three bedroom unit i think 4 that will be rent control or older housing stock i think the other thing i building in general so for those sort of things we need to not try to boil the ocean in terms of having our objective standards
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what we're consider the proper amount of information to support those projects we've seen he can name two or three that are seared in any memory and outside the approximately may not be as a high priority a big deal we dug and dug and dug none seems to be able to be confident we had enough information particularly whether or not a unit is occupied and whether or not it should, rent stabilize fine if people want to go back with specific information to make people comfortable but not an objective based on of evidence xyz we know one thing is on one side of line or the other we had those fwooment we ask people to stand isn't doorway and wait for someone to come home to an those cases i don't know if it is
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where we need to be as a planning commission. >> commissioner moore. >> i recall the department very constructively working with us in questionable situations i'll say exclusively no disappointment of myself sitting and making informed decisions i can rattle off a couple of addresses but 4 or 5 or 6 was indeed brought forwarded not because of departments short coming but taking a look all we're asking for taking into account a look the gentrification of the site has 124i9s - it will be discussed in a supportive way i move to approve - to continue the projectile the missing information is substantiated and, of course, i'll ask that the issue about mechanical
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rooftop equipment further examined by the department no section into the package that shows you what that means. >> second. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> i'm not against gentrification by the way, it will not be rent-controlled it can't be retired after 1995 so 50 years will be different this is where the most displacement in the city in their 24th street and the quatro for no affordable housing this is for something working with new construction and displace people in the neighborhood not to look at the local businesses they want to shop at this story repeats over and over should this house stand
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i don't know it might be better off as four units but not enough information given the information i ask this commission to please send a letter to the rent board telling them of our struggle and help us understand better, more information we have a more comfortable level of information. >> commissioners to respond to a couple of points part of issue we haveness a respondent basically the rent board can't defyly state if there's a rent-controlled or make a determination or not so 411 unless the side of a tenant to
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confirm what the rent board is seeking in terms of that so - >> lastly at the board of supervisors the rent board said on tape i assume every unit is rent-controlled unless proven no otherwise proven we ask that be our guidance from, no on how much simpler they would assume this is rent-controlled. >> commissioner johnson that's my point i feel we have established the level of evidence that will make us feel comfortable not clear to the tenant and oats rent board has limited tools to give us the facts and commissioner vice president richards you made my point if we assume something that rent-controlled units unless proven otherwise that is entered into any calculation of
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which a unit rent-controlled is one i'm saying there are other policy considerations for this project before us and other discussions to be had about the relationship to the building next to it aesthetics and r5069 equipment and other things to discuss i believe that delaying this project for more information that is about things that are unclear if we can't prove something it can t take 2 as a truth why not discuss that - the other merits of project. >> commissioner hillis. >> i mean, i'm supportive of a continuance to get more information especially given what the board did a couple weeks ago as a rule about rent control are not as clear as we think and people add unit prior to 1979 and after 1979 if f
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there were a single-family home and you illegally added a shed didn't make it rent-controlled you can petition a rent board and get it is as is a single-family home not subject to rent control so sunk it is a complicated not very clear area and you add an aunt after 1979 into a single-family home you may be able to get the unit not rent control he suggest we continue to look at this for two weeks and have staff to look at evidence of a second unit and ask the rent board for clarification but clearly agree single-family home i think that is definitive it is not. >> at issue the department can request information from the rent board but has to come from the applicant so the departments is limited in terms of its
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powers it has to be part of submission and commissioner johnson. >> so i think i want to make that time limit before i is that note trying to get into a back and forth i like working with you. >> me, too me, too. >> rent control as a policy and sort of legislative matter happened in 1979 if the units were under and another up to this time in the future maybe coming we looking at rent control from the units are there you have something to work with with that said, i'd like to take a look at our future calendar i'll be a team player make a motion for a continuance. >> we have one. >> oh, was 2 seconded and october 13th.
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>> october 13th? >> shall i call the question? >> yeah. so - commissioner, i want to get clear direction on what staff needs to move forward with in terms of providing additional information to the commission i've heard a site visit if there are any evidence after a site dwelling unit and certainly advise the applicant keeping in mind if there's a respondent on the other end the rent board might not give back any type of resolution. >> from the project sponsor comes before us and provides that information as part of the project wouldn't that be of benefit. >> the issue that the rent board might not give them angle affirmative unless a tenant or someone on the side to confirm
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research one way or another the rent board - >> i hope i want the rebld here this the quadrant a form based two unit one was built two r before 1979 it was rent-controlled. >> maybe have the rent board here maybe the rent board to have the changes. >> commissioner hillis. >> i mean more me all indications point this is a single-family residences if our code not zoned but in the database and looks like a single-family residence i'll ask the department to inspect that to make sure this is not evidence of a second case we can handle that single-family residence is clear in the rebld they're not subject to rent control i'll be comfortable with that but evidence of a
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single-family residence we want to take to the next step to ask the rent board for a determination on what - >> commissioner moore. >> and want to remind you of my request for additional information on the design relative to a crossing cross section that is clearly indicated on drawings 8.2 what the equipment looks like in the section. >> commissioner to continue this matter until october 13th. >> commissioner hillis. >> commissioner johnson. >> commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong no. >> so moved, commissioners,. that motion passes 6 to one with commissioner president fong voting against. >> members of the public you may have come in after the
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original amazement for those of you can't find a seat we have one remaining item you all are here for if you want to occupy those chairs you can go ahead we have only one more staff person coming out to make their presentation i'll save one seat for her i take that back more than one you guys i apologize we'll need 3 seats for staff if you can't find a seat we have accommodated a overflow room if you could let the people outside know the south light court on the first year is convert into an overflow room you'll be able to see and hear the procedures in this room when your name is called if you're interested to submit our public testimony make our way into this room to submit our public testimony okay. but if you can't find a seat you'll
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not be allowed to stay in this room. >> jonas the commission will go ahead and take a short break. >> okay. very good very >> okay good afternoon and welcome back to the san francisco planning commission regular hearing for thursday, september 29, 2016, i'm reminded members of the public that any kind. proceedings. and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. also always your part of project sponsor team those of you standing and can't find a seat
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make your way to the light court when our name is called make your way back up to the roomed to make a public testimony unless you don't have a seat and not part of project sponsor team you'll have to exit the room. >> there is an oerment room on the set light court on the first floor you'll watch and hear those procedures great, thank you the commission chair has determined the project sponsor will receive a 10 minute presentation and the public comment will be limited to two minutes per person. >> good afternoon, commissioners nancy department
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staff also other colleagues that before i begin i've described hard copies of the categorical exemption and the material and sent e-mails to the commission and documents for review full name is a conditional use authorization request to establish institutional school use on cotter street it is an irregular shaped zoned rh1 in a height and bulk district located in the outer mission within an area of residential two or three single-family dwelling 31 thousand generate is a shared between the tenant of the garden and project sponsor the project sponsor gotten bridges school owns the property and will change the use the proposed institution will a
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be a second story with 41 bike parking spaces for loading and unloading i want to clarify for the record that the incorrect figures for open space and onsite the correct space is 31 thousand square feet plus not 33 thousand square feet and includes areas for living roof and walls and retention measures and rear calls open space for 20 students and full area part time staff and operations from 8:30 to 3:40 p.m. a summer program is proposed with operational between 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. to improve the circulation for a pickup and drop off with a
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school bus and traffic kaimg measures and modes of transportation to and from the school in 2010, the planning department opened a case while changes to the urban agriculture it became 234ri789d even if zoning district without entitlement in 2012, the neighborhood was established on cotter street for change of use one of the goals of inner ordinance to develop property owners to allow temporary agricultural on properties waiting developments such changes doesn't preclude other than agricultural from being established since publication of case report the department has public communication in support
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for beneficial use and beautiful and careful project design and others opposition with pollution and stormwater concerns the department supports the project finding the school use necessary and desirable with the neighborhood and represents approval with conditions for the following reasons the project does not seek modifications from standards, the project is consistent with obtains and policies of the general plan it has an educational plan and encourages alternative means of transportation and improves the environment it provides neighborhood educational use for the support of families in san francisco that concludes my presentation. i'm available to answer any questions and as are the environmental planners.
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>> the project sponsor please. we have a power point. >> okay. >> to the computer. >> nooimentz a jesse one of the founders of the school and the administration sdriks director gotten is the only outside school children spends 40 percent of their days on cotter street outside and it include raising children to have compassion empathy through experience or learning and story telling and artistic - we have never turned away a family for the lack of funds we're a neighborhood and will most of families live one $20 million and 2350i percent within walking distance of the site on cotter
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street founded in the mission district where the preschool is located and purchased coter street currently we have 67 grade school and gradually grow we're currently operating auto outing of the dimension height out of preschool and in the mission district and using the outside farm and san francisco parks and running out of space next year in terms of our community outreach we've had over a dozen meeting with the terrace and the excelsior improvement associations pleasing malia cohen's and joining the collaborative to listen and share information about the growth of our conditional and held that community meetings inviting the 5 had had feet radius in the excelsior to learn about our projects we've had
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several months of door to door can having in the excelsior district are we've sent 16 letters to residents either in the three hundred foot radius and met with supervisors in the past 3 years. >> in all of this neighborhood communication we've originally presented a completely different sightly planner we changed arithmetic and redesigned the campus now 74 percent of land is open space for use of farm and play, we've front yard the stormwater management including green roof and buyer planters and per marble pavers and added a circle to stop the drop off - we've added escaping to eliminate noise disruption
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we've had nearly. >> thousand letters of support is from the southern neighbors in san francisco over a hundred letters of support from a half a mile from the site and over 5 hundred loser that includes the green dots where all the families live we've done research on the schools in the 94402 and found nearly half of the 26 were in rh1 zones and one advantage is in an rh1 zoning and longfellow elementary has a lot of backyard neighbors and 11 across the street neighbors and done traffic studies i'll not borrow you mostly to say that it is already a light impact area
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where we'll agreeing add less than one car or less than 2 cars perishing per minute at peak time and written up a traffic management plan including the school bus and walking distance for schools grades our ad individual bikers? outside people that want to keep their kids outside and moving we've added 5 loading spots to add to the drop off off and pick up and includes strike enforcement measures. >> the stormwater management we understand it a very big deal for this property not only this property but bye the entire neighborhood experience flooding and recently received the san francisco public works did a model test of coter street with a hypothetical development and
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all of those shed no flooding intensity for 5 year storms we've added bio reconversation or retention and green roofs and will reduce this by 10 percent in a two year storm green roofs and 74 percent is left open to absorb water at sfpuc has said we're in compliance with the stormwater management ordinance and be resolved from the typical approval process over the cu and the school community is dedicated and telegraph hill working and lobbying with the puc to continue forward with the longer plans to solve the solution on a greater level. >> as important preserving the site use the golden bridge school will turn what is called a temporary commercial farm into a permanent and sustainable
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place for children to learn about farming our lease agreement with little city garden and the prior tenants stated the farm was temporary gotten bridge can not subsidy the farm we've spent over one thousand dollars to pay the mortgage for that space as well offering a cash subsidy to the farm gotten bridge schools reached out to the farm to find a permanent home and involved the city in the process ease offered our help our actually man power help to move. >> i'm sorry to pass this. >> good afternoon, commissioners stanley the architect wolf dissolve has a significant architecture originally are the work of rudolph and today, this
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means architecture that connects land and people and grows out of the site our building is woven with nature a landscape absorbing the sunlight and collecting water and changing with the seasons alive a building as a garden with a pathway of the golden bridge an hour glass of land with deturned around are attached houses the entry is on coter setback and keep that in mind the street into public plaza and drop off ear behind the school is a red perforated with open courts every room opens to the outside one side of the classmate the other common spaces stays in an accelerator that gives assess to the second level this is the second level of the classrooms
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there are 3 means of egress the building is sprinklers and one fire rated essential and dedicated safe dispersible area on the left of the slide the project has been reviewed by fire and building as well as independent code consultant and the other section is the classrooms and courts all of the rooms are green and vertical walls and gardens all the courts landscaped and planned with trees and have a friendly section of site 74 percent of land is unbuilt landscape the facade with hill with windows popping through evenlg the public front yard and drop off area at the end the school dissolves have the gotten bridge
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with a wild and primal on the left and orchard in the central third and playground and outside classroom courts and the front drop off on the right at the center of the school is a large multi purpose ramon room that opens from courts on 30 sides this is the heart the space open and closed with a golden bridge interjects on both levels on the gallery that building or building restraining order building and garden are about teaching the present and materials the object and land is part of a building this building is an educational landscape here the imagination and common sense of children what about nurtured
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and grow and creates an electrical ability to flourish to meet the members of society those wholesome values are the basis of this school. >> okay anyone else in the project sponsor team? that concludes okay opening up for public comment a lot of speaker cards going to call a bunch of names in batches if you're in the waiting room or the other room time to come up we'll ask supervising when in their name is called cue yourselves up on that side of room and two minutes i expect folks are similar comments if
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you can keep them educate to yourselves keep the process going >> (calling names). >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm clara local resident in bernal heights as a parent in preschooler and second grader at the gotten bridge school i'm here to voice my support i'm sure you know how important, however, i'm here to can you be u talk about was at the heart of the on or about our support for san francisco before i was a parent activists a teacher and talking about taught in the uk is an essential and
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unique school our families choose this because of the learning any children are thriving at the school this is this school is searching for a permanent place and in glen canyon and golden gate park and everyone afternoon we see by the color of the dirt on days he went to the farm he smells of architecture we know the wild areas and feels a confident and responsibility for farm and to the earth how they spent their days as we adults fight for who gets this piece of land how much our children connection with the land i calculate that over who years stanley spent many years and they've haeftdz and prepared
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18 bowels of soup the land is having nor impact on people in the way the school needs the be longer or long term we stay here and halfway around the world wus of this school if we can't fulfill adversities vision my family will be forced to leave san francisco. >> next speaker, please. >> there we go. >> good afternoon. my name is banning a lifelong parents in the area i live in sunny side your son has been with the school going on 4 years i want to starter by saying what a unique school gotten bridges has the unique values to be creative and community oriented citizens
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i've seen my son grow in focus and values other people and the earth those are fundamental things and building that ass values are critical to san francisco in general it is a disservice to not raise up the standards the school has pan responsive in dooiks knowing both the community surrounding the farm i honestly feel the residents are lucky to have this school as a neighborhood rather than a developer or other school that doesn't hold the values earlier this year we are evicted from our home in the go mission district and this is a difficult time we had a new baby it was difficult to leave the home we started our family and we feel we did a lot of soul searching and our sons with golden bridge
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support it critical i've had a lot of conversation with families didn't feel that san francisco doesn't love us but the generous it is a real ray of hope in the city if they can't find a permanent home our home here is in in question i hope you'll say this as part of the issue thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is heather i'm here to voice my support for the proposal and so that a kindergartener at golden bridges we bike to the farm our family choose golden bridges because of it's dedication to social
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justice and the outdoor experiences before my son starting going to golden bridges we want to preschool in the mission everyday i felt sad dropping him off - sorry i was sad that he had to stay inside the whole time it is emotional sorry we come to love golden bridges our family is so them happier knowledge there because 83 he comes home from school and he empties his pockets instead of focusing on star wars and other things his attention a captured by the way that a seed can't be
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grown into an apple it is not only unique because of it's focus on outdoor education. >> scenic so education and justice this is the only school i know of that parents and faculty come together and talk about making the school an anti racist school not just talk it is become a place we can openingly talk about race and economic diversity and to me that is important because i'm a mother of mixed race children and i like others hear that it is a from the school can't find a home we'll face the decision whether or not we can stay in san francisco thank you. >> you're next. >> okay my name is john brown a husband of claire and i wanted to say
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that i wanted to talk about what it is that makes the education at the golden bridges the wall puts an emphasis on a beautiful place that feeds the child's natural creativity and deputies the. >> and nature we've seen how our son relatives to the open space on the street but the school needs a permanent home it needs to be a local one and which we and the other families can cycle or walk to i remember with fondness of days we and other families spent clearing the trash from the land on coter street and the commitment of determination to work through tough stuff and creating a beautiful learning environment
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this is a viable long term use for the lands and something the community and neighbors can be proud of and provides affordable local education opportunities to help families live in this part of san francisco that's why i think you should approve the application thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is rita i'm a neighbor i am the treasurer of mission terrace improvement association and an retired kindergarten teacher from san francisco unified school district speaking against the project there are two background points i'd like to make our neighborhood suffered collateral damage by the construction of interstate 280 and bart the sewer system was not properly engineered our neighbors have floodwater and sewage into as to their home secondly, the land on
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coter street is needed to mitigate the continuous flooding that exists on the lot because of if underground creek fast forward the structure by the project sponsor will add to the flooding problem more will think pouring into the sewers and less absorbed by the land little city gardens is a wonderful neighborhood their use of land absorbs the water we were so happy when little city gardens opened on coter street this long vacant lot was a place of beauty and open space and spliegs at late the lot was as gem in the neighborhood the garden blending that harmoniously with the potential on the rise, however, the promise where is broken the
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process that was in place to stash and sustain this urban farm was swept aside i suggest you. come and visit the sites the scale is inappropriate to the neighborhood we need help to correct the sewer system and the land on coter to remain a farm we love the peace and sincerely resilient of the peace please help us keep the place liveable and peace physical. >> we'll offer some accommodations folks with let's go kids if you have little ones if you want to come on up ahead of the line that would be great
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(calling names). >> how about i'm max speaking in support of school i'm born and raised and played hunger hippo at pier 39 i wanted to thank to the commission for hosting us today it is very comfortably to know there are systems and procedures in place for a school that needs to move forward and i know there are a lot of emotions by great to have a great system a system to fulfill our collective focus on having good way to run this city and how the city will be for the next generation looking at the vision i pulled from the wednesday
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night making san francisco the world's this is from our website the most liveable vision i share it the introduction to the school i saw just now kind of aligns with that i'm in the sustainable food business i believe in sustainability and the importance of teaching that to say the next generation i use it every single day this is from winning bat out of hell delta berry to cherish what remains of the architecture and fosters it's renewable our hope important survival those are tough words we're facing challenged as a community and it's important the next generation learns what we they need to wherever so how do we make san francisco the most liveable urban center how do we cherish the land and foster it's
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renewable everyone understand that green space and urban farmz is one method to doing that that is what is important about this school is brings that into the classmate how do we build that strong foundation working with the next generation. >> i'm sorry sir, your time is up. >> if you do run out of time you have something preempted written leave it on the railing. >> thank you very much. >> good afternoon. i'm margaret fox a parent of a new second grader at the golden bridges speaking in support my family my mom from san francisco moved here two years ago in 2014 one week before public school began and looking at that
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vantage point i no idea how complicated 1, 2, 3, 4 school system we navigateed until we found out about golden bridges from the research it is one of two schools the other one in the richmond that is even marginally affordable outside of catholic schools question have a 3-year-old that will be joining us at golden bridges we're brand new to the schools brought a level of calm and comfort to our family a very open and welcoming place and i think i'm a practical level so needed in the city so have a place for the candle stick park to go to school and have options thank you very much. >> hi, my name is wendy i'm a -
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live on cayuga directing around the chiropractor from the proposed development i'm speaking in opposition we want to say this project has high powder financial support question are small office spaces we have flooding was the inadequate sewage back up our homes are flooded with sewage a major health hazard and currently a latitude pending against the city of san francisco by neighborhoods residents because of the loss and gage of the inadequate sewage system we face the rainy season with dread and sandbags around our property some people have inches and some feet of raw
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sewage that was a fema site with personal belongings lynn the street the puc natural management asset adding more people to the neighborhood flushing the toilets is not a good thing their rainwater system doesn't go help this will add add water for the flooding situation we face every rainy season i want to say we're not against schools my daughter attended an independent school this school has a lovely program not about that but the development will be a disaster for the neighbors putting us in further risk of damage this any large development adds to our stress we have a lot to deal with i'm talking about sewage in our homes this will cause nor
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damage to our homes thank you. >> once you start speaking sfgovtv about turn that on. >> let's talk about flooding i live director across the street from this i've lived in san francisco since 1987 this development and rooted in a way to do good is the wrong idea for this piece of land planning code section states that such feature as proposed will not be detrimental to the health or safety or a injures to property for those unfortunately living
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and working in the terrace this puts our health at realistic the pictures can you see those this is what happened in 2014 the picture on the left a picture taken of the lot in front of the 203 coter spewing fees the pictures on the right is the sewer blowing on the corner of san jose and the top picture it has mat people shifting through our blornz belongings. >> this next picture - >> is actually our home our home received 2 feet of stormwater and sewage the plans on file address did two year rain event point out that mission terrace received two, 10
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year storms and 5 every two the plans on file are inadequate to address climatic change will make that worse you have a study we believe the b mp uses invalid assumptions and last night we received for the fit new information from the puc and dpw we've not addressed or look at. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hello thank you my name is rick on coter street director across the street from the farming yes might house was flooded during the storms in 2014 i'm here to talk about
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traffic and my concerns about the parking and traffic at the proposed project as it was add a substantial amount of traffic to cot era 1 way narrow street from san jose avenue down to alamany boulevard i have a slide here or an image if you want to turn on the overhead to show you the narrow street let's see here - >> all right. well okay. this is not doing an adequate job a 1 lane street with parking on either side of the street and i think one of the concerns we have it makes this school location such a danger is the 200 accomplice students and participants and faculties that will be going down the street in an event of an emergency you
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know as we witnessed i've witnessed as a parent and students are dropped off they street no immediate parking they double park in the middle of the street blocking traffic with the hazard lights on where this becomes critical in the event of a fire, flooder earthquake or some disaster and the question if participants are coming to collect their children and no place to park and double park in the street with the hazard how are emergency vehicles to get to this location it is a critical concern so just something to think about. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi my name is keri lived in san francisco for 23 requesters and moved to mission terrace in
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early 2011 my home as well as has flooded this is a diverse group of people diverse languages and seniors and surprising a large number of educators and hard working people part of what made this neighborhood great has been to the 3203 coter street and bauptd our neighborhood together give extra vegetations and flowers to the neighborhood and put on poetry reading and have a gathering place for neighbors they really are the heart of the neighborhood we have had 8 hundred and 29 petitions that oppose the development and trying to preserve the open space for golden bridges a number of their letters actually are from not
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they say they're from san francisco residents but actually from places outside of san francisco outside of bay area outside of california we found one from australia so the people in san francisco that are 0 supportive you need to understand from the beginning when this was proposed we were told it would be a small school a handful of people working in conjunction and we were in support of that but every turn it has the defied the scope i know i'm being cut off i implore the commission to listen to the people that live in mission terrace and impacted by the real concerns so for our homes please do right by your neighborhood preserve your shrinking open spaces and preserve the open spaces to make this city great i appreciate thank you for your time.
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>> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> thanks for letting me jump the line i'm an excelsior resident a parents of 2 eventually 3 kids my family lives 3 blocks from the location if you're a parent you know how excited i am to be walking my kids to school i want you to know what the school means to me we navigated the unif i had lottery we didn't get our neighborhood school or the nearest to our home 23 we doesn't know of a place to go to school we learned two important considerations my wife is a writer and creative writing instructor i'm a freelance
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affirmative when golden bridges opportunity is pay as you can but a lifeline to our family it radical idea that allowed us to stay and raise my kids in san francisco i want my kids to have a deep connection to the earth we want to get our kids in nature and golden bridges offers that and throughout the wild spaces of san francisco that's also why the design of 2 story alleviates over the 2 percent of private land on increase a lot of education on the gardens and visual stewardship as a affirmation for all areas of learning how any kid's learn math and experiment on hands on way and it's true they'll have the flowers for restaurant to an
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education space with the stewardship for hundreds of people over time in terms of the community at large golden bridge has a positive impact thank you, sir, your time is up. >> next speaker, please. >> >> good afternoon. my name is christen i'm the mother of a kindergartener at golden bridges school my husband and i met at high school in san francisco and now we're blessed with 3 beautiful children we're committed to stay in the city to provided did childhood for our children that supports them the nutrient and education that golden bridges provide for my date and the student body is hard to put to word the creativity and love that she shares has changed our families life my daughter has grown from
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the taken care of and curriculum she is influence by the teachers in the community on the moral responsibility we share in strengthening and nourishing each other through the activities her physical body has been stronger here heart opened and they are security and her own body flourished this happened in the one year at golden bridges this consciousness and education is not found at an affordable cost at any other school in san francisco the combination of outdoor ed and experiencing childhood with her hands and hearts and mind is unique and valuable her wonder about mother nature is inspiring we're growing in relationship to the outdoor world those transformative effects are happening in all families faced on to friends and relatives those teachers are having a continuing effect for many san
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francisco generations to experience now more than ever we need children that love nature for the will changing seasons and the love and wonder of the outside that embody the inspired of healing enjoy being the stewards of land spreads cheer and light and mindfulness and patience, went peace and truth and abundance for all thank you. >> thank you for the accommodation i'm ray a 18 year san franciscan and a 5 year mission terrace resident this is lucy a lifetime resident who may or may not go to the school we're worried about that right now i want to address two things or things you're well aware of this is a temporary zoning and the terrace i'm a member but
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acknowledge that in supporting that designation change and everyone involved knew the urban architectural was temporary secondly, this is just a wonderful project the mitigation of stormwater and rainwater the cohesion with the natural environment couldn't be a better project as compared to anyone else denser housing whatever it is the highest use that the neighborhood will get for this property and while i simple emphasize with the neighbors that have flooding golden bridge school shouldn't be held responsible it is ongoing for years and years and years perhaps the spotlight can spur the neighborhoods to
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add living room and per mangle pavement for everyone trying to resolve that issue but this is a fantastic project for this parcel thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. ford. >> good afternoon. i'm james i live in glen park a 10 minute walk but with my kids a 20 minute walk i was not pleased to be here i'm a principal and don't take off work and put a lot of my team members to be here it is important this school a built and my daughter get to attend it i'm actually turned out to be a pleased to be here a would have chat in opposition but someone that doesn't want this project built it was wonderful to sit next to him thank you for taking that break
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we're neighbors whether you like it or not and continue to be neighbors furthermore, i work with a lot of school boards and attend a lot it's a great learning process to see the way you conduct yourselves it is intelligent questions the intelligent is important and i believe that whatever decision that you make whether to support this or not it is going to be the correct decision so thank you very much overwhelms to head back to work and bless you you'll do another hour of. >> probably more than that. >> >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i'm the co-founder and operator of
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little cigardens you, you can adjust to get the whole sheet in it you want. >> we're san francisco commercial farm we grow forces for market and offer no experience educational work days and work onsite 4 to 5 days a week and the gate is open for neighbors to come in freely i'm here to support 91 my neighbors strong concerns and in the complete review process and spotlight in their preview working farm serves as a model of a low impact and highly celebrated use there's already been established city support for this in 2011 our farm was an example that
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passed the zoning ordinance to allow for more farming in this city in 2013 we passed the statewide legislation to enter long term contracts with farmers that is essential for viability and permanentness that law is the uniqueness of this very parcel and the momentum our farm built in will neither here nor there golden school bought this we wanted to airbnb into are practice and have the highest use of agricultural to those efforts were cut short i building in coter to be held in perpetual i believe the enthusiasm and momentum is out interest i believe in our ability to facilitate this - >> thank you i'm going to call
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more names if you're in the overflow room make your way up (calling names) please line up to that the television side. >> please. good afternoon. i'm peter woods a sf resident that worked on various farms in the bay area over little past several years a long term supporter i've been a partner and employee of the little city gardens for the last two years they've offered me the opportunity to learn and grow in the field of ashen while live and work in san francisco i'm here to option the conditional use authorization little city
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gardens excuse me. golden bridges schools will develop this on the scope that is inappropriate that becomes clear in order to provide the infrastructure to support a working c-3 for 200 plus students and teachers after considering the open space for play and ultimately the space for agricultural will be compromiseed and the development will cause greater environmental review there are many reasons to illustrate why coter by geometric brimgz school is have not property for the site it is clear that many of the members of the neighborhoods are not in support of development in contrast with the little city gardens they've gained the trust building lasting relationships
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with the community and demonstrated a working farm what about viable for occupation and labor for a farming striate an urban scale and more appropriate use of the last remaining state e site for agricultural i urge you to consider a continuance for this proposal. >> thank you. >> it's okay to make a straight line instead of bunch up in the corner the people can see the first and second tv next speak ms. johnson. >> my name is silvia johnson. and i think we have been building the process our climate that we need some - with that
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development because we're going into a very rain on friday hope it is not too you know - because there's where a lot of our - what we need what you call another element we need to price in our society, of course, the ask the is being you know with our mixed environment which
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shouldn't be you know on our side but not speaking of you know in clearance to you know develop our prevents for legal assistance to opt - been our environment which needs you know - we more - >> thank you, ms. johnson. >> next speaker, please. >> hello, i'm ca terrain a translator and a writer and an
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san francisco nature as uc berkley he value the impact of schools if there is something incredible precious rare a working farm into wroven through the neighborhood open to anyone that want to stop in or volunteer and in the proposed development/close the space except to private groups i support of the preparedness of this open farm says that the little gardens have working hard to transform once you pave over paradise you can't get it back i want to read small business words a freelance writer and berkley graduate that lived in san francisco for a decade and volunteered it is little gardens she writes consider what our city will lose if it is developed into something other than a farm the land will not
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disappear but the city of san francisco has on this one change to preserve it groundbreaking model of agricultural within the builders spaces for farming is becoming more expensive and scarce if we don't decide to grow that planned into food hundreds of hands have removed rocks and other things prep to grow call and onions and other things and hours man you are has been worked into the soil and countless numbers have stopped as to say hello and pick the berry's shots from restauranteurs visit the farm carrying away food and proud to promote this to.
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>> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> thank you, ma'am. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is ben grossmann i'm a volunteer at the little city gardens i urge you to for a proposal for the continuance. >> i urge strongly urge for a proposal for the continuance and to please consider and obvious preserving the space of the little city gardens as a farm there are a lot of supporters for urban agricultural i represent a volunteer i've lived in san francisco for 20 years i discovered the little city gardens i've been going there since then two days a week it changed me greatly so i guess i speak for the potential of it
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being a public space for people not familiar and respect city the city i live in more brown from being there and hear the neighbors concerns their valid i lived in bernal heights and for 20 years i think i will hope the school can find a different place for the farm it is caitlin does there with the soil is eir replaceable and a lot of future for that so i urge you to observe preserving that space and to continue the proposal thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is boey i'm an urban farmer educator and lifetime resident the san francisco southern neighborhood and involved in the parcel in a unique role i volunteered at little city gardens for 5 years and worked
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for 2 years as a garden educator. i grew up in mission terrace i know this debated parcel and community intimating yet in any understanding of the future of this parcel is not based the relationships with the individual people or organizations any sentiment on the land use so founded on the principle that all people deserve this mother earthquake i oppose the conditional use authorization because as it currently stands it serves does an educational sacrifice from which is it so paramount in answering huge social questions where does our food come from how do we eat with the decline the farmlands farmland is farmland lost
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forever as we precede into the 21st century having food would the fossil fuel with the urbanization how to continue to eat little city is we are going those questions my work at little city gardens was the education that allowed me to pilot at golden bridge i speak for the soil and defend the soil not only host the red hawks and the abundance of hawks but the last working farms a creek bed and the farm is assessable resource education i'm i speak for the trees for the trees have no tongs i'm asking you to vote for a continuance to consider. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> thank you, ms. weaver.
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>> next speaker, please. >> hi, everyone i'm as an. >> conspiring farmer and want to voice my opposition to the project and strongly urge you to vote on, on a continuance it preserves the land and transformed both into a productive urban agricultural it is underdeveloped for years and years and important reasons any developer discoveries this is unsuit for this kind of development for numerous reasons brought up and contrary to the claims of developers those plans don't truly preserve the necessary open space at cot her new construction is new construction papers are papers not a plan for it they claim just a francesca will be a garden it is a private school
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with private space it is not prudent to destroy the urban farm in the city in order to build another one pardon me the line from the taxi about putting trees in a tree museum it is eliminating a farm and making another school being commercial didn't mean we're not have and for this community the work that dedicated farmers do will be eir reservely lost the best way to preserve open space in the city and for the cities vote on a continuance for this ordinance thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is kate i
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live on coter street two doors from the proposed development and i'm speaking in opposition to the development and asking you for you to consider a continuance we don't understand the impacts and we received the information on the development pretty critical last night so in the last twenty-four hours i want to say i'm a mother of three children two teenagers they go to a mix of schools i was raised here and i now work in public schools in the east bay and my husband is a educator in sfusd for are nearly 20 years we support schools and we believe in education and in the process of this development the golden bridge have said we're not pro children
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we're not pro development of this scale at 203 coter puts the homes at risk we're not pro development excuse me - development who's models and promises are on - traffic and as someone i see the reality their approaching is wishful thinking there are over two dozen scholars community schools and serve the families offering garden and small farms they talk about race and social justice we don't need another private school this is will a private skim i'm imploring you to consider
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preserving the green space thank you, ms. loving it and i. >> i live two doors down from the kids 16, 14 and 2 i've been an educator where i'm a native for 14 years i was the deadly weapon dean at mist i need to work orchestra egress and in case of an emergency i'm opposing this not because i'm afraid of flooding i'm really concerned about the safety of 200 kids going to the school this particular property has one way in and out spent the plans study the plans look at the them carefully a concern for the 200
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kids in 1997 i was working at the st. peter's and fortunately with the multiple angles that the fire department was able to reach the property none was seriously hurt in this case that is a nightmare as far as an emergency situation most of buildings are you think in 1977, 2004, 11 and 14 those proposed developments of that land were rejected or failed because of egress i mean it is an interesting blot of land so any concern is that the fire department has not weighed in that didn't happen until after the planning is approved i implore you to at least continue it is too much at risk to make a
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decision about this today thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> by e hi ladies and gentlemen, i'm jesse levitt at parents of a one-year-old and my sister and family you heard from live on coter i'm concerned about this project so much of the critical information has been realized at the very last minute the neighbors received environmental document one day from the hearing even though we were told that was published in september and at 10:00 a.m. the document was not online we received the stormwater management plan less than a week ago we've been asking for it months ago and the san francisco public works and dpw response to the memo was received yesterday those address the reflexes to the neighborhood and realizing
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releasing them is not open and transparent i think those types of documents information needs to be considered in a reasonable and deliberate manner and not shoved at the last minute and given to the commission at the last minute i request the commission vote on a continuance in this matter. >> thank you, sir i'm going to call more names (calling names) please line up against the television wall. >> hello commissioners thank you for the opportunity to speak i'm in opposition to the conditional use authorization i'm a volunteer at the little
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city gardens and extremely happy about the educational opportunity it provided for me and many other volunteers the tremendous asset to the community and the city to have this welcome and open space for anyone to have hands on food cultivation and continuation an before this accident to see that local food - urban green space i don't believe that the appropriately land use is appropriate for this unique space parks needing to protect one of the last farming parcels it's location in the largest water shed making it prone to flooding you've heard many times it will diminish the flowed mitigation that the farms as places burden on the local sewer system more storm run off with -
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we lose a much needed resource in the climate making that more flood vulnerable and the green roofs catch some rainwater and alleviates the runoff situation they don't have nearly the capacity of the farm it is interesting interests a lot of overlap between the aims of the school and that of the environmentally minded gardens like myself i think the schools vision is admirable but i think that is the balance of development and preservation like little city gardens makes this city strife and be liveable i'll support a continuance thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> like to remind the public
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standing in front of a door or doorway if you are cute up to speak move your way to this. >> the reason we are standing by the door we can't see the tv set. >> feedback. >> not appearing to be anyone grovent the television set. >> i'm a volunteer at little city gardens for the past 5 years and speaking against the project and recommended continuance for this case over the years with work hard and dedication and commitment encourage and transformation happened the land has became becoming a tyler farm space where food is grown and flowers bloom for strainers and people of displaced background is a valuable working farm that should be protected make the
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city proud as a final comment i'd like to express my deepest grield to city gardens i didn't know 5 years ago it will have a change on any friendship it is an honor to be part of this movement thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is rebecca i'm a long term resident of san francisco i am from the fencing i've been a volunteer at little city gardens for over a year i'm an aspiring student i'm speaking against the plans on coter street earlier this year i started a ice cream company not only does little city supply my
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company with ingredients they have supplied the biggest market in the city by right mission pie to name a few san francisco is one of the americans best food cities if not the world because of the producers and resources urban agricultural is essential for a dynamic food scenes for self-residence an opportunity for education on farming systems for children's and adults alike other cities like portland and count i and new york have the right agricultural movement little city has demonstrated his success in this parcel development on this land is eir receivable we ask you to support the urban agricultural and consider the importance of this space to this neighborhood and city if you guys don't decide
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today take a field trip and r and see how it is not appropriate for a building plan. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is maggie marks the program director at garners for the environment san francisco's public teaching gardens we teach and cultivate the gardeners have working closely with the little city gardens this is a strong example of organic gardening where our students become inspired we need more locations for new gardeners to cultivate soil in san francisco as a city that prides itself on its commitment to the environment and a leading city we believe this is a moment to protect this farm one the cultivated and
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never before development plaque we can't go back this is an irreversible decision i'm also going to read a statement from the agricultural alliance a collaboration that represents more 50 groups that promote on behalf of the alliance i ask you to oppose the conditional use authorization from golden bridges school they very much support linking agricultural with education pebble more value in san francisco to having a working farm one that hosts school visits assessable to children across the city than a private school for 2 hundred children we hope the commission will see this has strong support from neighbors and that is also supported for this development. >> thank you, ms. marks.
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>> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is donna i'm a resident of district 11 excelsior district and i've lived there 24 years and volunteer with friends of urban forte so i oppose this project at 203 coter street i agree with many of the speakers that have opposed it before and one of my main reasons for opposing it, it is use for a small group of people instead of a larger group of people i feel it should be such a valuable resource that i feel it should be be able to be enjoyed by a majority and i think that both groups agree that we love this space and unfortunately, i think that is
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from the school takes it over what we love about the space will not be anymore so that's what i think thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is tracey a resident on trers street and the long term member of the community i'm asking you user urging you to oppose the conditional use authorization by the golden bridge school or at least provide a opportunities i want you to consider the scenario 3:00 a.m. you hear the rain pelleting the roof you're not sleeping because your terrified the sandbags you've lugged into place in the low ground locations are not going to keep the water at bay so many times
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they have not in the worst drought this somewhere has played itself out you and our neighbors suffered through flooding with your family dealing with sewage and 40 percent of americans respond they couldn't come up with an additional $400 not to mention the emotional and mental tool still the city insists it is too costly to replace the pipe this is why you can't sleep at night and adding 200 more topaz o people is unconscionable especially replacing the agricultural space with little city gardens we can't afford this to be subject to development as someone that work in education a strategist in
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their education studio and now an independent consultant i'm pro education this is not about the school this is about development thank you. >> my name is gwen i'm the property owner of 638 cayuga adjacent to the site my family lived here 20s years i'm opposed to the development and hope the commission gives serious consideration to the multiple of with a population of more than 200 plus into the hourglass sliver of land will have terrible consequences as the map shows the houses on cayuga have tiny backyard over the past few
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months my family is impacted by the classes held on the other side of my fence literally a few yard from your bedrooms golden bridge held an event with flute playing my members of the family was trying to sleep this is not con rat and a compelling sign of what is to come if this go forward i don't care how many decimals i know for a fact where i live in the middle of the development noise will be a huge issue for any family please read our letters look at our valid objections and consider the neighbors that oppose this and don't approve the conditional use authorization application thank you. >> hello good afternoon i'm speaking for the project
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i'm speaking specifically against continuance as a former san francisco public school teacher i believe deeply in quality satisfaction assessable to all and building in unique educational offers and opportunities awhile some children survive in standard classrooms many are mother successful every child is unique that's why it is important for parents to choose on educational path with the right opportunity for three quarters individual growth as a mom of two kindergarten and preschool i spent a lot of time considering what the best pathway for any children over time and through much research he minded them to have an education that fourth deep interaction with nature for social justice and a connection
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to their imagination as i looked for a school that exemplified those principles i ultimately fell in love are good job bridges i want them to attend them are it is a community appearance and teachers are committed to outdoor living fosters an assignment where kids get dirty and explore the outdoor and allow themselves to be immersed in nature while this school is the only school in san francisco based on the outdoor educational moderately this is growing in popularity san francisco is the first place to know what it means to say a farming school because of interest in the school and it's success we can't exist at the location manipulative longer that's why
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i'm fighting against the continuance that puts our school in jeopardy. >> thank you your time is up. >> i'll call more names as you make your way up (calling names). >> go ahead. >> my name is selma i live on cayuga my husband and i are born and raised in san francisco and lived on catch-22 you go - let's see my husband and i were born and raised in san francisco and live on catch-22 you go obviously this is great educational opportunity i'm opposed to the location for this school i think that some parents and employees will walk and bike to school but traffic is my biggest concern i've already been stuck behind
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double parking i come and go 1e6r789 during the day is as major transit area between the bureau necessarily and alamany we get a lot of traffic i'm not sure when the other numbers of traffic came from let's see - it is a narrow one way that is discussed but also two days of no parking in the morning which will conflict with the start of school session that impacts again, the traffic there let's see i do have concerns about the anticipated one to two minute drop off through the round about i don't know if you've dropped off students it has more than one or two reasons people take longer than to drop
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off they remembered to update a parent of something that is for this all equals for back up on coter street for example, i been to the dean school sites on ocean avenue they do have rules against double parking on that street oh, shoot and enforcement measures not in place. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> i'll remind the members of the public you are creating a fire hazard line up on the other side of the room. >> good afternoon. i'm beth clark a resident of glen park my son attends the school and here to speak against the continuance the city gardens is a viable farm they don't pay rent golden
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bridges schools instills an appreciation of our natural environment they're like no other skim from the school is not allowed to build on coter it will be a loss to the city and we're going to consider leaving san francisco and this is reflected 90 percent of school families live within two my name is miles many walk or bike the green roof will help to capture stormwater and morgan hill 74 percent of is site will be open space in a city like san francisco every a little bit of space is precious and this is the way that farming will happen on 203 coter street from the school is not built another sub development will take its place i reject the ill will i believe
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their exasperated as sewage floods their homes and they experience living in a city those problems were in existence when the school bought the land and will remain in opted out occupied. >> hi, i'm sarah i lived in so for 8 years. >> i'm a small business owner a preschool teacher and a former farmer taught kids will water and things specific to san francisco in those realms and a friend and customer that buys their produce and inspired by the food and education opportunity over the site i'm here to oppose the
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conditional use permit and i'll read some of caitlin galleries words published on growing food locally that the farmers bring to any community it is important we protect the farms and find the farmland we don't understand how to take into consideration to build soil sometimes, i look at any feet and see soil it is hosting living things and responds to our treatment and changed temperature and make up micro are communities and bilingual intelligence and collaboration a city parcel full of soil is by and large concerned or considered a negative slate by and waiting to be covered and side seeds nutritious so decomposing and up and running to their source allowing for
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food and flower production and normal listing this is a valued and respected use of land we consider the context eco system we're only a small part that render the soil meaningful there is a huge difference between educational farm setting and this needs to remain a commercial farm thank you. >> hi, my name is matt i'm a resident in the mission district with my wife and two kids one bart stop away from the jeffrey coter site and my 4-year-old son can bicycle i'm excited to have this close by by the 1k8 promotes generous it and involvement with the outdoor modesty son started at the as kindergartener and can see his
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appreciation for hiking in glen park think anyone that raised kids in the city agonized over the school process so i think three-legged stool a valuable thing to increase the diversity of the school options i know some people are against it being a private school but - following the development of this i take it that the neighbors in this area have been opposeded to the development it strikes me this land can't be vacant forever - and the school has been responsive to neighbor concerns changing the plan to make that a better neighbor and i think this is highly in favor of changing the zoning to
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promote a school instead of residential use i'll appreciate if you approve this so the school can get on to educating the future san franciscans. >> thank you. >> hi, i'm vanessa a local resident of the mission district and have been there for 11 years my son did just start gotten bridges school but in the last three weeks we've i don't know every time i go to the mooeshgz and see the kids it gives me a warm feeling he feel like when we are - i first moved here i heard about how the schools with a lot of people move out of the city once and have children i
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was hoping i love san francisco and still love it i'll not have to make the decisions and it is just strikes me that there are people opted opposed to building schools in 40 or having years we'll have a school that has great impact for many more than 200 kids for all those years so i'm here to voice my support for the proposal and as a parent i can't be more exciting for the school establishing home on the site i think this is important we start building as quickly as possible because we're running out of room thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is anna a long term resident of the southern edge of
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the mission district i'm also a golden bridge parents and like to speak in favor of the school i've heard voices with valid concerns and feel for all the pro farm people probably have more in common we love urban nature and farming i have a deep sympathy but not heard any convincing argument this school is going to negatively impacting i try to eat local sustainable schools and in favor of vicinity farms, however, have not heard a quickening argument how the farm makes itself sustainable without the city subsidizing it i'm sympathetic to the development and i see
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development popping up one inch from my home in the mission the proposed building project is anti development persons dream complete with green walls and green roof and open space and really an authentic commitment to the environment so this school which my daughter attends for nearly 4 years keeps our family in san francisco we know that keeping families in san francisco is critical and setting aside any personal desire to see my daughter attend the school i believe the most impactful legacy that we can leave for our city to train the next generation of san franciscans with the values the schools upholds thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm in support of
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development of the seats so for the golden bridges school just briefly i agree with much that has been said for both sides a hard decision in terms of supporting the school i'm a psycho therapist but involved in mental health and seen the lack of resources for teachers in training and children's experiences throughout the city to have access to nature i also live in glen park lived in san francisco over 50 years and lived on a dairy farm i know the value of living outdoor i see the riches for the glen park high school and see how a school can interface the parents walk in their skids i know that golden bridge will support that back to the services that the
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school provides in terms of social justice and also curriculum based program the buildings themselves extols children to an environmentally sound earth and for the kids to have access to a curriculum that will support understanding the land growth, farming everything that everyone has spoken about we kribtd to the curriculum in the city of san francisco thank you. >> game-changer commissioners i'm a michelle a fourth generation san franciscan and my husband too our son is a second grader and beginning his third year other golden bridge and part of this
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community this school provides an option in san francisco for a child that may not be suit for traditional education why private or public we choose this school we like their academic approach by their experimental learning to outdoors i believe that the dedication of this school stewardship and outdoor education will honor this farm and will keep the farm alive in it's legacy in terms of continuing to be part of community and continuing to teach children about outdoor farming and stewards of the land my son is thriving at the school and we need a home and i our leadership is generously working to address
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the very valid concerns of the neighborhood and in terms of the building and the traffic and the water concerns and i believe that we are planning to build something that the people of 24 neighborhood and community will be proud of and we'll be good neighbors thank you. >> hi good afternoon. my name is defense attorney are crawford a parent at golden bridges and a resident of glen park i'm about an 8 or 13 minute walk i consider this site to be part of my neighborhood i'm feeling grateful our kids will be attending an urban school and i could be driving one hour in the public school system i do for
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any other daughter in other school we are attracted because of the education piece and it truly is unlike any other school my son spent three or four hours outside and can telling me about planning department call and piping through the words those are invariability if we're trying to raise the next generation of land stewardess secondly, the flexible tuition has made that affordable and unfortunately, the school is retrained in a narrow location from what i understand this land is supported little gardens financially i feel if we want to see this land to be continued to be farmed both sides want to have maple the only way to surefire this is farmland to approve this project i'm here to speak against the continuance
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and in support of golden bridge school thank you. >> i'll call a few more speakers as you're working your way up (calling names). >> hi, my name is bryan a parent at golden bridges school a founder parents and a resident of bernal heights and like to thank you all for the chance you've given us all there's been a lot of effect on the closed captioner i want to second it to our family it is really what keeps us tied to the city we've
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been here for 5 years and came to san francisco because of it's progressive attitude and reputation to the other arguments i want to focus on the liveability that is important that is important to me that the city views live ability not just about parks but about community and i think one of the great things that golden bridges is doing beyond the education it is educating a community that extends that learning extends beyond our children and our diversities and activities want to take at that time, broader community there is a tremendous opportunity before us all today, i understand deeply and emphasize with the challenges those challenges need to be solved we have a tremendous tint u opportunities to come together
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as neighbors and say how can we uphold this unique mission in the education and how can we come together as a community and build a city as it is liveable i'm here to support this and move forward together i'll ask you to think about the great medication and our chance to make san francisco a greater beacon for progressiveness thank you. >> i've lived in san francisco mostly in bernal heights and seen the city go through a lot of changes many for the better and some not i've been through a lot of changes myself so i understand why especially in today's climate people are or
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not, i can't think a a better way to change man golden bridges is - a school on top of academic education and values the social justices and respect for our community as a mom with a 3-year-old daughter i want to raise her i think about what it means to raise a kid's in the city but challenge how to balance that with a connection to nature and how to know how to get dirt under her fingernail it would be easier to move to the east bay parking is easy but want to stay here i'm blessed to have found golden bridges who values i agree with my daughter goes to school one what block away and with other families we're able to make sure that
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families who can't afford it are work able to i know there is opposition and the respect how golden bridges takes people's considerations to heart they've invested time and money to make sure they do this right they want to help city gardens to find a new 0 home and they're committed to help with open space there's no doubt that will change from today and change is hard but doing it for the right reasons is hard thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners thank you for thank you for your time to hear the case my name is jill i was born in san francisco a mother of two obesity that attend the golden brims school
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and i live a few blocks away in the odds of the 280 and the sunny side glen park area we're not in the mission terrace we are neighbors of the school and see this as a neighborhood school a very big part of the reason we choose this school the proximity to our house and the ability to walk to school as someone that cares deeply prosecute about so forth justice and the idea that child development nature is so critical to child development that was a dream come true i saw this school and add the affordable tuition model a no-brainer to join the school a lot of schools in san francisco have a gardening program but i
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want to point out those kids spend more than 50 percent of their school outside of school golden bridges is a growing every year and have a problem we're running out of space and desperately need a permanent home it would be devastating to the community if at the left commissioners when our considering as to whether or not the farm school can build classrooms on the land we own and working i ask you to consider the following questions what will be best for the next generations for the future of san francisco thank you. >> hello my name is vivian hooufrns have lived in the noah
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for that a decade we send our kids to golden bridges three years ago we joined because of social justice and civic mindness values that are important and resonate i think with one even in the room in the spirit of community we made every effort as a parent group to work in harmony with the residents surrounding the land heard and took to heart the concerns raised spending our limited resources many of us are middle-income families trying to stay in san francisco to assure a plan for the land that integrates golden brings into the it farm and community for viable and respectful and responsible way the agricultural plans are great the traffic and floats have been adequately
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addressed by professionals what is less clear why every time they're saying not good enough categorical and absolute there has not been a current proposal or suggestion what kinds of compromise will work by the way, no one else was buying we have been an ulcer asterisk school supporting the little city gardens that is amazing all the volunteers that are here talking about their time on the farm we have been subsidizing that and provide an opportunity for many community members to come in and still have this be a farm we're offering community programming to local schools and after-school programs we we're proposing to develop less than thirty percent of the parcel. >> thank you, ma'am, your time
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is up. >> >> next speaker. >> let me call a few more names (calling names). >> thank you good afternoon my name is naomi a librarian in san francisco and a mission terrace resident my husband and i and 6 years old a daughter live on catch-22 you go the farm is our backyard i think the plans that the skim have are lovely and unless you're one of the hours houses that surrounds the school one of the reasons we live here it is closely proximity to glen eagle park and lovely to have the farm even though i knew the land was sold
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i lived in so for for 25 years most of the time in the mission and seen the way the city has 1re79d every single dog on parcel of land that is available and i think there is something really nice about being a city that values open space and that really makes the city live able to me otherwise i would have stayed in new york san francisco is not new york we're moving in that direction one of the things i love when i take my daughter to school she comments on the lovely birds in the neighborhood it is quiet and again having a school directly in our backyard for all the best laid plans to deal with traffic so forth is a nightmare for the people that have to live in mission terrace especially catch-22 you go and the area
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around it consider the quality of life issues this project really representing for those of us that actually live in the boarder around the school thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm betsy i'm speaking in support of golden bridges school request for conditional use authorization to build a school on its property identification purposes i'm a practitioner from the church where the school is temporarily located and out grown it's space and for identification purposes i serve as the president of the diamond heights community association i want you and the neighbors of the planned school
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location to know that the administrator and others are just a delight to work when they readily help to solve all issues and keep their classrooms and outdoor areas tidy and beautiful and involved in diamond heights areas projects including the litter preservation campaign the students and teachers pickup trash along the walkway they hiked to the two neighborhood parks the school is supportive of neighborhood projects and is an asset to our neighborhood i'm sure they'll serve in the same capacity for that the coter street location he listened to the compassionate speakers on both sides of the issues in my mind i go back to how actually, i feel it is fortunate for the coter street neighborhood that golden bridge bought the
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property that can be preserved as a green space a farm space and a school instead of having been purposed by a large-scale developer please vote to the schools request so the golden bridges school can continue as a good neighbor an coter street thank you very much. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is art i moved to san francisco about a year and a half ago whether we got an interview invited to come over to an interview after the interview the first one we looked for that a school that's our number one criteria to come here lived in many beggar cities new york and others to be able to be in the school is fantastic in the sense it makes a better
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person of my daughter and having this opportunity to connect with her natural environment i can talk about i wrote down notes he hear a lot of over lapsing from both sides we simple emphasize with the challenges i have an architecture firm i looked at the plans and see they're dealing with a lot of the problems i'm of the opinion golden bridges is the period of time partner to develop the land looking at the land use and the sustained in the long term what will we do we want to work together with the neighbors to see if we can find the right solutions we're not responsible for the bigger irks but want to work out we found a strong
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community with a high value, high integrity and want to work this out don't want our neighbors to be in trouble and here to work this out together thank you. >> hi my name is department staff i'm speaking in support in my child is my third child a second grader at the golden bridges i've been reading a book by an educator that spoke in the appeared called the last child in the woods punk was the the children are an endischarged species and the healing of the earth can't happen watt the connection with children and nature we hold as a value in my
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family my husband a native 0 san franciscan has made sacrifices we're in a signer school and can't afford to send our youngest and golden bridges came along before that we had two children in the public schools but like raising children's in two religions but the cognitive part was there will be no separate discussion of these items crazy when golden bridges took pity on us and enabled us to send our third child we're grateful he's thriving there like most parents we struggle to keep our children away from screens at home it is good we can send them to the educators
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that have the temperament to keep them outside us as parents are not as good an initiative curriculum at the same time and i think that raising children is to be connected with nature and to learn and it is this re holistic manner movement drama and farming and academics are all deeply integrated is a wonderful thing for san francisco thank you. >> hi there i've been a mission resident for 15 years and ride my bike with my son to school and in support of project i hope you good news 2 for 4 i'm reading a letter of support from a mission terrace resident since
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2009 and a resident of san francisco since 1969 and in support of this proposal saying the unique school opportunity would in her opinion a seat attended the objections from neighbors and concerns for flooding have been examined and appreciate the traffic and noise but feels this extraordinary effort by the school and their attempts to design the building with care to minimize the cares addresses those areas we live in a congested city we face those issues and can be resolved many have been presented she also permanent experienced the concept of a walking school bus children are dropped off in an area to accommodate traffic and this is a daunting process for any planning process she's
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saddened by the polar listed part of the project she loves the favoritism but this marital is not owned by little city garden this parcel of land and this project can be maintained as a farm experience with the plan that golden bridges has presented and others wanted to build housing and golden bridges did not want to do that, please put her name down for the proposal and mine as well thank you very much. >> good afternoon. my name is noah i'm a san franciscan native speaking in support of permit my son a purchase i want to talk about the by reason interest in the outdoor education and how golden bridges will serve the families i'm a teacher and i started teaching at the school
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but i found an outdoor agency golden arts we met 3 days a week in golden park i started the group and 15 families came on the first day with no problems go simply by word of mouth we've grown to a facebook of over 200 and 50 families with 4 combloupz meeting in 4 locations to follow the vision statement why is that relevant my community is a fraction of the numbers crossing the social economic spectrum is seek with grown o golden bridges offers we as our children reach school age what golden bridges is offering is so unique you've heard this school is simply the only option it macros members of
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the commission that assessable to my family that cannot afford ii wish i could transport you to the woods the shining wonder on kids faces as they experience mud and leaves and water it is more than 24 spending a lot of time outside has changed us we're emerging from the isolation and rediscovering our true belongings to each other and architecture and seeing our community extending far beyond our city and seeing neighbors in the neighborhood and beyond thank you for considering our proposal we dearly hope you'll approve this. >> good afternoon commissioners my name is amanda and i'm a local resident of bernal heights for 10 years and parents at the school in support of proposal about 4 years ago
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with the school lottery booming we almost left the city but learned about golden bridges and a handful of other families we funded one hundred dollars at that time, two years ago we had an option to transfer to twin peaks and attending the open school i peered through the fence and saw a part of head park and my son was down in the bright sunshine learning about the life in the beau and exploring the grasslands i knew i couldn't witch to have any 5-year-old in the classroom and spends brief recess on a blanket in a court over the 3 years working and playing on the farm my 7-year-old son witnesses the
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seasons change and know how to cook the harvest and turn it into food he's learning fundamental life skills and 7 year-old and yesterday came home and asked to cook soup for diner and he did. >> the school has grown quickly because many others like us that see the value of this education it fosters a connection to this architecture to san franciscan architecture we've stated the reason we've stated in san francisco and hope the school will find a permanent home to keep this our permanent home thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is ken i'm a 53 residents of coter street grew up playing on that lot and i'm not in favor of the school that will bring traffic and have
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chaos, the way it is now the sewer system is bad i'm tired of walking down the street with sandbags the city needs to take care of the sewer i worked for the city and county of san francisco as a roofing employee i've dealt with green roofs they don't work i've dealt with green buildings they don't work please take into consideration not building this project and considering this continuance thank you. >> thank you. >> before the next speaker comes up we have a lot of speaker cards left i know that is late in the day we've been here but for those who have a run for childcare those who want to lays their hands in support of the project stand up and raise your hands in support of
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the project have a seat. great and those opted to the project if you without shouting civil thank you very much okay i see people in the other side. >> they'll have a chance to come up and i'll ask them. >> okay. >> next speaker, please. >> and i'm freda 10 year resident of catch-22 you go next door to the lot which was a i ask you deny it, it is two congested no entrance and exit mature backyard for everyone and the noise is brutal without a school in there and security concerns if their buildings which are prohibited vacant at night this is for the invitation
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to vandalism and graffiti and worse and finally the school can be anywhere the farm can't thank you. >> game-changer i'm not a public speaker i'm ellen a fourth-generation san franciscan a rare thing not as rare as is farm it is important to maintain i hope you you'll had a chance to view it and walk around and it was there you know prior to i mean it's been there the 5 years i have another k i live on capistrano and share a fence towards the front of the property so my concern is that i'm also a gardener in my yard
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and i've seen san francisco debar did care snakes an endangered speaker we need a continuum for that to be evaluated when the farm went into that there was no heavy excitement maybe one day with a backhoe basically, they farmed are hand tools that's been the case so he really think that needs to be addressed and i don't think that has been i think we need a continuum thank you. >> commissioners that was my lovely wife and i live the capistrano as well when the- i was there when the school you know first presented to caitlin what they deal would be which was a very small school like
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thirty students maybe with a building and letting the farm be it sound a perfect relationship going on we went to another meeting that is after a year or something now it is gone to two hundred students like being in the line at the safeway with 15 items and someone says watch my spaces and comes back with 200 cans of soup it is kind of unfair the water issue don't need to be a ohio droll gift everybody everything is up and the water comes down to that point i think that to study that or fix it deserves a continuum thank you.
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>> hi, i'm here to - read for marine she's up the street from me on behalf of the marine and her 6 family members that live or have lived with her on the street i strongly urge you not to vote not to delay the zoning my husband and i live on coter street for 35 years not enough thought has been put to the mission terrace neighborhood and more specifically coter street besides damage we - this project is not fully considered powdering us with parking
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solutions there are times with kids on the farm near the fence for hours i was able to hear them i'm half up the block imagination what it will be like when 33 neighbors fences border in project i don't feel it is important to accommodate this school we enjoy the space don't feel the outdoor support should be committed to fast a track this development thank you and hope for a continuance thank you. >> let me call a few more names
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(calling names). >> hi, my name is donna turner my daughter a fifth generation san franciscan i've lived in mission terrace for 35 years my daughter and i used to walk our dogs before the farm was here i'm familiar with the area and love the fact open space in the middle of the neighborhood not against the school but the development of the property meets backyard is towards the end of cayuga that floods the city can't afford to fix the system drains but the area flooded in 2014 and flooded in 19940 so this a frequent observance than a one hundred year storm i'm concerned once the property is developed in the
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flooding starts is to be every year or every other years we'll not get the value of the land back and the city will not be able to afford if the flood is recurrent i'm very much against any i kind of development on this lands i hope it can stay an open area and the farm condition as is thank you. >> thank you. >> i figure people are allowed to have their children. >> i figure if people could a bring their children up here he can bring my 90-year-old mother photos my name is allen i'm 65 one year retires and lived on coter streets for 55 years and shaw
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saw many development and older couples with multi families and two way streets speeding downhill can you give us speed bumps easy parking is turned into a struggle street cleaning and heard nothing on the other side of street sclaen two hours on mondays and wednesday and whatever proposal i don't completely understand how it will deal with the street cleaning not well addressed the - so many of the things not changed the sense of community neighbors being co-sponsor i can't tell and several attempts made on the properties to develop it many have failed because of the emergency response and ability to get to the areas and also the flooding when 2 it rains the place is
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devastated and seeing chunks of feces and knee-deep waste an old 20 or thirty-year-old neighbor you canned console imagine you're up to your waste in water in our basement welcome to coter street that's what the - it's a flood plan and natural storm water asset someone that lived there their whole life consider the sandbags they're there all the time apparently. >> sir. >> sir. >> the sir, your time is up. >> very good thank you.
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>> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is john i'm a board member at the city college and i'm vinyl activist i'm come to speak in favor of this proposal because i have no connection with the school but - schools in san francisco and hopefully elsewhere are diverse not just isn't make up of the ask the body but in the types of schools we have we have small schools and big schools schools that are language immersion and schools that are tech and schools that are science and the reasons are bog because we have so many
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backgrounds of families and students and religions and races and society needs this diversity of schools that will be a loss to not have this school this school is unique the kids spent a lot of time outside of and learn the actives between soil and dirt not the same things and they learn not to be faired of things and the connection with nature is very, very valuable i fear the most two things one this school will be relocated to another place and the second thing we'll be here starbuck this prophet but talking about a luxury housing sediments development how high 2 should be and how close to the fence it should be and how many parking
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spaces the garage will have thank you very much i urge you to go forward with that project. >> hello commissioner my name is bryan i've been a residence of the city since 1980 i'm a supporter of farmland tribes and said they can use their information i hope you'll take into consideration before you pass our vote every minute an acre american farmlands is lost to develop remember that i'm concerned about the city image think of the city being the only one with kicked the last farm out of city developing it and the last issue i'd like to mention it is a sad situation where you have to send your children to school to learn how to feel the soil you should be
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doing that in our backyard it is a perm thing not something that is taught in schools that's right where you learn it with your family time not something that is learned just remember american farmland trust i wouldn't want them to make an issue of that with their city they let the large project farm be developed to the city can make money off of it thank you. >> hi, my name is lauren i'm a kindergarten teacher at golden bridge school and a fourth and fifth generation farming is part of a my family father and gather and so on this is near and dear
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to my heart i'm in awe of what garden city has done and all the teachers that work at golden bridges school what i would like to point out as a are not the of a country mouse that moved to a big city the complaints of noise and traffic and congestion and development they seem to be part of a resident of san francisco and that we have to take responsibility for choosing to live here that's going to be a factor in our daily life i'd like to echo some of the sentiments by supporter of to project so that it's been said the greatest legacy we can leave san francisco with and humanity is the cause-and-effect our children who will be the next
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caitlin goggling way and the next farmers if we don't educate children about urban farming and develop and deep connection and responsibilities for the earth thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> hi, thank you furiously for listening to us for so long this is my fourth year working at a kindergarten teacher and at golden bridges i working closely with this school since the birth and helping the children is at the center and always done and condition to side we're helping the urban children to reconnect with the earth i've seen the effects and ripple out the
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positive effects on san francisco and the architecture at large is great in the potential of those children's futures we're in the need of a home and feel passionate i've lived here my whole life and spent years living in the excelsior identify witnessed 40 years of change in san francisco i love san francisco i call it home and golden bridge philosophy embodies the thing that made san francisco special but on the brink of competently intention please consider thank you thank you. >> hi, i'm alison a parent at golden bridge i live a 5 minute walk to the groelg golden bridges property if you vote for a continuance it is sending a message to the organizations
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those businesses get do so down the road the use is not suitable last month any husband said will you add penalties to the grocery list and he said you don't have to buy those since then everyday he's been here he's brought us seeds in his backpack and slowly phil our jar and contributing and he's learned experimental we're artists live and work we're working hard to make ends meet we got assigned in the marina not feasible for working artists we join golden bridges temporarily and applied for kindergarten we put down 20 schools and didn't get any we're
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sticking with golden bridges and we feel that if people other families are watching them leave they're leaving for better school opportunity if you want us to stay here the artists lets families we need a reason people say it is not family-friendly we wouldn't have a space at golden bridges if not for their approach they're taking what we can pay when i hear save the farm it is inray hart for san francisco open government is it eminent domain will the - it is ridiculous an urban farm is a terrific idea the land didn't belong to them and - >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> thank you, ma'am.
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>> next speaker, please. >> hi wow. are you guys still paying attention this is amazing i'll try to be quick i'm jennifer in support of this school building in the community and this is the only thing keeping us in the community the storage shortage of land is putting pressure on all of us we're in a millennial epic battle overland unfortunately as populations a rising globally you this will not be the last time and part of we'll be witnessing this part of conversation whether the poor or elderly or children we need to provide support and care and unfortunately most people don't want it in their backyard the
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reason we joined. >> this school because of values and the integrity of the faculty and people part of it every parents and faculty member in the community shares this being good citizens and stewards of the architecture wear teaching this and modeling to our action that commitment is the greater community and helping us as neighbors means we'll be uniting in a shared goal of making that has wonderful as we can thank you >> good afternoon. my name is catherine rene second grade teacher at the golden bridge i live a mile away on mission in is a studio apartment with my partner an outdoor educator. across the street from our studio apartment is an unmarked
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dispensary i'm not get into the gonzales that we see outside our window the 14 bus runs 24/7 in front of our apartment and street sclaen on mission 5:00 a.m. everyday and cleaning on florescence twice a week i'm familiar with the noises of san francisco i would love to be home one day the opportunity to feel confront living in this city though i know that is potentially not going to happen i'd like to hear the noise from my apartment window be the noise of the children on a farm the sinking in the morning and the flutes i teach the children how to play the singing games the digging in
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the dirt this afternoon i left the children open the farm they remember admiring a cat pillar and decided to have a bug o elective and see what bugs can swim the farther in the buckets of water necessary filled this is a school that is so touches me deeply because it is a wall did care school given the opportunities for parents to bring their children to this wall education is highly valued and giving them the opportunity - >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> hello, hello i have two
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children at golden bridges i urge you to support the school i was born and raised 1970 and always envisioned raising my own children what he considered the best city in the world my daughter attends an sfusd early education preschool program and started transitional kindergarten at the local elementary school just down the road where i grew up but within a month became very uncharacteristically anxious and started conveying on her clothes and sleeves had a wonderful teacher she was a fabulous teacher we knew the school was not the right place and explored your options including moving to the east bay that is something a native san franciscan wouldn't
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have considered before having children we learned about golden bridges and it's flexible tuition program and lucky to be offered a spot my daughter didn't finish her time in the kindergarten but within two weeks spending her days outside and the kaimg environment the school creates she was her bright self house and senate vegetations to mix soup with they are class i couldn't have imagined the positive impacts the school has on any family a welcoming community that i ever been a part of my two children are thriving golden bridges school and our rent-controlled apartment thank you are the only reasons we've not left the city please support our urban school
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thank you. >> hello my name is timmy live on teresa street one block over from coter where the schools proposed to be built the school and it's hiring guns by that their consultants would have us believe no noise no traffic and on the ohio hydrology the reason we're talking about a continuance to give us the opportunity to evaluate this categorical exemption by the puc for the school to not file permanent an environmental impact that seems reckless and stunning that's the
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reason for the continuances i'm opposed to the zoning our neighborhood is residential single-family homes and the school philosophy i think the location given the impact in this quiet neighborhood of what is essentially a commercial development a huge building extending, however, deep into the lot the existing lot obviously impacting the people living around that that is significant that the people that are in fact, the neighbors i've heard the word neighbor thrown around by people you're not my neighbors in glen park and bruno you're not my neighbors not living in the flood zone with the parallel parking is impacting our ability to get in and out of your driveway you're not a neighbor so to sum up i
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hope you reject this proposal and i hope we can get a continuance to do some work on the science behind this continuance thank you. >> call a few more names (calling names). >> hi, my name is matt i live on cap center lane i lived there my entire life i am the fourth native san franciscan and my nephews and envelope are fifth native san franciscans and nobody brought
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up the fact that many, many years ago before the development of the neighborhoods there was a creek catch-22 you go creek that ran through that is one big concern if we believe it went up all the way down cayuga to towards i believe 280 that's a big concern i am - i have a lot of burning disabilities so i'm totally for and partly for having the school here in san francisco islander this but not this location it is not right and this location with all these flooding issues so i just want to say okay. so
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thank you may is please the commission my name is john jones and worked at at farm committee and two days ago a negative declaration designed to apprise of you environmental factors it can't be a serious attempt to inform you or the public to give it to us two days beforehand i for one not able to get into the wheeze of environmental impact report or the negative declaration but on two days notice i can't look up machine a decimals from the facility or what the probable traffic i don't have access to those books or
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reference sources but i'd like studio is a negative declaration process is a process designed to streamline the property use approvals but is scooted you just don't use took to get out of a tough job what the planning department have i believe you have 200 students thirty employees on a one way streets with flooding problems and that's not going to a negative impact reasonable minds find that remarkable. >> i've read the report obviously i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> about my observations of the so-called negative declaration on which you asked
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to rely very well i request a continuance i think that is mandatory i don't think i have the administrator record to make a decision today thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners my name is rob to charles and here as a educator and resident of the mission and a parents of a golden bridges kindergartener golden school is the reason our family is staying in san francisco as a child that grew up in next to a cemented river a former teacher a private company it is subsidized by the city to provide environmental education in public schools in san
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francisco, a and as a parent owe feel drooep grateful the school exists i'm grateful our sun plays and heaviest and laughs and breathes outdoor multiple days a week this is my dream for him this is also my dream for all children growing up in san francisco that might not have access to native or outdoor otherwise one of the things i value about golden brejz is the candidate goal of unoccupied buildings a school for justice i see that is a tuition system i see this in the work in partnership with the san francisco coalition that is essential for something like schools so consciously have an anti racist school and the commitment to preserving the lands on coter street as a educational farm that will serve
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generations of young children in the city i feel a lot of - a great deal of empathy for caitlin i see two divisions of the site but a shared love of the land and to preserving green spaces in urban area he volunteered to canvas the neighborhood and met neighbors vocal for having a school built in their neighborhood i believe that an urban farm school is the. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> commissioners my name is a jay haynes my wife and i have a home own capistrano our backyard backs up to the proposed project i'd like to go on record of
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saying we'd like you to have a continuance on this as we think you're moving too fast t the scope is much larger than the initial thought and the impact we feel will be negative or may have negative connotations not seriously looked at so, please we're not against the school we're not against learning but we are against irish something that could negatively impacting the neighborhood and we ask that you seriously take into consideration a continuance thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners neighbor in the immediate area i've worked in
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the neighborhood for 12 years not here to speak at a parent of two children i'm not here to speak at all against the school everything they've talked about sounds like a phenomenal sexual and not here to speak on behalf of the a school that is a land use decision on your part when you are dealing with a neighborhood that has experienced the type of- that is hard for people to understand every time it rains these families are worried about feces and waste and sewer flooding into their homes this is a daily anxiety during rainy season the idea this project having worked on hundreds of land use with community members over the 16 years this will be speed through the process without having a real community process i know i
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attended one over the course of year and there was some conversation and it turned out to how great our school is everyone will agree it is an phenomenal school but the time needs to be spent to look at this site and how flooding is impacting this area and how a conversation can be had about it it is there is a solution to move forward i'll ask you for a continuance for further conversation about the right way to proceed. >> next speaker, please. >> and i'm using a no vote on the conditional use application for the golden bridge school college street we know first
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hand the activating and maximizing local land for fresh food and for the residents and bring together communities in our neighborhood today, we can import anything from anymore but know the importance of local grown food is the sustainable future our city is recognized leader of america and forward thinking stewardship and inner sustainability so i urge the commissioners to disapprove the development thank you for your time. >> he observe thank you for your endless patience my name is karen i'm a native resident a small business owner i own mission pie in the mission district and i have a thirty year history of advocating so for healthy farming just to
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disclose i would like you to disapprove or find a continuance for the application for the cu for this site as a school i think doing other than that today will send a message that is okay for property to be quickly transferred and to evict an emerging community serving business very likely to become a legacy in the future with the co-holster we've sought to protect in the city we advocate the work with little city an reference local and state level legislation and seeing this stuart site as critical to the city and regions continued development of a misrepresent site of an urban agriculture over and over lauded as arrest an accomplishment here
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and other cities across the country the business model the little cities business specifically not - it's been for another by quick sales from property sales to be challenging for safety and environmental reasons and i will encourage you to take the time to look at those reasons and give this process a little bit more time thank you. >> okay see if naomi
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(calling names). >> hello, i live in importantly told the neighborhoods adjacent to the city a homeowner and own a restaurant in the mission called california's working closely with little city abstinence since the day we opened to speak of the produce that come out of that within a year of opening this is credible produce and credible farming and caitlin is an incredible farmer i'm here to support this land for agricultural i simple emphasize with the parents i know how tight the street and hear the concerns of the
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neighbors that live next door when i look around san francisco and see the construction this is the last parcel of land this is a bright line for the city we have to decide now is that the best possible use for the space is it so the atlantic ocean last inch of the lands. the city one hundred years we'll look back and see if we are proud to build that or took away a farm so thank you good afternoon, commissioners thank you for the opportunity to provide public comment and thank you for sitting through those hours of public comment. my name is gloria wu i was born here in san francisco and born
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and raised in my family and i live directly across the street into cotter street i have all the same concerns about the proposed development namely the flooding issue and i too stands with any neighbors and urge you to vote no on the conditional use application or at least to continue this item so there more time to review the new documents i understand there are documents that came in last night i feel that is new information we should slow down and review the documents separate from the flooding problems and the unique physical features of the lot that make 203 coter not ideal for 200 kids a need for another school ♪ area you know that many parents spoke about leaving san
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francisco if not for the school i'm a parent of a second dwrard it going to a school will more and more monore our son is in a spanish immersion program and thriving the school is very diverse is originally and economically so it is multi lingual and economically diverse and happy with his school great teachers and learning well and becoming a very strong and confident little boy i'm also the president of the pta at the school and question too talk about social justice and equal assess and equal opportunities >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> >> next speaker, please.
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>> i came to speak about an issue of the future of our city we have 4 hundred thousand years of - as a residence of san francisco and a customer of the farnl not a volunteer justice a resident i used to live in the potrero this farm is special for people outside of the neighborhood i believe that the sf planning department has commented to urban agricultural and as caitlin mentioned sf was the first time to be in a zone the ordinance agricultural provides must not benefits to san franciscans and connects to the broader system and provides space and education and may save money and green infrastructure
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and builds office to assess public health department and economic potential 20 two at the largest - within san francisco are access to land and secure land tenure this is time to focus on agricultural systems venues have such a large impact to make a difference this really is an opportunity to believe we are building in the millennial years this matter it is important to have a school where kids learn agricultural and the public schools can be that avenue and why need to build in expense of this farm if we allow the school and it teaches kids where to farm i want you to think where will we send the students to farm if we don't have an opportunity to live in the city anymore thank you. >> thank you.
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>> hello my name is italian grid my children are fifth and six generations on my husbands side and my side i want to reiterate this is an urban farm school more than 70 percent will be used for farming not stop farming by continue it in the hands of many more children i want to say the urban farming principles under and the love of nature is going to continue in a way that impacts mental health and the growth of our children in a way that san francisco, california use to inform our fib situation community-based of my children were in public school and one to
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sunset elementary their twins their 45 minutes apart after navigating to first grade situation in the same school we faced bullying, social workers being called in to address physical that's and anxiety excuse me - this is very emotional - and 5 and 6 years old the likes of which i've never seen somebody needs to do something and san francisco schools i believe we're a model for the future and that we will show people my children one of my children stopped compulsively washing his hands they wanted to treat him with mexico he's tread with soil and love and nurturing and growing plants no medication a very happy child's we've seen
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our children transform i beg you to consider it very carefully thank you. >> handsome my name is justin and sew first of all, thank you for your patience and attention i am a fourth-generation san franciscan and i am a founding teacher of golden bridges school i've been an early choofld educator for 15 years and proud to say we've made such a change how we go forward with teaching our children and how to be in the world i had a whole statement written in the interest of brevity and not repeating all the things stated i'm sorry this is a policy riverside issue the people that want to save the
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farm share the same values we want to work together and we have - i have absolute father the school is responsible in its research of the impacts we will have on the environment, on the water and traffic and the noise of the neighborhood i also want to say that in terms of the saying we're not neighbors i'm a san franciscan and i feel like as a san franciscan i'm a neighbor to every other san franciscan we work together and this community is representative of that everybody has such can do attitude people are pitched in many families came to help on caitlin's work days and participated in the congeniality sports agricultural events we are can do community oriented group i want to urge you to approve our conditional use permit to continue to do our
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work and educate children in the will have of the land thank you. >> hi my name is maria sorenson my friend has lived there many, many years i've watched it prefarm when we used to have a lot of rain it flooded it's an issue who didn't love children i mean, i'm not a breeder he love children. (laughter) people can trout out all the kids it's not about kids but little space that is completely inappropriate set find buildings will go on the space i'm also reading a statement by
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small business this project before you today with some information come out of city hall at the 11th hour the neighborhood gsa got the documents one day from this hearing we are not told that would be published mid september as a 10 o'clock a.m. not published on line the neighbors got the two june 2016 stormwater management lesson less than a week ago we've been asking for most and the neighbors received the puc and dpw erroneous to the june memo just yesterday those are important technical documents that address real risk to the neighborhood they should be considered in a deliberate manner not shoved down the
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throats and the commissioners throats there's a lot of disingenuous in this project 200 children they'll have a walking bus oh, please people that pay tuition they - are going to drive their kids to school >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> good afternoon. my name is noel my wife and i live on coter street the property that borders the school i like in the interest of brevity it is troubling we've only gotten a number of critical documents recently i'd like to ask for a continuance >> good afternoon my name is kit i building in the mission district and i got two kids that go to golden bridges i have a
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whole statement prepared but a lot of people said the points in the interest rate of brevity the school is important it raise kids holistically not only academic about creativity and self-confidence this is really, really important and something we should be doing more often for kids show a as soon as possible so i strongly support this project thank you. >> (calling names). >> hello my name is joel i've been intrigued by the discussion since about a year ago when the perspective the flooding that's
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important i want to give a different perspective on it 2014 is the last major flood in the area that was a bad one to me the initial that is not been talked about much the fact that the water is not fundamentally coming from 203 coter you saw the manhole cover on san jose and san rose that's where the water is coming from all the discussion about the per ability is fine but not significantly the record will reflect and not going to solve the problem one way or another the addition toilets and flushing you can do it a little calculation and figure that out low toilet phish will not have an impact i know
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there are studies they've been done and far more will will done and to hear the click is this a barrier to the permits on the school the flooding on cayuga in 2004 and 2014 occurred back and forth and the problem was bigger and wouldn't be solved without the community working together since coter and bridges are at the same location he proposition they'll be working together rather than working against each other the water will run downhill guys i'll quote from voltaire the best way to - get off the stage to attend my own garden which i will now do.
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>> my name is susan short live directly next to the farm on coter with my dad that owned the house since 20079 i have pictures of 203 coter flooding i should have started by saying i'm a teacher having a school on the land is not the problem the scope of the work has changed since they presented it every time is rains our two pimples are working tyler every time it rains our backyard is flooded we raised the house 3 feet again are - the flooding will not change and further impacted by adding development to the land back to being a teacher the
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safety of the children is a concern they can't get out of the back the space is enclosed entirely caitlin and little city gardens did a fantastic job alleviating the water from coming out our property and the only way to preserve the land is to actually preserve it thank you. >> hi there i'm a san francisco and sfusd public school teacher at the rooftop alternative school i recognize outdoor education at any school we have a large garden to learn about the stewardship and similar programs are in public schools and those throughout the city a bay area group maintains
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the school garden in 2016-2017 school year at the gardens students help with the lessons and spend the time to prepare the food golden bridges the programs - the current set up of coter with the agricultural use has the educational environment that doesn't happen across the system this is a missed opportunities on geometry or golden bridges if they want a larger area they should have set out a large garden area the space for 200 is the students is significant i only see a few garden and fruit trees and 6 classrooms making 7 classrooms that concerns me the school any
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need more says that the space for a farm school which seem possible in the development 70 percent of the land if have a building but not farmed once that is built with the green not farm present he hear the food preparation those don't differentiate this education outside from the other possible i'm a supporter of health and education i don't oppose this i do think that golden bridges purchased the site federal and state it was not zoned and urge the commission to i'm sorry to not approve that use and the resulting. >> thank you, sir, your time is up. >> hello my name is alice my husband spoke we live on coter
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street next to the farm probably one of the newest residents of mission terrace we've lived in san francisco for seven years we came in here with an open mind not pro or 0i9 development it was reels after being what the plan was and that we think it is not proper for the school to be developed there not properly considered the flooding aspects and noise aspects and the emergency aspects not adequate so we're asking for a continuance again and this school sounds amazing but this development needs to be halted and we are asking for a continuance thank you. >> next speaker, please.
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>> come on up and last few cards (calling names). >> hello my name is melissa coats a graduate student in chinese medicine and acupuncture the city garners is a place i've come to volunteer and exchange for fresh local vegetation that is truly a blessing with limited finances to have access to healthy food a have a connection to the land that is a place where my classmates and i come to harvest herbs we make natural medication for the health of individuals in the community while little city is a
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commercial farm it is a space that serves the city and local communities in myriad ways that can't be understated little city gardens has made it an amazing healing space where the public and neighbors and children are all welcome to come and learn locally so - let's see to participate in communities to be nourished to enjoy the nature i urge you to keep it as a peaceful quiet assessable green space as a real farm please oppose the conditional use authorization once you pave over the healthy soil of coter street the damage will be irreversible the school sounds like it is great and hope it happens elsewhere thank you.
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>> good afternoon or maybe good evening as a board member owe have physique responsibility and oversight i can tell you about the school we have a flexible and low tuition model that allows low income and middle-income families to come to the is school we have a budget deficit and raise monies in tens of hundreds of dollars we are constantly raising money and cvs this process that has gone on for over two years trying to get on the land has been a great financial burden we've been paying mortgage and renting a place representing a place in san francisco is not cheap we've heard a lot of where everyone is requesting a
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continuance and been told today that we're irish through the process well, that process is over two years from our point of view the main report has been out for over a month and the neighbors had the chance to look at it not only that but their attorneys to rebut it not new the only report that came out is something that is in response to the neighbors last minute report on a - flooding in the area to when we went back to the puc that's the only thing that came out in the last twenty-four hours it is a small report to be digested so you know so in that sense really no reason to say that there is lack of information that we've been hiding the planning department is not hiding what will a
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continuance achieve every neighbor didn't want anything but a farm everybody loves the school but were not in my backyard they've basically said asking for a continuance it a political streaming and not in good faith i strongly urge you to give this proposal the green light. >> hi there i'm scott my wife and i are lived in area intense childhood and in the southern neighborhood i can't imagine a school better my daughter comes home with dirt and not touched on iphone so many friends have left the school and hope to stay in san francisco to erases our daughter in the place we love i've helped to communicate with
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the neighbors those adjust to the projects are in the minority a quiet majority that approve of this school the current group that oppose they oppose the little city garden and that forced caitlin to have a temporary authorization for the site i personally reached out to caitlin over 6 months on behalf of the street with concrete proposals for a city owned property that is identified tentative for her farm but refused to discuss this where everyone can win the school listened to the neighborhood and redesigned it at at 6 figure cost it is provided all the information on sewers and traffic and the requester for a continuation are asking a political employ they've had two
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years to dialogue to review and respond to the project this project as a board approval are of over one thousand resident that wrote individual letters of support not petitions commissioners, i urge you to immediately approve that today so your kids are a one of a kind 50 families will literally leave this city if not. >> my name is nick a formal inspirational commissioner, i serve on the bart board but a father of two twins seven months old as crazy we had to start thinking about school one of them is crawling one is doing better than that the other one i think being able to - there's no perfect place to put a school
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in the city unfortunately, a pretty crowded place as you may know though the families that wanting to stay in the city needs educational opportunities as possible this school is unique and special not just unique in san francisco but unique across the bay area in terms of how deeply connected it allows the students to be to to the soil to our natural environment we need this is exactly the type of school i'll be excited hopefully to be able to send my twins to this space not enough space in schools in san francisco that's why i'm urging you to support the project because even though not the perfect place to build a school we badly need is this seems like a good spot thank
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you. >> good evening commissioners first of all, thank you for your service to our city a 16 year san franciscan and renter and many have's said it is hard to walk the tightrope i'm a nonprofit professional fighting for inner agricultural this is a difficult topic for me as the mother of a child that goes to golden bridges and goes there because of my commitment to a sustainable food system and inner agricultural we need farms he completely agree for those people in the room wearing those words on their shirts that believe them i understand how hard this is the first time i took my daughter in public that
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days old english agricultural is a beg part of my life i want to stay in san francisco we need more than one farm we need farms in every neighborhood i want to fight formal that but if my daughter can't be at the touch school a nature based school we'll not be able to stay here we want to be clear many people wearing the words on their shirts they don't want this property developed in no way, shape or form we'll fight to mitigate the sewer problems those will be hour problems and want to work the people that point more urban farms to grow
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financing urban farms in san francisco so, please approve you have the opportunity today to approve this project and keep families like mine here. >> thank you your time is up. >> good evening my name is katherine a bernal heights resident for the majority of my adult life and have a kindergartener at the golden bridges and here to voice my support for the proposal i'll skeptical the part of my speech how i love golden bridges i have a unique perspective i've been on the committee and like to speak to a few issues about - traffic we're committed to a walking school bus during the rain it days of the year our students estimate out in the
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rain we are committed to car share i've been a car share additionally overseeing who can are committed to all fashion of bikes to tagalongs to cycles a tan dumps i've seen them all design since i've been a member of the team intense the beginning from a first hand perspective after we presented our agricultural drawings we swiveling racked to the neighborhood feedback we switched firms with our new architect we've heard you'll skip that flooding i'll let the experts speak to the flooding one of the reasons i feel passionate is not just the children and staff but the participants i've seen over the
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four years our partners are capable of almost anything we have the manpower to fix the mission terrace flooding and sponsored did farms with free rents throughout the proposal process and offered to help them relocation, however, golden bridges cannot fruitful. >> thank you, ma'am, your time is up. >> so pleased to be the last person here we've worked looked at for two years and submitted many documents and held meeting and we believe we have done this in good faith we urge you to decide on our project today and not continue this thank you very much.
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>> okay is there any additional public comment? >> and final public comment. not seeing any, public comment is closed. and commissioner hillis. >> first thank you all for the testimony we hear a lot of controversial projects not many are this civil we get so moved so much testimony this is controversial and people are passionate on all sides i was able to go out to the site yesterday morning and tour with the folks that run the garden it is good to get that perspective and see this section we hear we actually had a couple controversial school haeshgz it is difficult we know there is a need for schools in the cities have a hard time findings space they can't pay what residential
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or commercial developers what pay they often want to be in neighborhoods and obviously a bigger impact to the immediate surrounding block than two blocks away we often hear traffic and noise hopefully good noise but we hear those issuance about schools and drop-offs but it is a challenge and they've got it obviously we need schools he bring my 3 kids to another neighborhood i wish it was in my neighborhood and it is chaotic in the morning as people drop off their kids there's walkers and drivers it clears out quickly but going to be impactful if there is a school not the same our goal to try to minimize that if this is approved the farm use is an interesting wrinkle we don't determine we
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rezone property not who farms the tenant nothing we can do to necessarily keep that tenant other than the space even if we were just a school it would be gone tomorrow or whenever the lease is up we can't zoned exclusively for an urban farm just not what we can do in our capacity and it is interesting when i was i worked for the city for 5 years and did the agreement on parcel with hayes valley farm my kids toured with that they hate me no farm on that site i have to convince them a mixed use housing 8 years ago they toured the farm i get kids with a good use not one we can control zoning district there is a lot of good aspects of this project it seems like a good fit in the neighborhood and
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this school is a good fit for this property i think the design is great and where i didn't see the original design but like the design what we see this seems like a unique school with a unique vision that fits into in sight some of the challenging things beef heard i've seen is a constrained site an odd bow tie shaped site mid block with not a ton of frontage but a big site the design renewables reflects that a fairly narrow streets and schools are in north beach on streets they complete with parking and residential uses but a narrow with an way street the flooding issues been through this neighborhood and seen sandbags not often with flooding but the sandbags i'll generally
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supportive of a school use on this site but have questions about the densest of the proposal i think we generally hear a lot more on the design, the height you know how the building looks and feels on the site that felt this hearing school or no school farm or no farm and good to dig into some of the detailed issues if i can ask the representative from the school a couple of questions i'm not sure who - >> all right. if not you can deflect them to samoan we heard a couple of times the proposal changed over time has the the program changed over time you know, i this we are heard it was overflow room a smaller school and grown can you talk about your program how many students. >> at the time, we first came
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to a terrace and association meeting after the purchase of land in the coming student year 50 students there will be 50 students and a way to create a structure for the 50 students we never said that was all we were going to be we've tasered and spoken as a as k through 8 this was heard a miscommunication a misunderstanding i felt this on or about was resolved over time the first, the design that was presented to the neighborhood was a k through 8 a bit of a larger building it fronted coter street directly with a garage was the frontage with a entrance into the school on one side of that there were two large building one of them with green roof and the second a second
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story building frond on coter street and one smaller sort of classroom in the back so the concerns we heard was where the children are dropped off we created the drop off circle not enough land preserved we made more land and broken down into smaller bias pieces and covered 2 with green. >> you have 7 classrooms or k through 8. >> yes. >> 9 classes. >> how is that - is that i mean, you're program is like twenty-four hour. >> wasn't a mistake. >> so currently two of the classes with offsite for example, one classroom on the farm and one classmate inside of a classroom and one in glen canyon we continue - we made the building small on purpose to
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hold us to make sure the children are outside once their ordinary and middle school we hope they're in publicly working in public service a big part of our school and want to make that a reality the excelsior district a great place with the jewish home to plug in students and they don't need to be climbing trees as much we hope to put them in service we purposing made the school two small to make sure we stay out. >> how many grades now. >> preschool through second grade and the preschool is in the mission. >> okay in timing wise when are you - what's your purchased timing. >> the foot is ready to be put on the metal we've between waiting to get a permit your
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architects are ready and donors ready to put into o money into the bank a bank that said if we can raise 40 percent they'll get to us one hundred we're ready to go. >> in other words have you had discussions with neighbors because when i was on the site as well as today a couple of folks from the just a few minutes homes talked about just the size of this school here in the site and you know it is unusual site and unusual development for - but what was you're thinking behind how this project is placed to you know accommodate our program and how - less of an impact to the adjacent neighbors as possible. >> there are two things one is making it actually too small our enrollment at the maximum will
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be 200 students like i said two classes not onsite that is two classes not onsite on any given day we've broken down the structure to match the housing so they'll be small classrooms with courtyards twvn last week shaped and separated like houses that was very intellectual and left the open space - wouldn't this be a great place for farmer's market we can rent out the multi purpose room on weekends afternoons skwoovpz and we heard we don't want more people walking 24r509 neighborhood we've been trying to build a greater community for the excelsior we're more happy
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to keep our doors close but happy to open up the doors and allow this to be an asset for the city and on the owner of flooding you knew of that issue it is going to impact you, i mean we're getting various message from the puc and probation officer memos but didn't sound that issue is necessarily going away your ex baiting it or not a question what you feel. >> we're at at advantage we can build a building higher and we can might issues on the property we'll be putting in pools that will pick up pull up water and want to put in holding tanks the children can see that
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means that area you play in you can't it is a big puddle or great. >> many ways it is it becomes an educational asset an viral asset believe that our families those are really they're almost all here so when the school says this is something that is important they show up i believe they'll show up for the water issue. >> thank you. >> you come up more questions for staff on the is anyone from puc here? >> good evening department staff none from puc is here but in communication with puc throughout the process including earlier this morning. >> we received that memo or letter from them yesterday and correct. >> but i'm not necessary an period of time maybe you can
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help us summarize. >> yes. yes. yes. >> i'm not an expert on the topic, however, i did talk with puc about what the conclusion were and have a hocking hydrology person here essentially what you received from the puc was that modeling scenarios and a half conducted one is for existing conditions the current site one is a somewhere in what you have three hundred people occupying the site wastewater if three hundred people and the third scenario a condition in which the entire site isism that he was there is flooding on a site under the existing conditions under the 25 year and one hundred year storm the project - the three hundred
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or 100 percent under the 25 year storm and the one hundred year storm in difference between the model scenario under the three year storm there is no discernable difference between three hundred people of - there is a difference what goes into the stormwater if you consider it 100 percent impervious that's not the conditions proposed and do not occur with the project. >> there were issues brought up of past projects you know them not going forward because egress concerns do you know anything about those issues. >> i have russel here to speak
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the project we do not i don't know if we even - those projects preceded i think that nancy can speak to the status of those how far prolong they got. >> i spoke to fire no concerns. >> that's right are you with. >> i'm with the project sponsor. >> okay just last week he contacted a gentleman proposed for 9 units apparently development and inquired what were the reasons you abandoned the project he said he wanted to do a 75 percent coverage on the lot and a push back from the planning
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department in an initial meeting that was the original position not for life safety as. >> 9 single families as part after a multi family unit. >> commissioner koppel. >> yeah. thanks for everyone that came out anymore interesting than normal not just a garden but farm we'll be looking at instead of a empty parking lot and not just a school but an interactive quote farm school fulsome i had another question for the project sponsor based on the programming issue schools are obviously going to be different than office or residential you're not going to be staying overnight you may possibly be shutting down for the summary what are the timeline schedules for just
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year rent-controlled housing the summer off and then you know lossized look at the site and drove by the front of it and the back of it and also not aware how much of a commercial influence this farm has to have you explored opportunities if it is night time or closed where the school is not utilized did some of that continues to go on and the opposition mitigated. >> the school will operate almost like a typical school pond through friday from 74 and class starts at the 8:30 and different program within an after-school program a lot of the timing are wlisz in terms of how many parents evenings
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hopefully one or two community events the whole school comes to a fearful celebration as like last weekend we put from the conditional use a summer program of six to eight weeks a summary program it is optional not desired so o to have test in the summer we're open to not having it but put it in that to offer it in terms of sharing the space in a way that comes back to commissioner hilliss original question about we had a grand vision so for what the school will be when we purchased the land there could be little city gardens or ultimately in our conversations with myself and caitlin and the other founders of caitlin in order to have a farm you need x amount of space and not enough for both of us we
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had conversations with you be interested in running a school farm she has a passion for imperial agricultural not the passion she wanted to pursue that's where the conversation ended we both started with being excited about an be outdoor school and farm and as large as the lands seems not big enough okay schematics. >> i guess process question the certificate of determination for the environmental review is that typical. >> jessica can answer but not not typically not when necessary
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come out the hearing is not required not a typical and not a typical for this size of a project for a categorical exemption. >> i was yesterday at the site and met with the folks from the school and the neighborhoods i listed out several different issues here one of them the competing hocking hydrology report i think you answered it i'm not sure i understand it but read it before i went to bed wow. a difference of opinion often this impact of the project but the simulation if you can summarize the simulation run by the puc indicates that the project sponsor ohio hydrology report is more accurate than the other report. >> i don't want to confuse two things the stormwater management
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approach memorandum that was prepared by the ohio hydrology person and the puc that is separate from the modeling that puc did so you received that meanwhile i explained so two separate things and in regards to the stormwater management approach puc reviewed that with dpw we received in a i guess a subsequent analysis from ohio hydrology person greg and we 10 took that analysis and sent it out to puc, public works as well as the project sponsor hocking hydrology person to review and make sure no new concerns that were raised by greg and his analysis and that there was no issues that couldn't be resolved 0 through the review design
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analysis. >> we're okay. >> yes. >> (laughter) great i appreciate that. >> the other issue i listed was outreach so he know you ran a two years of progress stands that if i may we talked about the terrace neighborhood can you talk about the outreach to both front and back of the project excelsior and mission terrace. >> mission terrace is in a way i imagine mission materials is part of a excelsior district 11 and so the outreach i was you - to reach the commercial corridor i don't know if it is mix terrace or the excelsior and
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reaching to mclaren park because not only with those are neighbors impacted but neighbors we want to come to our school a lot of the outreach on the wooden is this appropriate in terms of its scope and interests but families that want to join us how can we integrate ourselves i attend a lot of the meetings honestly it was negative and there wasn't a lot of talking but a lot of no a lot of save the farm signs went up we stopped knocking on the safe the farm signs when our campusers talked about reaching out one thing that is noticeable the houses that don't have safe the farm sign they definitely
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got a letter a sign handed to them and didn't put them up i found those houses imbelligerent and open to the idea of having a school i hear from commissioner koppels question he had the same question the idea of a continuance and working together were really dealing with mutually inclusive projects a farm and there's nothing that is possible with the two of them give me the commercial farm. >> at this point with the farm no, i think the school is certainly open to making adjustment that 9 neighbors might be bringing up but based on the concerns we've been presented we feel we've addressed unless other changes that they feel need to be made we heard a lot about stormwater
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and traffic and noise done extensive studies unless something we don't know about. >> thank you very much one thing that sxhefz picked up on this was for this type of a contention on or about you folks are the most well-behaved group of people in the city honestly people were talking about over each other last night and meeting like this it was hard to keep order you guys should pat yourselves on the back and hopefully get along i'm focused on the core issue for both sides is open space and farm as you look at the two ways to go the commercial farm which sadly the farm didn't control the farm as commissioner hillis said someone can put a padlock on it no more farm because the lease said you question and answer get out with a thirty day notice we deal with
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that in other mission people want something that is is a idealic thing this is about controlling the lands we have at commercial farm that is 100 percent land 100 percent community assess day and night and have it in increase and no impacts do nothing model not to say in the future some of the commissioners said someone can buy the land into the school and talk about the parishes you have to one thing and 100 percent and on the other hand, you have skaeblg use for the land you have two hundred students with events and 70 percent of the land as open
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space and a farming consultant not open to the community but deal with the school and benefits to that we've heard a lot of the benefits on both sides so sewer and sewer which is s k w e r and heard it is mitigated and the traffic and the other impacts and the lens we're tlook although on a cu an institutional use in an rh1 neighborhood is necessary and desirable and compatible so as i look at what i heard about the school its mission people spoke passionately sometimes in tears their moved about what the school is i think the school is a desirable accuse u use for the land it meets my necessary and desirable compatible this is really if you look at the mitigation factors that were outlined in the case report this school has done a
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job trying to mitigate traffic and noise you know people pedestrians etc. the only concern i have the ability to actually assign a time for a parent to pick up a child timeframe one of the mitigating things i read anyways so compatible i think there has been an expensive amount of work to make that school compatible including the design the circular driveway and the programming around people having cars move so i think that is compatible and i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say commissioner johnson >> thank you very much i'm going to start with a quick question and gone from there so of the memo that has the 3 scenarios it actually said that
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final stormwater plan has to came into from the puc so i think that the plan has to be approved by the puc commission before they a building permit can be issued any order of operations before that so - come on up. >> do they have to have land entitlements. >> no, in fact, that's the reason why we actually had a stormwater conceptual a typical the stormwater management approachs have done during the permit review so to answer your question during the permit review but nothing holding them back equipment the puc looking at it although the permit process it does make sense.
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>> is one decision dependent another in a perfect world any process is the stormwater management plan does 24 need to come after the land entitlement. >> typically how it works we'll get the entitlements the conditional use what about authorized by the process usually that's consequential process the puc review they will approve what is called audience preliminary stormwater control plan for the site permit or the building permit at the end of the process they're the last routing station once that permit is initiated with the control plan before the final certificate of completion so a two-part of the first is posting entitlement at the end of the building permit. >> okay. great and as part of the their
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approval of the plan is there any part of decision that says if you put a emperor marble - i'm trying to you understand the project sponsors made the stormwater at issue in our decision i'm trying to decision if that makes sense seems to me under a different path whether or not the stormwater plan for this proposed project makes sense and if it makes sense i want to try to separate speak out from the decision on the cu that is kind of what i'm getting at and the puc reviews the final
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design plan they look at that for the stormwater control plan they have 9 final plan and not issuing a preliminary stormwater controlled plan if it can't pass the standards their subject to reviewing. >> right. >> that approval must happen before the ordinance of the building permit no construction will start unless the puc is the feasible and so their standard is it something the impact of the project is significantly more than the status quo would that potentially be a reason to their plan mitigation plan to not needed the standard if a project makes it worse with stormwater with a one year storm could the puc make the decision that plan doesn't work for the project if the impact is really large. >> i can't speak 100 percent
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to their nuance processes but i would presume like all the different divisions that review the building permits their standards that must be met for the permit to be orientated i do not know if jessica can share. >> there's a performance standard for the twenty-four hour hour design storm and many ways to meet that standard we had the project sponsor hocking hydrology person looking at in addition to the conceptual management approach and other basement and additional piping so there are design ways to meet the stormwater management requirement. >> thank you that answers my questions i appreciate it so - for me think i have a coup of other condemns and i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say but thank you for all for
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being here and green house our comments sometimes, it seems it is up and down it is hard to look at everybody in the eye for 3 and a half hours we were livens and office space so many times you have three or four hundred people come out and 99 percent are giving the talking points and 10 percent help with the decision bus that's the opposite case everyone gave thoughtful comments both for the people that are here and had to go thank you for that response i was hoping that was the answer he i'm not a geotechnical engineer took it freshmen year of college didn't do well and i want to make sure there's a separate process for that which
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could result in approval or denial or change of some of the strategies here so i want to clean that we're not geotech engineers and not argue but talk about the land use and commissioner vice president richards brought up great points i'll not repeat 24 necessary and desirable or compatible one they know it is unfortunate we're can't like duplicate this land and put it somewhere else because we have 24/7 competing policy priorities when how talk about urban agriculture in the city there has been a movement to keep and to sponsor urban agriculture and not just farms but rooftop gardens and other spaces and there's been a movement we need more community facilities it such as schools
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and in terms of of the farms and things like that so it is like we have two competing priorities that everyone agrees with are a good idea and good for the city and county trying to 55 for one space that is challenging me i think that some of the decision which one will be in the long term interests of 71 and second which one has the less negative impacts in terms of interest there's a will there's a way i'll disagree with commissioner bobby wilson not possible to center a unzoning that would be something impermanent not the situation we're in but the farm can go away tomorrow so fellow commissioner i'll not rain on her parade how was the land
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marketed it is mashtd as condos you know there is something that in the fears if we to have the use the next hearing about the site will be about condo and nothing we can do about that what we can or can't tell people what to do in the long term use i'm concerned in terms of impacts of the project obviously the agricultural currently there a working farm that's great and the stormwater i don't think that that needs to be part of our decision when it comes to transit and traffic i'm relatively satisfied the impact is moderate for the project type of we're talking about and not keeping in the impacts the other
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communities when not a single-family home going into a single-family district more than 9 single-family home going to the property and the potential impacts have been mitigated well with the second design i'm so glad we saw the first one it is a larger building taking up more of the lot i'm pretty - i kind of like the implementations of having the school but definitely open to hearing other commissions on that. >> commissioner melgar. >> thank you. i want to thank everyone for coming out and sitting through our deliberations so want to start by seeing saying the design of this project is obviously e outstanding i'm in the business of education it is difficult to find space in san francisco to
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do that i also have a lot of empathy for folks that want to preserve the farm and open space i'm afraid that is there the economics of that particular use of that particular site so i was the one looking at how that property was marketed you know we see this throughout the city there is a very acute shortage of housing like every thing else and you know, i am afraid that the next project if this project didn't grow will be condos on that site so you know, i think that know as we continue the urban ashen subject but think about the urban agricultural and we as the city are committed we have to punish
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for that as well because there's a business plan that comes with that use that is tied to the land you know that if we want it we need to make that happen in terms of the economics so i like the project and i think that is a very good use of that parcel. >> commissioner moore. >> i wanted not to be in the fourth hour of public comment echo the appreciation of hearing people in a balanced and moderate way including the children were under quiet and being in the group that was remarkable because we have many instances this was exactly the opposite and thank you for that i'd like to share from the get go that there are slarlts in what many of you are saying respect to the gentrification
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and impact of traffic noise etc. i have been sitting on this commission for a number of years and briefly tell you rejuvenation of use with the impression of viral issues came about on the corner of jones california expanded in a very, very major way then there was drew with a major expansion that had many, many months of opposition an urban and urban forest high and many of the discussions went to the issue of increase in traffic i want to stick with that for one second given that obviously today's students are picked up by the parents and children dropped off walking or car or carpool i can tell you in all cases living next to one of the major examinations grace chath
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the parents take responsibility for the commitment for the schools to be non-drufb so in those incidence i've spent hours observing the examples have been axiliary i do believe there can be a managed approach to pick up and delivery of students together with a model this school relies on walking distances and being in a kind of system that puts a great emphasis on walking and models of transportation management i believe this is a great approach a and feel comfortable that
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commission has supported examples i'll caulk something i feel comfortable not impacting the design approach to an agricultural teaching mission is exemplar i couldn't see a better building when more deals with an expression of light only the land not just in the percentages of open space by whether those the composition of buildings often buildings create when you look at them from a distance they became a wall here the ability of views and air flee in between those buildings only 4 buildings depend on where you stand and looking the surrounding streets the composition is, exceptional by the courtyards i can see this is
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as a lovely model for an urban school myself coming out of that school type of close to the steiner wolf do have education makes me appreciate how this building realize this idea i'm very much in support and time to engage with director rahaim for one minute i'm under one of the few commissioners with supervisor chiu on what is now the urban agricultural legislation we had along discussions and took months and months and months to go through the pros and cons together the temporary nature by doesn't we'll support the sites in in between it wasn't clear that shape ultimately the development would take on that could you help
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>> commissioners, thank you the ordinance as you recall allowed i think referred to allowed the urban agricultural in any zions in the city without a hearing it allowed it as of right. i think what defined and agricultural as opposed to to someone growing their own vegetation in their backyard growing items to be sold threat the against e distinctions in between what we can grow under our backyard that is what is happening in 2, 3, 4 piece of land the nature of the use is really only dependent the terms of lease and how long they can be there in this case it is a privately owned piece of land the owner from the owner choose to keep it farm there forever it is different than the situation in hayes valley there was a
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clear plan that was temporary everyone knew that was proposed for a site for development nov that the agricultural is temporary it simply allows to exit in any zoning as an agricultural use but, but by right not trump the right of property owner leaving an underutilized parcel for a long time period of time we had several negative impact c-3 and one next to the puc building on mcallister and larkin so there's a commitment to utilizing space providing but not necessarily implied assumption i see the need that agricultural trumps any. >> certainly yes. yes. that's true one of many, many
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uses that are allowed on the site this is an rh1 district one can build homes because of size of site one can build 7 or 9 units excuse me - 20 if you have a planning unit you can build 20. >> that will cause a series of other problems and unfortunately, this site is not shaped or size large enough in this particular case with 70 percent of land still open from the lands would be sufficient would be an ideal location because they compliment each other so i couldn't be more in support of what is being property here i'm very interested in the sliding tuition model i'm interested in the inclusive
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model as this as a resource don't want to ask about scholarships but the sliding model in its labeled by most of the speakers is affordable we need this in almost every neighborhood in order to fulfill what people are telling us we need to create affordable housing and schools and as said we need to create a variety of schools which address the needs of different families president to bring up their children under different school and training models that's what is front of the us i'm prepared to move to approve. >> second. >> okay. i want to add some thought this is kind of a difficult one a great sounding school a great community and strong engaged obviously a neighborhood that is
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enjoyed the gardens there i think for us up here we're making misrepresent generational land use we've seen many schools as commissioner moore pointed out the class of 200020 has come in and gang boosters and changing the schools families will have new ideas and the city has new ideas and the ability to build a high school but someday you guys won't be there but will be suggested at some point that is part of decision process in san francisco i like the uses i wish there was a main campus in across the street for the neighborhood this happened tobacco the great farm satellite campus that's difficult to find.
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>> yeah. he guess you you know it is unusual and that those two groups are civil ceiling have so far apart i wish we had discussions to get closer together i'll wait for other comments. >> commissioner vice president richards. >> two quick things first one project sponsor what i was referring to the development of a sign pickup periods for each students i thought that meant a certain time this child is 355 or 4 o'clock explain what that means. >> that's a that's a good question. >> on page 15 of the draft motion. >> our traffic consultant is here that might better clarify no. we'll not have a specific drop off. >> that's exacting couldn't be thought will you explain that so
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everyone understand autopsy charles consulting traffic consultant what you're referring to say not by students by grade so you wouldn't have. >> depend on grade. >> okay. >> so kindergarten first grade wonderful i guess not for you sorry thank you. >> ms. hoff. >> so i guess a quick question ask you're directly across the street and seems to be engaged given the fact the project will move forward anything about this current project you see you would give feedback what you wanted changed. >> our biggest concern is scale of the project and really the urban known
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impacts for stormwater that is really the biscuit question for us and so it is hard for me to say other than scale and potential harm fell effects that will effect my home water going straight both my garage those are the biggest concerns. >> what is interesting he read came in and reporting was something you were involved with and reads the puc and the eir that i got and he asked those questions that any negative impact of this project if it is misunderstood beforehand i assume the experts can figure out and put through the mod not get a certificate sift but making the situation blow the acceptable standard for the run off that's my basis on the
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stormwater inform permit will be issued and at least the standard i'm assuming not going to get worse that's the whole point. >> you mean as far as the stormwater. >> not accelerate an increased amount of stormwater and right the stormwater will be the stormwater regardless of what happens. >> your other thing was the scale. >> correct again 9 amount of volume of 200 students 31 staff. >> we've heard with the model of three hundred students let the experts figure that out. >> i no idea how we respond to that. >> no permit i'm assuming no permit will be issued if it, it
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is not permissible. >> question on the land use the under consideration is adequate given the additional work done and could be defended and then the thresholds we talked about necessary and desirable and compatible a mitigation plan for any other non-stormwater impacts and actually, the fact it is 70 percent open and not 20 houses sitting there is better for wildlife and make sure that light and air and timed to make sure before we voted. >> it is about the scale of the project and the concerns around flooding you've heard obviously the concerns around traffic and egress. >> we've taken this seriously i hope you release that. >> commissioner moore. >> i actually want to
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acknowledge staff for doing an steroid job with the puc calculations we were normally we don't do that relative on the city progresses insuring that all projects that come to the land use ♪ commission go the standard way of all health and public safety issues address by dbi, fire, puc and on and on and on in this particular case you went out of your way to do this over where this project stand together with shiver that every step beyond follows those processes by which not cumulative worsening situation foresight e together with the possibility of addressing a problem in the addressed given what we're told
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he assume as the project move forward will not woolen by cumulatively address and make the overall situation better >> director rahaim. >> from my on part hearing the testimony i find is fascist two groups of people that strooirld similar missions look at the same piece of land it is a great testimony time those are the values that's unusual item there are many, many schools in the city and they usually co-exists in residential neighborhoods i certainly think from a normal school operation standpoint there is certainly ways to allow fourth the co-existence the two unique issues on that site the stormwater and the existence of existing farm that obviously
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creates a different dynamic with a similar proposal were to happen whatever the commission choose to do continue it or not i'll be i think this is an important enough situation that i will be happy to convene folks to have a discussion around how to make that work from the commission so choose in any scenario it is - you know, i think this is kind of situation we're going to see happen more and more in the city as the city grows and green space used for other purposes especially privately owned green space and over offer that and i personally am interested in this topic how to have those kind of uses co-exist i'll do it and we
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can certainly report back to you in future scenarios. >> commissioner moore. >> at that motion a motion for approval the one thing i want to say any example which from given everything eave tacked this project is doing it correctly it starts request the mission and talks about the policy rather than with just trying to get a building on the land and doing the lease to achieve that i'd like to use this example as a forward leading way of how to do it hopefully next time the site will be large enough to have all represent. >> commissioner hillis. >> given what we've heard it is hard not to be supportive of this in the design but i think to director rahaim's comments we
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didn't hear what we hear about the issues directly impacting that block and the neighbors so i'd like to add to the motion that staff continue to work on those finer grain issues that we tend to hear more about this was more farm or housing but i think there is some traffic issues and you know open - the rear yard issues that i think you know that will be good to convene those neighbors impacted with the department to continue to work on that. >> commissioner johnson. >> yeah. i think commissioner hillis i want to make sure there's an opportunity our findings or otherwise to have director rahaim or other staff work with the prestige team the
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traffic we said rear yard space i know this is a school gets tricky what are the summers and on weekends what is the opportunity so have outlet 70 percent space events in the farm that is important schools can be challenging with the school assess and all of that but want to make sure that is possible i mean request for a continuance. >> possible for us. >> continue to work with the project sponsors. >> absolutely, yes. >> commissioners there is a motion that has been seconded to approve with conditions and amenable to the maker and seconder directing the staff to continue to work. >> commissioner hillis.
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>> commissioner johnson commissioner koppel commissioner melgar commissioner moore commissioner vice president richards and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 7 to zero and. >> (clapping.) >> commissioners that leaves us to general public comment i have no speaker cards. >> >> okay. any general public comment this evening not seeing any, thekd on november 8th thank you is my fellow san franciscans i'm mike young i want you to join me, i'm running for the district
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